| IVOD_ID |
16396 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16396 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-19T08:31:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-19T12:46:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:14:30 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8d241381c4f8c7fc19061065897f096c838da8792fb05a3d78081dad70f87c466fa0d294722c5cdb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於法務部及所屬主管收支部分。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管「法務部矯正機關作業基金」收支部分。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管「毒品防制基金」收支部分。
四、審查法務部函送財團法人臺灣更生保護會、財團法人福建更生保護會及財團法人犯罪被害人保護協會114年度預算書案。
五、併案審查
（一）委員徐巧芯等18人擬具「外役監條例第四條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員王世堅等19人擬具「外役監條例第四條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員陳玉珍等19人擬具「外役監條例第四條條文修正草案」案。
【第一案至第四案僅進行詢答；預算提案於12月24日中午12時截止收件】
【12月18日及19日兩天一次會】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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各位早安,現在繼續開會我們首先介紹到場的委員還有應邀列席官員先介紹到場委員黃國昌委員接著我們介紹應邀列席官員首先是鄭明謙部長黃謀信長志鄭屋次長黃士傑次長 |
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綜合規劃司司長王文德司長法制司司長洪家元司長法律事務司司長劉英秀司長檢察司司長郭永發司長保護司督導參事林哲慧參事國際級兩岸事務司司長孟義梅司長 |
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1941.274 |
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秘書處處長、曾慶東處長人事處處長、張佩華處長會計處處長、郭怡芳處長資訊處處長、林美秀處長統計處處長、吳敬堯處長檢查總長、邢太昭總長釣魚局長、陳百利局長 |
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1972.264 |
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稜政署署長馮誠署長稜政署署長周輝煌署長行政署署長廟卓蘭署長法務部司法官訓練所代理院長柯麗林院長 |
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法務部白研究所所長侯寬仁所長高檢署範寶及耕寶董事長張斗輝高檢署台中分署甲長林錦春甲長 |
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台高檢台南分署甲長黃玉元甲長台高檢高雄分署甲長朱家綺甲長台高檢花蓮分署甲長洪培根甲長台高檢制裁分署甲長張斗輝甲長 |
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台北地檢署甲長王俊麗甲長市營地檢署甲長顏南威甲長新北地檢署甲長余立貞甲長台雲地檢署甲長余秀端甲長新竹地檢署甲長張雲齊甲長苗栗地檢署甲長蔡宗熙甲長台中地檢署甲長張介清甲長 |
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南投地監署甲長黃元貫甲長張化地監署甲長張曉文甲長雲林地監署甲長戴文亮甲長嘉義地監署甲長陳松吉甲長台南地監署甲長鐘和憲甲長橋頭地監署甲長張春暉甲長 |
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高雄地檢署甲長、洪信旭甲長、屏東地檢署甲長、陳英錦甲長、台東地檢署甲長、柯一芬甲長、花蓮地檢署甲長、郭錦東甲長、宜蘭地檢署甲長、黃志勇甲長、基隆地檢署甲長、李家銘甲長、澎湖地檢署甲長、陳家秀甲長、 |
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福建高檢署金門分署甲長毛友貞甲長福建金門地檢署甲長周世宇甲長連江地檢署甲長謝惠成甲長行政院主計總處檢任視察李培元司法院懲戒 |
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行政創集懲戒廳法官陳彥霖內政部警政署警政監彭麗娟補充介紹到場的莊瑞雄委員 |
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本日上午議程討論四項排定計五案第一至四案為審查一四年度中央政府總預算案關於法務部及所屬主管收支部分等四案及第五案並按審查委員許曉清等十八人凝聚外議間條例第四條條文修正草案等三案 |
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其中第一至四案預算案僅為進行詢答,另外特別提醒預算審查相關提案於12月24日中午12時截止收件,預時不受理。請機關於提案處理前利用時間先與提案委員進行溝通協調,以利後續審查。 |
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現在進行提案說明及報告,請就報告及詢答方式說明。一例,機關報告時請就預算及法律案一併報告,肉於詢答時才綜合詢答。現在進行機關報告,我們先請法務部部長、政部長報告。機關報告時間為5分鐘。 |
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主席、各位委員、女士、先生今天應邀列席大院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會全體委員會議就114年施政計畫及收支預算案提出報告 |
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114年本部主管預算案系一施政重點本基於預算、臨基預算的精神通常檢討原有業務計劃及新興計劃,就輕重反擊優先順序編列而成以下檢究本部113年重要的業務辦理情形14年施政重點主管預算及附屬單位預算部分向各位委員提出包括進行指教 |
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那113年度的實現績效呢?一、落實五大基金政策維護社會安全。二、深化司法改革打造司法友善環境。三、接軌國際廉政趨勢建構廉政合作平台。四、推動多元人權教育完備現代法制。五、善用預政管理科技化強化矯正人權的處域。六、強化 |
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保護措施、完善溫暖有感的柔性司法、其推動科技化措施提升行政執行績效、把強化司法付出網絡、深化犯罪調查周圍及推動智慧資訊系統提升治安防護的 |
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任性那有關的預算執行請請稅務這部分本部主管113年稅務法定預算數新台幣97億4837萬2000元截至113年11月底執行率為99.71% |
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稅出部分本部在113年稅出法定預算數436億2391萬2000元含動資二倍金3000萬元截至113年12月底執行比例為90.52%各項業務計劃推動得順利。113年施政計劃重點及預期績效 |
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一、根據推動武打期間政策執行禁品專案打擊妨害綠能產業發展的相關犯罪。 |
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二、關切司法改革合理化檢察官的工作負擔,完善規劃司法精神病院與AI輔助提升效能。三、建設聯合國防貪污公約,辦理透明、精緻、講深化、廉政合作平台。四、接軌國際人權規範推動轉型正義、平復司法及行政佈法、完備民事及行政法制。五、強化國際司法合作打擊跨國洗錢犯罪組織。 |
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六、AI輔助預證管理多元基訊強化塑形能復歸資源的連結。七、整合資源推動社區處域完善被害人權益保障制度建構無難有感的柔性司法。八、AI提升行政執行績效、快意合作執行各項專案具體實現公益價值。那主管預算的部分稅務 |
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本部114年稅務預算共編列93億1040萬元,較113年減列了4億3797萬2千元,主要是 |
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違法罰金刑事保證金及章政務款預期未領依規定繳酷等收入檢列手製。至於稅出部分本部主管114年共編列稅出預算456億2262萬4千元較13年度增列了20億2871萬2千元增幅比例4.65% |
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這部分除編列本部及所屬這機關人員的維持基本維運、資訊、設備、派發、建築物耐震補強、工程及辦公室擴淺鏡等外,並配合重要施政、計劃、編列預算。 |
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詳細編列請你請參閱書面的一個資料。至於附屬單位的預算部分,矯正機關的作業基金,114年業務重點是精進作業產能,增加業務收入,引進外部資源提升技能訓練成效。三、推動受薪的自治境外作業。114年預算編列總收入115258億1千元。 |
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總成本與費用相抵後短出一億八百九十六三千元是外溢間修正條例修正後以及自主作業遴選區間列作業減少所致固定資產部分改良擴充編列六百八十六萬六千元那毒品房子基金施政重點是主要補助新興毒品的房子教育及宣傳 |
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改善少年毒品的問題、施用毒品的成癮治療等。另外、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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短處2156.3千元是可支用基金的餘額來預計餘用基金的餘額的支用。至於今天要就病案審理那個審議那個 |
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審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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這個延長一般的階級執行期間落實中央處理、協助提升受刑能力、護規等是可以徹底踐行外醫監的階段性處理的功能並橫屏外醫監制度所生社會效益與社會大眾安全的需求。 |
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本部對前開的修正,我們是全力的配合共同精進,今日委員重新就外衣間制度提出修正草案的用心本部深感敬佩,期待及時管理,使法治國家周全完備以上報告敬請主席及各位委員指教請問一下列席的官員有沒有人要做口頭的補充報告 |
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所提書面報告均列入公報。機關報告完畢,相關書面內容請各位參閱並列入公報記錄。 |
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王世堅,你是幫...你有提案是不是?因為我看這個表上面...你是幫...那我們就先做,還是要請那個...好,那我宣告完馬上麻煩你齁。好,那我們現在因為那個王世堅委員沒有到場,那有那個莊瑞雄委員待會兒先打齁。來,待會兒做提案報告說明。 |
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謝謝張偉,我們在場委員還有列席的一個官員,王思天委員還沒到,那我來幫忙做一個提案的一個說明。萬一間瓢列,我們上次的一個修正是在112年,當時社會的一個案件,我相信輿論 |
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當初有很多的一個討論我們去做外遇間條例的一個修正把原先的積極的一個資格來加嚴並增加了消極資格的一個限制也因為現行的第四條第一項第一款的積極資格遴選條件過於嚴苛所以也讓現在就符合條件得以遴選到外遇間的人數這個大幅的一個減少 |
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外遇間的一個定位剛陳儒部長所講到的就是連結受刑人來復歸社會的一個中間處遇那並非是一種所謂的一個特權的一個階級那既然本條例已經在消極資格上將所犯之罪來做一個明定而且也授權法務部另有遴選的一個標準 |
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那積極資格的部分那就有討論的一個餘地所以本席跟王思堅委員這個一個共同提案裡面外議監條例第4條跟第21條條文的一個修正草案把原先的積極資格去修正為受有期徒刑而且已經執行超過6個月那這本次的一個修法 |
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我們要特別強調並沒有去調整消息的一個資格並且繼續賦予法務部擁有最後臨選的一個決定權而在法務部已有最後臨選辦法的一個前提之下外遇間的受刑人的臨選條件 |
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部分,我們這次就提出來做一個討論,以利於受信人在服刑期間得以逐步適應社會的生活,出獄以後也可以盡快去融入社會,讓外遇間真正去發揮它的一個功能。這個是本期來做這樣的一個提案的說明。等一下我也會針對整個受信人累進處獄的部分,對於法務部我們來做一個就教。以上,謝謝。 |
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我們補充介紹陳俊宇委員我們現在開始進行詢答本會委員詢答時間為6分鐘必要時延長2分鐘非本會委員詢答時間為4分鐘並不再延長上午10點30分截止發言登記我們現在請發言登記第一位的黃國昌委員發言 |
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謝謝主席,事事麻煩,有請我們的法務部正部長、最高檢察署刑檢中長、廉政署馮署長、台北地檢署檢察長、新北地檢署檢察長。 |
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委員長各位早,時間的關係不一一問候,時間緊迫直接切入有關於就業安定基金被濫用的事情我在未完委員會直接點出來 |
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用公帑買的東西跑去送私人的親友甚至在招標的過程當中跟廠商有圖利綁標的問題這件事情先北地檢署動作非常的快我先肯定下一個問題不是只有這100多萬買禮品有問題現在現在 |
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審計部大概簡單的看了一下就有五千多萬遭到濫用就這個部分檢方啟動偵辦了嗎?這部分台北地檢署已經立案偵辦了台北地檢署已經立案偵辦了有列被告嗎?許明春是不是被告?這個有告發有告發所以許明春是算被告陳菊是被告嗎? |
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目前不是告發的對象只有許明春嗎?許明春這個案子的辦案有沒有上線?這個我想我尊重檢察官的偵辦檢察官是有證據到哪裡就辦到哪裡好很好大家都聽到拭目以待喔新北地檢署辦謝宜龍大家認為民進黨政府的斷點辦得很快喔 |
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往上辦的時候辦的速度辦的角度辦的深度就是社會大眾大家在關注的重點不要到時候我們自己檢方辦出來的結果比我們審計部做的還糟糕是不是會這樣我不知道不預設立場我們接下來繼續往下看 |
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八八黑金洗錢集團這個事情我從我還在民間社會的時候我從2022年啊就持續的追蹤我追蹤一路下來啊我必須要老實講啊我們的政府說打詐要打洗錢 |
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辦這些案子辦得哩哩啦啦我為什麼這樣講我先從小明郭澤民開始講當初去88會館的檢察官把他放走好不容易抓回來追究檢察官的責任我從2023年一路問新北地檢署什麼時候要給行政調查報告結果我拿到的行政調查報告今年8月一切合法沒有為師 |
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所以現在法務部的立場是針對這個先去88會館接受招待然後又把小明、郭澤民放掉的檢察官連社會上面普遍印象不佳的監察院都彈劾了但是你們的行政調查報告是一切合法沒有違私對於新北地檢所交出來這樣子的行政調查報告請問法務部背書嗎? |
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這部分有關於去88會館的這些的檢察官我想那個請針對問題回答我沒有那麼多時間不好意思新北地檢調的行政調查報告法務部是不是背書這個問題非常的簡單明瞭這個我們就尊重那個新北的一個尊重新北地檢署來請新北地檢署檢察長 |
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這樣的行政調查報告等於是在幫這位檢察官背書認為監察院的彈劾沒有道理是這樣嗎?這部分的報告我們已經寫在報告上我們認為說檢察官當時在那個我了解啊你們的報告我全部都拜讀了就是回給我的公文嘛但我現在的問題是什麼從2023年的3月到2024年的8月 |
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連監察院都彈劾了你們的行政調查報告還是一切合法沒有違私啊讓人看了瞠目結舌啊所以以新北地檢署的立場來講監察院的彈劾不當是這樣嗎?在接下來懲戒法庭的審理過程當中新北地檢會力挺這位檢察官是嗎? |
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目前沒有通知我們你去看沒關係啊你們實際上面的作為怎麼面對自家人的一個檢察官跑去88會館後來把他放了你們的行政調查報告是一切合法沒有違適啊那個標準啊比監察院還要低啊讓人瞠目結舌啊有問題的還不是小明欸這一些有關係的人都很厲害啊屠城文一樣 |
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偵辦屠城文地下會對洗錢案檢警跑到瑞森銀樓的私人招待所這個都是客觀確認的事實啊已經是洗錢犯的犯罪嫌疑人還有檢警跑去瑞森銀樓的地下私人招待所如出一側模式一模一樣屠城文跑了來請問一下現在屠城文到外沒有 |
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有人知道嗎?有人關心嗎?有人在意嗎?在同期中同期多久了?怎麼跑的?我上次問的時候說要偵辦,偵辦的進度如何?查無不法,謝謝指教這不是第一次問啦我上次問的時候說要分案偵辦嘛怎麼跑的? |
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電話局局長請上來不好意思啊部長您的問題還沒有回答他的問題是下一個現在申辦的進度如何是哪一個地檢署在辦來請台北地檢署申辦的進度如何因為他目前通緝中啊讓我們有當然在通緝中嘛那要不然你們在申辦什麼 |
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我上次問的時候就是問人怎麼跑的嘛這麼厲害都招待檢警事前都收到封都有辦法先跑屠城文、郭澤民的模式不是一模一樣嗎這些詐欺洗錢的有設招待所的都知道可以先跑大家都這麼厲害 |
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上次問你們說要分案偵辦偵辦的進度如何?包括委員這個通緝就是分案這個通緝就是辦案另外我們有針對這個案子有發動這個具體搜索另外也有5個被告也都被生壓獲准所以這個案子我們有繼續在偵辦當中就泄密的部分呢我們也會查查的進度呢我們要根據這個檢察官收證的情況所以到目前為止沒有進展 |
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是吧目前為止我們仍然在努力當中來請調查局局長這個人有在調查局的通緝查報的專開上嗎重大的犯罪調查局有一個通緝犯查緝通報的系統嗎照片都要出來嗎他有嗎這個部分我要 |
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來調查局的同仁協助一下你確認以後再上來回答這個問題接下來更扯第三個林秉文一樣是88會館我們鄭文燦的麻吉林秉文一樣88會館洗錢現在人到哪裡去了部長有沒有掌握 |
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您比我們現在,因為這個已經起訴了,這是法院在審理中這個...你說得非常的好啊,所以臺北地院就不想背鍋啊趕快發新聞稿啊,說你們一開始的時候就沒有限制出境啊人跑的臺北地院的新聞稿啊,在暗指什麼?在暗指是檢察官的責任啊那我現在就具體問一個事情嘛 |
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當初在台北地院審理的過程當中林秉文因倒庭而沒有倒庭立體的檢察官在睡覺嗎?有任何積極的作為嗎? |
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這個是審理中的被告要不要限制出境出海或者是整個羈押或交保那個我想這個要尊重法院新北沒有錯啦新北地院這個是法院的職權法院的職權嘛但檢察官發現該到的人我們沒有申請權然後跟委員報告我們在審理中的被告我們並沒有申請權請你把問題聽完好嗎 |
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在審判程序當中立庭的檢察官發現人不見了不用促請法院為職權的發動嗎?具體的回答什麼時候發現他不見什麼時候促請法院為職權的處理 |
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訴請,我們訴請我們沒有這個,我們當然可以訴請,但是在法律上我們並沒有申請,所以我們沒有違背職務的一個問題,我們沒有失職。所以有訴請嗎?請針對問題回答就好了。請依法處理,這就叫處理,因為這個法官可以依照刑事訴法有關的相關法草的機制來做一個處理,這是法院的職權,那我們檢官必須要遵守法律。 |
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那個主席啊是不是可以跟部長溝通一下等我問題問完請他回答問題可以嗎是不是可以主席請部長回答問題就針對問題回答不要插嘴可以嗎因為這樣子的話社會大眾關心的根本就不知道我問什麼他答什麼嗎 |
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是不是可以請主席處理?麻煩部長,請針對問題回答。好,謝謝主席。部長,我來請教一次。立庭的檢察官發現該到庭的人沒有到庭了,什麼時候促請院方為職權的發動?有做這件事嗎?檢察官有跟法院表示說請依法處理。什麼時候跟法院做這樣的表示? |
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當庭就這樣處理了?當庭就這樣表達?當庭這樣處理喔?對,這樣表達是在哪一個庭裡面?幾月幾號的庭?這個是在12月12月5號和議庭和議庭的時候就12月5號的時候才請法院處請法院依照職權處理嗎?我為什麼拿這件事情出來問? |
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社會大眾很憤怒啊大家看不下去啊不是只有一樁啊先是小民啊再來是瑞生銀樓的啊再來是林秉文啊大家關係好的消息都很靈通啊人就跑啦結果今天部長您是這種態度 |
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防腐好像檢察官可以做的全部都做了他跑檢方也沒辦法也很無奈是這樣嗎這個是我們現在檢方辦案的態度嗎來請教部長人抓的回來嗎 |
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十二月二十六號開庭再來拘提笑死人啦人現在就已經在國外了現在是期待什麼他自己坐飛機回來開庭讓你們拘提喔太可笑啦 |
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上一次我請教我們的檢察總長所基層的檢察官看不下去請法務部開課要學習怎麼被媒體經營然後總長說你不是很清楚沒有關係從上次質詢完到現在我相信總長有去了解基層的檢察官點名北檢的檢察長高檢的檢察長檢察總長是歷史罪人我再強調一次這不是我說的這是基層的檢察官看不下去 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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然後呢10月25號跟我說分案處理了依照偵查不公開檢討小組會議依法查明真相來請總長您10月25號發函到現在目前查處的狀況如何跟委員報告喔委員提到的問題喔 |
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這個偵查不公開的問題是個很重要是2017年施改國事會議的決議那剛剛委員那天指導之後我們有交到台高檢署他們現在正在調查中因為現在正在偵查中他們無法調卷但是 |
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那天回來之後我們有請我們檢察官這個研究之後我們有研究一個對策就是這個建議事項其中有一點我們建議這個參考美國的法制定定、偵查、保密令把證人、證人還有一些相關的人都列入這個規範的範圍而且提高法律的慰藉提高刑案 |
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第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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你覺得啊,你說要給證人,基本上像是美國的Gaggo Oat,這個我知道,但問題是,這個跟我所檢舉的案子有什麼關係?所以你們現在是在懷疑說這個秘密證人自己去外面講嗎?這個當然是有關係啦,因為這個偵查不公開已經是歷史上一個問題,事實上在立法上,請你針對問題回答。所以IMB的案子你們認為是這個秘密證人自己跑去跟靜州刊講嗎?是嗎? |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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有這麼蠢的事喔!跟委員報告齁這個是週刊他是有跟那個 |
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關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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全部都沒有檢方的人15個人全部都警察來對我們斯坦國事會議做了這麼重要的結論了以後最後查處出來的結果全部都警察檢方的一個都沒有對這樣查處的結果部長你滿不滿意我相信我們檢察官在偵辦建築會嚴守偵查不公開的一個規定 |
