| IVOD_ID |
16413 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16413 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-25T08:31:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-25T15:59:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
07:27:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/bfaf9b39ac01a685f4b79b998fff709fb761654f0ebe352d6d1319bf84c9168264a5aa2741cfd0345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：繼續審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務預算部分。
【12月25日及26日二天一次會】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:31:15 - 15:59:00 |
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好我們現在開始開會出席委員與主法定人數今天很熱鬧齁大家時間要保護好現在開始開會請議事人員先讀上次會議的議事錄 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議議事錄時間113年12月18日星期三九十一分至十七十十九分十二月十九日星期四九十七分至十一時五十二分地點群賢樓801會議室出席委員蘇委員 |
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親權等15人列席委員王委員一川等12人列席官員勞動部部長紅生漢主席黃兆吉委員秀芳報告事項宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定討論事項一繼續審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於勞動部主管公務及基金預算決議一公務預算審查完略內容如審查結果二基金預算令則其處理 |
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稅務部分第二款罰款及賠償收入第152項勞動部250萬元照列第153項勞工保險局2億3874萬8千元照列第154項勞動力發展署及所屬29萬9千元照列第155項職業安全衛生署2億零500萬元照列第156項勞動基金運用局5列數第157項 |
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第166項勞工保險局245,000元照列第167項勞動力發展署及所署827萬元照列第168項職業安全衛生署28,000元照列第169項勞動基金運用局6,000元照列第170項勞動及職業安全衛生研究所60萬元照列第7款其他收入第163項勞動部554,000元照列第164項勞工保險局676,000元照列 |
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第165項勞動力發展署及所屬130萬2000元照列第166項職業安全衛生署25萬4000元照列第167項勞動基金運用局8000元照列第168項勞動及職業安全衛生研究所6萬元照列稅數部分第15款勞動部主管第一項 |
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勞動部原列28596956萬9千元簡列第二幕一般行政向下基本行政工作維持中一般公務所使用油資電話支通訊費租用影音機購置消耗品非消耗品及處理國會聯繫事務等60萬元 |
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第3目綜合規劃業務36萬元含策劃政策推展向下辦理勞動政策與重要措施及勞動部臉書等相關媒體宣導資料製作拖破及刊登等所需業務費6萬元第6目勞動條件及就業平等業務10萬元以上工具檢列106萬元科目均自行調整其餘均照列改列為2859億6850萬9千元 |
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本項提案六案保留送院會處理本項通過決議八十九項第二項勞工保險局原列三十七億一千二百零六萬二千元檢列媒體政策及業務宣導費七十萬元第一幕一般行政二百萬元共計檢列二百七十萬元 |
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科目自行調整其餘均照列改列為37億09362000本項通過決議28項第三項勞動力發展署及所屬原列17億39036000減列21萬元含第一幕一般行政向下基本行政工作維持中業務費之特別費1萬元科目自行調整其餘均照列改列為17億3882萬6000本項提案一案保留送院會處理 |
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本項通過決議38項第4項職業安全衛生署8億9308萬9千元照列本項提案一案保留送院會處理本項通過決議25項第5項勞動基金運用局2億4686萬4千元照列本項通過決議7項 |
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2221.1 |
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第6項勞動及職業安全衛生研究所原列3億2107萬3千元簡列第二幕勞動及職業安全衛生研究項下勞動市場趨勢與就業安定研究20萬元科目自行調整其餘均照列改列為3億2千零87萬3千元本項通過決議15項二繼續審查勞動部含送財團法人職業災害預防及重建中心114年度預算書案 |
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決議全案審查完略內容如審查結果擬據審查報告提報院會討論院會討論前不需交由黨團協商院會討論時由黃召及委員秀芳補充說明審查結果一工作計劃部分因依據收入支出不動產廠房及設備及投資性不動產投資及資金運用等向之審查結果隨同調整二收入支出及輿促部分 |
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收入總額3億9906萬7千元照列支出總額3億9726萬7千元照列本期剩餘180萬元照列3不動產廠房及設備及投資性不動產投資674萬5千元照列4資金運用部分因依據收入支出不動產廠房及設備及投資性不動產投資等項之審查結果隨同調整5通過決議一項宣讀完畢 |
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請問委員會上次議事錄有錯誤或疑落之處沒有那我們議事錄確定今天的議程是繼續審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務預算部分那我們今天基金不審查基金齁我們這兩天把公務預算先審完 |
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那我們現在先介紹在場的委員齁林業勤委員王振旭委員盧憲毅委員陳慶慧照著我們介紹我們在場的行政官員我們衛生福利部部長邱太元部長會計處張玉珍處長 |
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總委規劃師廖坤副司長社會救助及社公司蘇昭如司長保護服務司張秀淵司長護理及健康照護司司長蔡淑鳳 |
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醫事師 劉悅平師長口腔健康師 張雍敏師長中醫藥師 蘇益璋師長長期照護師 祝健方師長心理健康師 鄭淑欣代理師長 |
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社會保險司代理司長陳真慧秘書處許朝成處長人事處李玉慧處長統計處李秋彥處長知信處李建章處長政風處紀家珍處長 |
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國際合作組施金水主任護署醫療及社會福利機構管理會林慶豐執行長前民健康保險會周淑婉秘書張友山秘書 |
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全民健康保險爭議審議會參事兼秘書張奕祥衛生福利人員訓練中心主任楊惠芬國民年金監理會參事兼秘書石美春 |
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科技發展組紀監劉明勛國民健康署吳釗鈞署長疾管署莊仁祥署長食藥署莊昇宏署長順康健康保險署石崇亮署長社家署 |
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代理署長周道軍國衛院院長司徒慧康副院長行政院主計處公務預算處專門委員張嘉瑜 |
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2576.158 |
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本次會議討論事項已經於113年11月21日說明及詢問完畢。所以我們做以下先告本次審查公務預算案稅入科目以巷為單位稅出科目以木為處理單位沒有委員提案部分預算均照列 |
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本會召集會議結議以審查預算提案時保留於第二輪之提案提案委員不在場者不在處理該項提案本次審查會有關提案委員所提預算三檢案經委員會審查通過者除提案委員特別聲明不同意外經同意衛生福利部得科目自行調整 |
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有關提案委員預算凍結部分衛生福利部與各提案委員溝通結果如提案委員同意並按凍結者請衛生福利部於本次公務預算全部審查完盡前將各同意並按凍結之提案案號及科目會診後送主席臺先告或通過 |
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上述委員提案凍結之預算除特別聲明不同意者文字均統一委須向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告並經同意後使得動之在本會審查中如提案委員口頭同意改為主決議或 |
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第184項疾病管制署60萬元185項食品藥物管理署175萬元186項中央健康保險署3680萬3000元187項國民 |
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2737.582 |
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188項社會及家庭署無劣數189項國家中醫藥研究所無劣數第三款規費收入第152項衛生福利部211066萬5000元153項疾病管制署1億3353萬9000元 |
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2745.475 |
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2770.502 |
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一五四項食品藥物管理署19億1129萬6千元一五五項中央健康保險署2億0330萬2千元一五六項公民健康署無劣數第四款財產收入一九六項衛生福利部708萬3千元一九七項疾病管制署48萬5千元一九八項食品藥物管理署17萬7千元一九九項中央健康保險署245萬5千元 |
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2773.837 |
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2775.961 |
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200項國民健康署165,000元201項社會及家庭署149,000元 |
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2782.307 |
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2802.708 |
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第5款營業營餘及事業收入第11項食品藥物管理署原列2億元系非營業特種基金管制藥品製藥工廠作業基金剩餘繳庫佔照列是所屬非營業特種基金審議確定後再行調整第7款其他收入194項 |
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衛生福利部6297萬7千元195項疾病管制署84萬9千元196項食品藥物管理署17萬3千元 |
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2815.799 |
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2834.575 |
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一九七項中央健康保險署九十六萬四千元一九八項國民健康署八萬八千元一九九項社會及家庭署三億八千九百一十三萬一千元二百項國家中醫藥研究所十六萬三千元二稅出部分第十七款衛生福利部主管第一項 |
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2836.514 |
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2842.66 |
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衛生福利部2785億6953萬7千元第一幕公費生培育28825萬元第二幕科技業務54億9515萬1千元第三幕社會保險業務2380億2467萬4千元 |
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2863.496 |
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第4目社會救助業務12億2400億萬元第5目社工及社區發展業務4420萬1000元第6目保護服務業務19億1834萬8000元第7目一般行政10億8718萬元第8目醫政業務95億2702萬元第9目心理及口腔健康業務76億9945萬5000元第10目 |
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2884.904 |
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護理及健康照護業務798799500011中醫業務39975700012綜合規劃業務17282400013國際衛生業務15569600014衛生福利諮詢業務16244900015醫院營運業務425685200016 |
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2913.999 |
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非營業特種基金1億1467萬5千元暫照列是所屬非營業特種基金審議確定後再行調整17目第一預備金1400萬元第二項疾病管制屬121億5471萬3千元第一目科技業務 |
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二億四千零八十四萬六千元第二幕一般行政十一億二千零六十萬一千元第三幕防疫業務九十四億八千九百零一萬六千元第四幕一般建築及設備十三億零四百二十萬元第五幕第一預備金五萬元第三項食品藥物管理署三十六億零六百七十九萬五千元第一幕科技業務五億五千四百二十三萬六千元 |
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第2目一般行政八億七千五百四十七萬四千元第三目食品藥物管理業務二十一億七千七百零五萬七千元第4目一般建築及設備無列數第5目第一預備金二萬八千元第4項中央健康保險署一百七八億八千零六十萬六千元第一目 |
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2994.171 |
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科技業務2億5496萬8千元 第二幕一般行政32億7千零50萬6千元 第三幕健保業務143億5千3百47萬2千元 第四幕一般建築及設備165萬元 第五幕第一預備金1萬元 第五項國民健康署111億8千零91萬9千元 第一幕科技業務1億3千167萬6千元 第二幕一般行政2億9千6百21萬9千元 |
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3009.44 |
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第3目國民健康業務107億5301萬4千元第4目第一位預備金1萬元第6項社會及家庭署465億1914萬3千元第1目科技業務3406萬元第2目社會保險業務66億6484萬4千元第3目一般行政2億2843萬9千元第4目社會福利服務業務395億0917萬元 |
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3049.744 |
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第五目非營業特種基金8208萬5千元暫照列是所屬非營業特種基金衛生福利特別收入基金審議確定後再行調整第六目第一倍金54萬5千元第七項國家中醫藥研究所2億6734萬8千元第一目科技業務3440萬7千元第二目一般行政1億168萬6千元第三目研究及實驗1億3124萬9千元第四目第一倍金6千元 |
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3058.807 |
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3060.068 |
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繼續宣讀委員提案會審表 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
3089.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
3092.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
辦理重點科別培育公費醫師制度計畫第二期 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
3094.321 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
3119.787 |
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蘇清泉等動結十分之一秋政軍圖泉及陳金輝動結一千萬元十十一援助民族及離島地區醫事人員養成計劃第五期蘇清泉等動結十分之一秋政軍圖泉及陳金輝動結一百萬元十二陳寅吳立華等援助民族及離島地區醫事人員養成計劃第五期業務費動結一百萬元十三至十六科技發展工作陳昭之陳金輝廖偉翔檢列五百萬元動結五百萬元 |
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3136.56 |
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王秀帆等凍結一千萬元李遠琴等凍結五十萬元王振旭等凍結十萬元十七陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝推動衛生福利科技發展與管理凍結二十分之三十八盧憲一等推動衛生福利科技 |
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3137.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
3164.21 |
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發展與管理委辦費減列300萬元19 20健康醫療生技轉移臨床推動計劃不限一等減列5000萬元輸侵權等凍結五分之一21曾經為完育敏成招資社會福利及統計應用計劃凍結五分之一22劉建國等科目同21凍結100萬元23廖爾祥等社會福利及統計應用計劃委辦費凍結20分之一24至27永續提高高品質 |
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| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
3181.142 |
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中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務：立法院第11屆第12會議中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務．立法院第12會議中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務．立法院第12會議中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務．立法院第12會議中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務．立法院第12會議中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務．立法院第12會議中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務．立法院第13會議中央政府總預算案關於 |
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委員會議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
3214.886 |
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數位資訊醫療資推動與整合教育訓練費凍結500萬元40料委員等按日案件計酬金凍結100萬元41陳昭芝等數位資訊醫療資推動與整合委辦費 |
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3221.378 |
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動結二十分之三四十二料有強等數位資訊醫療之推動與整合一般事務費動結二百萬元四十三曾經會玩育敏成招之推動中醫藥科技發展計劃動結十分之一四十四曾經會玩育敏成招之衛福業務數位轉型服務藥生計劃動結二十分之三四十五至48料有強等衛福業務數位轉型服務藥生計劃通訊費動結一百萬元資訊服務費動結五百萬元動結一百萬元 |
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| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
3255.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
資訊軟體硬體設備凍結600萬元49 49曾經輝環育敏陳昭芝財囊法人國家衛生研究院發展計劃凍結1 1⁄10 50圖圈集媒體政策及業務宣導費凍結1 1⁄10 51乘以5立法等國家衛生研究院基本運作計劃凍結100萬元52盧縣一等國家衛生研究基本運作計劃獎補助簡列2億元53乘以5立法等國家健康政策智庫與研究凍結200萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
3276.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
3300.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
五四至五十六健康福祉研究蘇清泉等檢列二億元劉建國等檢列一百萬元凍結五百萬元林淑芬等凍結二千萬元五十七盧建一等健康福祉研究獎補助費檢列五千萬元五十八蘇清泉等生技醫藥產品與技術研發凍結十分之三五十九蘇清泉等健康大數據治理應用計劃檢列三百萬元凍結十分之一六十陳金輝王韻敏陳昭芝 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
3301.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
3323.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
新建生物質技廠及戰略平台支援庫計劃凍結五分之一 曾經為王玉敏陳昭之高齡醫學暨健康福祉研究中心新建工程計劃凍結五分之一 完整序等社會保險業務凍結十萬元 曾經為王玉敏陳昭之社會保險行政工作凍結十分之一 蘇清泉等 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
3323.792 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
3333.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
全民健康保險管理凍結二分之一65成超支等全民健康保險管理違反費凍結十分之一66成經費等全民健康保險管理國外旅費凍結二分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
3335.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3358.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
67曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝國民年金監理及審議凍結四分之一68春季錢等國民年金監理及審議水電費檢列2萬元69陳昭芝等國民年金監理及審議國外旅費凍結二分之一70曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝低收入戶健保費及醫療補助凍結二十分之一車增金土權及曾經輝國民年金保險補助凍結100萬元72至74 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
3361.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
3378.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
社會救助業務曾經會王玉敏曾昭芝凍結二十分之一林月琴范雲等凍結三百萬元王振旭等凍結十萬元七十五劉建國等督導辦理各項救助凍結一百萬元七十六至七十八督導辦理各項救助業務費等廖偉祥羅志強 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
3380.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
3399.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
動結10分之3陳盈武力華等動結20分之3徒權吉等動結10分之1七一九蘇勛前等督導辦理各項救助水電費檢列10萬元八十陳昭芝等督導辦理各項救助委辦費動結10分之1八十一邱振軍徒權吉陳金輝辦理1957福利諮詢專線檢列50萬元動結50萬元八十二邱振軍徒權吉陳金輝紓困及強化社會安全網第二期計劃動結100萬元八十三廖偉強羅志強等 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
3407.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
3427.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
紓困及強化社會安全網第二期計劃業務費凍結十分之三八二四零月情等社工及社區發展業務凍結一百五十萬元八十五完整區等科目統八二四凍結一萬元八十六盧憲一等規劃建立社會工作專業委辦費檢列一百萬元八二七盧憲一徐欣盈等建立社會福利自願服務制度凍結五百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
3428.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3446.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
曾經輝等強化社會安全網第二期計劃凍結十分之一89吳俊一等強化社會安全網第二期計劃業務費委辦費檢列200萬元90文正旭陳培宇等保護服務業務凍結50萬元91完正旭等柯木桐90凍結10萬元92曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝推 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
3447.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
3468.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
而少保護及處遇輔導凍結二十分之三九十三徒權及等科目同九十二凍結二十分之一九十四陳清輝等推展而少保護及處遇輔導業務費凍結五分之一九十五至九十八強化社會安全網第二期計劃陳清輝王玉敏陳昭芝凍結二十分之三邱振軍徒權及陳清輝凍結五百萬元袁月琴等凍結三百萬元凍結一百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
3471.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
3496.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
曾經輝等強化社會安全網第二期計劃業務費凍結三分之一百至一百零三衛生福利部推動性騷擾防治法中長城個案計劃曾經輝王韻敏曾招致凍結二十分之一劉建國等凍結二百萬元王振旭張雅琳等凍結一百萬元邱振均圖檢局曾經輝凍結五十萬元一零四曾經輝王韻敏曾招致一般行政檢列二十分之一凍結十分之一陳寅等 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
3497.361 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
3526.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
一百零五成癮等人緣維持人事費凍結九千萬元一零六至一零八基本行政工作維持輸清權等檢列九十萬元曾經會完育敏陳昭芝凍結五分之一劉建國等凍結五百萬元一零九輸清權等基本行政工作維持水電費檢列二百萬元一零零至一一六基本工作基本行政工作維持特別費陳昭芝等全數檢列全數凍結如憲一徐欣盈等凍結一百萬元陳昭芝等凍結二分之一陳昭芝等凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
3529.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
3551.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
議員一七至一二一一一正業務求正均土權及曾經會凍結一千萬元陳昭芝等凍結五百萬元李月琴等凍結一百萬元王振旭等凍結十萬元一二二王玉敏等媒體政策及業務宣導費檢列二百二十萬元一二三陳寅等依正法規與一四人員及機構管理檢列二百萬元凍結五百萬元一二四曾經會王玉敏陳昭芝 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
3552.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
3554.928 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
一正法規與醫事人員及機構管理業務費减列300萬元一二九乘以等 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
3577.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
3586.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
醫療業務督導管理凍結一百萬元一三零曾經為王玉敏陳昭芝柯木桐一二九凍結十分之一一三一蘇清泉等替代役水電費減列一萬五千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
3588.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
3614.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
一三二至一三七建全醫療政策網絡成一等檢列三百萬元凍結一千萬元曾經問王玉敏陳昭芝凍結二十分之三朱敬賢盧憲一王玉敏凍結十分之一王玉敏等凍結二千萬元林淑芬等凍結一千萬元王正旭等凍結一百萬元一三八盧憲一等建全醫療政策網絡外辦費檢列三千萬元一三九陳昭芝等柯木桐一三八凍結二分之一盧憲一徐欣寅等辦理維護病人安全及醫療品質等計劃凍結三百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
3617.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
3644.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
141盧憲毅徐欣穎等辦理醫療區域輔導與醫療資源整合等計劃凍結五百萬元142、143陳昭芝等辦理醫療區域輔導與醫療整合計劃媒體政策及業務宣導費凍結十分之一144至146新南向衣衛合作與產業鏈發展中長城計劃第二期劉建國等檢列二百萬元凍結二百萬元蘇清泉等凍結五分之一陳金輝、王育敏、陳昭芝凍結五分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
3647.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3655.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
147、148辦理生產事務救濟、廖瑋祥等凍結一千萬元曾慶輝、王育敏、陳昭芝凍結二十分之三149、盧憲一、徐清穎等 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
3658.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
3687.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
優化偏鄉醫療精進計劃第二期凍結五分之一一五零如現一等優化偏鄉醫療精進計劃第二期委辦費全數檢列一五一至一五六完善兒童醫療網絡出勤券等凍結十分之一陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝凍結二十分之一邱振軍圖全集陳金輝凍結一千萬元六堅果等凍結五百萬元完整區等凍結一百萬元一五七出勤券等辦理幼兒專責醫師制度等計劃媒體政策及業務宣導檢列二百九十萬元凍結十萬元一五八出勤券等 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
3688.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
3692.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
建構國家安全化學與韌性永續計劃動機二十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
3694.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3720.915 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
159廖偉祥等案日案件祭支酬金凍結二十分之三160出行人等任性國家醫療整備計劃凍結二分之一161曾經會玩運品曾招資柯木桐160凍結二分之一162廖偉祥等任性國家醫療整備計劃資訊服務費凍結二百萬元163廖偉祥等案日案件祭支酬金凍結三百三十萬元164廖偉祥等 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
3721.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3725.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
任性國家醫療整備計劃業務費委辦費凍結3000萬元165遼委員等任性國家醫療整備計劃國外旅費凍結181萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
3734.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3759.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
166廖偉強羅志強等考察暫時醫療體系運作與韌性全數凍結167廖偉強羅志強等考察民防及全民防衛系統中醫療整備凍結二分之一168至173健康台灣投資醫療永續發展成因等檢列五百萬元凍結二千萬元劉建國等檢列一百萬元凍結五百萬元蘇慶泉等凍結二分之一凍結十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
3760.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
3784.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
曾經會王育敏曾昭芝凍結十分之一王振旭等凍結一百萬元一七四盧憲一等健康臺灣投資醫療永續發展獎補助費減列三億元一七五曾經會王育敏曾昭芝社會責任醫療永續推廣維穩及重症照護凍結二十分之三一七六出境人等辦理投資醫療永續發展相關專案管理費媒體政策及業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
3786.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3799.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
剪裂110萬元凍結10萬元177 178心理及口腔健康業務林月琴等凍結150萬元179王雲明等心理及口腔業務媒體政策及業務宣導費剪裂500萬元180圖全基等柯木桐179凍結十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
3803.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3822.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
181曾經會王玉敏曾昭芝心理健康行政管理凍結二十分之三182獨全集等柯木桐181凍結十分之一183至186整合及提升心理健康服務蘇清泉等凍結十分之一曾經會王玉敏曾昭芝凍結二十分之一林淑芬等凍結二千萬元邱振軍曾經會獨全集凍結一千萬元187187盧眷依等 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
3824.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3841.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
整合及提升心理健康服務委辦費檢列3000万元188至190強化藥引治療服務出行員等凍結十分之一陳清輝王玉敏陳昭芝凍結二十分之一邱振英涂全及陳清輝凍結一千萬元191盧倩依等強化藥引治療服務委辦費檢列500萬元192劉建國等 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
3844.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3871.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
強化社會安全網减劣100萬元凍結500萬元193曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝柯木桐192凍結20分之1194盧憲英徐欣盈等辦理疑似或社區精神病人照護優化及精神病友多元社區生活方案發展計劃等凍結3000萬元195至197國民口腔健康促進計劃第二期促進券等凍結10分之1曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝凍結10分之1蔡曾經土權及曾經輝凍結1000萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
3874.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
3898.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
198如現一等國民口腔健康促進計劃第二期委辦費減列三千萬元199陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝新南向醫衛合作與產業鏈發展中長城計劃第二期凍結十分之一2001如現一等新南向醫衛合作與產業鏈發展中長城計劃第二期委辦費減列八百萬元201陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝強化精神醫療及社區資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
3899.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
3920.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
動結二十分之三二零二王玉敏等科目同二零一動結五百萬元二零三陳昭芝等優化偏鄉醫療精進計劃第二期動結二分之一二零四盧憲一等優化偏鄉醫療精進計劃第二期獎補助費前述簡列二零五陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝優化兒童精神醫療及口腔照護支援動結十分之一二零六至二零九 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
3920.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
3942.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
國家癌症繁殖及品質改善計畫劉建國等檢列一百萬元凍結二百萬元曾經為王玉敏陳昭芝凍結二十分之三王玉敏等凍結二千萬元王正旭等凍結一百萬元二一零儲全集等護理及健康照護業務優惠凍結一千萬元二一一王玉敏等護理及健康照護業務媒體政策及業務宣導費檢列三百萬元二一一二曾因 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
3943.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
3943.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
3962.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
3990.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
護理法規與護理人員及機構管理凍結十分之一二一七陳昭之等護理法規與護理人員及機構管理委辦費凍結五分之一二一八至二二五護理人力政策整備中產層計劃曾經會王宇敏陳昭之凍結二十分之三蘇慶泉等圖泉基等陳英等各凍結十分之一車政經圖泉基曾經會凍結五千萬元王宇敏等凍結二千萬元林玥琴等凍結一百五十萬元王振旭等凍結五十萬元二二六圖泉基等 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
3991.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
4015.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
護理人力政策整備中長程計劃業務費凍結五分之一227陳金輝等科目同226凍結十分之一228五六七天一等護理人力政策整備中長程計劃委辦費減列三千萬元229陳金輝王玉敏陳昭之建構完善住院整合照護服務及輔佐人力制度凍結五分之一二三零圖全集等科目同二三零凍結二十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
4017.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
4031.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
二三一曾經會完免曾招資中醫藥業務凍結五分之一二三二至二三五成因等中醫中藥規劃及管理檢列一百萬元凍結三百萬元新南向醫衛合作與產業鏈發展中產成計劃第二期凍結一百萬元促進中藥 |
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4032.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
4047.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
三產業輔導及記憶傳承等委辦費凍結一百五十萬元健康臺灣中醫多元人才培育檢定三百萬元凍結五百萬元236曾慶輝王玉敏陳昭芝綜合歸外業務凍結十分之一237王玉敏等 |
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4047.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
4063.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
綜合規劃業務媒體政策及業務宣導費簡列360萬元238曾經威等綜合規劃業務企劃重要政策業務費凍結十分之一239曾經威王玉敏陳昭芝維護及增進追蹤管制與部長電子信箱系統等簡列十分之一凍結五分之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
4064.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
4092.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
二四零二十一曾昭之等強化衛生福利政策及重要措施宣導媒體政策及業務宣導凍結十分之一二四二如千一等衛生與社會福利統計及調查分析資訊服務費減裂一千萬元二四三如千一等衛生與社會福利統計及調查分析委辦費減裂一千萬元二四四曾慶輝王玉敏曾昭之衛生福利人員訓練凍結二十分之三二四五至二四七打造永續共好地方創生計劃尼瑞琴等 |
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4093.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
4117.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
