| IVOD_ID |
16386 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16386 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2024121799 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-18T15:30:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-18T17:31:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:00:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-12-18T16:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院朝野黨團協商（事由：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案」等案。二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院、考試院函請審議「中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案」等案。三、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「運動部組織法草案」等案。四、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「運動部全民運動署組織法草案」等案。五、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案」等案。六、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案」等案。七、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「國家運動科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案」等案。八、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案」等案。(詳如附件)） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:30:22 - 17:31:00 |
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好,協商時間已屆,那麼現在開始協商會議本日協商行政院組織法、中央行政機關基準法、運動部組織法還有運動部全民運動署組織法、國家運動產業發展中心設置條例國家運動訓練中心設置條例、國家運動科學中心設置條例 |
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教育部組織法等因應運動部成立之相關法案共計八個主題稍後按協商通知排序依序進行協商。協商前先介紹道場委員及機關代表首先是國民黨的鄭天才委員歡迎您民眾黨的吳春成委員歡迎您 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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處長李松茂處長國教署張永傑主任秘書 |
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以及黃崇斌先生組織總署由我們李培元檢認視察。」歡迎您。那麼司法院有調部辦事法官趙雲英法官歡迎您。內政部有何俊達專門委員、移民署人事室嚴主任。好,抱歉喔,後面兩個字可能不是怕念錯。那麼外交部有陳佑芬專門委員歡迎您。財政部有副組長吳 |
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吳松柏、吳巧梅、國參署劉專門委員、負稅署劉旭峰先生、法務部調部辦事楊石宇先生、 |
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檢察官、經濟部、我們翁古松組長、交通部、觀光署、方振亮主任秘書、行政司、中企榮、 |
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劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政 |
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馬勒夫勒路夫杜達公共工程委員會李賢長副處長以及國家通訊委員會的蔡姓怡專門委員。目前有簽到的人員我都逐一介紹,如果名字有跟您唸錯請包涵。 |
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那接下來呢,我們就開始主案進行協商。協商時請參閱協商條文對照表、審查報告及淨附二讀提案關係文書。與會委員如有修正動議或是機關有建議內容,請提書面,應發現場進行討論。好,那麼首先進行主題一,司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議許委員 |
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委員徐富奎等十七人、委員吳佩義等二十一人、委員林一錦等十九人、委員鄭天才等十六人、委員陳冠廷等十七人及委員范雲等十六人分別擬去。行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案等期案。審查會前逾十一月十四日審查完順。審查結果第三條照行政院提案通過並決議不須交由黨團協商違經 |
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十二月十三日第十一屆第二會期第十三次院會決議交付黨團協商。」現在開始相請各黨團代表表示意見。那是否在場有吳委員跟鄭委員,哪一位要先發言?各方請送到我們委員的面前。行政院組織法 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政院組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案、考試院審查行政院函請審議 |
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所以前提是要我的建議是先審這個中央行政機關組織基準法好那麼這是政委員的意見那不然我們請問那個吳委員是否同意 |
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主題二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院、考試院函請審議《中央行政機關組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案》等案 |
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組織基準法第二十九條及第三十三條條文修正草案、委員吳佩儀等二十人、委員林益靜等十九人、委員鄭天才等十六人分別擬據中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案及委員陳冠廷等十六人擬據中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條條文修正草案等六案。委員審查會前於十一月十四日審查完畢。審查結果除第三十三條保留外,其餘均由審查結果通過。 |
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並決議須交由黨團協商．令十一月二十二日第十次院會將委員盧明哲等十七人、委員鄭天才等十九人及委員萬美玲等十八人提案禁覆二讀．十一月二十九日及第十一次院會再將委員林倩琦等二十一人、委員張雅玲等十六人及委員張志倫等十六人提案禁覆二讀與相關提案併案協商。以上共計十案併案協商為求效率。是不是我們先就 |
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保留條文進行討論。」如各位協商代表對於審查會通過條文有意見,那麼代表保留條文處理完畢後再接續進行處理。請問各位有無意見?那如果沒有的話,我們請各黨團代表先表示意見,先就保留條文的部分來進行討論。那也待會請機關代表就保留條文進行說明。哪位委員要先發言? |
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二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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目前條文是以七十個數為限,我們提出要以七十五個提升為七十五個,才能夠應用現在這個運動部會增加兩個數的需要。」 |
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部沒有增加兩個數,增加一個數。」運動部增加一個數?對對對對對,但是就滿額了?沒有沒有,運動部,運動部,然後總數沒有增加。總數。來來,那政委員請。請。那個,因為現在叫體育署,體育署就是三級機關,所以它就體育署提升為 |
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部函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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所以才會提要去增加,所以是不是要請這個行政部門來說明一下。」好,謝謝。那麼剛剛民眾黨代表五委員,他們針對第三十三條保留的條文,主要是在第四項的部分。他寫第一項及第三項屬局之總數,除地方分支機關外, |
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以七十五個為限,現行條文是七十個。」那至於鄭天才委員的提案也是在三十三條第四項他說第一項及第三項屬局之總數除地方分支機關外以七十一個為限七十五跟七十一那其他的委員提案呢也多數是以七十一那原條文是七十那是不是我們請行政機關做說明請 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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我聽到的是蘇貴仁市長是說目前現行維持七十個違憲那未來如果有新成立的署那麼也是在七十個當中調整那我的理解啦我來演繹一下就是要增加一個就要減掉一個啦那既有的三級機關的署如果要維持七十個那新增一個舊的就要整併一個那目前之所以維持運動部之後維持七十個是因為原來的體育署減 |
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部新增運動部新增運動部新增運動部新增運動部新增 |
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那我想這個這樣好不好兩位黨團代表那如果本案因為各版的條文的規定都不太一樣那是我我們就本條保留好謝謝那我們本條保留好那接下來我們進行主題一齁那麼既然我們主題二已經保留那我們主題一的部分回過頭來先處理那麼 |
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行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組 |
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就司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議委員徐富奎等十七人委員吳佩儀等二十一人委員林怡瑾等十九人委員鄭天才等十六人委員陳冠廷等十七人及委員范雲等十六人分免擬拒行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案等七案。那麼當時我們的協商是本案都支持沒有不同意見那請問今天的在場各位委員黨團代表是否同意這是運動部的部分 |
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我們桌上有行政院組織法就是原來十四個部會增為十五個部會那增加一個運動部好請吳委員臺灣民眾黨沒有意見謝謝那麼請問國民黨政委員沒有意見好那我們照審查會審查結果通過我們協商決議就是照審查會結果通過當然當然當然我們這個一個一個來啊 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案。 |
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行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議 |
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行政院函請審議國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案等十三案、行政院函請審議國家運動科學中心設置條例部份條文修正草案等十三案以及行政院函請審議教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案 |
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等十九條條文修正草案．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商． |
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以及委員業員之等十九人及委員徐曉新等十八人有關於國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案提案以及委員徐曉新等十八人有關於國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案提案以及委員業員之等二十人及委員徐曉新等十八人有關於國家運動科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案提案以及委員科政等十六人、委員徐曉新等十七人及台灣民眾黨 |
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黨團有關於教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案提案近乎二讀並與相關提案併案協商。」以及在十二月十三日第十三日議院會再將委員張雅琳等十六人所提國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案、國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案、國家運動科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案提案,致委員會抽出近乎二讀與相關提案併案協商。 |
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以上個案均於今日併案協商。」那麼請各黨團代表表示意見。我們就從主題三到主題八,一共有六個法律修正案。那麼請表示意見。來,政委員,請。要跟這個,趙偉。 |
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部組織法及後面的這些組織法規本席提案,一開始如果你回憶一下,就是我有針對舉例子,舉例子比如說這個運動部組織法的第八條本席的條文 |
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修正條文增加前項既用人員、既原住民身份者不得低於百分之二十。然後針對這個需要公務人員內用資格的,我也特別增加 |
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這個前項委員、檢任、見任、委任、各官等委員及原住民身份者均不得低於百分之十本法所定禁用原住民比例現有顏額未達比例者是非原住民公務員出街後再行禁用補足。 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函 |
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原住民的運動人才非常非常的多,這個比例很高,所以這個無論是不需要任用資格的跟需要任用資格的都應該能夠有這樣的一個比例,至於比例是多少才是適當,這個是我上次也說大家可以討論,所以這個部分是不是也能夠請行政部門能夠同意,以上。 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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委員會審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 等案 |
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政委員提出我們原住民有很多優秀的運動員,我想這個大家都非常清楚,但是提出以公務人員各官等10%、聘用人員20%的比例來禁用原住民族一節,那麼我們 |
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如果按照現在最新的在113年10月的這個原住民族人口總數佔我國人口總數是2.6%那北北基是1.9%那過去在規範的一些架構上我們看到就是如果說要把這個 |
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部及全民署工作地點,非屬於原住民族區域,以及教育行政及經濟行政等現在的考試類科,近三年原住民特考都有入局不足的情況,如果這樣的規定可能將來 |
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3510.6 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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所以這部分其實已經提供了原住民工作權益之保障。另外,組織法的體例裡面,如交通部的觀光署,目前也只規範為原住民族地區之機關預算原額含約用人員、技工工友等具有原住民身份者不得低於六分之一。 |
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3561.172 |
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那所以這個未來運動部成立之後我們是希望說能夠透過資源的整合保障選手、教練等工作權益那麼來行訴運動全民化、全民化那將來會帶來更多的運動 |
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工作的機會,比如說我們將來會成立很多的社區運動俱樂部那麼對於極限、海域、山林等多元運動的發展我們相信原住民運動選手將來都會非常有機會而且這個站在運動部的立場也會進行實質而有力的支持所以我們是期待說避免各族群在遠用比照以及橫頻的考慮就是說不要影響運動部及全民組織法通過的期程 |
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3595.535 |
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行政院組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 等案。」等案。 |
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禁用,那麼我們會特別來積極提報原住民特考的職缺,那麼在具有相同資格條件及專業下,會優先來禁用原住民。」那麼也懇請說不要在組織法裡面就來訂定禁用原住民組的比例,就是說它以現行的法,這個我們對原住民的一個工作,譬如說特考這部分,事實上現在都還有不足而禁用的問題,那我早上也特別跟 |
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組織法第三條條文修正草案．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院組織法第三條條文修正草案．事由．立法院組織法第三條條 |
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所有今天要通過的要審查的今天所有審查的這些機關未來這個設立的地方都不會在原住民族第七這是第一個第二個剛才次長特別提到原住民的人口只有百分之二點多沒有錯但是我們在 |
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運動人才的體育人才的比例就非常非常的高我們就以這一次的這個棒球世界棒球賽二分之一是原住民二分之一是原住民所以這個部分這個是應該要列入列入這樣的一個比例 |
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提議書回棄再查看當初我們在質詢審打的時候,部長是同意的。 |
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部長同意納入所以你們再回去看這個議事錄所以這個部分請教育部我有講過比例可以討論 |
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到底是要多少的比例可以討論,而不是全盤的否決。」以上。謝謝齁,那麼在行政機關代表回應之前齁,那也跟鄭天才委員做個意見交換啦,因為當時這個案的審查是我主持啦,那因為當場的情況,是因為鄭委員很懇切,大家都期待能夠早日通過,所以你也不堅持,所以該案 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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法案照行政院提案通過後,他們會在實際的執行上去盡量貼近您的主張。」我提到的是法是按照行政院提案至於做法上會盡量的按照您的目標去邁進那因為如果當天部長是說願意接受你的提案那我們的委員審查就不會按照行政院提案通過了是因為部長是也是 |
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遵照行政院的提案,但是他說未來在禁用人員的時候,會往你的期待去貼近。」好,那這個我們還是請張亮次長,他今天是代表部長來發言,請表示意見。好,我再來補充一下,謝謝。我們是可以說用附帶,像這個有沒有用決議,附帶決議的方式,就是說我們會盡力來輔佐啦,就是說有很多優秀的運動 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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產業發展協商協商協商協商協商協商協商協商協商協商 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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運動選手及運動的了解,我們知道有很多 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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部及人員軍用的需要,積極提報原住民特稿的職缺。」 |
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運動部監督三個行政法人,持續專財、專用、視財、視所的原則,也在具有相同資格、條件及專業下,優先禁用具有運動專業的原住民族人才,以落實多元族群和諧共享 |
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和諧共榮的體育運動,重要台灣的願景。」這個我們來努力啦,好不好? |
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委員好 那麼鄭委員剛剛有提出是不是說我們在修法立法之後我們的因為立法理由也跟次長說明因為立法理由當天本來鄭委員就提出在委員會的時候表達但是由於行政院的提案裡面的立法說明好像是沒有辦法再附上去的啦所以是不是有其他方法來處理看看鄭委員有什麼高見第八條的附帶決議看能不能來寫 |
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組織法第三條條文修正草案審查行政院函請審議 |
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後面的署包括中心都一次的講就是不想拖延大家的時間所以顯然這個不論是教育部或是相關的機關顯然並沒有很重視所以如果你們應該去盤點 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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部組織法第三條條文修正草案 運動部組織法第三條條文修正草案 |
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貴應運動發展多元化金融人才,得益聘用人員任用條例之規定聘用運動相關領域專業人員。」在行政院的提案說明當中,我們可以看到我們的會議資料的討論討97頁。 |
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以及第九條本部各職稱之官等職等級原額另以編制表定之。」那行政院的提案說明就很簡短就在我們討論的第106頁的內容 |
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委員會審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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提案內容我們以一個附帶決的方式來刻以行政機關在未來依法執行的時候要能夠體察我們立法者所期待的一個運用的方式。當然就是在條文的架構下 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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做附帶決議的研擬 |
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運動部未來將四業務及人員禁用需要,積極提報原住民特考職缺。」另外一個就是說我們運動部監督的三個行政法人也一樣會持續秉專才、專用、事才、事所的原則在具有相同資格條件及專業下優先禁用具運動專業之原住民組 |
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有優先禁用原則及保障條款,將來遇到類似狀況,我們一定會優先運用原住民族人才,以落實多元族群和諧共融與體育運動創造台灣的願景。」 |
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行政委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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第二段我講說在具有相同資格的條件跟專業下我們的三個法人也一樣會優先聘用原住民因為現在原住民運動比較強比如說你在奧運或者說在棒球你說十二強其實那些選手他們大概第一個他們一定會先去支棒球隊他們薪水比較高 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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部審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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好謝謝次長的說明那也跟兩位黨團代表的委員說明那因為我們今天處理方式我要再說明處理方式因為如果說我們沒有辦法在今天就這個這主題三到主題八大家在委員會非常積極共同促成通過的法案在今天的黨團協商完成的話那麼 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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共識及結果 。」那我們都知道在未來的院會的表決當中如果是黨團協商能夠同意不需再經過院長、朝野協商因為走院長、朝野協商可能是沒有結論那沒有結論進入院會的表決就會受到其他議案的影響那如果今天我們能夠做成黨團協商不需交由院長進行朝野協商那包括待會如果同意的附帶決議我們就會排入院會當中 |
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不及相關組織的成立。」 |
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行政院組織法第三十九條條文修正草案》等案。 |
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那我們就不帶院長另外召集朝野協商,就可以直接排入院會處理。那如果這個附帶決議不能代表委員不能達成共識,那我這邊就只能交付給院長做朝野協商。藉時能否在院會裡面順利處理,我沒有把握,那懇請的跟兩位委員、黨團代表做說明,也因應期盼,這是全民的共同希望。」好,那請政委員表示意見。 |
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因為這個行政院組織法跟中央行政機關組織基準法都要協商嘛都要協商所以這個不差只剩下原住民的條款嘛只剩下原住民條款也是講一次而已啊到時候韓院長主持了所以也是講一次所以這個部分最重要的還是教育部要拿出誠意 |
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這已經是奧運的選手,不會來這些地方了。我們很多的運動人才是從國小、國中、大學這樣一步一步上來。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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部及相關的組織修法 其實是 |
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百分之九十九大家都是一致願意支持的。」那關心的政委員所關心的那第三十三條是屬於行政院組織基準法那個部分那個的確一定要走院長朝野協商的流程但是我們其他的部分如果今天能夠達成黨團協商的結論那未來在院會進行處理的時候 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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這個院長在主持的中央行政機關組織基準法還有行政院組織法的時候把其他下面的運動部以下 |
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有本席提到的原住民條款的部分拿出來就不要再浪費那麼多的紙張了也不要浪費大家那麼多的時間就等於是其實就是兩個議題了交給函院長主持的就是兩個議題一個是中央行政機關組織基準法嘛第二個就是原住民條款就這樣兩個議題這樣的話就時間上 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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那個不能談完之後,中央行政機關組織基準法談完之後,你才可以去通過這些,不能這個先通過啊。這個不能啊,一定要先通過那個中央行政機關組織基準法跟行政院組織法以下的才可以。所以也不會,這個也不能,跟一般的法案不太一樣啊。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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交、懲請院長進行朝野協商,那個是行政院組織法第二十九條,第三條。那麼另外呢,我們有關於中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條,那個部分,就會涉及到三級機關。 |
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但是那個條文最後怎麼處理其實跟我們主題三到主題八有沒有設立全民運動署及其他相關的行政法人其實是沒有關聯的啦你是七十一個、七十五個 |
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其實呢,就算按照既有的現行條文的七十個這些今天討論從主席三到主席八的這些所有的組織的相關法令規章都是沒有衝突的我想還是要釐清其實今天大家要理解我們行政院組織法第三條已經獲得一個 |
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協商得到結論,就不用再交付院長進行朝野協商,未來在院會處理會非常的壞。」那麼接下來主題三到主題六,我們不去碰觸到主題二的中央行政機關組織法、組織基準法的那兩條,一樣按照現在的規劃,因為這裡面所有的都是從 |
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全民運動署已降相關的行政法人等法規的成立。」那這個也還在既有的中央行政機關組織基準法原條文的七十個額度內是涵蓋的,是沒有問題的。但是如果我們黨團有覺得要趁此機會同時將行政機關、中央行政機關組織基準法的第二十九條、第三十九條同時把它增列七十一或七十五 |
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那個令案跟現在的主題是並行不備的,那個地方就算修到七十一或七十五都不會影響到目前我們今天討論的全民運動署及相關行政法人組織的通過,因為這些都是在原 |
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七十個三級機關的額度內並沒有影響。」容我在這樣的說明。那麼這樣的說明,政委員還是覺得希望將這些不受到中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條、第三十九條,現在我們剛剛可能要交付給院長進行朝野協商的部分,要跟他併加一起,那我想也是尊重委員的意見。但是我要說的,那個是不受影響的。 |
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如果不跟那個案子並在一起朝野協商由院長來進行那麼未來在院會處理的時候就不會跟現在所有帶院長協商的這些爭議性的法案綁在一起做處理了我已經是再三的說明因為運動部為什麼張教司長也不放棄想要來爭取一個共識因為接下來走的路徑會不同我們本年度會期的定期會 |
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是到十二月底。」那如果今天的協商可以獲知決意、同意、結論,這些 |
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全面運動署已詳這相關的行政法人的組織這六個主題都可以達成朝野協商的結論我們不用再黨團協商結論不用再送交院長就不會跟現在那些爭議的法案綁在一起了我真的是跟政委員再次說明真的跟三十九條、二十九條、中央行政機關組織基準法無色啦現在我要處理,來,那個請政署長最後的 |
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政委員我這邊真的是懇切的請求委員的支持因為其實我們的附帶決議其實可以達到委員的需求的理想那為什麼要這樣講的原因是我在體育界這將近二十年的參與 |
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我們一直在講說我們往運動員要尋找工作、職壓輔導,那事實上非常非常的困難。為什麼?因為運動員大部分他們真正想做的是能夠成為職業選手,想要成為基層的教練。我們為什麼在這一次大力推動全民運動?就是希望整個改造我們台灣的運動環境。我們是透過全民運動組整個社區化之後,我們希望創造更多的教練的就業機會。 |
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才能真正照顧到所有,當然不只是原住民吧,所有的體育科系出來的運動人才、多元人才都有就業機會。所以其實不是說不支持原住民去做體育的行政人員,而是這部分你當定下去,我們真的 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案．事由．司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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我們最後齁,來,鄭委員。最後齁,這個要跟趙薇講齁,絕對是需要行政院組織法的前提是中央行政機關組織基準法要確定,然後行政院組織法也確定,下面的才可以,才可以審啊,在院會啊,就沒有錯吧,齁。 |
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運動部運動部運動部 |
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部組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 提報行政院特考,運動部組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 提報行政院特考,運動 |
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部及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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先讀那個那個兩個沒有通過你運動部組織法也不能我們不能通過也不能在宴會先通過啊這是事實啊好來這樣子啊鄭委員我分成三個部分啊首先您對於這個剛剛 |
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部所提出來的附帶決議,我覺得您說得很有道理,也就是說它其實的句號它分成第一段跟第二段,它沒有切開。運動部及所屬行政機關,未來視業務及人員金融需要,積極提報原住民特考職缺,這是指運動部及所屬的行政機關。這個是第一條公務員,就是涵蓋你的一個第二個部分。 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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主題三到主題八我們不能達成協商共識就沒有結論。」那當然就是提請我們院長做朝野協商到時候會跟其他的朝野的爭議的法案併入到協商後在院會另行排案處理但是但是第三個部分就回應你說的 |
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那如果我們這個附帶決議做成之後,那你所關心的中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條、第三十九條,雖然我還再強調一次,目前的現行法的七十個署是跟現在的主題三到六的包括全民運動署及所屬行政機關完全不衝突,完全可以容納進去。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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因為排案要表決還是由程序委員會排案那如果當屆時您認為中央行政機關組織基準法沒有經過草野協商沒有達成共識那麼這些不能夠一併交付院會進行二三度的處理那就在那個時候的排案把它排在一起那排案的順序可能就變成說先處理您所關心的中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及三十九條經過草野協商院長組織後草野有共識 |
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部及其所屬相關的也過了,您所關心的增加三級機關為七十一個或七十五個的也過了,那個是可以的,但是我們今天可以先做這個處理。」 |
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以後在排案的時候再滿足您希望的那個要求。」那我跟您提啦齁其實目前我們程序委員會的排案順序是由國民黨黨團在主導啦齁這怎麼排案的都是國民黨黨在主導所以這個案子如果我們今天朝野我們的黨團協商有共識 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行 |
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附帶決議的部分第二我們今天先有黨團協商的結論讓他可以未來在院會進行二三讀的排案處理然後您所要求的部分那就交給院長朝野協商的時候再並中央行政機關組織基準法的協商結論在排案的二三讀處理後連同這些再去排案處理今天我們做成的決定不會決定他怎麼排案處理啦 |
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正委員,這個行政院組織法跟中央行政機關組織...這真的是?行政院組織法第三條我們已經有協商結論了您講的是中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條、第三十九條啦這是兩個不一樣的,一個剛剛已經簽協商結論了要多一個不才可以 |
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及所屬機關各年度提報原住民特考的職缺數不少於該年度提報各項考試職缺總數百分之十。 |
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司法及法制委員會審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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部及各所屬機關各年度提報10個原住民特考,一定要一個是在運動部裏面。你只有談行政那個公務人員的部分了,那不需要公務人員資格的部分呢?就所有的那個是我們原住民特考的職缺數裏面那個是需要公務人員資格的那個我謝謝你寫這樣但是對於我們更有更能夠進入的就是那個 |
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部組織法第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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我們就保留宋朝野協商了啦我想這樣好了啦我想今天大家已經這麼努力了大家的努力都看在眼裡了也都錄影了也都轉播了那我想鄭委員你所做的努力我們也肯定但是你這樣子堅持下去我是覺得我們並沒有辦法在本會期結束之前促成這個大家共同期望的事情好那個朝野協商就是這樣大家互相的體諒那你一直堅持我們附帶就也提出了 |
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中央行政機關組織基準法第三十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案 通過之後,當然就要院會處理,那我們現在處理的所有的這些,都跟那二、三十三條無關,因為二十九條運動部要增加一個二級機關,十四變成十五,我們已經,大家已經達成共識了。」 |
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三十九條的施行日期,大家有沒有不同意見?那您很在意的,您跟五委員、民眾黨黨所在意的三十三條,七十個三級機關要不要改成幾個?其實今天大家都同意那個可以,大家再去朝野協商。所以只有這樣的一個朝野協商需要去達成的三級機關的額數,我們因此反過來綁住了運動部要成立,行政院二級機關要增設為十五個,大家也沒有不同意見? |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案：立法院朝野黨團協商．事由：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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行政院組織法通過下面一個案就是運動部組織法這個我都清楚啊這個我很清楚不會所以我才會說怎麼樣去簡化節省這個時間交給院長協商的時候不要很多資料第一個就中央行政機關組織基準法就是民眾黨的那個兩條條文一起討論然後就是原住民條款一張紙一起討論 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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實質上的內容,我們今天要有結論的部分都不會跟那個七十五個三級機關有關,但是表決的時候由於民眾黨的提案的設計,它兩個條文放在一起,所以表決的時候一定是兩個條文一起表決,但是這兩個條文事實上 |
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除了確認到七十五個之外,另外一個條文是大家都有共識的。」所以呢,在表決也會只是出現在七十五條的部分。那至於到時候是採用哪一個版本,朝野協商的時候,其實民眾黨的提案的三期行政機關的七十五個,是否要視為一個案的同時處理,在朝野協商院長的層級是一併可以處理的。 |
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所以我只是說現在我們只希望說如果已經有共識有結論的部分不要再去勞煩院長去處理朝野協商了那如果您堅持說連今天的附帶決的內容都要院長朝野協商我們今天就不用討論了嘛我們今天所說的附帶決議可以形成今天的黨團協商的結論那麼院長未來在組織朝野協商的就是三級機關的額數那那是因為額數一定 |
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未來在議案表決的時候民眾黨的提案是要一起表決還是藉此民眾黨可以同意用什麼方式去處理去彰顯他們七十五個三級行政機關的部分我都尊重但是今天那兩個附帶決議的目的是希望不用再提交給院長去進行朝野協商您剛剛還是希望那兩個附帶決議到院長的朝野協商沒有嘛那沒有就今天做成結論院長朝野協商就不會處理了就不用處理了啦好不好 |
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議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
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三十三條的三級機關的額數處理完的時候才有辦法在院會進行二、三組的處理嗎?這是事實那個是事實講的是事實但我要講的是實質上我們今天這些的內容都跟三、七十五個三級行政機關無關啦我只是表明這一點好不好那這兩個戶待決定如果您可以同意的話我們今天就可以有協商結論就省去了院長再去進行相關這些主題三到主題八的朝野協商啦可以嗎? |
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二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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我沒有特別意見,您覺得可以,我沒有意見。您堅持這樣的意見,這個附帶決定當然沒辦法成案啊,那沒有成案我們就不能有會議結論啊,當然就這樣子啊,對不對?您代表國民黨嘛,那您覺得這個附帶決定您不能接受,我們就宣布沒有結論嘛,那我就來宣讀了,好不好? |
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| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
6338.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
6339.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
6361.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我們聯席審查把這個黨團協商跑完因為今天那您認為那個附帶決議您要交給院長朝野協商沒有沒有沒有他們如果改好的話根本就不行啊這個你們修好了沒有是不是要再給我們政委員看一下因為我覺得我有一點失焦啊到底您所主張的條文你哪裡不滿意如果教育部可以給政委員看可以我們就把附帶決議嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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兩位黨團代表的委員,看起來我們最後峰迴路轉可以有結論,我們附帶一句大家看過沒問題我就宣讀,宣讀完我們拍個照,好不好?歷史時刻,全民因應其判,民眾黨團、國民黨團,我們共同促成,好不好?打字好的部分再請政委員過目。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
6941.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
部組織法及所屬行政機關行政法人草案附帶決議,運動部及其所屬行政機關未來將是業務及人員禁用需要積極提報原住民特考值缺,且運動部及其所屬行政機關各年度提報原住民特考值缺數不得少於該年度提報各項考試值缺總數百分之十。 |
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部監督之三個行政法人亦持續秉持專財專用、私財私所之原則,在具相同資格條件及專業下,將優先禁用具運動專業之原住民族至運動部及其所屬行政機關之聘用人員部分,釋出聘用人員總數百分之五禁用原住民族,以落實多元族群和諧共融及體育運動壯大台灣之願景。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
主題二 |
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好,司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院、考試院函請審議中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九等六案以及二、委員魯明哲等十七人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條條文修正草案案委員鄭天才等十九人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第三十三條條文修正草案案委員萬美玲等十八人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第三十三條條文修正草案案 |
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委員林倩琦等二十一人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及三十九條條文修正草案案。委員張雅琳等十六人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案案。委員張志倫等十六人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第三十三條及三十九條條文修正草案。協商結論第三十三條保留送院會處理。其餘均照委員會審查結果通過。然後 |
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主題三到主題八的協商結論運動部組織法草案等三十二案一、新增附帶決議一項如復見二、其餘軍造審查會審查結果通過二、運動部全民運動署組織法草案等十九案軍造委員審查會審查結果通過三、國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案等十四案軍造審查會審查結果通過 |
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四、國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案等十五案均照審查會審查結果通過。五、國家運動中科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案等十六案均照審查會審查結果通過。六、教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案等二十二案均照審查會審查結果通過。 |
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好,那麼稍待我們議事人員都已經完成了嗎?都簽名了,那今天我們拍個照好不好,今天的協商終於峰迴路轉,苦盡甘來大家努力不懈之下,終於將運動部及其所屬行政機關及行政法人都通過了,那麼本席就簽名了那個政委員這張你拿著,這個你的 |
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感謝今天所有出列席的行政機關代表大家真的是大功告成非常感謝非常感謝大家也謝謝今天各黨團的代表委員的出席也提供保貴意見讓我們可以促成這樁美事那今天的會議到此我們就散會謝謝 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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謝謝各位黨團幹部，現在三黨的幹部都已經到現場，我們可以開始如期開會。 |
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主席 |
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2024-12-18T15:32:47.231455+08:00 |
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1 |
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我們要特別謝
謝教育部鄭部長再一次蒞臨到院裡面，為了我們今天朝野協商課綱委員會的事情，部長您是不
是還是再一次報告？ |
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主席 |
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1 |
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因為上次有些黨團幹部可能沒聽清楚，您報告完就可以離席了，因為後面
我們可以來討論，好不好？ |
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0 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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這樣的話，對你們、對黨團來講……
我們先請教育部長報告完，就請他們離開，好不好？ |
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0 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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不要浪費他們時間。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2024-12-18T15:42:28.157273+08:00 |
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1 |
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部長，您根據我們
第一個…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
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1 |
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等一下，主席。好。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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部長，對不起，請稍待，有黨團幹部有意見。 |
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0 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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院長，今天我們要朝野協商，不外乎就是要解決事情，那我們今天看到國民黨黨鞭也
沒有來，我們等傅崐萁來再講，好不好？ |
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0.122 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T15:52:09.083091+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-12-18T15:54:34.314545+08:00 |
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很多事情是我從頭到尾……我把實況講給大家聽。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-12-18T15:54:34.314545+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T15:56:59.546000+08:00 |
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我們稍微等一下，現在有幾個黨團幹部，因為電梯非常地擁擠，他們現在正在搭電梯，柯總
召的意思是說等傅總召來他再講，請大家稍微再等一下。 |
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0.017 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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院長，課審委員會照正常比例也不用協商，就發給大家簽一簽就好了。 |
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0.071 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T15:59:24.777455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
1 |
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他們不必報告
，協商比例、政黨比例，我們簽一簽就好了。 |
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0.045 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
主席 |
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2024-12-18T16:01:50.008909+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:04:15.240364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
好，大家請安靜。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-12-18T16:04:15.240364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2024-12-18T16:06:40.471818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
教育部鄭部長跟各位列席的教育部官員，再次感謝大家為了課審委員會委
員第二次來到院裡面，剛剛我跟柯總召也溝通了一下，到時候各政黨派代表就好了，您跟所有
官員就請先離開，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.064 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-12-18T16:06:40.471818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2024-12-18T16:09:05.703273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
這樣大家都輕鬆，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-12-18T16:09:05.703273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-12-18T16:11:30.934727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