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檢察官當然嚴格遵守偵查不公開的規定那等於是2017年的時候施改國是會議做的這個決議全部都是廢話因為大家都遵守嘛2017年的時候遵守2024年也遵守嘛過去這7年查出來最後怎麼樣 |
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過去這七年查出來一個檢方的都沒有全部都警察我們不能說就是來不好意思主席最後一個問題今天法務部的預算我看了預算了以後來來來法務部112年、113年、114年每一年都有編一般事務費辦理部外聯繫、考察及新聞發布大概都編了大概150萬這個錢拿來幹嘛的 |
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這個錢拿來幹嘛的這個錢編在你的預算書裡拿來幹嘛的你應該很清楚啊這個是屬於這個是就是跟記者就是以來記者來參訪來了解我們法務部的各項業務及所屬間的推動的情形去辦記者的參訪嘛法務部所屬各項推動的狀況嘛來我們看一下實際實踐的結果2023年 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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4056.406 |
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4078.831 |
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這個...你看裡面的行程嘛!這個...這個不是...這個委員...這個是我要跟委員說明齁這個我們是利用各種的場合來做一個宣導大概不是說只有宣導這個就是跟做簡報這個行程本來就是要做簡報嘛!但你到機關去的時候也就是要直接實地去瞭解機關的一個業務推動然後開會的時候要在高鐵站的會議室嘛! |
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請問部長 |
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適合還是不適合?這個我們這個預算本來就是要做本來就是要做這個事的嘛!我不是要做這個事齁,這個我要作為一個澄清齁這個我們就是要做了解優惠的情形請你針對問題回答錢這樣子花適合不適合?錢這樣子花適合不適合? |
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請部長你就直接回答我們的委員的問題啊到底適合不適合我們是落實執行我們這個預算的一個執行這個是跟媒體落實預算的執行喔那等於是當初過這個預算的委員不對啊而且委員這個做簡報做那個報告不是只有在高鐵站 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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這個到機關做簡報這個其他的我們就其他的一些的一個一個一個整個一個除了實地上的參訪當然我會安排其他的參觀行程沒有關係啊因為我行程全部都掉出來了嘛我行程都掉出來了嘛是不是適合這樣做全體的納稅人心裡會有一把尺嘛我今天只是要布展一個態度你也可以說適合啊這個行程很充實啊一樣啊 |
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二、審查2024年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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晚上喝成這樣喔這都是現場的照片啊我為什麼挑出來講很多檢察官在問嘛要教一教開課教大家怎麼經營媒體關係啊我秀給大家看要怎麼經營啊就這樣子經營嘛經營得很好啊這個預算我一定提案三法務部要捍衛我也OK |
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你要去找這些記者來圍剿我,我也沒有關係,但我的信念是什麼?納稅人的錢不可以這樣花!來,出國,來來來,接下來請馮誠署長。參加國民國際透明組織這場考察花了多少錢? |
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我們的這個預算的部分用的不多我們是使用那個外交部有給我們大概300萬的錢國防部有給我們50萬的錢那主要是負責全部都是國家的錢嘛對但是那個所以總共花了多少錢 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
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跟委員報告一下齁其實我們在國際中連政交朋友這件事情我們其實是蠻用心的是是是這個我了解所以我才具體的請教完你這個考察完最重要的啟示是什麼你有寫在出國報告你你忘了嗎你忘了你在裡面寫什麼嗎我很用心欸把你們去的我全部都拜讀完欸所以我才請教你嘛你最重要的啟示是什麼 |
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我跟委員說齁,其實我們這一次去齁,呃,大概像我們每次出國的時候齁,我們都是希望在跟國際間齁,在那反貪腐這件事。是!對,就是說這樣。所以你最重要的啟示是什麼?你講兩點出來就好啦!第一就是反貪腐的一個經驗上的交流嘛。然後第二就是增加我們國際間的一個能見度。只有這樣齁?我認為是這樣是最重要的。啊你還記不記得你這個出國報告寫了什麼?你還記得嗎?這出國報告是你寫的嗎? |
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出國報告不是我寫的不是你寫的啊你在出國報告表示了什麼你記不記得出國報告裡面的內容蠻多的啊是是是是所以我沒有問你嘛我沒有要你背行程給我聽嘛我只說你最後去參訪的這個你得到的啟示是什麼嗎這個有這麼困難嗎那我跟你講啦我覺得我們來我給你看啊 |
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去完了以後說什麼?馮署長關於立陶宛施行接避者保護法立陶宛的接避者保護法是只有公部門還是公司部門都受規範?法務委員齁,跟您先再澄清一下我並不是出去玩的在這一次沒關係,你出去進行非常重要的考察那結果你的結論立陶宛的吹哨者保護法是只有公部門還是公司部門都有?跟委員報告立陶宛的這個接避者保護法是公私並行的 |
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你想起來了嗎?你想起來你在這個報告表示什麼了嗎?不是想起來我不知道委員要問這一個部分啦那因為報告的東西蠻多的嘛來參加亞太經濟合作組織APEC第39次反貪腐極透明化工作會議去的是沈鳳梁副署長嗎?沈副署長有來嗎?他沒有來沒有來嗎?OK好沒關係我下次有機會的時候再請教不好意思喔再用一點時間謝謝 |
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現在請陳俊宇委員好,謝謝主席那我們今天各位列席的首長還有我們媒體先進各位同仁大家早,主席我們先請鄭部長好,有請鄭部長 |
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我們今天所要審查的不單是法務部及所屬單位的預算收支還有兩個基金和三個財團法人的預算還有明年度工作規劃也一併都進行討論其中包括有一些跨年期還有跨部位的新計畫也要在明年度開始來進行 |
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其中我想先就打擊毒品的工作概況以及未來的政策規劃來就教我們部長行政院自106年開始我們推動新世代的反毒策略行動綱領4年投入了100億到了反毒策略第二期從110年到113年更投入了150億的總經費 |
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行政院上個月核定的反讀策略第三期預計在未來四年也要再投入150億那從106年實施第一期、110年實施第二期到今年度收尾的這個階段我想就教部長我們在反讀策略所主責的這個任務是否有達到預期的一個計畫所要達到的一個目標 |
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一、審查113年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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降低的趨勢。再來就是需求的降低也就是說我們怕新收的、新增加的吸毒人口形象這樣的趨勢像今年一到十月查獲到也比去年同期減少了1.3%我想這部分是相當不錯另外還有減少毒品的危害主要是因為吸毒會發生死亡的一些現象所以譬如說施用PMA的致死人數 |
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總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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那法務部還有所屬機關在114年度對於第三期反讀策略所編列的預算大約是6.6億左右那比第二期的113年還增加1000多萬那我想請教部長這預算提升是出於工作的這個項目增加還是有其他的原因? |
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我想這個是我們在做第三期,它是與時的一個拒禁。與時拒禁,那我想我們會達到整個一個,我們現在會用的增加,我們事實上就是阻斷供需。阻斷供需減少這些的毒害。那另外我們也,現在那個毒品吸入人口,我們也希望它復歸社會。 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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那計畫當中所涉及的這個工作涵蓋多種面向但我想就其中一個主要的議題就是對於新興的毒品的迅速變化我們在新的這個反毒策略中要如何來及時因應尤其現在這個新興毒品的樣態還有來源都非常的多元讓民眾和家長都非常的擔心那我們法務部如何來避免這些新興的毒品流入市場也避免它進入這個校園 |
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這個就是因為毒品怕流入校園所以我們要對內壓制要有那個安具企圖專案跟校園侵存的一個專案我們希望這些毒品能夠透過查記來做一個對內在境內的壓制 |
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收支部分關於法務部長 |
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也做一個列管物資跨國比較及毒品先驅營業預警平台及時的預警那對毒品是不是我們再升級再做一個管制列為毒品那這部分我們也會再做隨時的一個檢討好那我們除了這個阻絕毒品之外借飲治療還有防止個案的再犯也是工作的這個計畫之一我們現有編列這個關乎毒品助理員的這個員額是否充足 |
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接下來是否還需要再增加人力?現在我們是大力來推動健療治療希望能夠復歸社會這些關乎人力這部分我們目前是有在做一個增加應該是64人我們想能夠越多越好 |
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人力足夠嗎目前目前當然我們不能說足夠啦齁我們就是盡量去把這個人力因為的確要做些因為這些人力最主要是戒嚴治療這部分的一個專責的一個人力齁那我們希望這些能力能夠再做一個擴充 |
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好,那我們也期待在第三期的這個新世代反毒策略能夠有更好的這個效果來打擊毒品的危害那比前面兩期的計畫執行之後更加能夠接近無毒家園還有無毒校園的一個目標那另外我想和部長討論就是這個預證這個面對的問題以及未來的政策那近年來台灣這個監所、超收和借戶比過高的問題一直都被檢討 |
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除了目前規劃中114年度彰化的看守所遷建計畫外,對於嚴重操作中部以北的監所,應該也有希望透過硬體設備的提升改善來紓緩擁擠的狀況。接下來是否還有其他研議中要擴建或是遷建的計畫要來推動? |
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主席 |
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報告委員除了我們巴德外醫監的擴建跟帳號看守所的這個簽件之外我們有增加就是臺北看守所及臺北尼子看守所在司法延期的一些簽件這些都會將來在北部地區或是中部地區可以紓解我們超收的人患以上 |
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張化的看守所明年底可以完工使用嗎?報告委員,我們預定是明年底,當然這些進度有稍微落後一點點,但是落後不多,我們都有督導張化看守所來加緊,來督導,保持他的效力。 |
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另外我也想關心我們監所基層同仁的工作權益。矯正署類似於移民署,不但具有較高的危險性、複雜性,也需要時刻來面臨龐大的工作壓力。 |
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包括有介護緊急外衣還有介護住院甚至是深夜進行移監等日常的業務。在上會期我曾經到宜蘭監獄考察當時在署長報告的過程裡面也聽到我們基層同仁的心聲期待能夠向內政部所屬工作人員的深夜危老津貼以及調整危險加急 |
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那後來也在這個審查的過程當中得知法務部有責成我們矯正署準備相關的文件和說明對於提高待遇的這個依據以及每年所需的這個相關預算能夠先進行估算的作業那我想請教那目前我們對於爭取深夜危老津貼及專業家級的這種調整爭取的進度為何那是不是能夠得到人事總處甚至是我們行政院方面的支持 |
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報告委員,我們部長非常重視生業的佳績。我們報人總,人總有他的意見,要我們再研議。目前我們還會在相關的一些理由補足,再來爭取。 |
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至於委員提到的危險津貼我們現在是分成直接跟間接這個部分我們會就收容人的收容人數跟機關屬性的風險程度再來就為風險分級的概念來盡力爭取人種能夠同意我們的相關的危險津貼的佳績 |
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好,那有沒有這個預期調整的這個幅度及這個可完成的一個期程?報告委員這個危險津貼這個還在研議中至於那個深夜加急100元這個部分我們會盡快再來報行政院 |
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好那正如前面所說的那在監所工作的這些同仁平常都要面臨這種高風險高壓力的環境同時這個監所因為他的特殊性及隱蔽性也屬於比較封閉的這種職場環境對於同仁的這種身心健康狀況甚至是職場霸凌的情形比這個外界來看我們比較難得知那這部分我們是不是也應該設置充分的這種協助資源和申訴管道讓同仁可以來做使用 |
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謝謝委員對我們那個矯正機關同仁的那個辛苦跟危險做一個關心那的確這個矯正署跟所屬各機關有訂定一個各機關員工協助方案的一個實施計畫另外心理智商這部分就是委由外部專業機構來辦理那我想這部分可以幫助我們同仁然後做一個影响一個友善環境一個關懷的一個機制那的確是我們矯正署的同仁是非常辛苦 |
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那些工作環境也是具有相當的危險這部分也謝謝委員的關心好那這部分我們再請部長還有署長多加重視也為我們辛苦的這個基層同仁來爭取相關的權益以保障他們的一個相關的這個工作的安全好以上謝謝部長跟署長謝謝委員請莊瑞雄委員發言 |
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謝謝主席有請我們法務部部長曾部長有請曾部長矯正署署長部長有幾個問題來請教第一個法務部你們跟別的單位比較不太一樣你們要面臨的 |
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5214.442 |
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很多在立法院裡面接受國會議員質詢的時候,面相會有所不同啦。所以我剛才看你這樣跟黃國昌這樣一句來一句去,那是對的啦。那不是他跟你說完之後你就點注注。那有些國會議員在這個地方講,每一個人在質詢。 |
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他有他訴求的一個對象可是站在法務部的一個立場的話你確實是應該把事情給去講清楚了但我本席今天要特別來提出這個問題來救教了就是說關於受刑人所有權力的一個累進的一個處遇要來請教我們矯正署這個地方到底有沒有研議改善的一個措施 |
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5263.777 |
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本席在從進來到立法院這世界裡面我在各個委員會我都盡量去但是來到司法法制這麼無聊的一個委員會裡面我反而會對於很多學者專家提出的一個看法比較有那個機會去做一個研讀那譬如說 |
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5284.325 |
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這個整個法制觀念的一個改變整個社會氛圍的一個改變這個廠長一走就是幾十年的路我想從2001年大法官會議528號解釋當初去講強制工作的部分他認為是合憲的 |
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5285.166 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
5306.844 |
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但是走了20年以後到2021年,施治812號裏面他又認為刑法第90條針對犯罪有犯罪習性的人遊蕩懶惰誠信而犯罪先進去勞動處所強制工作這個部分他提出批判甚至認為說違憲。就是說台灣瓜二十年後 |
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5310.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
5311.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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5328.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
5351.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
從2018年開始去做相關的一個研究那到今年的2月16號矯正署還有研商跟一堆的一個會議裡面我都一一今天要提出諮詢我都給你們給拜讀了那這些年來實務界跟學術界也在討論這樣的一個命題就受刑人你剛入監的時候接見跟發信的次數你受到嚴格的限制那就是處長這個你比較老你起來來 |
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5355.725 |
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5356.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
5381.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
5395.467 |
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這個其實都是有討論的一個餘地那我們如果從一系列相關受薪人的大法官解釋跟憲法法庭的判決裡面這個我們可以知道觀念就改變了你從4至第755號訴訟權4至756號通信權到4至812號強制工作這個再再都顯示受薪人的基本權的保障逐漸去受到重視 |
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5425.763 |
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可是呢當一個社會案件一發生以後啊你們全部專業的觀念全部又扭曲又扭轉了我們受到這個社會的當下的一個氛圍影響太大可是喔司法這個部分 |
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5427.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
5429.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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5456.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
5457.436 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管 |
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5476.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
5494.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
這奇怪怎麼偵查全部都揭露啊有時候哪是你們揭露是人家媒體懂得比你們還多啊有時候你們在辦案的方向還媒體跟你們提醒他掌握的資料比你都還要多啊所以到底是有時候很多案件到底是誰去洩漏偵查中的一個秘密啊有時候都很難論斷但確實啊如果一個偵辦中的一個案件啊 |
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5500.055 |
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5500.716 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
5516.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
5540.433 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
他們逐步在廢除累進儲遇到了2006年他實質上更改為限制的一個緩和也就是說分了很多集那另外還有憂鬱的一個儲遇來評斷可不可超過基本生活之外的一個享受那這個跟台灣差別太大台灣沒有辦法我們沒有這樣的一個進步的一個概念我們也認為這樣子的話好像壽星人到監獄裡面去是好像過得非常爽 |
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5544.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
5551.577 |
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那所以我想就教的就是說法務部目前到底有沒有研議替代處意這樣的一個方案就教署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
5554.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
5556.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
5580.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5580.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
稅務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
5598.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
5599.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
5623.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
5629.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
5653.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
5668.786 |
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時代改變了,你說這樣的一個方式還對嗎?過去的強制工作,哪是要讓它復歸社會?以前的強制工作,因為時代的不同,它是在改造你的思想。現在誰敢改造誰的思想? |
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5671.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
5673.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
5694.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
5709.973 |
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我們確實還有精進的地方你說你自營作業的部分我看連施茂林在當法務部長期間你矯正署也去推展了你所謂的一監所一特色比如說你台中女子監獄你就經典巧克力我們屏東監獄也做有名的或頂新醬油金門的頂新養生面確實帶來更高的一個收入那佔總體收容人比例6%也只有6%而已 |
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5720.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
5741.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
那間外作業的比例因為你壽星人需要外溢監的一個資格需要配合累進廚藝等級更高的狀況之下你那個人數更少了人數更少了所以本席要請教部長跟署長就是說不管你是委託或者自營或者間外的一個作業你關於作業基金的部分你們到底有改善方案嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
5765.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
報告委員委託的部分我們會配合直訊勞委會勞發署進來開相關的會議因為他們對廠商比較了解盡量朝著對受請人有利的部分來做一些意向還有委託的部分我們會 |
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5767.464 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
5768.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
5790.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
