| IVOD_ID |
16423 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16423 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-26T08:29:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-26T09:27:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:57:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/7a505bc1fba11f2dc7e719fa4ce89b4f4d503f9c4523e5716d1319bf84c91682995455c6eb3e890a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：繼續處理院會交付113年度中央政府總預算決議，國防部主管預算凍結案等4案。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:29:58 - 09:27:00 |
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報告委員會出席委員8人以足法定人數到9點了我們開會請議事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第22次全體委員會議議事錄時間 中華民國113年12月16日星期一上午9時1分至12時56分12月18日星期三上午9時2分至12時29分下午1時至7時58分12月19日星期四上午9時1分至12時30分下午1時30分至4時11分地點 紅樓山林議會議室出席委員王定宇等11人列席委員邱益穎等12人 |
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1872.685 |
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1895.037 |
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列席人員﹐12月16日﹐侨務委員會委員長許家青及所屬人員﹐行政院主計總署專門委員邱碧珠﹐12月18日﹐國防部部長顧立雄及所屬人員﹐行政院主計總署專門委員邱碧珠﹐12月19日﹐國防部部長顧立雄及所屬人員﹐行政院主計總署專門委員邱碧珠﹐主席王昭吉委員定宇﹐12月16日﹐星期一﹐報告事項 |
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1920.884 |
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宣讀上次會議議事錄．決定確定．討論事項一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於僑務委員會．主管收支公開基金部分二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位．預算關於僑務委員會．主管信託基金一、裝守公益基金二、受理捐贈僑生獎助學金及堅困地區僑民學校施支輔助基金 |
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1921.984 |
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1947.356 |
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僑務委員會委員長許家青報告委員林儲英等9人質詢．由僑務委員會委員長許家青等即席答覆決議一登記質詢在場委員均已發言完畢報告及詢答結束二委員所提口頭及書面質詢未及答覆或要求提供資資訊請僑務委員會與二周內以書面答覆本會全體委員並附資本會委員令指定期限者從其所定三委員王逸川所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
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1948.236 |
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1958.943 |
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4.第二案令則其繼續審查5公開部分審查結果稅入部分第二款罰款及賠償收入第210項僑務委員會無劣數第3款會費收入第172項僑務委員會24000元照列第4款財產收入第220項僑務委員會8583000元照列 |
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1968.376 |
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1988.023 |
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第7款其他收入第219項僑務委員會62萬5千元照列稅出部分第21款僑務委員會主管不含機密部分第一項僑務委員會原列19億7千345萬5千元簡列一第6目僑生回國升學及僑親培訓研習向下擴大培育及留用僑生中業務費500萬元二第7目僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務向下辦理僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務中業務費至一般數費100萬元 |
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1997.947 |
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2005.93 |
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以上共計檢列6百萬元科目均致行調整區域均造列改列為19億6745萬5千元本項通過決議33項6.機密部分審查結果命略其114年度中央政府總預算案關於求務委員會主管說之公開及機密部分審查完均審查結果送財政委員會會長後提報院會不需交由黨團協商院會討論時由王昭吉委員定於處洗說明 |
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．有關委員提案內容文字及金額在不影響提案原意下授權一事人員修正處理。12月18日,星期三,討論事項繼續懲查114年度中央政府總預算案．關於國防部主管授資公開及機密部分,不含國家安全局部分． |
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2041.261 |
