| IVOD_ID |
164215 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164215 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T12:46:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T12:55:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db6224ac39407e03d6032e8c280ed77980f0febda90f1cdde829b03abd11ba7a7725ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:46:50 - 12:55:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長林宜敬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【10月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 是不是請事務發布林部長來 林部長請施安署蔡署長蔡署長請委員你好林部長跟蔡署長就你們施政報告提出幾個問題向您請教是這個經濟部會提出一個戲盾那昨天那個金管會彭指委提出一個金融盾 |
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盾的部分就是一個加強防衛能力加強競爭力包括這個韌性的提高但資安很重要資安牽涉到國家安全牽涉到產業的這個競爭力所以牽涉到個人隱私所以這部分這個未來整個資安的這個相關的措施 做法 政策應該要建立一個資安盾的概念您同意嗎是 同意 |
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所以更多的精進作為包括你們今天的這個你們施政報告裡面強化資安的韌性是是你們施政主要目標另外弱勢打炸的作為是有關聯性是所以我我想請教如果你提升一個資安盾的概念你要有更多的預算是更多積極的作為是而且是有效的作為是你才能把這個盾建立起來是當然 |
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所以這個部分你有沒有什麼未來的想法現在的相關的治安的這個作為或者政策就足夠了是 我們主要在治安方面的那個策略當然主要一方面我們是希望說增加我們政府處理這個治安事件的這個量能不管是事前事中事後 我們的這個能量你個人覺得目前的國家預算給你夠不夠給你蘇發部預算夠不夠 |
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當然我永遠會覺得不夠啦但是我們有多少預算我們當然就做多少事當然希望爭取更多的預算那另外我們也會努力的扶植台灣的資安產業希望能利用台灣資安產業的力量來共同守護台灣政府機關關鍵基礎設置以及民間企業不管是大企業或中小企業的資安我們希望是用這種方式來處理 |
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盾是一個中型目標盾是所有任何的攻擊作為任何資安保護你是做到滴水不漏對不對這部分你覺得離到這個資安盾的建構完成大概還有 |
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大概完成多少比例以目前來看跟委員報告因為那個資安的事情跟打仗一樣都是好人跟壞人之間不斷的攻防我們好人這邊一直把那個各種漏洞都堵住但是那個壞人就不斷的找各種漏洞不管是詐騙的漏洞也好資安的漏洞也好所以才會出現一個名詞叫零日Zero dayZero day vulnerability就是你發現的第一天那叫Zero day vulnerability然後這種新的這種漏洞不斷會出現所以零日總共 |
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永遠不會消失對 永遠不會消失所以我沒辦法講說是哪一天我可以把這個資安頓做到滴水不漏因為永遠會發生主要做到更好是 沒錯但是永遠沒辦法做到這個最好因為最好是因為你永遠它這個陳述不窮然後日新月異有新的這個手段是 沒錯所以你只能要求自己做到更好是 沒錯好 就您的這個施政報告裡面 |
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這個建構台灣主權AI的訓練與料庫是這個要花多少預算這個預算我們請我們的資料室市長現在建構中嘛是現在建構中大概要多久完成呢 |
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報告委員這個建構台灣的語料庫大概我們今年跟國科會申請大概400萬那我們現在已經在建置這個系統當中同時我們在建置系統的過程當中我們也開始進行部會的這個輔導讓他們盤點資料那未來這個語料庫完成之後他們就可以順利的上架那麼我們預計大概就是說在11月底的時候希望這個第一版就可以能夠上市400萬建構第一版對沒錯那未來還有第二版 |
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然後你這個範圍要擴再擴大而不是只有政府的報告而已對委員的建議沒有說好所以我們第一版是先以政府機關先行然後在明年度我們更有這個有把握的時候我們會邀請民間一起來參與這個台灣主權AI的預料庫繼續持續努力謝謝那另外第二個問題就是你要加強投資國內AI新創跟數位經濟產業 |
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所以這個國家基金也同意要匡列100億的額度是100億的額度要怎麼去分配呢你說用專案申請而且你要找一個天使投資機構來搭配嘛是比方說A公司要申請你們這個AI新創實施方案他必須先找一個天使投資機構事實上是創投機構不是天使投資不是天使創投機構創投機構1比1投資嗎1比1最高可以到1比2政府出2 |
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誘因的才提高我覺得如果能夠1.5因為AI新創這需要就是資金如果你要找到民間的創投也不是那麼容易你的創投如果有投1億你如果可以投1.5億我覺得這個誘因會提高給你們建議再參考一下好不好是 好 謝謝 |
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時間到了這個主席再給我一分半好不好最後一個問題呢 |
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這個你們詐騙的源頭的詐騙管制包括網路的廣告平台第三方支付電商網路連線的這些遊戲業四大產業你從源頭的降低詐欺風險我覺得這部分要有更多的作為就像你說的ZERO DEBT的概念要有更多的作為然後讓這個詐騙的件數跟比例能夠金額能夠大幅度降低 |
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是最後一點點30秒這個執冊會我們副執行長在嗎因為今天黃董沒有來30秒跟您請教就是說 |
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這個大概林部長你也了解黃董上任之後怎麼樣讓百工百業導入AI的加速升級百工百業包括傳統產業比如說我的選區有金屬扣件在傳統產業你要怎麼百工百業導入AI加速升級這個對他們未來競爭力非常非常的關鍵 |
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那當然資策會扮演這個重要角色是 執行長您覺得目前推動這個政策最大的困難點在哪裡未來需要克服的事項還有哪些簡單跟委員報告我們為了呼應AI產業化跟產業AI化我們特別資策會也在台南沙倫那邊成立人工智慧研究所人工智慧研究院 |
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那我們目前遇到當然我們也在蘇發普的支持跟國科會的支持把這個AI導入到產業裡頭去那目前我們執行的部分是在醫療的部分跟這個 |
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這個餐飲的部分那我們目前遇到困難的部分呢恐怕是人才不足包括我們自己在recruit人所以人才不足牽涉到預算也不夠對因為預算你們這個因為財化法的關係你們這個預算大概腰斬了一半是所以你要沒有預算就沒有人力沒有人力就不能去執行還有今年今年大概是我們知識會46年以來 |
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大概沒有碰過我們的那個預算缺口那麼大的這個請部長再花點時間去怎麼去籌措更多的經費讓知識會能夠發揮這個作用讓百公百業能夠AI升級特別你剛所提的醫療跟這個餐飲所以這部分是不是能夠導入這個金屬扣件金屬扣件你說螺絲啊它也需要AI升級但是他們需要更多的經費跟協助 |
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是 這個事情我們有在努力但是因為金屬構建那邊經濟部那邊也非常的積極所以我們會跟他協調雙方都很積極現在問題不在於說我們不處理要讓施設會執行這個重大的政策需要給他們更多人力跟經費這個我請部長支持好 沒問題 謝謝部長 |