王振旭章雅琳等邱振英涂謙吉陳金輝各凍結一百萬元二十八盧憲一等打造永續共好地方創生計劃獎補助費減列一千五百萬元二十九陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝國際衛生業務凍結二十分之三二五零劉建國等藍向一為合作與產業鏈發展中產人計劃第二期減列一百萬元凍結一百萬元二五一王玉敏等柯木桐二五零 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
4119.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
4127.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
凍結500萬元252曾經會完預名曾招資健康台灣醫療影像AI應用計劃凍結20分之一253曾經會完預名曾招資醫院營運業務凍結20分之三254至2526醫院營運輔導劉建國等檢列200萬元凍結500萬元曾招資等凍結10分之一完預名等凍結1000萬元257曾營運等醫院營運輔導業務費凍結100萬元 |
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4143.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
4157.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
258途群集等克木童257凍結二十分之一259劉建國等推動資訊業務等所需費用減列50萬元260陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝醫藥藥品基金凍結十分之一主決議261 262林月琴等263 264林月琴林益錦等 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
4163.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
4179.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
265、266、黃秀芳、何新存等267、王振旭、林俊憲等268、林月琴、徐富奎等269、盧倩依等270至275、王振旭、張雅琳等276至285、王振旭、蘇巧慧等286至288、陳昭芝等 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
4182.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
4208.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
289 完整序陳培於等290 邱振軍陳金輝圖全集291 292 蘇清泉盧憲一王玉米293 陳寅吳立華等294 完整序陳寅林月琴295 至300陳寅等301 完整序陳寅林月琴302 完整序陳培於等303 陳金輝等304 至306 完整序等307 劉建國等308 完整序陳寅林月琴科技業務凍結100萬元309 蘇清泉等 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
4211.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
4217.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
防疫科技發展研究及科技管理凍結三一零曾慶輝王育敏陳昭芝柯木桐三零九凍結一 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
4219.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
4245.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
三一一如前一等防疫科技發展研究及科技管理委辦費檢列一千萬元三一二陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝新常態創新臨床試驗環境提升計劃凍結二十分之一三一三蘇清泉等建構智慧防疫新生活行動計劃檢列一千萬元凍結五分之一三一四陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝柯木桐三一三凍結二十分之三三一五陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝衛服業務數位轉型服務躍升計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
4248.221 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
4268.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
動輒十分之一三一六曾經會王玉敏陳昭芝一般行政動輒二十分之三三一七至三一九基本行政工作維持書記權等檢列三百五十萬元動輒十分之一劉建國等檢列二十一萬八千元動輒一百萬元書記權等檢列一百四十萬元三二零陳昭芝等基本行政工作維持水電費檢列五百萬元三二一書記權等 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
4269.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
4283.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
研發替代役凍結十分之一322至324防疫業務陳金輝、王育敏、陳昭芝檢驗二十分之一陳金輝等凍結四分之一林月琦等凍結一百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
4285.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
4300.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
325委員曾經會王玉敏曾召之提案防疫業務傳染病防治及應變規劃凍結五分之一326至328為急性傳染病流行風險監控與管理第四期計劃第326案委員曾經會王玉敏曾召之提案凍結五分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
4301.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
4317.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
三二七委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一三二八委員邱振軍蘇清泉廖偉祥提案凍結一百萬元三二九委員盧仙怡等提案柯木桐三二六案向下業務費減裂五百萬元三三零委員蘇清泉等提案防疫業務新型傳染病 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
4341.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
及流感大流行應變整備及邊境檢疫計劃凍結十分之一331委員秋正軍廖偉祥蘇清泉提案柯木桐330案凍結五百萬元332委員盧憲一等提案柯木桐330案向下業務費檢列五千萬元333委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭志提案充實國家疫苗基金凍結二十分之一334委員圖全集等提案柯木桐333 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
4342.628 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
4368.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
按向下對特種基金支補助凍結二十分之一335至339為國家及防疫一體抗生素抗藥性管理行動計劃第335案委員蘇清泉盧倩依王育敏提案凍結十分之一336委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝提案凍結十分之一337委員王育敏等提案凍結一千萬元338委員邱振軍蘇清泉廖偉翔提案凍結五百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
4370.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
4390.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
339委員王振旭曾迎林月琴提案凍結100萬元。340委員曾經輝王育敏曾招資提案後新冠疫情時代傳染病檢驗網絡計劃凍結十分之一。341委員邱政軍廖偉翔蘇清泉提案科牧童340案凍結500萬元。342委員曾經輝王育敏曾招資提案肺炎補償慰問經費凍結10萬元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
4393.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
4420.289 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
343委員曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案一般建築及設備營建工程凍結二十分之三344至346為主決議344委員蘇清泉等提案345委員盧仙怡徐欣盈等提案346委員王振旭陳盈林月琴提案食品藥物管理署347委員黃秀芳等提案科技業務凍結一千萬元348至350為委員曾經輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
4420.809 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
4434.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
三四八案藥物供需與智慧預警分析劑核酸藥物關鍵製造資訊服務費檢列245萬元三四九科木桐三四八案關鍵製造向下約用人員酬金檢列200萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
4435.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4453.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
三五零科牧童三四八案關鍵製造向下資訊軟硬體設備費檢列五百萬元三五一委員陳昭芝等提案管制藥品及藥物濫用防治研究委辦費凍結五分之一三五二委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案科牧童三五一案凍結十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
4455.387 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
4469.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
353至356為經濟我國食品安全科技研究第353案委員陳盈等提案檢列300萬元凍結600萬元354委員盧憲一等提案凍結五分之一355委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
4472.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
4497.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
356委員丘正鈞土泉及陳金輝提案凍結500萬元357日359委委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭之提案357案柯木桐353案向下約用人員酬金凍結350萬元358柯木桐353向下委辦費凍結800萬元359辦理食藥新媒體傳播分析研究食安大數據剖析應用與風險管控等業務凍結100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
4499.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
4512.454 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
360委員林淑芬等提案食品藥物化妝品安全整合研究凍結1000萬元360委員陳盈等提案為延期食品法規政策及辦理食品安全之管理能力等業務檢列100萬元凍結300萬元360委員陳昭芝等提案新常態創新臨床試驗及動物實驗替代科技研究水電費檢列70萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
4523.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
4549.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
363委員陳昭芝等提案一般行政水電費檢列300萬元364委員蘇清泉等提案基本行政工作維持費水電費檢列250萬元凍結十分之一365至372為食品藥物管理業務食品管理工作委員王振旭賴會員等提案各凍結1000萬元373至377為食品管理工作食品安全衛生管理373委員劉建國等提案檢列200萬元凍結200萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
4552.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
4574.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
374委員楊耀等提案檢列一百萬元凍結三百萬元375委員楊耀等提案檢列一百萬元凍結三百萬元376委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案凍結十分之一377委員王玉敏廖偉祥陳昭芝提案凍結五百萬元378委員陳昭芝陳金輝廖偉祥提案食品安全衛生管理委辦費凍結二百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
4576.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
4601.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
379委員盧憲一等提案食品檢驗檢列十分之一。380委員曾經惠王玉敏陳昭芝提案食品檢驗水電費凍結十分之一。381至389為食品邊境查驗及國內外稽查管理。381為委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一。382委員盧憲一等提案凍結十分之一。383委員廖偉祥等提案凍結十分之一。384委員林淑芬等提案凍結三千萬元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
4602.885 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
4615.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
385至388委委員王振旭賴會員等提案各凍結二千萬元389委員邱振均圖存及陳金輝提案凍結一千萬元390至391委委員圖存及等提案柯木桐381向下業務費390凍結五分之一391凍結十分之一392委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝提案柯木桐390向下委辦費凍結十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
4627.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4641.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
393至394委員盧憲一等提案科目為食品安全風險管理393凍結二分之一394凍結五分之一395至401為食安卓越深耕395委員楊耀等提案簡列300萬元凍結300萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
4644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
4664.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
399.6委員劉建國等提案檢列200萬元凍結200萬元397委員李淑芬等提案凍結4千萬元398委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一399委員盧仙怡等提案凍結十分之一400委員王玉敏廖偉翔陳昭芝提案凍結2千萬元401委員邱正均圖泉及陳金輝提案凍結1千萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
4666.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
4690.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
402至405為委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭之提案402科目同395向下水電費凍結二分之一403科目同395向下約用人員酬金凍結二分之一404科目同395向下委辦費凍結二分之一405辦理食品安全正確認知食品廣告監控及衛民服務專線等業務凍結十分之一406委員王正旭等提案藥裝管理工作凍結十分十萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
4692.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4704.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
407委員陳昭芝陳金輝廖偉祥提案藥妝企劃及安全風險管理委辦費檢列500萬元408至414為藥品及管制藥品管理計劃408委員楊耀等提案檢列300萬元凍結500萬元409委員劉建國等提案檢列100萬元凍結100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
4711.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
4726.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
410委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一411委員王玉明廖偉祥陳昭芝提案凍結二千萬元412委員陳穎等提案凍結五百萬元413委員邱振軍屠權及陳金輝提案凍結一百萬元414委員王振旭等提案凍結一百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
4727.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
4749.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
四一五至四一七同四零五八案向下為辦費四零八委員陳昭芝陳金輝廖偉祥提案檢列五百萬元凍結二分之一四一六委員陳昭芝等提案凍結二分之一四一七委員陳昭芝陳金輝廖偉祥提案凍結五分之一四一八至四二二為強化醫療器材及化妝品管理效能四一八委員黎淑芬等提案凍結四千萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
4750.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
4772.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
四一九委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一四二零委員盧先一等提案凍結十分之一四二一委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭思提案凍結十分之一四二二委員邱振軍徒淳及陳金輝提案凍結五百萬元四二三委員廖偉祥等提案同四一八向下業務費凍結十分之三四二四委員王振旭陳盈林月琴提案毒品防治凍結十萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
4773.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
4796.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
四二五至四三零為經經藥物及化妝品全生命週期管理第三期計劃四二五委員劉建國等提案檢列一百萬元凍結一百萬元四二六委員劉建國等提案檢列一百萬元凍結一百萬元四二七委員盧憲義等提案凍結十分之一四二八委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝提案凍結十分之一四二九委員林淑芬等提案凍結二千萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
4797.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4813.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
四三零委員秋政軍徒全級陳金輝提案凍結一千萬元四三一委員陳昭志等提案同四二五向下為半倍檢列五百萬元凍結二十分之三四三二委員陳盈等提案辦理管制藥品管理及藥物濫用防治等業務檢列一百四十萬元凍結五百萬元 |
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4815.405 |
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4830.672 |
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433委員黃秀芳和新淳等提案主決議中央健康保險署434委員蘇清泉等提案媒體政策及業務宣導費凍結二分之一435委員黃秀芳等提案科技業務凍結一千萬元436委員林月琴等提案科技業務凍結一百萬元 |
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4832.814 |
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4852.712 |
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437委員陳昭芝等提案科技業務水電費減列50萬元438委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案持續提供高品質健保服務凍結五分之一439委員王玉敏等提案科目同438案凍結500萬元440委員蘇清泉等提案辦理健康保險服務精進業務等所需水電費減列30萬元凍結十分之一 |
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4856.496 |
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4878.482 |
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441委員蘇清泉等提案建保大數據數位應用計劃凍結五分之一442委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案科木同441案凍結五分之一443委員蘇清泉等提案辦理建保大數據數位應用計劃所需水電費檢列十萬元凍結十分之一444委員王真旭等提案建保資料價值提升計劃凍結五十萬元 |
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4880.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
4897.291 |
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四四五委員蘇清璇等提案辦理推動臺灣生醫健康資料整合應用及促進真實世界數據合規應用等計劃所需水電費檢列20萬元凍結十分之一四四六委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭斯提案一般行政基本行政工作維持凍結十分之一 |
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4898.452 |
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4911.811 |
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447委員陳昭芝等提案科木童446案凍結11萬4千元448委員盧憲一等提案基本行政工作維持設備及投資減列1000萬元449委員蘇清泉等提案辦公大樓水電費減列60萬元凍結十分之一 |
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4914.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
4921.537 |
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455委員林月晴等提案建保業務凍結150451委員邱正軍廖偉祥蘇清泉提案建保城堡規劃及管理凍結500452至454為醫務管理推動督導452委員林淑芬等提案凍結300453委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝提案凍結1454委員林月晴等提案凍結500 |
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4937.785 |
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4958.699 |
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455委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案推動一省及藥材作業凍結五分之一456委員盧仙怡等提案同455向下業務費減列一百萬元457委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案健保資訊服務凍結五分之一458委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案健保政策規劃與推展凍結五分之一 |
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4959.78 |
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4975.84 |
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459委員陳昭芝陳金輝廖偉翔提案科牧童458向下委辦費凍結十分之一。460委員蘇清泉等提案保費收繳及醫療費用和付作業減列400萬元凍結十分之一。461委員林月琴等提案科牧童460案凍結150萬元。 |
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4978.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
5006.073 |
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462委員曾經會王育敏曾招資提案同460向下業務費凍結五分之一463委員蘇清泉等提案辦理承保業務保費收繳及醫療費用和付等所需水電費減列五百萬元凍結十分之一464委員蘇清泉等提案新南向依未合作與產業鏈發展中長程計劃第二期減列五百萬元465委員曾經曾經會王育敏曾招資提案科目同464案凍結十分之一 |
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5007.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
5016.306 |
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466委員曾經規王育敏曾招資提案健康台灣導入智慧醫療凍結十分之一467至469為健保醫療平權數位升級計劃467委員邱振軍廖偉祥蘇清泉提案檢列500萬元凍結500萬元 |
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5023.214 |
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5044.82 |
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468委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一469委員王玉敏等提案凍結二千萬元470委員涂泉吉等提案同467向下業務費凍結十分之一471委員曾經惠王玉敏成招資提案同467向下資訊服務費凍結五分之一472委員盧憲一等提案同467向下委辦費減列五千萬元 |
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5047.012 |
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5069.97 |
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473委員盧先一等提案同467向下設備及投資減列1億元474委員蘇清泉等提案辦理健保醫療平權數位升級計劃所需水電費減列150萬元凍結十分之一475至477為完善健保醫療費用總額及給付機制475委員陳昭芝等提案凍結十分之一476委員邱振軍廖偉翔蘇清泉提案凍結500萬元477委員劉建國等提案凍結500萬元 |
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5073.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
5096.919 |
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478至479同475向下為半倍478委員陳昭芝等提案檢列五百萬元凍結五百萬元479委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案凍結十分之三480委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案同475向下一般事務費凍結五分之一481委員邱政軍廖偉祥蘇清泉提案辦理輸注液及沖洗液藥品供應穩定專案等凍結二億元482至494為主決議 |
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5101.261 |
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5117.803 |
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482委員王玉敏等提案483委員蘇清純等提案484委員黃秀芳等提案485委員陳盈等提案486至488委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案489委員劉建國等提案490至491委員王正旭等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
5140.691 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
494949494949 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
5145.294 |
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5165.606 |
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501委員王振旭陳盈玲月琴提案凍結100萬元502委員王振旭陳盈玲月琴提案凍結10萬元503至505為全人健康促進與陳癮防治研究503委員陳金輝等提案凍結十分之一504委員林淑芬等提案凍結1000萬元505委員王育敏廖偉祥陳昭芝提案凍結500萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
5167.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
5189.782 |
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506委員蘇清泉等提案已曝顯科學技術建構精準環境與健康凍結十分之一507委員陳金輝等提案科目同506案凍結十分之一508委員蘇清泉等提案數位賦能推動銀髮世代社會連結計劃簡列200萬元凍結二分之一509委員陳金輝等提案科目同508案凍結十分之一 |
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5190.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
5215.854 |
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510至513為推動國民健康場域應用計劃510委員蘇清泉等提案檢列300萬元511委員林淑芬等提案凍結300萬元512委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一513委員陳金輝等提案凍結十分之一514委員蘇清泉等提案健康大數據治理及標準化凍結十分之三515委員陳金輝等提案柯木桐五一四案凍結十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
5216.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
5231.108 |
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五一六委員陳金輝等提案一般行政基本行政工作維持凍結十分之一五一七委員蘇清泉等提案基本行政工作維持水電費減劣15萬元凍結十分之一五一八委員林淑芬等提案基本行政工作維持費特別費純數減劣 |
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5233.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
5250.572 |
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五一九委員廖偉祥羅志強等提案科目同五一八案凍結二分之一五二零委員蘇清泉林倩琦等提案國民健康業務凍結二十分之一五二一委員王振旭陳寅林月琴提案科目同五二零案凍結一百萬元五二二委員涂淳琦等提案國民健康業務業務費凍結十分之一 |
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5252.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
5268.773 |
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五二三委員陳金輝等提案復幼健康保健凍結十分之一五二四委員王正旭等提案柯木桐五二三案凍結十萬元五二五至五三五為成人及中老年保健第五二五委員邱振鈞徒淳及陳金輝提案簡列一億元凍結一千萬元 |
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5270.114 |
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5298.337 |
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五二六委員楊耀等提案檢列三百萬元凍結五百萬元五二七委員林淑芬等提案凍結五分之一五二八委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一五二九委員陳金輝等提案凍結十分之一五三零委員陳金輝等提案凍結二十分之一五三一委員盧憲英蘇清泉等提案凍結三千萬元五三二委員陳瑩等提案凍結三千萬元五三三委員王玉敏等提案凍結一千萬元五三四委員邱振軍屠權及陳金輝提案凍結一千萬元 |
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5318.838 |
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五三五委員劉建國等提案凍結五百萬元五三六委員陳昭志等提案同五二五鄉下委辦費凍結十分之一五三七委員涂泉吉等提案二零二五消除C型肝炎計劃二零二四至二零二五年凍結十分之一五三八委員陳金輝等提案郵政患者健康照護凍結十分之一 |
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5319.438 |
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5348.067 |
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五三九至五四八為我國少子女化對策計劃第五三九案委員邱正均徒全及陳金輝提案檢列一千萬元凍結一千萬元五四零委員楊耀等提案檢列三百萬元凍結三百萬元五四一委員蘇清泉等提案凍結十分之一五四二委員陳金輝等提案凍結十分之一五四三委員陳盈等提案凍結二億元五四四委員陳昭芝等提案凍結二十分之一五四五委員王玉敏廖偉翔陳昭芝提案凍結二千萬元 |
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5348.747 |
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5377.538 |
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五四六委員林月琴等提案凍結三百萬元五四七委員陳金輝等提案凍結三百萬元五四八委員劉建國等提案凍結二百萬元五四九委員林月琴范雲等提案友善生養的健康措施凍結五百萬元五五零至五五七為提高國家重要癌症篩檢五五零委員邱振軍陳金輝圖存及提案檢列一億元凍結五千萬元五五五一委員楊耀等提案檢列三百萬元凍結五百萬元 |
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5394.813 |
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552委員陳盈等提案檢列200萬元凍結1000萬元553委員陳金輝等提案凍結十分之一554委員盧憲一等提案凍結3000萬元555委員林淑芬等提案凍結3000萬元556委員王月明等提案凍結1000萬元557委員劉建國等提案凍結500萬元558至559委員蘇清泉等提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
5424.297 |
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科目為第5期國家癌症防治計畫各凍結十分之一560至566案為主決議560委員邱振軍蘇清泉盧憲一提案561至562為委員黃秀芳等提案563委員陳盈等提案564委員王振旭等提案565委員王振旭蘇巧慧等提案566委員林月琴等提案社會及家庭署567委員黃秀芳等提案社會及家庭署凍結1000萬元 |
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5426.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
5453.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
568委員王振旭陳盈玲月琴提案科技業務凍結10萬元569至571委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭思提案569民間資源提升數位效能計劃凍結五分之一570社會福利分析模型計劃凍結二十分之三571數位身心障礙證明規劃及全國身心障礙福利資訊整合平台系統改版計劃凍結五分之一572委員陳昭思等提案柯木桐571案凍結十分之一 |
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5454.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
5477.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
573至576委委員曾慶輝王玉敏陳趙姿提案573超高齡社會之數位與生活計劃檢列二十分之一凍結二十分之三5740至17歲兒少靜態動態人體計策調查計劃檢列二十分之一凍結二十分之三575一般行政人員維持檢列二十分之一凍結二十分之三576基本行政工作維持檢列五百萬元凍結一千萬元 |
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5479.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
5497.182 |
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五七七至五八零為社會福利服務業務五七七至五七九為委員林月晴等提案五七七凍結一百五十萬元五七八凍結一百五十萬元五七九凍結五十萬元五八零委員王振旭承認林月晴提案凍結十萬元 |
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5499.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5524.77 |
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581委員．政軍徒存及陳金輝提案同577向下媒體政策及業務宣導費檢列一百萬元凍結五十萬元582委員陳金輝王玉敏陳超資提案推展社會福利綜合企劃及婦女福利服務凍結二十分之三583至590為推展老人福利服務583委員楊耀等提案檢列三百萬元凍結三百萬元584委員盧憲一徐欣盈等提案凍結十分之三 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
5525.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
5540.277 |
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五八五委員徒春吉等提案凍結五分之一五八六委員盧憲毅等提案凍結十分之一五八七委員陳昭芝等提案凍結十分之一五八八委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案凍結十分之一五八九委員陳盈武立華等提案凍結一百萬元 |
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5541.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
5563.964 |
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五九零委員王振旭陳盈玲月琴提案凍結十萬元五九一委員陳昭志等提案同583向下委辦費凍結二十分之三五九二委員邱振均圖存及陳金輝提案辦理強化獨居老人關懷服務凍結二千萬元五九三至601為推展身心障礙者福利服務五九三委員楊耀等提案檢列三百萬元凍結五百萬元 |
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5566.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
5587.556 |
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594 委員陳金輝、王玉敏、陳昭芝提案凍結二十分之三。595 委員盧憲義等提案凍結十分之一。596 至599委委員林月琴、范雲等提案各凍結五百萬元。600 委員劉建國等提案凍結二百萬元。601 委員林月琴等提案凍結一百五十萬元。602 委員陳昭芝等提案同593向下委辦費凍結十分之一。 |
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603委員蘇清泉林倩琦等提案身心障礙照顧服務資源部件計劃凍結十分之一604委員邱振均圖存及陳金輝提案科目同603案凍結一千萬元605至608委推展兒童及少年福利服務605委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝提案凍結二十分之三606委員王育敏廖偉祥陳昭芝提案凍結五百萬元 |
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607委員林月晴等提案凍結50萬元608委員王振旭陳培宇等提案凍結50萬元609至612委推展家庭支持服務609委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭志提案凍結二十分之三610委員劉建國等提案凍結200萬元611委員林月晴等提案凍結50萬元612委員邱振軍屠村及陳金輝提案凍結50萬元 |
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613委員陳昭芝等提案同609向下委辦被凍結二十分之三614至620為我國少子女化對策計劃614委員楊耀等提案檢列三百萬元凍結五百萬元615委員陳金輝王玉敏陳昭芝提案凍結二十分之三616委員王玉敏廖偉翔陳昭芝提案凍結一千萬元617委員邱振軍屠權及陳金輝 |
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提案凍結一千萬元618委員林月琴等提案凍結五百萬元619委員林月琴等提案凍結一百萬元620委員王振旭陳寅林月琴提案凍結十萬元621委員邱振軍徒全及陳金輝提案辦理托育公共及准公共化服務及托育管理業務凍結一千萬元622至625為強化社會安全網622委員陳金輝王育敏陳昭芝提案檢列二十分之一凍結二十分之三 |
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623委員王玉敏、廖偉祥、陳昭芝提案凍結1000萬元624委員林月琴等提案凍結300萬元625委員林月琴等提案凍結50萬元626至628同622向下業務費626委員廖偉祥、羅志強等提案凍結10分之3627委員陳昭芝等提案凍結10分之1628委員涂全琦等提案凍結10分之1629至633為主決議629委員陳瑩等提案 |
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630至633委員王振旭張雅玲等提案國家中醫藥研究所634委員黃秀芳等提案國家中醫藥研究所凍結一千萬元635委員陳清輝等提案科技業務中藥在肺部疾病之整合研究凍結五分之一636委員陳清輝等提案中醫藥介入對老年症候群之影響凍結五分之一637委員蘇清泉等提案一般行政基本行政工作維持簡列130萬元凍結十分之一 |
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638委員：邱振軍：廖偉翔：蘇清泉提案科目同637案凍結一百萬元639委員：蘇清泉等提案同637向下水電費減列40萬元凍結十分之一640委員：陳昭思圖泉及盧倩依提案研究及實驗水電費減列五萬元641委員：陳清輝等提案藥物研究與實驗凍結五分之一 |