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2056.982 |
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決議本案113年12月19日繼續審查12月19日新啟示討論事項繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國防部主管授資公開及機密部分不含國家安全局部分決議依公開部分審查結果 |
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2057.903 |
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2077.822 |
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稅務部分不含國家安全局部分第二款罰款及賠償收入第77項國防部五萬元照列第三款歸非收入第62項國防部一萬五千元照列第四款財產收入第88項國防部一百五十四萬五千元照列第七款其他收入第87項國防部六十六萬六千元照列 |
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2078.963 |
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2095.39 |
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稅出部分不含國家安全局部分第9款國防部主管不含機密部分第一項國防部原列17億321萬4千元簡列第一幕一般行政項下基本行政工作維持中設備及投資資資訊軟硬體設備費100萬元科目執行調整其餘軍造列改列為17億221萬4千元本項通過決議33項 |
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2104.532 |
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2113.919 |
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稅入部分不含國家安全局部分第二款罰款及賠償收入第78項國防部所屬6億129萬元照列第三款規費收入第63項國防部所屬77萬8千元照列第4款財產收入第89項國防部所屬原列70億8762萬元增列第一幕財產珍惜第二節租金收入100萬元其餘均照列改列為70億8862萬元 |
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2133.852 |
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2152.34 |
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第5款營業營餘及事業收入第三項國防部所屬15億元照列第7款其他收入第88項國防部所屬20億3393萬6千元照列稅出部分不含國家安全局部分第9款國防部主管不含機密部分第二項國防部所屬 |
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2153.598 |
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2164.782 |
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不含第10目國防支出機密計劃及第12目科學支出機密計劃原列4475億5663萬8千元除第7目非營業特種基金15億4392萬4千元暫照列是所屬非營業特種基金審議確定在行調整外檢列依第一目軍事行政2200萬元依政治作戰局200萬元依軍醫局 |
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2180.2 |
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2201.326 |
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軍事醫療作業中業務費兩千萬元第三目教育訓練業務一千五百萬元依海軍司令部教育行政業務費制物品一百萬元二空軍司令部教育行政中業務費制一般事務費一百萬元訓練綜合作業中業務費制軍事裝備及設施兩百萬元三全民防衛動員署動員整備九百萬元含設備及投資中軟硬體設備費兩百萬元雜項設備費兩百萬元及業務費制物品五百萬元 |
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2210.885 |
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2220.214 |
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國防大學教育行政中業務費至一般書費100萬元﹐吳參謀本部動員整備100萬元﹐第4幕後請及通知業務4150萬元﹐一陸軍司令部2900萬元﹐一通訊電子與資訊管理向下業務費200萬元﹐二軍事單位裝備零附件構置及保修中業務費至軍事裝備設施養護費有關辦理CM11N60 |
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2237.51 |
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2240.873 |
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A3組合型戰車訓練模擬器等11項維修、維治案。114年度檢列1000萬元。3軍事單位裝備零附件購置及保修中業務費之軍事裝備設施養物費有關辦理 |
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2255.994 |
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2268.801 |
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A.H-64-1桌邊設備及保修訓練器及UH-60M保修訓練器為保案全案檢列6000萬元114年度檢列1200萬元4.獲請補給資源向下業務費之軍事裝備設施養護費500萬元2.空軍司令部軍事單位裝備零附件購物至及保修向下業務費軍事裝備及設施辦理戰鬥各裝防護頭盔戰鬥背心及抗彈板 |
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2285.309 |
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2306.179 |
