| IVOD_ID |
164059 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164059 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T13:09:38+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T13:19:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edceb6a49e337779c65eadaba87319979820384c49a5c493879739038d26760b9c95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:09:38 - 13:19:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長及行政院食品安全辦公室就「重大食安事件處理之檢討與食安稽核人力不足問題」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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你好 麻煩請部長謝謝好 又請施部長委員好部長好 我們現在在討論這個食安問題嘛在前政府啦 蔡總統時期一直強調食安五環可以確保大家的食安沒有問題但很顯然喔 這個事件就是獨大腸事件它是從源頭管理就出現問題 |
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剛剛我有看到包括執政黨立委都非常不滿譬如說之前因為今天沒有環境部啦但是環境部那個時候也是跟大家講說食安五環的第一環源頭管理要一些化學添加物他都要管理沒錯吧所以積極遊說大家成立讀畫局 |
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而且還要花錢去建置化學雲就是說那個如果有相關的化學的東西要登錄然後如果他的流向是比較不正當的地方 而不是不正當啦是這個讀大長時間有做 |
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跟委員說明剛好這個雙氧水H2O2沒有在化學雲應登錄的項目沒有所以那時候化學雲在建置的時候沒有思考到工業用雙氧水會拿去洗大廠 |
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沒有思考到這件事情當時候沒有當時候沒有那工業用雙氧水有沒有可能也是去洗別的東西有沒有可能除了洗大腸之外有沒有可能洗其他食品造成也是一樣毒食品的狀況有沒有可能 |
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就是這個如果是食用食品級的H2O2的雙氧水是可以做我是說工業用啦我是說因為它食品級可以用就有可能被混進去用啦所以工業我們才會說納入那個 |
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部長因為今天環境部沒來啦我跟你請教一下你覺得工業用涮氧水應不應該被納入化學雲的應該要把它應該那為什麼之前政府講的好像源頭管理多厲害啊食安靠政府啊有政府就沒問題啦結果連一個工業用涮氧水當時在建置化學雲的時候都想不到 |
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跟委員報當時候在考量哪些要納入的時候他有考慮到第一個是他的那個風險程度啦他的毒性啦他顯然就判斷是準嘛如果今天如果那時候講那麼準的話我們今天也不用討論這個題目了嘛 |
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所以今天沒有環境部因為但是食安主責單位還是衛福部是不是可以請衛福部跟環境部講清楚那個時候建制化學研究所講得那麼厲害然後結果連什麼該納入什麼不該納入都有漏掉的這個國人會覺得很訝異啊特別報告一下因為雙氧水H2O2它其實經過時間之後它其實就變水了所以它本身的毒性當初的想法它是毒性低的 |
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所以相較以前的塑化劑相較以前的毒澱粉的 |
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所以你覺得不用納入嗎所以署長覺得不用納入是不是當初是這樣子的想法所以你就不用再講當初了嘛我們現在就已經我們現在就是在討論這個毒大腸事件你還在跟我講當初部長剛剛都說應該納入了所以你覺得不該納入嗎所以我們現在覺得他應該需要我現在只是講說會不會你當初認為風險比較低的東西其實他的風險比你想像的高嘛 |
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工業用雙氧水就是嘛就是它的用途多啦對用途多嘛所以它就有可能變成風險高的東西所以我是說請衛福部跟環境部建議好不好就是說重新再去思考一下哪一些化學添加物應該要被納入的就是從之前認為風險比較低現在發現從這個事件 |
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未來可以把它納入了 你們跟他們建議一下從食安的角度嘛 好不好 第二個跟文報我們會去盤點 這些化學添加物哪些是還同時有工業用的 我們一起做盤點一起做盤點啊 好不好 讓那個化學雲建制的有用嘛 好不好第二個喔 這個應該就是衛福部的業務啦就是有一個 你們有一個登錄平台叫做非登不可嘛 |