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5793.644 |
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62委員陳慶輝等提案新南向依為合作於產業鏈發展中長城計劃第二期凍結五分之一643委員蘇清泉等提案解說教育與推廣水電費減列一萬元凍結十分之一644委員邱振軍蘇清泉廖偉祥提案中醫藥振興計劃凍結一百萬元645委員蘇清泉等提案同644案向下的水電費凍結二分之一 |
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六四六案委員蘇清泉等提案科目同六四四案動解十分之一宣讀完畢 |
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法定人數不足 |
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好我們現在開始齁我先跟大家報告因為案子很多很多齁 |
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我們中午就休息20分鐘啦大家吃便當然後希望今天的4點結束休息明天第二輪我們希望在中午之前能不能結束大家變快一點因為這個大部分都溝通了啦好我們現在就開始 |
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主席我有一程序上的建議好你講謝謝主席我剛剛我們舉辦了黨舉辦了這個對WF80調查報告案的這個記者會就是說他到送到各個委員會的這個調查報告 |
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那因為部長也承諾過如果我們不滿意的話這個你會重新再處理不好意思我們覺得這是中學生的報告他不是調查報告他是一份袒護報告所以我在這裡而且我也提出在記者會上我也我就在這裡不要耽誤各位委員的時間就是說我有非常據實的提出了一些資料跟佐證那我這裡要求邱部長還有呂市長今天在席嗎 |
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我先要求你們兩個第一個要跟全國人民公開道歉為了霸凌案要跟大家道歉那第二個就是說有關這個目前調查報告用你們可以遮蔽所謂的辨識資料的方式公開 |
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然後重啟調查因為我們有太多的資料跟太多的問題點就針對我們看到的報告第二個就請你們這樣做否則否則我要求召委今天停止審查這個衛福部的預算或是陳昭之如果大家要互含互短那陳昭之所有的提案都是保留不予協商好謝謝主席 |
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他先道歉 |
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我希望是整個停止審查這個衛福部預算如果大家要互含互短覺得不願意這樣做的話那我的部分我的部分就停止協商就就是這樣好謝謝 |
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非常感謝陳委員的指教是不是我們李處長要不要先回應一下因為今天調查小組的那個他如果需要的話他晚一點來跟大家報告也可以 |
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先跟各位委員自我介紹我是衛福部人事處長李玉慧那我就是在上次遵循我們衛福委員會的那個決議就是為了要保護 |
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同仁也保護相關的我們有去識別化然後決議是請我們去識別化後將所有的調查報告然後侵蝕到各委員的辦公室讓委員委員予以審視那目前 |
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我們在衛環委員會的15位委員中我們已經跟11位委員報告過那第二點的部分是我們部長還有次長還有應該是我們所有部的部的立場都是這樣如果有新的市政出來而且而且是而且是那個而且是申請的應該是講說陳情人 |
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主席請容許我做簡單的補充 |
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你這個當時資料給我看了幾眼然後就帶走你要幸虧我們還有強記的能力第一個你在做調查案當中你針對譬如我以劉奕娟因為每個人看的重點會沒有辦法全看以劉奕娟的部分你有140份的那個匿名問卷 |
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但是有811.114的人不願意不願意被受訪當然他們理由後來有種種理由因為怕被秋後算帳那最後你看到我們的沒有霸凌曾經霸凌經常霸凌或總是霸凌的部分你幾個問卷大概有百分之五百分之三成以上都大概就就五十幾份都寫出有霸凌結果你最後訪談了17人 |
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主席,我們是不是可以先准到他的單位來刪或來動?啊那你還沒得到審理審啊?你尊重我的發言權!我已經被主席同意!我已經被主席同意!主席!你要給他刪除就刪除!我要提出!我要提出!我今天為什麼要做成績檢驗?如果!如果! |
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6444.228 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
衛生福利部主管公務預算部分 |
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你不開我們就大家開了討論有什麼意義你說全部保留這樣不要死沒意思啊你就要霸凌我們大家嘛你對那個單位的霸凌報告不滿意你就給他檢列你就給他凍結討論到他那個單位你就直接處理人家要審預算要程序要開始你不讓我們開始你不讓我們開始審預算你一個人說了算你不是在霸凌我們嗎 |
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你一個人說了算你是老大我們要審預算啦部長你自己決定你要不要先道歉然後答應重啟調查然後反而報告我們要審預算啦部長你如果要道歉你快道歉啦我們要審預算啦報不到歉是你的事啦我們要審預算啦來啦我們請部長講一下我們就開始了 |
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這都一切按規定處理依法辦理我想這個一開始我們就真的那個絕對站在這個我們絕不護短那還是要跟大家報告我們這個調查委員在李建德次長召集之下真的也邀集了四位外聘的我想我們陳昭日委員是我尊敬的前輩我們差不多同期我們共同這些人來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
沒有人可以講解嗎? |
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好啦 我也要回應表現誠意啦 我的意思說我們過去在衛福部做這麼多幾十年的委員 今天我們沒有相信那個委員會的專業 那我們兩個過去幾十年來為衛福部做的這些不是都是沒有意義嗎 對不對 所以我覺得說國有國家的制度 我們一切按照制度來進行 那提出的報告如果說也按照上禮拜書 |
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我非常用心的看了你的報告但又被帶走了那如果其他的委員不願意用我同樣的鼓勵你可以可以多看一句道歉都沒有 |
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好 |
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第一案改組決議通過 第一案 |
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第二案的部分的話謝謝邱正鈞委員這邊已經取得委員簽名改動一百萬元動一百萬好通過三四五萬是差不多同性質的吼那本來寫郭通宗阿現在呢 |
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現在的部分的話那個委員是因為這個主要是在做所謂的媒體業務宣傳費我們這邊新增的重點有三項第一項是因為我們的優化兒童醫療網這個部分有一些加強不管是對兒童的一個家長的宣導或者是說對於服務這個的介紹 |
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6719.339 |
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然後那第二項的話是新增的是針對健康台灣深耕計畫因為這個是讓醫院很清楚瞭解知道是說我們怎麼從button up的部分讓原本已經就是被健保框架的一個醫療運作體系裡面知道是說有一個活水可以運用然後針對的是四大構面他可以在人才的部分去做留任的部分 |
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除了是說過去大家想的薪資以外整個環境的建置這邊希望也能夠做改善甚至導入AI智慧醫療在運用的時候這也是需要有一些說明跟引導的部分最後一個我們新增的部分其實是針對善中三百就是說針對了病主器捐還有就是安寧的這一塊 |
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所以第三案已經改 |
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還沒有取得委員的簽名還在溝通當中嘛對345那就先保留來第6案第6案的部分謝謝邱正俊委員我們取得委員的同意改組決議好那改組決議嘛通過第7案第7案的部分謝謝陳金輝委員也取得委員簽名改組決議好第7案改組決議通過第8案 |
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第8案的部分的話謝謝蘇清泉委員以取得簽名改組決議好第8案改組決議通過第9案第9案謝謝邱政軍委員以取得委員簽名改組決議好那第9案就改組決議通過第10案第10案謝謝蘇委員的同意以取得委員簽名改組決議好第10案通過11案 |
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6829.11 |
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11案謝謝邱委員取得委員同意改組決議12案陳穎的謝謝陳委員的支持已經取得委員的簽名改組決議12案改組決議通過13 14 15 16 |
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6852.57 |
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呃13剛剛陳昭智委員說要保留凍結先保留14案謝謝黃雀雙委員那已經呃取得委員的簽名改凍結100萬 |
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主席我對於我們的署長即將退休喔他來回答我就覺得說是要除了預算省得下去嗎你是不是要離開要退休了抱歉你不是抱歉我看錯人了抱歉抱歉抱歉欸你跟他長得很像欸但是現在是為了我看錯人我給你道歉我給你道歉我道歉喔謝謝 |
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目前還沒到食藥署啦所以剛剛14案是已取得黃秀芳委員的簽名那改凍結100萬黃秀芳凍結100萬送過15案林月琴委員謝謝那個林月琴委員已經取得委員的簽名改凍結10萬 |
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凍結10萬塊好通過16案王振旭委員這個對這邊我再確認一下因為我們知道在過來所有的資訊AI以後一定要一致化而且是要全國一致啦以前的問題就是都這樣自己每一個部會做自己的一些資訊的內容結果後來非常難整合所以在這個部分一定要麻煩 |
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我們的技術總監科技發展在這邊一定要全國一致啊不然你再出大麻煩你那溝通比較小聲啊兩年之後的部署我們現在的重點就是我們FIRE的我們這個資訊整合平台裡面去處理了這個我們李建章處長這邊他已經承諾現在是我們的未來的一個重點讓未來這個醫院的系統都可以用FIRE的格式來統一這個也讓請委員放心好這個我們會做齁 |
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黃勝熙委員第16案是共結10萬遵照辦理就報告再說啦通過17案陳清威委員謝謝陳清威委員我們已經取得委員的同意該組決議 |
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改組決議好那就通過18案盧憲一謝謝盧憲一委員我們已取得委員的簽名那同意改組決議好改組決議通過19案盧憲一委員也是謝謝盧憲一委員我們已取得委員的簽名也同意改組決議好 |
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這個科技的啦好那20案20號也謝謝蘇昭偉剛剛已經獲得您的同意改組決議也簽名了好改組決議好通過21案陳欣慧委員是21案是社公司那我們已經跟委辦溝通那也取得委員的簽名同意改為組決議好陳欣慧委員改組決議通過22案劉建國委員 |
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呃有到委辦的說明但是還沒有取得委員的簽名不曉得哎委員來6元不是你同意是不是可以同意我們給我那個社工智慧決策平台啦有個委員委辦人說明鬼 |
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呃...委員您的提案是要凍結100萬因為這個平台對社工的職業安全還有教育訓練非常的重要希望委員可以給我們支持啦可以給我們改成主席域可以幫助委員說明啦可以嗎 |
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呃因為在今年齁今年我們正式上線大概有將近5000位社工已經開立帳號可以來使用那我們的那個我也有關心那個呃不一芽的模擬呃實境的那個教育訓練齁我們已經把設備也配置在各地的呃社福中心呃新衛中心還有呃在中區北區我們都有教育訓練的一個基地都已經陸續展開了 |
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那今年是第一年我們希望委員可以給我們支持再繼續這樣的教育訓練跟平台的一個工具的一個功能現在是22案沒有你沒有回答我提案的內容啊因為這邊有特別給我們提到說當你們評估為高風險時社工請求這個警察 |
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的陪同是不是有增加?還是仍然只有這個社工單槍匹馬嗎?有沒有回答我的問題啊?在警察陪同的部分其實那個目前相關的法規都有一些明定啦那當然如果是案件有沒有增加是我們需要再進一步來調查跟各法規的那個部分的數量有沒有就是不是啊你還是要回答我的問題啊我就兩個問題而已啊 |
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主席不要浪費大家時間就照這樣動啦嘿謝謝可以讓我們再跟委員說明一下好22萬劉建國凍結100萬這是要通過啦齁好通過 |
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23案廖偉祥委員統計處的話已經跟廖委員辦公室溝通過那剛剛廖委員已經幫我們簽字了謝謝統一改成主決議改成主決議好通過24案 |
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而事案的部分的話委員這邊希望我們再口頭表達一下是說這個案子主要有三支計畫第一支計畫是針對就是我們的那個健康數據大平台這邊的話其實是加強那個資料的治理 |
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然後另外一個晶片這邊的話是因為在推動案的過程中我們用這個地方來做法制的完備所以會推動所謂的那個指引在醫院裡面使用指引的部分在這地方希望委員能夠支持改為主決議然後我們也會 |
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支持委員這邊在講的是說我們可以在一個月內把相關的一個相關的措施提出來然後以具體的報告來做報議立法院被查以上這個就是說你新的新的目標計劃 |
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我們大概是那個以半年左右半年 |
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一季報告一次好不好好那這個24案就改組決議通過謝謝委員25案陳慶威陳慶威委員這邊謝謝陳慶威委員已經取得簽名改組決議好陳委員OK齁OK來通過26案李淑雲委員這邊的話對我委員沒關係叫他來跟著我就好 |
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這個我是堅持要凍結就是說因為再生醫療法和再生治劑條例都已經通過了那我們發現說以前在特管辦法公布的這個治療的成效報告遭很多的醫生和民間團體病友團體都認為說他所公布的資訊頻繁不全 |
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與民眾期待的落差太大然後要求要完善公布我們要確保說在這種一並不平等的狀況之下病患要擁有充分的知情權選擇權那在這種狀況我們一是要建置的網頁的內容要包含什麼包含我們所有的法律通過的法律裡面所需要公布的以外我們也希望他在細胞治療技術資訊專區他現行的這個 |
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為什麽我要這麽說 |
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因為我的好朋友然後他人家就跟他介紹說有一個這個細胞治療有一個新的技術然後可以治療癌症的然後我說你千萬不要去說你不要去你把那一家診所的資訊給我我一看發現人家強調是血液進化然後在我只能夠跟衛福部求證說這一家有沒有細胞治療的許可 |
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議員議員議員 |
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議員．議員 |
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這個民眾的知情權要告訴大家說這個癌別少他們從那個現有的網頁去看就是說癌症的那個癌別就是哪一種癌哪一種癌它的數量公佈的很少它審核通過的可是用了癌症18種卻只有公佈4種 |
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那癌期少就是發現他們成效公佈這個成效公佈成效公佈裡面呢免疫免疫的細胞免疫治療有三種狀況但僅公佈第三類然後資訊少 |
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這個是治療療效什麼都少啦齁但我剛剛講的是說哪些診所合訂了什麼他們也不知道啦通通都不知道所以是不是就照我們的提案內容然後凍結下來以後等到他們網頁建置好了然後告訴我們我們大家審一下然後就讓他通過我沒有刁難任何的東西只要你我們提案的內容你把它做好了就預算就可以通過了 |
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我可不可以請委員就是因為我們的資訊改版其實在治安的部分也要加強所以是不是可以改動就是100萬以這樣子的100萬那好可憐 |
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這個東西在外面招搖撞騙的已經橫行了而且欸細胞治療的費用多貴啊啊這都騙有錢人啊但是也有經濟弱勢的人為了救家人喔欸更加多錢救錢也來開捏所以你這個療效的成效要公佈要知情權要更詳細然後呢到底哪些診所有許可什麼項目也要讓大家都知道 |
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所以那個細胞治療的技術資訊專區要做好,你做好了就自動要來解凍嗎?一百萬不可能啦,昨天是八位數 |
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你做好了就可以 一定是八位數凍結起跳啦那是不是可以改動一千啦 不行啦因為我的建議是因為我們在那個健保快移通裡面其實也有查詢 所以 不要講健保快移通很難用的啦 健保快移通 你們說你不用過健保快移通哪一個人覺得他很好操作 |
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哎喲包括自己的密碼都忘光光了啦誰每天都在輸入啊密碼還一大堆密碼一直輸入錯誤他們留意的覺得很難用那個APP那對等一下我下一案56案就發現老人家資訊落差資訊的禁用權很差別很大差異很大你叫老人去用健保快通他不要用啦不要說老人啦50歲以上就過了 你要說話嗎 |
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兩千萬吶 最少兩千萬吶 |
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在野黨主席復航執政黨的預算非比尋常 |
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27案我這邊是有關於整個醫院他的那個淨零碳排的問題減碳的問題 |
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那我們可以看到我們112年整個醫院他的能源使用量在非生產性事業排名是第一位占比16.42%他高於公共運輸的13.11%所以我們在講說節能減碳如果要達到一些成效的話那醫院這邊我們衛福部應該要有一些 |
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怎麼樣來輔導這個其實是蠻重要的然後這個部分我們其實並沒有看到在明年有一些比較具體的計畫也沒有具體的方案那所以這個部分我要求是應該要持續去輔導醫院做這一些探盤查還有節能檢探 |
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在這個部分做得更有成效 |
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口中補充一下就是說連全世界在推動醫院淨零檢探這部分的話也是從2022年開始有個全球性的活動然後那我們在去年的時候開始盤查了52家的重度急急救責任醫院跟20家的小型的醫院包括區域醫院阿這個目的其實是先了解醫院到底探盤的熱點在哪裡程錄委員在推說垂尋關切的部分 |
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然後那在整個部分裡面的話我們的推動過程當中因為目前就是會聚焦在範疇一跟範疇二的一個節能減碳所以才要利用今年的經驗在我們明年的預算裡面其實是怎麼樣去把它做推廣然後小型的醫院我們其實是會連結到經濟部跟環境部的獎補助所以那個衛福部的部分的話會在以這個目的所以希望委員這邊是不是能夠改動100萬以上謝謝 |
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那是不是可以並動是不是可以並動檢探當然很重要是不是可以並動並動一千萬然後並動兩千萬對啊對啊我的案子是一千萬嘛並動謝謝委員你兩個要並動嗎 |
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同一個科目26、27李淑穩委員跟王毓民委員兩個人並動兩千萬通過通過28盧憲毅委員謝謝盧憲毅委員支持改組決議獲得委員簽名好那就改組決議通過 |
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29 廖偉祥委員廖偉祥委員這邊的話只是口頭取得同意支持對委員在現場委員在現場29我應該是要凍結吧你要不要解釋一下我說改動改動1000萬 |
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二十九的這邊的話主要是因為我們在整個醫療業務裡面特別是針對新興科技這部分必須要做委外的部分包括了就是說我們在講的一個像 |
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委託出去幫忙協助做一個智慧人工這邊的審查或者是說在數位治理的部分所以在這邊希望委員能夠支持是說在那個業務費裡面的委辦費的部分是不是能夠減少凍結然後我們改兩個月內提出書面的報告以上所以我這裡是改凍結1000萬然後提出書面報告經委員會同意後時的動之喔嗯 |
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那這樣29、30、31、32、33都廖偉祥委員都同一個科目嗎?是不是可以併案?那就併案動1000萬然後報告之後死的動資這樣可以嗎?廖偉祥好啊29、30、31、32、33廖偉祥委員的提案就是動血1000萬然後 |
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報告後同意指得動之對要同意指得動之好通過科目科目需要用哪一個科目一樣的科目嗎一樣科目一樣的科目好市長這樣可以齁可以好34案陳昭之委員那就保留齁保留35案廖偉強委員 |
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OK 同意 |
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那35案改成主決議通過36案37案38案這個一併解釋吧來 |
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36,37,38部分的話是資訊處那剛剛就跟數元解釋就說我們現在在全國統一電子兵力的部分的話呢是跟公園來合作然後用數位電子底盤的部分來協助中小型醫院做這個電子兵力跟整合那就是獲得委員的同意就是我們把它改成主決議這樣子那38案的話是 |
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三十八案陳慶威委員等一下回來先保留主席等一下他就回來阿第二輪阿好不好第二輪馬仔阿 |
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36 37號我要表達一下因為現在整個資訊系統也是蠻亂的齁第幾診所跟第7院區議院跟醫協中心所以如果衛福部這邊要做一個同工研院這邊來做一個一個BASE齁然後讓所有醫院能夠麻煩大家亂開機我是覺得這個是要好好的做啦齁預算也很多 |
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好那36案37案就改組決議38案38案也獲得陳委員同意他改組決議這樣子他改組決議喔喔改凍結500萬凍結500萬他凍結500萬好凍結500萬通過39案廖偉強委員 |
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三十九案四十案還有後面的四十二四十五四十六四十七幾乎都是同樣就說廖委員的意見是說我們在導入AI的時候需要做一些配套的處理這樣子對所以都是同樣的一個 |
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對,394042嘛對不對 |
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對42還有454647484748都是47沒有吧47我還是要動解維持動解一百萬啊哦來來那會議了我們一件一件39案怎麼樣39案改組決議好通過40案也改組決議改組決議通過41案陳昭志保留對 |
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42 42案廖偉祥改組決議改組決議好通過43 43案陳慶威謝謝委員簽名同意改組決議改組決議好好通過44案43案陳委員也簽名改組決議好改組決議45案廖偉祥委員改組決議改組決議46案廖偉通過46案廖偉祥委員 |
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也是改組決議改組決議好通過事件六位強委員他請他們說明一下呃是其他的部分也是在講就是呃次世代的一個呃電子兵力的一個推動然後呃我們現在次世代主要的一個內 |
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我們現在次世代主要的一個內容就是說整合台灣的一個電子病例然後使用那裡面有編列預算推動數位轉型越生然後委員提到說目前人工智慧大數據平台流行的時候導入方式是不是更合理或更有利於業務嗎 |
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希望我們不要胡亂吞早所以我們就剛剛跟委員報告就是說現在是用負責任的框架不管是在政府或是在醫院都是用這樣的框架來導入AI那就是在請委員給我們改成初決議這個我照舊動100萬然後書面報告經同意後值得解動值好47案動解100萬報告後值得動值 |
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通過48案廖委員改組決議改組決議好通過49 49案陳清輝委員謝謝陳清輝委員這是國務院的預算以獲得委員的簽名檔改組決議改組決議 |
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好 通過 五十案 圖前級委員五十案是圖前級委員 那我們只獲得口頭的同意啦 但是我確定還沒來喔 保留保留 五十案保留 |
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51eenthenthenthenthenthenthenthenthenth |
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對,針對這個這樣就是說國委員的113年、114年針對資料庫建資源住民的部分還是希望能夠每一季或者說有成果的時候就交給本席,謝謝好,謝謝委員那就到委員會來給報告給委員會啦好不好,給每一個委員書面資料嘛對不對,好那就通過53案陳寅委員謝謝陳寅委員我們已經獲得委員的簽名檔那改組決議 |
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改成主決議好通過54案55案56案這個54案也謝謝蘇昭偉那已經獲得委員的同意簽名檔然後改組決議好改組決議55案劉建國委員劉委員這個案子有溝通那委員是說現場要說明我們在就是目前委員還沒簽名 |
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我基本上是這樣部長跟院長都在這個地方很清楚的當時會催生這個國家級高齡醫學系健康福祉醫學中心全民就是這樣那為什麼要把國家級拿掉我真的非常不清楚這第一點第二點我記得在過去的主改的時候中醫藥研究所 |
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為了請問要放國家兩個字那中醫藥師也來拜託很多委員不分朝野為什麼沒有要把國家放上去因為那個定位責任非常清楚 |
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中醫藥研究所前面放國家 前面還是叫做衛福部啦所以它叫做衛生福利部國家中醫藥研究所那為什麼這個跟部長當時當委的時候一併吹噬叫國家級高齡醫學暨健康福祉研究中心你們為什麼要把國家級拿掉 |
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我真的不清楚啦齁 這個自我矮化到我很難去理解啦我們努力的把這個名字把它放好框好處理好啊你們就這樣的很輕易把這三個字就把它剝掉 |
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那當時當然前院長在講說阿放在這裡面就叫國家級的阿 對不對那你們去跟中醫奧委員會講說阿放在衛福部也叫國家級阿幹嘛在斤斤計較那兩個字國家 對不對先中有國家就好阿 |
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是這樣嗎? |
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8542.654 |
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院長要先說了我想謝謝委員一直對我們這個中心的支持跟指導我們已經把國家級也經過正式的在我們的董監事會也經過董監事的同意我們的網頁現在也全面改成有國家級的高齡醫學跟健康福祉中心以後我們對外的發文跟新聞也都會加上國家級所以非常謝謝委員的指導 |
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好,謝謝院長啦齁,這樣刪我就不跟你刪啦齁動500我給你改動100啦但你們不是只有公文不是只有開會把名稱改回來而已你包含在實體的這個中心現在在籌備的中心連國家紀裡面拿掉希望你們趕快去恢復啦好不好我叫做恢復喔 |
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謝謝六位委員那就凍結100報告後使得凍之 |
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報告後有改善經同意要使得動之的好不好OK 照委員所講好那這案子就通過56案林淑溫委員這個是林淑溫委員的齁那就是我們數位落差的部分我是不是簡單請我們司徒院長先做個說明 |
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我想謝謝委員關心這個議題那我想整個國家在推動這個高齡長照和健康照護的部分那有幾個重要的精神包括用科技導入的這個精神然後用數位賦能的這樣的一個策略以及普惠科技的這樣一個全盤的策略 |
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講重點啦講重點啦 |
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我想我跟委員做個補充因為行政院有一個高齡科技的一個產業我知道啦 這個國家有國家的高齡科技的計畫但衛福部或是國衛院也應該要在這樣數位發展的概念裡面數位科技應用到長照高齡服務裡面你們也要有看法那你們也應該要委託研究你們要至少要有基本的這個調查報告也應該要有 |
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議員． |
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因為那個財政收支劃分法不過我們要把它列為重點就是說你的補助你的補助你的要計劃去引導所以你的補助是要跟計劃在一起如果你重視數位落差的改善長者數位落差的改善就像剛才醫事司司長講的欸那你可以使用那個這個健保快移通啊你們的 |
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我們要的是這個啊 |
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你不要把他推給說行政院有在做的就好了行政院做跟你有什麼相關啊你他做的重點跟你做的重點會一樣嗎 |
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我覺得這個有關於高齡者的數位落差的問題的確是我們現在應該可以花更多資源來協助跟處理的那的確我也發現特別是像這個嘉義縣這樣的比較偏向的地區很多老人家他在這種數位應用能力其實真的都是比較差的然後他就跟不上你知道嗎他不會用跟不上現在包括像麥當勞很多地方還數位點餐 |
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那些老人家我覺得他根本他的那個可敬性就很差嘛他根本不會使用你知道嗎那我覺得像這個社區關懷據點我們現在衛福部這麼多部件的社區關懷據點就很好那這些關懷據點裡面你應該引導他們就多一些他生活應用的可以使用這一些數位工具的課程而且要加錢了部長那個關懷據點要吃飯 |
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就是根本沒有辦法就是多一點這一種數位應用的課程那這個真的要結合起來我覺得如果沒有辦法讓這一群老人家跟上這一個數位化那他們真的就會變成被隔離然後被淘汰然後這種東西是要每次練習的那我覺得你的關懷就是一個很好的場域 |
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8847.883 |
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每個禮拜都練習就不會忘記就會上手這個應該是可以我也很贊成但是我要講更具體的就是說現在老人家LINE已經都會用了但有時候老人社區大學或者是關懷據點會教你用LINE用臉書但這不是我們的重點如果衛福部去做利用關懷據點要做什麼 |
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因為數位落差大到他醫院掛號要網路掛號他不會你有沒有教他到醫院網路掛號沒有醫院網路掛號以外他從後診從早上8點就去後診等到中午12點他也不會看現在看診的進度他也不會另外有些診所和醫院已經把你的病歷或者是你的想看完病以後的資料已經上網到雲端 |
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那你所有的X光片啊衛鏡的那個檢驗的數據啊等等啊他其實都上網到雲端然後診所允許你去使用去看老人家根本通通都不會連數位掛號也不會了然後看診進度到哪裡也不會了連這個病歷的內容他也不知道了 |
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所以我意思是說我們這種數位落差紮紮實實的在我們照顧的體系剛剛講是醫療體系那照顧體系我們需要什麼你的社區關懷據點就是最好的最好的媒介然後人家會來吃飯那你吃飯以外你還要給他什麼資訊 |
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所以這個東西當然是很研究這不是行政院做就好了衛福部要範圍列為重點去讓老人家的日常生活的這個數位科技的應用他的可敬性要提高數位的落差要縮小這個是很扎實的運用和應用是日常生活必須的 |
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是不是容許我跟委員報告剛剛講的行政有這樣的計畫為何不有參與國務院是執行其中的之一包括我們長照裡面都有那剛剛特別提到就是數位落差的確有包括有一些長者是不識字的不識字這也是另外一個問題所以我們其實利用科技有些是用語音的方式讓他可以透過我們現在科技用講的他就可以溝通了這個有了那我們現在部分因為這是科技計畫裡面來的所以我們有4點 |
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8975.061 |
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大概北中南東有4個我們不是在講科技計畫我們在講要落實到全國的社區關懷據點我剛剛講的計畫你的計畫內容你的預算引導這個他們去在 |
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關懷據點上課的內容和方向策略型計劃列為策略型計劃放入關懷據點去落實去實踐然後才能縮小那這個預算你要有一部分是這樣應該去爭取這樣的預算那包括可能這也不是衛福部單獨可以做的比如說我們跟教育部跟數位部有合作這在行政計劃裡面就有了那有些點我可能請市長院長再跟委員做個說明 |
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我想謝謝兩位委員這個中心一開始成立的時候事實上是跟臺大雲林分院一起合作成立這個國家的高齡醫學跟健康福祉研究中心所以事實上在臺大的雲林醫在過去十幾年已經在社區有做很深入的耕耘那我們現在用科技導入的方式是在幾個場域示範的地方 |
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我們不要你再示範再示範也不要衛福部官員的精英式的思考我們需要全國不管偏鄉還是城市所有每一個社區關懷據點都有這樣的課程而且都列為必備的課程你現在示範哪些點先講一下他示範很久了那個雲林的那個劉建國他們有一個 |
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議員． |
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但是你要提出你的你的縮短數位落差在在社會福利上在醫療上的這個領域縮短數位落差你要幾年落實幾個期程然後你國會院要有具體覺得執行面要怎麼樣計劃你國會院要作為啊 |
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然後衛福部要提出分期計劃你第一年全國要達到50%的目標第二年要70%第三年要全國普及要有企圖心要真的想要去做我們要你做的是這個我補充一下就是說如果我們要擴大的話我建議衛福部你從資源比較弱勢然後你的人口比較多的地方開始優先去實施就是都會化程度比較高的其實比較沒有這個問題 |
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他資源相對充足但是真的我自己的觀察在相對比較資源弱勢偏鄉地區的老人他等於就是很封閉啊什麼都不會用啦啊什麼都不會用啦然後就是一直跟這個世界就是有點是被孤立出來了這樣子那你們反而應該要責定這一些比較弱勢的 |
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人老年人口比較比例比較高受教育程度又比較低的就是作為我們的重點那個才是需要國家資源去的那你說都會地區的老人他們很活躍他們社交能力很強他們反而其實學習資源也很多了好不好 |
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所以我想謝謝委員其實我們一開始選定了6個點不是只有在雲林地區我們包括台東的都蘭包括屏東的一些特定的安養機構我們就是在講說不要再講這麼多了把你過去做的現在過去一路走來就是不普及嘛那我們現在要部長你承諾的要衛福部承諾的就是你要分幾期計畫 |
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那你的普及率要到什麼時候你不要再講你過去示範你的示範計畫做了幾個地區啦我們要是全國式的普及你的計畫你會去好好規劃你規劃來了要多少預算期程要分成幾年你擬出來送到這裡來我們大家討論說欸你有這個企圖心然後要列為明年度五年計畫十年八年計畫那我們覺得你願意做了要編預算了那我們 |
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我們就同意就解凍了 |
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對啦 對啦 對啦 你就看屏東偏鄉機區或是婚林這整個找個處理不是一天到晚都找幾個地方再做做做你資源重複在投資那邊沒有意義吧甚至連線上醫療也可以啊 對對線上醫療也應該要可以對衛那個數位就是說對醫療資訊資源比較貧乏的地區整個看一步一步怎麼做 |
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要有企圖心才有辦法說要做啦如果對這個沒有想像也沒有企圖他要做什麼做連計劃也沒有施政計劃企圖都沒有那怎麼行呢我也出生嘉義縣 |
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我想兩位委員的指教非常有道理一定要擴出去只是說我們原來難道沒有這個計畫擴展出去的計畫嗎那經會跟隨著經會有沒有編這個都要呈現給大家看嘛 |
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你要有這個期程嘛,我是覺得絕對要有這種本來WHO在追求醫療跟社福的平權嘛那平權就是注重山地離島但是我需要的資源可能很多地方啦這個一定要去評估然後類似期程還有相對的預算那這樣子的話就可以真正把它落實,不曉得這樣做得到嗎 |
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你敢列預算我們就敢給你通過嘛跟各位委員報告一下我們有做一點事情跟各位委員報告一下我們那個現在所有的國內所有的社區關懷據點我們在從去年到今年他的基礎的網路建設我們全部wifi都幫他已經佈建好了 |
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所以將來這個所有的據點494900個我們都已經布好了所以將來在要導的硬體的部分我們已經基礎的硬體的部分我們已經處理完畢那所以接下來其實在每一個據點裡面那現在據點他可以去導入一些幫長輩去訓練的課程的部分 |
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因為現在的機制是據點去選修他想要去幫長輩去安排什麼課那目前也有這一類這個數位落差一些數位導入的課程那這邊我們可以繼續努力來安排更多的師資和這個相關的課程的內容來我們來做準備 |
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那但是基本上在個別的據點來說我們是不是可以有一個空一個小小的空間讓尊重據點來決定他想要選擇一些什麼樣的課程因為他可以選擇一些體能性的或者是其他等等的但是我們把數位相關的課程師資和課程的內容的部分 |
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不是啦 因為我們在補 有補助嘛 所以我們希望你的資源預算跟計劃要去引導不能說你自己算 我們也有必修案選修啊 我們社區關懷據點可以你一個學分的必修 十個學分的選修隨便你但這一個學分的必修第一年你可能是在講生活科技的運用 如果點餐 如果到餐廳點餐你這一年都是上這個生活運用的 |
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然後第二年可能就是我的醫療線上的操作要怎麼掛號怎麼上網掛號怎麼看整進度你要這樣子去引導啦要普及把經用權縮小然後對偏鄉地區你可能還必須要就線上醫療怎麼使用你那講那個基礎網路建設這硬體的最容易因為老人家很多也都吃到飽了499就可以吃到飽了 |
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Wi-Fi他也全部都建置好了該不是談硬體了該是談內容你計畫策略型計畫去落實去引導我們這些長輩去改善那個數位落差就不要談高調就生活層次生活層次每個人生活會遇到的所需要的能力就教導他們就好了嘛 |
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我補充一下吼剛剛那個社家屬講的吼就是尊重在地的據點他們的安排這一部分我同意但是你政策的落實就是說你要設定目標嗎吼請公立化健康台灣對吧啊就是健康台灣要怎麼做就要下去要落實啊那我們今天如果在委員會覺得說縮短數位落差這是很重要一件事情那你要並行啊你不是說東中央安排我現在看到很多關於據點青瓜最容易啊 |
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在做體操,他可能就是覺得,誒,他那個可能老師也不懂什麼,你們師姿沒有提供,他就不要教啊,他自己也不會教啊,他不知道要怎麼教啊,就是沒有這樣的課程,但是如果今天包括部長也都支持,我覺得我們應該有一個政策性的,就是你一年當中你要排 |
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你要排這一個數位的相關的課程在你的關懷區間阿其他你自己要安排什麼也可以那這樣子融合起來我們就可以達到我們政策要的效果嘛阿現在是怕說你沒有師資因為這麼多區間你沒有師資他自己老師也不可以教要叫一個人來講那個師資的部分我們可以努力來在我們就師資跟課程的部分我們可以來我們可以來 |
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我們還可以去想辦法來做部件阿把剛剛委員提的這個對於老人家的一個生活機能現在那個就列為必修剛剛那個必修阿不是有選修嗎必修選修都有嘛阿那如果沒那個教學高中生的卡就趕快翻過去阿 |
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國務院議員 |
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一千一千啊 |
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國衛院委員 |
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9665.774 |
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在疫情一三年韓國都做到病過了很辛苦啊人家外國都已經應付明年就超高齡社會了五個有一個65歲以上兩個就有一個是45歲以上 |