好，謝謝鄭部長二次蒞臨。協 2 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-12-18T16:11:30.934727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2024-12-18T16:13:56.166182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
謝謝主席，謝謝各位委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-12-18T16:13:56.166182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-12-18T16:16:21.397636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
根據這個，我們各黨團來派自己的…… |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-12-18T16:16:21.397636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-12-18T16:18:46.629091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
還是 7、7、1嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-12-18T16:18:46.629091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-12-18T16:21:11.860545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
對，我們會派出 7、7、1，特別跟鄭部長報告一下，謝謝大家，7、7、1 是根據慣例嘛，謝
謝教育部鄭部長，謝謝各位教育部列席官員。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-12-18T16:21:11.860545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-12-18T16:23:37.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
請各位黨團幹部聽一下，有關行政院函請推舉社會公正人士組成高級中學以下學校「課程審
議會委員審查會」乙案，依政黨比例，由國民黨推派 7 位，民進黨推派 7 位，台灣民眾黨黨團
推派 1 位組成，名單請於 12 月 26 號（星期四）中午 12 點前送至議事處彙整，逾時視同放棄。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.262 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-12-18T16:23:37.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-12-18T16:23:59.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
各位在座黨團幹部都沒意見？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.417 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-12-18T16:24:03.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-12-18T16:24:08.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
沒有意見。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-12-18T16:24:38.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-12-18T16:30:49.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
好，謝謝，我先簽這個，我們一個一個來，請黨團幹部簽一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.391 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-12-18T16:30:49.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-12-18T16:30:59.839600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
對不起，主席…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-12-18T16:30:59.839600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-12-18T16:31:09.978200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
我可不可以詢問一下，針對課程審議委員會，因為它現在是 12月 24號任期屆滿……
不過現場人都跑掉了，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.095 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-12-18T16:31:09.978200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-12-18T16:31:20.116800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我們想了解，由於這個是 26 號送議事處彙整，這個時程會不會影響它的遴選作業？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.188 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-12-18T16:31:20.116800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-12-18T16:31:30.255400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
會不會影響整個委員會的運作？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-12-18T16:31:30.255400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-12-18T16:31:40.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
因為 24 號就任期屆滿，但是名單是 26 號才正式要去彙整，所
以第一個，對於遴選作業會不會有影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.105 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-12-18T16:31:40.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:01.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
第二個，對於委員審查會的運作會不會有實質的影響
？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:01.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:04.698429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
不曉得可不可以有…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:04.698429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:07.514857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我來回答啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:07.514857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:10.331286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
24號到期，然後 7、7、1大家都簽好了嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:10.331286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:13.147714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
而 26號，到了以後不是隔
一天就開會，它沒有馬上開會，所以並不會影響啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:13.147714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:15.964143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
各政黨比例出來以後，他們再召集開會，
這種召集開會可能一、二、三月都不知道，所以根本不會影響。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.025 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:15.964143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:18.780571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
沒問題的，我立刻跟教育部協調這個事情，如果他們沒有任何影響，我們就照這個案，如果
他們有影響，我再跟大家報告，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.157 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:18.780571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:21.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:21.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-12-18T16:34:21.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-12-18T16:34:21.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-12-18T16:40:52.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
我特別補充報告，教育部正式通知，1月 21號之前把名單送過去就 OK了，1月
21號之前，所以時間一定夠，特別跟王鴻薇首席副書記長報告一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.218 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-12-18T16:40:52.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-12-18T16:47:23.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
各位黨團幹部、各位列席官員、各位新聞界好朋友，大家好。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.174 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-12-18T16:47:23.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:08.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我們正式開始召開今天的朝野
協商，首先，柯建銘總召對程序問題有意見，請表達。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.303 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:08.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:13.489702+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
請傅崐萁總召注意聽，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:13.489702+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:18.449404+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
我今天在這裡要表達的是，我們希望要有一個中立院
長，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.077 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:18.449404+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:23.409107+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
立法院長中立是國會上非常重要的角色，所以今天特別請韓院長來主持朝野協商
，我為什麼要這樣講呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.279 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:23.409107+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:28.368809+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
因為我們中間有發很多文給你，我等一下一一敘明，院長表示你可以
來表示意見，第一個是我們對於這整個始末。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.065 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:28.368809+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:33.328511+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
第二個，今天的開會通知是開會到晚上 6 點，然
後時間可以彈性調整，這個到底是什麼玩意啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:33.328511+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:38.288213+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
因為一般委員會到 5 點半就 5 點半，傅崐萁想
協 3
要延長開會到 12 點，然後把這輾壓過去，門都沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:38.288213+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:43.247916+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我現在先告訴你，不要在那邊傻笑，好不
好？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.059 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:43.247916+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:48.207618+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:48.207618+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:53.167320+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
另外會議場所的安排，朝野協商本來就是要每個人都有麥克風，故意安排在紅
樓 101，協商的時候各黨只有一支麥克風，然後在做這種舞弊的行為，所以針對以上我表示嚴重
抗議。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.014 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:53.167320+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-12-18T16:48:58.127022+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
好，我現在開始講…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-12-18T16:48:58.127022+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-12-18T16:49:03.086724+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
不必，我講完再回答，這個你都必須接受的。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-12-18T16:49:03.086724+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-12-18T16:49:08.046427+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我現在開始講，有關選罷法，今天在爭
議的就是審選罷法當天把人圍起來，不讓人進去開會，然後自己開會，這個假如算數的話，我
就請問院長，以後院會也可以如此嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-12-18T16:49:08.046427+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-12-18T16:49:13.006129+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
把門鎖起來，不讓民進黨進來，然後國民黨在裡面三讀
通過，請問韓院長，你會配合嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-12-18T16:49:13.006129+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
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絕對不可能嘛，國家不是這樣搞的，所以用這個邏輯和理論
來談今天整個我要談的事情，上禮拜五我們大家協商的時候，我們說有什麼事情照議事程序來
，是不是？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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我們答應的事情，包括證交法什麼的都要通過，乃至於要表決的項目就是原住民族
委員會組織法，我也答應讓我們發言完畢，表決輸了就算了。 |
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至於後面我們要釋憲或是要提出
訴訟，那是後面的程序，所以這個是非常重要的，我們要確定這個原則，這樣院會以後才可以
進行，你沒有程序正義，其他的都不必講了。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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所以我們在上禮拜五很有誠意的，包括跟傅總召，大家協商簽名，因為原住民族委員會組織
法曾經在兩個禮拜前打過架，我不希望再這樣子，立法院不應該這樣，至少整個程序正義要守
住，發言也要發言完畢，表決輸了，後續的程序我們要怎麼做，包括爾後這幾個重大法案。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:49:37.804640+08:00 |
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我要在這裡談的就是，從本月 20 號，也就是禮拜五，到下個月的 1 月 21 號是我們的延會期
，這一個月的時間是臺灣最關鍵的時刻，因為所有國民黨要毀憲亂政的法案全部集中在這裡，
包括憲法訴訟法、財劃法、警察人員人事條例等等，所有國民黨要的法案全部集中在這裡，一
看這些法案都是大有問題的，不是國民黨認為輾壓過去就可以得逞的，我這樣講的意思就是，
未來這一個月決定了臺灣的生死，臺灣的民主能不能夠踐行，臺灣的憲法體制能不能踐行？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:49:37.804640+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:49:42.764342+08:00 |
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未
來臺灣這個國家是不是還會動盪不安，還是處於高度的衝突底下？ |
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0.036 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:49:42.764342+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:49:47.724044+08:00 |
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就看未來這一個月，這一點
我們大家先有基本的觀念和看法。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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所以我們就想好了，我們希望維持程序正義，我們輸了，我們可以認了，這個是一個原則，
上禮拜五也踐行了，大家都照這樣做，於是乎我們就看到禮拜一內政委員會排了選罷法，也就
是說多一票的這個選罷法，那選罷法有兩包，一個是身分證，可以表決是沒有錯，另外這一包
是多一票，所以傅崐萁委員在禮拜天晚上 7 點鐘以一副很忠厚老實狀的問我說：「要怎麼處理
啊？ |
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| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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」我是這樣講的：「我們希望有一個中立的院長，但是不希望有一個使詐的傅總召，然後
有一個違法的秘書長。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:50:02.603151+08:00 |
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」等一下我要講秘書長的問題，這一點要先跟大家講清楚。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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傅崐萁一副
老朋友狀，很撒嬌，禮拜天晚上 7 點他問：「我們禮拜一要怎麼處理？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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」我說很簡單，就是照
議事程序處理，我們上禮拜五是照這樣的，委員會亦復如此，你要程序發言就程序發言，你要
大體討論就大體討論，然後要逐條討論就逐條討論，以這樣的時間，因為禮拜一是一整天的，
絕對走得過去。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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到最後出委員會的時候，只是在最後不到 1 分鐘的時間，你們強行出委員會，
我也沒有辦法，這是議事程序，所以不管委員會、院會都應該遵守這個原則，否則立法院永無
協 4
安寧之日。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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所以傅崐萁問我，我說是這樣的沒有錯，他禮拜天晚上 7 點打電話給我，說禮拜天
晚上 8 點我找我們黨團所有的幹部，這一排都是，還有比這一排更多，到我辦公室，我們找一
半的人到我們辦公室，我來遊說我們黨團成員，不管怎麼樣，我們在國會是多數或少數，都要
秉持這個原則，今天我們在國會少數也是堅持要這樣的原則。 |
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因為過去我們都曾經執政過，少
數執政過，也國會少數過，只剩下 27 個也在搞，至少有一個基本的遊戲規則。 |
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| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:50:32.361364+08:00 |
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所以我就告訴傅
崐萁說，今天晚上 8 點我會把我們這整排的幹部找到辦公室，我來遊說他們，我們不要打架，
我們來建立立法院的典範，雖然我們是少數，但是我們要照遊戲規則來，輸了鼻子摸一摸就算
了，以後要釋憲再釋憲，要緊急處分再緊急處分，那是一回事情，這樣民主才會踐行。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
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2024-12-18T16:50:37.321067+08:00 |
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臺灣從
戒嚴時期犧牲了多少上一代臺灣人，然後幾十年來我們好不容易走到民主，我們要好好珍惜，
這是我們堅持的，況且我從事民主運動已經 60 年了，民國 60 年我就在黨外時期，到今天我還
在堅持一個原則，如果輸了就要認，但是我們至少要站在道德裡面贏得民心，「橫柴入灶」永
遠都沒用啦！ |
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國民黨的百年政黨會倒，我們都看得很清楚，所以這是一個民主的基本原則，而
且守護臺灣、守護民主，這是民進黨的 DNA。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:50:42.280769+08:00 |
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2024-12-18T16:50:47.240471+08:00 |
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所以我告訴傅崐萁，我 8 點遊說我們黨團成員，
這些人都是被我遊說的，我們不要跟人家吵架，我們照規則來，輸了就算了，我們再來釋憲，
大家都同意，然後開完黨團會議的時候，我說我遊說完畢以後，你再打電話給我，傅崐萁很急
，4點鐘就打來了，他說怎麼樣？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-12-18T16:50:47.240471+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-12-18T16:50:52.200173+08:00 |
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我說就照這套沒問題，我們就照這樣來做就好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
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其實我不是不認識傅崐萁，我認識他很久，我們立法院正式在處理事情，不是在玩股票、會
耍詐的，不是可以叫人家說要買多你再放空的。 |
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| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-12-18T16:50:57.159876+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:02.119578+08:00 |
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傅崐萁是我老朋友，我才知道，你做股票出身
的，但是你用在老柯身上，或用在立法院上是不通的啦！ |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:02.119578+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:07.079280+08:00 |
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你看他現在笑起來很尷尬，所以我就
知道傅崐萁在搞什麼鬼。 |
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| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:07.079280+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:12.038982+08:00 |
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他問完以後，他說你們人怎麼跑去那邊照相？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:12.038982+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:16.998684+08:00 |
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我說照相是去留念而已
，我們就馬上走，不相信的話你去看看，而且黃捷講一句話：「明天見」，代表我們不會夜宿
，黃捷講明天見，傅崐萁聽了深得他心，他的龍心大喜啊！ |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:16.998684+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:21.958387+08:00 |
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這個千載難逢的機會，趕快讓他們
全部進駐，進駐的時候，你所模擬的方式、你所想得到的方式，其實我都想過了，在立法院所
有的奇招異術、議事規則，沒有人比我更清楚，我希望你們不要班門弄斧，竊取任何智財權。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:21.958387+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:26.918089+08:00 |
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因為我早就知道傅崐萁和徐欣瑩還有國民黨有人在立法院出沒了，我們在晚上就看到你們在
裡面出沒了，我就知道這些人月夜風高，絕對不幹好事的，他們下一秒鐘就馬上把一個鐵門拉
下來、鎖起來，他們全部進來，另外一個鐵門用桌子擋住，阻卻民進黨的人進入議場。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:26.918089+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:31.877791+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
有個天
才叫徐巧芯還用保鮮膜把門封起來，以為民進黨已經藏在裡面，結果他門打開怎麼鬧一個空城
計，這是那天的場景。 |
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| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-12-18T16:51:31.877791+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:36.837493+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
那天大家推擠造成的景象以及難看的場面，電視都有在報，我想不必贅
述了。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:41.797196+08:00 |
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我們知道他們耍詐，韓院長你大概不會忘記這個禮拜一的事情，八點多我就打電話給你
，那時候還沒 9 點，我說韓院長，今天選罷法大家在那邊拚輸贏，然後你聽傅崐萁的指揮，下
午排一個朝野協商，朝野協商排了很多法案，但是那時候排的法案還比較正常一點，從發展觀
光條例開始，然後老人福利法、就業服務法等等，憲法訴訟法以及財劃法放在最後，這個 OK。 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:41.797196+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-12-18T16:51:46.756898+08:00 |
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我說韓院長怎麼可能調虎離山，讓我們腹背受敵，今天早上這個衝突已經山雨欲來風滿樓，戰
雲已經是布滿整個立法院，大家都非常緊張的時刻，豈可以下午再來搞這一套。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:46.756898+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:51.716600+08:00 |
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你聽我講，然
協 5
後韓院長我稱讚你很明理，你說好，我聽得懂，那你去跟傅總召談一下。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:56.676302+08:00 |
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於是我馬上打電話，
八點多的時候打給傅總召，他現在還在假裝看手機……傅總召聽我講，他同意，他同意但他在
耍詐我怎麼會不知道，他說同意下午不要朝野協商，朝野不要搞那一套。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:51:56.676302+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:01.636004+08:00 |
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好，一再確定，結果
傅崐萁在 9 點鐘以前突然打一個電話給我，說我們不是要「照步來」？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:01.636004+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2024-12-18T16:52:06.595707+08:00 |
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你以為我不知道你們在
搞什麼，林淑芬把電腦以及資料抱走。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:06.595707+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:11.555409+08:00 |
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我說那個不太影響吧，那就大家停下來協商就好了，我
們既然要照程序來，我就叫他拿回來，我們開始發言照程序來開會嘛！ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:11.555409+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:16.515111+08:00 |
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然後老朋友傅崐萁又興
起了他炒作股票的念頭，下一秒就通過了，根本把我「裝肖仔」，而且馬上出委員會。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:16.515111+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:21.474813+08:00 |
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在一個
沒有議事人員在場的時候，後來議事人員抓進去了，好，沒有關係，也就是不讓人進去但可以
開會，這樣的會能算數嗎？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:21.474813+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2024-12-18T16:52:26.434516+08:00 |
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那以後立法院院會也可以這樣喔！ |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2024-12-18T16:52:26.434516+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2024-12-18T16:52:31.394218+08:00 |
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我今天下午還打電話給我以前一
個老朋友叫徐欣瑩，他過去在新竹曾經跟我們合作過，也是老朋友，他是一個吃素的人，他也
是妙天的弟子，勸人為善。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:31.394218+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:36.353920+08:00 |
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我說徐欣瑩，這樣可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2024-12-18T16:52:36.353920+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:41.313622+08:00 |
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如果這樣可以，那立法院關門就好了，
他竟然跟我睜眼說瞎話，他說我門沒有關，我說我知道你門沒有關，但我們的人都不能走到那
裡啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2024-12-18T16:52:41.313622+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2024-12-18T16:52:46.273324+08:00 |
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你 201 會議室沒有關沒有用，我們沒有辦法走到 301 會議室去，你不要跟我講這些嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2024-12-18T16:52:46.273324+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2024-12-18T16:52:51.233027+08:00 |
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這是一個很重要的原則，這招如果可以，我們絕對不會認這個帳。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2024-12-18T16:52:51.233027+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2024-12-18T16:52:56.192729+08:00 |
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所以後來他們真的這樣搞的時候，我很好意，但我們所有黨團成員非常生氣！ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:52:56.192729+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:53:01.152431+08:00 |
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吳思瑤帶我們
黨團成員在議場門口開記者會，那是非常感動的一刻，因為我在辦公室裡面，吳思瑤委員帶我
們黨團成員所有人在議場門口開記者會，表示嚴重的抗議。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:01.152431+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:06.112133+08:00 |
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我還很好意的馬上打電話給韓院長
，我說這下子他們等一下會去圍你喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:06.112133+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:11.071836+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
你要有心理準備，我不是通知你偷跑耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:11.071836+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:16.031538+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
我只是跟你說
一下你就偷跑了。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:16.031538+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:20.991240+08:00 |
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於是乎他們就去找韓院長，當然我打這個 pass 韓院長就翹頭了，他就翹頭了
……「落跑」。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:20.991240+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:25.950942+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
我是好意啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:25.950942+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:30.910644+08:00 |
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沒有關係，這個是博君一粲啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:30.910644+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:35.870347+08:00 |
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他們要進入院長辦公室，當然周萬來擋
住，不能擅闖，沒有問題，就到中間你接待外賓的地方那裡等你來嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:35.870347+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:40.830049+08:00 |
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你一直都沒有出現，我
知道你一定不會出現的。 |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:40.830049+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:45.789751+08:00 |
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我們馬上發文給你，第一個，因為下午兩點半要協商，你一定會出現
嘛，第一個是發文給你，早上那是違法的行為，我們一概不認帳，假如這樣的話，所以發表一
個嚴正的聲明給你，各位手上都有。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:45.789751+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:50.749453+08:00 |
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阿川，你分送給對面參考一下，讓他們看一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:50.749453+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2024-12-18T16:53:55.709156+08:00 |
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再發第二份公文給你，表達我們是絕對沒有辦法認帳的，我唸一下：立法院內政委員會審查
公職人員選罷法，發生國民黨委員阻擋其他委員到內政、交通兩個委員會簽到，發生重大衝突
，嚴重影響本院委員出席，在程序不完備之下，在此表示嚴重抗議，爰就今天下午兩點鐘黨團
協商，請韓院長擇期再開。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2024-12-18T16:53:55.709156+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:00.668858+08:00 |
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這個事情不處理的話，你再談法案就沒有用，同時我們臨櫃親送、
發文給議事處，叫我們黨團幹部到內政委員會送給內政委員會，內政委員會召委說：你不可以
違法再發，否則我們絕對會移送法辦的。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:00.668858+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:05.628560+08:00 |
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公務人員行政必須行政中立，不只到監察院、不只是
到法院，都可以告你行政不中立。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:05.628560+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:10.588262+08:00 |
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我現在言明在先，你不可以這樣亂搞，而且我們下午就要朝
野協商來解決這個事情，請你不要發文。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:10.588262+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:15.547964+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
結果呢，我是不好意思讓他漏氣啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:15.547964+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:20.507667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
我們立法院偉大
的活字典──周萬來，我何曾不認識呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:20.507667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:25.467369+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
周萬來竟然可以命令內政委員會發文，這個違法的秘
協 6
書長，非常嚴重，院長已經考慮要議處了，這是他所謂的委員會中心主義？ |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:25.467369+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:30.427071+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
叫他們發文，發審
查報告出來，我們今天早上果然收到了，真是何其離譜啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:30.427071+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:35.386773+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
一個立法院秘書長可以公然違法！ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:35.386773+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:40.346476+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
什麼叫委員會中心主義？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:40.346476+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:45.306178+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
所謂的委員會中心主義就是所有的法案要在委員會裡面好好討論，不
可逕付二讀。 |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:45.306178+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:50.265880+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
請周萬來找一個委員會中心主義是委員會可以瞎搞的委員中心主義給我看看，這
根本棄絕法律。 |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
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| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2024-12-18T16:54:50.265880+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2024-12-18T16:54:55.225582+08:00 |
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禮拜二那天你到立法院的接待外賓室，因為大家圍起來不讓你開嘛，後來你就到立法院，我
們黨團在立法院中庭接待外賓室那裡，你跟我們所有的黨團成員協商，吳思瑤及我們所有的幹
部都在那裡等，等韓院長的一句話，結果你來了之後竟然也講這是委員會中心主義，然後你就
跑了。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:54:55.225582+08:00 |
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院長，你不要被周萬來誆了，什麼叫委員會中心主義？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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委員會中心主義不是這樣解釋，
你要依照立法院職權行使法第六十八條，我講給你聽，你所有的權力來源就在這裡，最重要的
就是這個，一個中立型的院長，包括王金平院長以前都遂行這個。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:05.144987+08:00 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:10.104689+08:00 |
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第六十八條怎麼講？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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議案協
商有衝突與糾紛的時候，院長可以主動召集協商，不管委員會在哪裡亂起來，院長當然要召集
大家來協商，好好的讓立法院能平順。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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另外，各黨團也可以發文叫你召集協商，所以這是一個很重要的法律基礎，也就是職權行使
法第六十八條。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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韓院長，你所有的權力全部都在這一條，而且我曾經跟你講過，我過去曾罵你
是歷史罪人，我在這裡跟你抱歉，但是那天我還在臺上跟你講，你可能會變成歷史偉人，你只
要主持中立，立法院──國家的民主燈塔能夠繼續發光，國家民主憲政體制能夠踐行，當作世
界法案的標準，這是我們所驕傲的。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:24.983796+08:00 |
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所以韓院長只要踐行立法院職權行使法第六十八條，你絕
對會得到歷史該給你的桂冠，這是我講的。 |
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| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:29.943498+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:34.903200+08:00 |
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今天我們再回到這裡的時候，我要講的是，我們就發文給你了，持平而論，剛才院長也講過
一句話，沒有關係，等一下都可以講，你再來裁決，這一點我很感謝院長，我希望剛才我進來
時跟你講的話，而且你具體想講的話，也不外乎這幾個字而已，就是我們有意見的話，他會秉
公處理，所以接下來我要看韓院長你要怎麼接這個球，在我對面的傅崐萁戴起眼鏡來，好像還
有一點學問的樣子，但其實內心是土匪狀，老兵跟你說，你不要弄這套來跟我玩，不要「盤仔
假流氓」、「憨面假福相」，不要搞這套，你不是流氓就不要耍流氓，這個東西要吵也要有道
理，你還不夠格啦！ |
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| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:34.903200+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:39.862902+08:00 |
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所以我今天要講的就是，我非常的嚴肅，未來一個月是臺灣最生死存亡的
關鍵，假如可以藍白合起來，白的就不講了，白的反正已經急速泡沫化，你們不想執政，我也
同意，你這樣搞，連大法官釋憲出來你們都不認帳，然後所有的部分你們都脫序了，不管怎麼
樣，你們越來越離譜，讓外人都覺得世間怎麼會有這樣的立法委員，講話比一般老百姓都還沒
有法學常識，你們竟然可以對大法官釋憲不認帳，也不想執政，要破壞民主體系，但是唯有臺
灣的民主繼續往前走，這是我們永不可能退卻的責任。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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所以今天在這個事情還沒釐清以前，我
還是要講一句話，所有這些脫序行為假如可以的話，立法院關門，我要講的重點是，這些沒有
處理、沒有講清楚，而且我先發文給你，我們法案的協商也不必談了、也談不下去，但是我很
清楚，傅崐萁打的主意是今天晚上開會到 12 點，但朝野協商還有所有委員會、院會都開到 5 點
半，不是你喊 12 點就開到 12 點、喊 10 點就開到 10 點，他不外乎想輾壓過去、全部過水，然
