| IVOD_ID |
163920 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163920 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T11:20:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T11:33:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:30 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0621f43aa59702ce3cea2f7e777e01e9566f4e64ae755f07d536dac32b4bbbdb75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
涂權吉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:02 - 11:33:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、勞動部部長及衛生福利部部長針對「災後復原重建及清理因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另邀請國防部、經濟部、內政部、賑災基金會列席備詢。【10月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 先請我們彭部長請彭部長彭部長 我們距離丹納斯颱風風災到現在有幾個月了三個月三個月 那個時候我們講說我們破損 受損的光電板我們要把它完成資源化 |
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那這部分資源化部分完成的現在到什麼程度大概其實九成的部分總共9.1萬片已經完全資源化完成還有1.2萬片他在正在處理當中因為他破的特別厲害然後那這個他先暫置在那個地方所以基本上我們總共12.1萬片大概9.1萬片是已經進入資源化當中那剩下進制暫置要帶資源化的大概還有1.2萬片 |
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可是部長那時候不是說大概一個半月就可以把它清因為其實第一個是這個清不是我們清 簽也不是我們付是所謂的太陽光鏈業者跟後面的處理業者他們自己要去簽約那有些業者他比較貴那有些業者比較便宜他們就選擇比較便宜的那可能時間就會比較久這是他們的一個商業行為當然我們會嚴格監督說他到底有沒有把它去花掉絕對不會進到我們現在的這個焚化爐 |
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可是我們現在擔心這個破損的光電板它長期堆置在一個農地土地上 是不是會造成污染不會 其實目前它大概如果它是放在一個站置的土地它一定要符合我們的廢棄物的堆置的一個規範所以目前的情況是沒有所以你說破損的光電板長期堆置不會造成土地污染 |
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基本上第一個是它現在有的是堆置在有一些戰制的沒有用的廠房裡面有一兩個前一陣子有被發現它沒有包得很好地方的環保局也有去開罰了所以目前大多數是沒有問題的 |
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所以破損的太陽能光電板它本身破損長期的話會不會假設風吹日曬雨淋會不會產生一些有毒物質如果是破碎的在一些例如說不是大自然的地方這個是我們不被允許的它就當成是一個事業廢棄物來處理我們不允許這樣處理的對啊 所以你看我記得我們環境部在7月9號在媒體上你們有公開講 |
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說太陽能板不是免污染的綠色標章那而且你們也說這個破損破碎的光電模組如果沒有及時處理長期的話會釋放出鉛 鎘 銅等有害物質 |
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會造成我們污染所以如果長期你堆置風吹日在雨林它勢必就會這些有害的金屬啊所以我們很快的大概最晚最晚一家是9月5號它已經清除原來的大自然的環境了 |
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所以重點現在當初講一個半月現在三個月是還沒有清理完我們已經在原來的案場毀壞的早就已經到9月5號前清完了那是最後一家其他大概一個月就清完了那至於說他最後放在什麼地方現在還有1.2萬噸他是在他的站置場的廠房那有些是放在他自己租用的一個地方那都必須遵循著廢棄物的管理的準則來辦理 |
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所以目前沒有一個光電板是隨便丟在可能是任何的這個草地或農地上面的所以這部分部長還是要幫我們了解一下因為這裡一定要嚴格監督我們就是擔心它這個長期破損的光電板你堆置在農地上一定長期堆置一定會釋放出這個有毒的物質這個我們不被允許的因為他們 |
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元玉這家的確他有放在跟台塘豬的農地上面那經過這個媒體報導之後他也很快的就把它清除掉了好 那先請一下我們能源署的署長 |
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是 署長我請問一下因為我看我們這次的報告我們經濟部裡面都沒有提到這個災後光電板這些處理的情形是 那這個跟經濟部不是也有關係嗎 |
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那為什麼都沒有這些的相關的資料事實上我們是 剛才講我們是由業者清理出他的廠區外就剛才那個滯融池我們是把它清理到這個廠區裡面外那但是他清理到廠區外後續就是剛才環境部報告的他們會再把它送到這個後面的處置廠那如果沒有完全送到處置廠的那他就目前他是租廠房把它堆置起來 |
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大概是我們分成兩個部分一個就是在廠區內的部分那這一部分是屬於農園署主管的我們會請業者在廠區內把它清理出來那出了廠區之後後續的回收資源再利用處理因為我們是看到你們上面沒有報告這個資料後來我們自己去有調閱啦那我現在疑問的是這一次嘉義新莊智鴻池光電板這暗場這個業者到底是誰 |
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這個業者一個是元玉那目前大概元玉有三個滯洪池那麼處理的比較慢那所以之前環境部去那邊也跟他做三次處分所以經濟部這邊登記的是元玉嗎是元玉 對那彭部長我請問一下為什麼環境部登記的是淨金生能源他兩個一樣嗎 |
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一樣 它是那個股東但是公司登記它叫原域公司那為什麼同樣的一個廠在經濟部登記跟在環境部登記是不一樣的公司 可以這樣喔這個我們再查一下它應該是同一個公司只是它有的時候是一個母公司子公司的關係所以這樣子是合法合規的 是嗎它同一個廠在經濟部跟環境部登記的是不同公司這樣子可以 |