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所以這個是不是建議剛剛特別提到凍結一億一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬一千萬 |
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主席我講一下好不好我講一下對不起齁國務院動1000萬你們可以接受齁 |
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國家衛生研究院跟你們動一千萬你可以接受剛剛幾個委員講的都很好啦對不對齁那確實什麼選秀必修都必然啦齁那為什麼我想過去連也不是先經才在執行也執行一段時間那其實他應該有一個檢討的一個成果報告然後該怎麼樣去做一些相關的比重應該來提供給委員做參考 |
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然後也會因地制宜嘛他有都會型的他有偏鄉型的就剛剛講的趙偉是屏東那部長是嘉義王偉也是嘉義那李委員他是新北我是雲林那個選修必修課程會因為這樣的成銷的差距嘛對不對所以這個是不是你們要趕快檢討然後一個月兩個月之後提供出來給提案的委員和相關委員做參考 |
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然後凍結的預算部分國會院可以被凍一千萬那你後面的相關單位你們就小心一點我只想謝謝委員謝謝委員與您優先謝謝凍一千萬對國會院有時候是動彈不得因為我們整個是從研究計畫的這個角度去執行 |
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那我們是希望像幾位委員提的我們很快把這目前的這個狀況做一個很好的一個檢討在政策上我們的未來的這個推展那國會院該盡的責任我們想辦法把這個東西做好然後再做一個書面的報告 |
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五百五百啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
9845.214 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
謝謝溫暖的委員們他連調查基礎調查都不知道那剛剛劉建國委員講的說新北的落差跟雲林落差都不一樣可是就我剛剛講那些落差都一樣他對掛號新北的跟雲林的都一樣不會但是雲林的更嚴重 |
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| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
新北嘉義雲林 |
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| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
9899.619 |
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平東你給我看成果我看不然不幫你算沒有啦全台灣啦沒有啦這四個我剛才說的這個優先這樣啦全台灣啦你跟苗栗有什麼關係邱振進你這裡有苗栗苗栗好 |
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9901.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
9929.337 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
我們這邊也幫苗栗還有高雄爭取數位落差數位落差的研擬好了國委員你還比較賠沒有案啦好動500萬57案盧憲毅好謝謝盧憲毅委員我們已經取得委員的簽名改主決議主決議好通過58案謝謝蘇昭偉那我們已經獲得昭偉的同意那改主決議 |
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9930.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
9959.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
主決議好通過595959也是蘇昭偉那也獲得蘇昭偉的簽名那統一改主決議通過五六十案陳清威也謝謝陳清威委員我們獲得委員的簽名同意改動5%動多少5%動5%就是二十分之一動百分之五啦好動百分之五通過六十一案 |
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9965.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9980.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
611案是我的原因是國會院在這個苗栗還有雲林有一個高靈醫學暨健康福祉研究中心的辦理這個工程標案是留標三次所以我們開工的時程有延遲嗎對不對延遲了大概多久 |
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9983.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
10011.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
跟委員報告那個目前的施工的進度是符合預期的進度那在明年就會整個建案會落成而且會取得建造所以我們原本是預計竣工是2025年10月全面啟用是2025年12月這個目標您可以如期如值的完成是好那到時候我也希望說我們這個解凍的書面報告交過來就解凍好嗎是好謝謝委員謝謝 |
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10014.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
10033.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
所以61案結論一下61案我可以跟人家避難沒關係沒有人可以避難委員對不起長道士這邊說一下齁這個因為原先有溝通因為這邊有凍結五分之一那因為國衛院剛剛也特別 |
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10034.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
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呃留見國委員很關心啊這個八一多如果凍結五分之一真的會更是動彈不得那100萬100萬書面報告好嗎對本來想說是不是改主決議因為其實他的期程工程期程都會趕上嘿就是按照原先明年就會啟用然後就進駐是不是可以允許我們改成主決議那明年我們那我們一個月內就明年我們應該可以一起去我會幫你督促了好 |
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他如果慢了他們就死定了好不好那明年我們12月會一起去齁好我要你一起來那我們一個月內就會提書面報告好那改組決議謝謝好謝謝謝謝委員好61案改組決議喔那金額很多喔那要賠盤了劉建國頂上了齁62案王振旭委員欸62案就是謝謝王振旭委員那委員已經簽名然後這個案子是凍結10萬塊 |
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我這邊再確認一下謝謝這個社保司相關的努力不過一個制度總額預算分配公司我相信趙薇對這很關心所以如何能夠在近期或者是在哪一個階段之下可以完成相關的報告的一些演繹我們本來是寫三個月後來又把三個月劃掉現在 |
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王振興委員是佛心 |
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太久了吧 |
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會委託國務院做相關的進度的報告啦所以報告年是差不多啦好凍結10萬然後半年內報告通過63案陳清輝委員是呃謝謝陳清輝委員吼那已經取得陳清輝委員的書面那個簽名同意改凍結100萬元3個月內提書面報告 |
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六十四案謝謝蘇金田委員那同意讓我們改成主決議那我們一樣是一個月內會交報告 |
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對 這個平均點值啦齁什麼算法啦斷頭啦攤扣啦這些都要公務預算支出都要都要詳細報告齁沒問題是補充會很忙啦我抱歉自己為難啦齁好 |
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主決議嘛好對主決議通過65案陳昭芝保留66案66是我的我直接改主決議就好了66案改主決議 67案陳慶威委員謝謝陳慶威委員已經簽名同意改主決議了67案 |
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六十八六十八萬是照偉的我拜託照偉我國民年金監理會是在南海路的辦公室是一個小小的公寓不是不是豪宅但是我只有10萬塊的水電費而且現在那個收豬養 |
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的中心也是跟我合署辦公啦每個月的水電要8500所以是不是這個可以改組決議我們會節約用電這樣拜託召委啦我現在要抓100萬以上的啦對啦對啦感謝委員我們就改組決議齁謝謝69案陳昭樹委員保留保留齁70案陳慶輝呃70案是設公司齁那我們已經取得陳慶輝委員的簽名齁同意改為組決議 |
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我們那天有過來溝通我們也同意改組決議 |
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都問清楚了啦 可以啦 |
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好那70案就主決一把齁72陳慶慧委員這個有到委辦跟委員辦公室的同仁說明那委員好像說現場在提供一些意見我想要詢問一下因為你們這個社會救助業務裡面有一個兒少教育發展帳戶這個你們辦理的執行率是不好的 |
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所以你們對於執行這個業務的錢是多邊可是呢業務的結果執行率是不好的績效是變差的我想要知道我想要知道你們為什麼會這樣子做那跟我原說明齁其實這個帳戶是希望為那個經濟弱勢的民眾齁儲存低統計到18歲的時候他可以存到54萬元齁那他的申請的開戶率其實是逐年在上升 |
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那目前已經有65%的民眾有這個申請那我們為了鼓勵他們來存錢了這個法規有明定若他持續三年都按時來繳錢可以給他獎勵金大概是2500萬2500元那因為逐年的增加所以我們 |
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就是逐年要發給獎勵金的這個人數就增加吼那比方說113年我們是發了3763個人這樣690萬那因為每3年所以在114年的時候呢我的人數會就111年就已經又輪了3年嘛所以我會再增加到111年增加所以我們預定呢14年大概是1000萬左右這樣的一個需求那所以我們是編了1081萬可是你是不是之前的這個 |
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而少教育發展帳戶的這個預算沒有把它花完就其實你的執行率沒有到達標啦沒有執行率沒有到你本來設定的 |
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有看到一個遊民收容輔導自力脫貧方案預算的規模也是看到經費是變少原因是因為什麼 |
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那委員關心的前面那個問題那個預算有減少是因為我們的那個執行的依照執行數主總會做一些調整但是那個調整的沒有很大那兒少丈夫的開戶的人數是一直持續在增加好對所以希望委員可以支持這個是不是可以改為主決議讓我們就是可以用書面報告的部分跟我委員來做一些說明可是 |
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呃還是我們交一個解凍報告好了然後動一點點就好了呃動一點點那是不是可以動個大概呃10萬或20萬左右我們願意跟委員再進一步來說我們感情好好20萬20萬好謝謝委員好72案凍結 |
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20萬條 你是台幣嗎 還是美金 台幣 放起來20萬 然後要報告 73案林業群委員 是那這個剛剛已經取得我們那個范雲委員的簽名同意改為主決議 謝謝委員 |
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來 主決議 好 通過其實 市長 王正希委員這個也跟委辦有說明 也取得簽名 同意改為委員要再給我們記著來來 我要再說明一下因為 針對社會救助的業務其實我們很期待能夠透過一個社會救助法的修法 |
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來保障這些相對弱勢的我們的民眾所以一直都等不到這個社會救助法修法的內容所以才希望能夠透過這一次的凍結10萬來讓這個部分可以有更好的期程的書面報告這部分可能還要再麻煩再回應看看如果可以的話我們就開成主決議 |
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謝謝委員的關心關於這個法的一個修正其實我們在今年5月已經預告了那預告之後還是有一些各界的一個意見所以我們持續都在彙整大家的一個意見因為有共識在未來的程序比較可以順利所以這個部分很都是很積極的在進行 |
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我的這個凍結理由已經說得很清楚嘛齁 |
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這個就請你說明清楚好不好112年的中低收入是10萬6千多戶較107年是減少2400多戶嘛齁但是低收入戶14萬4千多戶較107年是增加2800多戶現在是中低收入跑去低收入戶是不是而且還比中低收入增加400多戶 |
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跟委員報告那事實上就是我們低收戶的戶數跟人數的這個比例他改變的並不大那整體來講是因為就是少子女化的一個狀況所以其實在戶數跟人數來講是稍微就是有一點那個下降但是比例的那個改變沒有很大的 |
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不是,少子化的關心,所有負數我減少,你是中低收入減少,你的低收入是增加捏。我的三節有寫這麼清楚,你不是兩個中低跟低都減少,你是中低減少2000,對照運氣是減少2400,你的低收是對照運氣是增加2800多捏。 |
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對不起2400多2800多戶耶所以我才說你的中期是跑到低收戶去是不是其實低收戶的人數是減少的那跟委員報告你是要說戶數還是要說人數人數跟戶數兩個我們要一併來考量因為以低跟中低來講低收戶的人口結構單身戶的比率是比較高總人數來講低收戶其實是比較少沒有比較多 |
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就是在107年的時候低收戶是31萬多但是到112年是27萬多主要是因為低收戶裡面比較多的單身戶老殘所以戶數比較多但是總人數其實是下降我們在跟委員說明的資料裡面有跟委員報告 |
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總體的人數下降主要原因是什麼?是你們幫他們脫貧了? |
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你人數減少你應該可以跟委員會說明清楚為什麼人數減少嘛是因為你們有什麼樣的策略好的方法然後讓我們低收入可以脫貧減少這樣人數然後另外可能另外一個因素是因為少子化的因素還是什麼因素你當然可以說明一下嘛 |
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因為你講也講了4萬多年嘛如果112對照10731萬雲斗市31萬的第一週入戶的人數到112是27萬嘛等於是少了將近也不到4萬啦311扣277嘛對不對要什麼因素嘛 |
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是呃人口呃結構的呃調整改變是一個情形那當然我們也透過相關的呃脫貧的計劃還有包括我們社安網裡面增加脫貧社工的人數來協助呃這些家戶哈那部分也有呃就是離開這個呃低跟中低收入的一個範圍這應該是有這兩方面的一個因素影響 |
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我覺得你講到有點虛弱了沒啦沒是盡我所知來說明盡你所知你有沒有實務在處理這個事情是啊你實務在處理中低收入跟低收入的脫貧對這是我們本市的業務你有實際參與嗎 |
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當然當然對相關的會議都是由我主持的你知道社修華在13年前大修幾條你有印象嗎那一次我沒有參與但是那一次有蠻大的一個改變那你們現在準備要預告的你們修幾條修的時候可以如何去讓這些低收入跟中低收入脫貧 |
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對於家戶的定義跟就是標準我們有做一些放寬包括那個最低生活費從以前的參照可自備手的中央是60%未來我們會依照能夠讓各縣市可以實質反映當地的生活水準的一個變動 |
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包括我們對比較不利就業的一個對象,我們也增加包括二度就業婦女啊、更生人啊現在絕地說服的認定了是我們台灣總共,包含離島總共分作幾塊 |
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最低生活會的認定標準目前的一個狀況是直轄市有各直轄市他們公告對 依照直轄市的 各域直轄市各域公告嘛 對不對對 那非直轄市台灣省的部分是由本部來公告 |
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那另外福建金門這些他們也會來做一些協商那但是在每年的9月底之前我們要公告下一年度的這次生活費的時候之前呢本部就會依照主席總處的意見還有內政部因為有一些土地財產房屋的一些價值我們會收集這些資料然後邀請各縣市政府來開會大家做一些討論那有一些共識之後再分別來發布跟 |
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公告,那這些公告的資料包括職涯市縣市政府我們一起一併會公告在百貨公司那你現在社會救助我要針對最低生活規定要怎麼修? |
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最低生活費的部分其實我們也做過一些討論因為我們是可支配總的中位數的60%那這個在世界各國是差不多不會太嚴是差不多那但是以往的問題是部分的直轄市他沒有完全依照60%若變動達到5%要調整那有的縣市可能表農他可能是變動1000他只調了一兩百那在修法之後我們預告的版本我們也跟縣市有做一些說明 |
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所以你未來修的這一條是全國一體適用還是比照現在的六都就是六都個別然後一般先是就是你這邊在做公告那離島就是離島 |
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還是還是屬於八八個臺灣整個就是最低生活會的認定保證是屬於八切八個八個等分就對了就六個等分嘛對不對然後然後一般先是就就就你們這邊嘛就算算一個等分嘛嘿然後離島就離島嗎還是持續這樣嗎 |
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是 這個部分我們沒有變動但是只想是縣市他們都同意我們所提出來的版本未來就是依照最低生活費就是可支配總額是60%變動的情形達到板子5就要來做調整這個只想是同意我們的建議只想是同意那一般縣市你一般縣市的跟我們一樣我們會做回來 |
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對阿,你也不一定要一保管期給你同意,你就去管阿嘛。我們會跟他們討論,那甚至比方說像新竹啦,縣市還是各地喔,他的生活費的標準比較高,也可以另外定,這個沒問題。對阿,所以你往本,我們都說你收我的時候,他把一保管期通一些標準,那個已經不對了嘛。嗯。所以你如果現在的社會救助法,你拿出收我的工具裡面,你又不去調整這個,你這個收的其實也是翁年啦。 |
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一般官司做一個標準而已,你自己要看身體官司,身體官司跟婚姻跟冰凍那是落差的,那是沒工的嘛,對不對?對,但是只有幾個縣市就是新竹縣市跟各個B1全 |
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好啦 沒關係啦 那個看我們就夠檢討啦齁 我是跟 針對你們到底怎樣給結束 讓可以檢討 再來你們所檢討 給所檢討 但是你們在結束的部分是 我看起來是整個嘛齁 你是不是簡單一個 因為我們委員有提案嘛 我就跟他併在一塊 然後 是不是有提 提 |
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改為主決議是不是是希望委員可以支持對啦我可以啦我可以我們會努力來研議修但你那個主決議就寫寫寫寫清楚一點好不好好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝主席謝謝所以改成主決議對啦對75案改主決議好76案廖偉祥委員羅志強委員這個部分也已經取得委員的簽名同意改為主決議好改成主決議那77案陳穎委員 |
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這個我們有到 因為是武力法委員比較關心 有去那邊說明 那好像還沒有結果 那就先保留 不要浪費時間了簽了沒77案 77案剛 |
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已經有去那邊說明有同意改組委員但是簽名還沒有拿到 |
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還沒有拿到就先保留我們在努力78案先保留79案這個也是蘇昭偉這邊有說明是口頭同意改組約但是簽名所以委員是不是可以現場來同意 |
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水電的我們現在盯100萬以上的啦該主決啦 該主決 拿來我簽 八十案陳昭芝保留八十一案邱委員陳昭芝喔 她今天去批文說她都沒了 她都沒了 她都保留先撈的喔 先撈先撈先撈 我們都尊重尊重 |
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八十一案求證經委這個已經有對有講過了但是我還是要提醒一下就是說我們1957這個電話使用率偏低越來越低的狀況那當然前面是因為疫情所以我們在這邊希望說你們要檢討一下這個做法是不是哪裡有出錯為什麼現在使用率越來越低以上好那 |
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82案也是我的啦82案我在這邊直接講是就是說我們實際我們這個貧困的人數跟我們在這個社會上我們看到人數跟你們登記是不太一樣所以我在想 |
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我們這個部分應該要做檢討然後希望能夠幫這個協助更多的人來脫離我們這個貧困的問題這部分誰在講 |
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好那呃謝謝委員的這個指教吼那1957是我們非常重要的呃社會福利的資訊的一個專線吼那會隨著政府的一些呃政策變動吼他的來電量會有變化那的確疫情的期限是一個很高峰吼有達到二三十萬通都有 |
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那到112就是113這邊都是恢復到正常大概是9萬多通那因為是一個政策諮詢的窗口還是非常的重要所以我們就是在持續研議怎麼來精進這個措施希望委員可以支持我們改為 |
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對我現在是發現你們的那個人數跟你們你們你們在列管的人數跟其他單位列出來的不太一樣啊你們的偏低啊偏低啊所以我覺得你們這個部分到時候在做的時候可能會有落差嗯 |
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好所以這部分是不是你們再檢討一下來再改進一個精進的方案來給我們知道好不好是是那我們就提出一個檢討的報告給委員是不是委員可以支持我們改為好的好的好沒有問題 |
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8月11日改組決議交報告8月12日及主決議交報告向委員會報告及向邱委員報告8月13日遼偉祥委員改組決議通過8月24日林業勤委員 |
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是那因為李委員在現場好像給我們一些指導好這一案一直以來在民間團體就是發生這樣的狀況就是說你法定業務要執行是地方政府權責可是問題是有時候連續兩年的契約往往隔年經費在不變的狀況底下又要求是因為你的新的服務項目有些要求你的 |
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11507.119 |
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機構自籌的那個款項會逐年加重照來講我如果執行法定項目的話法定業務的話應該是政府如果隔年要調薪這也是還是要負擔可不是啊那像這些就以部件計劃名義請地方政府來辦理的案子地方政府的法定款項籌募的義務 |
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整體的百分之5到20可是中央政府就沒有有效監督我們的地方政府最後都轉嫁到民間團體來民間團體怎麼可能去募款去支應政府的法定項目所以希望你們能夠提出報告否則這不足的項目不足的金額竟然要我們的民間團體來承擔我覺得這非常不應該 |
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很謝謝那個林委員的指教因為我想整個政府的福利服務的提供是非常感謝民間單位有協同我們一起來提供服務也讓這些服務更具有可敬性那社工是我們在負責那個社工薪資就是專業服務費補助的這個我們爭取行政院來支持我們調升的同時呢 |
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我們都同步來爭取對於那個雇主就是民間團體的這個保費的部分我們希望也要增加所以這個是第一個我們要做的努力那至於剛剛有提到這個存辦的民間單位要負擔的部分應該是有分兩塊來說明第一個就是如果是補助那補助的部分依照我們社福補助要點裡面的確是有部分民間團體要 |
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自籌的部分那如果是委託呢其實我們也很多次的會議裡面跟公文跟縣市政府說要編組因為這個是等於是受託的單位替代政府來執行跟提供這些服務這個是當然就是大家都很關注我們也持續在做這樣一個努力那但如果說等一下或許因為 |
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11635.249 |
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委託案可能比較多是社交組這邊如果有有要做一些補充的話那如果有一些是真的沒有呃就是主額來編好那我也我我個人我會比較建議可以把這些訊息提供給我們我們跟呃縣市政府來做一些溝通啊哦因為我們當然是希望經費要足夠呃才能夠去提供服務啊嘿 |
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這是老問題了啦我覺得一直要民間團體去承擔然後你講說你中央我們現在只能對中央可是地方政府應該也是要去監督尤其是法定業務不可能當然我們當然知道補助事實上是民間團體要做的他當然去申請補助款不會要求說政府要全額補助可是重點是我執行你法定業務的話事實上是委辦的話怎麼可能 |
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政府說要調漲薪水的時候或者是說隔年隨著政府部門要調漲那結果這全部都轉嫁到民間團體來我同意能夠動結數下降到100那就是還是維持其他的以上 |
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因為這個是對社工跟社區業務看是不是可以盡量掃動點這樣然後我們也用書面報告的方式跟我委員來說明我們努力跟改進的一些情形可不可以可以動50萬就好然後並下一案85萬可以並來處理好不好 |
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那個徵序委員國我這邊就是非常堅持因為我覺得這是由來已久一直沒有解決的問題啦好 所以 怎麼樣 林委員現在 |
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| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
10萬是佛心,這1萬是羅漢心 |
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11771.153 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
其實我覺得剛剛社工如何保護讓他們在工作的時候有安全感而且有實際的安全保護剛剛在22案的22案劉建國委員都講嘛就問說到底有沒有員警陪同或者是有沒有都還是社工單槍匹馬去協助這些需要幫助的人 |
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那這邊有一個我的統計大家也可以參考一下2023年齁在職社工一共有6281人其中有533人次曾遇到安全危害其中口頭入罵有304人次占了57%遭受威脅有175人次占32.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
議員． |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
針對於如何保護我們的社工在他的這個職業過程裡面得到更好的這個改善的部分希望能夠盡速的來把計畫你出來包括像22案裡面劉建國委員所提到的那些數據或是狀況那我同意可以並案凍結以上好那85案就遵照辦理凍結1萬塊那就84兩位委員都在前面跟那個跟民運行委員並案啦是是謝謝委員的指教 |
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好,我們到100案就休息20分鐘吃飯了86案盧倩儀委員改組決議87案盧倩儀委員徐欣儀委員在現場 |
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我們第87案最主要就是說我們在非都會區我們很多的這個長者志工是比較年長的尤其現在衛福部不是都在推關懷據點嗎那這些年長者志工保險不易所以我們就提案希望說能夠協助他們那當然那個 |
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我們衛福部這裡有跟我們回應那知道我們的一些情況會來協助所以這部分我們同意改成你們的建議主決議這樣87案改主決議嗎是嗎是改主決議嗎 |
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改成書面 書面報告主決議 也會交一個報告讓委員瞭解 但是最重要是你們承諾要下來協助的要協助 是一定會的 謝謝委員 |
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通過88案陳慶輝委員88是我的對我跟剛剛很多委員一樣就是關心社工人力荒的問題因為現在社工有在職業的好像跟護理師差不多只有62%雖然衛福部已經做過好多次如何解決社工人力荒的專案報告但看起來沒有什麼具體的成效所以過去監察委員所提到的高案量高風險還有高壓力 |
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這樣子的環境我們讓我們的這個保護性社工職場這個完全沒有改善所以減低了大眾成為社工的意願所以我希望可以看到衛福部至少要針對聘用還有留用提出相關的檢討措施來確保我們的社安網可以正常的運作才行 |
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謝謝委員的關心的確因為我們這幾年自然網是一次很大量的社工的人力需求那這樣創造工作機會也造成我們的社工可以比較多的機會可以流動 |
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吼以之說比方說他家在南部那這一次因為都有工作機會他就會有一些流動那我們持續定期每半年就會來統計一次額各個策略的社工人力的這個流動的一個情形然後那但是這些流動一方面是社工的個人的職癌的發展 |
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好那我們希望是對為國家培養更多的社工的一個人力那但是我們也希望有熱誠專業可以留下來所以我們在上網有一些配套的措施包括我們有增加更多資深社工就讓他可以不斷的去 |
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在不同的職位可以進階那另外還有一些成績制的一個訓練還有督導的一個制度那我們也在社福跟興味跟加防中心裡面設置助理讓那個大三或是研究所的學生社工的學生就可以到這邊先工作他認識了職場實務的一個狀況他在畢業之後比較快可以轉型跟願意投入這些工作那這些都是我們 |
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的一個成果啦所以我們很希望委員可以支持我們但是我們會就委員關切的一個議題呢再提供有一個報告跟委員來報告所以你每半年檢討你目前看到的缺口是越來越大還是越來越小 |
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護行社工是我們的統計是因為上網是每年都有增加人力所以我們的進入率我們的流動率是進而進進入率跟退出率相加除以2那我們的進入率是大概35%因為一直在增加需要人嘛那我們的退出率大概是15 16%左右 |
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所以我們定期會監控那也去分析一下各縣市的狀況各個不同的策略的狀況我們來提醒這些單位應該再加強這部分的人員的一個留任那我再請您提供您剛提到的這些數據我好像變案好了好 那就跟林業勤委員變案了科目不一樣所以希望可以改成主決議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
90案王俊旭委員 |
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是9091都是王正旭委員提的提案同樣謝謝委員同意這個改為主決議同時已經簽名是 |
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那就可以處決以後那是90啦90人有關於這個兒童性剝削的部分去年的通報使用網路工具犯罪的人就有2607人次高於非網路犯罪的1095人次所以這部分還是需要持續的來加強如何能夠透過我們在上個會期才非常非常努力的修過法案的部分從這邊持續來加強 |
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OK所以可以邊岸處理謝謝謝謝委員並按主決議謝謝委員 |
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同組決議嘛吼是好這佛心九十二案陳慶威九十二案也謝謝委員同意改為主決議是謝謝謝謝陳委員九十三案也是得到委員同意改為這個改動社家署的少子女化的對策計劃200萬元對有簽名動200萬票是好動200萬 |
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94949494案要跟委員溝通的是的確我們目前的兒少保包括在家暴裡頭的這個兒少受到虐待的案件的確有上升這是基於我們在宣導上面讓敏感度以及辨識能力還有暴力零容忍的這種狀況在社會普遍被接受所以 |
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議員． |
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衛生福利部長 |
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你們是如何去教育社區民眾的提早發言我們在社區推動這個子世代社區就是做這個我們的這個宣講師的宣導紮根到社區裡頭那目前有400多位全國都有 |
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這個宣講師那第二個是說你們請這個社安網的社工人力來做改善措施可是你們現在社工缺口還沒解決是所以這個社安網的社工人力缺口未解決怎麼應該說我們目前就三級二級的部分在全國有這個社福中心的社工也將近是4000多位然後再來三級就是額保 |
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而保的社工目前的確他相較的困難度高所以因此我們提供很多的社區的一些資源比較輕微的個案由我們社區的一些資源來加以訓練之後來提供這個案件的一個處理所以我盡可能的讓這個人力能夠補足用方案的方式用案件計酬的方式來提供這個案件 |
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然後你還提到說你還有個預防措施是相關的AI技術輔助這個可以請您具體的說明嗎好那這個部分是在發展中也就是說將來我們希望透過AI把這個商事的辨識商事的研判有一些AI的工具可以做一些輔助這第一個第二個我們目前把相關的各系統各資料庫好比說 |
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所以你的AI辨識AI技術輔助你是說幫忙協助辨識商事 |
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是這個在還還在發還還沒有發展預計將來我們在透過我們的科技科技組的一些工作將來會做一些這個引進那你要你也要用AI技術去辨識你剛講到的這幾種有可能發生家暴的家庭把它 |
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抓出來是目前都在這個基礎工程目前在建構當中是好那我們就動一點點好不好然後我想要知道剛剛您講的這些細節好9494案嘛齁動多少因為兒童保護的錢很少 |
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對,而是要保護的錢很少是不是可以50萬好,50萬謝謝95萬 |
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95 96 97 9895謝謝委員同意改組決議也獲得簽名然後96是獲得這個委員同意凍結一百萬那是不是可以這個部分可以跟前面的這個陳欣薇委員的94案能夠並案就改動一百萬就兩案並動一百萬好可以是謝謝 |
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科目由給業務單位來自行調整我們建議就是9494並96由96來刪往事 |
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九四九六合併就是動100萬97989798謝謝林委員非常關心我們的兒少的權益以及山網的工作那我們也按照委員的一些建議在相關的工作流程上面做了非常多的處理 |
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甚至我們也會把它並到社福考核裡頭當作項目那我們是不是希望委員這兩岸能夠並案然後這個凍結100萬希望委員能夠支持 |
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呃呃呃呃呃呃呃 |
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衛生其他的去建構這個網才能夠接住每個孩子可是始終都一直以來每次最倒霉大概就是一旦出事到社工被罵可是實際上是這網絡的建制應該不是單純只有社政要去承擔可是一直沒有去建構這樣子的一個網絡系統所以還有包含人員社工的訓練也很多時候兒女的狀況也是人員訓練不足 |
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1998案呢,因為家外的不當對待案件隨著政府在推所謂的公共化一直導引我們的孩子送出來成長比例大概10%左右的這種狀況裏面不當對待案件就隨著 |
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在提升可是似乎我們還是用家內的不當對待的案件來看待家外的常常是不成案所以我希望你們的調查也好因為幼兒園的這部分已經在做了可是拖延中心跟保姆一直沒有做常常不成案的狀況會讓孩子權益受到很大影響所以希望你們能夠這個從去年到現在調整我還是沒有看到一個還是一樣各個各個縣市政府 |
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對,我們現在已經有把這個 |
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我覺得很難放心為什麼因為現在 |
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從我還沒進來之前就已經是這樣進來之後又連續事實上有家外的不當對待的案件不斷的發生包含保姆有的還是死亡的或者托嬰中心所以還是希望你們把這所有的我期待的那些制度建制完成 |
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沒有問題沒有問題是這個一定照辦所以我們建議說是不是我們會後也提供這些資料然後我們能夠列管就凍結100萬然後我們送資料如果獲得委員以及委員會的同意之後使得凍結你說的9798和病9798病9897病98然後這個凍結100萬 |
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9797979797 |
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九九案目前是涉及到刑法的二期也就是對兒少的性侵我們說通稱為兩小無猜所以他的案件量居高不下是因為 |
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法律的一個建構所導致那當然我們也跟教育部有很多很多的互動希望加強孩子對身體自主權以及性的一個尊重的這種概念那我想就說請委員能夠理解說這個部分我們是非常非常努力在做這一部分是不是可以同意我們改為主決議 |
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一百一十年四千五百件一百一十二年五千一百五十五件所以兒少的性侵害案件是逐年提升然後你去回顧他有超過八成其實是伴侶的關係是所以我也想知道你們針對這個性侵害防治措施親密關係的 |
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防治措施要怎麼做? |
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他的親密關係還指的你請我願造成我們所謂的兩小無猜這樣的案件但是呢這一類型的案件一旦只要有一方是這個他去做提告他就會進到我們的案件裡頭所以這個是一個該主決議是好謝謝謝謝委員99100都該主決議是謝謝委員99案主決議100案也主決議然後101102103是同一個案子啦那我們103處理完就休息 |
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李委員他對這個性騷的案件非常的在意那的確坦白說看起來數字沒有大幅的下降可是從這個當中我們就可以看到他其實是有下降因為在今年開始這個性騷他的申訴的期限是從一年條到兩年 |
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相較的案件數如果是沒有下降應該要上升兩倍而實際上我們的數字是沒有升反向所以我們覺得我們在這個4年的中程計畫裡頭這個攜手地方把這個所有的宣導加強其實是有效果的所以我們希望委員能夠肯定讓我們改為主決議不曉得妥不妥事 |
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我的體驗裡面從頭到尾沒有說你們升啊我有說你們降但是降不多嘛對不對然後這個密度事件我們就不用再講了我不用贅述那是大家大家當時整個台灣社會就籠罩這種陰影情況之下嘛所以立院才會通過慶民三華嘛 |
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那到底想三五阿上路之後應該是要要很快速的來降下來當然那個那有時候評定的評定的方式不一啦齁這個我都可以去接納應該怎麼去評定會比較有個基準的不過今天會提這個案還是要提醒這個事情啦好不好那你要改組決議我同意啦就麻煩你組決議就寫的齁可以聚集一米裡的未來我們可以這樣的事情就就是就是可以有快速的下降甚至也不要發生就最好這樣好不好 |
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好謝謝主席謝謝委員好謝謝101案改組決議102案 |
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支持我們改為主決議在這邊對不起我再確認一下因為這個是張雅琳委員所注意到大部分都是關注在性騷擾發生以後的一些組織他另外一個其實相對密切關係的就是跟蹤騷擾的部分從那個去年的數字我們可以看得出來 |
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未成年發生跟蹤騷擾事件總計次數有787次所影響人數有348人這個人數雖然不多可是相對來講他們所受到的這些心理或各方面的影響其實非常大可是並沒有相關的計劃在執行當中所以這部分將來你我也很希望能夠透過這一次的這個提案來針對這部分來加強一個相關的內容的呈現 |
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處決議103案 |
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103也謝謝邱委員同意改為主決議也獲得簽名我們現在休息到12點30分 |
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委員會議 |
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響鐘 |
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響鐘 |
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響鐘 |
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響鐘 |
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響鐘 |
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好 我們吃飯的人繼續慢慢吃那我們開始我們預計4點齁4點就休息了齁明天再說了104案看有沒有人想要快的 |
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104案已經取得提案委員陳金輝的簽名同意可以改列主決議105案也已經取得提案委員陳穎委員的簽名同意改列主決議106案 |
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不夠不夠 這樣減你90萬齁106案是秘書處的那示範比較慢 |