5795.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
護理工生部分結合優良廠商,讓受刑人可以在執行中有8、9千塊的收入,可以把這些錢寄回去給家裡做貼補之用, |
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5815.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
5819.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
5845.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
5871.496 |
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那是一種民粹就是說我們去看看外遇間的一個改變剛開始是補充監獄不足的一個功能後來慢慢發現它不能只是一種監獄應該給他更多接觸外界的一個機會所以因此慢慢演變成說監外作業的模式讓他可以早日跟企業一般上不能達到跟上班族相同但是呢是一個把外遇間視為一個中間處於的一個機構沒錯 |
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5875.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
5881.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
社會如果發生一個比較重大的一個案件的話立法院會有壓力這合理很正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
5882.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
5905.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
尤其是政府常常必須要去回應社會的一個需求。但是呢,我想來請教部長跟署長就是說,外間這樣的一個定位,你去把它做一個回想,從到去年,2023年之前,不管是哪一黨、哪一個政黨在執政,其實它都是進步的。 |
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5909.556 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
5931.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
5943.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
我們你消極資格我們把它做一個限定那最後的核准權還是在於你法務部耶所以書長您現在去臨選的人外遇間的狀況簡單的做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
5947.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
5974.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
跟委員做簡單說明,去年8月份我們新條例實施,那大概我們有臨險4次。臨險4次裡面,新條例到外遇監這些受刑人從來沒有發生過在工作中脫逃或是說他緩加探視沒有回來監獄報到。所以我們有兼顧到社會的安全。 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
5975.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
5978.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
5997.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
6001.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
6021.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
6026.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
6039.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
6039.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
6064.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
6093.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我告訴部長跟署長我去看到了台中女子監獄的一個外議監的分間我看那個林美玲她在2006年的訪談十位受信人裡面她也去認為說跟外界的溝通管道變多那我去另外2010年的研究裡面對外議監的修建農業發展創新並提供受信人的處遇北中南東外議監我的孟維德我也去拜讀了這是今年最新的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
6108.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
對這一些訪談的人以後都認為對於整個復歸社會是具備有成效的也就是說怎麼樣讓壽星人重新再回歸到這個社會今天我所提出這樣的一個修法我為什麼要做這樣的一個論述我非常一貫我就認為他 |
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| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
我們把立法院在整個消極條件我們去犯罪的類型我們去設定以後這個部分我們沒有去變動你最後的一個臨選裡面還是在你行政部門在你法務部積極條件這個部分確實啊我今天看到各黨提出這樣的一個修法是好好的來值得討論修正的一個必要以上謝謝好謝謝莊委員那下一位是審發會委員請 |
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| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
6153.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
是我今天對你很好,讓你充分發言。來,請省委員。委員早。 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
6175.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
6190.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
部長早我想今天我們大概就針對我們法務部及所屬的就是主管的機關的單位預算我們來進行詢答那所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
6191.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
6220.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
本席今天大概所針對的就會是針對我們這些相關的這些預算裡面我所本席所關切的一些部分首先就是因為我們在今年的7月我們通過打詐釋法其中重要的我們在刑事訴訟法的這個特殊強制處分專章裡面我們通過了這些科技偵查法制化的一個相關的作業那相關的立法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
6250.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
因此我就會特別關心這個我們這個科技偵查我們整個法制化之後我們相關的我們法務部幾個相關單位所屬機關的一個一個相關的預算是不是有所變動是不是有因應這個我們目前科技偵查法制化之後相關的這些科技作業科技偵查作業是不是有做這個預算的這些調整以及這個強化 |
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| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
6268.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
我大概簡單先看我們整個這個今年的我們法務部的單位預算以及所屬的包括調查局、廉政署、小政署等等相關的這些這些預算我這今年法務部的預算大概增加了4651萬6千元這是我們這個法務部部本部的這個單位預算 |
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6273.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
6277.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
6293.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
6312.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
那矯正署的部分我就另外把它列不納入計算,因為矯正署它跟這個科技偵查比較沒有關係,但是它有科技的相關預算,等一下也許有時間的話也會跟署長來討論。所以這些相關的這剛剛我講法務部、調查局、廉政署,光這三個單位預算,總計增加大概4億3千147萬。 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
6316.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
6331.153 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
這部分我更加關心的就是說我們這個科技偵查法制化之後法務部主管有哪一些預算是因為我們這個科技偵查所增加編列的,那增編在哪裡? |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
6332.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
6355.481 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
重點是這些新增的預算他的預期的成果預期成效以及他對於打擊犯罪尤其是這個這個在放在我們放在打詐治法裡面我們對於詐騙案件的這個相關的偵查以及這個這個相關的這些工作是不是有所幫助這個大概是我本期今天質詢的重點部長我剛我講的這些數字都正確嗎?是 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
6357.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
6375.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
所以我接下來我針對相關的計畫如果是所屬的我就會請所屬的長官上來部長你就在旁邊一同了解我想我首先我剛才提到這個增加預算增加最多的大概是調查局調查局這個今年度的預算增加了這個4億98004億989萬4千元我們陳局長 |
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6388.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
6411.466 |
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這相關的問題我可能就請局長來回答。局長好。我看我們增加的4億多的預算,這裡面我注意到有幾個新增編列的計畫,而且這新增編列計畫大概也都跟科技偵查有所相關。 |
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我這邊列出我找出來三個我們三個過去沒有的今年新增列的計劃一個是精進科技偵查計劃第二個是新型網路犯罪智能延期追緝計劃第三個是智慧司法與科技信任環境建構方案計劃這三個應該是新增的計劃對不對?那這個精進科技偵查計劃我們編列了878萬 |
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6443.342 |
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那這個新型網路犯罪智能延期追緝計畫我們編列了2,210萬智慧司法與科技信任環境建構方案我們編了1,397.9萬三項計畫加起來總共這個4,486萬那我這個 |
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這個這個在我這樣看就是調查局似乎有在在因為這一次的這個科技偵查的法制化之後有在相關的科技偵查的部分有確實有增列了新增的工作跟計畫但是我要了解這些計畫裡面卻有一些有一些實質的內容就比較不了解關於剛所提到第一個精進科技偵查的計畫我看你們其實是一個三年的計畫是不是一個三年的計畫他不是今年單獨的 |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬 |
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大概有兩個我比較注意到的第一個就是委辦費就是你們委辦希望能夠委託這個大學或學術研究機構就針對人工智慧新興科技建構筆跡輔助鑑識系統的研究費用 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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6548.931 |
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兩百一十六萬八千元來做這個臉部表情辨識軟體的設備在設備及投資的部分對不對這個是人工智慧的這個鑑識的這個部分 |
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相關的見識我關心的是相關的見識包括對於數位簽帳筆記鑑定是不是納入規劃那你們這個見識能力最重要是這樣子未來的見識能力跟他的正確性跟客觀性這才是數位辨識裡面最重要的關鍵你們所期待的成效是什麼樣 |
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我們希望就是說能夠在這個鑑識的過程裡面它的有效性還有它的那個效率能夠提高那目前是比較是傾向是用人工的其實面對目前這種新興的這種詐欺的犯罪其實是非常的不足所以我們希望能夠導入這個科技的這個能夠協助對我說具體的像剛剛這些數位簽章或是臉部辨識它對於打詐本身工作在哪一些部分會有所強化 |
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司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期司法及法治部長 |
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6652.393 |
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公務員報告,目前我們在做簽名的鑑定上面,大部分都是用手寫的簽名鑑定,這部分的鑑定率我們的正確率是很高。我們目前對數位簽名,因為數位簽名跟手寫的簽名 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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這部分因為是新增計畫,所以我們還沒有看到計畫的細目,希望在審查預算的時候我們能夠針對這些部分,我們來做進一步的了解。當然你另外還有這個新型網路犯罪系統延期計畫,那因為時間的關係我沒有辦法跟你一個一個細談,但是我比較,我這裡比較 |
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要想要了解的是我剛所談的這個計畫裡面的第三個新增計畫智慧司法與科技信任環境建構方案你們總共花了1397萬這個也是新增的計畫那你們在這個這個 |
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6715.066 |
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整個計畫內容裡面提到設備投資的部分提到說構置司法聯盟鏈共同驗證平台這個我很好奇因為我沒有聽過司法聯盟鏈這個名詞我是第一次聽到什麼叫司法聯盟鏈 |
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共同驗證平台我了解,那什麼叫司法聯盟鏈?你們大概希望提供建設這個平台之後希望提供哪一些這是一個開放的系統嗎?這是一個提供給什麼樣的人使用的一個平台?是,報告委員這個司法聯盟鏈目前是由五個單位組成的一個是司法院、法務部、高檢署、調查局、警政署司法院、法務部是不是?高檢署、調查局、警政署 |
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6767.74 |
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最後一個是什麼?警政署這五個單位組成這個我們會建置這個司法聯盟鏈主要就是為了要確認數位證據的驗證的同意性 |
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就是數位證據,數位證據它包括保全啦,數位證據的保全也是有一個問題啦,因為它這個東西是這個我看我們這個最高法院的判決,對於數位證據,它有確定使用數位證據這個用語它提到說,它這個數位證據它有無限的可複製性再來它複製之後無差異性,這複製之後你不知道這東西是複製的還是原件 |
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6806.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
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爭刪內容具無痕跡性製作人具不易確定性內容非屬人類感官可以直接理解像這樣子的這些數位證據的保全證據的保全以及驗證最重要是驗證 |
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6846.673 |
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所以你們建立這個,你們現在花了1397萬建置這個平台未來是讓你剛剛所講的這些司法單位大家都可以共同使用共同使用這個平台來驗證共同將他們所取得的這些數位證據納入到這個平台裡面嗎?是的,這個一開始的五個會員會先把我們的數位證據上到這個司法聯盟鏈由他的這個 |
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查湊值來確認說它的數位證據並沒有受到污染那未來會希望能夠有更多的司法調查單位甚至律師公會也能夠加入這個司法聯盟的運作大家在法院在檢查這個體系或是司法體系或是檢查體系大家對於數位證據的驗證能夠一致化保持它的一致性然後不會受到污染除了你講的這個司法聯盟鏈之外 |
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6877.915 |
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6883.432 |
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一般民眾、全民可以共同來利用這樣子建制的平台嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
6885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
6912.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
目前是沒有但是未來的發展它會有一個查詢平台在你們的預期關鍵成果裡面你們有提到整合規劃存驗證共同平台提供全民容易接近使用區塊鏈的服務它驗證分兩種一種是司法就是這個鏈上面的司法警察單位或是我們去做驗證但另外一個是民眾假設你被搜索了 |
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稍後請陳局長。 |
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6953.498 |
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你們現在這三個新增的計畫,這個部分我想本席是為予支持的,因為畢竟我們這個科技偵查法制化之後這個納入確實是應該要投入更多的資源,將這個科技偵查相關所需要的需求跟我們過去不足的地方,因為法制化之後我們可以編列正式的預算,我們可以進行精進。但這些相關新增的計畫,正因為這些計畫是新增的, |
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6956.34 |
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所以我希望這些計畫的執行,這個部分這個局長你負有督導之責,相關最重要的是每一個計畫它的預期成果,包括階段性的,三年計畫它今年的階段性目標是什麼?第二年階段性目標是什麼?我在你們的計畫裡面其實沒有看到你們所提的這些具體的階段性目標,具體的目標或階段性的成果。這部分我希望全局長能夠加強督促好不好?是,是,謝謝委員,謝謝。 |
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6991.11 |
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接下來請吳思瑤委員。接下來請吳思瑤委員。謝謝主席,有請部長。 |
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博言早博言早大家都辛苦了我今天要來搶救司法預算也是搶救我們法務部的預算因為打擊犯罪不能夠有任何的空窗所以大家要總動員來搶救國家的司法預算當然法務部的預算是屬於司法預算當中很大的一宗啊下一頁 |
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7045.132 |
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7067.189 |
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目前你們面對的三大預算危機部長真的是非常的險峻第一個在野黨揚言他們會大砍法務部的預算可能是基於對於個案的不滿可能是基於政黨的對立進行政治的報復我非常不樂見審預算要理性要專業 |
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7095.943 |
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第二個危機是總預算的審查已經延宕很久了依我們的法定職權要在這個月底12天後完成審查現在在野黨排了非常多政治的議案剩下12天的時間我們今天居然是才站上法務部預算的尋答我真是比誰都急第三 |
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7099.271 |
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7126.891 |
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藍白委員聯手惡修了財政收支劃分法之後嚴重的掏空了中央的財源所以部長這每一項都會強害我們的法務部不管是我們的各級的檢查機關不管是我們的矯正機關我們的調查局我們進行所有的犯罪的查辦防範都會受到嚴峻的影響下一頁 |
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7129.199 |
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7136.367 |
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這個是大家最近都不陌生新聞上一再的看到委員們一再的喊話、揚言、鬧狠話要大砍法務部的預算 |
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7141.636 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
7160.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
我前幾天在針對大法官人事同意權的行使的時候我聽到未來的被提名人希望渴望成為亞洲第一位女性司法院的院長張文正院長他說廣義的司法預算台灣編的司法預算只有國家政府總預算的1% |
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7162.842 |
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7179.11 |
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人均司法預算每一個國人享有的司法預算大概只有1100餘元1164元我們遠低於歐洲歐盟進步國家的中位數的一半都不到 |
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7180.296 |
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7208.075 |
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人力的部分也是我們對於司法資源不是預算就是人力嘛我們的人員也未達歐美進步國家司法人員的中位數的二分之一所以我們要搶救所有珍貴的司法預算法務部的預算就是要讓國家的司法能夠順利犯罪能夠偵辦然後所有的偵辦之後從檢察官到法院大家都不要過勞 |
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7210.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
7220.349 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
所以我替您整理出來連續三年過去在民進黨作為國會多數的時候我們至少捍衛了司法預算的獨立 |
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7243.005 |
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憲法增修條文第五條預算法第93條針對司法預算的獨立編列都給了非常大的某法的授權當然他多數的司法預算我的認知除了司法院當然一部分會落在我們法務部門所以說以過去平均三年的凍結數只凍結了487萬佔0.012% |
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| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
7260.753 |
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那捅刪因為有院會的捅刪否則委員會的刪減是更少的即便經過院會的捅刪Total法務部的預算也只被刪了3億2513萬平均是0.8% |
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7291.699 |
