| IVOD_ID |
16416 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16416 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-25T08:30:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-25T12:44:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:13:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/f826c2e4afc302ddf4b79b998fff709fea5b031af9c32cfd6d1319bf84c91682a184a4714a8e42495ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部中央氣象署單位預算。
二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部航港局單位預算。
三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。
四、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
五、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
六、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
七、繼續審查113年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案計2案。
【12月23日、25日及26日三天一次會】） |
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好,大家早安,那現在繼續開會今天進行討論事項114年度氣象署航港局公共工程委員會通傳會通傳基金有限廣電基金預算案審查及通傳會113年度單位預算解凍案的處理現在介紹在場的委員首先我們介紹林佩祥委員好,還有我們介紹魯明哲召委 |
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秋若華委員、林俊憲委員。那我們現在介紹列席人員。交通部政務次長陳彥博次長。謝謝。行政司韓正華司長。會計處張新一處長。中央氣象署陳佳平署長。主計是劉瑜珍主任。 |
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行政院總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於行政院總預算案關於 |
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協商順序、氣象署、航港局公共工程委員會、通船會、通船基金、有限廣電基金。預算處理完畢後再處理通船會解凍案。 |
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中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案交通部中央氣象署稅路來源別預算署第二款罰款及賠償收入第146項中央氣象署62萬元第三款規費收入第119項 |
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總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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現在還沒有在現場。那我們先等一下再處理了。那我們先處理第二案。稅出通案、業務費、水電費。好,那我們請提案委員李明哲、趙偉有沒有疑問?好,謝謝主席。其實在每個單位我們針對水電費的部分,這個有增加比較多的我們都會提出來。但我們看到我們氣象局其實增加比例不多啦,差不多1.7%。 |
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1975.998 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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那就提要提書面報告後使得解凍好那第二案決議第三案稅出通貸業務費通訊費那我們請提案委員李明哲召委我們又要提問謝謝好謝謝主席那我就簡短說明那當然通訊費部分我們看到是兩年度預算比增加了573萬大概帳幅是12.8那這個部分我們也覺得通訊費你們有說明有增加了一些 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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好,謝謝魯明哲召委。那我們第三案就是稅出通案、業務費、通訊費。我們做成決議就是凍結10%,請提出書面報告給交通委員會後,使得動之。那我們現在接下來處理第四到第五案,稅出通案、業務費、資訊服務費的部分。那我們請提案委員有沒有要提問?我們林國成委員還有魯召委。 |
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九、設備及通知資訊軟體及硬體設備被檢列處委員通結數38提案案例過程。好,謝謝主席。針對於我提的第五案,主要是針對於一樣是看到今年度比去年來講多了786萬。那我們覺得增加的原因實際運用的方式我覺得應該要更具體的一個說明啦。 |
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那這個我們單位氣象署來說明主要增加的部分是中長程的新興的計畫從114年開始到122年然後89年是吧這麼長程的一個計畫那到底每一年的工作項目是什麼114年的一個啟動的一個方式是這個應該要跟我跟這個教會的委員說清楚以上說明 |
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好,那請問林國成委員有沒有想提問?經過解釋以後,我想說小三1的意思吧,好不好? |
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期間科技研究是每周一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、八、七、 |
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bicyC. |
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接下來用的相關的這個電費還有提供相關資料,我們在外部的部分是用雲端,內部的時候是我們要自己內部的資料量非常非常大,所以這是不是可以麻煩委員考量這個部分我們來提出更詳細的說明,改為凍結10%然後提書面說明是不是可以允許我們這樣子來處理。 |
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知情服務會對氣象署來說是一個很重要的經費來源因為我們現在也是使用高速電腦全球有500大電腦我們氣象局的電腦應該是排名第69名 |
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所以這個相關的資訊、電費什麼這些都是很重要的機會來這個關係到整個氣象署的這個核心心臟的一個運作請各位委員參佐 |
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好,那如果沒有其他委員有這個其他的意見,我們就來處理了。那資訊服務費的部分本席的看法是跟李昆澤委員的看法是一致的啦,因為事實上氣象的領域非常的專業,那現在也需要仰賴這個科技的一個輔助啦,那我也知道科技是日新月異的,所以在這個部分我是不是建議我們就是 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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還是要小刪一下啦反正我跟你講刪多少沒有意見了你不要說你們說實在的你們提出來我們照單前說這個也不是欸難道我也是所以經過解釋以後我也同意啊本來我要刪兩千萬啊 |
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是不是可以麻煩委員這個考量我們3100好不好? |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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第6案提案委員李昆澤委員有沒有要提問的部分李昆澤委員第6案如果沒有我們就請氣象署說明 |
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第6案有關於委辦會的部分,有來做說明,刪減的部分我可以同意不刪減,凍結500萬題說明報告或解凍。 |
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第三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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議員議員議員 |
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達到21%當然你們有說明啦因為這邊有些勞務啊規劃啊這個部分其實到最後經費並沒有這麼精確的也不是延續性的計畫這個部分我們還是希望在這個尊潔預算的角度能夠與3.5百萬凍結10%謝謝 |
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議員會議員會議 |
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那你們增加了新的這個業務的部分有向女主席做事先報告嗎?說了嗎?對我先現場稍微報告一下好了在我們提出來的紙面資料上面有 |
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2528.09 |
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第11屆第2會期交通部總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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bicy、繼續審查 |
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三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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第三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。第三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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所以這個部分是不是也可以麻煩我們來自行調整。好,那就是刪減一百萬元那就不用凍結了,那科目自行調整。好,謝謝。那我們現在處理第八案,稅出通案,設備及投資,房屋建築及設備費。那我們請提案委員,是不是有要提問的部分。我們魯明哲召委。 |
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第一頁好像只有我提案來,最主要我先來講好了,現在主席針對第8案當然是主要的一個部分是我們看到這個114就是這個之前編了871萬871萬那在這個114年我們現在預算看到變2億多啦 |
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2662.992 |
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2680.569 |
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就是就倍數來講當然成長了22倍那是不是你們申署之後因為這個是屬於房屋建築及設備費的部分啊是不是有什麼硬體的建設要去做啊那增加變成兩億多啊那雖然我們不太清楚啦所以我這邊提的是3.5千萬凍結10%以上說明 |
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好 那麼請氣象署再給您說明這邊特別跟委員報告一下的確我們在這個114年的經費變略的事比較多因為我們有一個新的計畫就是我們在下一代下一代一個九年的這個有關高速電腦建設計畫裡面包含了這個包含了我們要增加CPU和GPU的部分 |
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那在114年和115年會在我們的新竹氣象站蓋一個新的高速電腦機房那這個高速電腦機房現在在氣象署內的高速電腦機房的空間已經不足以存在未來新式的高速電腦 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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好,那麼請李坤哲委員氣象署其實我們交通委員會在過去也有辦過多次的考察那我們的高速電腦其實誠如剛才署長所言 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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所以在過去不管是專家學者或者是委員都有多次的提議認為這個高速電腦應該有一個新的建築如果我們到氣象署去看這麼重要的一個單位 |
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其實它的預算在過去編列都是不足那我們一再從這種氣象局提案成為氣象署就希望它的設備因為現在極端型氣候室內對於人民的生命財產衝擊威脅非常的大所以我們現在在目前的高速電腦的這樣的一個相關設備以及相關的這一些 |
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謝謝李坤哲委,那我們請魯明哲召委。 |
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好 謝謝主席那當然針對這個我們署長的說明之後那這個部分我們是支持的因為現在很多部分全世界在比算力嘛那這種高速電腦當然是尤其在氣象的領域我們覺得是很重要但是你現在這個錢剛剛的語意是說會好好討論好好研究是你這個錢是編起來囤在這裡的還是說明年馬上就要發包而且要2億要用 |
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總共建設金額? |
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第8案有關稅出通案、設備及投資、房屋建築及設備費。我們決議凍結10%,提書面報告後,使得凍支。 |
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接下來我們處理第九到第十案,就是有關稅出通案、設備及投資、資訊軟體、軟硬體設備費。這邊我們請提案委員,林國成委員。 |
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經過溝通以後因為我本來是主張凍結百分之三十還有三減一億但是經過他們的解釋以後因為這些專業單位基本上我們還是支持可以凍結百分之十然後建議就小三以下好不好 |
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請問魯明哲、趙偉,沒有了。好,那我們請氣象署這邊說明。這個真的非常感謝委員來幫我們考量。因為的確真的我們這個氣象署的預算不是很多。那個其實每一點錢都 |
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這是在刀口上面啦那當然在這個部分我們希望說我們還是會提出說明啦那刪減的部分我們是不是就一百萬好不好好謝謝委員感謝感謝 |
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好了,署長,您再明確說明一下,然後也針對刪減的金額,您認為,因為這個林委員也尊重你們的專業嘛,就是說,因為他也同意不要傷那麼多,那你們看能夠調整多少。我再向各位委員說明一下, |
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交通委員會：或者是交通部：各單位裡面：最高位、最實在的就是氣象署啦你看我們的署長陳署長還有吳旺華也在這裡你看那個外實在外高位就好了那那個署長你自己說明一下 |
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﹏﹏﹏ |
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議員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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好,謝謝署長的說明。好,那我就來做處理了。那因為我們都知道,這個科技的進步是日新月異,然後月新的科技那個費用也都蠻高的。所以這邊我是不是建議我們就是三減一百萬,然後凍結百分之十,然後提書面報告後,使得凍支。好,客戶自行調整。對,還是客戶自行調整。謝謝委員。 |
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我們現在處理第11案稅出通案判員出國計畫實習這個部分我們請提案委員林國成委員改組決議 |
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好那我們第11案稅收通案派人出國計劃實習我們改組決議好謝謝我們現在處理第12到第43案第一幕氣象科技研究發展然後這個預算預算數是14億八千九百五十四萬三千元好那我們現在請提案委員有沒有要提問的李俊憲委員 |
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感謝主席各位同仁提議第22案這是關於氣象科技研究主要跟農漁民都有關係的要幫助農業漁業氣象預報輔助農民防範天氣災害第一個但是臨近農作專區的農業氣象站 |
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這是很重要的一個東西目前你全國覆蓋率只有38覆蓋率不到4成那這個直接關係到農業保險因為農業保險其中有一項的參數就是根據我們氣象站的一個指數所以你氣象站分布的點還有距離就會影響到理賠標準 |
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所以你氣象站設得少那造成以氣象參數型的保單那農民就沒有辦法投保也沒有意願保險公司也不做了其中這二隻氣象以氣象參數型的保單只有一項的投保率大於10%其他投保率都很差你像石斑魚跟連結醬魚那樣投保率為零 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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另外第26案每一年氣象署有花很多錢在做軟體那軟體其中跟民眾有關係的就是APP所以氣象署有一個生活氣象有一個地震測報等等很多熱活天氣一大堆的其中主要有六項的APP |