協 7
後就開始大表決，表決的時候，把民進黨架開，把韓院長抓進去架在裡面配合他們，我想院長
你應該不可能如此的就範吧？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
1 |
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我想這一點很重要。 |
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0 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
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| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:54.742009+08:00 |
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禮拜五是一個重要關鍵時刻，我不知道國民
黨昨天在排什麼，差不多 60 小時的接力排班，既然我們都講好，院會都要照程序來講的話，有
何需要排班呢？ |
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0.017 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:54.742009+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:55:59.701711+08:00 |
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不外乎想要強行通過，壓迫韓院長配合他們，反正條文很少，一下子就過去，
就代表他們的犯行全部遂行，這可得嗎？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:56:04.661413+08:00 |
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我是覺得非常困難，我現在講的是，到最後大家都按
程序來，我們全部發言完畢，表決輸了就算了，我們來釋憲或是緊急處分都可以，這是我們必
須遵守的原則，包括上次也一樣，上次國會擴權法案如此地粗暴圍起來然後舉手表決，請問立
法院還可以再這樣嗎？ |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:04.661413+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:56:09.621116+08:00 |
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這樣的演出經整個大法官釋憲出來，裡面全部違憲，國民黨得到什麼呢
？ |
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0 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:09.621116+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:14.580818+08:00 |
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難道這個教訓還不夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:14.580818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:19.540520+08:00 |
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禮拜五還有一個事情，我想傅總召與韓院長，包括今天沒有來的黃國昌，禮拜五本來證交法
要通過，黃國昌反對，後來黃國昌逼不得已再來簽了，上禮拜五說這個禮拜五要把它唸過去，
連這個也毀棄了，把它放到後面去了，放到後面的案子，到底我們立法院是要怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:19.540520+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:24.500222+08:00 |
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是聽傅
崐萁一個人的話嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:24.500222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:29.459924+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
傅崐萁是腦袋壞了，異想天開，如此幼稚，這個走得通嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:29.459924+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:34.419627+08:00 |
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所以我要講的
是，證交法當沖降稅沒有過的話，年底股市會爆炸，那個影響股民非常深遠，請不要兒戲，好
不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:34.419627+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:39.379329+08:00 |
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大家講清楚，一概照議事規則、照程序來，大家講話算話。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:39.379329+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:44.339031+08:00 |
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韓院長，我很感謝你說的一
句話。 |
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0 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:44.339031+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:56:49.298733+08:00 |
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禮拜一早上我跟你講大家照議事規則來，但傅總召突然耍詐。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:56:54.258436+08:00 |
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你說：總召，你要跟傅總
召講好，你們大家都是黨鞭，講話要算話。 |
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柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
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| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2024-12-18T16:56:59.218138+08:00 |
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你還跟我叮嚀這句話，代表你懂得這個道理。 |
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0.056 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2024-12-18T16:56:59.218138+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-18T16:57:04.177840+08:00 |
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但是
傅總召他懂得這個道理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
0.154 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:04.177840+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:09.137542+08:00 |
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他以為藍白合作、國會過半，整個臺灣都由他們掌控，而且也會轉
動全世界的樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:09.137542+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:14.097244+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].text |
我要講最後一句話，臺北沒有花蓮王，請你聽進去。 |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:14.097244+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:19.056947+08:00 |
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臺北開會是合議制，必
須遵守議事規則，臺北沒有花蓮王！ |
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0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:19.056947+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[153].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:24.016649+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].text |
你放心，我這關你過不了的！ |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:24.016649+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:28.976351+08:00 |
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以上，請你想一想。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:28.976351+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:33.936053+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
謝謝柯總召第一輪的發言。 |
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0.091 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:33.936053+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:38.895756+08:00 |
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請國民黨跟台灣民眾黨的委員做發言準備。 |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:38.895756+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:43.855458+08:00 |
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就柯總召剛剛垂詢的部分，我快速回答。 |
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0.188 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:43.855458+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:48.815160+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].text |
第一個，像開會時間、開會房間，我特別報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:48.815160+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-18T16:57:53.774862+08:00 |
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過
去我們的慣例都是紅樓 302跟群賢樓 802，但今天紅樓 302黃國昌委員借了，群賢樓 802是羅美
玲委員借了，所以我們不得已借了紅樓 101。 |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0.041 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:53.774862+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2024-12-18T16:57:58.734564+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
中間接到柯總召電話說，羅美玲的會 3 點半結束，
所以我們立刻再換到群賢樓 802，絕對沒有什麼陰謀詭計。 |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2024-12-18T16:57:58.734564+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:03.694267+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].text |
我們未來還是以紅樓 302 跟群賢樓
802為優先，這點沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
0.045 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:03.694267+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:08.653969+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].text |
這點我肯定…… |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:08.653969+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:13.613671+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
應該的，我們本來就是以紅樓 302跟群賢樓 802為優先。 |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0.053 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:13.613671+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:18.573373+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
我們都是可以談話的人，我們三十年前曾經同事過。 |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
0.095 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:18.573373+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:23.533076+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].text |
關於各黨團來函，凡是各黨團來的，我們院本部一定會排，這點毋庸置疑。 |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
0.069 |
| transcript.gazette[166].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[166].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:23.533076+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[166].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:28.492778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].text |
我快速唸一遍：
12 月 13 日國民黨 113 立協字 130 號函請協商，院長室；12 月 13 日（星期五）15 點 55 分發文
，並通知三個黨團協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[166].quality |
0.225 |
| transcript.gazette[167].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[167].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:28.492778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[167].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:33.452480+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].text |
12 月 13 日台灣民眾黨團立民眾字第 11300103 號函請協商，院長室；
12 月 13 日（星期五）下午 5 點 16 分更正發文，我們也通知三個黨團協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[167].quality |
0.089 |
| transcript.gazette[168].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[168].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:33.452480+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[168].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:38.412182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].text |
12 月 13 日國民黨
團再次來函，12月 16日早上 8點 2分再次更正發文，並通知三個黨團協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[168].quality |
0.161 |
| transcript.gazette[169].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[169].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:38.412182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[169].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:43.371884+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].text |
在這裡跟各黨團報告，請放心，也相信我們院本部，各位只要是正式黨團來函，我們一定會
協 8
排，絕對不會有大小眼，這一點跟大家報告一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[169].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[170].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[170].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:43.371884+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[170].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:48.331587+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].text |
至於所謂中立的態度，只要坐在主席臺上，我跟議事組所有的人員及秘書長，我們一定秉持
中立態度…… |
| transcript.gazette[170].quality |
0.049 |
| transcript.gazette[171].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[171].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:48.331587+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[171].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:53.291289+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].text |
開會時間呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[171].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[172].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[172].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:53.291289+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[172].end |
2024-12-18T16:58:58.250991+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].text |
不是某人說 12點就 12點，9點就 9點…… |
| transcript.gazette[172].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[173].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[173].start |
2024-12-18T16:58:58.250991+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[173].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:03.210693+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].text |
有黨團希望開會時間能夠延晚一點，但我們先根據慣例，為什麼黨團…… |
| transcript.gazette[173].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[174].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[174].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:03.210693+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[174].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:08.170396+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].text |
什麼延晚一點？ |
| transcript.gazette[174].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[175].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[175].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:08.170396+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[175].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:13.130098+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].text |
這件事情沒有解決……不是。 |
| transcript.gazette[175].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[176].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[176].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:13.130098+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[176].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:18.089800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].text |
我說我們時間還是一樣，而今天下午因為開會開得比較晚，所以是 4點到 6點（萬一
有重要事情要延長）…… |
| transcript.gazette[176].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[177].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[177].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:18.089800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[177].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:23.049502+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].text |
院長，我反對！ |
| transcript.gazette[177].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[178].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[178].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:23.049502+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[178].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:28.009204+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].text |
這不是早晚的問題，這是道理的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[178].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[179].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[179].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:28.009204+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[179].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:32.968907+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].text |
5點半就 5點半，你現在說 6點，之後就變成
10點…… |
| transcript.gazette[179].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[180].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[180].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:32.968907+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[180].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:37.928609+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].text |
你先讓我講啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[180].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[181].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[181].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:37.928609+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[181].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:42.888311+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].text |
你講了 30 分鐘，我都不講話，你還有意見可以隨時糾正，我快速把立場原
則講完，並跟大家報告，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[181].quality |
0.025 |
| transcript.gazette[182].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[182].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:42.888311+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[182].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:47.848013+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].text |
第一輪發言，請國民黨團跟台灣民眾黨團準備，發言完畢我
們到第二輪再說。 |
| transcript.gazette[182].quality |
0.129 |
| transcript.gazette[183].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[183].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:47.848013+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[183].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:52.807716+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].text |
請國民黨團第一輪發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[183].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[184].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[184].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:52.807716+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[184].end |
2024-12-18T16:59:57.767418+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].text |
謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[184].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[185].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[185].start |
2024-12-18T16:59:57.767418+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[185].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:02.727120+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].text |
我要特別謝謝韓院長，你真的很辛苦。 |
| transcript.gazette[185].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[186].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[186].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:02.727120+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[186].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:07.686822+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].text |
立法院真的是眾生相，什麼樣的說
法、說詞都有，所以也請您多包涵、多忍耐。 |
| transcript.gazette[186].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[187].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[187].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:07.686822+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[187].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:12.646524+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].text |
不過我還是要明確的先跟主席確認，剛剛柯總召
又把三十年前的故事再 run 了一次，雖然這一年來我們聽過很多次，這三十年前的故事也 run 了
很多次，所以一講講了半個小時，剛好 30 分鐘，我們大家都有算，我也希望未來這 30 分鐘內
，不要有人來插嘴，這是基本的民主素養。 |
| transcript.gazette[187].quality |
0.027 |
| transcript.gazette[188].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[188].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:12.646524+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[188].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:17.606227+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].text |
當然，沒有民主素養的，我們可以看清楚是哪一位
，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[188].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[189].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[189].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:17.606227+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[189].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:22.565929+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].text |
我要特別謝謝老柯，從三十年……你要去哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[189].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[190].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[190].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:22.565929+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[190].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:27.525631+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].text |
你要去哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[190].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[191].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[191].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:27.525631+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[191].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:32.485333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].text |
你剛剛不是說我沒有
到你於心不忍，不能講話嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[191].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[192].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[192].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:32.485333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[192].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:37.445036+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[192].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[193].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[193].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:37.445036+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[193].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:42.404738+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].text |
我跟你長相左右跑回來，你現在要出去了！ |
| transcript.gazette[193].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[194].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[194].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:42.404738+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[194].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:47.364440+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].text |
我講一下好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[194].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[195].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[195].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:47.364440+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[195].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:52.324142+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].text |
因為我腳的問題，所以我必須站起來，不能…… |
| transcript.gazette[195].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[196].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[196].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:52.324142+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[196].end |
2024-12-18T17:00:57.283844+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].text |
可以、可以、可以，好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[196].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[197].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[197].start |
2024-12-18T17:00:57.283844+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[197].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:02.243547+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].text |
我在外面都會聽到你講話。 |
| transcript.gazette[197].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[198].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[198].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:02.243547+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[198].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:07.203249+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[198].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[199].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[199].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:07.203249+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[199].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:12.162951+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].text |
我跟你講啦，你講話，這些人都在聽啦，我也在聽啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[199].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[200].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[200].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:12.162951+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[200].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:17.122653+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].text |
我不是講給他們聽的，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[200].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[201].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[201].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:17.122653+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[201].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:22.082356+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].text |
每一個人都要聽，全國都要聽。 |
| transcript.gazette[201].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[202].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[202].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:22.082356+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[202].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:27.042058+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].text |
我是講給你聽的。 |
| transcript.gazette[202].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[203].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[203].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:27.042058+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[203].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[203].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:32.001760+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[203].text |
我講一句公平話，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[203].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[204].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[204].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:32.001760+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[204].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:36.961462+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].text |
讓柯總召站著，他會在那邊聽，因為他的膝蓋這樣受不了。 |
| transcript.gazette[204].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[205].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[205].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:36.961462+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[205].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[205].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:41.921164+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[205].text |
因為剛剛我們正在會議中，柯總召一個殷殷呼喚，所以我們把所有的事放下來，因為
協 9
本來第一個議題我們的黨團幹部就可以處理的，到第二個議題我再來都可以，說要我趕快趕過
來，那我就趕過來了，說沒有我在他不講，所以你們大家看到了，現在我在發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[205].quality |
0.076 |
| transcript.gazette[206].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[206].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:41.921164+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[206].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[206].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:46.880867+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[206].text |
好，沒有關
係，這個叫做民主紳士的風度是這樣，我們大家也都看懂了，人民的眼睛是雪亮的，會清楚大
家在朝野協商的時候到底在講什麼事情，特別明確一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[206].quality |
0.172 |
| transcript.gazette[207].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[207].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:46.880867+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[207].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:51.840569+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].text |
當然，老柯也是中華民國國會的活字典，也真的是很不容易，三十多年前他只是一個在野黨
的陽春小立委，這三十年來的功力不得了啊，練就半甲子的功力，整個發揮的程度真的不一樣
，我從老柯開始抓牙蟲開始就認識他到現在，真的是很不容易啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[207].quality |
0.01 |
| transcript.gazette[208].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[208].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:51.840569+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[208].end |
2024-12-18T17:01:56.800271+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].text |
我覺得人的成長跟成功，我
們都要欽佩，也要給他祝福，畢竟在這個社會上要成功的人，都有一段非常艱辛的過程。 |
| transcript.gazette[208].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[209].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[209].start |
2024-12-18T17:01:56.800271+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[209].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[209].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:01.759973+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[209].text |
所以
剛剛柯總召雖然講一些不是很事實的事情，也很不堪的事情，他在那邊講，我還是都洗耳恭聽
，這就是國會一個基本的尊重。 |
| transcript.gazette[209].quality |
0.038 |
| transcript.gazette[210].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[210].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:01.759973+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[210].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:06.719676+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].text |
我想到今天我們不斷的在繞一些事情，我還是聽不太懂，東繞西繞南繞北繞，我還是聽不懂
到底哪一件事情是事實，所以我們在這裡要特別說清楚，剛好這麼多人來捧場，我們就一次講
清楚，到底是誰讓立法院的會開不成，貽笑國際大方？ |
| transcript.gazette[210].quality |
0.052 |
| transcript.gazette[211].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[211].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:06.719676+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[211].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[211].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:11.679378+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[211].text |
是誰帶著黨團在進攻主席臺，讓會議沒
有辦法開？ |