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裝備零附件採購所需軍事裝備及設施一千萬元,三全民防衛動員署,後勤補給資源向下誘廢製物品,辦理通用服裝等籌補所需物品兩百萬元,四軍事情報局後勤補給資源五十萬元,五一般裝備陸軍司令部,攻擊無人機飛彈系統四十五億七千九百六十萬元, |
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2307.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2323.697 |
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第8目一般建築及設備1317萬元一第二屆營建工程1000萬元二海軍司令部第二屆營建工程向下訓練設施工程中設備及投資之防務建築及設備費辦理林園靶場展修工程所需防務建築及設備費117萬元三軍醫局 |
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2328.001 |
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2337.769 |
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軍醫局第4屆其他設備向下醫療設備中第4作戰區高階持證及證紙斷層掃描系統整備200萬元以上工具檢列46億7127萬元科目軍智型調整區域軍造列改列為4428億8536萬8千元本項通過決議270項 |
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2354.546 |
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2357.567 |
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2.機密部分審查結果命略3. |
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| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2372.271 |
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114年度中央政府總預算案關於國防部主管說之公開及機密部分審查完略。審查結果送財政委員會會審後提報院會。需交由黨團協商院會討論時,有望召集委員定於出席說明。4. |
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2372.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2378.613 |
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有關委員提案內容文字及金額再不影響提案原意下授權議事人員修正處理。宣讀完畢 |
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2381.728 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2409.066 |
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請問在場委員對於上一次會議議事錄有無遺漏錯誤或需要更正之處沒有的話我們議事錄確定那請議事人員宣讀今天的報告事項報告事項2繼續處理院會交付113年度中央政府總預算決議．國防部主管預算提出書面報告後使得凍結等4案一陸軍司令部第8幕第二節上下裝訓部坑子口訓練場整建工程案預算凍結300萬元案 |
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2410.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2418.799 |
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二陸軍司令部第8幕第二節向下．莊訓部長長安營區訓練場整建工程案預算凍結500萬元案三海軍司令部第5幕向下．魚叉飛彈海岸防衛系統預算凍結500萬元案四軍備局第11幕向下．軍品研發中也佔全身行動力外骨骼系統開發預算凍結100萬元案宣讀完畢 |
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2436.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2452.523 |
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跟各位同仁報告我們今天處理的報告事項是當時我們決議書面報告後使得凍結那經同意的當然我們可以表決但是本席決定我們經同意的還是溝通完略我們再排上來所以總共11個凍結案 |
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2454.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2475.701 |
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我們照當時委員會決議書面報告後使得凍資那他們書面報告已經進來了所以我們就是照程序把它列案那希望各位同仁我們可以照程序來處理以上是報告事項那接下來我們要進行介紹在場委員跟與會官員之前今天因為有兩個段落的會議 |
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2481.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2508.211 |
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馬委員請請主席我想請教一下所以剛剛那個報告事項現在目前的那個解凍案是怎麼樣等一下會處理那個是書面報告後就可以動之可是我們如果還有意見我是建議這樣子馬委員因為我們當時開會沒有因為明年有的要經同意的我知道如果這樣會大家比較沒有這樣的共識因為我們是希望因為我們到現在還沒有看到他的解決方案而且每一個 |
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2509.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2523.7 |
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上述的這4案全部都是延宕的所以如果用這樣的處理因為我們在明年也有凍結那它也沒有影響進度事實上現在都還在做所以我們希望不要用這樣的處理模式好不好我們希望因為這樣我印象是總共11個案 |
