| IVOD_ID |
164192 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164192 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T11:47:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:57:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db6f0be4d497ff53f5d32e8c280ed77980fb6741136213cfef65aed41defc5d99185ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:47:44 - 11:57:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長林宜敬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【10月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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他一定是你報案以後我才主動嘛主動以後去查人去樓空是所以這個主要還是書發部你們要負起責任來委員講得非常專業事實上這個是一個政府之間的分工那我們首先必須講說詐騙集團他的運作方式他通常是先在Facebook這種公開的平台上他發一個假訊息或假廣告說他是黃仁勳說他是張忠謀然後把人騙到這個line的那個 |
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你講的沒錯 臺大的校長 醫學院長 張先生這些都是主持人 董事長我說你見過他沒有 他沒見過到最後才知道 錢被騙了 幾千萬有的都老師 高級知識分子我說你就貪嘛 |
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他會用各種手段你會覺得我絕對不是被詐騙的那個人最後被詐騙了他就騙嘛他編一個很好的環境讓你去參觀你會覺得信以為真所以這個我是覺得書報部我們立法院給你一些錢多做一些宣導嘛是不是 你在各種不同的單位像地檢署你看都演講防毒 |
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你們警察機關也可以做啊地檢署也可以做啊法務部啊很多單位機關團體啊多宣導嘛是不是你民眾無知起碼你對這些公務員啊你讓他認知以後他回去啊對這些民眾啊他也會他的宣導的力量比你電視這個還強因為現在年輕人不看電視了因為電視每天都是那樣的嘛像我的話很多台我都閃掉了根本都不聽你胡說八道些什麼東西所以你這個落實社群的平台責任很重要齁 |
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那我要請問部長目前平均的報案大概有34萬件一年34萬件裡面大概有APP證實的應該有APP報案的是34萬件那麼經過查證是18萬件左右大概每個月1萬多件你能不能就像剛才你所講的比如說我用張忠謀先生做主導人做主持人什麼的 |
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你收到第一通詐騙的時候你趕快全部都要清查甚至網站把它封鎖你動作要快啊 是不是所以你的封鎖網址你用的時間多長你這個要注意到有沒有方法能夠更進一步的精進 |
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是委員講的完全沒錯事實上時間是非常重要的因為現在其實詐騙集團也知道說他如果發一個那個詐騙的廣告或詐騙訊息其實大概在24小時之內都會被我們速發布加上這個Meta還有這個Google Line我們會把他下架可是他就在想辦法在這24小時的時間裡面他把這個潛在的受害人騙到他的這個封閉性群組裡面你們這個動作要快是你不然的話你到立法院來 |
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你看每個立法委員都諮詢你啊你到底這個責任是誰要負是不是你不要一下是內政部一下速發部一下NCC一下中華電信你一扯一推256誰都沒管到好不好 |
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跟委員報告就是如同我們剛才講的錢斷斷防止民眾被從公開的平台上騙到這個LINE封閉群組這是數八部的責任然後開始那個騙到錢以後那個詐騙集團開始轉錢開始洗錢的時候這是金管會的責任然後等到民眾去報案的時候這個時候才是不過你們開這個會連結起來好不好是有這個我想你們應該有專業人員腦袋比我們都清楚嘛是 |
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你不要到立法院一直被立法委罵我們也不是要去罵你民意代表的壓力因為時間的關係我請問第四海欄台馬第四號海欄你說明年六七月份五六月份要完工嗎可以完工嗎 |
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是 我們現在請任性司司長報告委員如果海象這個量好的話應該是可以你不要扯到海象啊你扯到六七月份應該把海象風災颱風全部所有因素都算進去了嘛是不是你不要提到天災人禍 海嘯地震那到底哪一年現在是預期115年6月據我瞭解喔廠商有壓力據我的瞭解明年能不能完工啊我給你打一個很大的問號 |
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我希望你們趕快動作快一點好不好你們要積極的去處理這個事情好不好 這個我很關心台馬第四條海嵐另外在前幾天就是10月8號有一條大陸漁船閩連漁60138號漁船這條船在我們公海上它是脫網 |
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脫網勾到另外一條船的錨定另外一條船的錨定跟我們第二號海欄又扯在一起然後造成兩星他一共第二號海欄是12星兩星訊號異常也就可能有沒有斷了還是怎麼樣不知道這邊中心馬上就做處理 |
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也就是把第二號海纜的兩星的這個斷的部分把它切換切換到三號海纜那現在這邊中華電信已經把它處置完畢也沒有發生什麼損失啦因為這海纜很老舊了嘛你碰一下搞不好啊你來碰我們年輕人的皮膚沒問題碰到老人隨便碰一下骨頭就斷啦那中華電信目前也沒有什麼很大的意見啦 |
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也沒有證據顯示是這條漁船因為他在公海上那這件事呢我們的海巡隊把他送到地檢署地檢署大概要用國安法來處置國安法處置那就太嚴重了這條船沒有任何故意的問題他要故意的話他已經跑掉了嘛哪容你海巡去抓他是不是他卻在那邊等候那麼現在中華電信那邊我也跟他談了 |
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他說沒有造成其他損害大概就和解了彼岸的國台辦、省台辦很關心啊很關心他們早天要找誰呢現在跟海基會也是聯絡不上跟我們陸委會也是已讀不回那怎麼辦呢 就找到我那所以我在關切這個事情這個事情很像是法務部 |
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國安會都知道這個事情因為它不是像我們國安法裡面蓄意的要把它弄斷不是蓄意的而且中華電力目前也沒有任何的損失啦因為那個老舊嘛我希望部長回去瞭解一下部長回去瞭解一下這二號海欄因為兩岸的關係非常的嚴峻你知道嗎 |
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有關兩岸的事務我們現在也陸委會海基會也無法去置入去處理所以這個部分他們委託我 拜託我我想部長這邊你去了解一下因為也不是故意的目前中華電也沒有任何的損失我們及早把老百姓我想大家都是國人同胞嘛是不是彼岸的鄉親也是我們一起的鄉親嘛是不是我們在在法理心的立場我拜託部長這個事情 |
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能夠積極去回去以後積極處理一下協調一下國安會或是什麼好不好我想這個也沒有造成任何動盪也不是故意的好不好我想部長謝謝你好謝謝趙偉好謝謝 |