| IVOD_ID |
163964 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163964 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T14:37:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T14:43:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0d573d7691941066fcea2f7e777e01e95441e0052ed6558bb2eac597dcc0aeba65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:37:50 - 14:43:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、勞動部部長及衛生福利部部長針對「災後復原重建及清理因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另邀請國防部、經濟部、內政部、賑災基金會列席備詢。【10月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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麻煩請衛福部長謝謝請衛福部時部長 |
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業餘好部長好 我想請教一下10月5號賴總統去災區就是說每一戶要給20萬的房屋修繕補住這個錢是從捐款來的是不是先確定一下我們現在整個行政院擬定下來的家園支持方案一共有三個部分一個是復原未住金那個是由特別預算我的問題很簡單 不要閃避就是他那20萬是不是捐款來的 |
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还是中央变预算然后后来由总统宣布加码我就问说他那时候去宣布这20万是捐款还是我们的政府的预算就这么简单是由捐款来的那另外还有一个家园支持15万 |
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也是中央宣布的這是捐款還是政府的預算家園支持裡面有兩個一個是10萬塊是由這個內政部的特別預算另外有5萬是由這個專款捐款所以政府宣布 |
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有這個20萬的房屋修站費用以及家園支持5萬25萬都是從捐款來的那你一開始政府去宣布的時候大家還以為是政府編的預算其實是從捐款來的嘛那捐款就是大家都是捐給花蓮啊為什麼不直接發錢給他們就好還要說什麼名目什麼名目 |
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因為所有的捐款他還是要有符合的項目科目所以有些人就質疑因為捐款本來就是給他們的嘛不必要說有科目專款專用所以大家就會覺得說為什麼連這個東西都要好像變成是這個是中央給你的其實這個是民間的善款嘛 |
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都是大家的我現在就來問一下捐款的問題因為像有的捐款呢他政府收到之後呢他不會擅自決定怎麼用啦有的機關是這樣通常會成立一個捐款委員會好像以前來新北市的時候因為有什麼事情會成立一個專戶然後進到機關之後呢會有個捐款委員會來決定錢怎麼用那我想問一下這一次這個衛福部有針對這個部分有成立捐款委員會嗎 |
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這個基金會本身的運作因為他是公社財團法人所以他是由行政院先會去討論核定說那有哪一些是符合這個捐款的專款專用的目的然後就會由相關的部會去提報計畫那麼送進這個基金會那基金會會有一個審查的程序 |
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是由基金會來審查那現在基金會是已經募到10億以上嘛然後已經撥了4億7千萬到衛福部的帳戶對不對那衛福部拿到這4億7千萬之後是怎麼運用會不會有一個衛福部的委員會來決定錢怎麼用然後就譬如說會有一些民間的人士專家律師然後或者是甚至災民代表一起來討論這個專戶的錢怎麼用會嗎 |
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就是說他要撥到衛福部之前的有嗎 我知道啦 前端有啦沒有 都已經是確認用途才可以撥所以這4億7千萬怎麼用已經確定了都是確定的那接下來 因為當然大家有這個民間的善款啦大家都希望公開透明啦可是實際上我們去看了那個政災基金會的網站 |
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是非常的粗略像你如果去看他的募款計畫列了四個在這邊有0923馬太安西的114丹納斯0403花蓮政災還有一個烏克蘭的援助你實際上點進去看其實內容是蠻少的可能沒有辦法做到公開透明那我這邊建議如果說您部長這邊講說因為417在政災基金會就已經討論過怎麼用途那其實實際上你就可以放上去嘛 |
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253.189 |
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270.703 |
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對就可以放上去嘛這第一件事情第二件事情啊我在那個政災基金會有一次開會會議記錄裡面看到一個點啊你看一下部長看一下他說第六點他說建議基金會可參考投資各項投資管道增加基金會財務來源啊你知不知道投資有賺有賠有風險啊 |
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272.711 |
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288.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
那如果你正在基金會的來源是捐款的話那你把捐款拿去做投資如果賠怎麼辦那這個上面的會議是講說原則可行喔要等衛福部回覆那不知道衛福部回覆是怎麼回覆不可行啦 |
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289.091 |
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309.307 |
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因為我們這個都是專家的意見所以你覺得不可行都會有一些專家這些委員專家都會把他視為說好像這個是一個財團法人那麼他有這些錢的話應該要讓他能夠自營但是我們這個是公設財團法人他的目的 |
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309.887 |
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330.838 |
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就是對對沒有任何投資目前我們都不講那剛講就是錢怎麼用然後還是盡量公開透明是然後政府有預算就用政府的錢要用捐款要講清楚對對不對不要政府不要讓拿了民間的錢然後還還一副就是好像在這是我們政府給你的對這個讓大家有這個誤會好謝謝是謝謝謝謝謝謝葉元之委員 |