| transcript.gazette[211].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[212].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[212].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:11.679378+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[212].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[212].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:16.639080+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[212].text |
這個人民不是沒有看到，動輒會議要開就衝上去，不管院會、委員會都在那裡衝。 |
| transcript.gazette[212].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[213].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[213].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:16.639080+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[213].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:21.598782+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].text |
院長，真的一套制度要出來啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[213].quality |
0.083 |
| transcript.gazette[214].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[214].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:21.598782+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[214].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[214].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:26.558484+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[214].text |
我們都不曉得什麼時候能開會，中華民國國會要經過民進黨
的同意才能開會，這是中華民國的羞恥啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[214].quality |
0.048 |
| transcript.gazette[215].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[215].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:26.558484+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[215].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[215].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:31.518187+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[215].text |
像今天內政委員會早上要開會卻不能開，到剛剛他
們的大隊人馬移到這裡來，內政委員會剛剛才可以開始開會，終於可以開會了！ |
| transcript.gazette[215].quality |
0.019 |
| transcript.gazette[216].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[216].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:31.518187+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[216].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:36.477889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].text |
我還是要謝謝
院長，因為您在，觀眾多，所以內政委員會現在就寒風蕭瑟，沒什麼人在那裡，我們終於可以
順利來開會了。 |
| transcript.gazette[216].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[217].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[217].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:36.477889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[217].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[217].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:41.437591+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[217].text |
我在這裡還是要特別強調，每一件事情不是作賊喊捉賊，喊久了就可以積非成是、指鹿為馬
，到底誰在破壞議事規則？ |
| transcript.gazette[217].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[218].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[218].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:41.437591+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[218].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[218].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:46.397293+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[218].text |
到底誰在癱瘓議事？ |
| transcript.gazette[218].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[219].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[219].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:46.397293+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[219].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[219].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:51.356996+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[219].text |
到底誰不讓大家來開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[219].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[220].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[220].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:51.356996+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[220].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[220].end |
2024-12-18T17:02:56.316698+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[220].text |
我們一直講民主社會
，你在這裡要怎麼表達都是予以尊重，所有的溝通都尊重嘛，但是到最後，民主就是數人頭嘛
，都是代表民意嘛，但民進黨現在在這裡都是比拳頭啊，這就是很奇怪的事情，21 世紀的國會
還有在比拳頭的，不是在數人頭，每一個人都代表著他的民意嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[220].quality |
0.037 |
| transcript.gazette[221].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[221].start |
2024-12-18T17:02:56.316698+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[221].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[221].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:01.276400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[221].text |
所以我在這裡要特別強調，
我三十年前認識的老柯不是這樣子的，現在練就了一身的武功，真的是不得了，一天到晚顛倒
是非啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[221].quality |
0.077 |
| transcript.gazette[222].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[222].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:01.276400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[222].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[222].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:06.236102+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[222].text |
剛剛他講得真的很幽默，說禮拜天我打電話給他，還好現在 iPhone 記錄的有夠久，他
從禮拜五就一直找我，都是柯建銘、都是紅字，禮拜五、禮拜六一直找我，到禮拜天還在找我
，我在想都搞到這樣子了，那我就禮拜天回一個電話，這也是基於禮貌嘛，因為朝野黨鞭還是
要溝通嘛，所以我回了電話，當時我聽到老柯非常熱忱的講說…… |
| transcript.gazette[222].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[223].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[223].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:06.236102+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[223].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:11.195804+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].text |
傅委員，我跟你說一句話好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[223].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[224].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[224].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:11.195804+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[224].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[224].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:16.155507+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[224].text |
非常熱忱的說…… |
| transcript.gazette[224].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[225].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[225].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:16.155507+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[225].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:21.115209+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].text |
你讓我講一句話就好了！ |
| transcript.gazette[225].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[226].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[226].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:21.115209+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[226].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:26.074911+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].text |
非常熱忱的說…… |
| transcript.gazette[226].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[227].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[227].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:26.074911+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[227].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:31.034613+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].text |
我找你是我回電話，因為你畏罪潛逃了…… |
| transcript.gazette[227].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[228].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[228].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:31.034613+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[228].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[228].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:35.994316+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[228].text |
我 30分鐘，不好意思，你講完 30分鐘現在換我講 30分鐘！協 10 |
| transcript.gazette[228].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[229].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[229].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:35.994316+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[229].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[229].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:40.954018+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[229].text |
你在「黑白講」！ |
| transcript.gazette[229].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[230].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[230].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:40.954018+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[230].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[230].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:45.913720+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[230].text |
我要特別表達，柯總召在電話裡面真的很熱忱，說是不是我們可以明天 9點來開會，
我聽了以後很感動，我聽了很感動，結果…… |
| transcript.gazette[230].quality |
0.041 |
| transcript.gazette[231].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[231].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:45.913720+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[231].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[231].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:50.873422+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[231].text |
你們動員是幾點…… |
| transcript.gazette[231].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[232].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[232].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:50.873422+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[232].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[232].end |
2024-12-18T17:03:55.833124+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[232].text |
因為我們是禮拜五就已經發 6 點甲動，我想這個甲動大家都在、都很清楚，6 點鐘就
發甲動，不是說禮拜天跟他講完以後發甲動，國民黨團所有的人，連助理都知道，我們就是 6
點甲動。 |
| transcript.gazette[232].quality |
0.042 |
| transcript.gazette[233].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[233].start |
2024-12-18T17:03:55.833124+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[233].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:00.792827+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].text |
但是一個重點，禮拜天晚上接到這個電話以後，因為我很感動，突然民進黨轉性了說
立法院可以開會了，我非常感動啊，只差沒有涕零而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[233].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[234].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[234].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:00.792827+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[234].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:05.752529+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].text |
結果到了 9 點多，哇，臉書就開始 PO
了，「夙夜匪懈」啊，什麼東西都出來了，結果黨內就開始炸鍋了，說他們禮拜天晚上就已經
去排隊了、怎麼樣的。 |
| transcript.gazette[234].quality |
0.035 |
| transcript.gazette[235].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[235].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:05.752529+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[235].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:10.712231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].text |
然後那通電話我就主動問老柯，我問現在是什麼狀況，他說沒有、沒有
，那個只是擺拍，待會就沒有了。 |
| transcript.gazette[235].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[236].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[236].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:10.712231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[236].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[236].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:15.671933+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[236].text |
所以我也在國民黨的大群組發文叫大家不要去，雖然有幾位
年輕的委員衝到立法院來，但是我在大群組也有發文叫大家就不要過去了，禮拜一早上再來，
這個大群組都有留文字，都很清楚，至少在禮拜天雙方都還是有誠意，沒有誤判。 |
| transcript.gazette[236].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[237].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[237].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:15.671933+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[237].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:20.631636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].text |
禮拜一我們早上 6 點甲動，但因為過去民進黨熟能生巧，翻山越嶺，逢洞也可以鑽，到處都
可以，從哪裡進到會議室我們都不曉得，大概撬門鎖也是熟能生巧，還有凌晨不知道幾點鐘就
在裡面，我們到的時候才發現裡面的冷氣已經開了，整群的人在裡面，這不得了啊，這功力太
高了！ |
| transcript.gazette[237].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[238].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[238].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:20.631636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[238].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:25.591338+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].text |
國民黨過去以來一向溫良恭儉，所以我們 6 點鐘到要確認幾件事情：第一個，門可以打
開；第二個，確定麥克風不要又被搶了還是被折斷了，因為每一次麥克風不是被拔斷就是丟到
哪裡去，主席臺被弄得一塌糊塗，這個都是大家在電視上一天到晚看到的，民進黨是常業慣犯
，我們要確保禮拜一是可以開會的。 |
| transcript.gazette[238].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[239].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[239].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:25.591338+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[239].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:30.551040+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].text |
院長，檢查麥克風後我們才知道，還要等到有人來開箱之後才有麥克風，結果再發現更誇張
的一件事情，這是 2024 年中華民國國會啊，竟然說沒有筆電就不能開會，沒辦法連線，筆電裡
面還必須要有程式，我聽了更傻眼，這就不曉得哪裡內神通了外鬼，國民黨團沒有人知道要有
筆電才能開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[239].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[240].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[240].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:30.551040+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[240].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:35.510742+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].text |
哇，民進黨立委不得了，攔路打劫，把內政委員會的三臺筆電都搶走了，真的
是不能開會了，真的沒有辦法開會了！ |
| transcript.gazette[240].quality |
0.044 |
| transcript.gazette[241].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[241].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:35.510742+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[241].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:40.470444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].text |
我們還冒著風險從二樓跳下去，跑到旁邊、飛簷走壁到
旁邊去，跑到教育委員會去借一臺筆電，再從一樓拋到二樓，還好有接住，不然就摔壞了，才
把這個東西接起來，接起來後議事人員又告訴我們，到 9 點鐘才能連線，才能連線說會議開始
，所以在 9 點鐘連線之前，內政委員會的門也打開了，我們都有錄影，內政委員會的門是開著
，並沒有關著，歡迎大家進來開會，當時我也打了電話，8點…… |
| transcript.gazette[241].quality |
0.013 |
| transcript.gazette[242].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[242].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:40.470444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[242].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:45.430147+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].text |
講幹話啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[242].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[243].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[243].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:45.430147+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[243].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[243].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:50.389849+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[243].text |
這就是民主素養！ |
| transcript.gazette[243].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[244].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[244].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:50.389849+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[244].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[244].end |
2024-12-18T17:04:55.349551+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[244].text |
民主素養就是這樣…… |
| transcript.gazette[244].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[245].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[245].start |
2024-12-18T17:04:55.349551+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[245].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[245].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:00.309253+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[245].text |
我們委員在外面進不去的時候，說你門打開的……唬爛！8點 50分…… |
| transcript.gazette[245].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[246].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[246].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:00.309253+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[246].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[246].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:05.268956+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[246].text |
講那個唬爛話，我連進去也沒辦法進去啊！協 11 |
| transcript.gazette[246].quality |
0.056 |
| transcript.gazette[247].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[247].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:05.268956+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[247].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[247].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:10.228658+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[247].text |
8點 50分，都有紀錄、都有紀錄…… |
| transcript.gazette[247].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[248].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[248].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:10.228658+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[248].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[248].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:15.188360+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[248].text |
拿走筆電是在自救，所以我才跟你講說沒有關係，我來協調…… |
| transcript.gazette[248].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[249].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[249].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:15.188360+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[249].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[249].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:20.148062+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[249].text |
8點 50分，都有電話紀錄。安靜！ |
| transcript.gazette[249].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[250].speaker |
林委員思銘 |
| transcript.gazette[250].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:20.148062+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[250].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[250].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:25.107764+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[250].text |
不要插話。 |
| transcript.gazette[250].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[251].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[251].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:25.107764+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[251].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[251].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:30.067467+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[251].text |
什麼安靜？ |
| transcript.gazette[251].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[252].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[252].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:30.067467+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[252].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[252].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:35.027169+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[252].text |
你在黑白講嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[252].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[253].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[253].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:35.027169+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[253].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[253].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:39.986871+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[253].text |
什麼你的門打開，鐵門你都拉下來，什麼門打開著！ |
| transcript.gazette[253].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[254].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[254].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:39.986871+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[254].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[254].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:44.946573+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[254].text |
8點 50分打電話…… |
| transcript.gazette[254].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[255].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[255].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:44.946573+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[255].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[255].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:49.906276+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[255].text |
等一下民進黨團二輪發言的時候…… |
| transcript.gazette[255].quality |
0.071 |
| transcript.gazette[256].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[256].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:49.906276+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[256].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[256].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:54.865978+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[256].text |
8點 50分打給柯總召…… |
| transcript.gazette[256].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[257].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[257].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:54.865978+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[257].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[257].end |
2024-12-18T17:05:59.825680+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[257].text |
院長，這個在胡說八道！ |
| transcript.gazette[257].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[258].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[258].start |
2024-12-18T17:05:59.825680+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[258].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[258].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:04.785382+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[258].text |
我們以前占領主席臺是要讓大家來開會，你是不讓人家開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[258].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[259].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[259].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:04.785382+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[259].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[259].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:09.745084+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[259].text |
你連我人頭讓你數都沒辦法數啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[259].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[260].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[260].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:09.745084+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[260].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[260].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:14.704787+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[260].text |
8點 50分打給柯總召…… |
| transcript.gazette[260].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[261].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[261].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:14.704787+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[261].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[261].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:19.664489+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[261].text |
連簽到都沒辦法簽到。 |
| transcript.gazette[261].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[262].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[262].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:19.664489+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[262].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[262].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:24.624191+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[262].text |
請問一下，8 點 50 分我打給柯總召，說是不是這個時候大家進來開會，在走廊的…
… |
| transcript.gazette[262].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[263].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[263].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:24.624191+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[263].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[263].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:29.583893+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[263].text |
我跟你講說這個沒有關係，我來協調，結果你下一秒就把它開完了，全部的人把你紀
錄起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[263].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[264].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[264].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:29.583893+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[264].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[264].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:34.543596+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[264].text |
在走廊的衝突是不是給它結束，讓大家進來開會，柯總召說…… |
| transcript.gazette[264].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[265].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[265].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:34.543596+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[265].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[265].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:39.503298+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[265].text |
這樣就是你門鎖起來啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[265].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[266].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[266].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:39.503298+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[266].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[266].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:44.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[266].text |
這樣就是門鎖起來啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[266].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[267].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[267].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:44.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[267].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[267].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:45.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[267].text |
剛剛已經衝突了…… |
| transcript.gazette[267].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[268].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[268].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:45.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[268].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[268].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:48.097804+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[268].text |
不要緊，我說這樣就停下來…… |
| transcript.gazette[268].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[269].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[269].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:48.097804+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[269].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[269].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:50.831608+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[269].text |
剛剛已經衝突了…… |
| transcript.gazette[269].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[270].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[270].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:50.831608+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[270].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[270].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:53.565413+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[270].text |