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這個我們要了解一下它是不是子公司跟母公司的關係那我們可以來查所以我們覺得很奇怪我們一去查 奇怪同一個廠兩個部會登記的居然是不一樣而且我們經濟部跟環境部這兩個部會尚未處理的廢棄的太陽能光電板 |
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環境部部長剛剛說是一萬兩千片那經濟部是多少片目前我們是以環境部為主因為它已經破損了所以可能看到它是東一塊西一塊所以在計算的時候可能會有一些誤差 |
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那我們現在後來我們是以環境部的為準這樣對啊因為我們得到的經濟部的資料是一萬五千片然後彭部長也說的是一萬兩千片因為他有的時候他一片他會破掉變兩三片所以從這個部分你看從我覺得經濟部跟環境部這邊吼真的要跟我們說明一下登記的公司也不一樣然後你們這個最後處理資源化處理還沒有處理部分 |
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數量也不一樣 我在想這兩個部會是不是都沒有在溝通協調這個案子都沒有來連結出來我們後來就以環境部的為主就剛才報告因為有一些他本來是一片破損成好幾片那這在計算上可能會產生落差 |
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好 這個部分我希望像剛剛登記那個公司我覺得還是要給我們一個說明那兩個部會同一個廠登記不同公司在環境部跟經濟部登記的都不一樣這到底會是不是 這有合乎規定嗎 |
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那其實據我們了解我們台灣現在好像處理這個破損的光電板是不是只有4家廠商那4家廠商 據我們了解這4家廠商它5年來處理的數量根本都沒有超過2800公噸所以這個2800公噸 |
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基本上我們處理的量能就是有問題根本就不可能在一個月一個半月內去把它處理好所以這個量能根本完全我們完全沒有辦法去處理 |
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因為過去我們這個量能本來是太舊換新他定期除役那這是因為受了風災所以才大量的有大量的出來那所以是這樣的情形他過去是我們這些處理是有借領的或偶爾有損壞的那麼才太舊換新的時候才在處理這些所以我們現在也擔心啊你經濟部一直到處全台灣到處都在設這個光電板 |
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你看一個嘉義的你就處理不了那我們在想以後你現在這量能你就已經遠遠不及那以後勢必這個量能要更大以後我們這台灣全台灣的光電板到底要怎麼處理 |
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是 那麼當然這次是因為百年來的天災唯一一次從嘉義上岸那是一個比較特殊的情形那另外在後面量能的處理我們會繼續跟環境部來合作那另外我們為了因應這次風災我們也加強了管理 |
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比如說剛才委員指教的就是說因為風災會造成光電板的受損那我們這一次檢討之後我們把屋頂型的光電板我們就要求過去只有技師簽證我們現在是要求技師簽證要耐17級風我們加強它的這種耐風的強度那麼加強它的管理那另外大型的這個太陽光電廠我們現在是要求它比較災防法要提出災防計畫好 那 |
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那個彭部長我們那時候8月22號我們有到桃園東宏國際光電去現場看他處理這破損的光電板那我們也發現他光電板他各個廠的種類型號而且各家廠的尺寸好像不一樣對不對沒錯有大有小所以現場我們也看到他要處理 |
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這個破損光電板它要有一個尺寸的機器裡面那如果這個尺寸不一樣它的機器勢必也沒有辦法這樣子去處理所以我們覺得很奇怪為什麼這光電板你沒有標準化給它一個標準化的尺寸將來回收也才有辦法標準化去回收處理啊 |
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不然你看你這個量能我們又沒辦法處理然後你的規格尺寸又不一樣又造成回收業者在處理又費時又費工而且浪費他的金錢 |
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那這部分我們沒有辦法統一尺寸嗎這個未來我們可以來改進因為目前並沒有訂定它尺寸的國家標準所以大概都是長成那個樣但是稍微都有不同那委員只要這個我們可以來跟標準局來討論是不是可以訂出一個國家標準來訂定統一的規格跟形式 |
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我是建議啦 你像你看以前我們台灣那個寶特瓶的瓶蓋它後來是整個尺寸統一之後它製造也節省很多的成本再回收處理也可以加快它的速度所以我覺得這個 |
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太陽能光電板應該我們也要來讓它統一尺寸標準尺寸以後回收處理才可以減少它的時間而且可以不用浪費那麼多時間不用浪費那麼多的成本安裝設計也會比較方便對啊 所以我覺得我們這主管單位應該要下來處理這個讓太陽能光電板去標準尺寸怎麼每個廠種類 型號 尺寸全部都不一樣 |
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還有一個最後因為這個風災發生之後我們發現我們太陽能光電板雖然上面好像有它的序號但是它是用貼紙貼的對不對 |
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那貼紙貼的你看現在有很多它現在根本這個貼紙都掉了所以根本不知道這是哪一家的到底要由誰來負責那以後這些太陽能光電板它的期限到之後以後萬一這個貼紙掉一大堆廢棄的要找誰來處理 |
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所以連民眾都有講說這麼簡單的問題不會用鐵色的嗎用貼紙你看這個風災水災的時候貼紙都掉了到後面根本找不到這個業者是誰有誰來處理 |
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好 這個我們來檢討看看有沒有辦法其他方法讓這樣的東西能夠不要因為風災還是下雨或是浸泡就脫落我們來研究看看有什麼方法可以處理這樣對啊 因為我們現在全台灣到處都在做這個光電板嘛那你看現在這麼多的問題我希望在尺寸還有這個標籤上面都一定要去加強 |
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還有剛剛講的那個兩個公司別不一樣的部分也請部長到時候給我們一個答覆好 謝謝謝謝土全級委員 |