| IVOD_ID |
164165 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164165 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T11:20:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:30:31+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db6fe4edd35e3dbb0051d8817d393176c4392e8362d61d61ef2433ed581e36198385ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:22 - 11:30:31 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席 各位委員 有請部長我們請部長 謝謝部長好 辛苦了今天一開始我還是要先談整個馬太安菸賽福的過程不是要去救者而是說因為發生這麼大的災害 |
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相關的災害的救助或是相關的措施就要從官去處理要去從官去處理好我們看這個 |
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農業部林業及自然保育署的一個報告裡面針對馬鞍西淹塞府災害現況特別提到109年起然後也提到113年我就不再重複了就是說這個109年起這個就開始逐年擴大這個汐水面積也提到了113年 |
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又提到這個更是開始擴大今年的8月13號立法院做了一個決議開挖易紅道開挖易紅道有困難的話最起碼修築堤防固床工程這個是當初8月13號的一個議事錄8月13號的議事錄立法院 |
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本席在8月20號也發文召開協調會因為我看到的資料是說10月初就要開始疫流都沒有下雨的話10月初就疫流所以我們緊急召開協調會這個會議結論也特別請各機關積極辦理開挖易洪道 修築地方 庫船工程等 |
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好 我們看這個災後災後水利署十天十天完成這個加速設置土堤防線三重保護更加穩固十天 完成了這個中期的部分復建工程 |
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到明年的4月防汛期前完成緊急輸進規劃今年年底也就是10 11 12三個月要完成100萬立方公尺 |
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我提這個意思說因為前面沒有做所以會造成就農業的來講農業的來講非常大的損害像這個是往事這個是那個板柵農場這個整個往事的機器全部都壞了全部都壞了 |
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這個農田全部被淹沒農田被淹沒農田被淹沒農田被淹沒農機也被淹沒農田也是被淹沒這個以這個為例土都已經到了一樓的房子一樣高了當然農田的淹沒也是一樣也是一樣這個農田這個是 |
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這颱風淺風災害淺這個差很多真的差很多這個很強烈的對比好這個農業部這段時間也做了很多的相關的這些救助或是重建或是相關的這些輔導很重要的就是說這裡面呢一再的 |
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对象就是自有耕地或成株耕地这个部分我们就必须要去考量这里面也是一样这个腌农田流失买莫专案辅导措施就是你还是以自有耕地或成株耕地这样的一个为主 |
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308.401 |
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335.517 |
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像这个农业资财农基剂也是变成要自有的要有农基证明类似像这样的像这个都必须要去考虑怎么样针对受害它一样是受害像这个农地专案农契咒这个修根这些你们都有做了我现在包括农田的复原各方面 |
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363.167 |
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也强调的是自有耕地像这个我们就讲这个农产品农产业全品项你是只限于光复箱啊凤梨镇也是有啊所以就不要去凤梨镇也应该比较农产业全品项不能只有光复箱啊 |
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所以這個部分是因為我實地去看了 去了解 去勘查了所以這個部分也應該要把它補列進去很重要的是說尤其是原住民的部分原住民保留地我們有取得所有錢的有的還沒有取得所有錢 還在作業中鄉鎮公所工廠管理機關都已經勘查 |
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419.799 |
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同意符合振化边保育地可以取得收入钱但是他还在作业中的明明这个土地工厂管理机关都同意他使用但是产权还在公有还在国产署像这样的一个或是在还在研明会所以这个部分也请这个 |
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農業部能夠給也給一個這個只要是能夠讓工廠管理機關證明他確實是他在耕種所以現在很多都放寬了包括我們一般的住房屋那些都放寬了只要能夠雖然沒有所有錢的房子沒有所有錢但是能夠證明說確實他的房子 |
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449.361 |
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在居住雖然沒有戶籍的現在都放寬了所以農業的部分也希望能夠放寬包括農機證明在鄉下都是這樣我買了之後我現在沒有做農了就賣給另外一個沒有買賣企業所以這個希望能夠收錢給村里長或者是農會去證明部長可以嗎 |
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委員報告您剛才所提的大部分我在去花蓮的時候就已經處理了包括農機證明我們現在也不需要農機證明了對於這個自有土地或是租地的部分你如果沒有企業的話你只要有口頭約因為有很多口頭約口頭約你只要竊竊然後竊竊未來如果地主沒有意見那就可以領如果地主認為是他的 |
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那就進到紛爭處理的機制那你這邊提到的原住民保留地所有權的農民的部分因為他沒有所有權然後他隨便指認哪一個地是他種的我沒辦法判斷所以只要是原民會那邊因為他有劃分嘛能夠提供證明他是 |
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521.538 |
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546.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
對 在那邊就請那個工廠管理機關提出證明對 他如果證明說他只是還沒有國有財政署他也可以證明他如果國有財政署也說雖然說國有財政署沒有提供租約但是也也出具的說他有在這邊種植的事實我們都可以認好這個基本上所以這個部分我們會盡量的去處理這個本來我們就在處理的還是要有公文出來好不好我們 |
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572.356 |
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該有的我們都會有包括這些都能夠有個白紙黑字地方政府才可以或是農會還是相關受理的單位才能夠有所依據好不好最後灌溉溝渠的部分我們就以這個例子馬太安溪他本來從這邊那個灌溉排水灌溉水但是因為 |
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573.627 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
599.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
就把它沖毀然後有時候它整個溪流因為整次的關係所以沒有了沒有水了然後這個都沒有水了我現在就跟你講跟部長講我都有照片了部長你請委員最後一句話因為最後了最後一句話鄉親認為這個抽水沒有辦法因應 |
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600.73 |
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608.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
所以這個部分怎麼樣去解決再請那個你們是哪個單位去農水署農田署再跟我討論好不好謝謝 |