我來協商、來開會，結果你下一秒就把它通過了。 |
| transcript.gazette[270].quality |
0.211 |
| transcript.gazette[271].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[271].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:53.565413+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[271].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[271].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:56.299217+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[271].text |
剛剛已經衝突了、已經衝突了，剛剛已經衝突了，所以現在…… |
| transcript.gazette[271].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[272].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[272].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:56.299217+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[272].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[272].end |
2024-12-18T17:06:59.033021+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[272].text |
講話照良心，不要自導自演…… |
| transcript.gazette[272].quality |
0.091 |
| transcript.gazette[273].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[273].start |
2024-12-18T17:06:59.033021+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[273].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[273].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:01.766825+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[273].text |
所以現在他也沒辦法管…… |
| transcript.gazette[273].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[274].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[274].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:01.766825+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[274].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[274].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:04.500629+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[274].text |
沒有人會相信你講的話啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[274].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[275].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[275].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:04.500629+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[275].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[275].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:07.234434+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[275].text |
他也沒法度插手。 |
| transcript.gazette[275].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[276].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[276].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:07.234434+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[276].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[276].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:09.968238+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[276].text |
我說你們拿了筆電走，讓我們不能開會…… |
| transcript.gazette[276].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[277].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[277].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:09.968238+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[277].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[277].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:12.702042+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[277].text |
我說協調大家來開會，結果你下一秒就把它通過了。 |
| transcript.gazette[277].quality |
0.095 |
| transcript.gazette[278].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[278].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:12.702042+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[278].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[278].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:15.435846+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[278].text |
我們 9點鐘是確定會議不會有問題，那你說你現在沒有辦法處理，你沒有辦法處理…
… |
| transcript.gazette[278].quality |
0.273 |
| transcript.gazette[279].speaker |
范委員雲 |
| transcript.gazette[279].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:15.435846+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[279].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[279].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:18.169650+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[279].text |
你們不要擋我們，我們就去開會…… |
| transcript.gazette[279].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[280].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[280].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:18.169650+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[280].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[280].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:20.903455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[280].text |
那擺明就是要…… |
| transcript.gazette[280].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[281].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[281].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:20.903455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[281].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[281].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:23.637259+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[281].text |
我們尊重發言委員，你們等一下可以二輪發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[281].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[282].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[282].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:23.637259+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[282].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[282].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:26.371063+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[282].text |
要現場衝突，是嗎？協 12 |
| transcript.gazette[282].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[283].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[283].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:26.371063+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[283].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[283].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:29.104867+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[283].text |
我說我來協商，照程序來。 |
| transcript.gazette[283].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[284].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[284].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:29.104867+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[284].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[284].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:31.838671+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[284].text |
要現場衝突是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[284].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[285].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[285].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:31.838671+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[285].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[285].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:34.572476+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[285].text |
你現在沒辦法通過了，所以開始耍詐。 |
| transcript.gazette[285].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[286].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[286].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:34.572476+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[286].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[286].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:37.306280+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[286].text |
所以，既然…… |
| transcript.gazette[286].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[287].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[287].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:37.306280+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[287].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[287].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:40.040084+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[287].text |
我人頭給你數嘛，我們比較少…… |
| transcript.gazette[287].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[288].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[288].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:40.040084+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[288].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[288].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:42.773888+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[288].text |
既然現場要衝突…… |
| transcript.gazette[288].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[289].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[289].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:42.773888+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[289].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[289].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:45.507692+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[289].text |
你不要做了國民黨黨鞭以後，完全…… |
| transcript.gazette[289].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[290].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[290].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:45.507692+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[290].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[290].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:48.241497+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[290].text |
讓他講完，你們再二輪講。 |
| transcript.gazette[290].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[291].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[291].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:48.241497+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[291].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[291].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:50.975301+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[291].text |
我說不要讓……不管是民進黨，不管是國民黨，大家都不要有誰受到身體的傷害…… |
| transcript.gazette[291].quality |
0.097 |
| transcript.gazette[292].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[292].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:50.975301+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[292].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[292].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:53.709105+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[292].text |
這是鬼扯嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[292].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[293].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[293].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:53.709105+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[293].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[293].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:56.442909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[293].text |
所以，既然是這樣，因為老柯都已經沒有辦法 promise說現在怎麼樣…… |
| transcript.gazette[293].quality |
0.29 |
| transcript.gazette[294].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[294].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:56.442909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[294].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[294].end |
2024-12-18T17:07:59.176713+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[294].text |
我告訴你說現在休息協商，我們來處理，好好的開會，你們馬上把它通過，不必再講
廢話，你這一套不通啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[294].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[295].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[295].start |
2024-12-18T17:07:59.176713+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[295].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[295].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:01.910517+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[295].text |
我們在上個禮拜五朝野協商的時候，我們請柯總召是不是能簽字，大家能夠坐在座位
上好好開會，柯總召說他不能簽這個字…… |
| transcript.gazette[295].quality |
0.176 |
| transcript.gazette[296].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[296].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:01.910517+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[296].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[296].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:04.644322+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[296].text |
你聽我講，你在上禮拜五的時候…… |
| transcript.gazette[296].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[297].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[297].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:04.644322+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[297].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[297].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:07.378126+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[297].text |
當時所有的黨鞭都在，他說他不能簽這個字…… |
| transcript.gazette[297].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[298].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[298].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:07.378126+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[298].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[298].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:10.111930+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[298].text |
你聽我講…… |
| transcript.gazette[298].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[299].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[299].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:10.111930+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[299].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[299].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:12.845734+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[299].text |
我們說朝野協商好好開會，能不能簽字…… |
| transcript.gazette[299].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[300].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[300].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:12.845734+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[300].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[300].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:15.579538+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[300].text |
執政黨的黨鞭都說他不能簽字了，我們也不知道為什麼不能簽字，好好開會都不行。 |
| transcript.gazette[300].quality |
0.059 |
| transcript.gazette[301].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[301].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:15.579538+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[301].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[301].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:18.313343+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[301].text |
我告訴你，我們以前朝野協商，國民黨簽字說絕對不會罷占主席臺，然後下一秒就占
領主席臺了，在搞這種遊戲，哪有朝野協商叫大家不能占領主席臺的？ |
| transcript.gazette[301].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[302].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[302].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:18.313343+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[302].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[302].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:21.047147+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[302].text |
你們占領主席臺的時候
，我們有站在那邊干擾嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[302].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[303].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[303].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:21.047147+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[303].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[303].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:23.780951+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[303].text |
都在鬼扯嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[303].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[304].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[304].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:23.780951+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[304].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[304].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:26.514755+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[304].text |
我想過去 20年在立法院，柯總召真的已經統治立法院 20年，呼風喚雨啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[304].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[305].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[305].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:26.514755+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[305].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[305].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:29.248559+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[305].text |
都不能有
誰可以牴觸柯總召。 |
| transcript.gazette[305].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[306].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[306].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:29.248559+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[306].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[306].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:31.982364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[306].text |
因為我都是照議事規則來。 |
| transcript.gazette[306].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[307].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[307].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:31.982364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[307].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[307].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:34.716168+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[307].text |
當然柯總召非常神聖，他的金科玉律連周萬來秘書長就議事規則都不能有任何的執著
，都不能有任何的討論…… |
| transcript.gazette[307].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[308].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[308].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:34.716168+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[308].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[308].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:37.449972+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[308].text |
周萬來是一個違法的秘書長，院長，你要考慮換人了。 |
| transcript.gazette[308].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[309].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[309].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:37.449972+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[309].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[309].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:40.183776+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[309].text |
我想我們今天再一次的討論，再一次的表達，立法院每一位委員都是受到人民的託付
來，不要講禮拜一…… |
| transcript.gazette[309].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[310].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[310].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:40.183776+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[310].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[310].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:42.917580+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[310].text |
這種話你也講得出來！ |
| transcript.gazette[310].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[311].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[311].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:42.917580+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[311].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[311].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:45.651385+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[311].text |
我們光看看今天早上的內政委員會就好了，再看看在多少天前的內政委員會是怎麼樣
，為什麼大家不能開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[311].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[312].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[312].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:45.651385+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[312].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[312].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:48.385189+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[312].text |
為什麼已經換了會議室可是議事人員還被禁錮在裡面不能出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[312].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[313].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[313].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:48.385189+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[313].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[313].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:51.118993+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[313].text |
這都
協 13
是柯總召的金科玉律。 |
| transcript.gazette[313].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[314].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[314].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:51.118993+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[314].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[314].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:53.852797+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[314].text |
今天晚上內政委員會……都會出去啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[314].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[315].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[315].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:53.852797+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[315].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[315].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:56.586601+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[315].text |
是在裝肖仔嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[315].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[316].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[316].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:56.586601+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[316].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[316].end |
2024-12-18T17:08:59.320406+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[316].text |
只要你不喜歡那個法案，立法院就不能開會，哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[316].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[317].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[317].start |
2024-12-18T17:08:59.320406+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[317].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[317].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:02.054210+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[317].text |
這真的是笑話。 |
| transcript.gazette[317].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[318].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[318].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:02.054210+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[318].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[318].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:04.788014+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[318].text |
不過我也了解，在
禮拜一朝野協商的時候，民進黨不管是文攻武嚇還是今天，說實在的，我們都不是被嚇大的，
我還是要再講一次啦！今天…… |
| transcript.gazette[318].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[319].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[319].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:04.788014+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[319].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[319].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:07.521818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[319].text |
你要殺人放火，是吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[319].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[320].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[320].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:07.521818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[320].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[320].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:10.255622+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[320].text |
今天黃國昌黃總召沒有來，大概是知道在一個朝野協商會議裡面，如果你不是提案的
委員或者是該委員會的召委，就是不可以在這裡的，從第 1 個會期第 1 次朝野協商就講到現在
，結果柯總召在這裡呼風喚雨 20年，竟然在朝野協商撂那麼大一群人來…… |
| transcript.gazette[320].quality |
0.04 |
| transcript.gazette[321].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[321].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:10.255622+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[321].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[321].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:12.989427+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[321].text |
因為選罷法和大家都有關係，選罷法跟每一個人都有關係，跟每一個委員都有關係啊
！ |
| transcript.gazette[321].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[322].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[322].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:12.989427+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[322].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[322].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:15.723231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[322].text |
你講這什麼鬼話！ |
| transcript.gazette[322].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[323].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[323].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:15.723231+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[323].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[323].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:18.457035+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[323].text |
院長召集朝野協商是比人多的喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[323].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[324].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[324].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:18.457035+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[324].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[324].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:21.190839+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[324].text |
院長，這種朝野協商還有它的意義嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[324].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[325].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[325].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:21.190839+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[325].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[325].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:23.924643+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[325].text |
你的意思是說我們的人全部都要出去嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[325].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[326].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[326].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:23.924643+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[326].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[326].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:26.658448+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[326].text |
你講的是什麼鬼話？ |
| transcript.gazette[326].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[327].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[327].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:26.658448+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[327].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[327].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:29.392252+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[327].text |
撂全部的人來，當時早就講好了遊戲規則，每每破壞遊戲規則的就是柯總召…… |
| transcript.gazette[327].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[328].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[328].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:29.392252+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[328].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[328].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:32.126056+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[328].text |
除了程序性問題是黨鞭來…… |