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107、108都一樣的108是提案委員劉建國是針對我們的員工協助方案的那個建議那有跟委員報告但是還沒有取得委員的簽名同意委員是建議我們要凍結500萬 |
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然後向立法院報告之後才可以這個解凍那當天在那個質詢的時候委員有希望我們兩個主要的建議第一個就是我們的那個宣導要在網頁上其實在三天內我們的所屬機關都已經在網頁這邊都已經處理了 |
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第2個委員希望我們提供給同仁的免費諮商的次數可以盡量放寬這部分我們一定會這個遵照辦理所以我們是希望可不可以改列成這個主決議然後就是在一個月內向衛環委員會提出書面書面檢討報告謝謝這個是 |
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所以107跟108都還沒結構的嘛對那就先保留啦好謝謝那106案我檢列90萬 |
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是在這稍微顧委員大家好106跟109是委員其實它是同樣都是水電會的部分這個部分因為衛福部這棟大樓我們的電的度數其實一直在減因為漲電價的關係所以問題在節能 |
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14640.491 |
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我們一直在控制節能的部分所以拜託召委委員跟我們支持那這樣不然的話就106 109兩個病案檢列50萬好 謝謝好不好 謝謝好 可以齁 謝謝科目科目什麼科目水電科目水電會對可以嗎 |
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107、108就保留106、109合併減列50萬110案就保留111、121、113都保留部長你要去跟總委員 招呼一下啦不然的話 想不開你就麻煩了 |
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好114盧憲宜委員跟跟召委跟委員報告141516他的就是意見其實動的部分都是同一筆就是跟上面的呃跟陳昭芝委員的那個部分都是一樣的他他動的都是我們部長次長的特別費啦哦這是特別費啦哦這是這邊啊 |
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117117案邱振軍 |
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還沒有嘛還沒有在保留1818是陳昭智委員的保留19林業勤委員 |
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喔這邊的話其實委員關於就是希望我們能夠針對比如說像工作勞動權益的部分像是護理人員的那個顏領工資的時候如果超過預算的部分是不是應該要去做一些重新的一個計算然後對於拆請的部分的管理也應該要做一些的改善那我們這邊其實口頭取得委員的同意是說改動50萬然後那個在6個月內交書面報告後 |
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那個使得動之我這邊同意併案可是還是動一百萬你不是說五十萬要併一百萬?也是維持一百萬一百一十九案動結一百萬一百二十案謝謝委員就是已經簽測案 |
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一百一十一百二十案策案一百二十一案一百二十一案謝謝王振旭委員改組決議因為之前有聽林委員在質詢的時候在國外他們的經驗尤其英國 |
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如果是未成年任何這一些未成年的人死亡的時候他們都逐案的去了解為什麼會死亡那如果說依照我們現在的統計OECD國家相較之下我們這部分真的很需要能夠確確的去了解為什麼新生兒兒童會在 |
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這個過程當中他理論上應該要快樂的成長竟然會發生死亡的案件當然包括運產部這個部分所以我們很期待在這個部分能夠有更精進的分析原因作為未來因應的參考如果能夠主案分析不管是透過自己 |
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一百二十二案 |
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王玉明委員．因爲人不在現場建議保留因爲我們沒有取得簽名．他說要檢列21．對口頭同意我們還沒有取得簽名建議保留那123陳寅．謝謝陳寅委員取得簽名委員同意改動50萬動結50萬124案 |
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一百二十次案的部分謝謝陳金輝委員然後已經取得簽名改組決議好改組決議來啊一百來來來你來啊一百二十二案你還要給他凍結二十萬嗎齁我再次提了有關於媒體的預算齁我們就統一都送協商 |
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好,那就送協商。122送協商嘛。然後124案改組決議嘛。謝謝陳金委員改組決議,取得簽名。好,125案保留,選招式的。126案林業勤委員改組決議,是不是?對,取得范雲委員的同意。 |
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127案陳盈委員取得陳盈委員的簽名改動50萬動結50萬好128萬128案笑我一下128案盧憲毅委員取得委員的同意簽名然後改動十分之一動十分之一好動十分之一來接續129案 |
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14987.658 |
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獲得委員曾經會委員的簽名改組決議改組決議好通過130案130案的部分獲得曾經會委員的同意簽名改組決議好組決議131案 |
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15002.797 |
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15030.778 |
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這是水電費希望那個召委這邊能夠改成主決議謝謝因為委員口頭因為我們委員這邊原生的提案是簡列一萬五千我們實際上面的那個給替代一這邊的水電費他的宿舍的業務費的水電費是23萬希望委員能夠同意改組決議好 改組決議OK132案陳寅陳寅委員已經獲得他的簽名改動50萬 |
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15032.839 |
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陳清輝委員133案134案134案135案 |
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來一百三十萬我講一下我提這一案主要是看到我們現在的那個醫學中心的分布還是是重北輕南的你看到我們18家醫學中心13家都是在北部地區 |
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15069.526 |
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那另外一個中章有4家雲嘉南現在只有成大跟席美那所以其實整個狀況這種分布不均我覺得這個邱部長這個你醫療專業出身我覺得這個問題應該要想辦法看怎麼樣處理事實上我在現在在嘉義就是走訪地方的時候那大家會反映說這個整個雲嘉一家醫學中心都沒有 |
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15097.893 |
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15114.162 |
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那在這樣的情況底下你知道所有醫事人員他們當然都往覺得是醫學中心的地方那長期以來他變了一個惡性循環就是說你這樣子的一個雲加地區你可能留不住真正好的人才願意在地就是下來服務 |
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15115.183 |
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15135.3 |
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所以我是很希望說衛福部可以看到這樣的一個現象就是說怎麼樣去調整或是怎麼樣去激勵至少讓這個在地的醫事人他們覺得留在雲加共同打拼這樣子是有未來或是被肯定的如果說醫學中心現在的這樣的一個分部 |
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他現在監察院其實也有提出他的意見了那在這樣的情況底下你有沒有其他的機制可以來考慮比如說準醫學中心或是什麼你知道嗎就是說讓在地我真的看到在地有蠻多很努力的這個醫院他們也拼命去簽購新的設備坦白講他們在各方面其實你如果真的去評鑑他沒有比這個現在醫學中心比較 |
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後面的三分之一差其實是這樣子但是他們其實現在整體發展下來就是的確是重北輕難這個真的是分配不均所以我特別提這個案子就是部長因為你這個專業醫師出身應該要看到這樣的一個現象然後看我們是不是有什麼機制可以來調整好不好所以凍結100萬 |
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不過我還是要講一下 |
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醫學中心除了分布不均以外確實有數量太多的狀況醫療分級假如說是向衛福部長期把醫學中心當作禮物在送 |
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15229.108 |
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那以後會變得醫學中心的數量會無限膨脹我們原本是預定200萬人口一家醫學中心現在醫學中心的數量已經是100萬人就有一家醫學中心假如說再繼續只升不降 |
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我就一直覺得很奇怪為什麼醫學中心只要只要像剛剛王宇明委員講到就是說有很多區域醫院其實他跟醫學中心並沒有的醫療水準包括設備人力他沒有他沒有差很多那在這種情況下是不是應該要有升有降這樣子也不會讓醫學中心怠惰 |
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那我常講說假如說醫學中心升上去了就沒有再降那我不知道每一年要醫學中心耗費那麼多的人力物力時間做評鑑幹嘛他就等於是終生值欸嘛他終生是醫學中心為什麼還要評鑑 |
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我是還蠻覺得蠻支持王玉民委員這樣子的提案當然他講的是分布不均確實也有分布不均的問題可是現在就是怎麼降怎麼把怎麼取消過多的地區的醫院讓 |
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15362.25 |
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醫學中心數量比較少的地區可以增加而不是再繼續無限制的增加因為醫學中心的總數在你們原本的政策裡面是兩百萬人一家怎麼會到現在保證基準是18萬就一間阿對不對?阿如果你們補下去50萬就一間阿阿不然我們憑什麼要寫一間阿 |
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15395.644 |
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我現在是說真的我這個問題我講過好幾次啦不過我覺得欸分部不均是一個問題那怎麼讓怎麼把怎麼把怎麼把太密集的地區的醫學中心降下來然後拿到中南部這個請衛福部要加把勁啊不給他一直檢查 |
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15401.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
15402.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
法定人數不足 |
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15408.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
15430.067 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
好這邊先跟委員講是說羊羊委員這邊在講的是上一次去年的評鑑結果啦然後對然後然後延伸過來的是這個循環裡面我們其實也看到就是說我會特別講去年是因為我們的考題是108年就出了醫學中心 |
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15430.407 |
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15452.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
所以在鑑別度比較不足的狀況下面的時候才產生了就是大家都考過考的同分同分所以昨天我們其實在部裡面也把那個整個評鑑制度要做一個改革也做了一個啟動的會議然後針對剛剛委員就教的部分的話因為我們評鑑連動到的是房脊腹 |
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15453.2 |
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15482.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
然後那為什麼要200萬的這件事情在當初是所謂國外這樣子必須要一定的法人才能夠支撐醫院的營運然後那所以在當時大概民國八幾年的時候就已經說如果當那邊已經考過就是已經是醫學中心的大概就維持這樣子的家屬以這樣子的一個邏輯來推所以在未來的部分的話怎麼樣去運作的部分其實後面也必須把給付的部分也做一個重新的思考因為 |
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15483.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
15503.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
量要在某一個適當的量的時候才能夠維持整體的一個水準的運作這個是我們會來努力的方向所以昨天也開始了啟動的會議然後之後其實下一個循環就是那個考題的部分因為醫學中心在今年大概就已經會評完然後接下來在下一個循環是116到119 |
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15505.18 |
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15516.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
所以我們明年一整年必須把115要視頻的項目要搞清楚的時候正式的整個大改革的部分會116上路簡單的對委員做報告 |
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15544.08 |
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市長這樣子回答其實我覺得並不是這一次評鑑我才提出來就是說我從很早以前就一直講說必須要有升有降因為我們原本就有準醫學中心就是必須要有升有降這個是第一個我要講的這個問題並不是今年你們評出來我才提出 |
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15545.356 |
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| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
第二個呢就是同登同分這個所以大家都升這個我沒有辦法接受啦就是說國家考試呢要錄取幾名他就是一定會錄取幾名怎麼會增額對像這種增額錄取我覺得我真的不能接受阿我也不相信真的全部都同登 |
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15575.285 |
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15577.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
衛生中心才不會到最後爛掉啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
15610.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
15612.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
一百一十七案的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
15640.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
15662.737 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
因為這是新興的我同意併案啦117啊好謝謝是不是可以跟119林月琴委員的因為林月琴委員凍結100萬阿其他人勒陳昭志委員勒陳昭志委員的部分完全保留他完全保留阿對對對那我就跟他一樣嘛好不好 |
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15664.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
15684.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
所以邱委員這邊是想要跟等陳委員的對對對所以你這要保留對跟病案好了病案病案處理啊你現在好啦好啦好啦這保定的空缺了啦齁你跟陳昭志溝通一下好好好郭長官你聽到沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
15687.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
15689.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
一百三十六案 您是事務委員 有來不?保留保 她說要保留啦 她說要保留齁137案 王建修委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
15736.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
以獲得委員簽名改組決議這部分我可以再說明一下嗎?因為現在那個倒宅式的健康照護尤其是在宅醫療是重要的政策所以本來是想要凍結100萬希望有能夠更好的一些政策模式那我們也知道這個部分即使署長也發了很多精神也希望能夠有更好的誘因來讓更多的 |
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15738.181 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
15752.669 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
醫療院所可以來參與不過因為這次透過這個財政發文法修正以後會不會造成其他的影響的部分這邊可不可以請署長或者是市長也稍微再做一些補充好了那就改組決議我們現在說明跟講都不要超過30秒拜託講太久了沒有進度了 |
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15768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
15797.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
一百三十八案如先一委員以沃德委員的同意簽名改組決議好改組決議一百三十九案保留陳昭樹委員一百四十案如先一委員我再你再趕快講三十秒我想請主席能夠讓我一百四十一百四十一一百四十九一百九十四三百四十五跟五百八十四案都幫我保留可以嗎可以好謝謝我親自出席 |
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目前只有取得口頭同意建議保留 |
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146145以獲得那個蘇委員的同意簽名改組決議好改組決議好謝謝146陳金輝委員陳金輝委員這邊以取得委員同意簽名改組決議好組決議謝謝147 |
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一百四十七案的話只有獲得口頭同意還沒取得簽名建議保留這個改動一百萬然後書面報告經同意使得動之一百四十七案凍結一百萬口頭跟書面報告後再動之經同意當然要同意阿 |
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148陳慶輝委員陳委員我們也是還沒取得簽名好保留149盧欣怡委員我們還沒取得簽名希望委員能夠這是徐慶怡委員剛剛有說都保留宋協商什麼意思149保留宋協商 |
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徐欣盈請﹖15050案﹖徐欣盈委員﹖徐欣盈委員獲得委員支持改動十分之一﹖改動十分之一﹖好通過﹖151案﹖151萬謝謝那個蘇委員這邊獲得簽名改組決議﹖好改組決議﹖152﹖152謝謝陳委員這邊已經獲得簽名改組決議﹖ |
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153獲得邱政軍委員同意獲得簽名改組決議154是要改組決議 |
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他有來溝通啦但還沒有共識看大家意識怎麼樣好那就154155156156黃振旭是改組決議的嗎對好同意那現在劉建國目前不在那就保留那邱振興的你也一起保留好157 |
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157這邊的話因為那個委員本來提案是剪裂剪裂然後動10萬我們是不是希望這是因為是媒體宣傳這邊是希望委員能夠支持不要動我們醫政這邊的媒體這個大家都一起送卸傷好了啦這很敏感的大家都說功效不彰啦不知道在送什麼 |
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158158部分的話希望委員能夠支持因為這邊是在講任性醫療的部分我們分兩塊一個是過去對於就是說危害物質包括了化工廠這邊產生的化學物質的傷害的部分我們這次跟那個環境部一起合作有了一個 |
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158 |
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這個先保留啦先保留這個先保留保留送協商好了這個因為都牽涉到跨部會159案廖偉強廖偉強委員這邊的話是已經改組決意獲得那個委員的簽名怎麼樣院是業務OK齁主決意齁 |
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161 162 163 |
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163也獲得廖委員的同意簽名改組決議164部分的話只有獲得口頭的同意說改動2000有沒有廖委員改動2000萬164凍結2000萬 |
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請報告同意使得動之然後165呢165是國外差旅差旅會對然後委員是口頭同意改動20好那就動20萬166以獲得委員同意就是簽名改組決議好改組決議OK |
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167167的部分也獲得廖委員這邊的同意還有羅志強委員的同意改組決議168168部分的話獲得陳寅委員的簽名改組決議 |
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好改組決議169169是劉建國委員說要現場處理不過他現在不在現場可以我們建議保留170早上部長有跟蘇委員報告這是健康台灣的計畫那是不是委員這邊容許我這邊做簡單的說明 |
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就是說這次計畫其實是總統這個他在就任前的一個論壇裡面特別提到的所以我們部裡面就研擬了健康台灣的深耕計畫那這個最主要是四大範疇就是說希望我們優化醫療工作條件規劃多元人才培訓跟導入智慧科技醫療跟社會 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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提出一些發想那就是由八天阿伯上來吼那可以期待這個鼓勵機構可以來來來申請了這個也其實也就是怎麼樣改善我們的醫療的就業環境然後增加這些特別是在集中難的這些科別有些留任的一些誘因吼所以這個是希望委員來支持這個後面有幾個案子都是一致的吼那看看我們部長要不要也補充說明一下 |
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謝謝趙委員那這個案是基本上是由醫界所呼籲的啦希望也真的很感謝各位委員對於我們這個醫療環境特別是在健保的一個挹注裡面非常的關心跟幫忙那行政案其實也投入了很多大概明年會多了多了不少的健保經費但健保就是健保的預算就是有一定然後 |
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那個公務預算我們會想用比較比較有效率的方法來增加我們改善我們醫療環境那這個一件事提出來說就好像我們頂吼教育部有頂天大學我的一個計劃吼那五年五百億吼這樣的一個情況在做那麼一件其實也課也目前面對很多醫療上的問題 |
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那台灣的醫療院所的同仁也都非常有智慧也都很願意來協助所以他們如果給他們大概從4個範疇來解決台灣目前現在所有的醫療健康照護的問題包括人才的工作環境的改善人才的培育還有那個 |
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對這樣的科技醫療怎麼樣讓醫院醫療院所有有經會來做這方面的事情另外對醫療永續社會責任這個部分能夠有有有所貢獻然後那全國的醫療院所包括社區醫療警都可以來申請所以分起來其實都是用 |
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等於是用比較不是其實分起來不是那麼多但是醫院醫療所有的醫療院所甚至社區還有各個醫事團體都可以共同來為台灣的未來台灣醫療的未來解決台灣的困難共同來發揮民間的智慧那這個我們用這些錢來鼓勵他我相信他的效益一定是超過我們的預算多很多所以也請給醫界這樣一個突破 |
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169 170 171 172 173都是同樣這個科目 |
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到174174是另外一個呢?都是在同樣的項目之下都是同一個大項裡面那這個劉建國沒來嘛我是對這一屆的支持我很肯定啦這樣不就都給保留了 |
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我們知道AI導入以後對醫療領域會幫助很多 |
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所以如何能夠從這個醫療從業人員裡面處理會核心業務的時間其實可以整節省下來以後可以做更好的醫療服務在品質上面應該是會提升所以這部分很期待這一次的這個江江台灣永續發展的裡面 |
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應該把相關的這一部分如何能夠有效的節省非核心業務的這一部分做一個比較好的整理以後做未來在這方面的這個努力的方向所以這邊本來是要動一百萬是不是要看要變動還是要有其他的方案這樣陳清輝委員175嗎對173172172 |
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172我已經簽完了172是凍結1億凍結1億然後170171172173黃正希你要怎麼做要凍不然就4個人病凍5000萬 |
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合併凍結5000萬 |
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174 盧憲毅委員其實盧憲毅委員這次也是一樣也是健康台灣的跟175 那就併在一起好了啦盧委員好都是併五千萬 174 175還有蘇昭偉自己的176 176是媒體的就暫時不要暫時不要了175啦 那就是到175好都一樣啦175一樣嗎 |
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175是陳卿衛委員本來是說要現場主席對的175我先跟主席解釋一下他這個是健康台灣生根計畫大概是15億那他預算是8月就先編了但是呢他11月才呈報行政院12月國發會說他設計規劃的不好所以現在衛福部第一個還沒有答覆國發會的意見 |
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第2個他答覆完還要再把修正後的計畫再呈報給行政院行政院才可以核可所以主席他這個預算會不會編得太早啦他根本還沒有通過行政院的核可就編預算了OK嗎? |
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我剛有報告過啦吼那個這個是因為在在那個全國性的健康醫療健康論壇你們全國的醫療院所所共同的新生 |
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啊很多公務預算也都要有名目那有一個就像頂尖大學5年500億這種東西就是讓頂尖大學再超越那我們醫療體系為什麼不能超越所以才有這種大家其實醫療醫手提出來的政府 |
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衛生福利部長 |
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所以我們民間的腳步花得比較快那政府的腳步就是我們當然衛福部我們也有責任因為我們也研擬怎麼樣把民間的智慧加上政府提出的經費在衛福部真的也在那邊研究了很久國發會後來有意見我們現在也很快會給他所以這個部分大概沒有問題這四大方向是一定沒有問題而且那個邊的經費 |
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應該會充分的用到各個醫療院首讓他們能夠去改善他們的醫療環境那部長我想問一下齁因為你這個編訂設計的計畫本來你有在這個計畫裡面寫到輔導醫療機構執行預立醫療決定輔導醫療機構執行器官勸募網路模式提升網路分區器官勸募資源合作的事項這是你本來有寫進計畫的可是後來你就把它拿掉了 |
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然後再申報給行政院的內容啊行政院你雖然申報了可是國發會現在覺得你的設計不好所以又把你退回來了啊你被退回來以後你也還沒改你也還沒再給行政院一次所以主席我是這樣建議主席我們先動2000萬然後等這個行政院合可合定以後我們再來解凍就好啦 |
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我們馬上會處理因為其實有四大方向經費委員這個部分講的是第四個方向第四個面向可是第四個面向你本來有後來拿掉了原因是什麼衝一下就是說在那個我們整個設計裡面輔導這件事情的話我們就希望是說等於是醫院從自己發想的button up出來的話那我這邊的輔導機制就拉回到原本的那個 |
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的網絡裡面去做然後在第10期的醫療網裡面他當下來的有衛生局組成區域這樣的輔導我們就放在那個機制去處理就不在深耕這邊因為本來的想法是說那我意思是這邊是不是也也把醫療網切開來後來發現是說如果我單純的讓深耕是醫院把他出來的我就不進行輔導輔導拉在我的醫療網 |
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可是你一開始會寫進計劃是因為你覺得醫院做的還不夠好是因為這是重要項目包括了安寧他到目前為止都還是小眾所以在想是說在擴散力的部分我們需要來做強化所以一開始在總統的政見裡面我們就覺得在範疇四這邊應該要去強化然後那那個窩頂的部分因為我又有公務預算在醫療往這邊來處理那時候本來的想法是這樣子切 |
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可是以這樣子去運作的時候就發現我的醫療網計劃跟生根計劃會混在一起所以在經過部裡面的討論部長特別指導是說要切就切得乾淨一點明明大家搞不清楚我們絕對支援要不一樣不能一個項目兩個地方都有經費我是要求這樣子 |
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那這是很難得的一個機會可以讓我們創造我們不同的智慧所以如果那個地方ACP那個地方已經有地方在做了原則上除非他這一邊醫療院所提出一個更創新這個是講究創新跟解決問題的那這個就是有一個讓醫界發揮全國的醫界發揮智慧來解決自己醫界的問題 |
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那本來我們想申請比較多啦齁但是行政案就是給561這樣子但是我相信絕對裡面的項目絕對不能跟其他的計畫去重複而且裡面絕對是創新模式而且會經過嚴格的審查所以要寫給我的人也不能我不會寫喔因為這個勢必非常競爭申請的案一定非常多所以這個是一個非常大的大事情謝謝 |
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那主席我們就是凍結2000萬然後等這個國發會回復對回復完國發會還有行政院核定之後我們再來解凍好那就照陳俊輝講的這個就不跟上面的病案喔自己一個案凍結2000萬等國安會的報告再說 |
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行政院 176案媒體廣告暫時保留177 178林業勤委 |
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177案是口腔師的部分感謝林委員我們已經取得書面主決議謝謝好177主決議178呢也是一樣 |
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178案感謝林蔚琴委員關切我們自殺防治的議題那已經取得委員的簽名同意修改為凍結50萬元179王毅民這個是媒體政策跟宣導的費用那就合併都是一起送協商 |
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就是我改因為之前我好像有同意你們那個一起但是後來我發現這個其實是整個都是媒體的預算就是因為那個召委前面也有嘛我們就一併一併來討論然後就是送協商到時候再來講好不好好179就是凍結送協商保留送協商保留保留180吳委員 |
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一八零的話圖委員的部分的話已取得圖委員的簽名同意並二零八案然後動三百萬科目自行調整提書面報告好動三百萬科目自己調整這樣可以嗎動你說動哪一個變哪一個二零八你會嗎 |
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他可以併208這個就是動300181案陳欣薇委員181案的話已經取得委員的簽名同意修改為主決議主決議182第182案是圖全集委員委員已經同意改動50萬元並且提書面報告 |
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動50萬提書面報告主席有說明一下好謝謝主席當然剛了解以後我們針對新衛中心的部件看來衛福部是有達到目標的本來是53處現在有達到55處可是預計目標是要71處可是現在我們比較擔心的不是硬體的部分主要都是像我們社工的部分因為我們 |
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我覺得衛福部針對社工的部分就像護理師一樣都是很缺那新衛中心一直建立可是裡面的社工感覺就是不足一直跟不上所以希望我們社工師可以針對我們目前我們社工的職業率還有如何改善社工就業的環境這個相關的報告要請 |
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請提告我們委員會來給委員審閱好希望這個軟體社工的部分能夠盡速來跟上我們新會中心部件的腳步那部長這部分應該應該沒問題吧 |
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對阿因為硬體的部分看來是都可以打到可是一直都是社工的部分喔都是一直跟不上這個腳步到時候有這個硬體有新衛中心可是裡面的社工數不足那針對很多心理輔導的部分還是沒有辦法去做阿這個我沒了解而且會想辦法而且會各縣市我的建議阿因為我們也是看到幾個縣市也是做得不錯啦所以大家來互相觀摩阿一起來努力改善這個問題 |
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好對啊因為我們看之前護理師也是有面對相關問題好像也提出一些相關的政策我們希望社工師也針對社工職業率跟他的工作環境的問題也希望能夠提出具體相關的報告到委員會來 |
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工作真的非常的重幾乎不管在醫院或在社區只要人家不做的都是他在做所面對的困難第一線也都是他在面對壓力非常的多所以增加必要的用各種鼓勵措施我想這是一種應該努力的方向 |
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對 所以我們在質詢的時候也一直針對這部分再提出因為我們現在硬體的部分看來是沒有問題就是一樣還是這個軟體社工的部分一直跟不上這個感覺這個社工數的缺額還是很大那希望這部分還是要提出相關的改善方案這邊是不是再跟委員確認我們就是提書面報告然後經委員會同意之後我們再動之 |
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183案這邊是昭緯的提案謝謝昭緯支持已經取得昭緯的簽名同意修改為主決議 |
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184184是我的我是非常支持青壯世代心理健康支持方案的開辦但是我稍微看了一下您的數據今年8到11月才4個月15到45歲的心理健康支持方案就花了1.44億元結果整個2025年只有編列了2.27億元按照比例來算的話是 |
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感覺你2.25年怕後半年就沒有辦法再繼續支撐你這個方案了 |
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跟委員報告因為我們當時這個2.27億是怎麼來的是我們前一次的這個在去年開始推的年輕族群的這個心理支持方案我們的這個服務人數大概是3.1萬人那我們以擴大50%的量來做一個估算所以以3.1萬人我們乘以150%的話我們的服務人數大概是在47000人左右那我們除以我們乘以每個人三次 |
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然後每一次1600塊錢將來做估算是2.27億因為這個預算早在我們那你自己會不會覺得怕那個量能不夠怕你明年這個部分的話我們會看這個實際上使用的狀況那如果還不夠的話就像之前其實部裡面也都很支持這個方案那我們就看說如果其他的計畫有這個剩餘的話再來抑制我們這個計畫不足的 |
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那請你稍微寫一下書面報告你之後如果這個2.27億元花完之後要怎麼支付是那是不是同意就是請委員這邊同意讓我們改為組決議那我們再提書面報告解凍報告好了一點點就好了 |
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我們會提書面報告可是可不可以請求委員這邊讓我們改成主決因為我們書面報告一定會提啦就是說後續我們會來滾動檢討看這個不足的部分那我們會有什麼樣的其他的措施來做一個補強這樣子 |
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五百萬一百萬 |
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184動200萬185林淑溫委員 |
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這個我想再特別跟大家分享一下就是說全國年齡分層的自殺死亡人數和自殺出死亡率14歲以下他的出死亡率從95年的0.2到112年是0.9他這個是歷年最高那15到24歲其實都是學生階段他的出死亡率從6.9上升到10.9也是歷年來最高 |
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呃看得出來這個自殺死亡的這個年齡層喔呃非常不斷的在往下降而且最近這個國小自殺率很高國小學生的自殺率很高那如果講不講說死亡率就自殺通報的人次和戰率來看 |
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14歲以下的戰率從民國98年的0.8%自殺通報人次到112年是佔了7%了從0.8上升到7%人次從208人上升到3365人次 |
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然後15到24歲他的戰率也是從15.3%通報人次了3958上升到13244增加了1萬人次的通報所以我的意思是說如果你再去檢驗全國自殺原因別的自殺通報人次和戰率其中 |
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校園學生問題占率從98年的0.7上升到111年是6.7%人次是2849還有迫害的問題等等所以是不是跟人際霸凌網路霸凌當然大家知道小學生可能跟家庭因素有高度的相關可是我要講的是說這些不管是通報的次數或真正的死亡率的這個占比 |
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這簡直是太我覺得這個問題非常嚴重連美國你知道連美國來講我們看到了這個6到11歲而言對台灣自殺死亡率是台灣6到11歲人口的第6大死因在美國都還是第8大而我們比美國還要更前面所以代表說台灣的小孩子6到11歲他懂什麼他就要自殺他剛被生出來他就選擇要自殺 |
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所以這個問題知識體大非常非常的嚴重嚴重到我們覺得說這個國家我覺得我們新口司當然有很大的責任要去想到底是怎麼一回事那我們到底有什麼樣的辦法可以來協助這些孩子當然要跟教育部門的一起合作當然要可是我們部門能做的是什麼 |
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所以在這裡我們才認為說這個要提出一些專案報告然後要有一些因為你們提出了這個計畫叫做年輕族群心理健康支持方案可是這個方案到底可不可行有沒有效我們要去看這個6到11歲的死因要從第6大要下降 |
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要怎麼下降然後其他要怎麼處理通報通報的次數從3000多次到一萬三千多次加起來一兩萬人次的通報年輕人在學在學階段從從小學到這個大學 |
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這麼嚴重我覺得真的是國家很大的危機少子化人口不足可是活著的人卻卻不想活這個事情真的很嚴重啊所以我認為是我們要要好好的重視我也不曉得怎麼說 |
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所以你現在是凍結2000萬凍結是因為新口司的預算是還蠻大的規模我不是指定哪一個科目所以比較有彈性讓他8億等於是9億裡面凍結2000萬了9億裡面 |
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委員是不是可以讓新建室這邊稍微說明一下也謝謝林委員非常關切這個我們14歲以下的這些青少年的一個自殺的問題那的確我們也在過去學者的研究裡面發現就是說一些可能會引起兒少自殺的一個原因包含說家庭結構的改變網路的使用或者是說青少年目前的一個心理健康狀態的一個低下 |
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所以說我們從不同的面向希望能夠來這個做一些自殺防治的作為包含說從前端我們促進青少年的心理健康那到我們最近在推出來的這個年輕族群的心理健康支持的方案以及呢我們也結合了教育部看如何在校園裡面來促進學生的心理健康防止自殺所以這個部分我們也在自殺防治諮詢會有做一些跨部會的討論 |
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甚至連這個校園的一些防罪的措施我們也跟教育部跟內政部也都在做一些研商所以是不是同意讓我們這邊就是我們持續來做跨部會的一個合作來把這些自殺相關的這個策略再做一個精進那當然這個書面的檢討報告是一定要提的那是不是可以少動一些錢讓我們能夠對因為你的年輕族群心理健康支持方案你們要開始做了 |
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那這個東西在今年的8月也核定了那你們這一個我不好意思說KPI但是就是說這個預算你們的目標值是要下降這個自殺死亡率但是你們有沒有想到針對全國所有自殺死亡率但我說特地要標注的是在學的從小學到大學這個階段的年輕人的 |
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的確在學的部分我們需要跟教育部有更多的連結跟合作所以說相關的方案也持續在跟教育部這邊來做一個研商所以這邊是不是能夠讓我們能夠有時間來提出具體的一個精進的方案是不是可以少動一點點 |
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總質詢提到做死因回溯 |
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因為自殺事實上我們現在死因回溯按法是住到6歲以下可是真正的自殺的死亡率事實上是10歲一直到18歲如果是講兒少的話所以你們這邊是不是如果你要去整合甚至我現在看教育部的數據還有幼稚園 |
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幼稚園還有6個我就覺得那數據有自殺自傷的話那表示幼稚園就已經有了所以我覺得是不是各級學校裏邊還含幼稚園不是只有只有我們的呃剛剛淑芬委員講的國小而已所以只因為說可以去了解真實的樣態數據才可以預防否則現在做心理建說你說今天心理輔導心理諮商那是比較後端可是如果更前面 |
