| IVOD_ID |
164162 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164162 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T11:20:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:27:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db6fd3cf66e4bb05018b8aa47c7299e750c92e8362d61d61ef25dc74b8a2e1778a35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐富癸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:24 - 11:27:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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徐副國務委員發言謝主席 有請顧主委 請顧主委齊委員齊委員 主委今天我請拜託各位創業的事情 別說拜託 每年週一的核卡字體六堆建炮車 每年六堆創業的 |
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公園的民俗活動明年判的規模應有應得但是補助的錢都沒有增加過從一百一十四元一年都兩百萬那不少的主委我們在佛堂那裡六堆還有一個傳統民俗的一個慶典而且是全國的客庄十二大的一個節慶活動而且有幾個天使 |
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跟您的報告 兩百兩百萬 下落多忙民營有很大困難因為民營才化法 關於合理費不出本帖封政府的鑑一般鑑一般變一百萬所以都沒有增加有限公司所以不出本帖封的法律一百萬上限 |
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所以才化法 影響我們這個醫生我們提出的民營的醫生 設為西醫人我們民營的醫生 目前提出3519主委 面對這樣的問題我們有什麼想法嗎 要怎麼處理 |
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因為藝術界現實的人才能夠考慮我們的藝術變適做的補儲本提供的方法很安定因此藝術界有跟國研室提宣的時間有相同的範圍 |
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本議會首席為本體防政府第一像體防政府在體溫的時節一家就要有想法要體內的溫度 因爲納土屬固定的一家要選高利益百度超過一家要選高利益百當時問題 |
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主委,我們要做好注意,面對暗斗的嚇到鄉親的期待錢沒了,我們要想辦法啦,不是因為說,總之我們要...我們要原民費暗斗錢,讓他們的客戶,他們的人生這樣,壓到總批,這樣想到沒所謂的 |
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我們跟希望政府合作的時候,就是過去用補儲的方式補儲金就這樣,我們有其他合作的方式嗎? |
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屏東現在政府 屏東現在政府沒明年四月四十一一呢不是說出口嗎? |
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有些人要想辦法去處理,我們一定要支持他們但是他們在面對藥的醫生不老闆的事情,我們要想他們本人的作業上要滴下,要補充的錢要補,不然整座屏棟可能會被鄉親跟他們說,他們沒有補助屏棟,沒有照顧到屏棟 |
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我們希望劉燕營準備面對過去的壓力 是的 是的 是的好嗎 是的 因為我們接著要問的問題 請問一下你的客家幣的政策像屏東 我們前陣子有諮詢過 特約商店從60件變成1萬件128件輸給其他客家的鄉鎮屬該黨的 延屍屬該黨的現在有沒有推廣的計畫要處理嗎 |
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那一半的時間,我們會再針對送店的介入部分再一次發送它的通緝、郵件,帶進來介入送店所以還是要送店才可以...是我們宣傳推廣的做得不麻煩還是怎樣? |
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他也有可能 另外他那個行動支付他也有可能錄影感不方便 過多點可能就沒辦法用 要跟恩勇去調整啊我們要有專業站去教恩勇去省錢 要數位支付的內容恩勇的處理 但是前提 |
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點架要念以隔離 前提可以說英國要結合財稅單位來輔導加快 因為有的封片好用就用了 他的手續按反鎖就有的錄影都不可以了又不可以說明天提防中有效上的處理我們就通通來點架來邀請 主委我們針對文化發電站的部分 第一個不愧是天使 |
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我們還有提防 需要處理 包括重新來盤點有沒有預算放下 包含短時間的課餘傳承的問題包含學校 沙塘的藝文活動 全部都沒錢補助要變成文化斷層 重新麻煩 |
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我們要改善 我們要看到我們醫生變色的地方相對要沒有增加所以其實我們出師主管全部都有提出我們的問題就嚇得又哭變眼了所以也有一個大的問題 |
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因為當然我們仍然努力採訪香港人重新來討論尤其我們總統說我們要均衡台灣發展否則六都和非六都天壤地別也不公平尤其我們合作安靜地提防安土安好文化繼續來做這件事情這樣好不好好強行努力強行強行努力感謝感謝齊委員 |
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徐委員富癸：我們做為客家子弟，六堆尖炮城是我們六堆很重要的過年民俗活動，每年辦的規模越來越大，但補助的錢都沒有增加過，從112年到114年，一年有200萬，這並不夠辦耶，主委。這麼大的活動是我們六堆很重要的傳統民俗慶典，而且是全國客庄12大的節慶活動，請問這個有機會來幫忙嗎？ |
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古主任委員秀妃：跟委員報告，之前200萬下來，明年又更困難，明年因為財劃法的關係，我們客委會補助給地方政府的減了一半…… |
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徐委員富癸：少了多少錢？ |
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古主任委員秀妃：因為這是很現實的，財劃法通過之後，我們的預算變少，可以補助給地方的餅就這麼大，所以我們跟各縣市在10月的時候召開了一個會議，這個消息要給地方政府知道，請地方政府在提案的時候自己就要有想法，要提哪些案子，因為額度是固定的。 |
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徐委員富癸：自己要先過濾一次就對了？ |