| transcript.gazette[328].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[329].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[329].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:32.126056+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[329].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[329].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:34.859860+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[329].text |
柯總召現在是立法院的神啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[329].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[330].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[330].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:34.859860+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[330].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[330].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:37.593664+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[330].text |
是立法院的神啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[330].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[331].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[331].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:37.593664+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[331].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[331].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:40.327469+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[331].text |
這個是法案欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[331].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[332].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[332].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:40.327469+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[332].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[332].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:43.061273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[332].text |
選罷法修正草案是法案欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[332].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[333].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[333].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:43.061273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[333].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[333].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:45.795077+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[333].text |
法案可以 3個人來啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[333].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[334].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[334].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:45.795077+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[334].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[334].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:48.528881+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[334].text |
你不是當王而已，你不是王而已，你是神啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[334].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[335].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[335].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:48.528881+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[335].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[335].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:51.262685+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[335].text |
是當了 20年的神啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[335].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[336].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[336].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:51.262685+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[336].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[336].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:53.996490+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[336].text |
法案跟每一個人都有關係的，這不是程序問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[336].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[337].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[337].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:53.996490+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[337].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[337].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:56.730294+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[337].text |
哪有朝野協商是院長主持卻比誰撂的人多啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[337].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[338].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[338].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:56.730294+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[338].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[338].end |
2024-12-18T17:09:59.464098+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[338].text |
現在是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[338].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[339].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[339].start |
2024-12-18T17:09:59.464098+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[339].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[339].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:02.197902+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[339].text |
這是法案欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[339].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[340].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[340].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:02.197902+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[340].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[340].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:04.931706+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[340].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[340].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[341].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[341].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:04.931706+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[341].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[341].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:07.665510+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[341].text |
每一個人都可以講話…… |
| transcript.gazette[341].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[342].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[342].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:07.665510+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[342].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[342].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:10.399315+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[342].text |
當然啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[342].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[343].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[343].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:10.399315+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[343].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[343].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:13.133119+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[343].text |
我在講話，每個人都要插嘴，是可以這樣子嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[343].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[344].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[344].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:13.133119+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[344].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[344].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:15.866923+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[344].text |
因為你就「黑白講」啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[344].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[345].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[345].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:15.866923+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[345].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[345].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:18.600727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[345].text |
這個是院長召集的朝野協商，不是在比人多的，然後在那邊插嘴啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[345].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[346].speaker |
莊委員瑞雄 |
| transcript.gazette[346].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:18.600727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[346].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[346].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:21.334531+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[346].text |
因為你就是在耍流氓，難道不能插嘴嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[346].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[347].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[347].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:21.334531+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[347].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[347].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:24.068336+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[347].text |
我再一次的強調，院長，本席在這裡…… |
| transcript.gazette[347].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[348].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[348].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:24.068336+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[348].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[348].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:26.802140+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[348].text |
院長，這是法案，不是程序性問題，法案還可以說 3個人來啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[348].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[349].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[349].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:26.802140+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[349].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[349].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:29.535944+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[349].text |
本席再一次的把立法院的遊戲規則跟各位報告一次…… |
| transcript.gazette[349].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[350].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[350].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:29.535944+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[350].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[350].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:32.269748+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[350].text |
你還有遊戲規則？ |
| transcript.gazette[350].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[351].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[351].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:32.269748+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[351].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[351].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:35.003552+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[351].text |
還你規定的！ |
| transcript.gazette[351].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[352].speaker |
陳委員培瑜 |
| transcript.gazette[352].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:35.003552+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[352].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[352].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:37.737357+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[352].text |
笑死人了！ |
| transcript.gazette[352].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[353].speaker |
郭委員昱晴 |
| transcript.gazette[353].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:37.737357+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[353].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[353].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:40.471161+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[353].text |
怎麼可以這樣呢？協 14 |
| transcript.gazette[353].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[354].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[354].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:40.471161+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[354].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[354].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:43.204965+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[354].text |
蘇嘉全院長於 2016 年 4 月 29 號上午 10 點在本院的議場宣布，這是民進黨選出來的
院長，他在議場宣布，為落實本院協商制度，今後議案交付協商，黨團務必召集，如果黨團沒
有召集，院會暫不處理，俟黨團召集協商後無法達成共識，始依立法院職權行使法第七十一條
之一規定處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[354].quality |
0.055 |
| transcript.gazette[355].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[355].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:43.204965+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[355].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[355].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:45.938769+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[355].text |
沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[355].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[356].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[356].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:45.938769+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[356].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[356].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:48.672573+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[356].text |
交院會處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[356].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[357].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[357].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:48.672573+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[357].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[357].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:51.406378+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[357].text |
都要照程序來。 |
| transcript.gazette[357].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[358].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[358].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:51.406378+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[358].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[358].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:54.140182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[358].text |
所以不管是憲法訴訟法…… |
| transcript.gazette[358].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[359].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[359].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:54.140182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[359].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[359].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:56.873986+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[359].text |
沒有什麼憲法訴訟法…… |
| transcript.gazette[359].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[360].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[360].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:56.873986+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[360].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[360].end |
2024-12-18T17:10:59.607790+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[360].text |
還是財劃法，在出委員會之後，都已經由委員會召委召集各黨團朝野協商，都已經記
錄在案…… |
| transcript.gazette[360].quality |
0.027 |
| transcript.gazette[361].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[361].start |
2024-12-18T17:10:59.607790+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[361].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[361].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:02.341594+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[361].text |
還有院長協商呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[361].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[362].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[362].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:02.341594+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[362].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[362].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:05.075399+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[362].text |
對不起…… |
| transcript.gazette[362].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[363].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[363].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:05.075399+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[363].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[363].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:07.809203+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[363].text |
什麼對不起？ |
| transcript.gazette[363].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[364].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[364].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:07.809203+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[364].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[364].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:10.543007+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[364].text |
你那是不懂法律…… |
| transcript.gazette[364].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[365].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[365].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:10.543007+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[365].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[365].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:13.276811+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[365].text |
2015年民進黨的院長已經宣布了…… |
| transcript.gazette[365].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[366].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[366].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:13.276811+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[366].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[366].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:16.010615+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[366].text |
宣布什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[366].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[367].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[367].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:16.010615+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[367].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[367].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:18.744420+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[367].text |
院會的決議…… |
| transcript.gazette[367].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[368].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[368].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:18.744420+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[368].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[368].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:21.478224+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[368].text |
還要經過委員會……院長協商啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[368].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[369].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[369].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:21.478224+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[369].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[369].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:24.212028+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[369].text |
我們再一次的表達，等到柯建銘當院長的時候再來宣布新的案例。 |
| transcript.gazette[369].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[370].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[370].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:24.212028+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[370].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[370].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:26.945832+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[370].text |
本席寧為總召啦，你放心。 |
| transcript.gazette[370].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[371].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[371].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:26.945832+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[371].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[371].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:29.679636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[371].text |
我們在這裡再一次的表達，柯總召，當你當柯院長的時候，你要打破蘇嘉全蘇院長的
規定，本席並不反對。 |
| transcript.gazette[371].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[372].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[372].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:29.679636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[372].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[372].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:32.413441+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[372].text |
我跟你講，我寧為總召啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[372].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[373].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[373].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:32.413441+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[373].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[373].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:35.147245+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[373].text |
本席在這裡要特別講清楚，朝野協商院長召集，我們是一個尊重，就是尊重，也是對
民進黨的尊重。 |
| transcript.gazette[373].quality |
0.205 |
| transcript.gazette[374].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[374].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:35.147245+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[374].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[374].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:37.881049+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[374].text |
立法院職權行使法第六十八條請看一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[374].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[375].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[375].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:37.881049+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[375].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[375].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:40.614853+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[375].text |
因為在出委員會之後，委員會召委已經召集過朝野協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[375].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[376].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[376].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:40.614853+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[376].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[376].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:43.348657+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[376].text |
你不懂法律、不識字嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[376].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[377].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[377].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:43.348657+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[377].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[377].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:46.082462+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[377].text |
就可以依職權行使法送院會來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[377].quality |
0.267 |
| transcript.gazette[378].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[378].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:46.082462+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[378].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[378].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:48.816266+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[378].text |
職權行使法第六十八條，我們有……院長要協商啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[378].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[379].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[379].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:48.816266+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[379].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[379].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:51.550070+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[379].text |
今天所有的法案都是已經經過協商…… |
| transcript.gazette[379].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[380].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[380].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:51.550070+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[380].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[380].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:54.283874+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[380].text |
院長可以不協商，跳過去了？ |
| transcript.gazette[380].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[381].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[381].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:54.283874+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[381].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[381].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:57.017678+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[381].text |
沒有達成共識，未來就可以交院會處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[381].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[382].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[382].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:57.017678+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[382].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[382].end |
2024-12-18T17:11:59.751483+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[382].text |
講完了沒？協 15另外…… |
| transcript.gazette[382].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[383].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[383].start |
2024-12-18T17:11:59.751483+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[383].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[383].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:02.485287+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[383].text |
還有另外？ |
| transcript.gazette[383].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[384].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[384].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:02.485287+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[384].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[384].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:05.219091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[384].text |
另外，我要謝謝韓院長…… |
| transcript.gazette[384].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[385].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[385].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:05.219091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[385].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[385].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:07.952895+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[385].text |
還可以搞這齣，不可能，韓院長，你敢這樣嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[385].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[386].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[386].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:07.952895+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[386].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[386].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:10.686699+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[386].text |
我們在 11月 15號就提出了請求…… |