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所以我說我們要捍衛法務部的預算部長您一定要硬起來這是過去我為您整理出來的如果今年度有過當的被刪減被大砍我們要拿出強而有力的數據捍衛司法乃至於法務部執法人員的預算您同意嗎同意全力來搶救下一頁 |
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7315.527 |
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總預算其實沒有辦法通過過去在委員會還沒排委員會之前在院會就被擋了6次中央政府總預算因此新興計劃沒辦法執行高達2050億下一頁在法務部門如果總預算沒有辦法在12天後完成審查法務部 |
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7317.027 |
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7334.164 |
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從我們建立新世代網路犯罪追查平台的打詐升級的軟硬體再到我們要減輕所有的基層的檢查人員的人力負荷乃至於矯正機關要落實人權的保障來提升矯正機關的軟硬體加起來我們的新興計劃11.26億是沒頂沒當 |
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7341.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
7348.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
所以我要呼籲大家遊說預算,爭取預算不是只有部長一個人的事。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
7375.65 |
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大家要捍衛我們的工作權跟我們依憲法所賦予的職權大家都要動起來這是我對大家的期待大家服務的分區也取在不同的縣市但是我們都有同樣的網絡可以去向我們所認識的親近的我們深信是為人民的利益發聲的立法委員大家都要一起來捍衛我們珍貴的預算下一頁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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在打擊犯罪的部分警政署中央治安的相關預算減少或是受影響會受波及的有360億我們來看看法務部 |
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7414.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
7439.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
如果財化法被大砍了,法務部的可用財源會有136.6億可能受到波及,會遭殃。包括大家都要防毒,我們要查緝毒品,向毒品宣戰。6.6億的補助毒品防治特別收入的基金就可能受到衝擊。 |
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我們都關心所有的基層檢調人員的檢押高達21.1億的各級高檢、地檢署、辦理刑事案件、偵查及執行業務的經費21.1億會受到影響矯正機關我最關心矯正機關的軟硬體的提升來提升我們寓所或看守所的人權 |
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依據國際的人權公約但是矯正機關受到才化法的影響波及也非常的大對於收容人改善監鎖的計劃也都因此可能停擺當然調查局你們要精進所有的打詐犯罪的偵防提供更精良的武器的預算也都受到影響 |
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7510.425 |
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我整理出來打架司法通過之後但因為才化法的災難打架預算受影響會有28.8億。下一頁所以部長就教於您我們如果21.1億我要請大家動起來的理由在這裡 |
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7521.518 |
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基層檢察官的過勞我們依據的這一筆21.1億的補助偵查執行刑事案件的經費如果沒有了我們說的基層檢調人員的檢押根本就是如同空談部長你有什麼妙方怎麼來解決這個問題 |
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7540.137 |
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7544.363 |
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司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期 |
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7555.737 |
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7557.358 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
7582.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
7582.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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7598.823 |
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就是整個一個一個主要是在擴編的都是在一個除了人員的因為那個薪資的調整那個以外最主要的還是在那個打詐跟緝毒還有科技偵查這邊的一個增加今天時間有限我要趕快來結尾報告部長報告今天坐在這裡所有我尊敬的我們一起投入國家的檢警調 |
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7625.923 |
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7639.69 |
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優秀的司法從業人員大家要動起來我們要發聲我們要讓台灣的司法的獨立跟我們的辦案的品質擁有最精良的武器我們需要預算 |
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7664.164 |
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大家一定都要把這個聲音傳達出去當然我們也會透過審查跟協商的過程捍衛大家的預算下一頁部長兩個作業您帶回去矯正機關的簽件改建的計畫呢我們從101年到現在推了五所臺北監獄、宜蘭監獄、雲林第二監獄、巴德外益監跟彰化看守所 |
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降化看守所5.1億114年度新編的執行完了以後我沒有看到有其他的新的擴遷或是改建的計畫我沒有看到但我沒有時間來論述我整理了非常多的數字我們需要去擴建監獄跟看守所尤其看守所的人權的狀況是比監獄更為嚴峻的我需要看到你們新的計畫再下一頁 |
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7716.281 |
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過去推動一人一床的政策,但是也沒有反映在新的預算的編列上。所以我在這裡預告,我希望來年你們編列對於矯正機關的擴簽件的各項預算,我們一定全力來捍衛。我再次強調,監所本身,好,我們再看下一頁,對不起,佔一點點時間。 |
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7723.751 |
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矯正機關53%超收女收容人的人權待遇最差我沒有時間講內容下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
7726.311 |
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7753.549 |
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一人一床實施多年還有五成沒有達標而當中看守所的進度是最差的在下一頁法定收容人的居住空間過小我們已經嚴重落後了國際人權的要求現在法務部的這個執行基準是針對收容人的居住空間的法定0.7平2.3平方米遠低於歐盟理事會國際紅十字會的標準 |
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7779.027 |
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你們回去想一想你們現在的基準要調整而且現在的基準只針對監獄對於看守所完全沒有基準基於無罪推定的原則看守所裡頭收容的人權我們更要重視不好意思再用多一點時間因為預算非常的珍貴我提點的問題我們後續在審議預算的時候我們再來交換意見好嗎 |
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7781.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
主席有請政部長請政部長委員早 |
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| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
7810.526 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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7822.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
7845.568 |
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毒品。答對了,毒品。就毒品濫用的問題。這幾天就可以在新聞上看到,就是耶誕跨年即將到來,警方鎖定販毒集團大量趕至喪屍毒煙彈,準備趁假期繞一波。在台北、台南多地,警方都破獲製毒工廠,這個部長知道嘛,對不對? |
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7848.109 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
7850.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
7864.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
7885.604 |
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衛福部食藥署濫用藥物檢驗通報系統的非尿液檢體今年一到十月總共檢出了2905件比起去年的22件數量暴增132倍那部長認為原因是什麼? |
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| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
7889.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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7909.864 |
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7919.31 |
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事實上我們可以看到尤其針對這個所謂的喪屍毒煙彈目前我們在法制上跟查緝作為上部長可不可以稍微說明一下 |
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7946.914 |
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這個上市宴旦這個新興毒品這部分是我們青春那個校園青春專案跟案具企圖跟查緝的一個重點那我們檢察機關的指揮調查局跟警察司法檢察機關那我也最近對上市宴旦的查獲也非常的一個豐碩那這部分對社會都有一個報告是這部分持續查緝的情形我是請台高檢署跟那個調查局長來做一個補充有請局長 |
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7952.199 |
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7952.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
司法及法制委員 |
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7974.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
7976.904 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
8000.251 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
8006.679 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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8020.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
8039.141 |
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我們希望能夠達到這樣子的一個嚇阻效果啦因為那但是現在才剛升到二級我們不是那麼明顯目前還看不出來我現在唸幾個新聞給你看就來看看這問題有多嚴重實際上我覺得局長也好部長也好你們都在跟時間賽跑是因為那依託彌子上次煙彈的 |
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8061.602 |
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12月2日改列二級毒品人不怕男子30日吸上司煙彈駕車車體搖晃被打12月3日吸食上司煙彈昏睡路邊機警查貨火速逮捕送一送 |
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8075.208 |
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12月3日,又是喪屍煙彈,三重南開車斷片撞燈桿,腳還猛踩油門。12月5日,北市南駕車衝撞超商騎樓,警方查獲喪屍煙彈送辦。12月6日,單車騎士在北市路口飄移,車欄藏喪屍煙彈。12月8日,龜山警帶二案再生通緝犯。 |
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8091.815 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
8096.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
他自撞安全島,釣出喪屍煙彈12月10日19歲車手吸喪屍煙彈起檔,超商收賬款80萬落網12月13日 |
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8107.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
8114.363 |
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領口袋、試炸弦起訴二級毒品喪屍煙彈12月14日盤查改裝車毒冤央系喪屍煙彈招待12月14日台東男身上藏喪屍煙彈 |
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8125.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
8148.893 |
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12月15日富康巴士駕駛疑似吸食喪屍煙彈自撞兩車恍惚到連鑰匙都找不到12月17日男駕車蛇行險撞警車收出喪屍煙彈12月18日男獨駕連撞四車造成二女受傷起禍喪屍煙彈12月18日高雄男獨駕 |
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8155.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
8162.585 |
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關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
8203.006 |
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現在這種所謂喪屍煙彈這個毒品的狀況已經跟別的毒品有一個很大的差別它已經危害到一般民眾零零種種全都是毒價說真的我們民眾走在路邊不管你再怎麼遵守交通規則你遇到吸食喪屍煙彈的毒價的毒價犯請問局長跟部長民眾怎麼防止有辦法防得了嗎 |
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8222.249 |
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這個部分確實會到對於民眾的生命造成那個人身的危害啊那這也是我們必須要趕快加速努力的地方我剛念光念新聞啊我跟你講就17件啊19天17件啊每1.7天出事一次啊 |
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8223.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
8240.491 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
所以民眾在路上都要擔心遇到這些不定時炸彈這是真的當然我覺得要非常非常期待我們這個法務部檢調真的是該時間賽跑啦因為這個毒品的危害非常的強大 |
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8241.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
8241.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
議員主席 |
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8257.088 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
8257.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
稍後會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
8280.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
8281.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
8318.095 |
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有適用上市現貸或販賣的我們希望一定要去具體求証該羈押的就羈押另外我們所有的司法警察機關這一段時間有查緝的都有獎勵提高他的相關的一個獎勵對於還期數或者是一科罰金我們要求我們所有的檢察機關這部分一定要來嚴審另外網路的一個巡邏 |
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8320.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
8322.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
收支部分關於法務部總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
8348.211 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
8350.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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8356.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
8378.551 |
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我的建議吼,我真的我的關心就是真的是快快快啦,擴大再擴大,因為真的我覺得現在部長你也覺得很恐怖吧,因為這真的是走在路上行人是連防都不能防的,沒錯吧?對,這有一個獨駕在那邊吸了喪屍煙彈,然後他就昏了,然後就油門一踩往旁邊一撞 |
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| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
8381.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
8400.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
8403.088 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管 |
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8418.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
8442.836 |
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報告委員,的確,那電子菸的一個管理是非常重要,那目前我們也跟國建署還有相關的機關共同來去討論如何的強化聯合的一個茶器,那有效的從源頭來管理。我覺得尤其在電子菸這一塊,在它載具上面,它的進口販售跟使用雖然受到一定的規範,但實際執法情況其實相當受限。 |
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8446.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
8470.084 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
這一點真的我希望說因為它的後面造成危害實在太嚴重了所以因此應該要在電子業的管制這一塊我希望法務部能夠拿出具體的辦法最後我還是要講一下就是說本期的小結論就是說事實上已經不只是我們講說一坨米子現在還有毒販改化學式合成所謂的液餅帕子對不對 |
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8470.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
8496.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
所以它的變化速度又非常快擴散很快取得方便年齡往下降這在在對國家造成很大的危害所以我辦公室目前有針對電子煙器具還有三級毒品施用納入行則這些來提案那也參考法務部也編了不少業務跟基金在預算在反毒工作上希望法務部在法制工作上我們一起來努力支持好不好 |
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8498.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
8521.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
謝謝委員,那個一餅帕子那個已經列為二期了那另外那個電子煙載具這部分我們在反讀會報有提出來討論這是由國建署來做一個主政那有關於這個源頭管理這部分包括邊境這部分我們請關務署來做加強的一個查緝那另外還有網路巡邏的問題因為這是剛才委員有提到這個是屬於那個年齡比較低的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
8547.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
所以他可是不是由上網去購買有些利用這些網路去買那這邊我們是有些訴發部這部分也會再做一個處理當然這不會全是法務部所以在這邊齁因為法務部是最前線啦所以不管是說這個衛福部也好或者是訴發部也好總而言之情況是非常嚴重跟危急拜託真的政府聯合起來加把勁 |
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8548.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
8565.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
另外跟委員報告我們會怕那有些年輕的人從網路上看到這些的流動的資訊我們這部分也有協調替TWNIC能夠來去把它去相關的一個那屏蔽我們這部分我們一定會全力以赴拜託加油謝謝 |
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8579.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
8581.831 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
請翁曉琳委員發言有請法務部部長還有矯正署的周署長請部長跟署長委員好部長好署長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
8600.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
8615.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
我想大概法務部非常清楚了解本席很在意的事情就是針對保外就醫的事情我現在想請周署長你們告訴我就是說到底現在有多少受刑人士保外就醫截至目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
8621.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
8646.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