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但是除了生活氣象下載人數有超過100萬以外其他像地震撤報是同類型的APP排名第32名而且評分2.0是氣象署的所有軟體排名最後一名你那個什麼樂活氣象樂活氣象推出來到現在只有7萬人次下載 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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另外還有一個第29案。第29案是關於地震撤報。這邊其中有一個6年計畫,編了1億9千萬。但今年4月,我們有發生兩次超過7級的大地震。氣象署有發布兩次的國家級簡報。但是還是有6處它實際地震有超過4級。 |
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但是呢在氣象署的那個並沒有發布這個國家簡報也就是說我關心的是它的準確度我們花那麼多錢那就如果提升準確度我現在今年應該有漏發我了解大概就有4次吧是不是請氣象署這個地方也提出一個報告提凍結案凍結問題上年內提報告好謝謝 |
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好,謝謝林俊憲委員。好,那還有沒有提案委員要提問?好,林國成委員。好,我那個我提的是第14案。那個第14案的話我建議是署長這裡就小三一下啦,因為原則性立法委員當然支持是支持,就是小三一下,不要說通通送來啊,就照你們的意思這樣。 |
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還有另外我提那個15案還有15案那另外16案可以改為主決議啦可以改為主決議16案那另外就17案的部分我也建議不需要3然後要凍結10%那另外18案也是凍結10% |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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另外﹖ |
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其他的部分就28案可以改為組結議也就是不需要那個好以上這些跟各位報告好接下來魯明哲、張維 |
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好謝謝主席那在這個階段我有提三個案子33案37案跟42案33案這個部分我們希望針對這個計畫6年期的計畫再提詳盡的一個說明你們有初步的說明要設立很多的站各類型的站那這個的部分麻煩在凍結提供比較詳細的書面說明 |
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第二個第三十七案第三七案的部分最主要齁這個其實我們是從支持啊但是從預算的角度真的要幫你們調整一下齁你們現在就這個是我們地震海嘯海底監測系統建置這個東西我在相信沒有人不支持啊只不過從這個110年到117年8年的一個計畫那按照道理現在100明年應該是中間了嘛114年 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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好啦,我也想說這個問題喔第一個,你們在113年也編了4.50因為它是一個延續性的計畫總金額蠻大的所以你們就一直囤糧一直囤糧我沒有意見嘛可是你一直標不出去你的執行率一直掛在那邊也蠻難看的所以第一個,我們整個計畫當然支持第二個,但是在審預算的時候不是這樣就是我這閉著眼睛不管怎麼樣我就一直編編得好,標不出去反正也不用 |
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也不用想方設法怎麼樣去解決你們現在手上的經費早就足以你們去招標了但是三年多來一直標不出去那這個問題真的要講清楚所以我在這邊所謂的三檢是真的在幫你們調整預算完全不影響到你們計畫的一個執行手邊的一個已經足以發包了這個部分我不知道怎麼辦你們到底有什麼具體的解決方案 |
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最後一個是42案42案的部分42案的部分這也是屬於我們支持的部分最主要是金馬雷達相關的建置系統主要是針對前一期經濟氣象雷達及災防預警系統可能要更新那這個部分 |
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我們也支持,陳雪森委員也支持,但是一樣,你們類似的一個情況,在經費除了增加之外,理由是講之前執行的時候,因為疫情還有戰爭的一些問題,這個廠商都沒有辦法如期履約,所以我們在審預算的時候,你們是平鋪的直訊每年一直編一直編一直編, |
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那我們覺得真的要停下來想想到底要怎麼樣去真正幫你們要解決這個問題這是我提出這三個案子不管是凍結、刪除的理由以上說明好謝謝魯明哲召委好接下來請徐副委員 |
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謝謝主席本期提出第12案跟第13案12案是針對台灣南部的海域的地震及海嘯的一個監測系統這個計畫原本是110年到113年要執行總預算26億多但是這個招標未如預期 |
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第111年提出的一個修正計畫延長到115年但是這個在招標過程還是不順利那原本的規劃從800公里的一個長度縮減成200公里那六個策站變成三個策站那我們是擔心這樣子對於地震測量一個能量會大打折扣所以本市要求這個凍結氣象科技研究發展預算的預算一趴要求交通部 |
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中央氣象署針對這樣子的一個工程的一個招標情形予以檢討改進提出署名報告。十三案是針對我們農業線一個農業氣象站的一個設置的部分我想這個農業部已經宣布要在三年投入2.15億的預算 |
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但是這個部分我想所謂的在屏東縣的一個氣象站的密度不足那農民也沒辦法收集到相關的資訊可以來有效的掌握一個災害預防跟一個搶救的一個措施那我們要求氣象署應該針對這樣的一個氣象轉換的一個需求 |
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elcome to the next meeting. |
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謝謝徐副委員那還沒有委員要提問?沒有那本期這邊也有提四個案那我提的案是第21案、24案、34案、41案 |
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在四案就是署長有來溝通過我提的都是凍結案那署長都同意就是遵照辦理不過本席在這邊要再強調的一個部分就是有關那個農業氣象站的部分我跟民軍縣委還有徐副委員都是有一樣的一個看法那我們看到就是說目前我們氣象署也是預計要再新增這個農業的策站 |
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議員會議員會議 |
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第二就是, |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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elcome to the next session. |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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就是智慧海象的這個部分因為我們彰化縣的外海可以說是全國最好的一個風場所以有關離岸的風機數量是最多的那當然這個會影響到之後如果有海難事故的時候是不是對於是不是會衍生大風機碰損壞相關的一些 |
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就是這樣子的一個事故。所以我們也希望就是說,交通部中央氣象署對於這個智慧海象浮標觀測網如何跟各部會,尤其是航港局智慧航岸計畫能夠完善的一個借機,然後能夠對應應未來海象的一個就是事故的時候能夠及時的應變跟通報。而針對這個部分我們都希望你能夠提出這個書面報告。好,我們的部分以上。 |
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那還有沒有委員要提問的?沒有的話我們就請氣象署這邊做統一的說明。這個非常非常感謝各位委員的提案。的確是看到我們在整個業務發展面向裡面非常重要的這些點上面。 |
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當然很多的部分我先廣泛地回答氣象署本身的經費量能其實並不是很夠所以我們就採取跟很多很多的政府機關採取合作的方式譬如說像農業部的合作其實也不只是農包含農林漁牧 |
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第12、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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那接下來我稍微就是就這個題目的順序剛剛委員特別提到題目的順序的部分譬如說14題的部分是林國成委員所提到有關經費刪減的這個部分 |
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那也感謝林委員把這個空間開放給我們不過因為我們真的每一筆經費對我們都很重要所以是不是還是這個可以請林委員幫忙多考量我們這個象徵性的是不是三億百萬這樣然後我們會提詳細的說明就是在14案的部分那我們來進行調整 |
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好,那如果沒有其他委員要再提問,那我就來做處理了。好,那針對第一幕氣象科技研究發展。好,那李昆澤委員。 |
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向各位委員來做說明以及大家共同來討論有關於國家級警報它其實是源自於2011年福島大地震那我們看到福島大地震發生它的震波大概一分多鐘之後才傳到東京大家記憶猶新東京的迪士尼其實也受到很大的損害 |
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但是地震發生的同時東京就已經發出了國家級警報不只是國家級警報他們的電腦也會跳出來電視也會跳出來所以當時我在2012年就向交通部提出我們必須要建制國家級警報那當時的交通部長就是毛志國 |
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兩隻狗說沒有辦法去做因為我們沒有細胞廣播系統沒有細胞廣播系統就去做啊所以我們就要求來建置細胞廣播系統要建置細胞廣播系統也要做海底電纜海底電纜做什麼因為我們的地震有七幾以上有七成以上都是在東部的沿海所以我們必須啊 |
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要偵測相關的海底電纜、地震偵測以及海效的偵測相關的儀器那這個計畫叫做媽祖計畫媽祖啦因為媽祖是救平安保庇大家平安的啦所以啊這個媽祖計畫總共啊 |
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在當時做了三期一期、二期、三期從東北角開始在外海延伸延伸到經過恆春半島然後在坊山、屏東的坊山的中華電信所上岸這是一二三期那接下來我們在討論的是第四期第四期本來預計是要往南延伸800公里 |
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因為啊其實氣象署還有學者專家都知道啊7層7幾以上7層在東部的海域但是南部啊 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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那這個第四期的因為800公里後來因為經費啦後來因為疫情後來因為種種因素再縮減為200公里現在是剩200公里那這個經費啊如果在明年沒有辦法處理的話國安會也是會收回去嘛是不是這樣我記得是這樣署長在做說明 |
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所以這個國家的警報是非常重要因為從當初的地震的國家的警報後來又衍生出土石流、豪雨什麼相關的就是透過這個細胞廣播系統那這個建制經過10年來其實民眾漸漸的對國家的警報有信心 |
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當然有幾次的參數調整的問題或是產生盲報的問題,氣象署必須再快速而嚴謹的這樣來做一個修正。我們海上有海洋電纜的這個鋪設,在陸上也有井下觀測站。井下觀測站現在也在陸續的佈置當中,所以在 |
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近期中南部的幾次密集地震井下觀測站也都發揮它的功能東部花蓮的也一樣所以這個是非常重要的我認為你給台北城區辦把它預算都砍掉這個是對第四期來說因為這是最後的一塊拼圖 |
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最後的一塊拼圖。其實我們的海底電纜的數量、長度跟日本都差太多了啦,還是差很多啦。所以說我們這個國家體情報的建置也是國人所關注的。現在如果沒想到都說好像替國家遺忘一樣,但是這個 |
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國際警報現在也越來越精準了那其實這個氣象署還要繼續的努力這個機會我請大家不要刪除拜託謝謝好謝謝李坤哲委員好那何欣淳委員好謝謝那本席是有提案第25案那就如同剛剛李坤哲委員所提到 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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adequate to the |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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bicy、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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adequate to the current situation. |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算 |
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好,謝謝主席。我想針對這個,剛剛其實我也說過啦,針對37案、42案,這個案子我們對於項目都是非常非常的支持啦。只是這個,因為你們跑不出去啊,因為就預算的審查的角度就是說,你們手上有很多的錢,你們現在用不掉,怎麼辦? |
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那這個署長還是你們財主單位就第37案37案就是南部海域的地震海嘯我們都支持你們現在從110年到現在我們在審明年的預算嘛已經有3年預算現在累積多少講個數字去年編4.5億嘛沒有人刪 |
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目前已經八億多嘛第一個已經八億多在你們手上第二個是標不出去的問題標不出去就簡單來講說今年114年預算給你們搞不好還是標不出去沒給你們你們還是可以標所以我們只是在凸顯到底遇到了能不能解決的問題 |
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因為要持續啊今年不講明年又來可能五一啊六一我們都會我覺得我們都會支持這個項目絕對支持但是你標不出去要怎麼去做第二個八年的計畫為什麼會定八年這是你們的專業我們相信那通常這種延續性的計畫都配合建制付款需要這麼多的時間事實上現在完全不影響到因為你們發包已經delay三年了啦你們後面怎麼付款慢慢稅延啦 |
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那我這個部分齁我收回我的刪除啦齁但我們希望透過凍結的這個部分真的要講清楚包括你們有沒有信心你們策略是什麼不然我們所有的委員明年再來審議五年你們還是沒報出去然後再編集這個對於委員也不公平啊好像我們審預算都搞不清楚好不好至少我想這個報告一定要跟我們講清楚齁以上說明 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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mentioned the earthquake in Hainan. |
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Indeed, there are a lot of obstacles. |
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On the one hand, there are very few companies in the world capable of carrying out this case. |
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On the other hand, there are some COVID-related things that have been passed on before. |
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We also have some domestic-related agencies cooperating. |
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的確這個案子中間有非常非常多的事情會需要考慮我想這個部分我們找機會好好來跟委員做報告也特別感謝委員這個不做我們這預算刪減讓給我們一個機會跟委員好好做一個報告感謝 |
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我非常同意魯明哲委員的這個說法我也同意李坤哲委員說我們氣象署其實都是一群專業又高業的人這個我也接受但是說實在話這個經歷三個總統 |
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我在交通委員會我當委員的時候是馬總統再來經歷蔡總統8年我在當副院長我也還在關心這個案子現在已經換到那個賴總統了 |
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我同意魯明哲委員的講法哪一部分呢?很簡單我很擔心明年我們大家坐在這裡還是在討論其實沒有人想刪啦我講實在話因為這個經歷三個總統這個對台灣很重要的一件事情但是呢我們很擔心的是明年我們坐在這裡還是要聽署長來做一個決議專案報告不刪然後要怎麼解決啦 |
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所以我今天不是要請署長說今天在這個會議,因為大家都同意了嘛,就同意不刪,然後請你們再詳細說明,無論是專案或書面我都沒意見。但是這個我還是覺得齁,真的不要再,因為今天喔越累積越多啦,每年大家都在這裡很為難,都希望把它做好,你們也希望做好,立法院也希望做好。 |
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但是就是沒有一個人知道怎麼把它做好。這個我們在監督上面失職啦。所以我們都很覺得署裡面大家都很用心也很用功,大家都很好。 |
