| IVOD_ID |
163886 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163886 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-20,15,35,19,22,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
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| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[5] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T10:59:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T11:05:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0087148c90fd6edcd2b1f00580874b155656cd2b685a6ecb811b2de8b317ab69f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:07 - 11:05:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案（114年度至116年度）」【詢答及處理，預算提案於10月8日上午10時截止收件】【10月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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主委慢慢來沒關係林委員好主委好這次的特別預算在海委會的部分有295億6千多萬其中包含強化國土防衛能量279億其中籌補各式海空無人載具編列了40億9千多萬 |
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當初你們編的這個預算其實我相信我們都會支持因為的確我們這個海陸空要立體來支援那我請問一下主委這個特別預算這只有無人機嗎有包含無人艇嗎那預計籌補多少海空無人載具需求的類型為何 |
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跟委員報告我們在無人機的部分有分進程、中程、建載還有特勤所需總共加起來是451架你說這次特別預算要籌補的是不是是 |
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總共是451架我們分年來編列的話這次的特別預算絕大部分都編在這次的特別預算希望能夠一次來補足因為我們有非常急迫的需要希望這次特別預算能夠補足451架就對了是那這是無人機部分所以這是沒有無人艇的部分 |
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跟委員報告其中有建載的部分我們這次特別預算還不夠我們未來要補後面的尾數這樣子但是我們需要趕快的能夠上路另外無人艇的部分我們目前的規劃是25艘目前是25艘水下也是在特別預算裡面 |
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那水下的部分我們大概實驗性的我們會先引進那數量比較是個位數我們先來引進所以水面25然後水下的是實驗型的是但是我們也有水下聲納的部分是 |
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我們水下聲浪現在必須要加強部署譬如說我們有好幾次黑盒子是靠海巡的水下的聲浪第一時間很快的先去測掃以後能夠定位 |
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因為我看主委有去參觀這一個國防展你說要投入68億推無人載具可是我們看到預算是大概40幾億所以這個多出來的基本上不到68億因為這期間還有包括其他的親間徵在裡面 |
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對 這個68億有包含其他的譬如說我們的勤奸針的系統這個是立體嘛有水下 有水面無人艇然後還有無人機以外我們還有次世代的雷達還有紅外線還有環島的港艦那我了解那請教一下主委不過因為我們過去這個海巡署 |
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從107年到108年還有112年到116年都有兩項無人機的採購但是這個計畫好像執行力都有一點落差我舉最近的112年到116年的計畫因為無人機的引擎技術超越廠商能力所及所以沒有辦法執行這個案子然後你們在去年9月修正這個計畫 |
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所以這個計畫到目前為止都等於是沒有在執行跟委員報告海巡署是國防部以外中華民國政府最早使用無人機的我是說這個計畫國內的產業也是持續在發展預算通過給你們之後 |
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有沒有信心目前產業的成熟度已經相當的成熟目前我們的規劃都可以來達成買到我們所需要的所以現有的無人機體有符合現在的需求嗎還是還要再等 |
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現有的無人機我們需要再更升級那我說預算特別預算通過之後你們要買的是現有的已經有現貨就對了對已經有現貨就對了技術上成熟的商品化了你們在執行上面的確有出現問題因為客製化那第二 |
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執行有問題的這個是因為我們客製化那現在沒有客製化就對了那廠商最後能力還不到那個是國內整體產業的問題那最後一點時間主委請我請一下顧部長最後一個問題你邊走我邊念這個烏克蘭總統俄羅斯基有點名台灣這個零件用於俄軍的無人機跟飛彈有這件事情嗎 |
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我這邊沒有相關的訊息沒有相關的訊息那有去了解嗎因為這個是他們的總統哲倫斯基親自寫出來的就是說台灣有這個零件用在這個俄國的無人機跟飛彈那你們有去了解嗎因為這個報導出來之後你們有去了解嗎我想有關於這些民間他們在相關的這些零組件的供應鏈上面我想是可能是相當的 |
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有一個不是那麼直接的一個管道那我們沒有辦法能夠排除但是我們也沒有辦法進一步來進行確認因為相關的這些都屬於民間的部分你們要去確認喔因為就算是民間的你們也要去確認喔就像說台塑去買的這個俄羅斯的油一樣啊那現在如果民間的這些零件用在俄國的無人機的話 |
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我覺得這對台灣人的形象不好而且這個是指輪司機他指輪司機他直接點名因為民間部我想我們會跟經濟部一起來這個來調查清楚好不好要不要我們跟經濟部一起來來調查清楚那調查結果再跟等級來做說明再跟李坤城委員來做報告好不好好 謝謝李坤城委員接下來請鍾嘉斌委員 |