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了解原因才能夠預防這個自殺所以希望你們到時候討論的時候是不是你們只因回溯的那個機制因為國外是這樣做的以上我再講一下就是說98到112年這個都是你們的官方數據全國自殺原因別的自殺通報人次及戰略其中一項就是校園學生問題校園學生問題我剛剛講從185人次上升到2849人次 |
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這個我想在學學生這個也是很大的因素你要去跟他合作因為我沒有仔細看過你們的年輕族群心理健康支持方案的內容但是我就希望說其實你就整個9億的預算至少凍結一千萬不為過那結果185萬凍結一千萬好繼續報告委員是不是確認就是說我們提書面專案報告是不是提書面報告 |
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書面要經同意後施的其實要專案報告更有意義 |
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186案這邊謝謝邱政軍委員我們已經取得委員的簽名同意修改為凍結100萬 |
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什麼已經取得委員的簽名凍結100萬對改凍結100萬187案啊抱歉主席一個136我剛才回頭先處理136這個處理所136 |
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對啦136就是說我們那個醫學中心這麼多啦醫學中心我們的希望他的評鑑的好啦你講過沒關係不然可以維持凍結數還是一千萬這樣啦好啦一千啦 |
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還有就是公費醫師的服務結束後他的流向到底還有護理人員的問題這些都是很大問題再來你有看今年的新聞嗎公費醫師醫學院的學生沒有人要去填欸你說要開放重招公費生制度有沒有陽明教大還是哪一個學校還是全台灣的公費生的那一個額那個名額沒有人要去填欸 |
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沒有人欸不是你說要招供費生就有供費生醫學系今年供費醫學系的名額0沒有人要報欸 |
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一千啊? |
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187 |
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第187案已經取得主決議委員的同意修改為主決議委員已經簽名了188 188謝謝昭緯支持已經取得昭緯的簽名同意修改為主決議189 |
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這個等一下喔 |
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因為我人還在現場我還在我現在簽給你吼但等一下看你那後案怎麼處理因為都是一樣的吼大致上是一樣的嘛因為這個我原本要刪減跟凍結的理由寫得很清楚那當然口頭有跟我來說明說會努力達標嘛不過我還是要特別提到其實這個國內的新貴社公司建案比真的是在太高啦那我想現在部長對 |
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部長是出身醫療不過他對這個社會的體系他也蠻重視的所以我是把這個案件再特別講一下我們衛福自己期待是114年底可以降到1比25那到現在是1比28那全世界全世界1比26啦你跟我計較1比26跟25好OK很好但是國際標準是1比20應該是計較這個比較好所以你到月底年底是OK就對了 |
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192案先主決議193193謝謝陳錦惠委員的支持我們已經取得委員的簽名同意修改為主決議 |
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好謝謝194保留齁那就是徐欣穎的案子吧沒有這個委員已經簽名了喔簽了喔對對對委員已經簽名了那是怎麼樣194嘛194他剛剛對對 |
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195謝謝趙偉的支持以取得委員簽名同意改組決議 |
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196197198199 |
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199199再次感謝陳委員已取得書面委員書面簽名改組決議200200感謝盧委員我們已取得書面改組決議你們的口腔健康師喔要要用要打拼大家都給你收聽阿你們常常在用攻擊201201案謝謝陳經衛委員的支持已經取得委員的簽名同意修改為主決議 |
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202202謝謝王玉敏委員關切精神病友的社區支持資源那已經取得委員的簽名同意修改為主決議這案我我特別再提醒一下因為是審計部的報告指出來你們在112年嘉義縣的精神病友超過萬人但是嘉義縣是只有一家協會在提供服務那個資源真的是很匱乏對嗎剛剛一間部長聽好 |
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只有一間所以我要求就是你們這個新口司這邊應該要去強化這樣子的一個當地的提供服務的量能這個是極度缺乏這是審計部的報告都已經具體指出來了 |
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所以這個也跟部長說明喔這個資源這麼匱乏的地方連去服務的都只有一家這個真的是非常少了所以這個真的要想辦法看怎麼樣再去扶植有些獎勵措施出來好不好謝謝謝謝委員203陳昭芝保留204盧憲毅委員 |
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二零二零四委員二零四陳如先一委員我們已取得委員簽名同意改凍結十分之一凍結十分之一嘿 |
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好205205是我的對剛剛有提到說18歲以下青少年的這個精神病憂鬱症等等都會越來越多所以我們有做了一個新治病房的事辦計畫這個我相當的贊成也覺得利益很好那今年已經有台大16床了嘛對不對之後還要做中部還要還有另外兩家 |
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但是因為之前您在設立這個新治病房的時候有提到說必須要跟教育部內政部來橫向溝通以免說他在這個住院的期間學業上中斷所以你們要做一些床邊教學的計畫可是最後提出來的內容並沒有這些您以前覺得應該要做的所以本席是擔心有些家長他就不讓他的小孩去住在這個新治病房以免學業上被耽誤 |
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而這樣反而是讓他的這個病情有可能會加重所以我想要就這個您完整的規劃完他與與這個教育部還有內政部兵役等單位這個可能沒有那麼急啦教育部都會比較會比較需要一點可以有完整的解凍報告再來說說明 |
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205案凍結100萬書面報告後同意此則動之。 |
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2026案非常感謝劉委員關心口腔癌的一些一些事情那我想在這邊就藉個機會跟各位長官報告冰涼防治那個草案我們已經預告已經上禮拜就預告了當然劉委員所關心的配套我們一定會遵照辦理是不是可以拜託委員同意我們並208案我們就動300萬然後科目自行調整那我們會提書面報告 |
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好我同意但是我還是補充一點齁其實坦白講台灣現在這個使用檳榔的人數他應該是逐年在降低啦齁這個應該你們非常清楚嘛對不對但是如果得口腔癌到底的主要因素是什麼沒有盤整出來然後持續的在攀升那我覺得這個是有很嚴重的問題公部門會被挑戰啦好不好齁謝謝好206案跟208案凍結病案齁凍結300萬 |
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對我講一下我的208案其實一樣也是冰老房子要有成效所以這個部分就是動300萬那就督促你們要落實然後讓那個成效讓國人可以看到因為你們的預算其實還蠻高的好 207案207案感謝陳委員我們已經取得簽名就是同意併208案這樣子好 206 207 208都同併案嘛 |
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二零九有變案嗎?有感謝王委員也是一樣併二零八案然後動三百 都本兩個啦我未來交上班進行我明天都在看口香眼 |
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吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼吼 |
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剛剛劉委員你說口腔癌是不是只有吃半兩次就有口腔癌其實不是啊因為他有ABC喝酒還有吃檳榔還有抽菸如果有這三個習慣的話呢就是一般民眾都沒有這三個習慣的123倍所以那是很嚴重的部分所以為什麼我們希望能夠在加強宣導的同時也讓民眾可以知道如何能夠保護自己也加強這個篩檢我想可以變案沒問題 |
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206 207 208 209還有180180案徒前期的也併回來對不對那就都全部用208的科目 |
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並三百萬自行調整然後有報告後同意使得動之二一零二一零謝謝圖委員以取得委員的同意那改動兩百萬好動兩百萬口頭同意 |
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已經簽了簽了好那就報告後同意時的動之211211王委員是媒體全島費用就一併送協商送協商這個現在對媒體很敏感 |
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212212謝謝吳委員已經取得委員簽名改組決議213213謝謝吳委員已經取得委員簽名改組決議214陳昭芝保留215陳昀吳立法215也謝謝吳委員取得委員簽名已經改組決議216陳昭芝保留 |
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216其實我們有拿到陳委員的簽名已經拿到簽名然後修凍結50萬217陳兆之保留218陳慶威 |
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主席我的218其實跟你219的內容是相符的來來來我們一起處理218、219、220、221、22、23、24、25我們219蘇委員已經簽名了改組決議 |
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對阿那是我們2020有動200223動300阿 |
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二一八到二一九還有二二三到二二五啦統統三百啦 |
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2626謝謝委員已經取得委員的簽名動200好動200227227也拿到委員的簽名改組決議好謝謝28那也謝謝盧委員我們已經拿到委員的簽名改組決議好229229也謝謝委員已經拿到委員的簽名改組決議好謝謝230 |
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230也拿到委員的簽名改組決議231要請委員現場指導231是說我們對這個中藥查驗登記還有查場的預算明年是少了一半本來是2275萬明年只有編列1365萬元那對於這個國人的藥品安全還有用藥安全我是認為 |
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應該不用越來越少吧好謝謝陳委員指導我跟委員說明一下因為呢這個查驗查場這個我們都非常認真依規定來執行但是今年113年我們的許可證展延是8500件 |
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18924.249 |
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那明年是小年明年呢因為都可以查得到明年呢只有4400件所以這個是因為數量減少了4100件所以預估出來這個是很很實際的數字啊所以並不是真的要減少去執行 |
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一般民眾應該不會期待只有他申請的時候你才去查場吧對其他的這些規定的檢驗檢測都這樣進行這個易規定辦理所以請委員知道改組決議 |
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改組決議231改組決議232232謝謝陳寅委員簽名改成動50萬元233233謝謝陳寅委員簽名改成組決議234234也謝謝陳寅委員簽名改成組決議235235也是一樣謝謝陳委員簽名改成組決議236 |
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謝謝陳委員已經簽名改組決議237 |
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這個是我的一樣是媒體預算這個送協商238238的部分我想跟陳委員報告一下有關於這個謝謝委員關心社會福利政策綱領那我們現在社家署已經完成了法規的盤點那目前正在進行專家的諮詢跟地方政府的溝通 |
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是不是因為我們企劃業務其實還蠻有限是不是委員能夠同意我們改組決議還是我們等到您新版的這個綱領頒訂之後我們來解凍然後凍一點點就好了50萬你的期程是什麼時候 |
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跟委員報告那社交組這邊的話因為依照社會基本法規定是應該每5年要檢討社會福利政策綱領那在去年通過之後那我們會立刻來著手來做這樣一個檢討的動作那目前還沒有目前確實還沒有確定具體的時程在什麼時候會完成但是最慢依照那個社會基本法的規定我們一定會依照那個在5年但是我們會 |
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19090.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
我們可以在明年開始啟動來爭取各界的意見跟討論我們開始啟動是沒有問題的那具體的時程並出來報告給我我們就解凍好嗎那我們是不是可以跟委員報告是不是可以允許我們在就是我們改成主決議但是我們在這個一個月之內我們把這個書面報告提供給委員之後那能夠來解凍那這個書面報告裡面我們把這個時程具體的描述出來 |
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19091.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
19102.984 |
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我 我覺得你 你只要給我一個很具體的期程我就馬上解 懂不然我們現在還在用多久 13年前的綱領欸好了好了好了 等50萬了 等50萬了 講幾波了 |
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239239的部分因為這個委員關心我們這個有關於我們追蹤管制系統跟我們部長信箱的這兩個系統的這個維護費方面那因為這兩個系統包括整個系統維護以及優化都需要相當的一個經費再麻煩委員支持是不是我們改組決議來說明清楚這樣子謝謝 |
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19158.637 |
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我只是想要知道說您的這個信箱跟其他部門的信箱來比較的話是不是比人家執行維護的追蹤管制特別多應該這樣說我們就是我們其實案件量其實事實上是蠻多的特別是不管是有輿情或者是有一些疫情案件的時候呢我們的整個信箱的這個量都會很多那我們持續在優化整個特別是民眾有時候在使用上會有一些 |
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19187.534 |
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所以您是把部長本人的輿情在另外拿出來處理因為輿情的話你們本來就在其他的預算裡面有就是說有輿情的時候我們的部長信箱也會隨之變高整個量也都會隨之增加那所以說其實在民眾使用上會有一些角度需要做一些優化跟改善的部分那所以那事實上我們經費有逐年在下降中了一天開一萬口用一個email信箱 |
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19188.268 |
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二十零陳昭之二十一陳昭之法僚二十二盧憲一 |
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244244案是謝謝陳委員以獲得委員簽名同意改組決議245 |
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19239.324 |
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19266.904 |
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二十五謝謝林月琴委員那他已經也簽名同意改為凍結五十萬凍結五十萬好二十六王振旭委員謝謝王振旭委員那目前已經也同意然後改組決議也簽名二十七二十七邱振軍委員跟屠權級委員還有陳金輝委員共同提案那這個部分也已獲得簽名改組決議好二十八 |
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19268.906 |
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19273.268 |
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28謝謝盧憲一委員的提案那也已經同意簽名改組決議好249249謝謝陳委員簽名以改組決議好250劉建國委員 |
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19282.598 |
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19303.807 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
二五零那謝謝劉委員關心這個我們這個一位新南向產業一連結網站這網站已經更新到2024年12月那有跟委員辦公室溝通是口頭同意改為凍結五十萬好凍結五十萬二五一有欸沒有欸主席有有嗎凍結五十萬搞這件事 |
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19306.021 |
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19328.978 |
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沒有,我人在這裡,我要換那個主席因為我這個案跟前面的144案是都一樣啦144案是一樣的所以我是兩案可以把它併在一塊啦144對對14414跟250是一樣他現在只有講一案所以你確定要處理一案就好144跟你沒有關係144跟你沒有關係 |
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19334.132 |
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19347.941 |
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對阿兩人都一樣嘛齁因為因為內容也差不多吧這個現在向一位合作產業產業鏈發展中長城計劃第二期嘛齁那我一案是144我是刪200凍結100然後這一案是刪除100凍結100阿這兩案能不能並案就處理可以吧阿捏 |
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19361.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
19366.228 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
又來一個科目喔就以前面的科目嘛144那個對對對對對嗎可以嗎可以嗎可以啊好那144案跟250案合併對科目是用 |
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19387.302 |
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19412.497 |
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議事室的科目嗎?用議事室科目然後等下怎麼樣?沒有這個要刪啦刪多少?這個原本300嘛那就跟他刪50然後一樣凍結50然後凍結50是他整個這個新南西亞的意味合作跟產業鏈的發展中長期計劃的第二期目前的成果如何提出來後經同意時的動之我以為你鏈沒合作嗎?你剛剛沒合作欸 |
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19418.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
二五一已經取得王委員簽名凍結兩百二五二 |
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19434.405 |
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19461.376 |
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252資訊處向陳委員王委員報告一下就是說裡面有提到說健康台灣影像AI的一個部分那過去委員提到說國科會也有類似的計畫那國科會之前的計畫是用於研發那我們衛福部的計畫是把這一些醫療影像AI能夠落實到我們的醫院這樣所以我們看落實到什麼對不起落實到醫院你可以舉一個比較具體的案例嗎 |
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19463.336 |
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19477.742 |
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就是說我們現在要建立一個叫做非結構化的國家級的資料庫就是說這些影像的要集中然後讓這個來訓練這種國家級資料庫然後就嫁接到我們醫院的這個電子病例系統 |
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19502.328 |
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然後他可以幫助醫師能夠快速的找到這個病照譬如說乳癌乳癌在乳栽的時候AI可以比較快速找到可疑的病照然後來由放射科醫師再做確認這樣所以我們主要是落地應用的這一塊主席那我們就動50然後再報告因為想要再跟你學習一下好動50萬然後 |
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19506.192 |
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19507.596 |
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書面報告同意此則動之 |
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19536.378 |
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253主席253案是陳慶慧委員他關心的這個案子非常謝謝那就是針對我們玻璃醫院有關這個小額採購的事情那我們其實在這個部分裡面其實已經成立內控小組所有的副院長都是我們內控的委員第二個就是我們有成立一個風險辨識小組由我們政風處跟秘書處一起來再做一個辨識小組那再來是我們有所謂的參考所有的共同契約 |
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19537.239 |
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19562.374 |
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也加強最後也是加強我們的法制的教育所以這個部分是不是我們之前有先口頭跟委員辦這邊有溝通是不是在這個部分裡面可以像3個月內我們跟委員這邊來報告那因為這筆錢醫院營運業務費這個是人事費那其實會影響我們26家部立院的人事費用再懇請委員這邊是不是可以給我們在這個地方 |
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19562.974 |
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19575.243 |
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這個我們已經簽完了欸我們之前已經溝通過了欸這個是凍5%加酥麵這個我們之前就簽過了是委員可以嗎?因為等於是他是26家柏林天香離島沒有收到沒有收到 |
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19595.882 |
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19596.022 |
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那你提 |
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19622.563 |
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19641.073 |
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這個人事費我看一趴就應該算多少那您停您停是不是可不可以先委員說一趴我們再因為一趴也是四千萬好一趴一趴對可以是好謝謝好動四千萬好好四千兩百萬一趴一趴是一趴就是四千他們對一趴我我對我好我要中一趴有零頭你是在 |
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19650.185 |
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19654.869 |
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254案是劉委員關心的案子那這個部分是不是有跟委員口頭有說明是不是能夠建議改正出決議 |
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19668.57 |
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19668.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
主席劉建國 |
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19694.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
19713.868 |
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來陳昭志委員保留256黃毅民委員我們有跟委員這邊是在溝通啦但是他現在不在現場我們在這個部分這邊是不是改成那個主決議啦他有同意嗎他現場跑掉了簽了喔簽了簽了簽了好謝謝 |
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19721.167 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
19724.234 |
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王毅民委員改組決議256來257這個陳穎委員那這個部分他測案他有簽名 |
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19730.313 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
19758.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
圖前期委員258這個有跟圖委員有跟他報告過就是同意改動20萬然後3個月內要報告那針對這部分還是要提醒一下針對這個醫療廢棄物在地用的部分因為其實我們還是落後日本歐美很嚴重落後那當然剛剛也有說明說已經有在改善那所以我們說針對後面的部分尤其我們 |
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19759.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
19781.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
部立醫院是在衣服會的向下應該要帶頭響應我們綠色醫療的政策那尤其我們醫療這個回收的部分應該要繼續做加強啊不然我們看我們這焚燒PVC的醫療廢棄物產生的代藥芯對人體的健康有很大的影響那尤其我們 |
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19783.119 |
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19800.549 |
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我們那個衣服會鄉下我們一個不利醫院新屋醫院是好在那邊那當然也針對這些的部分要好好做加強那也順道提一下針對我們新屋不利醫院這部分的進度衣服會鄉下管理這進度也希望隨時跟我們追蹤一下 |
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19801.289 |
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19815.32 |
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是委員這個部分我們其實在新屋分院這一塊其實都已經在做委辦那委託完那就是我們去設計建造規劃的這個部分那我們預期大概是今年的年終的時候我們會案子然後就是來呈報 |
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19816.499 |
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19833.03 |
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好因為這個從之前到現在其實已經拖了很久了是那當初又說因為什麼建築師因為剛好往生所以這整個都延宕很久那也希望這新戶部立議員這部分能夠盡快好那也順道提一下還有我們 |
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19833.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
19854.886 |
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沿海現在有一個關於有一個大坡角長照設施好這進度希望也能夠隨時來跟我們追蹤回報是好因為沿海的醫療資源真的很匱乏確實謝謝委員了解關心那這一部分還請多協助一下好謝謝好那258259這個是呃劉委員259劉建國是OK齁委員是口頭願意改成組決議簽名改組決議是謝謝 |
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19863.25 |
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19865.252 |
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261感謝林月琴委員的提案那也已經同意修正文字以簽名 |
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19895.381 |
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19913.71 |
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262的部分261文字修正通過262的部分我們遵照辦理也謝謝林委員提案263案的話謝謝林委員我們遵照辦理264 |
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19921.288 |
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19951.152 |
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264264264264266266266266266266266266266266266266266 |
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19951.742 |
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19964.946 |
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266召喚通過267267遵照辦理267召喚通過268遵照辦理268召喚通過269遵照辦理269召喚通過270遵照辦理270召喚通過271271遵照辦理271召喚通過272遵照辦理272召喚通過273 |
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19984.833 |
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19993.58 |
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273交案通過274 274遵照辦理274交案通過欸這邊都是王振旭委員的你有想要發言嗎 |
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19996.449 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
20006.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
好謝謝275275遵照辦理275照案通過276遵照辦理276照案通過277遵照辦理277照案通過278遵照辦理278照案通過279遵照辦理 |
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20014.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
20017.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
已經取得王委員的同意簽簽名那修正文字 |
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20038.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
20047.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
283嗎283照文字修正後通過謝謝委員284遵照辦理284照案通過285遵照辦理285照案通過286286要保留是成交資的嗎 |
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20056.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
20082.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
保留286是陳昭智委員所以286287288都保留因為陳昭智委員現在不在289徵照辦理289照案通過290修正均衡290謝謝委員同意修改文字290照文字修正後通過291徵照辦理 |
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20084.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
20107.856 |
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二九一照案通過二九二遵照辦理照案通過二九三二九三謝謝武力華委員就修正文字遵照辦理好二九三照文字修正後通過二九四謝謝委員委員同意修正文字二九四照文字修正後通過二九五遵照辦理 |
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20109.028 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
20130.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
二九五招案通過二九六二九六謝謝陳委員那已經取得委員簽名修正文字二九六招文字修正後通過二九七我們這個遵照辦理二九七招案通過二九八二九八遵照辦理二九八招案通過二九九 |
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20131.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
20153.961 |
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二九九已取得陳英委員同意簽字修正文字二九九照文字修正後通過三百三百也取得陳英委員同意修正文字也已簽名三百照文字修正後通過三零一謝謝王正旭委員我們遵照辦理三零一照案通過三零二我們遵照辦理 |
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20155.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
20178.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
照案通過303是我的謝謝陳建輝委員我們也照修正文字照案通過照文字修正後通過304謝謝王委員已經同意修正文字好304照案通過305照文字修正後通過謝謝王委員的同意修正文字305 |
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20181.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
20185.713 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
主席我講一下部長這個我們都有講過嘛我的主決議啦就是這個一流展這個 |
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20208.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
20232.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
AI醫療國際展隊我記得好像FDA他們好像也有辦類似啦我知道好像部長沒有去啦這個就有點奇怪他的規模是怎麼樣能不能說明一下F DA有辦你們今天有辦啦 |
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20234.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
20241.224 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
類似換為規模那時候署長應該還沒有到還是署長剛到沒多久 |
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20243.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
20268.26 |
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我資訊處代表說明一下現在國內最大的AI展是在年底的醫療科技展那如果說委員建議說要把它獨立拉出來智慧醫療的話那我們是可以遵照這樣來辦理目前有個機會就是國際最大叫HIMS他每兩就是會在亞太辦這兩年是韓國我們來爭取台灣來辦這個展然後依照委員意思把台灣的廠商都推到國際這樣子 |
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20269.54 |
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20293.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
不是你們A5D不是自己本身今年有辦嘛對不對我記得是這樣嘛對啊跟委員報告是今年那個疫苗展的時候在12月底是我們有個攤位我們有展示TFDA現在怎麼協助那個AI產業的的申請和取證的部分我們沒有自己辦報告委員不是不是不是你是那個主辦方是FDA喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
20295.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
20307.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
主辦官是FDA不是你們去社攤位社攤位我就不會講了報告委員食藥署是有一些沒合會是由食藥署來辦的AI關於AI醫材的部分確實 |
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20311.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
20338.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
報告委員您大概是提我們有一個計畫是有媒合和產官學研他幾個團體的那個是一個媒合的討論會那個不是像他們在辦醫療展的樣子那我們是有主在那個計畫上是有做一些媒合的會議請產官學研還有投資方都來看這個然後我們在會討論當中最後我們會請他們媒合一些案件 |
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20339.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
20339.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
請他們進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
20369.767 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
我本來聽到偽裝進去因為人在於你沒辦法我看你們到底辦什麼但是我記得是蠻大的好像在世貿吧 |
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20371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
20372.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
李委員的願景我們明年就 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
20401.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
20401.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
來接替機關署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
20414.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
20427.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
三零半謝謝王委員那我願以簽名同意改組決議好謝謝王委員三零九三零九謝謝朱敬遠委員我願以簽名那同意併310案動科技業務一百萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
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20435.87 |
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好就309 310動100萬是對嗎科技業務對對對好311311謝謝盧憲毅委員那委員以簽名同意改組決議好312312謝謝陳慶輝委員那委員以簽名同意改組決議好313313謝謝313314是一樣的嗎313314 |
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20466.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
沒有314沒有313的部分就謝謝蘇委員那委員以簽名同意並310案動科技業務100萬元動100萬好314314這個呃陳委員他們呃這邊是希望現場溝通的那肯請委員可以同意並310案的呃動科技業務100萬元陳委員不在好簽了嗎 |
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20487.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
20501.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
他還沒簽他還沒簽還沒簽等他來他去再去那個315315謝謝陳慶輝委員那委員你簽名同意改動節二十分之一那三個月內提書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
20504.059 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
20522.597 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
動輒20分之一書面報告指的動輒316316謝謝陳委員那委員已經簽名同意改組決議組決議改組決議好317317這是水電費那這個部分還是希望委員可以支持先保留一下好謝謝318 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