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但是很好不能解決問題嘛所以還是要拜託署長今年把你這個沒有問題不要刪啦你要報告也行我都沒意見但是一定要在每年交通委員會再坐在這裡的時候不要再是相同的問題 |
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謝謝,那經過委員還有署長的充分的說明那我們現在就來做一個處理那在這邊先 |
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就是說明這個有改組決議的案子就第16案、28案跟31案就是改組決議案那剛剛我們魯昭偉37到40案以及42案同意改動結案那就是林國成委員的第14到15案 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。我們就做成決議就是氣象科技研究發展這部分我們就剩減一百萬元然後凍結百分之十提專案報告提專案報告後使得凍結 |
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議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
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就做成決議啦我們剛剛已經宣告了啦好不好那個林委員我們就是檢列100萬元然後凍結10%提專案報告後使得動之科目自行調整那第162831改組決議謝謝 |
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好,那我們接下來處理第44到46案第二幕一般行政的部分好,那這邊這個預算數是8億4251萬8千元那我們請提案委員有沒有要提問的部分林國成委員 |
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謝謝主席我想這個我45案的部分當然我也沒有說要刪這個可能要動一下因為這個金額也是8億多所以這個部分我比較建議的就是說能夠動到20% |
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那48案這個部分也請署長說明一下48案我們等一下再處理謝謝還沒有48案是吧好到46案好44到46那我們體安委員還有廖新祥委員有沒有要提問的 |
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就是同仁上班時數的問題、輪班時數的問題希望說我們氣象署好好應該說提供比較友善友善職場的環境不要一直要人家加班人家也不一定說真的想要拿那一點錢這樣子營造好的工作環境比較重要 |
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好,那因為這44到46案都是提凍結案那如果沒有其他委員要提問我們就來做處理那第二幕一般行政剛剛民國省委員是要動20%那我們決議就動20%然後提書面報告後時的動之好,謝謝那我們現在處理第47到50案 |
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氣象測報部分預算數是兩億四千八百九十萬五千元好那我們請提案委員魯明哲召委好謝謝主席我的提案第49案啦49案首先啦因為我看到馬祖兩個字啦我就3減8先把它測掉好了這個不然心生畏懼啦齁那那個但是我們真的是想要了解啦齁也希望 |
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議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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那按道理是省錢可是我只是提醒一下你在估算一個預算的時候你們每一次也是拍著胸脯講委員這個很重要請你預算三億百萬都很痛苦結果你們現在自己等於置三七千萬啦你們置體三啦因為等於沒有邊啦齁那我們希望因為這將近26%就當在預估這個計畫的時候怎麼會多26%這個我是在這裡齁 |
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希望你們提供書面報告如何再精進當時這個到底規劃的怎麼差距差到7000多萬你們給我們理由是說因為因為去布布布什麼由由由大學吼哦浮標的部分由大學來協助哇就差7000多萬吶 |
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這個好像說不通,所以我不刪,凍結書面報告,講清楚未來如何精進你們預算的一個規劃,好不好。好,謝謝委員。好,那許志賢委員剛舉手,那許志賢之後再林國成委員,謝謝。 |
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謝謝主席那個氣象署之前我在質詢的時候有說那個我們有跟那個國立海洋科技博物館合作的備忘錄然後那個時候氣象署又答應我說跟我們高雄科工館那邊也有個合作的機會那現在他們都在等他們有跟我們聯絡但是到現在為止好像沒有等到下午 |
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現在這個狀況是不是可以說明一下?好 那麼林國成委員本席是提48案那這個問題是大家都存在的問題也就是當然極端氣候這個我們也會諒解但是這個準確度的問題當然還是再度要提醒我們署長 |
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另外一個就是特別不要讓卓院長每一次提的要精進要精進所以我對預算沒有意見但是為了督促大家所以我還是提議要凍結10%以示其他的話我還是要請署長 |
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adequate to the local governor whether he is on leave. |
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所以我還是要建議署長在這個部分。我對預算沒有意見,但是我還是希望凍結百分之十。好,那我們請氣象署陳署長說明。 |
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謝謝委員的提案我想先就最後這個提案就是有關山陀而颱風特別是在這邊提到這個相關的這個訊息的發布的確這個是我們在山陀而颱風已經 |
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已經警報解除之後可是在北部地區造成相當大的大雨那我們不是用颱風警報的形式在提供是包含了我們的這個PWS還有我們的即時訊息來提供那這個部分的確是在跟地方政府中間在訊息溝通的部分我想這個部分我們要去應該要去加強所以這個部分我們會來努力來做這件事情並且來提出相關的說明 |
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剛剛特別感謝許思杰委員提到有關在南部地區的相關合作在這個部分我們跟客工館有好幾個議題除了地震的部分之外還有氣候變遷還有莫拉克的部分其實都已經在進行 |
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bicyclone管的專長那請他協助我們在我們的這個南南區氣象中心就是在台南的部分會加強我們的展館並且我們跟這個不僅是科文館還有我們的這個國海院 |
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namon 您繼續審委員要再發言。 |
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感謝主席本期題第48案48案是氣象側報尤其是那種颱風預測現在颱風來的時候當然一定是民眾最關心所有的媒體都在報導颱風 |
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bicyn最充分的資訊的來源一定是我們氣象署那氣象署也花了那麼多錢你看每一年都一千萬幾百萬在做我們那個氣象播報預測那個平台啦氣象預報那個平台但是你看現在最近幾年最近那個民間天氣預報平台也增加了 |
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大家都會看民間的喔你比那個按讚數啦你比那個分享數我就隨便舉個例子啦像那個康樂颱風登陸前一天氣象署那個貼文喔不到兩千個讚一百八十幾個分享 |
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兩、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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elcome to the stage, Mr. Chairman. |
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主席你懂不懂我的意思。委員長下次如果颱風來,我建議主席你去看民間那個台灣颱風論壇,你不要看你們自己的。你自己會很難看的。懂我的意思嗎?我了解,是,感謝委員。 |
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好,謝謝,那相信各位委員的意見都希望我們氣象署這邊都能夠更精進。那我們經過委員充分的一個推詢之後,那署長也做了一個說明,那我們就來做處理。那有關第三幕氣象策報的部分,魯明哲召委同意改凍結案,那因為提案委員都是凍結案,那我們在這邊做成決議,就是凍結10%,然後提書面報告後,使得凍之。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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我們是希望說氣象署在做這個工程的時候就特別的注意啦因為我們現在工程齁其實你說大標小標齁大家都最低標啦就有低標這個都要注意齁所以其實我們就看前兩年的狀況現在大幅增加那為什麼要增加這麼多錢是不是可以跟大家簡單報告一下 |
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感謝委員的這個推詢這個部分就是在明年特別大幅增加是因為我們在在這個我們的署本部的老舊變壓器已經超過20年了那因為它非常老所以它是一個以現在角度來看它不是一個用電很有效率的這個設備所以我們要去把它換掉所以因為這個變壓器是很大的我們主要的變壓器所以這個部分過去就一直 |
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的確一直沒有很努力的來把它換掉因為它經費相當大所以在這個部分我們也特別感謝這個部裡的幫忙我們其實有跟這個部裡做了很多討論所以在這個部分特別感謝我們交通部在今年明年也有給我們這個經費主要的部分還是在置換我們署裡面的大型的變壓器高壓的變壓器因為我們有高速電腦所以需要用一個比較大的高速的變壓高壓變壓器 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,這是有必要的。那這邊氣象署的意見是遵照辦理。那我們第51案第四目一般建築及設備我們做成決議就是凍結500萬元。好,那接下來我們來處理提書面報告後使得動之。好,謝謝。那接下來我們來處理第52到72案的決議案。 |
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好,那我們第52案,氣象署的意見。好,遵照辦理。好,然後第52案,照案通過。第53案。也是遵照辦理。好,照案通過。第54案。也是遵照辦理。好,照案通過。55案。遵照辦理。好,那照案通過。第56案。遵照辦理。好,那照案通過。第57案。57案也是遵照辦理。 |
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五十七案照案通過第五十八案。五十八案也是遵照辦理。照案通過第五十九案。五十九案也是遵照辦理。那照案通過第六十案。第六十案也遵照辦理。照案通過第六十一案。六十一案也是遵照辦理。照案通過第六十二案。六十二案遵照辦理。照案通過第六十三案。 |
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5876.894 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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同意。好,那第64案改為書面報告。那我們照修正後通過。第65案。65案遵照辦理。好,照案通過。第66案。66案遵照辦理。好,照案通過。第67案。67案遵照辦理。好,照案通過。第68案。遵照辦理。好,照案通過。第69案。69案遵照辦理。好,照案通過。第70案。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,第三,繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,第三,繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,第三,繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,第三,繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,第三,繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,第三, |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部中央氣象署單位預算案關於交通部中央氣象署單位預算案關於交通部中央氣象署單位預算案 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。况且二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。况且二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。閱讀委員會議 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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我們現在要繼續開會了我們接下來處理航港局114年度單位預算我們現在處理第一案稅入營業營餘及事業收入我們請提案委員林國成委員我們要提問 |
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好,我這個是第一案本來我是要簡略可是經過他們說明稅入稅入要簡略稅入的部分這個可以改為主決議算了改為主決議好不好好,那我們第一案稅入營業以及事業收入我們決議就是改主決議好,謝謝謝謝委員 |
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接下來處理第二跟第三案稅出第一幕一般行政基本行政工作維持業務費大陸地區旅費預算數是355,000元請提案委員魯明哲、張維及邱樂豪給他提問魯明哲、張維 |
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具體解決方案以加速審核流動的政策。好的謝謝主席我的提案是第二案啦主要針對於業務費大陸地區的旅費啦因為我們最主要還是從預算角度來看如果有用我們就留著沒有用甚至狀況沒有改變那我們就幫你們去做一個清除啦那我們看到112年跟113年的預算那你們連續兩年呢 |
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elcome to the next meeting of the board of directors of the Board of Directors. |
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113年也確實有會議兩岸海運小組的會議但是因為你們都沒有去沒有去後面付諸的原因勒很重要沒有去的原因如果現在消滅了這個預算要給你們過你們付諸的原因寫得很清楚了兩年復路計劃因 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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因為你們的理由是政治因素嘛不是什麼船運海運啊你們沒有超過說海運歸海運航運歸航運對不對政治來掛帥一切的話我直接跟你說這個預算不用編現在政治氛圍我們比你在更前沿看到是沒有就如果以政治因素就沒有機會去了齁所以我這邊齁是建議全部住3.35萬5千元以上說明 |
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大陸旅費的出口預算有兩大部分第一個是有關 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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那隨著這個旅客人次的增加事實上雙方需要這個航班會議來進行溝通那剛剛委員提到的確沒有錯最近的這一兩年我們的確沒有副路來招會但是呢 |
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事實上陸方近期有來到金門我們來就這個小森航班的相關的事務進行溝通那過去的往例是這樣子陸方來一次然後我方會再下次就換我方赴陸來進行討論 |
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所以因為這個旅客量持續的增加都有相關的事務可能需要溝通所以第一個可能還是會有這個需求那第二點要特別跟委員報告這個旅費裡面有一個部分是這個涉及我們海難救助的這個國際衛星收入組織要在明年要在香港來舉行 |
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這個年會對我們取得海事安全的資訊非常的重要這個編列5萬多元的經費這個部分是跟委員還有召委建議小山東的這個部分我想我們可以 |
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我跟同僚討論我們進一步來遵截這個能力出席的能力是不是能夠縮減10萬元那提出凍結10%然後提出運報告時的凍資那有關這個衛星搜救組織的部分這個今天能夠流出編列因為這個對我們海岸的資訊的掌握非常重要以上報告 |
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好,謝謝。我不曉得執行委員有沒有意見。來,謝謝主席。國中委員問我為什麼刪那麼少,因為總預算才有35萬,好不好。我盡力了,已經全刪了。那這樣好,因為你們在這邊做一個,因為你們去年跟前年,包括今年,今年跟去年的一個說明,都是因為政治因素。 |
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那政治因素是不是有什麼公文誰不讓你去那我也我也不想詳細去問了齁因為這不是在我們航港局的主要的要問的那這樣的好不好因為我知道講真的你都不去我們邊那邊沒有意義嘛委員在那邊審什麼好像好像那個閉著眼睛在那邊審也不好那這樣好不好那我們就是不是遵照邱惠華委員提的就是3減14萬1000啦14萬1000這個部分啦那凍結10% |
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預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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接下來我們處理第四到二十七案第二幕航港業務管理及發展預算數是七億零八百五十六萬兩千元好那我們請相關的提案委員是不是有要提問的好林國成委員 |
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本席提的是11案那看了預算以後這個補助的部分應該是台東縣用的最多了那經過解釋以後我們也知道這個補助款項當然也是對航港業務的這些 |
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對民間鼓勵的一種作用。所以本席也希望動個百分之十。其他的部分沒有意見。另外第15案的部分因為我本來主張要刪兩億但是我現在改變心意就由局長 |