報告委員我們保外就醫的人數都會每個月會有所變動所以最新的數字呢?最新的數字是不是稍後一下目前報告委員有400多人400多人最長的保外就醫的受刑人是保外就醫多少年?這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
8653.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
8654.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
最長目前這邊是沒有資訊。超過9年以上的受刑人有多少人? |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
8676.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
8677.218 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
最長是23年,超過9年的呢?有多少受刑人? |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
8702.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
8725.214 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
我真的很驚訝,矯正署竟然沒有相關統計數字,而且這是很重要的訊息啊。報告委員,上一次我們有提供一些數據給委員那邊,但是因為他的統計有一個基準,基準點的不確定性。沒關係,你就以上次提供給我的數據有多少人嘛。 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
8726.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
8738.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
我的意思是說這難道不是矯正屬一個很重要的業務就你現在反而來問我說我記不記得請問今天其他的這個監獄的典獄長有在嗎?是不是都可以來匯報一下?跟委員報告我們是不是我們用書面來做一個答覆? |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
8751.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
8761.033 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
我跟你講現在這樣的情況你說我怎麼能夠不好好的去檢視矯正署的預算連這個最基本的數字都答不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
8764.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
8781.317 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
我本來其實不太想再提保外就醫這件事情矯正署就是特別針對這個周署長其實我對周署長很尊敬我完全沒有說是要特別這個去挑剔矯正署但是我今天看到你們的矯正署的報告我有感而發你說你要提升矯正機關的能見度要妥適調整收容人的技能訓練職類 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
8795.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
8812.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
我看到這個部分我其實的感想就是矯正署你不需要有什麼這個太多的經費去做矯正機關的能見度只要陳水扁他多參加幾次活動你們矯正署就有名了啦可以告訴我一下法外就醫的情況現在相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
8822.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
8842.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
法律的規定陳水扁的情況是符合保外就醫的規定嗎?跟委員報告我們保外就醫是以審查基準配合他的醫主來由台中監獄他每個月都會派人去...你台中監獄的那個監獄長有來嗎?有嗎?沒有,現在是審查預算的時候我希望他到 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
8853.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
8867.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
你們都沒有懷疑那個一族有問題嗎?民間人都知道陳水扁他早就已經恢復了身體的健康啊都還可以出席賴清德總統的就職大典口才辯解、頭腦清楚身體健康良好今天換成是任何一個受刑人有這樣的處遇嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
8880.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
8897.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
報告委員,有關這次那個國慶大典,淳水扁先生他也是在前一天他才確定能夠出席,因為這個是國慶籌備委員會邀請他確定能夠出席,跟你是不是要經過你的核准?請問一下組長,要不要經過你的核准嘛? |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
8903.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
8908.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
只是讓你們知道,不需要經過你們核准喔?那你們之前講的那些原則都寫好看嗎?所以你們可以拒絕國籌會的邀請,什麼叫做司法獨立?國籌會的邀請你們可以拒絕,是不是? |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
8931.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
8956.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
因為我們也配合一組一組方面覺得他參加這種所謂的國慶大典對他的身心狀況是有正面的幫助署長我跟你講你每次講這個話你知道嗎我把它撿起來放在我的短片短影片上面你知道有多少的民眾覺得署長您今天發言這是不可思議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
8957.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
8969.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
如果說您認為說陳水扁今天參加總統大典是有助於他的身心健康的恢復但為什麼不把所有的受刑人我們都邀請讓他去參加這個總統的就職大典我今天很感慨就是我們一直強調司法獨立法務部的所作所為民眾都看在眼裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
8980.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
9005.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
報告委員九關陳先生他的遺囑就是有兩家一般的受刑人是一家就足夠了所以原則上他兩家我建議啊就要找十家啦都來證明說他的健康這個仍然是需要在外面這個治療而且還要給他各種各樣不同的職能訓練所以你這邊講的你雙龍能人的職能訓練還只能夠在監獄裡面辦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
9008.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
9036.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
那也跟委員報告因為台中監獄在國慶當天也有另外派人到現場去做相關的瞭解。署長你現在講這些話就是我都不知道怎麼說對不對第一個你該不該核准他這違背了你們當時說是可以讓陳水扁保衛就醫的原則你根本不應該核准就你還派個專員去陪他這是成何體統啊然後另外我還要再講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
9038.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
9040.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
陳水扁到現在已經停審多少年了?請問今天那個檢察長有來嗎?就是針對這個案子。 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
9051.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
9054.266 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
請問到目前為止處刑了幾次? |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
9072.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
9076.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
9094.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
9107.529 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
這部分我現在再請他們來再做一個提供。那另外那個教授偽證案是只有兩次吧?還是一次?我最近看到只有一次。北檢應該有好幾次喔。北檢到底有多少次?今天北檢有沒有來?是。 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
9115.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
9133.467 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
有關於陳水扁先生他在臺北地院庭審的這個部分我回去立刻查證以後來跟委員報告你要立刻查證我上次才請你們發文給我我看只有一次啊你們從104年到現在將近10年了你們只有提出一次你們對得起國人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
9142.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
9159.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
收刑人不是都應該要同樣的主意,你們停審,司法院停審也是不應該,那你們也應該要一直全,要請求要恢復審判,是恢復審理,你們也沒有啊,10年才一次。 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
9161.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
9163.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
9191.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
9209.362 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
法務部需要司法院我們還需要嗎?因為你們做的這些作為已經讓國人對司法失去信心就是權貴司法看看最近的南韓國會通過了總統彈劾案立刻就送到憲法法庭在過去朴槿惠總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
9221.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
9224.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
9248.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
9257.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
從蔡英文到賴清德現在都不願意給這個陳水扁特赦但就回到你們法務部的問題回到司法院的問題我真的是拜託法務部矯正署還有我們的地檢署就是請你們要拿出這個骨氣好不好司法的脊樑在你們身上啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
9278.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
9289.712 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
不要讓國人看到這個今年矯正署周署長的回覆,看到高檢署竟然只有一次提出申請,這個實在是讓國民真的不能接受這樣子的一個做法。 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
9298.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
9324.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
我這個我之後會做一個決議啦或是其實今天我就要求你們以後每個月都要持續的提出請求法院要對陳雪扁的案子進行審理一個每個月提出不為過吧責任就不在你們的身上了接下來就看法院怎麼做請問部長還有這個高檢署的這個檢察長可以做到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
9327.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
9356.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
這個我們來努力。好,那周署長,那你呢?我會持續來就保衛醫治這個部分依規定來嚴格把關。依規定。我跟你說,不要逼我去修你們保衛醫治的條例喔。這樣子的話不要,這個因為陳水扁的案例,他已經是一個破口。我實在是覺得說你們矯正署不應該這樣子做。 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
9358.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
9359.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
9388.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
9394.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
麥玉珍委員麥玉珍委員麥玉珍委員不在,那接下來鍾嘉斌委員,有請主席、在黨委員先進列席政務機關事長、官員會長、工作夥伴、媒體記者、女士先生我們有請政部長以及范寶理事長的張檢察長 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
9417.194 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
9420.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
那也請那個黃謀信黃長賜請協助委員早 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
9424.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
9447.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
部長好檢察長好還有次長好今天我在談到的是為了強化被害人保障及輔助犯保法應該納入性影像的犯罪來請問部長我上次有跟你請教過為什麼目前台灣詐騙這麼嚴重這些詐騙的被害人那麼多有沒有考慮把它納入犯罪被害人的權益保障法你說這個你不太認同為什麼什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
9448.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
9461.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
犯罪、詐騙犯罪這麼嚴重了,范寶寶為什麼不把這些詐騙犯的受害人納入呢?詐騙的受害人納入。犯罪被害人就是詐騙的被害人,這部分我們在詐欺危害防治條第53條應該都有做一個保護了。 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
9466.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
9488.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
那因為這個讓我們犯保法犯罪被害權利保障最主要是還是在保障在補償補償補償這是一個補償就是以補償為出發點我們看一下來哪些犯罪的被害人適用犯保法在87年犯保法第一條他怎麼說你直接講我都幫你列出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
9490.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
9510.712 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
報告委員,就是因為犯罪被害而死亡的遺屬或者是受重傷,另外還有性侵這一部分也算。現在那是87年,你講得很快,我還沒問到哪裏,死亡不可回復,受重傷可能傷殘,因此他不能夠得到,因為他生活會因為這個難以平復的傷害,他會陷入困頓對不對,所以部長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
9512.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
9514.975 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
9526.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
9528.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
9542.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
9547.256 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
9568.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
9574.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
他試藏這個密片清查之後有未成年的少女會去拍攝你知道這個問題很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
9576.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
9599.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
對不對?那我們往下看。那請問一下,這些性暴力的被害人,我說的性暴力的被害人,他們受到的包括什麼?他們可能會覺得有壓力症候群,會自責,會反覆地做噩夢,甚至呢他們要面對討回公道要漫長的司法程序。請問,部長,你認為性侵害或性影響的被害人是不是都面臨到同樣的困境? |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
9600.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
9624.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
的確這些那個性侵害跟性影像的被害人,性侵害我們那個已經有列入了。是的。那個性影像的這部分是他整個這個不是一個身體受到的一個。他雖然不是身體直接受傷害,可是在他的性影像的製作或散佈的過程當中有同樣的問題。我們舉個例好來,次長要幫忙講,我們往下看,次長你來幫忙回答。 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
9625.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
9627.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
9647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
9651.872 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
9674.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
9680.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
9698.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
9724.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
犯保法這樣規定只是遏止傷害擴大有沒有對被害人進行保護或補償?有沒有?部長你覺得呢?往下看。有沒有?其他的那個三法是沒有,它是直接是像委員所講的齁就是對加害者的這份刑務者的一個加重以及避免損害的一個擴大。但是我們看到了,但是犯罪人被犯罪被害人權益保障法他保護的目的是被害人。 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
9726.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
9748.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
檢察長是不是這樣子?您的理事長張理事長稱呼是這樣嗎?我是董事長。噢,董事長對不起。基金是董事長。檢察長是這樣嗎?所以你們成立的目的是要保障或者保護被害人嗎?對,我們是希望保護所有的被害人。好,那往下看。謝謝我們董事長,張董事長。很難得人家有人叫你中檔。 |
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9764.035 |
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犯罪被害人權益保障法第3條其實你看看我們已經把性侵害當中至少把刑法的第221條還有兒少性剝削防治條例的33、34、35、36到37其實部長你對這個法條熟不熟還是要請黃執黨答這些兒少性剝削防治從33條到第37條他處理的是什麼行為加害人的什麼行為 |
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9782.179 |
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9811.505 |
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有沒有人知道?市長知道嗎?來,市長講一下。三十三就是怎麼樣?他對兒少進行挾持,要強命他拍攝,甚至在清漢過程中在錄影,對不對?三十三、三十四、三十五、三十六、三十七,這五條,都是直接,這個加害人他是因為要製作影像而直接對當事人進行加害,是不是這樣子?但是,這些已經納入了犯保法了喔。 |
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9839.905 |
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但是有些犯罪是什麼我已經找不到誰做的影像了他可能偷拍但是這些影像的散播跟持有這些兒少性影像是不是同樣對被害人產生同樣的傷害他沒有直接對他這些行為人的現場的對身體的限制強迫可是後面的這些影像的散播他的傷害是同樣的市長你是不是這樣子 |
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9844.686 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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黃次長你說了三個部分啊你說第一個一個是量能的問題 |
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9878.98 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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9900.629 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
9903.115 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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9909.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
9910.245 |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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9936.104 |
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9957.362 |
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好,你來看一下目前性侵的被害人他有生活重建有訴訟協助有保護命令有補償金但是性影像的被害人呢只有保護命令保護命令是什麼避免傷害擴大他有沒有生活重建有沒有訴訟協助有沒有補償金董事長看你宅心人後你覺不覺得未來性影像的被害人可以把這三個部分都補上 |
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9979.922 |
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法務委員,這部分有待進一步的研議,那基本上如果能夠去多加保護,那我們也是贊成,只是剛剛那個黃市長有提到相關的一些的配套的一個措施,恐怕要再更深入的一個研議。委員現在請你上來,因為你白髮斑斑,慈眉善目,應該經常比我們次長好。 |
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事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管 |
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10020.238 |
