| IVOD_ID |
164032 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164032 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T11:33:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T11:41:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edcc00f12eb903aa36deadaba8731997982a407684b3aac8590e268ef1662321ad75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
盧縣一 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:33:00 - 11:41:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長及行政院食品安全辦公室就「重大食安事件處理之檢討與食安稽核人力不足問題」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席有請部長來 有請部長盧委員好部長好前面的委員都講很多了不過我還是想就針對這個工業用酸氧水這個問題來問幾個問題這次我們在地方我們的衛生局的角色是在哪裡 |
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卫生局我们当然这个现场的稽查还是会由这个卫生局所以还是稽查对对对那像什么比较重大的实案事件我相信它都会有些危险性在对那其实我们在地方服务的时候稽查员他其实常常抱怨就是他们工作时间太长 |
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然後如果比較像這種比較重大他們希望旁邊會有人幫忙比如說可能會有人身安全的問題在這個時候有達到這些他們的基本訴求嗎大概有兩個考慮像這個案件如果涉及到刑事處刑法的部分的話我們就會也通報檢調來共同處理那如果是一般的稽查如果認為有一些這個風險性 |
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我是希望部長能夠重視他們的安全還有他們過勞的問題我們從去年看到這個死亡數大概有10個人我想知道說就針對我們去年我們原住民小米這種事件家屬有些人會跟我反映說有沒有國家賠償機制因為他們的家人莫名其妙的就不見了 |
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有沒有國家 台東那一個那個那個是他是這邊稍微提一下因為後來確定裡面小米種是是農藥所以農藥這部分其實在查查到底什麼原因原因是怎麼樣子摻進去其實目前是在那我說這部分沒有國家賠償機制嗎 |
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我想這部分跟要確定要符合這個這個國賠啊那國家賠償的話是要這個過程當中有公務人員他的這個執行上的問題造成家屬說沒有這方面的一個 |
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好 那這個工業用酸氧水我覺得剛才完整協議委員有提到說異常採購的問題大家都會知道說為什麼會沒有人會想到說會用那個工業用的酸氧水這個異常採購的部分你們有到現在為止有一個改善的措施嗎 |
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就是如何避免讓這個工業用的雙氧水流入到我們的食品鏈當中所以我剛剛有特別提到對 就是說要去把這個雙因為過去我們沒有把它列入在我們跟這個化學雲的溝基的一個項目裡面我們會把它 |
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那我剛剛看了就是你們的報告就是大概針對114年的我們的經費關於食品安全的話我看到了109億關於衛福部是29億要特別預算的話這邊有10億那我的意思是說這麼多的錢用在食品安全這邊那我們的問題還是一直在層出不窮你覺得這個錢是有用對地方嗎還是你覺得有沒有地方要改進我們當然這個一方面 |
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補充能力還是需要啦因為剛剛很多委員都提到這個現場的集合呢也需要耗費人力所以這個人力的補充還是有他的必要性目前人力大概規劃到599位嗎 |
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因為你現在是167加463然後再規劃24再加45算是599嗎因為他分成中央跟地方那以地方來講是增進對就是現行是463另外再補充45是508 |
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我要凸显的问题就是说其实美国的那个我刚刚有去查就是美国的关于食品的机场大概有六千五百人他们的人口是三亿十千也就是说刚好是差不多我们的十倍那我们的人力也差不多是那个样子其实我发现这个这次的问题其实不太是人力的问题而是我们刚刚早上那个林士芬讲的那个行政究责跟制度改善的问题 |
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那才可以去真正的把這些想要有點從中獲利啊或者是不法的這些不具良心的這些業者呢來揪出來所以應該是從這個方向來前進可以嗎部長可以可以我們會去強化我們內部的通報還有這個行政的稽查的這個執行這樣那我還是再次強調我們稽查員的人身安危下一個就是我上個禮拜上個月有去我們就是 |
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徐超兵醫師的喪禮我有去看他其實他就南回醫院這個部分你目前的想法是什麼目前在南回我們已經有跟台中縣政府合作已經把本來的南回衛生所把它變成南回衛生所暨緊急 |
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醫療中心把它擴大上像有略具這個醫院規模不是小小有了因為我常常經過那我要主要說現在他們有凸顯一個問題給我就說他們其實在輪指的時候來值班的其實都不具專科急診專科醫師所以希望說真正去指那個南回急診醫療照護中心這個位置的醫生希望是急診專科醫師 |
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我們要不惜重金因為那邊是唯一可以治療的地方它距離台東市跟訪寮都有一個小時以上的車程可以嗎它目前主要是由包含台東馬街還有高一還有幾個 |
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來協助那個人力的資源24小時的急診他們是希望都是急診專科醫師的話我們再來了解一下目前是有24小時我上個月有去納瑪夏就是針對我們納瑪夏衛生所他本來在山上就是距離他們現在部落生活的地方非常遠所以我們有在做前置作業那高雄市衛生局也陪同我們去做初步的一個概算是2000萬元 |
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不过它有一个前提是说希望它河边的整治能够做好我在9月底大概9月25号也去配合我们水保署的一个1900万的一个防治八起工程的计划也准备核定了已经核定了准备来测试所以我希望说他们水保署这边已经有努力这个1900万我希望卫福部能够宽列这个2000万在明年或者是近几年把他们搬迁卫生所这个心愿能够完成可以吗 |
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好 我们来努力来协助好 最后一个就是无人机的问题这次在我们太巴朗这边有三分钟就把药品送到灾区的经验让人家觉得说为之惊艳就是说这么好可是我们在盘点的时候会发现我们原住民地区其实就是5G没有升级然后地方的通讯都不好其实光有无人机也不行一定要把这些通讯设备弄好 |
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那我大概有看到就是說這邊有寫到專次長說有些三大方面來推動那可以做簡單的解釋嗎是這樣 我們有編列了往後明年開始有一個三年的AI的計畫這個無人機就包含在這裡面 |
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那這個無人機就是從三個方面第一個是說那個缺口打算要可以適用這個無人機的點在哪裡包含它的起降點等等還有航線的規劃所以這個要把它盤點出來第二個是法規的部分也要去做 |
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讓他可以更常態性的去運用第三個就是那個協調中心因為他有跨部會需要合作我希望部長能夠請我們衛福部我們園民會跟消防署做一些調配看看哪裡需要就哪裡來強化然後剛才說的他的通訊一定要正常才可以行事謝謝謝謝委員謝謝盧先生的發言謝謝部長 |