| IVOD_ID |
163869 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163869 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T10:34:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T10:45:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0ec2685169496d0a1cea2f7e777e01e95522ce05ac16c04005676bdfe407d455b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:34:00 - 10:45:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、勞動部部長及衛生福利部部長針對「災後復原重建及清理因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另邀請國防部、經濟部、內政部、賑災基金會列席備詢。【10月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席請施部長請施部長跟我們食藥署今天是副署長嘛主委你好辛苦了我要問 邱振基問苗栗的我要問這個屏東的來這個大腸啦 大腸 |
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一下子說一萬多公斤 一下子說一千多公斤到底是幾公斤 不對跟委員報告 我們把它分成兩個一個是去查這一家公司 這一家百威公司現場就把它封存的 還沒有流出去的 就封存的封存的一共是一萬 |
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12604公斤 那個是都還在倉庫還沒有出去的那個就直接封存掉的 12604公斤然後流出去的還有一些還沒有真的賣掉的我們就讓他下架的 所以下架的是2430公斤 |
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阿然後真的已經賣出去的就是784公斤不對阿這隻的大腸都是從屠宰場來的嗎還是病死豬的 |
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因為我們有做這個整個產製銷整個一貫的追蹤溯源所以它的源頭呢那麼經過這個農業部的證實它並不是來自於病死豬因為我們最怕的就是病死豬 |
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我們這個台北市公司都設到台北市工廠就設到屏東然後社會成本跟汙染都在屏東我們屏東還背這個爛名跟罵名 |
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還有汙民所以這個我全部都接受的這個養豬業者都是合法合規的健康豬這個也有被證實因為而且是國產豬啦所以這個豬是健康的所以是在屠宰場拖出來的後面的加工過程主要這個黑心廠商是加工加工 |
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雙氧水嘛他用工業用的雙氧水雙氧水是可以用我們要用食品級的雙氧水他用的是工業級的 |
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阿如果用漂白水跟韓綠那是很恐怖的那是H2O2喔H2O2不是不是不是不是漂白水過癮抹清那吃了就死了啊沒死也抹掉嘛阿你食藥署到底是有的有的有的欸補貼不準欸一天在蘇丹洪一天在什麼這食品的每天在出事情出事情的機率不算勞動部捏所以喔 |
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所以都要戰戰兢兢的我現在看到很多人每天都在吃大湯麵線 麵線雞 |
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所以若不是為死去的破壁這樣我們就比較安心要確定喔你今天為屠宰場開每一個公家的大群的或者是財產法人的屠宰場都有授意吧授意都在做假的 都要回他們那裡 |
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所以這地方就一定要到這個時代一定要很扎實那如果是屠宰場出來的放在那邊壞掉 爛掉 炒掉再拿去加工 用過氧化氫用磁力酸 洗一洗讓它沒鼻子 |
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大家都吃下肚 那個是很可怕的事情部長 我們食安的問題跟勞安的差不多 都是很重要的這食品 攸關到人民的日常生活所以這絕對沒有半點可以沒有空間所以這個業者我們絕對重罰 |
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我們今天就會開出處分五千多萬罰金就會先執行不會等到這家百威還是這幾家百威百威百威因為違法的是這幾家應該是這是你們的土喔這幾間是 |
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因為我們是要讓民眾了解流向只是要讓他清楚流向不要造成整個市面上的恐慌所以就是目前看出來有賣出去的大概就主要兩個地方一個是屏東的和聲市場另外一個是台北的寧夏夜市其他地方沒有 |
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大家的食安問題都經常互相互動我常常聽到很瘋狂的那個三合一卸財 補償努力那個健保署跟CDC我要問那個花蓮子事 |
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你現在大家都在說很多很多很多八八風災的時候我就在拿冰淇淋加冰在救都一樣一模一樣都在外面都是土石流要跟你請教的是說這些老人這些老人他風災要來了火水要來了他們可以先拿著去拿藥嗎拿他們慢性病的藥嗎沒有了藥出問題了他什麼用的無人機要去送藥 |