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就是要刪,刪多少你自己講,那其他的部分也可以不動,可以不動,就是小刪一下啦,以示說對於這件事情的重視,以上這兩個案說明。 |
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好 謝謝接下來請何欣淳委員好 謝謝主席本席是提案第9案那我是關心的是臺中港曾經有一艘香港籍的貨船停靠那這個香港籍的貨船曾經參與過這個中國解放軍的特種部隊的演習那這個委員會上的質詢內容曾經提到這有 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。這一個整個必須請我們的航港局應該主動的去盤點我們台灣各港口針對未來如果有再次發生類似的個案的話我們應該建立一個跨部會合作的一個SOP希望能夠及時知道第一個及時知道有知道才能夠預防 |
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獲得準確的預防,而且是進階版的基於國家安全層級的一個預防或者是檢查才能夠真正的守護台灣的一個海防的安全跟國家的安全。所以我只是提 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國安、海巡、警政等等跟我們航港局等等要建立一個聯防通報機制。所以這樣子的作業流程我希望航港局能夠盡速。那我這個提案可以改為主決議。好不好?謝謝。好,謝謝何信淳委員。接下來邀請林佩祥委員,那之後再請許富奎委員,謝謝。 |
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謝謝昭偉。我主要提的是13案跟27案。13案主要是因為說我們看到這邊有8個補助,8項補助費裡面,其中第5項本來講是課業碼頭營運安全的改善措施。可是在今年在這個在後來在編列的時候就變成補助縣政府辦理交通碼頭設計規劃。 |
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我覺得說你有更改項目的名稱但是沒有進到具體的說明所以我在這邊後來也跟航港局溝通過了我願意改成說凍結10%但是需要順便報告之後解凍 |
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另外一個是有關27案。27案的話這邊有講說基本上是針對說設備跟設備的更替。設備的更替基本上是常態但是我們也知道這最近一直在講所謂的AI計畫2.0而在航港界其實AI計畫2.0AI的科技的極限目前已經可以實質上幫助我們節省成本而且是可以更快的加速效率 |
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像是我知道好像有一個軟體可以直接把船跟船東直接拿來做比對不需要人去做這方面實質上的審查所以這方面來講我會希望說我們在設備在更替的時候可以把AI科技帶進去那因為我跟航港局也有溝通過所以我這邊願意改動機40%改完動機10%但是也是需要書面報告後才可以放寫以上 |
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好,謝謝林培祥委員。接下來邀請徐副魁委員。謝謝主席。我想我提出第六案跟第七案。那第六案是因為我們最近五年遠洋漁船的船隻事故,一年大概有一百多件。那其中是船隻故障比例最高,其次是我們的船員傷病。那我們為了有效降低這個相關傷病情形,然後給予我們船員 |
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最妥適的照顧我們也要求航港局應該積極協調船員慢性處方簽了一個用藥的限制規定並建立一個船舶人員的一個分針排解的機制那有效改善一個登船的職安的檢查這個機制那我們提案針對船舶業務管理及發展預算我們要求凍結五千萬並請航港局提出書面報告時的動之 |
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第七案是有介於今年幾個颱風造成有很多艘的船舶在我們臺灣延安擱淺,尤其我們屏東縣就有三艘。其中有一艘,我想本期在委員會也一直在質詢有關於這一艘在屏東的巴西亞輪的一個移儲作業,但是遺憾的是我們航港局在處理的速度上面比較慢。 |
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最近還發生了一個火災的事故那我想會造成一個百姓的疑慮安全的疑慮那我們也要求航港局應該檢討這樣的一個加速移除的一個程序之外也應該針對天災來臨時的一個船隻預警應該要怎麼樣來通盤檢討提出一個因應的方案所以我要求提案凍結一樣是船舶業務管理及發展預算五千萬那請我們的航港局提出書面報告值得動之好謝謝 |
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中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二十二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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因為現在我們相關的一些規定我們發覺目前的飲水人55歲以上的有39人39人大概最近10如果這個有些制度你沒有去做調整的話那可能陸續退休年齡會人飲水人會越來越少 |
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第二十二案最主要是針對於 |
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水電費的一個增加啦齁那水面增加後面我看了一下其實沒有這麼多那這個部分我改成主決議啊希望你們來多用節能省碳的一個方式來減少電費那最後一個是24案第24案 |
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elcome to the stage |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。adequacy Act 規定公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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是我的意思說是可有可無是不是就你們態度就12有編那13沒編那明年是兩年編一次嗎還是怎麼回事喔所以我是覺得這個的部分我覺得是有必要做說明啦那我想這個部分我想整體透過凍結你們來給予我們詳細的說明上報告 |
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好,謝謝魯明哲召委。接下來邀請林俊憲委員。謝謝主席。各位同仁。問題第4案關於我們航港業務管理和發展。我們關心一下那個郵輪。台灣這兩年郵輪成長非常大。可以說是噴發式的。明年預估會比今年大概成長快50%啦。 |
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但是呢,今年預估來台灣的郵輪只有安平港和台中港掛零。那今年的基隆港就將近200個班次,高雄有31個班次。那明年更可怕了,明年基隆港可以到522個班次,高雄港大概58。 |
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但原本明年掛鈴的,台中有兩艘啦,剩下台南安平在掛鈴。這個為什麼會,是不是有辦法來協助一下啦?航港局應該要會同觀光署,或者是我們地方政府,台南市政府或港務公司來研議啊。因為你去安平港你有投資蓋一個郵輪碼頭嘛,對嗎?你騎騎的,還沒搬到哪裡來? |
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接下來邀請許智傑委員 |
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謝謝主席。每一個地方都在穿郵輪。我個人有建議,本來在香港、高雄、雙武港,現在已經沒有了。因為香港是一個危險的地方。但是我現在覺得新加坡、高雄、雙武港不錯了。 |
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所以拜託航港局跟港澳公司今天不來,港澳公司跟港澳公司可以審核部分請次長跟我們再多要求一下那另外我先提一下那個33案等一下就遵照主席的決議啦遵照大家的意見那我提一下就是那個遊艇遊艇現在在高雄有很多那全國現在從200艘變成1500艘 |
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然後有那個證照的從四千八五千變成兩萬多兩萬一所以這個都已經倍增了三萬了所以希望說我們的遊艇碼頭可以停泊的部分那高雄有什麼計畫希望說那個港務那個航港局可以跟我報告一下看這個後續的規劃怎麼樣好謝謝好那陽明基縣委員 |
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謝主席,飛機提第16案跟選舉委員關心的差不多。第一個,我們的遊艇的牌照這幾年增加非常快速。200艘到1522艘,成長6倍半。那執照啦,有遊艇駕照的由4800張到破3萬張,成長5倍。遊艇的數目多6.5倍。 |
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兩、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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國外的話,像這種遊艇公路航線應該是非常普遍、非常多。我不知道航港局的考量是什麼。否則的話應該要予以多元彈性,是不是應該要提出修改相關的規定。所以本期第16有提三件,並且凍結十分之一。好,謝謝。 |
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好 謝謝那本席也提第19案是針對航港業務管理及發展向下航港業務管理計畫的這個編列的預算那其中有包含辦理海難災害的演習這個部分所以本席在這邊是提凍結預算10%那要求交通部航港局就是要針對海上緊急救難救災的部分如何協助公司部門強化離岸救援的機制這個部分然後 |
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於三個月內向交通委員會提出書面報告後時的動之。好,那以上所有委員提問的問題,我們現在請葉局長做一個詳細的說明,謝謝。好,謝謝召委跟各位委員的提案提醒。 |
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那我想就很快的這個逐一回應報告一下那第一個是林國成委員所提的第11案以及第15案的部分那第11案是我們補助台東地區五艘高齡的超過25年的民船的這個汰換 |
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那今年的執行率的確有點落後那目前這個經過我們的督促之後進度已經有所改善那預計明年的3、4、9月分別會有三艘的這個新船會回到臺東這邊來提供服務那我們會順道委員的意思會提出這個署名報告 |
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第二個部分是第15案。第15案是剛剛9位委員都關心了飲水人的這個訓練還有這個能源的這個補充還有相關那個制度的一個精進。那這個部分我想部裡面跟運動會也都非常的關心。那我們近期呢第一個我們已經修正通過部裡面已經支持我們修正通過的飲水人管理規則。 |
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所以加強這個專業的一個訓練還有這個相關的這個督導考核那針對人員補充的部分我們目前兩年都會定期舉辦這個考試那針對這個這個需求比較大的高雄港台中港的這個考試的人數呢目前也都有持續的增加 |
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disciplinary三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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我們編列的這個交通船碼頭改善的這個科目的修正的部分那特別跟委員報告這個部分我們科目是的確是有調整那內容是延續過去這個我們以前的這個中部辦公室要協助我們四個離島縣市政府的交通船碼頭的這個例行性的維護修繕那這個部分我們會提出詳細的說明跟委員報告 |
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那林委員另外還有關心第27案AI的部分那特別公務員報告我剛剛提醒的的確沒有錯AI的部分我們目前已經有一個專案的計畫叫智慧減障的系統的建置那公務員報告我們現在應用在傳播的減障我們會利用AI的影像辨識的功能 |
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來判斷這一艘船舶是不是原來就是應該要受檢的船舶所以這個部分我們也會跟委員提出詳細的一個報告那謝謝委員的一個提醒那再來是徐富奎委員第6案跟第7案的部分那第6案第6案是這個針對漁船員的這個用藥部分那漁船員跟商船員的用藥要特別跟徐委員報告 |
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我們這邊有跟衛福部、健保署這邊有來溝通那現在針對遠洋的漁船船員的處方船的用藥在今年的8月1號已經開始放寬實施所以遠洋不管是上船員或漁船員都可以申請大於90天的一個藥量所以這個部分跟委員會已經有所溝通也已經放寬了相關的規定 |
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另外巴西亞的這個部分謝謝委員的提醒我想有關公安的部分我們已經嚴格要求這個廠商絕對要注意絕對不可以再有這個類似的情勢的發生目前的進度跟我們報預計在1月底 |
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或正半二月中旬會將發洩用扶揚的方式來脫離這個現場另外預警的部分我們現在已經有實施這個海警海警前司發布12海里的淨空的這個措施避免12海里有這個滯留傳播發生過潛情勢的一個發生 |
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再來是魯明哲委員這邊關心的第一個是感謝委員水電費讓我們改成主決議我們會遵照委員的指示我們會節能用電再來是這個 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於航港局單位預算案關於航港局單位預算案關於航港局單位預算案關於航港局單位預算 |
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那我們依據我們的統計整個使用的人數大概將近有3500人那我們112年訓練將近有2000人所以明年度我們預計要辦理40場次大概有1600人會來受訓所以當我們112年辦理的時候 |
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應該是說受到熱烈的一個參與,這個參與人數達到99%,所以我想有一定的一個成效,詳細的成效的內容還有未來有怎麼樣再進一步精心的這個做法,我們會跟委員提出詳細的一個書面報告。 |
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再來是林俊憲委員關於第4案安平港郵輪的發展首先跟你們報告 |
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的確是疫情後臺灣的郵輪的復甦非常快速那我想安平港是非常具有潛力的一個發展郵輪的港口那這邊我們未來會同港務公司跟這個公安署未來有大概兩大方向來努力第一個是港務公司這邊會提供這個郵輪的這個具體的優惠措施第一個是首航跟一層多港的郵輪是並不會全免 |
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第二個呢,針對靠博覽平港的這個遊輪,旅客服務費全免。透過具體的優惠措施來吸引這個遊輪。第二個是加強國際的這個行銷。那現在每一年我們跟港澳公司還有觀光署都會參加這個全球最大的邁阿密的遊輪展。每年都四月在辦理。那這個部分我想我會跟港澳公司王總經理這邊,我們會合作。 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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那16案是委員關心到那個存補法遊艇的這個放寬的部分的確現在的現行的遊艇存補法的這個規定非自用遊艇目前只限於這個聚熱部或包船的方式來進行 |
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那針對觀光遊程的部分,我們現在已經啟動了這個傳播法的修正草案的這個提報。那在今年的6月份已經報布了,我們未來會修正為一夜用遊艇,會把相關的限制把它放寬,讓它更有彈性。那部裡面這邊也很協助,總共開了5次的工作會議,那目前條文的意見已經 |
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逐漸的收斂。我們預計明年上半年會持續來進行報核的審議程序。我們希望盡快讓它來放寬。 |
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再來是何信聖委員關切的有關國安的議題首先感謝委員同意這個法案改成主決議我這邊具體的跟委員報告在這個案子發生之後我們在12月9號立即會商國安單位我們具體進行了兩個幾個重要的措施第一個改變就是我們的程序未來只要是直航的傳播 |
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一定要先會商過國安單位他們檢視過沒有沒有這個存募沒有問題才可以核發許可這是第一個第二個呢我們把過去兩年的已經核發許可的存募資料提供給國安單位來進行檢視 |
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再做一個完整的清查避免過去有核准過的還是有疑慮第三個就是委員這邊還是有在期許我們針對SOP的部分未來橫向的聯繫因為現在登船的檢查主要是海巡跟公務署這邊 |
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那未來針對有國安疑慮的傳播我們怎麼樣能夠更及時有效的預警跟檢查這個部分我想我們會遵照委員的提示我們會再來邀請相關的單位進一步來做精進那也特別跟委員報告我們現在在每年的演練 |
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海難或是相關的演練的部分事實上已經把這個國安的這個議題都情境都已經納進來這部分我們會非常的重視那謝謝委員的一個提醒再來還是再來是我們召委第19案的一個提醒 |
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那這個部分就是召委非常關心我們彰化鋪場的這個離岸的緊急應變的部分那跟召委報告就是說這部分院裡面也是非常關切那所以我們在今年的上半年呢已經跟能源署還有相關的單位呢已經召開會議而且訂定了SOP |
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8098.601 |
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那目前主要的一個共識就是說在風場內的部分就能源署還有風窗這邊來透過聯防機制來以自救的原則那航港局這邊來協助那從風場外如果有故障存活漂流進來的話就由航港局啟動海難的應變機制來處理所以跟詹委報告我們目前已經有一個SOP那每年我們還是會進行這個海難的演練 |
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好,那謝謝我們葉局長這邊非常詳細充分的一個說明那聽過剛剛就是委員們的提問跟充分的討論也可以看得出來我們葉局長應該會前都有做充分的一個溝通那我們現在就來做一個處理 |
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8117.043 |
