| IVOD_ID |
164157 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164157 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T10:37:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T10:45:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db6cb9c1e23427254fcb8aa47c7299e750c92e8362d61d61ef266bd7c4c758768765ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃建賓 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:37:11 - 10:45:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席主席我們請客委會顧主委請顧主委主委好主委今天是我們客委會的業務報告那很巧前天我們行政院長卓院長出席這個2025全球客家文化會議的時候有特別強調這個客家六件的政策那其中有一個很關鍵的項目就是 |
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客家文化的傳承那這個也是本席今天要跟您討論的這個重點那根據111年客會的調查在客家族群當中 |
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居住在客家文化重點發展區也就是我們客家人集中居住的這個區域熟悉客語的人比例較高那非重點區域的客家民眾客語的聽說能力都大幅下降那我相信這個調查完全不意外我們早上這樣聽下來聽到大概很多人反應的是相同的我想因為環境絕對是影響語言傳播跟傳承很重要的這個關鍵因素 |
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根據我們客會的推估我們客家人口目前大概是446.9萬人台東縣的客家人口推估大概是44200多大概也佔了25%左右 四分之一主要是分布在台東市還有我們的縱谷地區像是關山 池上 鹿野這些地方因為這樣的人口的散居導致我們台東的客家文化的傳承這問題更加的嚴峻 |
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主任你今天幫我提到說要落實課宇的這個學習生活化但報告裡面除了建立幼兒園的這個課宇環境之外呢那跟生活化比較有關的就是其他的真的像距離生活化的這個都還有一點距離你說正在強調說這個考照的這個技巧的提升 |
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那本席認為這個不是政策的重點不是老科技是他要會講比較重要那我想這部分客人應該要重新來思考就是如何用更多的政策工具讓客語的傳承能夠真正的融合我們客家民眾的生活我想這才是真的提升母語能力這一定要從小扎根嘛那本席提出一個小小的建議我想母語的消失不是只有客語包括原住民語的這種情況 |
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那但原住民原住民的族語他在傳承上還有一個特殊的一個媒介就是教會因為透過信仰關係他們會上教會像我們收集到很多他們教會是用母語來宣教那相對之下他還是在增加他的使用率那我想像 |
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我們中央有園民會他就提供這樣的經費來補助教會用主語來宣教那來保存他的語言那課會是不是也可以參考類似的模式好像很多 今天很多客家的習俗或民間團體甚至廟宇嘛 |
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像本時我都講米蘭牛也好 台語也好我們除了平常在家裡面講以外 還有一個情況就是拜拜的時候 廟主都會跟你說嘛你聽說廟主說什麼 你都聽得懂就是我們會有習慣性的說法我想這個在客家庄應該也是可以來試看看 |
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讓我們政府來提供這些獎勵政策的誘因讓我們民間合作激發更多的創意然後打破一般我們官方宣傳的框架我們營造更多元的客語的生活環境跟活動讓更多的這個客家族群特別是年輕人小朋友這邊願意來學習客家語言我想這個才是真的有利於我們這個語言的傳承 |
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語言是一個文化的根本那語言的學習就是要跟生活連結 |
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接著在家學客語透過家庭、社區、民間團體跟學校共同營造這樣講客語的環境才可以讓客語代代相傳我們以台東縣為例我們有制定一個叫幸福台東客家文化傳承計畫這個是由我們政府協助在地的傳統客家聚落的創意設計客家的客庄的人文建設還有產業等等帶動整個 |
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科莊的這個新生命具體的做法像是辦一些音樂會啊 戲劇啊或是什麼客家好食活動我想這幾年台東都有辦一些相關的活動藉由這樣讓更多現代年輕人的生活方式呢讓更多的年輕人來學習客家語言文化的這個機會同時也可以推廣本行人在很喜歡的就是吃像客家美食這個部分我覺得這是我一般不同的族群要學習很快出的語言就是美食 |
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我想這個可以帶動我們整個客家聚落這個產業跟觀光像我們這幾年在國內非常受到讚賞這個台東的慢食節其實就不少這樣的元素我想這些活動都頗受好評我想本市認為台東縣的這個做法方向是很好的我也希望客會能夠積極的跟我們台東縣政府甚至我們鄉鎮公所來合作依助更多的資源來協助來推廣我們客家的這個文化傳承 |
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像我們去年台東市鹿野鄉還有關山鎮公所都有爭取相關的這些經費我記得去年是關山鎮爭取到包括客家文化祭然後語言學習計畫本席也會持續來推我們台東的客家族群 |
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向各委會來爭取相關的經費辦理我們相關的一些活動那這邊也要請主委務必全力來支持請問主委這個可不可以來允諾一下感謝召委我們一定會全力支持台東的合格發展還有剛剛召委提到年初免用高費 |
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建議學家可以透過廟宇、寺廟系統我相信我們要認真思考,因為在過去幾年來,學費對於廟會、寺廟的付出其實是沒有付出的,沒有付出的、沒有占出的,但是 |
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趙薇提到,我們要認真地想思考,是否要補充這座寺廟和這座家有寺廟的儀式活動跟學界的文化存在一起,才能夠運用在結合我們要認真地思考,感謝趙薇提供的意見 |
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對 謝謝主委 因為主委本席其實之前有參加過鹿野鄉一個很特別的一個叫大園水之祭他就在紀念早期先民 民 客 員外的私和子群共同開發水源的一個廟宇祭祀活動我覺得這個非常棒 甚至讓我們都覺得說這個除了有歷史上的意義以外我想在透過信仰這邊來推動我想這個也可以更代表我們客家族群這個 |
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這個叫吃苦耐勞的這個精神所以看到400年前我們客家祖先為了躲避遭難來到我們台灣面對惡劣的環境和資源的競爭這個客家的族群的這個特質就是堅毅不拔跟吃苦耐勞才有今天的發展我想面對我們 |
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感謝召委感謝謝謝 |