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縫縫這麼大 第一陣子就裂不開 無人機裂不開實際上是有問題的 保證你這樣縫縫可以拿這麼長 這樣縫 |
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健保署 健保署不來喔有啦 有啦 健保署健保署的問題我可以回答你那關的啦再來就是藥啊我們常常吃的藥都是用那種大瓶散裝的這個是很糟糕的 |
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在八八風災的時候 那個時候楊志良當署長 衛生署署長那時候我去站著看 所以要到呂伯包的 下坡的呂伯定製 放在那裡 下坡也要站起來喔 熱熱的 水沖沖的 裡面的油不淡 |
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所以你一定要用 尤其是台灣這麼多災難的地方你一定要用鋁箔袍塞進去可以保留更久 你要讓他們落地反射幫他們補充那個油給我強烈建議因為你那些散裝的油要一小時就淡了我問這個怪獸達人 |
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怎麼會這麼快就撐起來CDC你有研究看嗎教委員爸爸 剛才我說的這個油壓的部分對那種排裝藥 不是散裝排裝藥的話我們都有地板架的保護特別合價上 價格上會不一樣那麼這個地板架的落差也不同第二個提早領藥這個問題比較麻煩的是因為 |
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每次預警的時候 時間跌跌都不是說很重所以這個比較難說發佈說大家趕快去拿藥這個是比較困難但是長假的話我們都有我們預定的長假 譬如說過年這種長假我們都會提早讓他可以提早拿雖然他的那個藥還沒有吃完他就可以提早來拿慢性藥藥品重疊不用抓到癌 |
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是 店鋪就有一個 收尾就有一個上下跟委員報 現在也在研議比如說你有一些自動調劑機那個都是要排裝所以有時候沒辦法算到我們這裡要用加的嘛這樣會影響到採購那個自動調劑的意願所以我們在研究看讓它有一點點 |
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淡泊的浪費重疊沒關係這樣才能夠讓整個我們的調劑更安全更自動化也減輕臨床的負擔至於這個個案當然這個是很晚期據我們的了解到目前為止培養的細菌上還沒有完全可以確認當然這個本身的很多的 |
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自身的免疫也會受到因為沒幾回啦我看到40幾回因為這有一些有underland disease沒有啦因為我們在屏東要常常處理海洋腐菌那我看這個 |
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英雄喔 他是小腿受傷嘛小腿受傷 那就趕快切開 引流 清創我們在海洋附近的切就是抽屎桿 抽屎桿如果沒有就不會活了沒有真的 拜託真的這也要借這個機會呼籲要呼籲就是說因為太投入救災啦稍微沒有去注意到 稍微慢了一點很可惜 |
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578.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
602.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
我覺得在這種救災的地方,如果閒雜人等,不用去那裡倒牢,在那裡讓壯雅的人去就好了,不然大家在那裡插來插去,因為我的印象,像我在林邊那個時候,林邊那個很嗶嗶,非常非常糟糕,你知道在現場有多少人嗎?林邊,兩萬五千人。 |
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607.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
622.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
一天上去便當 兩萬五千粒我在那裡做醫療 我說得很清楚我都不好意思 去別人家便當都在外面住 我上來華谷山的 慈濟的 延遠不絕地上來兩萬五千的 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
625.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
649.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
效率打折啦所以喔 這裡要呼籲說大家愛心 我們都很欽佩但是如果你沒有專業性的 相信不要去啦去那是真的假造成人的困擾啦所以這裡不是要打大家的士氣是事實上是這樣那這個急性創傷的處理 如果是小腿 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
650.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
671.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
搞到這樣子我是有點沒辦法接受啦 也很可笑的啦所以在這裡 可能要再加強啦譬如說基層的醫師或者是都要初步傷口創傷處理還有研判啦 這個不是等閒事之啦 |
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673.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
674.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
謝謝蘇清泉委員 謝謝石部長 |