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關於航港業務管理及發展預算案關於航港業務管理及發展預算案關於航港業務管理及發展預算案關於航港業務管理及發展預算案關於航港業務管理及發展預算案 |
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我們接下來就來處理第三幕,第28到34案,第三幕偏遠地區交通建設的預算提案。那我們請提案委員徐副委員有沒有要做一個提案的說明。徐副委員還是要直接請業局長說明。徐委員你的提案第三幕的部分。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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8190.557 |
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8199.505 |
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兩萬九千多張,成長幅度也有高達五倍但是目前我們針對遊艇破區的整體發展計畫的實現數只有64%尤其部分的區域因為船舶空間有限造成漁船跟遊艇爭搶席位造成一個紛爭我們這邊也要求我們航港局應該積極輔導地方政府能夠規劃一個遊艇的一個破區以利我們觀光遊區的一個發展 |
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8218.14 |
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8237.222 |
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所以我要求凍結這個偏遠地區交通建設的預算書1億元希望航港局能夠提出一個具體的作為。第29案針對我們臺灣四面航海適合發展海洋觀光尤其針對這個傳播法裡面對於遊艇規範的不合時宜那我們也要求 |
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韓港局應該針對這個傳播法對於非自用遊艇的思維不應該只具現在所謂的一個俱樂部的一個形態能夠所謂一個針對一個觀光發展跟便民的一個措施裡面能夠一個提供更便捷的一個修法的一個策略那以立我國發展海洋觀光所以我要求凍結偏遠地區交通建設的預算數2000萬那請韓港局能夠提出書面報告使得動之以上說明謝謝 |
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好,謝謝許副委員。那還有提案委員要提問嗎?好,我們請林國成委員。好,那本期是提第30案,因為這個是補助地方的。請局長說明一下,高雄難得最多,說明一下。那然後三檢的部分我取消,三檢的部分取消,可以用凍結的方式來處理,進行主席去做裁定。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部航港局單位預算 |
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8310.478 |
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8312.28 |
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中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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好 謝謝召委跟各位委員的提案那第一個跟我們徐副委員報告那第一個是有關這個遊艇的蓬勃發展我們要來協助地方政府的部分那這個部分我們也觀察到的確近幾年的這個遊艇不管是參與的人數跟登記的這個少數都成倍數的成長所以整個博位的需求是非常的大所以我們在 |
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8358.271 |
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8379.897 |
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先前幾年就跟行政院爭取合併的遊艇泊區整體發展計畫這邊跟委員報告我已經關心了執行率的部分先前在今年的執行上的確地方政府的採購跟發包上稍微有點落後但是在11月已經趕上來11月已經93.17執行率到年底運輸會可以執行100% |
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8384.218 |
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那這部分我們會持續來協助地方政府來建置博位那特別跟各位報告在屏東的部分都是海口的漁港我們會已經有納入計畫要來做推動那29案 |
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8401.067 |
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8405.19 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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8423.763 |
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所以這部分我們已經提出了草案剛剛已經報告近期呢我想我們會依照部裡的審查意見盡快的修正報部那謝謝委員的這個提案那再來是林國成委員這邊有關心到我們遊艇博區的這個分配的部分那各位會員報告我們這邊事實上是 |
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8466.592 |
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全國各地方政府都可以來申請但是因為遊艇博位他的設置涉及到這個海氣象還有他的這個設置的一個條件那所以我們不僅是高雄有設置之外呢事實上針對離島地區包括澎湖還有金門的山港 |
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8467.572 |
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事實上都有設置那高雄跟屏東台南水域因為整個海氣像他在冬天事實上是相對是適合遊艇的活動所以經過整個專家的一個評估跟規劃之後是可以來做設置的所以在經費的分配上可能高雄這邊有相對是高一點不過我想這都是經過專業的一個評估 |
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8496.623 |
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8523.942 |
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最後是我們昭緯這邊所關心到的第三次案交通船碼頭部分這一部分我想我們會遵照昭緯的提醒會來有一個整體的規劃事實上全國提供海運客運服務的碼頭有55處這部分我們會遵照昭緯這邊提醒比照國際跟國內三港有一個整體規劃這樣的一個盤點 |
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8526.244 |
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adequate to the results of the overall plan to promote the construction, so that the use of this funding can fully play its role. |
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8536.289 |
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8545.514 |
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As for the processing of the whole case, it is pointed out by the committee. |
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8548.156 |
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8574.737 |
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謝謝葉局長的一個詳細的一個說明那針對第三幕偏遠地區交通建設若沒有其他委員有要再提問那我們就來做一個處理那針對這一幕的一個預算提案都是凍結案那就是料園的是3.5百萬元那如果同意的話我們是不是就做成凍結兩千萬元然後提書面報告後 |
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8575.297 |
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8579.62 |
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同時繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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8621.109 |
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第四目一般建築及設備因為這預算數也不多那我們就凍結10%提書面報告後使得凍支我們再重複一次第四目一般建築及設備交通及運輸設備凍結10%提書面報告後使得凍支我們接下來處理決議案 |
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8631.182 |
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第三十六案,遵照辦理。第三十七案,遵照辦理。第三十八案,遵照辦理。第三十九案,遵照辦理。第四十案,遵照辦理。第四十一案,遵照辦理。第四十二案,遵照辦理。第四十三案,遵照辦理。請問邱委員同意嗎? |
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8667.345 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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文字修正專案改書面。好,那第46案我們在文字修正後通過。第47案正在辦理。好,交案通過。第48案正在辦理。交案通過。第49案正在辦理。交案通過。 |
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8705.745 |
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好,那有關交通部航港局114年度單位預算提案我們處理完畢我們接下來處理工程會公共工程委員會的預算提案那我們現在休息五分鐘做換場 |
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中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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主委我們那個修款會儘快,另外那個安平港的郵輪我們跟黨公司會交價。對阿我有提阿,我理解議員阿。現在會先把它組都不懂阿。 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、 |
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度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 bicyC.C. |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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我們繼續開會我們接下來處理行政院公共工程委員會114年度單位預算我們先介紹列席的官員 |
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首先我們介紹行政院公共工程委員會主任委員陳金德。謝謝。我們副主任委員陳維祥。謝謝。副主任委員李怡德。謝謝。主任秘書羅天健。 |
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9026.017 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
法國委員會執行秘書陳韻時資訊推動小組執行秘書沈恆光中央採購集合小組執行秘書林耀幹人事室主任李聰松 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
9060.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
9085.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
主計事主任孫惠行政院主計總處公務預算處檢任視察李培源我們現在就開始處理我們的預算提案我們首先處理第一到第五案有關稅出通案業務費為辦費的部分總共有五案我們現在請提問委員有沒有要提問的部分 |
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9110.298 |
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如果沒有,好,我們李明哲召委,謝謝好,謝謝主席在我提的第一案是3減500萬,凍結10%提書面報告,因為這邊寫專案報告可以調整為書面報告那最主要的原因是因為我們看到114年的預算比前一年多了1000多萬那帳幅高達67%,因為這個部分算是明顯的一個帳幅 |
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| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
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那我們有請教這個工程會你們的說明其中一個主要的部分是要研究節能省碳的研究案但我們是真的覺得我們看到很多的部會甚至很多的專家學者已經研究了這個非常非常多已經有非常多的數據在這個產業上 |
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所以我覺得其實為尊潔開支所以我個人是建議3減500萬,凍結10%以上說明。好,謝謝魯明哲召委。那李昆澤召委。好,謝謝召委。我的是第二案有關於公共工程委員會的委辦經費。公共工程企劃及法規業務編列預算是1053萬元。 |
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9164.488 |
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那本項業務包括協助工程產業全球化專案以及政府採購資系統資訊安全及功能獨立驗證與認證工作委託服務案這個相關計畫的必要性呢 |
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9210.354 |
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還有預計的效益其實並不明確我等一下請公共工程委員會必須要加強說明這是有關於第二案第五案是有關於公共工程委員會的委辦經費公共工程的技術業務公共工程節能解碳計畫推動及策略延期委託服務案編列的預算是600萬元 |
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9212.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
9239.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
工程會作為公共工程的這個最主要的主管機關我認為是應該要針對世界各國如歐盟的綠色公共採購指令英國的社會價值法案還有日本的綠色採購法他們的這種公共工程的檢查來做這種延期的參考並且提出具體的精進作為促進公共工程的禁令 |
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9240.439 |
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9254.069 |
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那其實這個我是凍結預算100萬希望你們提出說明報告後解凍也請公共工程委員會來做一個初步的說明好謝謝李坤澤委員那還有沒有提案委員何欣淳委員謝謝 |
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9258.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
9267.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
好,謝謝昭緯本席提的是第三案同樣的跟其他委員一樣大家都很關心這個淨零碳排是國際趨勢那現在我們中央政府也有訂定這個淨零碳排的一個路徑跟時程那所以呢各部會都積極動起來針對淨零碳排尤其是節能減碳的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
9283.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
9286.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
9305.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
9309.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
9330.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
9332.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
9348.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
9352.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
9365.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9367.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
bicyclone 公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
9407.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
的基準。所以呢我還是希望我們公共工程委員會是不是可以再更詳盡進一步的說明整個未來我們在公共工程的這個碳排資料庫的建立以及未來這個計算的一個基準跟驗證等等我們是不是有全套的一個想法那如何逐步的來到位。所以呢我只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