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2527.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2538.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
其中雷同的案子有7個案當時是需經同意時的動作因為有時候我們沒有特別再提經同意主要是因為如果他可以達到這樣的標準那沒有問題可是現在我們剛剛提到的這4個解凍案全部都是延宕的 |
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2545.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2568.207 |
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我待會會問有沒有意義好不好雖然不用金同意我會處理問大家有沒有意義那我覺得這也討論很多了啦那如果有意義那我們再來做處理我都希望這個案子都不大我希望這照程序大家如果回憶我們上個禮拜在審國防預算的時候其實需要金同意的交委員表達我從來沒有否決過通會發放金同意 |
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2568.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2568.787 |
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今天有兩節 |
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2592.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2610.618 |
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第一段就是剛才處理的那個書面報告的解凍案那待會我們會來進行處理那今天顧立雄部長如果大家看媒體有報導啦今天總統府有兵推啦那禮拜四也會有軍談所以因為我們處理這個案子也不是重大案子所以 |
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2611.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2637.723 |
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顧立雄部長在昨天請假本席按照召委職權我給予准假這是第一段的部分我們第二段會議因為是跟司法法制聯席審查進行條約的一個案子裡面包含了跟德國的刑事司法互助跟土瓦魯的刑事司法互助跟聖露西亞的刑事司法互助 |
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2638.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2638.303 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
陳永康委員 |
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2655.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2664.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
許曉鑫委員、馬文君委員、羅美玲委員、陳冠廷委員、林楚瑛委員、王逸川委員、沈伯陽委員 |
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2675.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2688.821 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
我們來介紹一下我們第一階段與會的官員這一位我在委員會介紹官員從來沒有要求鼓掌過別的委員會有我們都沒有但是因為許願樸我們兩個認識的時候你還是少叫嘛 |
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2690.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2702.567 |
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選普是我們原住民同胞第一個擔任少將中將到上將他在2月1號要藉臨退伍了那今天他代表部長所以今天 |
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2703.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
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部長請假算是特別指定他來這邊來代表列席我相信馬委員應該有感受我們兩個跟他認識一樣久了所以我們待會介紹到請各位同仁我們用掌聲謝謝他為國家付出他的心力一輩子在軍旅生涯當中不管在陸軍總部或者在軍備副部長的任內對國家的貢獻卓著那我們有幸雖然不一定黨派相同能夠在這個會議室裡面一起為國家國防努力那 |
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長官那句話能夠跟你在這邊成為某種同事深表榮幸我們今天代表列席的官員是徐元甫副部長恭喜榮退長務次長楊吉榮參事石文榮軍備局局長林文祥主計局局長謝其賢陸軍司令部參謀長陳建義 |
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海軍司令部參謀長邱俊榮中科院計劃主持人任國光行政院主計總處專門委員黃子涵好我們現在先處理第一個部分報告事項這個 |
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院會交付113年度中央政府總預算決議．國防部主管預算凍結案當中提出書面報告後就可以動之,使得動之的4案那現在書面報告都已經送交本會請問各位委員對於預算解凍有無異議來,馬委員請 |
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這部分有意義因為這4個案子明年幾乎持續因為除了外國格的這個部分其他的都還是明年都有背新的凍結主要是因為現在沒有辦法提出說他的改善方向因為所有案子都延長這個是防禦系統那個嗎對 |
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對,就是康字口的訓練場還有長安營區的訓練場這些部分因為在我們的戰車來了以後它到現在還沒有做好可是我們沒有看到它積極的作為那個不是拿來說你做了什麼做了什麼 |
