| IVOD_ID |
164037 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164037 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T11:52:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T11:58:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edcfc6ce7e2d98edfe285f90000f7f2f0ab54e55ddf1b168a3142d906fa9f5dffe95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
郭國文 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:52:27 - 11:58:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長、經濟部部長、原住民族委員會首長、國家通訊傳播委員會首長、行政院公共工程委員會首長、行政院主計總處首長、內政部首長、教育部首長、交通部首長、環境部首長、文化部首長、勞動部首長及衛生福利部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及728豪雨災後復原重建情形」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席有請內政部董事還有包括我們公共工程委員會李副我們請次長還有副主委 |
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委員好董事我不希望你們觀察到這次兩次的風災整個中央的這個步伐有些不一樣是顯相對而言花蓮的部分的步驟就比較快那為什麼這樣個案的差異就因為一個沒有一個通案的機制所造成 |
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因為在個案的差異之時我會造成就是因為我災防法的這個內容當中定位在協調各縣市也就是中央是用協調而不是指揮是這了解意思嗎所以當台南的時候變指揮所到地方到花蓮的時候就變協調所協調所就依照這個災防法 |
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那簡單的講遭遇災防法還有許許多多該修的地方應該把那位階有所提升功能要強化然後要通案有一個機制而不是每次都是臨時組合所以說我個人是認為應該要修災防法不知道次長的看法怎麼樣 |
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那谢谢委员的提醒我们目前也在讨论就是说相关灾防法的修正以及经过这几次的混合型的天灾复制核心天灾的一个状态那当然就是说我们还是要强调就是说灾防法跟地质法里面都有明确规定事实上地方政府本来就是在第一线我当然知道地方政府撇开不了责任但是地方政府要摆烂的时候或量能不足的时候中央就是一个很关键的角色嘛次长 |
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麻煩回去好好思考一下將來我們就再回來做對話我請李副李副是這樣子我就說前後有差別的地方就差別在哪裡那相對的剝奪感就出現了你看同樣是死亡 |
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到了這個花蓮就變100在台南就80也不過是兩短不到兩個月之間的差別而已那同樣是要運用善款為什麼花蓮就要給他100萬然後台南就80多增加20萬就是善款我想衛福部在這邊對不對善款的部分我也去查過了目前整個衛福部的專務當中還剩下一億多那台南離來的也不過9個人 |
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有差這20萬嗎20萬乘以9不夠200萬市長李副國之所請教你是因為你長期在台南待嘛你很清楚嘛你認為這樣合理嗎 |
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我想跟委員報告一下啦這個因為主要是這個慰問金的部分還是來自於政宅基金會的來源對啊對啊對啊對啊政宅基金會因為那時候其實像兩個災害其實給人家感覺就是基金會那時候對外的募款帳戶都有散款所以我們也會尊重政宅基金會這邊的一個裁員的規劃那個就請林次回去研究一下嘛好不好 |
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就上款的部分可以彈性處理的部分報告委員這邊正在基金會當然這些給付的標準還有這次的給法都是行政院這邊的公告不過委員這邊也像剛剛委員所說到的我們在這個丹納斯颱風的專款裡面 |
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當時是5億3千多萬那現在是合發掉4億1千多萬那這一億多我們再跟 就是說包含這個結婚董事長還有跟行政院這邊來做請示好不好再給本席答覆 謝謝林次然後李副我再請教你一下另外一個部分你也在災區待那麼久你看這一次的這個特別條例當中有一條預備金這丹麥斯颱風特別條例 |
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當中有一億呢就用在車輛受損的這個部分登記但是用的範圍只限於花蓮你看喔汽車的部分五萬然後呢機車的部分一萬那相對台南呢中央這一筆預算都沒有用到你覺得合理嗎 |
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他是取作的丹奈斯重建特別條例喔預算喔台南只有台南市政府汽車一萬然後另外的機車五千而且台南的部分的這個汽車的部分還錯過了這個貨物稅上路的時間前後來來加起來十萬耶副座你要不要回去好好想一下這個我們回去來研究一下對 一眼不一定花得完啦 |
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一樣是涵蓋災區的範圍七月跟九月嘛不應該有這樣的差別的待遇嘛好不好 這可以嗎這個也很重要很關鍵啦好不好 那訊息給本席答覆啦我最後一分鐘問一下那個NCC好不好 陳主委 |
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309.518 |
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陳主委裡面走我明明跟你講這個NCC三大電信業者的部分號稱在7月20號的時候就恢復95%我在表格上面有165%但是呢它所謂的有其實沒有包括品質慢或品質差只管有不求好啦但事實上在8月的時候本期在災區跑的時候還是常常斷訊也以至於說8月7號的時候會開放漫遊的結果 |
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我結果要求說不要從7月20號來定位成補償的一個基準然後8月7號就有三家聯合抵制他們不聽從因為你不是補助單位你是管理單位啊所以你這個部分你應該想辦法你後面還有一個所謂的災害漫遊機制作業要點的時候是不是應該把災害賠償計畫一併納進去呢我知道他們三家都不瞭你啊 |
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353.873 |
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跟委員報告 這一部分我們在我們大概有前後兩次找他們來開會現在他們從寬從寬從優惠認定現在台南 嘉南地區還有高雄地區大概有超過10萬的那個那個日期優惠的用戶有適用日期不是7月20號到8月7號 |
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382.996 |
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在他漫遊 他這個部分應該在延後處理 要擴大最重要的部分喔 本席提醒你啦要強化韌性的目的啦在於他資本要不要支出啦 要不要投入啦最重要你要要求他加入這個共同廣告的建構當中才有可能啦 否則一直附著在台電啦 風險一樣很高啦我沒有要求他在跟相關單位配合在特別是在都會區一定要盡可能地下化 |
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390.97 |
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特別是不是都會區啦 可能會造成孤島巷你都要面對啦好不好 陳主委好沒問題 謝謝謝謝 謝謝郭國文委員質詢 謝謝 |