9409.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
9420.133 |
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動150萬元的預算。希望提出書面報告後,使得動之。以上,謝謝。好,謝謝。那還有沒有委員要提問?如果沒有,我們就請工程會這邊做一個說明。 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
9425.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
9448.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
主席各位委員大家好我先簡單把整個預算規模報告一次之後再請相關的單位來報告公共工程委員會過去的預算規模大概4億5千萬以113年度來講那114年度呢有增加了這個7千萬就看起來比例很高但是金額呢是不多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
9449.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
9464.91 |
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adequa7000萬里面有2000萬是屬於具有土木工程人員背景他的這個獎金的部分這是全國一致性的就好像具有醫師背景的不開業獎金這樣的一個性質 |
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9466.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
9469.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
9482.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
9488.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
9508.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
9516.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
相對很單純的業務費用以上我做這樣的說明請各位能夠支持那接著我請相關的處來報名 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
9519.648 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
9542.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
各位委員好,我是技術處處長鄭君敏。就委員提到的一到五案我一起先說明一下。那有關於魯明哲委員,謝謝魯明哲委員。這一個我們這個委辦計畫增加的原因真的是因為公共工程檢探的計畫的整個推動和策略延期所需要的。 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
9542.862 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
9567.273 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
adequa部分我們主要是因為我們要整個配合國家的政策發展要推動公共工程的檢探的作業跟國際來接軌所以我們擬了一個委辦計畫那這個委辦計畫裡面其實除了剛剛提到的收集國際的趨勢我們其實工程會已經有一個節能檢探的注意事項這個我們可能就要做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
9568.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
9594.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
需要的變更要滾動檢討另外還有剛剛其他委員提到的碳排系數的部分我們也一直要持續來優化還有做每個機關若是他們要提檢探必須要有一個目標這個目標要怎麼定呢可能就需要定出一個指引所以我們這個委辦計畫裡面也是會會整各個工程的單位提出來的指引以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
9595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
9595.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
bicyclist﹗ |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
9616.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
9624.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
bicyclists will calculate their carbon emissions and their carbon reduction targets. |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
9624.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
9631.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
bicyclists will calculate their carbon emissions and their carbon reduction targets. |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
9647.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
9653.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
9668.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
9695.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
然後委員剛才有說章案報告已經同意改成書面報告另外還有建議也刪除經同意三個字請委員這邊好那我教委不好意思我是一起再回覆其他委員那李昆哲委員的第二個提案李昆哲委員我們遵照辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
9696.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
9710.312 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
李昆哲委員另外還有第五個提案也是跟減碳有關係的是不是李委員我剛剛說明過以後是不是原來凍結100萬的部分可以改成凍結10% 這個也請李昆哲委員同意 |
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| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
9731.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。厲,謝謝何委員非常的清楚一直給我們指導那因為何委員文字的部分我們尊讚辦理那是不是凍結一百五十萬也可以改成凍結百分之十好那這樣說明完畢了好那請問魯昭偉 |
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| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
9760.425 |
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謝謝主席啊。我想這樣齁,剛剛因為處長特別說了嘛齁,就是每一筆錢都非常非常重要,不然真的這個可能很多人推動不下去喔。而且請教一下你今年的預算啦,今年,你們現在成長一千萬不管了齁,你今年都113年,你編了一千五百多萬,你目前執行率是多少? |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
9783.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
每一筆錢都很重要沒有下個月都活不下去按照你的錢應該要用完了嘛你目前的執行率我們拿到的資料才50%是不是還是有最新的12月的更新呢好主席這邊說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
9786.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
9794.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
跟委員報告我們委辦費法定預算1532萬3千到11月的執行數是772萬3千執行率是50.4那你就印證我的話50.4%嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
9830.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
我知道這個你怎麼解釋不用跟我解釋啦因為我們坦白講就是說我們看這個執行率給你錢了嘛從年初去年在審預算的時候每筆少一塊都不行而且馬上又要用今年就會用光大家都是叫這樣不然幹嘛什麼叫年度預算我們現在在審明年度預算你再多一千可是你要告訴我現在預算只執行不管是後面下個月請款我們不管啦目前執行率只有50.4%啦所以我想這樣的啦 |
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9832.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
9834.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
9849.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
9876.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
講的3.5百萬的意思是114年3.5百萬之後呢他還是比今年增加了百分之三十幾趴也是增加到兩千萬所以我們也是說這個刪除的部分請大家能夠支持謝謝那工程會這邊主秘是副主委要講清楚一點報告主席還有報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
9882.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
9896.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
報告各位委員這個是誤解因為我們一般的契約最後結案的時候才會大部分的那時候付款所以表面上看起來現在是到到7月是付款付了50%是當中完成的不只是50 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
9898.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
9915.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
這一部分,而是最後12月會付款,所以看起來是50,實際上執行的不只是50,這因為是尚未付款嘛,所以是有點誤解,請各位朋友高抬貴手,那錢不多啦,是不是就一定比例的凍結,然後來素面報告這樣,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
9917.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
9944.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
好,事實上我本期在這邊提過一些意見因為我們知道這個濟寧碳排也是全球的一個國際趨勢那工程會他也辦理了一個統籌的一個角色因為他必須去推動公共工程的減碳包括碳排基準還有這個資料庫提供整個政府部門的一個參考所以他們也是扮演一個重要的一個關鍵的一個角色所以在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
9945.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
9961.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
adequation是不是我們就凍結案就不予刪減好不好因為預算數也不高啦好不好那這樣好不好這個就送後面協商好不好如果說大家有困難我們也尊重好不好後面給高層去協商不多真的不多 |
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9968.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
9988.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
人家魯昭偉講的也不是沒有理由啦啊既然他提3他3、500萬也真的有一點高那是不是就這樣弄個100萬弄個100萬你們也忍耐一下但是你們執行力事實上是不好但是主委講這些人家會接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
9989.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
10007.478 |
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就是你後面補來的執行率會拉高一點點但是成績也不好嘛所以我是建議這樣啦看我們魯昭偉還有竹偉那個召集人你們看一下我是建議說不然就三個一百萬其他就那個啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
10008.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
10008.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
則三、繼續審查114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
10030.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
10042.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。第三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。cipher. |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
10062.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
10069.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
好,我們魯昭惟還有徐富奎委員。好,我們魯昭惟,謝謝。 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
10074.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
10101.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
好那這個部分其實這個我們看到預算增加將近4成啦將近4成去年是就今年是2595元嘛那我114年是3627啦當然剛剛我們的主委也特別說啦也說今年有整體整體從415提升到大概512啦我們也理解那當然你們也來跟我們說增加的原因因為畢竟裡面有一些委外的人力還有一些計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
10102.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
10102.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
﹝章節預算﹞ |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
10122.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
10137.221 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
10140.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
10167.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
三減一百萬有沒有問題?跟主席及各位委員報告那因為我們這個增加的費用有包括因為人力的那個就是派那個派駐勞工的人力那因為隨著基本工資的調漲然後還有一些我們這個出國教育訓練這個部分呢也是要增進我們自己對不起那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
10168.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
10168.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
對你們預計要執行的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
10198.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
10225.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
民視到底什麼會受到影響?你說說那麼多行到底哪一個會受到明確的影響?因為很多的像人事的費用那些都固定的嘛,多少就是多少,人家要檢查多少這個本委員會是都不會去動這一些啦但是你其他的相關的這一些如果說3.1%有哪些業務或者是就沒有辦法處理的,來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
10226.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
10232.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
10242.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
10269.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
我們就來處理第6到第8案稅出通案業務費一般事務費我們3減50萬元然後凍結10%提書面報告後時的凍資科目自行調整我們接下來處理第9到12案稅出通案派員出國計劃含國外旅費及出國教育訓練費我們請提案委員我們要垂詢我們請鄰居縣委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
10272.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