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他把大部分的經費都用在那現在也用了可是我們希望他應該要有一個整體的規劃到現在我們沒有看到而且他持續工程是延宕落後當中所以他對我們很多的比如說戰力的訓練啊因為你像現在你就必須放在別的地方或者在別的地方先做這些的訓練 |
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所以這個部分如果他因為提出書面報告因為他的書面報告並沒有完整的去說明他應該要怎麼改善所以我們到明年還會凍結那你如果現在把這些解凍而且沒有影響他的進度啊他都可以持續做可是他在沒有提供比較完善的一個書面報告之前我認為這樣解凍那我們所有的凍結的動作其實都沒有意義 |
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這個部分我們希望大家可以針對有效的預算審查最後一個就是全身型動力外骨骼的部分 |
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我們在昨天其實有看到媒體有出現南韓他大概也出現像因為這全世界都在推嘛包括福特公司其實他現在在他的那個整個廠房裡面其實大概都是用這些在運作了我們提供這樣的資源 |
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中央政府總預算決議．國防部主管預算 |
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那你如果通通沒有讓我們看到之前的我們為什麼一定要一直一直不斷的給預算而且它有一些相關的關鍵技術其實它是階梯式的螺旋式的它必須要疊加上去而不是你新的預算用一個新的所以就這4個案子為什麼我有意見的原因在這裡我們也不希望說大家提出來然後就給它過那我們明年可能就會那些要求會更嚴謹謝謝 |
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好謝謝馬委員我們要求一項都很嚴謹現在有幾個思維我讓我們委員會同仁大家一起思考看看然後待會我們來進行處理第一個這個4個案子是順便報告後就可以動之了不用經同意這第一個第二個同樣的項目明年還是有凍結也就是說我們對這4個案子還是可以在明年度進行 |
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監督跟管理而且我印象明年的話我們是經同意才能凍資這個設定的條件更嚴格那第三個我們案子也不能一直在那邊一直凍結在那裡那至於說不管是坑子口長安或者動力骨骼這個預算的凍結目的是為了監督那我也不會去考慮到這個主管機關這個凍結對他們業務有沒有影響因為如果凍結需經同意 |
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那我們不同意你還是不能弄我不管有沒有影響那這個凍結因為這個案子真的當時設定的條件是書面報告後使得凍結所以我請馬委員思考一下各位思考一下我們這邊不要再細部討論因為這討論過了啦這是上次委員會討論過了那相關的延續型的案子我們在上個禮拜也都討論過了也就是第一個他是書面報告後就可以凍結的案子 |
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那第二個我們同樣的案子在明年度我們不止還有凍結數而且我印象都是經同意使得凍之也就馬尾我們監督的力道其實是更強的沒有沒有減弱然後第三個就是說 |
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院裡面已經把書面報告所凍結案發到委員會我覺得我們還是要依照程序來做處理那這個跟各位委員是不是溝通一下我真的不想用表決了我非常不想在外交國防委員會用表決馬委員這幾個案子金額不大我們就讓他書面報告因為真的他就是書面報告就可以凍結了反對啦你還是要表決好吧好這4案我們要一個一個表決嗎 |
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應該是一包還是一個一個一個好了啦因為如果像這樣子凍結所以我們如果編了14年的東西你不可能第一年第二年第三年都凍結這就是為什麼要監督的原因如果是這樣的話 |
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因為這個當時委員會設定就是書面報告就可以凍結了那我們是不是按照原來上次委員會設定的就是書面報告後時的凍結等4案我們從第一案開始陸軍司令部第8幕第2節向下裝訓部坑子口這就M1A2的那個訓場這個如果新同仁的話這是M1A2的訓場 |
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裝訓部坑子口訓練場整建工程案預算凍結300萬元案我們現在表決是各位同仁是否贊成是否贊成按照原來設定條件書面報告後就可以凍資這樣子比較不會違反我們原來的決議好不好第一案贊成的請舉手 |
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5票反對的請舉手5票對3票我們就照上一次設定的決議書面報告後就可以動之第二案陸軍司令部第8幕第二節向下裝訓部長安營區訓練場整建工程案這個都跟M1A2有關係的案子預算凍結500萬元案 |
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是否贊成按照原設定條件書面報告後就可以動之就使得動之贊成的請舉手反對的請舉手 |
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5票對3票贊成通過第3案海軍司令部第5幕向下魚叉飛彈海岸防衛系統預算凍結500萬元案贊成案原設定條件書面報告後就可動之贊成的請舉手反對的請舉手 |
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好謝謝這個贊成者多數就照原設定條件書面報告後使得動之第4案軍備局第11幕向下軍品研發中野戰全身型動力外骨骼系統開發預算凍結100萬元案是否支持按照原委員會設定條件書面報告後使得動之贊成的請舉手 |
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以上4案同意凍結提報院會 |
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本會與司法法治委員會聯席審查三項條約案,其中跟德國的司法行事互助相當重要,希望本會委員都能出席參與。另外, |
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跟本會同仁報告,待會如果有司法法制的同仁過來也一併會再跟他們說一次那個林佳龍部長下午一點半以後也是一樣因為總統府有公務這個不可列席那這個公務還是對外的本院今天的在一點半以後一點半以後他請假 |
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本會同仁因為兩個委員會我們時間4加2非本委員會同仁4分鐘啦齁這個我先跟各位宣告好我們現在是要先散會還是應該散會喔我們是兩段會喔好我們現在第一階段會議散會待會10點半進席聯審謝謝 |