| IVOD_ID |
163879 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163879 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T10:37:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T10:43:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff092e2f9392a3422520a8af512ffeae19c522ce05ac16c04005c646c8d84b4e4215ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:37:15 - 10:43:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央選舉委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。【10月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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來謝謝有請李主委請主委委員好謝謝主委你也即將在下個月任期屆滿是謝謝委員的支持這幾年從2018之後公投綁大選之後那有做了很多包含選務上幾次的大選那中選會也是辛苦了 |
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那我重複一下剛剛其實高警委員沒有講清楚的事情讓主委這邊也可以再重複的回應一次修好了選罷法修好了是什麼修法修好了我來重複一下因為我等一下還會跟主委談到1994年的修憲那所以呢立法院去年度的修法我覺得大家還印象深刻的時候我們在這邊也重複一下是什麼東西修好了 |
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选罢法是把罢免制度里面的联署的规则修好了中国国民党加上民众党把联署的规则改成必须要附身份证附身份证影印的联署之后目前还没有任何一案的罢免案产生对不对 主委 |
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目前没有所以在上一次所有中国选会所举办的这个所有的罢免投票里面是没有含身份证影本的对不对都是适用旧法适用旧法所以新法他说修好了的意思是说以后的罢免必须要付身份证影本所以当时民进党的委员我们党团才会 |
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把這個主席台站下來希望可以吸引全國的目光讓全國的民眾知道未來罷免他是要付身份證影本不是我們這樣子人數少就被強行通過我們用盡了所有的辦法希望所有的民眾可以知道這件事情這個是去年罷免案那剛剛有委員說修好了其實是修這個事情我在這邊 |
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重複一下 接下來我也看到在我們開議前那其實已經有很多風向球出來了包含中國國民黨的委員有提出來總統 副總統選舉罷免辦法要不要提出兩輪制的投票 |
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那我來講一下現在現行寫在我們憲法徵修條文裡面的因為主委過去是法律界出身那也擔任過司法官那也擔任過內政部市長也擔任過各個相關的政務委員等等的那我想要請教主委1994年修憲的時候在憲法徵修條文裡面 |
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中華民國總統副總統由自由地區全體人民直接選舉之而且總統副總統候選人因聯名登記在選票上同一列列同一組圈選以得票最多之一組當選這是徵修條文裡面的內容如果改成兩票兩輪制那原本票在第一輪最多的卻在兩輪制裡面 |
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第二輪裡面變成沒有當選請問有沒有違反這個憲法徵修條文裡面的內容憲法的徵修條文沒有改變的情況之下的話根本沒有所謂的第二輪對好那如果他去修兩輪制那變成第二輪裡面他其實在第一輪投票的時候他是票多者依據憲法徵修條文票多者他已經當選了 |
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對不對啊你改成第二輪變成他沒有當選這樣有沒有跟憲法抵觸這相關的配套一個制度必須要都周延啦所以有一些問題不是那麼簡單的就說一輪兩輪絕對都是相對都是不是還有其他配套的這個制度怎麼配套好怎麼配套跟憲法抵觸的時候怎麼配套主委你是法律人啊跟憲法抵觸的時候怎麼配跟憲法抵觸就無套可配了你就要修憲嘛 |
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是不是就要進入修憲上一次的修憲是1994年的時候民定總統副總統選舉辦法票多者當選好時隔30年台灣這一套民主制度台灣也從1996年開始總統直選之後所有的這一套民主制度我們目前已經選出了歷任的總統 |
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而且都是依循1994年所修憲的這一套版本如果要碰到要把第二輪投票放進來勢必抵觸到憲法徵銷條文勢必回歸到1994年這一次的修憲內容其實已經否決了第二輪的投票其實已經否決了當時要做這個當選門檻的這個投票所以 |
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不要再避免了就是說我的意思是說包含限訴法你用限訴法去毀掉大法官的這些釋憲的這些功能之後難道台灣的大法官台灣的憲法法庭就要停擺嗎你現在可能因為認為 |
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賴總統他這次當選的票數雖然在相對多數的比較下他還是當選總統你就要去修改二輪投票請問1994年以來投票到現在你就要把它推翻台灣現在民主的這些養成嗎他還是必須要依靠一部憲法啦所以我要論述的是可以修改但是你要修改的最後其實是憲法 |
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我們依循的我們的民主我們的選舉等等我們都依循這一部憲法在運作所以主委最後我還是那個邏輯第一輪投票票多的應該當選總統沒有錯而且我們憲法裡面也沒有寫到什麼第一輪第二輪投票如果要討論的話是不是應該進入修憲我剛剛就已經講過了這個是必須要修改憲法相關的規定謝謝 |