| transcript.gazette[386].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[387].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[387].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:10.686699+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[387].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[387].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:13.420503+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[387].text |
立法院職權行使法第六十八條請看一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[387].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[388].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[388].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:13.420503+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[388].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[388].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:16.154308+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[388].text |
11 月 15 號提出了請求，請院長協商憲法訴訟法，11 月 25 號再次請求院長協商憲法
訴訟法…… |
| transcript.gazette[388].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[389].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[389].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:16.154308+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[389].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[389].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:18.888112+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[389].text |
院長還沒召開啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[389].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[390].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[390].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:18.888112+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[390].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[390].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:21.621916+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[390].text |
然後在 13 號再一次的請求院長協商憲法訴訟法，所以不要誣賴韓院長、不要誣賴韓
院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[390].quality |
0.057 |
| transcript.gazette[391].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[391].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:21.621916+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[391].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[391].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:24.355720+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[391].text |
院長都還沒有協商、財劃法也都還沒協商啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[391].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[392].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[392].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:24.355720+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[392].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[392].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:27.089524+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[392].text |
不要誣賴韓院長！ |
| transcript.gazette[392].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[393].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[393].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:27.089524+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[393].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[393].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:29.823329+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[393].text |
我看韓院長會不會聽你的話，我等一下看韓院長怎麼講。 |
| transcript.gazette[393].quality |
0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[394].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[394].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:29.823329+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[394].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[394].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:32.557133+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[394].text |
韓院長是依照國民黨團 13 號所再一次發文的請協商順序、法案順序，依照請求的時
間別來排序，這也是非常合理的…… |
| transcript.gazette[394].quality |
0.022 |
| transcript.gazette[395].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[395].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:32.557133+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[395].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[395].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:35.290937+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[395].text |
講美國話！ |
| transcript.gazette[395].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[396].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[396].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:35.290937+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[396].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[396].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:38.024741+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[396].text |
11月 15號就敦請院長召集憲法訴訟法的協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[396].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[397].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[397].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:38.024741+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[397].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[397].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:40.758545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[397].text |
請看立法院職權行使法第六十八條…… |
| transcript.gazette[397].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[398].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[398].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:40.758545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[398].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[398].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:43.492350+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[398].text |
所以本黨在 12月 13號針對排序的問題再次的發文，請依照過去的時間序來排序。 |
| transcript.gazette[398].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[399].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[399].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:43.492350+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[399].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[399].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:46.226154+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[399].text |
傅崐萁，你可以這樣幹嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[399].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[400].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[400].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:46.226154+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[400].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[400].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:48.959958+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[400].text |
走得過去嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[400].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[401].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[401].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:48.959958+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[401].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[401].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:51.693762+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[401].text |
立法院是你在制定規則啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[401].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[402].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[402].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:51.693762+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[402].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[402].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:54.427566+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[402].text |
法律也不管嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[402].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[403].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[403].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:54.427566+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[403].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[403].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:57.161371+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[403].text |
所以……當然嘛，柯院長獨霸一方嘛、獨霸一方！ |
| transcript.gazette[403].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[404].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[404].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:57.161371+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[404].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[404].end |
2024-12-18T17:12:59.895175+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[404].text |
我沒有獨霸一方，我全部照議事規則來。 |
| transcript.gazette[404].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[405].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[405].start |
2024-12-18T17:12:59.895175+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[405].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[405].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:02.628979+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[405].text |
你現在……沒關係啦，柯神現在當臺灣王了，沒有關係啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[405].quality |
0.095 |
| transcript.gazette[406].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[406].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:02.628979+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[406].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[406].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:05.362783+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[406].text |
不是新竹王、臺北王，現
在是臺灣王…… |
| transcript.gazette[406].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[407].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[407].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:05.362783+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[407].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[407].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:08.096587+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[407].text |
花蓮王請回花蓮去，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[407].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[408].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[408].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:08.096587+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[408].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[408].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:10.830392+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[408].text |
國會全部就是要聽柯建銘的指示，所以本席在這裡還是……今天對院長的尊重…… |
| transcript.gazette[408].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[409].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[409].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:10.830392+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[409].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[409].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:13.564196+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[409].text |
韓院長，我要講一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[409].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[410].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[410].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:13.564196+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[410].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[410].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:16.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[410].text |
以及對柯總召的尊重，以及對民進黨的尊重，雖然出委員會之後，已經完成了法定的
程序，委員會已經召集各政黨協商…… |
| transcript.gazette[410].quality |
0.062 |
| transcript.gazette[411].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[411].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:16.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[411].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[411].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:17.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[411].text |
最好……院長還沒處理朝野協商，你什麼法定程序？ |
| transcript.gazette[411].quality |
0.421 |
| transcript.gazette[412].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[412].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:17.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[412].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[412].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:18.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[412].text |
之後請你去找蘇嘉全院長理論，不要在這裡跟本席理論。 |
| transcript.gazette[412].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[413].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[413].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:18.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[413].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[413].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:19.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[413].text |
一樣的，蘇嘉全院長來還是一樣，有第六十八條的規範。 |
| transcript.gazette[413].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[414].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[414].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:19.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[414].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[414].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:20.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[414].text |
所以我們再一次的強調……
協 16 |
| transcript.gazette[414].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[415].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[415].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:20.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[415].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[415].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:21.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[415].text |
蘇嘉全院長從來不會講這種話，你放心。 |
| transcript.gazette[415].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[416].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[416].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:21.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[416].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[416].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:22.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[416].text |
如果各政黨不是三長出席，國民黨沒有必要參加今天這樣的一個協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[416].quality |
0.172 |
| transcript.gazette[417].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[417].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:22.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[417].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[417].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:23.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[417].text |
好啊，那大家走著瞧！ |
| transcript.gazette[417].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[418].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[418].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:23.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[418].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[418].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:24.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[418].text |
那就是沒有實質協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[418].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[419].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[419].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:24.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[419].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[419].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:25.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[419].text |
怎麼，要去跟習近平報告了、要去跟習近平報告了，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[419].quality |
0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[420].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[420].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:25.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[420].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[420].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:26.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[420].text |
鴨霸啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[420].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[421].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[421].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:26.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[421].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[421].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:27.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[421].text |
傅崐萁就是禮拜五要讓它通過…… |
| transcript.gazette[421].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[422].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[422].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:27.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[422].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[422].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:28.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[422].text |
院長，他瞧不起你啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[422].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[423].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[423].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:28.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[423].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[423].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:29.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[423].text |
大家不要講話，你不要講話，你不要講話！ |
| transcript.gazette[423].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[424].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[424].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:29.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[424].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[424].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:30.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[424].text |
他不想理你啊！院長…… |
| transcript.gazette[424].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[425].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[425].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:30.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[425].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[425].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:31.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[425].text |
今天朝野協商氣氛非常不好，但是我還是要問一下台灣民眾黨還有一輪發言的機會，他要不
要講話？ |
| transcript.gazette[425].quality |
0.098 |
| transcript.gazette[426].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[426].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:31.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[426].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[426].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:32.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[426].text |
我們程序一定要站穩腳，他講得多、講得少或他不講話，是他的權利，但他有這個權
利。 |
| transcript.gazette[426].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[427].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[427].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:32.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[427].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[427].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:33.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[427].text |
麥玉珍委員，如果你要一輪發言，請發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[427].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[428].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[428].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:33.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[428].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[428].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:34.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[428].text |
好，謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[428].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[429].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[429].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:34.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[429].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[429].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:35.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[429].text |
我有幾個問題想要問，我們今天是協商，但我沒有聽到協商的內容，
也沒有看到要協商的內容，我不知道要來幹嘛啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[429].quality |
0.085 |
| transcript.gazette[430].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[430].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:35.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[430].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[430].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:36.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[430].text |
這是第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[430].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[431].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[431].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:36.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[431].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[431].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:37.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[431].text |
我也不知道！「惦惦」！ |
| transcript.gazette[431].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[432].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[432].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:37.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[432].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[432].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:38.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[432].text |
聽我們講完，禮貌！ |
| transcript.gazette[432].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[433].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[433].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:38.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[433].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[433].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:39.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[433].text |
不知道在協商什麼就趕快回去啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[433].quality |
0.071 |
| transcript.gazette[434].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[434].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:39.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[434].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[434].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:40.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[434].text |
第二個，我們內政委員從禮拜一就是一整天沒有開會，我們今天早上就來簽名要開會
，但是很多都不是內政委員霸占那邊，讓我們沒辦法去開會，這樣子的浪費時間、霸占著那邊
，誰要負責？ |
| transcript.gazette[434].quality |
0.053 |
| transcript.gazette[435].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[435].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:40.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[435].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[435].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:41.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[435].text |
所有的官員來了，他們要不要領薪水？ |
| transcript.gazette[435].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[436].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[436].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:41.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[436].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[436].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:42.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[436].text |
所有人來了要不要領薪水？ |
| transcript.gazette[436].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[437].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[437].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:42.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[437].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[437].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:43.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[437].text |
這些政府的預
算、人民的預算，誰來賠？ |
| transcript.gazette[437].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[438].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[438].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:43.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[438].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[438].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:44.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[438].text |
因果顛倒……你不要亂講話，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[438].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[439].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[439].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:44.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[439].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[439].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:45.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[439].text |
這個是議事規則嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[439].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[440].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[440].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:45.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[440].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[440].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:46.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[440].text |
我不懂，我才要問一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[440].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[441].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[441].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:46.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[441].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[441].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:47.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[441].text |
因為內政委員要開會，所有在那邊的一
半以上不是內政委員…… |
| transcript.gazette[441].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[442].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[442].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:47.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[442].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[442].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:48.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[442].text |
麥玉珍啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[442].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[443].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[443].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:48.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[443].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[443].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:49.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[443].text |
不懂就不要亂講。 |
| transcript.gazette[443].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[444].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[444].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:49.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[444].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[444].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:50.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[444].text |
大家在那邊等，也沒開會…… |
| transcript.gazette[444].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[445].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[445].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:50.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[445].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[445].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:51.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[445].text |