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我們去查了一下這家屏東百貨公司好像飛燈不可也沒有他的資料對他沒有登錄那你們當初在宣傳飛燈不可的時候還拍影片啊還做一大堆宣傳說103年12月31號以前沒有登錄的人業者是不可以營業的而且在宣傳的時候嚴格到什麼地步連那個送外賣的都要登錄啊結果一個做大廠 |
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做這麼多的不用登錄為什麼所以這個違法沒有登錄我們就給他重罰因為我們這個要求就是要去登錄那你故意違法漠視這個法律規定這已經有一段時間了所以我們才予以重罰所以前面的源頭都出問題嘛 |
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你沒有辦法從源頭這個角度去處理去把食安的問題把它防避啊不管是化學雲啊飛燈不可你現在是事後罰嘛但是飛燈不可應該是屬於源頭管理嘛對不對那所以如果源頭出問題那衛福部應該要怎麼解決勒 |
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這個還是要強制去做 我就事後把事後把大家的那個大腸都吃下去了而且這一次那個大腸事件其實有賴很多下游業者自己自發性的跳出來講了比如說像阿周麵線他是自己第一時間跳出來講嘛所以他有進嘛對不對 |
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那如果他沒有一開跳出來講等到衛福部或地方衛生局去查查查然後他又沒有登錄沒有登錄會增加查的時間嘛所以很可能如果不是業者自發性有良心的業者自己出來的話吃到肚子裡面的更多啦所以這也是一個很大的漏洞啊 |
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對 所以部長要怎麼解決這個我們會去加強這個登錄還有上下游的串聯來讓我們掌握住哪個地方的環節可能要怎麼加強上下游串聯前後 就是你一定有 |
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下游嘛下游你要去核對說那你買的貨源是不是合法有登錄的來源這些是整個上下游要串聯起來這個是我們現在在做為什麼要讓他這個通通上平台那麼從產至銷通通要一條龍把它串起來就是這樣 |
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好那部長你們應該會提一個檢討報告出來吧因為今天大家也問了很多嘛那顯然有一些只是比較抽象概念沒有具體的做法那是不是會有一個比較具體的做法對來跟那個至少一個報告給大家參考一下從這個案件呢從這個案件我們會做一些內部的檢討還有哪一些環節可以再強化的這樣 |
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所以你也覺得食安五環有問題嗎還是有強化的作業上有很大的問題啦是之前吹噓的太厲害了啦好啦再來喔我跟你問一下那個缺藥的問題因為現在有很多藥都退出台灣了嘛 |
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那魏福布的態度是覺得影響不大因為有很多替代性的用藥是吧跟委員報告我們現在健保供應的藥品是一萬四千多項那這裡面這一次呢今年登錄先來通報說他打算在六個月間會這個停止提供的大概這四十七個項目這個我都知道這個新聞都有報啦你們也都有講過我的問題是說這裡面都是有 |
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有学名药的因为福布讲的是说因为有学名药或者是替代所以影响不大这个全世界大概都是这个趋势实际上我们就听有些医生反映例如说像化痰药气疏痰其实它退出市场其实很多病人很多人在反映这个药那当然你说有替代药但问题是好像有人用了替代药效果没有气疏痰那么 |
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以這個藥這個Visobon來講它是印尼廠那是因為這個代理商跟這個印尼廠的合約上出問題那是不是因為你價格砍到他不敷成本所以印尼廠商都不願意做所以他現在尋求另外一個所以實際上是跟藥價還是有關嘛 |
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那我是觉得如果是药架我们都可以来调整因为你们在那个药哪一些药本来是自费药要纳入健保药这一块我是听很多医生在讲有时候健保署就管得太宽了有些药 |
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有些病人他就是願意自費去做因為他比較好願意自費但是硬要把那個自費藥變成健保藥然後又砍藥價人家就退出去變得原本要自費都用不到其實這是一個問題第二個是像有一些藥如果你要把它砍到價格夫夫成本那人家當然只有退出但是你講的又是說那沒有關係退出就退出我們有全民藥我們有替代藥品可是使用的狀況就是不如原廠的藥來得好最後受害的還是病人 |
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不過我覺得在處理這個藥價的部分你要考量的點很多啦因為藥品不是一般的產品藥品是方方面面都要考量啦這個確實像委員說的這個需要考量的層面很廣所以到底是不是給予這個所謂的病人自費的差額負擔就可以解決這個問題我們會再更審慎的去評估好 謝謝好 謝謝 謝謝部長請問 |
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謝謝葉委員 |