20525.419 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
20547.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
三一八部分這留委員關心我們的那個業的專案那我們是從104年就已經開始做那這個業務我們是逐年檢討會根據前一年的那個業務量再來編列那像今年我們事實上有針對因為有這個霸凌事件所以也提供了一些課程跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
20548.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
20560.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
擴充我們的這個心理諮商的點那在11月底之前已經把這個今年額度用完所以我們會像那所以在這個月那我們會會就是用另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
20562.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
20586.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
業務費來去支持啦那這邊也請委員支持你知道我不會針對你嘛對不對但是員工協助不處理我就是一定會處理是是是是給你改組決議啦好謝謝謝謝委員可是你115欸對不起114明年就是要提高現在你們人事處也主任也在跟我講處長也在跟我講對啊是你們不能統我的科目現在要獨立一個科目出來好對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
20588.303 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
20604.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
我不曉得員工協助他們可以達到怎樣的成效但最起碼你自己的同仁遇到事情的時候真的有需要這樣的協助我們最少接得住啦 人們連這個都接不起來啦 好不好 你做主管你要重視這個事情嘛 謝謝318主決議喔 319 319這個是水電費 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
20611.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
20623.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
好先保留先保留320保留陳昭志321這個謝謝蘇金輝委員那委員已經簽名同意改組決議好組決議322322謝謝陳金輝委員那委員已經簽名同意在322、324並案凍結那以322案並凍防疫業務100萬元兩個月內提書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
20639.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
20667.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
三二二跟多少三二四三二四是林業勤的呢是兩個一起併動一百萬是防疫業務防疫業務好三二三三二三這個可能要跟陳委員這邊溝通就是坑青委員同意併三二案動防疫業務一百萬元以上好那我跟蘇委員的三二案合併三二一三二一 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
20669.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
20697.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
三一是組決議三二二三二三三二四對對對那前面還有一案是那個三一四的三一四案那個陳靜蕙委員這個部分對三一四我要併三一三蘇昭偉的三一三一樣一樣是三一零對對對對對是三一四跟三一三併ok併三一零案啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
20699.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
20701.794 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務預算部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
20724.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
20730.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
好326326而謝謝陳慶輝委員那委員你簽名同意改動100萬元那3個月內提書面報告動100萬3個月內提書面報告使得動之327謝謝蘇委員那委員已經簽名同意改組決議好328謝謝邱政軍委員那委員已經簽名同意改組決議好329 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
20752.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
20754.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律師律 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
20776.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
20782.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
232232謝謝盧憲毅委員那委員已經簽名那委員同意並331案動100萬元我這邊講一下因為有收到議事公會的一些建議啦這邊講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
20794.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
20820.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
因為最近流感死掉大概已經報告大概有75人那他們有發現說可能在類流感的定義上面過於狹隘所以在申報的時候可能希望健保署這邊能夠給予他們一些幫忙就是一些SD9的SD10的健保碼能夠給你們讓你們看參考一下能不能增加這些所謂上呼吸道類流感的一些 |
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| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
20822.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
好,主決議,333主決議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
20876.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
三森市徒權局委謝謝徒權局委委員以簽名同意凍結一千萬元凍結一千萬提書面報告對那就針對我們質詢利用為什麼只有一成多的部分也說明一下還有針對我們疫苗的採購跟掌握上我覺得有一些改善的空間那當然之前針對新冠疫情的部分好像也銷毀了一千多萬劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
那針對這部分也來說明一下然後也希望往後對這些的管控上面採購上面在改善的部分還是要提出一些說明謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
20893.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
20903.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
335、336都一樣的嘛對那﹖那不然就一起動一千萬啦一百萬一千萬省委員這邊336市委員已經同意動一百萬元那你也不動一千萬一千萬是另外的335、336是﹖335的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
20945.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
呃委員還沒有簽名不過已經到委員辦說明肯定委員同意改組決議不然335跟336就併100萬動100萬啦好好好是是是這樣好處理337王毅民的337謝謝王毅民委員口頭同意那併322案那不過還沒有拿到簽名就是了併哪裡 |
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| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
20947.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
口頭同意改組決議338 |
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| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
20960.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
簽名同意併322案動防疫業務100萬元兩個月內提書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
20977.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
20978.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
21007.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
21019.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
所以結論並100萬元好340340謝謝陳委員委員已經簽名同意改動結100萬元3個月內提書面報告好動100萬3個月內提報告書面喔是341341謝謝邱勝軍委員委員已簽名同意改組決議 |
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21033.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
21042.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
好改組決議342342謝謝陳慶輝委員委員已經簽名同意改組決議好343343謝謝陳慶輝委員那委員已經簽名改組決議好再來組決議3項來344344謝謝委員委員已經簽名同意文字修正文字修正好 |
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21061.175 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
21064.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
主席我不是講了他2月1號就要退休了 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
21088.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
21113.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
他都要走了他在這裏講的話能信嗎澳門預算能審嗎他編的但他要走了拍拍屁股就要走了他今天在對我們講什麼話承諾什麼都是假的現在叫部長回答就好叫部長來回答書長不用說了2月1號我負責我那個你負責因為所有的政府機關都是一體的而且是團隊的啦新來的署長是誰叫他來實習一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
21115.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
21115.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
21139.332 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
21140.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
他現在說的任何承諾下一任都要買單不買單就是你要買單可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
21161.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
21168.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
一致喔!他答應的全部都買單喔!那他這裡要走了他也可以全部都不買單他說我採強硬立場現在他的立場很強硬的齁都直接刪、直接凍、直接剪喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
21180.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
21183.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
他沒有損失他要再回學校學校的聘書都拿了不是嗎有沒有要再回學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
21199.266 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
21226.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
報告委員我16號還是要回學校報到因為我借調是到1月底對阿學校有沒有新的聘書給你他現在有同意還要回學校啦所以他退休金以後是在學校領啦但是他以最高年資阿最高所得阿他幾值等了報告委員我在學校的那個教授職也是到最高值等的你是幾值等你說我現在的位置 |
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21227.648 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
21248.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我是11級所以整個重點不是你領個人領多少而已是整個食藥署的士氣低落當時你們用他用不到一年他要走了大家這一年都認為說這來過水所以食藥水裡面的辦公士氣低落 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
21253.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
21274.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
沒用一個人今天要來改革的要來做事情用一個來沒一年就要照還要過水還要回去退休的這就是真正的問題啊施藥署的真正問題在這啊所以說不是說退工的好處也不是你個人的因素我也不一定要講對你個人但是你來這裡不到一年或者是一年啦二月一號 |
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21275.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
21286.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
5月20日至2月1日不到一年啊 你就知道啊 整個裡面的署內都等著看你笑話 等著看政府笑話 然後士氣低落 這就是對整個衙門裡面最大的敗壞 風氣敗壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
21294.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
21319.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
你當初這樣用人就不對阿報告委員我要說的公道話莊市長一天當三天在用阿你不要再講這樣笑話了啦保天你越講越離譜我問你他是不是5月20就任他是不是2月1號就要走他來這裡做多久他做了什麼改革他擬了什麼方針可以做為食藥署未來整個營運上的大方向大策略 |
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21320.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
21340.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
不是你在這裡幫他講,連你自己都自身難保了啦,尼普薩過薑了啦,不要再講這種茶籽磨粉,我不是針對你個人,是整個用人,你是幾個月就要走就要退休,用這種人來做食藥署署長,衛福部第一大部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
21342.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
21347.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
以此為見：下一個署長不能來這裡說做幾年沒搞就要走啊 太辛苦了我不幹了我要跑了 不能這樣子啊 你有辦法承諾保證嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
21365.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
21390.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
要做事情一天做到三天用一天你有辦法說嗎?你輪胸是你拼的啊?雖然不是真的你把點的啊?啊你當初永逸就知道你可以讓他留著他65歲又不一定要走喔?也可以留下來啊人家他不愛啊怕啊走啊怕就死啊要走又不是65歲一定要全部都一定要離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
21393.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
21412.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
沒有還可以多留一年欸不是這樣是他沒愛啦沒心啦我現在要說他就要走就算了嘛前者是宜啦來者有可追啦挨一個挨一個不可以再用這種的啦我告訴你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
21415.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
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喔七個月分才來,對阿!這樣你來半年就沒,就要跑,半年就要跑阿!要不來這裡過水!過水!沒有沒有!學者來這裡半年就要跑,過場的,我們都沒遺憾! |
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我們要來這裡是認真做事情容易認識的要把這個責任挑在肩上有使命感有責任感的不是來這裡過水喔很辛苦喔我今天來做啊這種沒理由這種來做工作也沒遺憾學者不要拿學者兩個字不要拿學者兩個字來羞辱這一個職務和職位和同仁啊學者的遺憾喔我這公務另外也沒在遺憾你學者 |
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我們這裡的事由署會公布你們要愛的是一個勇於認識、帶領權屬、士氣高昂、為人民的安全、用藥、醫材、化妝品、食品的安全要把關的、帶領大家往前走、中間階級的管理人員、CDD、DMA、世衛素材的該改革都改革 |
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中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務預算部分 |
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委員那您剛剛有提到說我在這邊半年是不是就是因為太困難才會離開其實答案是沒有因為我知道這個是行政的措施那來的時候那部長已經跟我講過了那我知道這個來的時候是非常辛苦那會不會再留任其實我是覺得那個是整個行政作業的流程那我其實應該不是我是這樣講的 |
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我是因為我這件事情其實很多人在問我問我的不是因為我覺得其實我在食藥署我學了很多然後其實同仁非常非常幫助我非常喜歡這個單位我只能這樣子跟委員講那因為這個是整個行政的作業的問題如果能克服其實是願意留下來是這樣 |
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謝謝黃委員我們已經取得簽名那同意動100萬 |
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好動100萬348那已經謝謝陳委員我們已經取得委員的簽名那改組決議好349陳金輝委員謝謝陳委員那我們已經得取得委員的簽名改組決議好350案 |
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那謝謝陳委員那謝謝陳委員我們委員已經簽名了改凍結科技業務藥物供需與智慧預算的分析這設備和投資100萬那我們會提書面報告好凍100萬351陳昭之委員 |
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保留352我們謝謝陳委員委員已經簽名了改動動結50萬動50萬353陳穎委員謝謝陳委員那委員已經簽名了 |
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那同意與凍結科技業務50萬並提書面報告好353凍50萬354盧憲宜委員謝謝委員盧委員我們已經有已經受到委員的簽名那該主決議好355那謝謝蘇昭偉那我們委員已經簽名了該主決議好主決議356 |
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356謝謝邱委員委員已經簽名改併案凍結科技業務50萬357謝謝陳委員委員已經簽名提案改主決議358謝謝陳委員委員已經簽名我們改凍結100萬 |
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綜結100萬順便報告359那謝謝陳委員那委員已經簽名了改組決議改組決議360360那個委員現在是跟委員 |
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這是整個國家這個叫健康食品產業的大問題台灣的健康食品產業至少產值市場超過一千億大概台灣人喜勝王國但是健康保健食品價用量第一名 |
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那我在講的是說人家從WHO Codex或是歐美的保健宣稱大家一直在講任何健康食品的功效都要基於科學數據而這個科學數據要來自於人體干預研究為主要證據 |
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所以要基於人體試驗的數據來證實功效成分和保健功效之間存在著明確的關聯性那我們台灣都不是台灣都用動物模式啦離體的體外研究數據然後就說它有效跟國際的主流背道而馳 |
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8種是採取動物實驗和人體實驗評估方式8種是兩軌並行 |
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有一種是允許只做動物實驗就好了 那個叫護肝護肝的聽清楚 你要聽到護肝的都動物實驗的並沒有人體的但雙軌進行的也沒有人在做人體的啦 所以現在聽清楚吃保健食品的就要自己評估都沒有人體數據的 沒有人體有效的數據 |
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然後呢有其中有4種改成不准動物實驗一定要做人類事實評估方式但是我告訴大家這4種沒什麼人審查通過的數量非常少整天要做人的抗疲勞的輔助調節血壓的牙齒保健的 |
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復助調解血和鐵的這四種保健功效評估刪除了動物實驗只能做人體實驗所以因此都發現說這個要通過的產品數量就很少很少所以相對這四種是相對比較有效的可以換個角度來講是以這位人體實驗其他的都是我不敢說不好的但是其他的就寬鬆的 |
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其他產品數量非常多因為產品數量很多所以政府不敢加嚴都好了你的動物走走過就算了這幾種就調節血脂血脂肪的胃腸功能改善的免疫調節的不易形成體脂肪的骨質保健的輔助調節過敏的輔助調節過敏體質的調節血糖的 |
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衛生福利部主管 |
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臺灣的1000億的產值但賣到國外是賣不出去的走不出去的啦所以我們一直講說要提高健康食品的標章的產品的公信力 |
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你要真的走得出去台灣這個市場,你不要台灣人吃的,都是這種東西,不好的,吃了會死的 |
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人們的顧慮不是這樣所以我們是希望說這個以人體事實實驗結果為證實保健功效的依據這一條路食藥署一定要建立起來你不能說這關於很多人的產品的問題你就不改建你總是要訂一些期程吧逐步把它完成吧 |
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所以我們在這裡是希望這個這個 |
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動節而已也不是簡略啦科技業務食品安全健康食品安全啦有效這個要關注啦這樣部長你要講還是書長要講不要只處理衛生啦他要答應啦要刪除健康食品保健功效的動物實驗的執行計畫應該人體適時實驗為主流啦這樣子什麼時候可以做好 |
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說中功料就照啊 要怎麼專業回答報告 報告委員 謝謝委員提醒其實我相信所有在做這些藥品的開發人都會遵守那個3R的規定 食品啦 不是3R啦 3R我已經不是跟你講3R了 動物福利才講3R但我現在不是在講動物福利 |
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對報告報告委員事實上我們現在在健康食品的骨質保健的功效評估方法我們現在在12月26號會預告會修正所以我們事實上會檢討他13個12月16號要預告26號要修正哪些東西就是可能就是把那個三足動物模式的用人體13種嗎全部沒有我們現在是一個一個我們現在逐步會開始再做 |
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好沒關係沒關係提出書面報告然後經同意後使得動資那是不是請委員能不能同意我們不要刪到這麼高不行啦一億六千萬一億六千萬加凍結一千萬鬧很多凍結一千萬你趕快報告給我十分之一的看啦 |
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361案361 陳委員已經簽字了簽名同意了改動結科技業務的50萬並提書面報告362陳昭之保留363保留陳昭之364 |
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主席我可不可以請教一下因為他的都保留那我們如果同一個計畫都通過了他到時候我現在不是在說這個我說我們的決議如果跟我們決議抵觸那要怎麼辦你如果說他保留跟我們的決議抵觸如果順他的我們就在這裡開火不就都燒了整個跟那個他就這麼說不行啦我們的決議如果跟他抵觸不能夠把我們的決議拿掉啊 |
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可以 這個可以 這個可以可以遵守你這樣的講法364這個是昭偉提的那想跟昭偉溝通的一個就是 |
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事實上我們這次為什麽費用會增加主要的原因是立誓的誘惑365364保留365賴委員已經簽名了改組決議366賴委員已經簽名了改組決議367委員已經簽名了改組決議368 |
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然後368賴委員和王委員都已經簽名了改組決議369賴委員和王委員都已經簽名了改組決議370賴委員和王委員都簽名改組決議371賴委員和王委員都簽名了改組決議 |
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372 賴委員和王委員都簽名改組決議373 劉建國委員還沒有簽但是委員已經口頭同意改列 簡列100萬科目自行調整由施品管理工作項目 |
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好那就先保留374楊耀楊委員已經簽名了改組決議375楊委員已經簽名了改組決議376陳慶輝陳委員已經簽名了我們改組決議377王委員已經取得同意凍結那個食品管理工作100萬 |
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378 陳昭智 379 盧偉源 380 |
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陳委員已經簽名改組決議381趙委員已經簽名改病案凍結500萬並提書面報告382謝謝盧委員委員已經簽名改凍結500萬提書面報告 |
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383委員已經簽名了那現在同意凍結500萬提書面報告384林淑雯委員384385因為真的我們邊境的查驗能力其實是跟他的負擔的案件不成比例 |
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那跟這個在這種狀況裡面就是缺人那以前用聘用的專案期限到了以後就沒有辦法續聘就用去買勞務承攬的然後勞務承攬的又來又新訓練然後培訓然後流動率又高所以他沒有辦法很穩定的分攤及紓解這個正職人力的負擔 |
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那也沒有辦法說有經驗上的累積和傳承這種人力上的問題就像勞動部勞發署北分署就是這樣子自殺的無性公務員其他旁邊有五個人力可以協助可是呢這五個也是勞務承攬沒有指揮監督權 |
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我們現在用老虎承攬在邊境我們也一樣對那些人沒有指揮監督權而且你又是蔡教授阿媽媽也沒有指揮監督權我不曉得邊境的這個安全風險要怎麼把關 |
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啊所以這些人力配置絕對是重中之重啊你一直用承攬下去不是辦法的保證這樣也不是辦法的事你所以對人力運用你要進行檢討案改進而且要考核而且你甚至應該趁這個機會啊無線公務員之後呢 |
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他們的部長去跟人事總署談要增加不要用承攬他們就去增加說約聘人聘約聘顧這樣子那我們在邊境是不是也應該要這樣子不要用承攬你沒有指揮監督權比派遣還不如 |
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然後在這種狀況裏面高風險的產品他也沒有經驗然後也不專業然後流動性又高所以你沒有辦法有效的在邊境阻絕境外所以你看年初發生的蘇丹紅色素事件等等到現在還屢屢爆出還有然後根本沒辦法發生慈安預警作用通通都沒有辦法 |
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在這種狀況裏面邊境調控沒有及時然後畏懼查緝不法廠商的專業然後也沒有人力也不能指揮調度不能指揮監督啊這邊啊你如果流入後市場以後那就散開了啊風險就散開了啊你只有主決於境外邊境就弄好可是邊境破洞破這麼大就是人力配置的問題這麼嚴重要怎麼解決 |
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來看你們想說什麼 要怎麼改觀 我說的城南就不應該了啦城南就沒有指揮監督權了好謝謝委員關心這個那個邊境城南人力的問題那事實上我們這一次在12月2號我們已經 |
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邀請人總的總長去我們三個邊境去基隆關和桃園關那請他瞭解為什麼因為我們已經跟他們申請要增加人力那在會後整個觀察那個看完了以後我們就提出我們需要的人力那我們這次是希望人總跟我們的人力是正值的人力而不是你提出幾個人力的需求他核定了幾個人 |
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我們現在提62個人還沒有他們說要回去好沒關係這個東西這樣子你把你們的整個提你的計劃還有改善計劃不是只有到人事總處去去尋求可以增加多少人力你整個的邊境這樣的東西到底是要怎麼解決你的整個改善計劃人力不足的問題你的配置的計劃如果人總給你核定五個六個呢啊你要怎麼辦 |
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報告委員其實我們那次去的時候人總同樣問這個問題其實我們現在是希望能因為人力一定開始會逐漸的缺乏那我們現在事實上導入的很多的AI然後我們所有的申請的文件現在全部導入電子化的申請這樣用電子化的申請那這麼簡單就沒有什麼困難你說起來好像AI就解決一切不要拿AI兩個字來當成萬靈丹啦AI這兩個字也不是你們 |
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就可以當成騙立委的理由和藉口啦,沒那麼簡單啦那是不是請委員人的同意就是凍結的數目變少,我們再提書面包括跟委員解釋6億2千萬,好,2千2百萬凍結2千萬已經變少了 |
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這個問題要怎麼解決? |
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立委提出來的問題你要怎麼解決拿出你的報告來你的計劃你的報告來我們看了滿意就解凍看了不滿意就繼續凍結兩千萬好384案凍結兩千萬報告後使者動之385那個賴委員和王委員已經簽名了改組決議386 |
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一樣是賴委員和王委員已經簽名改組決議387謝謝賴委員和王委員委員簽名改組決議388 |
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謝謝賴委員和王委員委員簽名改組決議389邱委員已經簽名了改併案凍結500萬併案凍結500萬書面報告是390謝謝土委員委員已經簽名改併案凍結500萬 |
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凍結500萬391謝謝圖委員委員已經簽名了改變案凍結500萬凍結500萬這個案子就變390的案子392392謝謝陳委員委員已經簽名了改凍結是食品管理工作的食品邊境查驗及國外稽查500萬凍結500萬 |
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簽名報告39393939393939393939 |
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民主委員3997 |
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這個就是從我們那個蘇丹紅色素的事件開始來的因為我們都講說我們那個食品溯源追蹤制度已經有了然後可追溯了所以可以不但可以預防食安事件系統性的風暴產生而且還可以達到預警的作用結果發現蘇丹紅事件破功以後大家才看到說 |
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全台灣幾十萬家的這個視頻業者真的應用應應這個電子申報追溯系統資料真的有去填的只有一萬多家覆蓋率兩趴兩趴 |
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結果發生這個事件以後叫大家都要去非罪不可裏面申報但是呢多數業者沒有落實依法申報或是申報不實申報不實施藥署也沒在查因為太多人沒在調查所以 |
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現在我們說這個制度是要運作到讓它避免掉系統性風暴我們真的是不相信然後呢你們又有這個限縮限縮資本額要大於3000萬25類的其他食品業別為申報其上下游及產製資料或為與系統核實登載下貨為提供完整及正確的下游流向資料 |
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這一種你們才列為這個重大的要去查緝的這個重點其實其他都沒有所以我們可以看得出來這制度遇到視頻安全事件其實是破功的然後風險擴大這個東西你們透過這個系統是沒有辦法阻止的所以我們真的不知道你們到底是要怎麼管理這個制度 |
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把當初建立這個制度講得天花亂墜,講得跟他不一樣,就從此不會有系統性的食安風暴,可是事實上就是沒有啊,那現在你要怎麼做要怎麼改善? |
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謝謝委員的關心那事實上我們事實上還有在對追溯這個系統我們已經擴大全面納管食品業那預告我們會預告修正食品良好衛生規範準則那會對於那個非自然人的直接買售我們會建立追蹤系統那同時我們會對申報不實惠我們會依食安法47條處罰三萬元到三百萬元的 |
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對阿你要處罰申報不實阿你跟我去查你怎麼查幾十萬家你怎麼查我們會提供記憶查資料然後會請那個地方局衛生局處幫忙幾十萬家地方的人員他們有足夠人力去查嗎幾十萬家分配到各地方政府新北市分幾件最少也十幾萬件地方政府有辦法查嗎抽查抽查 |
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你們這個有效的這是有效的管理政策嗎對啊你們都沒有連要資料你們提供都提供不出來來啦沒關係啦不繼續凍結啦是不是可不可以請委員同意我們凍結變成一千萬然後我們三億兩千萬剛才是不是不同的計畫嗎剛才是食品剛才的是食品管理工作 |
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零七零四我們這是零七零七三也是三億兩千萬剛才是六億兩千萬剛才是剛才是六億兩千萬這裏是三億兩千萬好啦那我們一樣兩千萬好不好請委員沒有我提四千萬欸多少兩千萬 |
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六十幾萬家叫地方政府去查地方政府就跟他沒有關係阿知道嗎阿我們辦公室跟他說你地方政府怎麼抽菸怎麼查提供資料來他提供不出來幾斤拿來給我們看他如果是六十五萬家抽菸喔看有一百斤嗎一百斤沒有啦那成比例嗎 |
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他以前必登的就三千萬以上什麼25類別其他還不用結果發現這個辣椒粉根本不在必登的項目裏面欸兩千啦我沒騙你啊因為這個單位錢有夠多的啦但是都做到很差的啦 |
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三九七動一千五百萬三九八一千五百萬三九六六千五元 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
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謝謝主席還想到396有事我跟他們溝通啦是改39100我沒有跟他動啦因為內容也不一樣我回到對不起但是我前面這個跟他有點雷同373373他們消防署自己說可以去39100但是我還是要強調這個是這樣 |
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所有應該知道當時臺灣面臨到這種很嚴重的食安的問題嘛竹南粉、山居清安、地溝油在這個委員會足足應該是六七年食安法修了七八次大家是絞盡腦汁然後一直討論一直討論然後一直修然後你那個灰燈不可到現在還有19萬家沒有辦法 |
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去做這樣的一個登錄這個顯然照理講新署長來應該去盤整盤點這個事情到底要怎麼這個講由雷同剛才林委員所講的狀況你們要怎麼去盤整怎麼去處理我當然是希望署長可以做久一點但是不要在署長沒有很久的時間又發生台灣重大食安事件那真的會 |
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對,所以我的373跟...也不用併案的,因為他動這麼多,你們都同意了我這個是小咖,所以我就直接聽你們的意見就刪100然後那個396也一樣嘛,就改刪100都沒有給你們動,有重圍性的處理啦373那個不敢科目嗎? |
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三七三三一百三九六三一百對對對好三九八那個蘇委員那個委員已經簽名了同意凍結五百萬五百好請委員那本來要專案報告是不是可以改書面報告好書面報告可以謝謝委員 |
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三九九謝謝盧委員我已經簽名了改主決議文這邊還是要提一下就是我們食安事件我們病冒就是9月17號發生到現在就是剛好三個月他們癥結也就是說造成四個人死亡那我還是希望說食藥署能夠主動去跟那邊的法院就是說他到底是怎麼發生的公告給大家知道 |
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謝謝委員 |
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四百萬我要更改因為剛剛前面有委員動兩千萬動一千五百萬他們都一直跟我說這樣不行不行不行現在其實是可以的我原本就動兩千萬那差不多就兩千了好啦那也改動一千五啦假日老爸都要兩千啦 |
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好,400案王毅民動1500萬好,4001謝謝邱委員那委員已經簽名該組決議好,組決議4002 |
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那謝謝陳委員那個已經簽名了該組決議好403那謝謝陳委員那委員已經簽名了該組決議好404404是我的章偉那個402 403 404其實都是差不多的意思 |
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但這個意思就是說他再來又要提一個4年18億的新一期食安的計畫那我們已經看出來了只要是這一任很多新的計畫就會加上深耕不然就是加上任性所以我去看了一下深耕跟上一期的食安新秩序有什麼差別 |
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因為過去已經有第一期跟第二期的食安新秩序花了10億喔用在食安的防治剛已經有很多委員去提了從源頭管控啊然後重建生產管理加強茶葉加重黑心廠商的責任全民監督食安這五個面向但是呢我們看到說 |
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從過去10年所有食品中毒的事件光是今年的第一劑就發生了446個案件患者約2500人創近三年同期的新高成長近一倍更超越了2018年整年的通報數 |
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然後仔細去看一下他這一期食安深耕計畫他分成三個部分他所有的名稱都跟以前的建立新秩序一樣建立新秩序第一個目標叫源頭管控嚴把關那再來深耕計畫叫做源頭風險嚴管理 |
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那之前的呢第二個目標叫做產銷監管其完善現在的叫做產銷監管稽查驗然後第三個叫做知能防護守時安這以前的 |
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這次的叫做全民監督顧職能所以我看不出來這有什麼差別都一樣只是名字換湯不換藥而已那他有講到說這個新的深耕計劃有新增四大工作項目推動產製業者職能還有外銷發展 |
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經濟目標業別就是冷鏈啊洗潔劑的管理還有辦理市售食品中重金屬的監測以及國際食品廣告的規範等等四個新的任務其實這四個裡面有外銷啦有冷鏈管理這個好像沒有具體看到會有什麼成效因為所有新的計畫裡面以前都已經做過了 |
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所以我是提議動20%動2000萬然後書面報告報告委員齁其實404這個案子我們大概主要的經費是用在那個後市場的品質監管包括農藥和動物用藥的殘留還有食品的安全監管那是不是請委員那麼考慮那個凍結的數目少一點我們來提書面報告好 |
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剛剛王玉敏委員是1500是嗎那我也是1500好那是不是可以那委員那如果動我們是不是放在動在食品管理工作這個向下好了大象是跟王玉敏的一起我們是我們當然是04跟07沒有大象 |
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好404動1500萬他是動到上面去喔客戶呢365可以吧來我看一下 |
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食品業務管理業務食品管理工作405405405那個謝謝陳委員委員已經簽了改動式食品管理工作項目100萬 |
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是陳委員嗎好動100萬406那個遵照辦理動10萬407陳昭志保留408謝謝楊委員那個委員已經簽名改組決議409劉建國委員委員是簡略是需要我說明嗎 |
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OK謝謝委員那委員有口頭同意我們並按簡略10萬元好簡略10萬元是伊林我請你說明不是說明 |
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你也大致上講一下這個之前那個藥品短缺的狀況有什麼對不對我可以簡略少一點的你也講一個怎麼應有的作為謝謝委員那事實上委員有提到那個那個那個藥品的缺乏那我們事實上在藥品有缺乏的時候我們臨床端的時候我們馬上會去看有沒有三重的藥品 |
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那如果沒有三通的藥品我會詢問那個臨床端包括臨床藥學會和醫師團體然後他會提供哪些可以取代的藥品如果現在發現台灣沒有取代藥品我們就啟動專案輸入或專案製造來做這件事情那我們事實上一直持續有因應監測那個國外的那些的缺藥的情形其實我們是混動式檢討這件事情謝謝委員 |
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處理方式就叫署長你講的啦但是是不是給一個報告好不好好 謝謝委員我給你一個報告409就到-10萬報告給劉建國委員跟魏王委員會410委員已經簽名了改病病安凍結藥妝管理工作30萬30萬好 411 |