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部長看你的態度囉你應該心腸也跟我們張董事長一樣第一項我們來全力來做那第二項的話我們真的是要研議那我們還要在內部再做一個研議那我想我們會最快速度跟那個委員來做一個報告 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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10043.857 |
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10061.103 |
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報告委員,我想這部分我們會進一步研議,如果是可行的話當然我也樂觀啟程。您不適合講研議,你說我們努力來推動,研議是交給部裡面好不好?您努力來推動可以嗎?謝謝委員。謝謝委員是什麼意思?是我可以下台了嗎? |
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10064.311 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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10092.369 |
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10115.505 |
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好,主席謝謝,麻煩請鄭部長。委員好。來,部長好。部長,我看到媒體有報導啊,我想請教一下,可能你會比較了解鄭家軍啊,要在哪裡報名?沒有鄭家軍的。沒有鄭家軍?沒有沒有沒有。 |
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10117.417 |
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10143.795 |
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看來部長也知道鄭家軍我都還不知道我都沒有講說他是一個人民還是一個職稱還是一個單位部長就已經講沒有鄭家軍了沒有因為委員說有沒有鄭家軍我說我沒有聽過沒有鄭家軍沒有鄭家軍也不知道從哪裡報名但媒體上怎麼會寫你有看到媒體報導啦檢察長14人的初選名單裡面初選名單已經出爐那其中鄭家軍入圍啊 |
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10162.634 |
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這個我不曉得這個媒體從何就是從何判斷從何認定所以也沒有辦法報名不然我想說也要提示一下讓大家知道有鄭家軍的話趕快報名啊有報有機會啊人人有希望各個沒把握但至少有報有機會嘛 |
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10182.978 |
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來部長那我再請教一下因為本席會提出來其實我看到我也很訝異我想說如果連媒體都那麼不公正客觀啊媒體都覺得是說法務部現在在領選所謂的檢察長都有分你我分內外分親疏遠近當然不允許嘛我想部長你認同吧 |
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| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
10202.675 |
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這部分我們認為檢察長的一個臨選,那我想我們經過一個很嚴密的一個機制,這個是要有人選委員兼選委員做一個提名。要專業嘛,是不是應該要專業,要判斷,要客觀,要公正,要獨立,這才是我們符合檢察長的一個期待嘛,是吧? |
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10223.162 |
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這個我這個都是應該是簡單應該有的一個特質好那我請教喔因為這一次被形容媒體報導講說法務部舉行歷史上首次檢察長的面試而且針對說參選人要如何領導同意以及對檢察界未來的期許兩大主題發表講演每人7分鐘 |
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10225.785 |
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10241.615 |
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這算是您的創舉還是說過去有沒有這樣的例子?這個是的確是,我們是,這是由檢審委員提出來的,不是我只是要這樣做的,不是你檢審委員提出來,因為希望就是在一個公開透明的機制上, |
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10268.647 |
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再來再來做一個一個做一個暢談整個檢察長的一個理念以及他的一個報告那這樣子這個這個這個不是這個不是我提的那那這個我是樂見其成的因為這是檢審檢審委員提出來檢察長剛有講到是說這個是檢審委員會而且希望公開透明那國人也在想說如果說這樣的話這個講演每人7分鐘啊能不能上網直播給大家看 |
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| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
10271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
10295.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
10314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
如何另討同意對檢察界的未來期許?因為其實我覺得公開透明很重要,我也認同。如果說剛剛部長講是說既然要公開透明,是不是能夠更公開透明?就不只是說我們的這個聯審委員這邊來了解,因為我想國人也很關注啊,如果說未來這一些是我們的檢察長的話, |
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10315.931 |
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10337.645 |
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事宜不要讓外界認為是說已經有內定名單了也不要讓外界認為是說哪一家的軍就比較強勢哪一家軍就比較弱勢那是不是能夠讓國人也清楚明白了解一下是說這些檢察長對於如何領導統一對未來的報復期許如何能不能直播上網我想技術層面是沒有問題啊 |
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10348.409 |
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這個是屬於那個檢審員他們自己自己辦的一個跟這些報名的你這樣子會不會讓淪為就是說好像是過場會讓人家覺得是說思想審查的狀況你要講到確定關鍵字還是你要講到你的領導同意會變成 |
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10356.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
10358.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
10386.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
10390.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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10405.08 |
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10427.467 |
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公開大門走大路讓大家知道是說沒有這樣的狀況否則只會更加深這疑慮因為如果說到最後確平眾選的真的是所謂的鄭家軍那我覺得這樣子反而明明如果說人家是有專業的那反而你會更無法自圓其說這是第一個部分先聽完本席的問題不要急著回答這樣顯得心虛真的 |
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10427.987 |
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10431.229 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案審查114年度中央政府總預算案審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
10453.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
10455.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
10479.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
10503.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
我也直接直指到現在部長您知道嗎?我們Google上網只要搜尋電子煙三個字首頁就可以跳出來它的官方網站那其實這一些我之前有看到光販售尼古丁相關的一個用品其實就違反我們的要事法可以處刑責跟五千萬以下的罰款 |
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10525.724 |
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我們也看到有人只是從國外買了紙煙要上網去拍賣也會違反相關煙害防治法我們也是減掉主動的一個稽查那何以個人的行為我們都會有主動稽查的狀況但到目前為止當Google我們最多人使用的搜尋引擎 |
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只要打電子驗三個字還不用任何的技巧不用任何的暗示不用任何的暗號都可以直接搜尋到官方網站他自己架設官方網站然後裡面洋洋灑灑你想要買什麼口味就有什麼口味你想要買什麼型號就有什麼型號你想要買拋棄式的就有拋棄式你想要買這個長效型的就有長效型部長 |
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10550.728 |
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10572.537 |
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那麼嚴重的狀況我們能不能有一個比較積極的作為來直接打擊不然你把上次煙彈列為二級這個是本期上一個會期就已經提出了質詢當時雖然你沒有鬆口可是到最後你有做列為二級本期於肯定可是另外一個部分是載具的部分這一些是不是應該也要主動積極來查辦 |
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10597.063 |
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謝謝委員,大概載具這個問題,那個電子煙這部分人為上市煙灘的載具這部分的確是非常嚴重。現在這邊我們在反讀匯報,反正我們也提出來,我們是建請我們在而且台高減水統合企圖的單位,這部分我們也是促請他那個載具電子煙的主辦的主管機關是衛福部的國建署。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
10615.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
10615.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
稅務部主管稅務部主管 |
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| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
10662.638 |
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像這一種的下架,又是不是可以給他下架限制瀏覽的或者是怎樣的一個讓這些沒辦法利用這些網路來做一個販賣的一個途徑那這部分我們都協調各部會做全管的部分來做一個處理部長平常嗜好是不是踢足球我沒有在運動因為每天都忙著看這些巡打資料部長你剛剛踢皮球踢得蠻大力的啦 |
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我必須講你這樣剛的回答我都已經可以預想到你講了衛福部你講了速發部你講了關稅署也就是財政部但是本席就是提出來因為過去我們就是有相關的檢查嘛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
10703.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
對,不要說個人的行為我們都會用地檢相關檢查結果沒有想到是公司化的經營、集團化的經營反而法務部沒有作為我們沒有作為啊這一點就是我們是企賭的所以我們從企賭的個案我們發現很多的管理上源頭的一個漏洞所以我們會回饋給各個權管機關來做一個防篤嘛所以這個剛才已經那麼久的時間了其實很實在話講 |
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你審查明年的預算本市也剛看了一下預算的部分編列了很多打擊詐騙打擊煙毒這個是期不免的嘛這一些都是但是我們現在看到的有沒有違反有沒有違反鑰匙法販賣尼古丁有沒有違反鑰匙法有啊那個這不有違反當然我們要加強查緝嘛但是屬於那個那個那個什麼那個那個電子煙的載具的管理的問題 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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檢查,屬的同仁全都在這邊我們檢察長都在這邊我真的拜託我們所有的檢察長啊 |
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10801.164 |
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台灣2350萬人我們自己這一代跟我們下一代真的有拜託各位檢察長能夠指揮下面檢察官主動積極的辦理真的不用什麼技巧Google打開搜尋電子煙三個字第一頁就會出現那種販賣的官方網站裡面有賣尼古丁的有賣各種口味的有賣那些載具的那些載具剛剛部長也講了就是它是上市煙彈的載具 |
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10829.214 |
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如果說我們的這一代跟下一代都那麼輕易的可以在網路上搜尋的到購買的到宅配今天下貨三天後到便利商店我們直接可以去領了結果這樣子我們還可以持續放任然後部長講說有有匯報那真的很抱歉啊我拜託所有的檢察長要升官要上位可以不用加入什麼軍只要你拿出魄力來查緝我相信就會有 |
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10830.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
10833.376 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
10858.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
10861.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
李燕秀蘇清泉葉元芝 |
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10887.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
10909.205 |
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主席好,請麻煩請法務部長部長部長你好委員好部長好我們平常在地方跑行程的時候其實最常聽到鄉親講的一句話就是詐騙犯實在太多而且詐騙刑責實在是太低那我們常常看到很多屢見不顯的個案我這邊隨便列舉幾個譬如說像 |
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| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
10930.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
10949.171 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
那右邊這個新聞圖很諷刺就是被遣返回台的詐欺犯一看到是華航整個都放心了為什麼因為他們很害怕在國外被審判審判的話刑期很重一回來想說台灣的刑期很低啊沒多久就可能被放出來甚至於連關都不用 |
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10950.046 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
10956.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
10979.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
10981.528 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
10999.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
11028.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
做一個修正來保障大家的這樣的權益。謝謝委員。事實上我們的法律不清。我們法律規定的蠻重的。但是是法院輕判。就像以339、刑法339之四那幾個一個犯罪它地板價是一年以上、七年以下。但是大部分時就像就像那個委員組就是輕判。那這部分怎麼去解決?第一法制我們有修法。所以詐欺危害防治條例所以我們有加重的一個修法。 |
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11029.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
11030.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
11052.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
11053.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
判判5年 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
11069.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
11071.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
11093.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
11094.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
11109.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
11111.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
11138.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
11143.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
11164.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
11170.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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11189.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
11193.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
其實法務部如果把這個列為重點查緝對象應該...我們就已經認為重點查緝對象...因為...不然我的問題都還沒有問啊,可以先聽我講完嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
11198.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
11220.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
就是說如果你把這個列為重點查緝對象的話我覺得跨機關的合作要很重要啦比如說第一個警政署有沒有相關的配合像一般來講的話這個毒品查到你要去檢測嘛但是之前就發生過他們給他們的篩記就是不夠很多派出所可能就只有拿到一個篩記不敢用 |
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11221.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
11236.871 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
所以你把罰則定得比較重但是如果相關機關沒辦法配合的話這個毒品的查緝還是一樣沒辦法達到效果還有類似像速發布的狀況也是一樣就是說在臉書的社團或是Google很容易就查到公然的販賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
11238.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
11239.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
11267.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
11294.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
報告委員有關於跨部會的合作我們台高建署已經總共從今年3月到現在已經開了12次會議剛剛委員非常垂詢有關到網站的這些的查緝我們也建議這部分要及時的停止解析在上個禮拜速發部有開過會有邀請TWNIC那這部分大家取得一個共識未來如果有許諾這些的販毒的這些的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
11295.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
11297.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
11314.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
11335.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
有一個新聞說那個八大行業到某一個大學去招募女學生加入後來法官是判無罪因為法官講說八大行業去大學招募女學生他這個行為就跟社團招生的性質一樣所以是無罪那我不知道說站在法務部的立場覺得這樣子是OK的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
11337.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
11340.874 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
八大行業到大學去招募女學生跟社團招生性質一不一樣。 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
11349.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
11378.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
那個這個我想檢察官居然已經有起訴了齁那我想法院那判決無罪我想檢察官嚴厲來對我 我覺得我們不針對個案啦我是一個通案啦因為如果是這樣子講的話那八大行業很高興啊他們可以到各大學去招募因為這個就是社團招生嘛那當然是在整個一個道德或法律上這個是不允許或不適合的一個問題嘛對所以你覺得這部長你覺得不行齁那他違反到什麼法 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
11381.408 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
11381.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
社會秩序維護法違反社會秩序維護法 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
11400.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
11419.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
各位報告這個其實不是檢察官起訴他是違反社會秩序維護法是司法檢察機關直接向法院移送法院受判免罰不罰他其實跟檢察機關是沒有關係的我知道我知道我只問態度嘛因為今天這個新聞出來但這個權責上他權責上他是司法檢察移送法院來做處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
11420.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
11440.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
我當然知道我只是說這個新聞這樣出來大家就覺得說喔原來八達行業區學校招生跟社團一樣我只是問你們態度因為你們是司法你們是法務部嘛我只是問你們態度而已啊不然八達行業覺得很高興啊就是說這個法律居然保障他們招生的權利啊當然我們支持警方的移送行為但法院的判決我們也要尊重啦好好謝謝謝謝請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