10283.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
好接下來邱若驊委員好謝謝本期題第10案因為明年我們工程會的出國預算增加比例幅度很大啦增加了120%明年編的259萬那 |
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但你今年的執行率我看到11月只有6乘6你今年的錢都用不完了明年再增加一倍所以我想請工程會做說明針對你未來新增有哪些新增的出國計劃也預期成效等於原本有提三減那經過通以後就改為凍結十分之一請工程會三個月內提報告好 謝謝接下來邀請邱鲁豪委員 |
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謝謝主席本席提問是第11案同樣的是國外的旅費那其中考察先進國家軌道工程所需的國外出差旅費那是所有計畫派員最多的一案那本席認為應該精簡出國的考察人數所以有提簡略該預算45萬以上 |
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好,謝謝邱陸法委員。那還有沒有提案委員要來提詢詢?就是明年 請廖先祥委員。謝謝主席喔。那明年的出入法團你們的項目跟人員都已經訂好了沒啊?因為就是目前就只有一個今天該這個大項的項而已嘛。像其他數位部啊還是誰要出去他們都寫得很清楚活動啊幾月幾號啊幾個人去花費多少錢等等的啦有沒有相關資料能夠提供?以上。 |
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好,謝謝。那我們現在請工程會這邊做說明。報告委員,工程會過去的出國預算非常少。大概去WTO參加相關協定的會議或國外的會議。甚至海外拓展的考核才變八萬塊。我看這個八萬塊還有兩個人,所以是非常少。那這一次新增的是兩部分。 |
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第一部分是工程會的我們負責所有國家的重大的公共建設的綜合規劃的寫審還有基本設計的審查這裡面包括很多是軌道、水利等等那審查每年這樣這個負責大概每年大概6千億至8千億的重大公共建設所以我們同仁他基本上他的視野或是知識 |
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當然是不能夠比原設計機關還弱嘛這樣怎麼去審查原設計機關的這些計畫所以明年起希望這個預算如果獲得貴會的支持的話每年會派兩位到日本做短期的實務上的這個 |
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單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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一年四個人經費才不到一百萬左右所以看起來也不多那另外就是因為我們審查的比較重大的軌道捷運然後相關相關的這些計畫那有的主辦機關會有出國去看比較先進的設施的這樣計畫那需要配合去配合去做考察訪視的這樣的一個出國行程並不是我們自己這個 |
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議員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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是的,因爲他 |
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公共工程委員會針對他們要出國的項目也都說得很清楚是多少人然後要做怎樣的一個工作他也說得很明確的啦,向各位委員報告因為你上來他可能就會少了一個人可以出去 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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我說真的啦你這個如果以人事行政總署啊在歐洲的例行的一個生活費我不知道這個預算怎麼編的我也不知道誰編的啦但你說這個計畫如果說你是一次的一次的去考察十幾天我覺得這個預算是夠的你要在那邊待兩到四個月齁其實我不太清楚就兩到四個人去日本一趴 |
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兩到四個月去大學然後去歐洲兩到四個月坦白講這個經費不夠啦我希望你們能夠把它算得更清楚啦那尊重主席的 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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就全部啦,一起啦,就是百分之十齁,凍結百分之十,然後提書面報告後時的動質。那我們希望你們這個書面報告可以做一個比較詳細的一個說明齁。好,謝謝。那我們接下來處理第13到第14案第一幕,一般行政。好,那我們請提案委員有沒有要做提問? |
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好,那我跟國通委員有提案啦,這樣水電費增加到90萬啦,這樣就提醒一下我改組決議啦齁,組決議啦,希望在你們自己研究節能省炭在工程類的,我們希望你們的用電也能夠在節能省、省炭、尊潔這個開支的方面,來做一個說明,好吧,就以上。 |
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好謝謝魯明哲召委那接下來邀請林國成委員好那個因為我們魯召委已經改組決議我這個當然啦因為我本來是想說動百分之三十啦齁那現在是不是建議啊也就是我本來是希望專案報告啦那可以改書面報告然後凍結百分之十這樣齁 |
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好,那我們就是要做說明嗎?那個不用說明,好那這部分我們有關第13、第14案第一幕一般行政那我們一般行政向下基本行政工作維持我們凍結10%提書面報告後使得凍支然後第14案改組決議好,謝謝 |
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我們接下來處理第15到第33案第二幕公共工程企劃及法規業務預算數是9990萬4000元我們請提案委員有沒有要提問的我們請林國成委員 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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我蠻希望是做專案報告專案報告我知道你整個流程當初我們的建議你有沒有做因為我已經執行你過兩次前主委這個所以做一個專案報告這個部分都希望主委能夠做專案報告那其他刪除的部分我不刪除了好不好 |
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好,謝謝林國成委員。接下來邀請林郡縣委員。好,感謝主席。本期的第十案,我是提凍結案,凍結十分之一。我想請工程會提出一個書面,如何從法制面案採購機合執行面,有效減少行政機關的採購弊案。 |
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elcome to the meeting. |
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第19案建權及落實政府採購法規及制度、培訓及管理採購專業人員編列預算為346萬元 |
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當然檢探是一個國際的趨勢跟要求我們為了推動2050年的這個今年攤牌各級政府當然是要作為民間單位的一個重要的表率率先使用環境友善的採購但是我們工程會推動的綠色採購範本至今的使用率仍然不高這些採購範本的使用率還是很低的 |
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那工程會應該就目前推動綠色採購的困境以及如何促進綠色採購範本的使用提出具體的改善作為等一下你們來做說明我是提凍結35萬說明報告解凍接下來邀請徐副葵委員 |
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謝謝主席我提出第16跟17案那16案是有建議我們從去年1月開始將小額採購金額從10萬調到15萬但是工程會對於這樣的一個案子能要求在政府電子採購網 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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那針對17案的部分有鑒於近年這個大環境缺工缺料加上原物料的一個通膨我們也要求工程會應該積極輔導各機關的開標事宜避免造成這樣子一個兩億元以上巨額採購案的這個流標比率偏高那尤其針對缺料跟缺工的問題也應該積極這個協調相關部會能夠進行一個溝通協調然後作為一個公共工程的一個避免 |
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關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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來謝謝主席我提的第33案那跟黃敬豪委員提的32案的方向都一致了那就是我們上次有特別透過在委員會的時候有質詢過就希望採購申訴 |
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審議委員會裡面的諮詢委員相關的他的姓名、學經歷等資料也希望能夠公開啦因為我們覺得進廚房就不要怕熱啦而且也希望這些諮詢委員以國家級的諮詢委員為榮啦那這個的部分有承諾在明年度新聘的部分會全部按照來公開那是不是這樣做?如果是的話那我們就比較OK可以配合啦 |
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ﻏ改組決議也沒有關係,但麻煩說明一下是或者不是。好,那如果沒有其他委員要徵詢,我們就請工程會這邊來做說明。 |
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謝謝跟委員報告那個我們今天詢問過就是將來明年開始一月開始就是他不方便公開我們就不以續聘那聘任的都全部會公開我想這個是我們進一步來做這個事情這我們已經完成完成調查了所以明年開始就公開所有聘任的這部分說明那另外剛才說那個林委員所提的請主秘說明好不好我們在修法中 |
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有關剛有提到的這個要專案報告這個有關保障這個分包商的這個部分那跟委員報告這個我們目前因為在檢討這個政府採購法的法制的修法 |
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閱讀委員會報告 |
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另外一個就是剛剛徐委員有提到有關於小額採購提到15萬元以後那是不是這個小額採購10到15萬還要匯報這個跟委員報告我們已經取消了 |
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至於流費標這個部分我們持續在檢討當中我們就會提書面報告李委員有提到有關於綠色採購的這個部分因為我們這跟環境部要搭配所以我們會跟環境部研議以後看如何再更精進然後讓範本有需要再修正的地方如何去執行這個我們會提書面報告 |
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至於這個有關林委員有提到這個採購弊案的這個部分這個我們是持續在精進檢討然後也會利用一些大數據的問題去分析這個部分以上先做簡短的報告報告完畢 |
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第三十二、三十三案就改組決議。 |
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第二十七案我們廖先祥委員是提刪減案那在這邊如果廖委員同意我們是不是就做成這個凍結案我們就是關於第二幕公共工程企劃及法規業務我們就凍結10%然後提書面報告後使得凍結 |
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第二幕公共工程企劃及法規業務我們決議就是凍結10%提書面報告後時的凍支那第32、33案改組決議 |
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接下來我們處理第三幕公共工程技術業務然後預算數是45332,000元我們的案數是34到48案那我們請提案委員我們要詮詢的部分我們首先請林俊憲委員謝謝 |
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接下來林培祥委員好 謝謝主席本期提議第18案各位同仁現在我們現在都在推公共工程的那個節能減碳那各行政單位都要來計算它的減碳成效那工程會這裡有訂一個等於工程節能減碳注意事項 |
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我在我們委員會質詢的時候也提出來因為這個表就是你讓行政機關自己檢核自己但你是用是非題就是你這個事情有沒有做是或否很難了解這個機關到底實際檢探的成效加上各行政機關自己有定的都很少我看他們也不知道怎麼定 |
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舉個例子像英國英國在2022年公共建設生命週期簡單評估他就用數字了 |
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另外本期提第15案﹖ |
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我相信我們很多委員也都注意到那個公共工程很難標出去幾個原因除了人力以外就價格那工程會大概45萬我提的這個就是工程會他自己有訂一個簡單講就是各項東西的一個合理價格就所謂的價格資料庫供各行政機關來參考 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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大概兩千兩百多齁到三千兩百但是我們財團法人台灣營建研究院的營建價格平台啊他每一平方每一立方尺是三千三百八到三千四啦你看價格差那麼多我們工程會公告的一半混凝土一立方尺是兩千二到三千二就財團法人台灣建研所他研出來是三千三百八十到三千四價差一立方尺差一千塊 |
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那你這樣定出來的價格如果跟市價有很大的差異你公共工程當然飆不出去那這個狀況是不是存在或者是如何改善我原本要提三件我現在同意也是凍結十分之後請工程會三個月內提報告好謝謝好謝謝林俊憲委員接下來邀請林沛翔委員接下來廖先生 |
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謝謝主要是我主要提34案主要是針對這個我們這個45004500萬的預算裡面其中有新增辦理公共工程節能減碳計劃推動機及策略延期委託服務費900萬但是事實上來講我們去看的時候基本上只有另外一筆像一筆款項就是有關節能減碳的這個 |
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推動計畫只有600萬所以中間有300萬的所以中間有明確有300萬的gap有300萬的那個差額所以針對這點來講的話我認為說我們這邊應該要強力監督我同意就是說3減1200萬到四分之一可能過了一點但是我重新提議3減500萬那謝謝林培翔委員接下來邀請廖仙翔委員 |
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好 謝謝因為上次在委員會做詢答的時候有不少委員提到我們工程會的碳排氣數跟經濟部或者是環境部的碳排氣數到底有沒有掛鉤這一點我們好像工程會到現在好像還沒有一個明確的一個說明也麻煩一併提出一下 謝謝好 謝謝廖先祥委員接下來邀請徐富奎委員 |
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謝謝主席我提出第35案有鑒於工程會目前建立的一個價格資料庫提供一個公料預算及決算的一個價格但是並沒有建立一個大宗資材的碳排係數的估價系統那未來針對這個使用低碳建材之後公共工程的成本可能隨之調高 |
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為了避免推動減碳指引之後造成各機關的公共工程預算可以支出或是廠商投標的意願降低我想要求工程會必須做出相關的因應作為作為公共工程銜接我國減碳的一個目標所以我提出凍結公共工程技術業務的預算數10%請我們公共工程委員會能夠提出書面報告予以動之。謝謝 |
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好,謝謝徐福奎委員那還有沒有提案委員要垂詢的若沒有我們就先請公共工程委員會做說明好,請技術處好各位委員好我技術處就針對剛剛趙委員說的順序的委員部分我先說明第一個是林俊信委員的部分 |
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那民進新聞委員提到的38案裡面有講到我們的減能減碳的減核注意事項其實真的就如委員講的當時我們111年訂的時候是比較定性的那現在我們也知道要算出減碳的目標減碳量一定要定量 |
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bicyclist |
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工程會會再進一步提出一些工具比如說一個比較系統的讓大家就如委員講的像英國啊那些國家一個指令可以進去計算這個也是我們朝向的目標謝謝委員所以也謝謝委員不簡略然後另外林俊憲委員有提到價格資料庫45萬那一個部分也跟委員說明一下這個價格資料庫呢 |
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ﻷ ﻷ |
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謝謝委員也有發現那我們自己呢其實我們對當下的市場行情有做了另外一件事就是我們會去工程會有去調查大宗資材那可能大家不會用的是因為我們把這兩件價格資料跟大宗資材分放在不同的網頁上所以很多機關不會用大宗資材 |
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adequate委員我們現在已經知道問題在哪裡所以我在價格資料庫的上面那一頁我就會增加了說你若要看市場行情的話我另外有大宗資材請連結到哪一個網頁那以後我們會再做更進一步的整合謝謝委員這邊的支持那就也謝謝委員不予以簡略那凍結的部分還有書面報告我們會再詳細來說明那剛剛 |
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第二個林沛翔委員有提到34案的部分就是說我們委辦計畫剛剛一直解釋只有講到600萬那另外300萬是在哪裡?其實300萬 |
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bicyclist 則要做350萬,不是300萬。 |
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議員會議員會議 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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六、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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好,好,謝謝林國成委員。好,那如果委員、提案委員沒有要再進一步垂詢的部分,我們來做一個處理。有關第三幕公共工程技術業務,因為這個預算數也不高,就4533萬2000元。我們是不是,就是我們做成凍結10%,然後提書面報告後,使得凍之,我們就提凍結案,好。 |