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古主任委員秀妃：對，自己要先過濾一次。 |
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徐委員富癸：但問題是，你現在當主委了，面對這麼多客家鄉親的期待，錢沒有了要怎麼辦？也要想辦法，我認為我們不能就這樣，原民會這麼多錢，客委會卻越來越少，一些長輩想到這裡就睡不著耶！ |
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古主任委員秀妃：我們跟地方政府來合作看看，過去用補助的方式，現在補助減少了，我們來看有沒有其他合作的方式可以維持這樣的規模。 |
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徐委員富癸：主委，我知道現在沒錢沒辦法做事情，但是像這樣的補助案，我認為還是要檢討，好的案子、重要的案子、有意義的案子應該要怎麼處理，它明年變成補助100萬，屏東縣政府自己還要墊很多錢，屏東縣政府明年也少了42億，很可憐耶！要怎麼辦？要想辦法看看該怎麼處理，好不好？我們一定會支持你，但是要針對預算不足的事情，我想你應該要給卓院長知道，該補助給你們的錢要補，不然我現在回到屏東，看到我們的鄉親，大家都問怎麼沒有補助屏東？沒有照顧到屏東。我們兩個人都一樣，都面對很大的壓力。 |
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古主任委員秀妃：是。 |
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古主任委員秀妃：這也有可能，另外，它是行動支付，他們要有這個…… |
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徐委員富癸：這要怎麼調整？ |
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徐委員富癸：另外，關於文化發電機的部分，我知道你會幫忙，但是我們還有很多地方需要處理，包含要怎麼重新盤點，因為現在預算沒了，我也很擔心客語傳承的問題，學校社團、藝文活動都沒有錢可以補助了，我擔心這會變成文化斷層，這很重要，也很麻煩耶！ |
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古主任委員秀妃：我們也很擔心，我們也看到預算變少了，地方相對也沒有增加，所以其實我們各處室的主管也都有提出這樣的問題，客家又比較邊緣，這是一個大問題。 |
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徐委員富癸：我認為我們要努力看財劃法要怎麼樣重新來…… |
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古主任委員秀妃：應該要、應該要…… |
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徐委員富癸：大家一起討論過，尤其我們總統說的，要均衡臺灣發展，不可以六都和非六都是天壤之別，這不公平，尤其我們客庄這麼漂亮的地方，這麼多、這麼好的文化要繼續做更多事情，這樣好不好？一起努力。 |
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古主任委員秀妃：好，一起努力。 |
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徐委員富癸：好，感謝。 |
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古主任委員秀妃：感謝徐委員。 |
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主席：謝謝徐富癸委員。 |
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接下來，高金素梅委員、高金素梅委員，高金素梅委員不在。 |
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登記發言的委員除不在場者外，其餘已發言完畢，詢答結束。委員高金素梅、丁學忠所提書面質詢列入紀錄，刊登公報。書面質詢和未及答復部分，請相關單位於一週內以書面答復並副知本會。 |
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66 |
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委員會-11-4-15-4 |
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黃建賓 |
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王美惠 |
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張智倫 |
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蘇巧慧 |
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黃捷 |
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麥玉珍 |
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牛煦庭 |
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張宏陸 |
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許宇甄 |
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李柏毅 |
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吳琪銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
徐欣瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
徐富癸 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
高金素梅 |
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丁學忠 |
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31 |
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2025-10-15 |
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1148302 |
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1148302_00003 |
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立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並
備質詢 |
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1148302_00002 |