11445.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
11472.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
我們下一位請楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員好那接下來我們麻煩林思明代理主席好接下來我們請吳宗憲委員發言好謝謝我們麻煩部長還有總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
11475.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
11481.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
兩位就教的主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
11496.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
11497.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
11511.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
11538.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
所以當意見不一樣的時候在何議廷的時候意見不一樣的時候其實是少數服從多數那但是在這次憲判8號出來之後是要求大法官是要求說這個普通法院法官呢他如果要判死刑必須要一致決那當然這個一致決現在有很多的爭議啦那我們先姑且不論將來的問題我們就先討論這個有37位已經死刑判決的這個案子齁那 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
11540.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
11556.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
我想請問一下先請教總長因為這是通案性討論的一個議題啦那總長如果說我們就這37號死刑犯而且評議部還在的時候那如果有看到一位法官當初是不同意那請問這個是不是就要提非常上訴總長要麻煩你快一點我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
11571.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
11578.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
11601.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
11628.361 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
這個是很重大人命關天的是要麻煩你們真的要認真認真面對我們現在全面的把這個所有資料我們都調過來也發了很多資料給相關的律師那如果說這個三十件現在三十件沒有評一部七件有但是如果說他這個沒有一字決的話我們依法來提起非常上述好那就就我剛剛所的理解因為跟總統報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
11629.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
11631.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
11647.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
11666.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
目前找得到評議部的,如果在評議部裡面發現曾經有法官不支持死刑,就最終審的法官不支持死刑的話,那就會提非常上訴。再來我下一個問題是,還有30件評議部銷毀了,沒有辦法證明是一致判死,那請問一下總長目前這個要怎麼處理? |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
11667.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
11670.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
11694.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
11717.357 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
把這個所有資料現在在我們這邊我們也請這個律師已經大概有33件辯護來申請月券13件完成月券那我們依據實際上在今年年底以前完成31件的月券然後我們也寫了一些這個通知書給這些辯護律師希望他們能夠競訴來月券通知他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
11718.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
11719.299 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
11742.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
11749.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
是這個意思嗎?那目前那個評議部還在的部分沒有一致決的嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
11753.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
11772.072 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
有沒有沒有一致決的?我們現在有跟這個相關的單位喔都要到這些評估現在有現在要到有七件都是有一致決的有的七件都有一致決好七件有一致決那萬一要非常上訴就這七件可能就是其他理由非常上訴而跟一致決無關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
11772.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
11793.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
除此之外,法務部主管本身不是一致決定,或是法務部已經找不到的或銷毀的,這就當作沒有一致決定。總統,這樣非常上訴的比例會非常非常非常高。你那30件沒有評議部的等於全部都非常上訴。然後再加上 |
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11794.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
11796.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
稍後再請教一下,到底誰可以去申請去看這個評議部? |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
11816.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
11817.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11839.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
11857.731 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
最高法院去申請的時候最高法院說你不是當事人因為這刑訴法規定的你不是當事人所以拒絕那他拜託台高檢的高雄分署去幫他申請結果我們的高雄分署 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
11859.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
11865.273 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
11883.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
11893.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
11907.711 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
11908.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
11929.923 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
11957.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
所以當然我將來我還是會去請教在合法範圍內我會去請教那個高雄高分檢是怎麼回事請他們能夠 |
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| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
11979.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
我們了解一下狀況是怎麼樣,那我還是這樣,我絕對不干涉個案,但是我希望通案的去了解,會不會國家還有其他人遇到一樣的狀況。就是他無處可申約嘛,整個國家又沒有幫他,那這時候我們這樣做對嗎?司法是保護人民,是維護社會正義,還是司法是找人家麻煩? |
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11981.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
12001.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
委員這個簡單一句話,委員講這個,因為這個案子我們也注意到,因為這個案子判決確定,所以我們現在正在研究,是不是體體非常上訴,謝謝沒有,我剛在談的不是這個,我剛在談的是家屬申請評議部,那個是無期徒刑確定,這跟非常上訴無關,總統還是要麻煩您聽我的問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
12006.815 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
12008.557 |
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因為案子確定後了。我跟你說, |
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可以來申請月覽評議部的有被告有檢察官但是死者家屬不能申請嘛所以他今天能做的就是問院方我可不可以申請評議部院方說你不行你不是當事人這時候如果檢察官願意幫他申請的話他也可以啊但他今天得到的結論是檢察官不願意欸欸我不知道部長中你們是假裝聽不懂我的話嗎我覺得我講得很清楚啊 |
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公文報告啦,當然只因為已經確定進入執行的話,當然已經沒有刑訴法的適用,這要回到政府資訊公開法或是檔案法的規定。檔案法,但如果已經確定的話,歸檔就檔案法去適用。如果沒有的話,政府資訊公開法來閱覽,但是它有另外一個潛力,因為是評議部,另外我們法院組織法106條,就這個閱覽一個特別的規定。沒有,老師謝謝你,來你看一下那公文,幫我把公文放出來。你看一下高分檢是怎麼回他的。 |
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麻煩你們看一下右邊那個他是說本案非死刑判決案件沒有調閱的必要性我今天就這公文的去請教當然你法規你說用法規去告訴人民不行那我們公文上面寫清楚 |
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稍等稍等稍等稍等 |
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那這樣家屬當然會覺得他是個孤兒啦各位報告齁這個台中高雄高分檢可能誤會委員要調業的意思啦所以他以為是殺人的案件事實上這個案子是判無極度刑的案件跟先怕108其實是沒有關係的他可能誤會了委員的意思那不管但是我看到高雄高分檢的函是這樣嘛那高雄高分檢是不是要出來解釋為什麼是這個說法 |
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或是他們能否引用正確的條文去給家屬回覆。家屬在依據看有什麼正式的方式,像譬如說老師剛剛說的那個資訊公開法用那個方式去申請調閱,這是另外一個層次的問題。所以這個部分可能要麻煩你們給我一個回覆好嗎? |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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憲判8出來之後我們國家司法體系一定會再被人民不信任我跟你保證因為人民不像我們念法律我已經是檢查體系出來我已經很能夠跟常常我都跟家屬解釋這不是檢察官的錯不是法官的錯是制度法律沒有修正前只能這樣但是我跟你保證民眾都聽不懂所以在民眾的眼裡就是這個王八蛋政府整天在那邊不保護我們 |
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我很多次用力跟他們解釋但是他們聽不進去所以憲法發出來其實造成的問題很多不管是以自決、不管是最嚴重到目前都惹出很多的麻煩性那當然我也多次說其實就是法官在造法法官根本不應該侵害到立法權以及檢察官跟法官的獨立偵查或獨立審判權我都覺得這不是他們能夠去干涉的那另外 |
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其實我們這次三、七個人裡面有一個黃春琦跟陳毅龍的那個案子他是非常久以前的案子然後他們是唯一死刑嘛那這個勢必會被非常上訴一定會的嘛因為大法官已經有交代了 |
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回到普通法院我會跟各位報告還是之前有請教過總長跟部長的問題他們沒有符合GR的要件他有逃亡之餘嗎?他有篡政之餘嗎?二、三十年前的案子他要篡什麼政、滅什麼政? |
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收支部分關於法務部及所屬主管收支部分 |
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那這個是不是將來對這37個有要另立專法真的要請法務部要去思考一下有沒有必要另立一個專法專門針對這37個因為這37個裡面有非常多人根本就不符合刑事訴訟法101跟101之1的羈押要件那我們一直講很多實務的也出來講現在就只有政客跟政客跟那些側翼整天說不可能叫我們不要委員聳聽但是你我我們都是 |
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都是司法官出來的你們也一定懂我在講什麼那這會是一個很大的問題啦齁那就像我剛剛講那個黃春祺他們兩個人他們還適用10年就可以假釋的規定他行為實施在最早期的法律規定10年就可以扣掉羈押的時間他在如果判無期徒刑確定他不用5、6年就出來了啊那這個社會上面會不會害怕那辱人勒俗欸這真的很可怕齁所以這部分要麻煩 |
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稍後會議時間繼續進行到排定的法案審查完畢為止 |
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司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第11屆第2會期 |
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所以不管是檢察官助理的法案推動或相關法案推動或者是打詐法案我都是盡全力的幫忙我並不是說對院檢有仇恨沒有我反而是希望讓我們的院檢能夠走向人民越來越支持所以在這幾個法案以及減輕檢察官跟法官工作量的這幾個法案我都是到處去遊說其他的立委一定要幫忙不要找麻煩所以你們也很清楚從一開始對於檢察官助理 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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公務員報告委員所提到的網路流量紀錄相關的14條之一第2項或是相關執法事實上我們已經完成在預告程序當中事實上它可以在近期內就 |
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請問是外部監督單位還是內部監督單位?原則上它是內部監督單位,內控機制。因為你們還沒有推出來,那我再提醒一下,像德國它就是設置外部的中立單位,因為今天如果說我們收集資料的單位跟管考的單位保存跟監督的單位, |
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是同一單位或是類似的平常都在一起的單位其實民眾還是會打一個問號那這部分再麻煩老師這邊能夠想一下看能不能夠有什麼去修正能夠讓人民更信任那另外還有一個就是說調閱的部分因為通報法15條其實有某些範圍是檢警可以先就是自行去調閱 |
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那這個自行去調閱的這個部分到底有沒有監督,那有沒有中立的監督機制?自行調閱的部分。各位報告,所有相關在11條裡面包括我們職權調取,或者是都在我們這個不在執法裡面的監控範圍,監督的範圍。它的授權規定是包括所有的,所有的調閱都包括。 |
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包括剛剛委員所提的這個不需要調取票的職權調取的部分,特定犯罪的部分,也是要在內控的範圍內內控。就同一個內控機制。對對對。好,那沒關係,那我知道你們的想法。那有沒有想過說這些民眾,因為很多案子我們以前也知道,他這案下去查一查之後發現他 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支 |
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民眾受到檢察官、警察那個職權調閱之後然後後來發現根本就是烏龍一場他覺得權益受到那個侵害或者是像現在檢察官很多有些特定的檢察官會把資料給特定的媒體那如果說查到最後發現他根本構成要件就不符合而牽結或做不起訴處分但是這個資料因為外洩而導致當事人權益受損那你們有沒有想過救濟的方式還是就你就去請民事庭吧 |
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各位報告通保法關於救濟的話我們在刑訴的416條它有一個準看高的救濟機制倒是司法警察的這部分目前法制上也許還不夠完備檢察官的調取票的部分他就循416的準看高去處理 |
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議員議員議員 |
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那我們還是要知道啦,就是說這不是小數目,所以細項還是要給我們,讓我們清楚一下那甚至就是說我很在意的一個就是你調取到的資料是由監控,誰監控或是誰保存那這個機制有沒有做好,其實已經上路幾個月都還沒有出來喔,這個然後我們又花了國家那麼多錢 |
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這個也不太對,所以這部分麻煩你們能夠給我們比較詳細的資料。報告委員,這個整個大的計畫是編在內政部警政署。那有關這個網路流量的後端的分析,我們是包含在這個大的計畫裡面。那因為現在整個的設備都還沒有完全建置起來,所以目前是都沒有的。只是說在法規上,未來這個都必須要有令狀才能夠來執行。 |
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那這樣我知道就好那最後我就跟你們提一下就是我希望有幾個東西要麻煩你們回覆一下啦大概就是說我剛剛提到的那個內機內控這個整個配套措施還有調取的比例還有內部審核準博的那個數據希望給我們一下還有調取成功之後呢起訴跟定罪如果有的話 |
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稍為解釋一下,這麼做掉了多少人後來到底起訴定罪率我希望知道這個那再麻煩一下就是我們剛剛講到的這個內控機制呢你們也要參考一下德國、日本跟美國他們的做法有時候他們引入外部的監控機制這時候人民比較能夠信任再來就是我剛剛提到的網路流量分析系統還有這些通訊監察設備費的預算細目能夠一個月給我就好 |
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對於吳宗憲委員所提出的相關問題請法務部在一個月或調查局在一個月之內提出具體詳細的書面說明。 |
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所有登記發言委員都已經發言完畢,詢答結束。委員執行時,要求提供的相關資料,會書面答覆者請相關機關請速送交。 |
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告別委員會及本會令翁曉琳委員執行司所要求的書面內容一併列入公報記錄並請機關答覆委員林思明、楊瓊英所提的書面執行均列入記錄刊登公報 |
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並請相關機關以書面回覆。上午議程討論事項第一至四案關於法務部及所屬主管收支部分等事案。報告及詢答完畢。那我們決議均定定期繼續審查。那審查會委員針對上午議程所列討論事項之預算提案,請於12月24日星期二中午12時前提出,預示不受理。 |
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繼續進行第五案先宣讀法案提案條文宣讀時間預計兩分鐘宣讀條文的時候跟法案無關的列席機關代表可以先行離席 |
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討論事項第五案外議兼條例委員徐巧興等提案第四條除第二項第三款條文中第161條後增訂第185條之三第二項因而致人於死者第三項因而致人於死者另條文中第333條第一項第二項後增訂第339條第一項第339條之一第一項第339條之二第一項第339條之三第一項 |
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另第七款條文修正為七犯毒品危害防治條例之罪其餘未修正委員王世堅等提案第四條除第一項第一款修正為一、受有歧途行之執行於六個月其餘未修正委員陳昀臻等提案第四條除第一項第一款及第二款修正為 |
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一、受有歧途刑罪履行於三個月。二、有圈毀實據且三年內符合承報假釋法定刑期,其餘未修正。 |
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為王世堅等提案第21條第一項至第三項條文未修正。第四項修正為受刑人依第一項申請返家探視期間每次最多不得超過40小時,但作業成績連續三個月均達法定最高額85%以上者,得延長24小時,其餘條件對象以下條文未修正。宣讀完畢。 |
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好 謝謝各位條文已經宣讀完畢我們現在進行討論上午議程討論事項第五案病案審查委員徐巧欣等18人彌聚外醫監條例第四條條文修正查案等三案那請問一下要不要進行大體討論不用不用進行大體討論不用的話那我們就直接進行主條的審查 |
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第四條,條文修正草案,先進行大體討論或審略大體討論後,繼續進行逐條討論。本案部分修正,共計處理兩條。請問第四條部分,各位委員有無意見? |
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如果沒有的話就不予修正。 |
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13202.112 |
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審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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關於王委員及陳委員提案 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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13289.922 |
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維持現行的規定可以讓我們的矯正機關可以讓外遇間的領選有更充足的資料以上先做簡單的說明再請委員報告 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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偵查新收的案件從109年起有關詐欺案件是居各罪之首,110年達到124,899件,年增率達到18.6%。 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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所以法務部提供的資料也顯示說修正實施前每次申請人數大概1500人符合資格者大概1200人獲選分發人數大概200到500人不等但是修正實施後 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
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獲得外遺宣的一個離選。這會申請到外遺宣。以上。 |
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謝謝趙委員還有我們列席的官員在場的委員我想當然林士明委員對徐委員的提案保留這表達尊重那其實兩我看他們有互相連署 |
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互相連署,承運生有提版本,需要經有提版本,然後他們又互相連署,一個積極要件的一個是提升的,其實一個是要放寬的,那似乎這有點衝突,甚至保留我倒覺得是合理,但我必須要講的就是說,我們整個外議間的一個修法的歷史嚴格, |
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這個去年大家其實也講得很清楚了只是說政策要去做一個改變的話我到這個地方倒還是要做一點論述所以從1946年第一階段其實我們是在彌補一般監獄擁捨的一個問題 |