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謝謝,謝謝各位委員。那我們接下來處理第49到63案第4目公共工程管理業務那預算數是3589萬2000元那這個部分請那個提案委員是不是有要垂詢的部分那我們請林佩祥委員,謝謝 |
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好 謝謝主席其實我是針對說這獎勵措施其實這個金職獎獎勵措施其實應該隨時要檢討因為我們也看過有不少不少這個不實廠商在拿到金職獎之後然後後面才出問題所以要為了符合公共工程的最大利益然後我們會希望說這個能夠隨時去檢討去做一個update以上 |
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接下來邀請林國成委員我是有三個案50、51、52本來50案我是有3減500萬那現在改為不3減然後就是改為凍結好不好 |
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好OK好那接下來邀請徐副委員然後徐副委員之後請魯明哲召委謝謝 |
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謝主席,我提五十三跟五十四案。那五十三主要是針對我們工程會列管中央及地方政府的一個閒置公共設施。抽查的比例偏低。那這部分我們請公共工程委員會應該檢討並訂定同一個抽查比例。那提案我來提案凍結,改為這個預算數的十分之一。 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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好,謝謝徐副委員。接下來邀請魯明哲召委。那魯明哲召委發言之後請黃建豪委員,謝謝。 |
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好 謝謝主席我個人提案是第60案60案主要針對於這個你們有說明公共工程金職獎所需的經費因為我們看到今年度是800萬然後明年編列預算多了260萬帳幅大概是三成多一點那再看你們裡面分類的部分其中有一個因為委員出席費跟交通費是編列了410萬 |
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因為過去都是這樣啦就是委員他的交通費補助然後出席參與這場會議大家討論貢獻一些專業知識討論結果誰得獎就結束了所以委員一般的委員大概主要是出席費跟交通費但你們在明年度要增加了委員審查費委員審查費120萬我是覺得 |
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當然我不知道它的必要性在哪裡啦跟我們現在地方政府中央政府有太多的類似的委員會在做提供意見評估的那大部分都是以出租費交通費為主那你再增加一個審查費的這個部分 |
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是所有外聘委員那我們內聘委我們自己的委員到底是怎麼樣去做一個分配啊所以我並不是很清楚了所以我這邊提的是3減100萬凍結10%書面報告 |
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好謝謝魯明哲召委接下來請黃建豪委員謝謝好謝謝召委那我提的是61案那主要也是針對說其實這個公共工程委員會應該主要是負責我們整個地方很多地方的公共工程的品質跟計畫那過去可以看到是民眾除了這個行人地域之外在行車安全的抱怨也非常多包含說道路的品質的這個規劃那所以之前也看到說去台灣大概七八成以上的這個甲等的道路品質 |
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第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算：一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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地方政府也開心然後公共工程會也開心這樣大家這個文化應該要有所改變這是第一件事情所以我特別提這個動機還是督促我們學校正式把事情做好不好意思那我再補充一下因為剛剛前面我剛好去質詢跟召委抱歉一下就是這個審查委員跟那個諮詢委員的部分因為之前 |
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新聘的諮詢委員或是舊的諮詢委員該公開就公開就一切都比照審議委員就按照政府諮詢公開法讓民眾知道好讓大家知道說到底哪些委員在負責評議審議這些公共工程案例以上謝謝 |
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好謝謝黃建豪委員剛剛有關諮詢委員那個部分主委有說明他們已經都徵詢過了會公開公告所以改組決議就是您的提案跟魯兆偉的提案就是改組決議好那有關第四幕的部分如果委員沒有要在垂詢的部分我們就是不是來做一個處理在這個部分我們工程會要不要再做說明 |
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稍微還有各位委員大家好我針對那個提案的順序我來說明了針對統一說明就審查費那部分是不是容我在說明一下各位委員報告了因為審查費的部分因為一個委員我們要到現場去 |
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同意不剪裂因為金職獎是每年報名的人越來越多然後我們現在從施動工開始就要提早去查核所以業務量是有增加這跟委員報告 |
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接下來處理決議案第64到77案。決議案第64案 |
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準照辦理。好,那我們照案通過。第65案。準照辦理。好,照案通過。第66案。第66案我們建議文字濁修。濁修的文字就是在第三行最後一句話開始。建立減能減碳工程。這個修正成建立減碳工程機制。不,落實減核仿試機制。然後並公佈仿試成果報告。 |
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主要的理由是因為我們現在已經準備要建立這個仿式的機制所以文字配合修正有遵循蔡總統的同意有簽名請把修正文字再送主席台我們第66案就照文字修正後通過接下來第67案遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理第69案 |
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告知主席第74案有兩個部分建議修正第一個是倒數第三行公共工程的那個公字那是可能要修正成工程的公 |
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倒數第二行專案報告我們建議改成書面報告那理由是因為這個案子跟剛剛的第15案一樣這個都涉及政府採購法修法的這個制度那所以如果要專案報告可能跟修法來不及配合好我們要員同意那我們就照文字修正後通過好接下來第75案遵照辦理好照案通過第76案遵照辦理 |
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第77案 照案通過我們針對行政院公共工程委員會114年度單位預算提案我們處理完畢我們現在就休息半個小時我們休息到12點30分我們用餐然後再接續處理NCC的預算案 |
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對啦,對啦,你再審一審,你再...哪一個?那個是NCC的啊?不是啦,通常會我們建議這樣啦,因為...不是啦,因為我跟你講 |
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不是現在是這樣我們大家取得一個共識因為現在委員也還沒有送進來所以一個如果要審我們是建議全部送政黨協商不然的話我們還是會全部刪嘛那這樣的話反而不好嘛那因為委員還沒有來所以我是建議說這樣時間比較有啦那這段時間搞不好 |
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因為我們就用餐半個小時而已啦 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。况且二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。况且二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。況且二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。 |
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他們想要在委員會處理 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會 |
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好,我們現在繼續開會,那我們接下來就是要處理這個通傳會,那個單子 |
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好,我們接下來繼續開會那我們下午要處理國家通訊傳播委員會還有通訊傳播監督管理基金以及有線廣播電視事業發展基金的114年度預算那我們首先來處理國家通訊傳播委員會114年度單位預算那我先來介紹一下列席的官員首先介紹國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員陳重樹 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算．一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算．一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算．一、繼續審查114年度 |
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網際網路傳播辦公室參事兼主任 詹維旭北區監理處處長 蔡國棟中區監理處處長 黃宗祺南區監理處處長 劉豐章秘書室主任 劉德言 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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好謝謝以上介紹好那我們現在繼續處理國家通訊傳播委員會114年度單位預算那我們第一案稅入的部分主席主席 |
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我是建議這樣,第一個因為NCC委員現在組織也不見錢所以我是建議把整個案子移送到政黨協商另外一個113年 |
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因為上一次要提解凍案所以我建議這個解凍案提出來先生解凍案我們讓他過因為113案的跟業務無關114案的預算是跟所有114年的預算有關那現在NCC還沒有提人出來然後確實是只剩下三個委員所以在這整個過程當中 |
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我是認為有所組織切線所以在審這個預算確確實實怎麼審我們不曉得所以我是建議113案的凍結案讓他通過114案的 |
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一、就是等送我們政黨協商看他們怎麼處理那我們再來做審核或要退回來審或者政黨協商他們直接處理這樣的話我是建議主席是否這樣的建議是不是得當請主席做採檢 |
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好 謝謝林國成委員 那麽盧明哲、張偉好 謝謝主席 這個我的意見跟林國成委員是一致的那我們就把它具體化一點就針對於我們通傳會的單位預算通傳基金的單位預算以及第三本有限基金的附屬單位預算這個一併保留送協商那主要的原因是第一個是 |
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通常會最主要是委員制啦因為叫委員會你們是委員制而且在委員上面很多的決議包括了罰不罰、送不送基本上都是委員制啦現在委員切身未明我先講委員的部分 |
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第12屆第13屆 |
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提委員的部分當然是非常高層在提嘛那這個部分我們保留送協商正好他們高層一併來參與這個協商可能對我們現在逐條審查要刪那個刪什麼樣你們也很辛苦了所以我在這裡是不是能夠正式動議針對於通傳會、通傳基金以及有限基金這三本預算一併保留送協商以上 |
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好,謝謝魯明哲召委那是不是在場委員還有沒有其他的意見我們請李坤澤委員好,謝謝召委我只有簡單的三段話第一個,機關是事實的存在雖然現在NCC的委員還沒有補上來但是機關是事實的存在我提醒各位 |
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第二、除了大家在意的幾個議題之外NCC還是有很多關於民眾的相關的這些義務必須要持續的推動我想各位委員也都清楚第三、其實我也不反對全案 |
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然後保留送韓院長來草野協商這個也大家應該比較能夠接受這一點請召委做裁示 |
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現在主席、現在各位同仁其實審預算也是立委瞭解單位業務他們做哪些事、執行什麼明年要做什麼一個最好也唯一的機會大家都可以透過審預算來更瞭解這個單位更何況我們交通委員會也有很多的新人 |
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那我們如果把這個權力等於我們自己放棄嘛,那我們不審。那其實我覺得啦,你是爽到NCC啦。你沒有來市民你會開心的。你看上天這樣,你NCC待會請他吃飯。對不對?你去草野協商他不是更輕鬆?對不對?他們坐在這裡就讓我們大家忙。 |
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阿你去長嶼協商,長嶼協商的話基本上因為他是整個整筆年度總預算一起協商的對他們來講,傷掉皮毛也傷不了筋骨啦,在天堂我們給你榮譽一刀,可以審查五成,我們可以約會詢問啊,約會詢答啊 |
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bicy,我們自己放棄這樣的權利,對不對?這是我的個人意見,我覺得放棄實在很可惜,阿嬤不應該放棄。以上是我意見,謝謝。那因為我們交通委員會的議事處的主秘有建議,因為就是說我們機關的預算程序是先走完再來處理解凍案,那我想我們還是一幕一幕念過就是保留送協商這樣子好不好? |
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就是還是有一個記錄這樣那我們就是處理國家通訊傳播委員會114年度單位預算第一案稅入的部分我們就保留送這個院長就是政黨協商院會處理 |
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第二、第三案罰金罰款及貸金罰金罰款的部分保留送院會協商第四案行政規費收入登記費保留送院會協商第五到43案稅出第一幕一般行政全案保留送協商 |
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中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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接下來我們處理通訊傳播監督管理基金114年度附屬單位預算那我們第一案通案服務費用水電費我們保留送委員會協商第二案通案服務費用旅運費我們保留送委員會協商 |
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第三案通案服務費用修理保養及保固會我們保留送院會協商第四到七案通案服務費用專業服務費我們保留送院會協商第八以及74至75案通案服務費用媒體政策及業務宣導費我們保留送院會協商 |
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第九到十一、七十六案通案服務費用推展費我們保留送院會協商。第十二案通案租金、償債、利息及相關手續費我們保留送院會協商。十三至十九案通訊傳播監理政策企劃計劃我們保留送院會協商。 |
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第20至35案,基礎設施監理計劃,我們保留送院會協商。第36至41案,平台事業監理計劃,我們保留送院會協商。第42到56案,傳播事務監理計劃,我們保留送院會協商。第57到68案,網際網路傳播計劃,我們保留送院會協商。 |
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第69至73案法制業務計劃保留送院會協商我們決議案送院會協商我們接下來處理有限廣播電視事業發展基金114年度附屬單位預算 |
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第1到2案,撥付地方政府及捐贈公視計劃,保留送院會協商。第3至13案,有限電視普及發展與災害復健補助計劃,保留送院會協商。 |
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第14案有限廣播電視現況調查及服務品質提升計劃我們保留送院會協商。第15案一般行政管理計劃我們服務費用旅運費我們保留送院會協商。第16至17案一般行政管理計劃服務費用專業服務費我們保留送院會協商。第18至24案決議案我們保留送院會協商。 |
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二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算 |
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好,那針對本日會議做如下決議一、本日預算審查結果照列,暫照列或照協商結論通過二、本日通過之決議文字授權主席及議事人員調整三、114年度中央氣象署 |
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航港局公共工程委員會審查完畢通船會有限廣電基金預算案還有通船基金我們是保留送運會協商請問公務員對以上決議有無異議沒有異議通過那我們處理解凍案 |
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接下來請議事宣讀討論事項七有關國家通訊傳播委員會113年度單位預算解凍報告案暨兩案。 |
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討論思想七、繼續審查113年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案暨二案一、二國家通訊傳播委員會含檢証決議一預算凍結五百萬元書面報告案檢証決議二一般行政預算凍結七千萬元書面報告案宣讀完畢 |
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請問各位委員,以上兩案有無意見?好,沒有意見,我們決議均同意動之提報院會。現在休息,明天上午9點繼續開會。 |