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411凍結2000這一案主要是那個輸液這一次輸液的事件真的是太大了你要知道你們造成多少的醫療院所醫護人員的困擾這種錯誤真的是對吧院長因為你們也都受剝剪我到哪裡都被這個醫護人員抱怨這件事情 |
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弄得人仰馬翻阿我覺得這件事情其實真的知識體大阿這個凍結數比較高就是要你們有所警惕喔這個一定要改善未來這樣的事情絕對不能再有第二次阿這不關邱部長的事阿你要不選他就發生的事阿這個真的這個食藥署真的要繃緊神經一個政策的錯誤你們當然可以去糾正這一些不合格的工廠但你後續的配套完全沒有 |
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然後停下來之後而且還導致什麼不是工廠的過勞你知道嗎有那個工廠勞動部還配合你們然後火力全看那個加班時數那個加班表班表都已經破表了100個小時這個真的是很誇張了所以這一個你們要痛盯思痛的檢討了所以這個你要凍結2000萬是口頭還是書面報告 |
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411王毅民凍結兩千萬書面報告 |
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指責重資412那謝謝陳委員已經取得委員的簽名那動500萬在藥專管理工作的向下好動500413謝謝邱委員委員已經簽名了改組決議好414謝謝王委員委員已經簽名改組決議好415 |
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陳昭芝保留416保留417保留418民主委員418就是因為我們這個所謂的違規販售藥品查緝不法情勢這一兩年都倍數增加倍數增加那網路上違法在販賣藥品 |
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地方政府查緝起來都是因為無照藥商給予查法然後無照藥商這種東西我們在像網路上去來路不明的售售比這種也都差很多所以他其實對民眾的用藥安全影響很大那這種大幅成長然後影響用藥安全的狀況裡面到底是要怎麼處理 |
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你應該要更強化藥品的稽查效能到底要什麼因應啦因為網路上真的是無所不賣啦連毒品也在賣什麼都有很誇張耶啊這要有這招啊不然大家網路上都來賣是大家也可以賣後面還有一間勒 哈咪斯蒂諾斯一款非法的也在賣瘦瘦米乾可以在網路上來賣啊有的不是一個不是兩個很多的耶哈 要怎麼做 |
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謝謝委員關心這個議題其實我們事實上在食藥署不管是藥品衣裝還衣材我們事實上都有固定的時間去上網去搜尋這些的關鍵字那如果這個業者那個平台是在台灣我們就可以直接通知他他們就會把那個銷售的網頁擋住 |
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你們還是倍數在成長啊查緝不法的那個倍數當然你會說我查的更多了所以抓到更多的不法但是我意思是說這些販售平台這麼大眾的比如說那幾個大的那個販售平台你們沒有辦法去跟業者好好談說 |
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這基本的跟藥品有關的那個無庸置疑的不可以上架阿你現在是等到病就說一發生就去找他們下架現在我們要去跟那個平台講的意思是說你現在有哪幾種狀況你統統就不要讓他上架就好了阿 |
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我們事實上包括委員這個我們要主動去找平台來談過好幾次了那所以臺灣現在這幾個平台事實上都已經只要我們知道我們就會去把它打他就會幫我們打那現在大概委員可能比較關心的大概就是他這個有很多的IP的address他是在國外的所以他們沒有辦法採訪 |
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另外一個就是包括Microsoft還有包括Facebook那我們現在已經跟他們溝通了就是我們查到的網頁我們可以請他取斷他們現在已經也同意就是我們但是跟我委員講的沒有錯我們現在是沒有辦法整個做因為 |
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我們看到那個我們沒有辦法其實沒有辦法整個IP擋住這個我們的權限是做不到所以我們現在只有請廠商配合那現在包括台灣的16個平台和加上像Facebook和Microsoft是有不是啦現在你講的是事後處理的機制啊我是講說事前 |
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事前預防還沒上架以前你要跟平台談到什麼條件可以處理事後發現怎麼處理你把詳細的整個 |
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預防的機制然後處理的改善的這個方法你都交書面報告來啦然後經同意後再來動之啦少一點啦少一點王毓民你地價一樣的嗎?03嗎?你凍結多少?你凍結2000喔?這樣我就跟他講就都做完啊他就凍結2000啊是18凍結2000萬齁書面報告跟林書文委還有衛環 |
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2000跟黃毓民一樣419謝謝蘇委員委員已經簽名改組決議好420謝謝盧委員委員已經簽名改組決議421謝謝陳委員陳委員已經簽名了改併案凍結100萬凍結100萬對422422謝謝邱委員委員已經簽名了改組決議好 |
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12月25日及26日二天一次會議 |
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來,先講一下那個可不可以併案然後請檢列50萬然後科目我們自行調整好謝謝委員 |
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剪裂5000萬剪裂5000萬 |
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12月25日及26日劉建國委員同意減劣50萬元新台幣謝謝 謝謝委員12月7日謝謝魯委員委員已經簽名了改凍結500萬幣凍結500萬428 |
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那個謝謝陳委員那這委員已經簽名了改凍結500萬凍結500萬429 |
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齁齁你每天都很大條的這件事真的很大條的一個境外的非法的維斯蒂諾斯台灣官方網站我現在開給你看欸主席給你看保定你看看台灣維斯蒂諾斯台灣官方網站境外的虛偽的網站在買第4級管制藥品 |
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台灣官網、超商還有貨到付款 |
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史蒂諾斯安眠藥線上購買免處方我現在說的台灣人最愛用的短效型的安眠藥史蒂諾斯第4級管制藥品第4級毒品 |
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管制藥品他必須要醫學和科學上需要然後醫生要處方如果你沒有醫師處方你沒有到許可的地方去購買那個就是毒品了都叫做毒品了請問他這個在賣毒品還是在賣藥品 |
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他網頁在這裏你來告訴我你自己看網頁在這裏署長這是打你們臉捏打貴婦不臉捏打食藥署臉捏每個人都可以上網去買免處方現在在這裏在看笑話不是我要動你們錢你們現在告訴我你無能為力無能為力阿你沒辦法他賣毒品賣貼紙去賣關節油品 |
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沒有就下架 持續販售 官網在這裏偽官網史蒂諾斯的偽官網 現在說一個答案 如果沒有就是凍結兩千萬 零六 不然應該要檢列 檢列之後他就說我要走 所以不可以檢列凍結 凍結兩千萬好了 不要再說了 沒有啦不要再說這個 |
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這太離譜了吧!網頁在這裡欸!主席你看一下這個網頁被免處方啦!委史蒂諾斯臺灣官方網站網購然後你們食藥署10月初這種東西都說以含情網際網路平台協助技術資源屏蔽下架 |
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網站曾經關閉現在今天又開了 |
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我們之前去關掉現在又開了 |
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報告委員其實這個案子因為他的IP的位置是在國外他同時他是在Microsoft所以我們就請Microsoft他們和那個來談這件事情那他現在只要我們查到的網頁他就去封鎖那為什麼這個Stainless他會一直出現他有的時候常常去改他的Search他就沒有被擋住那我們現在就是發現他有他就去擋 |
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對啦但是人家那個創意司法那兒童那個他們就可以兒童性剝削的網站他最後就可以 |
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你們這個要怎麼處理?你說他經常改我們都知道上個政策下有對策但是這個問題影響國人的用藥安全嚴重甚至在這樣子你要怎麼處理?報告委員事實上這件事情其實在院的會議的時候事實上大家有詢問過因為他只有那個性侵害兒少法他可以直接把網域就下架 |
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但是我們曾經問過那個那我們在這裡面如果毒品那用藥品的狀況也進來這樣子我們是不是對殘害國人的健康很大我們修法人家兒童患性經可以是因為修法那你要不要修法你也來修法啊報委員這一次在院裡頭那個院長有指示他們要做出一個辦法來看這些事情怎麼去 |
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院長沒有指示你們就不做了嗎?我們有在做這件事可是因為我們行文給他們的時候你們有沒有看法啦我現在注意的時候你到底有沒有看法你們有沒有準備要修法要比照到那個強度你遇到這一種你烏格奈何他直接把網域封鎖全部都封鎖可以嗎?我們現在正在研議這件事情但是因為這個事情但是你研議出來齁這個網站還在賣賣藥品還走賣毒品 |
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好啦好啦好啦 包圍 所以他們這樣喔 這就要刑事單位出了啦 史蒂諾斯是他們的地檢署在扶植的 劉建國他們的地檢署在扶植的 |
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來 這我要講我做以前我開到史諾斯馬雄健保局就連線到關懷專案關懷專案你如果沒開太多或是量不對 |
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他們是監控後線是在雲林地檢署 |
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好 動兩千 好 別再說了啦你都說了 你叫我別再說 你也不能說兩句啊這個還要再修法才可以去 這等同是違要啊 |
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這是違要欸報告委員我們現在查到他是違要的那也沒有執照可以販賣啊網路上也不可以啊就是會請這些我們現在查到我們會委請地方衛生局處或者警政署去查這個案子我們現在都有做這個公文的交換都有做我們查到第一件事我們會請Microsoft或者Facebook他們就先把這個網域封鎖 |
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對 然後他就然後只要他去採購的時候會我們我們就就這案子我們是送委是有委請過警政署和那個地方衛生局處去查這種事情我們都有做 |
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但是因為他換的速度那所以我們同仁事上是一直在在做網路的那個我們立法院有處理上網去買過了然後發現買到假的了啊就是你會把單道請microsoft改封鎖他的網頁的時候已經騙一大堆人了那如果再變相的在裡面買賣毒品也可以啊啊但是他是用斯蒂諾斯的台灣官網的名稱在那裡騙了 |
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報告委員這件事情我們其實也通知了史蒂諾斯在臺灣的那個官方他們也有發表發出那個新聞稿請大家說他們事實上那個不要把責任都給史蒂諾斯我講的是官方政府的責任在哪裡啦你把關的責任在哪裡需要修法就修法需要什麼樣的武器和工具給你你就趕快講我們會支持你的嘛但是我們最怕是你一個 |
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24736.816 |
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消極待斷我們想要幫你也沒辦法我們要幫人民也沒辦法你要積極提出你的計劃你的作為對不對那這樣委員是不是能幫我們動少一點然後我們你要看你的計劃看你的計劃你寫怎麼做你怎麼因應我們再來決定說要不要給你解凍但我們給你動得很少的話你的不痛不癢啊不痛不癢的話那個凍要重想 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
24739.798 |
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| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
兩千萬啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
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24751.871 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
謝謝邱委員委員已經簽字了改併案凍結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
24778.255 |
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24797.451 |
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好 動500萬100萬動100萬來431陳昭之保留432謝謝委員陳委員已經簽名了那策案好那主決議433呃遵照辦理遵照辦理好休息5分鐘我們今天4點休息啊所以變快一點看見保守的變還在買 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
24807.279 |
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委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
24839.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
24843.526 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
24866.945 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
24870.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
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第12屆第13屆全體委員會議第14屆全體委員會議第15屆全體委員會議第16屆全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
24919.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
24922.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
24953.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
24958.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
委員會委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
25261.172 |
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好我們我在這邊跟委員會報告一下我們剛剛有一些是這裡動兩百三百五百各個委員不一樣我們會同一個科目會併案不然的話加起來就要逼本來的醫生更加多不知道要怎麼回答所以一定是併案跟大家報告好我們現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
25288.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
25291.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
25318.138 |
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435必定退到啊436是林月琴委員那個有關於科技業務那是建議跟444一起併案然後對跟王振旭委員的案子那一起那麼改為凍結科技業務100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
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236236236236236236234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234234 |
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25369.159 |
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用436的科目科技業務437保留陳昭志438陳慶威也謝謝陳委員已經取得同意簽名改動100萬提書面報告好動100438439王一民遵照辦理動100萬440 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
25394.906 |
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25424.275 |
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44444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
25424.275 |
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25425.276 |
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443 44是剛剛講的445好明天再說446 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
25441.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
25444.627 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
四四六謝謝陳慶輝委員取得同意改組決議四四七陳昭之保留四四八 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
25458.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
25461.416 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
謝謝盧憲毅委員取得同意改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
25473.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
25480.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
謝謝委員同意是不是450跟450450是土委員的案子兩邊委員都同意併案然後凍結200萬健保業務200萬450跟470以450為主健保業務凍結200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
25502.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
25507.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
451451謝謝邱委員同意改組決議452452林委員動90是不是跟454可以並案跟林岳勤委員並案 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
25525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
25527.851 |
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我待會考慮我現在出幾回答不能50嗎委員你是凍結452跟454併在一起併凍90 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
25540.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
25548.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
合併啦 凍結九八歲 不好意思我本來都不想再說那麼多 我再說一個啦 本委員會的陳委員 人家說行政權跟立法權要分開 他要做行政權要做立法權 共理會議到12月底就沒有了 他自己都不想再試一次 他不像一個共理會議的委員 他現在一個專家諮詢會議的委員 他那個任期要到明年2月底欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
25565.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
25575.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
所以現在民會叫得比較高的要繼續做行政部門的委員要繼續做二月底才會人家跟他講了他還不主動辭職勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
25578.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
25597.976 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
不是只有共理會議現在又發現還有一個會議叫專家諮詢會議來這要做專家去做專家禮拜是時的啦啊你要做禮拜喔這個專家諮詢會議喔好是時的自己不可以死就要叫人把他關下台還要等到時間期限到了才願意自己下台這也未免太厚顏了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
25614.975 |
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好452跟454合併動90453謝謝陳慶輝委員同意取得主決議455謝謝陳委員取得同意改動捷健保業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
25616.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
25617.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
一百萬提書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
25636.402 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
25643.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
458謝謝陳委員已經取得同意改為主決議459陳昭之保留460水電費好保留461461是對林委員的取得委員同意簽名改動100萬凍結100萬462 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
25664.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
25673.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
謝謝陳慶威委員舉得同意改動解完善健保醫療費用總額及給付機制業務費200萬動200萬不是那個保費收繳用上面這一個健保健保的醫療費用總額及給付機制這裡這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
25691.211 |
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25717.068 |
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蘇昭偉好像早上也有講過這個蘇昭偉早上也有講過這個我們有接到許多的反應就是沒有法源依據的攤扣還有河山等等行政措施達到今年年底的點值0.9元所以各級醫療院所已經難以負擔了而且違背這個保障醫護權益的宗旨所以這邊是動哪一個項目200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
25718.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
25724.844 |
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那個完善健保醫療費用總額及給付機制的業務費好 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
25729.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
25729.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
263水電費464動節80萬465 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
25752.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
25768.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
466謝謝陳慶惠委員改為主決議467謝謝邱政軍委員取得簽名同意改主決議468謝謝蘇貞偉取得同意改凍結100萬提書面報告469謝謝王育民委員同意改為凍結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
25778.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
25780.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
動決100萬書面報告470是不是跟450剛剛已經併案了處理了470 450併案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
25794.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
25801.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
動多少?兩百萬471謝謝陳慶慧委員同意改為主決議472盧憲毅委員同意改為凍結五百萬提書面報告473謝謝盧憲毅委員同意改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
25818.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
25818.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
主決474476477 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
25832.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
25842.655 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
呃...劉建國委員是不是可以...我們同意...同意...同意...同意...同意...同意改回...凍結健保業務50萬凍結50萬?他講...他講...他講好誰啦?等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
25857.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
25861.849 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
478陳昭芝的保留479陳慶輝謝謝陳委員同意改為主決議主決議480謝謝陳委員已經同意改為凍結完善健保醫療費用總額及給付機制100萬元提議書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
25883.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
25887.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
483委員同意修正文字後遵照辦理484遵照辦理485遵照辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
25914.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
25916.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 再來 火箭鼠 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
25943.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
25961.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
他講的 他講的啦 他講的啦 適當 適當 適當快點快點主席很累 你要感謝林書威 他們的施工愛高國建署適當啦 適當 高高隊 升高隊好 4.5好 謝謝 那個推員已經簽名 呃 變 呃 動案 動300 待會變556 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
25969.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
25970.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
動300合併556對556556為主動主案 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
25977.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
26004.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
494949494949 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
26007.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
26029.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
501謝謝王正熙委員已經同意簽名改為主決議好謝謝主決議502謝謝王正熙委員已經同意簽名改為主決議好主決503謝謝陳建復委員已經同意簽名改為主決議504504不要說凍結一千萬凍結一千萬不要在台灣不要亂說了好505 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
26033.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
26034.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
505以病556動300萬那以簽名 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
26063.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
26067.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
556動300萬好並556啦好好好506謝謝趙委員以同意簽名改為主協議好507507謝謝這個陳委員以簽名改為主協議好508謝謝蘇趙委員已經同意簽名改為主協議509謝謝陳建華委員同意簽名改成主協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
26092.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
26095.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
五一一五一一五一一五一二 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
26122.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
26130.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
謝謝我們蘇貞薇同意已經簽名改為主決議謝謝我們陳建威委員已經同意簽名改為主決議謝謝我們陳建威委員同意修改改為主決議已經簽名 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
26147.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
26159.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
五一六謝謝我們陳慶威委員已經同意簽名改為主協議五一七水電會五一八民主委員五一八應該全數檢列一支萬而已啊二十一萬而已啊二十一萬我都整個整天都要心理上一星期不給你刪掉檢列二十一萬啦八千 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
26173.757 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
26174.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
謝謝廖委員已經同意簽名改為主協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
26200.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
26202.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
五二零五二一五二二五二二 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
26217.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
26222.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
五二三五二三我稍微講一下因為這個是許多家長反映的這個因為我們健保都已經進入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
26237.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
26261.815 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
虛擬健保卡快易通或是健保APP都推行的不錯嗎你們也朝這個方向邁進所以對大家來說媽媽手冊寶寶手冊這件事情可以做到電子化來對父母親友善希望說動100萬然後我們可以在半年內提出一個很完整的進程這樣子好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
26262.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
26269.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
好523動100萬半年內要完整的宣布報告來委員會要來委員會報告嗎?524 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
26275.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
26284.321 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
謝謝王正希委員已經簽名同意修改為主決議謝謝邱振英委員已經同意簽名改為主決議謝謝楊耀委員已經同意改動100萬書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
26294.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
26308.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
您委員這個是因為我們慢變的防治我知道委員對於慢變我們整體的績效認為說需要改進因為高血壓高血脂高血糖的這個盛行率繼續往上爬升繼續往上升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
26310.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
26325.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
全國大家都這麼高度關注自己的健康國人自我管理健康管理一直很高度在重視政府也花很多錢一直在防治在宣導可是為什麼他的盛行率卻無法下降還一直在創新高所以這個代表我們國建署有待努力26億凍結1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
26329.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
26333.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
五二七凍結一億五二七凍結五千萬書面報告委員會跟他同意才能動之五二八謝謝我們蘇昭惟已經同意簽名改為主決議五二九謝謝我們錢謙委員已經同意修改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
26357.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
26358.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
五三零五三一五三二有 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
26376.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
26401.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
凍結一百萬五三三五三三五三三謝謝我們王毅民委員已經同意簽名改為凍結並凍結三百萬以五五六為主案五五六跟五三三並凍三百萬是這樣嗎是五三四謝謝我們邱正俊委員已經同意修改為主結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
26403.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
26430.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
五三五謝謝劉建國委員已經同意簽名修改為主決議五三六陳昌思保留五三七謝謝我們圖建基委員已經同意修改為主決議以簽名五三八謝謝我們陳建國委員已經同意簽名修改為主決議五三九謝謝我們邱振進委員已經同意簽名修改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
26432.597 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
26448.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
五四零楊耀謝謝楊耀委員已經同意簽名修改為主協議五四一謝謝我們蘇詔維已經同意簽名修改為主協議五四二謝謝陳建威委員已經同意簽名改為主協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
26450.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
26470.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
五四三謝謝我們陳年委員已經改併國民健康署業務動一百萬合併國民健康署業務動一百萬五四四陳昭之保留五四五謝謝王一平委員他已經同意簽名併556動三百萬併556啦動三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
26477.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
26479.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
五四六五四七五四八五四九 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
26501.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
26527.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
的簽名已經同意修改為主協議。謝謝邱振英委員已經同意簽名修改為主協議。謝謝楊耀委員已經簽名同意修改為主協議。謝謝陳寧委員那已經同意簽名修改為主協議。謝謝陳千惠委員已經同意簽名修改為主協議。 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
26528.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
26530.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
五五五五五五五五五五五五五五五五五 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
26540.112 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
26566.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
這個就是我們在講那個癌症新藥的支付我們今年提撥了50億到這個健保裡面可是這個是一次性的裁員那我們要求就是說裁員要穩定然後落實法治化然後到底是要怎麼樣處理政府的態度是什麼那其實我們很多人都已經提出了癌症防治法要求要穩定的裁員然後法治化 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
26567.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
26588.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
國建署到現在沒有提出任何的對策所以我們的訴求就是說大家要想說你到底未來要怎麼做不是今年50億就算了那未來要怎麼做你要提對岸對策你提出來了我們當然就解凍了政策上你要凍結多少凍結41億裡面的3000萬啊劉建國有另外一案提凍結5000萬啊好那就凍結3000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
26592.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
26621.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
556557558559 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
26622.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
26648.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
主協議五六零五六零遵照辦理五六一遵照辦理五六二遵照辦理五六三遵照辦理五六四遵照辦理五六五修正文字以後遵照辦理五六六修正文字以後遵照辦理好那我們今天就到這裡社家屬不要跑嗎社家屬你要跑跑掉了不會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
26658.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
26671.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
本市會議作以下結議。中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管公務預算尚未審查完畢。明天晴期四早上九點繼續審查。現在休息。 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
26675.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
26681.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
他就想急著要逃。 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
26698.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
26702.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利部主管公務預算部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
26849.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
26849.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
本集完 |