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13469.917 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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在1980年到1997年,法官遴選標準將執行徒刑期間從三個月縮短到兩個月,但有增加勞作金的比例。到了第三階段,也就是說2014年去擴大整個外役間處遇的功能,你新增了外部監督的機制, |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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13537.468 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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13581.596 |
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這個其實也到符合國民的法律上的一個感情這個到也可以來接受可是我們就是說從整個消極資格的部分我們去做一個緊縮但積極資格部分其實到現在來看的話剛提案人我看的一個說明裡面確實我們一般監獄處理裡面一般的一個監獄變成說人滿為患 |
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外遇監的部分,你又沒收到人,這個我看署長也非常專業,今天談到這個問題也都很正面,所以今天這樣的一個提案裡面,我倒建議先做以上這樣的一個說明,倒不是媒體特別去提到什麼大咖,我們還知道什麼大咖,我也沒看到什麼大咖。 |
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13607.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
鐘昭偉 |
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13653.811 |
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好 謝謝主席 那麼今天我們審查的草案有三個提案 那麼剛剛國民黨林思明委員已經提到了有關於國民黨徐巧欣委員的部分他是建議就保留不予討論 那我這裡還是要把三個案做個比較 那首先徐巧欣的提案當中我們看到今天司法院的書面報告 |
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稅務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
13671.842 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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接下來另外兩個案子就是王委員的跟陳委員的版本這兩個的差異是不大一個是六個月一個是三個月加上剛剛莊委員關心的議題也是本席關心的就是說外界的目的是要幫助受刑人可以早日復歸社會給他適當的調節的過程 |
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那麼在這兩個三個月跟六個月以及現況這三種情況現況當然腳趾鼠知道嘛現況是怎麼情況那現況如果改成三個月或六個月在實際上外溢間的操作跟我們受刑人的處遇上會有什麼樣的轉變我希望待會法務部能夠做一個說明好那機關的部分能不能就剛委員所提出來的問題再說明署長 |
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各位委員大家好有關外遇間我們現在是以說有期徒刑如果出犯是要三分之一內犯就是二分之一啦那與我們責任分數每一級的設計的它的規劃如果以判有期徒刑六年來講 |
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13803.939 |
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收支部分關於法務部總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
13820.104 |
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13824.006 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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13841.593 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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13854.178 |
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13860.182 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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13887.643 |
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所謂忽略他的個別需求的廚藝大概也要6個月的時間。要6個月的時間。 |
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包括說相關的也要考核他有沒有適宜外遇間的作業所以這個期間上有的是三個月或是是超過六個月應該是會希望說能夠以新條例這一種他 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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13958.158 |
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13959.54 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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各位委員還有問題要問嗎?我不知道他們有沒有回答到問題。署長你講的我也聽不是很清楚,所以你那個是到底是你是認為說是三個月還是六個月? |
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14015.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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14033.236 |
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14052.274 |
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一般的監所操作情形非常嚴重,反而外溢監因為110年這個法上路之後造成外溢監申請人數未減到十分之一,符合資格的變成說是非常的少。 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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14071.115 |
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14094.132 |
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那這個要跟委員特別報告一下我們有考量到說確實貨領選到外遺間新條例之後人數是大幅會有下降所以我們有做一些短期的轉型規劃包括我們已經在上一季開始在台中監獄的複設外遺分間跟屏東監獄的複設外遺分間已經停止分發了 |
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收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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包括平間也是一樣會收一些比較短期型的因為境外作業的一般受薪人也可以紓解一些監獄的擁擠的情況。 |
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所以這個我們會做相關的因應所以你要等於說你現在就是把外衣間做一個轉型去把它調配讓一般的這個受刑人也可以到外衣間來去做執行你們現在是做這樣的一個轉型嗎?是不是?是,我們有做規劃是做這樣的規劃嗎?是 |
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但是我們現在就是說外溢間當然它的立法的目的就是讓我們受刑人能夠逐步來適應社會的生活加速他跟我們社會接軌的一個中間處於的一個情況讓他要出去可以在外溢間先待一下讓他這個慢慢的適應我們未來他出去監獄之後來適應社會的一個狀況 |
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所以你覺得這樣子會不會就是跟外遺間的設置的目的有所相悖啊?其實我現在主要是說如果說是三個月或六個月這樣子我們今天我們的委員這樣的提案你認為會不會自愛難行啊?還是說你認為說幾個月會真的達到我們設置外遺間的立法的目的? |
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14214.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
14217.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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14242.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
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秦升機關這邊要回答一下這個問題秦升機關這邊要回答一下這個問題秦升機關這邊要回答一下這個問題秦升機關這邊要回答一下這個問題秦升機關這邊要回答一下這個問題 |
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14290.836 |
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我想我先讓署長跟同仁先研議一下那我這邊還是先報告一下因為剛才我們為什麼先結論先跟各位來報告說我們還是建議維持現行條文就是因為外溢間作為一個中間儲育的性質剛剛署長特別提到個別化儲育其實我們新收所有人進來之後並不是馬上就可以做還是需要有一段時間的新收期那剛剛有很明確的說大概六個月的期間 |
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| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
14319.286 |
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才會開始啟動所謂個別化處遇。那麼作為所謂的中間處遇本來它的性質因為它開始可以反加探視我想這外一間除了比較管理上比較自律之外最重要就是這一個那一個就是說我們逐步好讓這些受刑人從他律慢慢走到自律這樣一個階段那這個中間需要一個矯正、矯制的、教化的過程那我們也需要去觀察這些受刑人的情況 |
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14320.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
14321.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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14341.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
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14375.093 |
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到底是什麼?如果我們還是把它界定成中間處理的話其實現在這個規定相對其實反而是比較合理的所以我們才會說是不是先暫行的來維持現行的條文然後我們會就外溢間的性質跟這個因為我們現在累進處理條例跟這個監獄刑刑法 |
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14377.714 |
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14382.655 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
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14405.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
14407.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
其他部分我再請署長來補充跟各位來說明。 |
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14411.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
14437.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
這件要補充一點就是說外衣間其實是作為所謂的中間型處理嘛就是說針對尤其是長期型的這些受刑人他在監獄關了蠻久了一下子把他放回去社會他可能會有適應的問題所以就是給他逐步的先到外衣間先接觸到社會慢慢的他在復歸社會會比較適應比較習慣 |
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14440.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
14444.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
但是我們外遇間會有一個現象就是說 |
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14445.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
14449.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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14474.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
14476.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
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14495.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
14500.629 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
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14520.693 |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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14538.985 |
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14554.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
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14555.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
14581.619 |
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都是兩年以上的那當然相較於原條文跟現在兩個版本常議期的你用三個月用六個月也好那個比例都差距太大所以我想知道的是說就矯正署復歸社會的立場來講那麼不同的議期在這樣的規定之下它產生的差別是什麼還有它佔比多少就是外議監當中目前受外議監處遇的這些人 |
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14583.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
14583.873 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
14609.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
14612.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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14633.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
14646.956 |
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長一期的用比例來講很合理但是短一期的如果他一年以下你用三分之一就是四個月那如果承運版本就是三個月那這個差別看起來是有不大但是有在實況上怎麼樣 |
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14648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
14671.811 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
這個我要跟委員報告一下我們因為有所謂的一年得報假釋才能夠到外議監所以所提到的短一期說六個月啊那個幾乎就是沒有所謂的一年內得報假釋那個問題所謂一年內得報假釋一定原則上是它的刑期超過一年 |
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14672.751 |
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14674.332 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
14691.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
14710.946 |
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這次我補充啊,署長我到這樣覺得啦,你像一般你說短期自由行的部分,你說到外議間其實實力不大。真正啊,外議間啊,它設置的一個目的,我們一直在講說中間處於,因為國外實行的今天幾乎都是中刑犯。 |
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14712.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
14712.961 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
收支部分關於法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
14742.116 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
14746.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
看臉啦,我是表達尊重啦。看起來就差一個月。 |
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14754.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
14755.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
請問各位委員 |
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14784.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
14785.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
收支部分關於法務部總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
14809.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
14817.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管 |
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收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
14865.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
14868.761 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
14899.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
14901.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
14912.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
14934.24 |
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陳委員有意見要表示是嗎?我對陳一聰委員所提的這個案子沒意見只是想說提醒一下不要因為我們監獄人滿為患的問題我們要去讓外衣監的壽星人能夠可以出來外面服役 |
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14935.501 |
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14961.924 |
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對於相關的這個檢視的條件我覺得應該還是要一個比較完善的一個對就是在在遴選的過程裡面應該是要比較嚴謹的去審視因為不要因為人滿為患你希望他趕快把一些人往外間去移所以就在審視的過程裡面比較放鬆我覺得這為一個提醒而已謝謝 |
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14964.988 |
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14983.165 |
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我這邊也是對於陳俊永委員的想法我是非常的認同因為如果說我們今天要因應硬體設備的問題要把外遺間的部分適度的擴大但是在審核外遺間可以去外遺間的人的時候那就一定要嚴謹 |
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14984.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
15004.923 |
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你讓這個被可以提出申請者擴大的時候那就要更嚴謹密度更強去審查什麼人適合什麼人不適合那有一些什麼當然這有有那個排除掉一些暴力犯罪或等等這是我覺得這絕對有它的必要性那至於其他的符合規定也要麻煩這邊能夠機關這邊能夠也非常嚴謹的去審核當然不能說因為監獄 |
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15011.108 |
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15011.989 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
收支部分關於法務 |
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15026.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
15028.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
收支部分關於法務部主管收支部分 |
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15042.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
15048.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
請問各位委員就第21條的部分有無意見?第21條是只有王世堅等19人提案。 |
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15078.361 |
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15081.983 |
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有關在修正21條第4項其實我們在緩加探視的那個辦法裡面已經有相關的規定 |
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15125.564 |
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所以這個部分像這種規定應該不用修訂在本條文外間條例的本條文在我們反加碳式的相關的實施要點裡面都有比如說在什麼情況之下他可以再給他多24小時的時間等等這個部分我們是覺得沒有在這邊增訂的必要好了 接受了 |
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請問一下林委員中委員是接受法務部的意見接受法務部的意見我要不就說明我們能接受就不依修訂了好 謝謝那陳委員就21條的部分有沒有意見要補充尊重那21條這樣如果說在場三位委員都接受法務部的說法那21條是不是我們就不予修正維持現行條文 |
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本案諸條審查據處理完畢,作以下宣告本案審查完畢,拟據審查報告提請院會公決 |
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15207.08 |
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本案是否需交黨團協商部分應該都不用,因為今天都通過了。約會討論時,由吳昭吉委員中線出席說明。條次引述條文部分文字及法制用字授權主席及議事人員處理。上午會議進行到此。下午2點30分於紅樓302會議室繼續開會審查立法院預算。現在休息。 |