| IVOD_ID |
164235 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164235 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-22-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T11:43:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:53:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6022c9f6d63255a32bb84008a1f202506c95259d4de0cc175dd201981b308a87dff46f77a105961a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:43:19 - 11:53:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請教育部部長鄭英耀列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【10月15日及16日兩天一次會】） |
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借委員進行質詢請政部長 |
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委員長好委員長你好請問你2月9日多久了?2月9日4月2月9日多久了?2月9日1年5個月1年5個月你以前在國社加的時候是在哪一年?我在民國65年65年你對這個斑斑有鮮奶這個政策你感覺如何? |
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換句話說 讓孩子有一個乳齡可以補充他對身體的發電是有幫助的你覺得這個政策最好是怎麼停 |
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這也是我在認為 跟委員報告 我覺得很可笑的因為在這個政策中 都要保押的推動和保護希望可笑 你有要支持嗎我當然 我是支持的有幾個先生繼續在做現在目前已經有十幾個這個停下來的時候 有很多老師都拍手叫好我來請教就是說 |
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今天很多人在探討說老師三張兩張就去幫他倒數甚至從五年來到學校的時候是要老師去幫五年來給孩子吃老師為什麼這個政策聽起來他的拍手比較好心聲很無奈一分錢一分錢 |
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我跟政府簽約的時候 我的退休金是多少 結果我們的政府呢 退休金抬到226他說現在沒有人來照吃照吃我小孩 我如果要用心教你 我想你60幾年來做教育的時候 絕對不是這個環境我在讀書的時候 我老師說 趙志修你等我多久就好了 土砂我替你掃 |
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老師退學前去掃地 為什麼他覺得有解答 我知不知這孩子有解答我退休 我有保障啊結果這個退休政策 你把人家的退休金貸還不得不起你還叫他就要照顧孩子 照顧家庭 安裝很多雜貨 算了這老師起來 今天如果照顧一個比較雜貨的 雜貨裡面一個不爽快的就幫你倒數倒數啊 你就再搬啊 |
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這已經是造成惡性的循環了 保證我相信你對高雄到台北你感受應該比其他人更深了但你今天一做這個保證這位要講一件事情要比較有價值的說真的替這些人講話冬季時光太替尤金的時候我們的總額算是一條七千多億因為那時候想說我們經濟會賣掉所以這位老師您比較委屈的 |
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結果經過高檔後,我們的中武省經濟發展現在變三條了你應該在這個議題要多關心一下,本席今天跟你講的要表你發表意見,談這件事情都可能會打翻,也沒意思AI這個東西,台灣已經陷入一個壯強期,我說的確 |
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一個基本法出不來全世界AI的產業我們台灣是冥的真貓 |
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你知道嗎?我們的産業的出口也好,産業的製作也好結果很多人說AI去衝到什麼人的生意,衝到什麼人的頭腦,衝到什麼人的工作這就是你教育的問題包括你中心教育也好,包括這個AI一定要很重視為什麼我們台灣在使用AI的比率落在20名外為什麼我們的産業的製作是在第一名、第二名 |
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我們會落差這麼大,沒有對教育開始,包括孩子要生一個,不要說算了,對這個平台的立場,進入平台去找找他的地位,跟用AI化作他的工具,提升個人、人類的地位,這是一個一念之差而已。 |
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你用一個窮逢的心理 AI 出來歐巴桑會沒頭腦 世王會沒頭腦 彭佩娜沒頭腦大家都沒頭腦 老師也沒頭腦不是這樣 |
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所以對教育要勇敢打出第一步強加大幅度的 強加對AI的認知 把AI當作是工具提升我們人類的地位 將來我們能夠跟這個機器人電腦繼續競爭這樣不比較對 為什麼社會變成大家看講到AI專門民了 一個正面 一個負面 兩極化 這嚴重為什麼 |
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基本上我引動委員所講的說法就是說這個科技的快速發展不是因為這樣我們就沒辦法了我們要怎麼利用這個科技給我們的大陸但是你現在夠又不足了 很多人變成這樣了有啦 我們現在也向委員報告我們在這個AI專門維修開始上包括老師 我也跟他們說我們一年多用幾千的 這樣是不夠的 |
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老師的真能我們應該要數以萬計要交換這個速度就是說我們現在要做目標跟委員所想的事是相同的陰性逐一跟我說 你的大娘你就是所有教育教育的人 |
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你身體力行之後所有的人就用你做計標了這是長期不是叫你要做老但是你長期這個風氣起來之後會普遍包括總統 行政委員包括所有台北省下的人 |
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應該把對著AI溫馨的兇器的心理徹底擺渡這樣我們很快就跟我們的商業一樣在使用AI跟隱密AI這個領域就對了我們很快就跳到世界的三面來因為我們有很好的條件嘛但是你們的採購很多對國防、溝通、教育的採購我告訴你都比人家貴很多啦這個你來補要檢討一下這個我來檢討我請教你齁這個災危發 |
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你們對著台南市,國立的國中節,有多久你知道,我們台南市?沒關係,應該有22天啦,22天,這麼隆重耶,現在在你的手裡,一天有算是多少? |
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一間學校的預算1億到3億 公科學校會接近3億來 |
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財委法已經通過了 行政委員會準備要跟地方政府來發計劃就是說這錢要怎麼分你敢有幾位跟這22間的國立的國中職設定的台南市政府 有沒有不可能沒有 你們內部都跟我說了 |
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跟委員報告是有的 一起在進行 那最近也會進行台南官司合併的時候是專台灣災情最困難的22名到23名兩個爛兄爛弟合併 那時候我就坐在那裡等所以羅總統身為第一任的台南市長的時候就批評一天就不給你接了那時候我也支持 因為接了台南市要倒啊你現在都要等到完啊不然這個災害發台南市會說不公平啊等下來 你政府要補助多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
496.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
526.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
你告訴我 他沒有什麼可能你說要賺了 你一定要給我們算好所以接近40億左右沒有啦 左右是左到右是左還是右啊40億往上往上 是你說的很不合理 錢的事情 親兄弟明算帳因為他有一些細算 除了人事經費還要算到一些部署案40億是你要補助完就對了補助台南市 所以看財化法完全沒有關係說得好喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
527.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
541.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
像現在我們財務的法 這裡要怎麼訂的錢這個40億是都沒有管的 不知道來的喔 對不對就是像前面的三個縣市一樣 那個是按照98年的要求請抱歉 你說的96%嘛 對不對 台南市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
547.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
557.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
到時候都一樣 因為這三個縣市收的時候新北市是92%所以差4% 我們給他5500萬 類似這樣台中市是96%感謝 本席幫你說明一下 台南市冬季時期不應該合併的情形 要用文化合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
572.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
590.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
是在兩個官司 台南市跟台南官司 災情最困難的時候來合併結果這大中間 民進黨公眾被侵染 已經執政高端了對台南的災情沒幫忙 現在一個財委發通過以後說 哇 這樣對台南市沒公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
591.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
616.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
假如一百六十三億我們有什麼不公平 好啦 你如果說這個學校要賺回來給台南市接受啦 編制啦本身希望你做一個精神 在一個月內 因為這是明年的事情一個月內 我希望你把這裡所有國立的高中這個學校的武聖名聲 跟二百台南市廖豪財政的幾位上來本身的辦公室 這樣我回答好嗎好 好 感謝你 |