你禮拜一有沒有去開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[445].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[446].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[446].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:51.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[446].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[446].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:52.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[446].text |
我們要來…… |
| transcript.gazette[446].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[447].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[447].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:52.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[447].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[447].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:53.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[447].text |
你禮拜一有沒有去開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[447].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[448].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[448].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:53.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[448].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[448].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:54.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[448].text |
我請假。 |
| transcript.gazette[448].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[449].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[449].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:54.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[449].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[449].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:55.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[449].text |
你禮拜一請假…… |
| transcript.gazette[449].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[450].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[450].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:55.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[450].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[450].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:56.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[450].text |
我不能請假嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[450].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[451].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[451].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:56.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[451].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[451].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:57.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[451].text |
你禮拜一為什麼不去開會？協 17 |
| transcript.gazette[451].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[452].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[452].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:57.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[452].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[452].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:58.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[452].text |
我請假！ |
| transcript.gazette[452].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[453].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[453].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:58.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[453].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[453].end |
2024-12-18T17:13:59.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[453].text |
我明明請假啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[453].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[454].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[454].start |
2024-12-18T17:13:59.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[454].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[454].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:00.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[454].text |
你同意國民黨一黨…… |
| transcript.gazette[454].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[455].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[455].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:00.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[455].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[455].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:01.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[455].text |
你沒有禮貌欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[455].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[456].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[456].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:01.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[456].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[456].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:02.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[456].text |
……通過選罷法…… |
| transcript.gazette[456].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[457].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[457].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:02.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[457].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[457].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:03.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[457].text |
所以說他們都…… |
| transcript.gazette[457].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[458].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[458].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:03.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[458].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[458].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:04.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[458].text |
院長，那麼多人去欺負一個人在講話，這不是算霸凌嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[458].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[459].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[459].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:04.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[459].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[459].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:05.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[459].text |
人家在講話，你們在吵什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[459].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[460].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[460].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:05.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[460].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[460].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:06.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[460].text |
這個是立委的禮貌嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[460].quality |
0.111 |
| transcript.gazette[461].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[461].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:06.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[461].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[461].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:07.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[461].text |
一點禮貌都沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[461].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[462].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[462].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:07.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[462].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[462].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:08.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[462].text |
這不是霸凌，這是事實糾正你而已，不要亂講話。 |
| transcript.gazette[462].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[463].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[463].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:08.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[463].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[463].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:09.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[463].text |
都不懂得尊重別人。 |
| transcript.gazette[463].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[464].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[464].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:09.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[464].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[464].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:10.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[464].text |
我講話，我有我的意思，我有我的規則，我覺得我看到的是這樣
！ |
| transcript.gazette[464].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[465].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[465].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:10.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[465].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[465].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:11.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[465].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[465].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[466].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[466].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:11.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[466].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[466].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:12.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[466].text |
所以今天來了，我們早上在那邊，我們也等著開會，我們也進去，我和高金也進去
要等開會，我不能在內政聽你們演講一整天吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[466].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[467].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[467].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:12.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[467].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[467].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:13.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[467].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[467].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[468].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[468].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:13.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[468].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[468].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:14.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[468].text |
開會的時間沒有開會，我們在那邊聽
你們演講嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[468].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[469].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[469].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:14.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[469].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[469].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:15.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[469].text |
你們喜歡在電視上、在媒體上被拍，你們就在那邊，我們把舞臺讓給你，我們內
政委員讓給你們演，你們演一整天，演到現在，內政開會了，我們要回去開會了！ |
| transcript.gazette[469].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[470].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[470].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:15.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[470].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[470].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:16.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[470].text |
所以我們的
議事規則誰來訂？ |
| transcript.gazette[470].quality |
0.083 |
| transcript.gazette[471].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[471].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:16.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[471].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[471].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:17.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[471].text |
我們不知道你們怎麼現在在協商，講的跟協商內容不一樣，所以這個是協商
嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[471].quality |
0.031 |
| transcript.gazette[472].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[472].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:17.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[472].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[472].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:18.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[472].text |
麥玉珍，你先懂議事規則再講話，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[472].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[473].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[473].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:18.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[473].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[473].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:19.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[473].text |
我們的立法院裡面是要來溝通，還是來吵架的？ |
| transcript.gazette[473].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[474].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[474].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:19.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[474].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[474].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:20.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[474].text |
都沒有溝通，變成你吵你的、我吵我
的，我講我的道理、你講你的道理，我們在臺灣的國會都是這樣嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[474].quality |
0.025 |
| transcript.gazette[475].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[475].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:20.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[475].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[475].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:21.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[475].text |
所以我是要請教你們，那
麼多經歷都是這樣子嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[475].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[476].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[476].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:21.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[476].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[476].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:22.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[476].text |
我們覺得如果是要討論事情，我們好好去討論事情，我們的老大、召
委你們要去協商好再來討論，沒有的話就是變成來這邊吵來吵去、亂來亂去，在我們的國會這
樣開會就是正常的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[476].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[477].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[477].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:22.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[477].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[477].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:23.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[477].text |
所以我真的覺得我們沒辦法再繼續開會了。 |
| transcript.gazette[477].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[478].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[478].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:23.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[478].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[478].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:24.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[478].text |
內政委員會現在在開會了，
也請我們內政委員會所有委員回去開會，我也要回去開會了…… |
| transcript.gazette[478].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[479].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[479].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:24.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[479].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[479].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:25.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[479].text |
那你禮拜一怎麼不來開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[479].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[480].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[480].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:25.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[480].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[480].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:26.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[480].text |
我禮拜一沒有開會，我不能請假嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[480].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[481].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[481].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:26.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[481].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[481].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:27.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[481].text |
我已經請假了，對不對？所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[481].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[482].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[482].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:27.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[482].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[482].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:28.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[482].text |
禮拜一如果你在場，你也進去開會，作何感想？ |
| transcript.gazette[482].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[483].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[483].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:28.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[483].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[483].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:29.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[483].text |
今天不能開會，你問召委為什麼不來主持啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[483].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[484].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[484].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:29.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[484].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[484].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:30.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[484].text |
我是召委嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[484].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[485].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[485].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:30.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[485].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[485].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:31.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[485].text |
徐欣瑩不來主持啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[485].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[486].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[486].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:31.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[486].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[486].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:32.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[486].text |
你要去問他。 |
| transcript.gazette[486].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[487].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[487].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:32.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[487].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[487].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:33.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[487].text |
徐欣瑩不來主持…… |
| transcript.gazette[487].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[488].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[488].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:33.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[488].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[488].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:34.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[488].text |
你不是內政委員，你去問她。 |
| transcript.gazette[488].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[489].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[489].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:34.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[489].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[489].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:35.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[489].text |
麥委員，看我的眼睛，你講話講完了嗎？協 18 |
| transcript.gazette[489].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[490].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[490].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:35.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[490].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[490].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:36.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[490].text |
講完了。 |
| transcript.gazette[490].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[491].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[491].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:36.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[491].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[491].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:37.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[491].text |
我講一句話就好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[491].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[492].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[492].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:37.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[492].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[492].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:38.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[492].text |
我要講一句話，歸我講一句話了。 |
| transcript.gazette[492].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[493].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[493].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:38.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[493].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[493].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:39.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[493].text |
麥委員，你剛剛說今天這個開會……麥玉珍委員，你看一
下我，今天開會這個氣氛，我們看到柯總召跟傅總召，前半場他們互相像瓊瑤的愛情小說，我
認識你 30 年，後半場像金庸武俠小說，所以我在想今天的氣氛是朝野協商有史以來最差的一次
。 |
| transcript.gazette[493].quality |
0.083 |
| transcript.gazette[494].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[494].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:39.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[494].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[494].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:40.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[494].text |
對，愛情小說，我講完了，因為時間到，我要去開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[494].quality |
0.105 |
| transcript.gazette[495].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[495].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:40.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[495].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[495].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:41.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[495].text |
還有更差的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[495].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[496].speaker |
吳委員秉叡 |
| transcript.gazette[496].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:41.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[496].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[496].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:42.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[496].text |
再不處理只有越來越差啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[496].quality |
0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[497].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[497].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:42.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[497].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[497].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:43.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[497].text |
這是很棒的一個、這是很重要的一個溝通的平臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[497].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[498].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[498].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:43.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[498].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[498].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:44.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[498].text |
黃國昌沒有來，黃國昌來了…… |
| transcript.gazette[498].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[499].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[499].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:44.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[499].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[499].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:45.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[499].text |
請各位黨團幹部要重視，也要保護這個朝野溝通的平臺，因為這非常重要，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[499].quality |
0.273 |
| transcript.gazette[500].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[500].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:34.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[500].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[500].end |
2024-12-18T17:14:41.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[500].text |
我們只
能休息一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[500].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[501].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[501].start |
2024-12-18T17:14:41.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[501].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[501].end |
2024-12-18T17:16:32.641667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[501].text |
院長，你答應我們要處理禮拜一的爭議啊！對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[501].quality |
0.053 |
| transcript.gazette[502].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[502].start |
2024-12-18T17:16:32.641667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[502].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[502].end |
2024-12-18T17:18:23.353333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[502].text |
禮拜一…… |
| transcript.gazette[502].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[503].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[503].start |
2024-12-18T17:18:23.353333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[503].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[503].end |
2024-12-18T17:20:14.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[503].text |
你不要講話…… |
| transcript.gazette[503].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[504].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[504].start |
2024-12-18T17:20:14.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[504].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[504].end |
2024-12-18T17:22:04.776667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[504].text |
我們禮拜一的爭議一直存在啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[504].quality |
0.154 |
| transcript.gazette[505].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[505].start |
2024-12-18T17:22:04.776667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[505].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[505].end |
2024-12-18T17:23:55.488333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[505].text |
院長，我只有講一句話而已，我講一句話，我希望你做一個中立院長，我們就看你！ |
| transcript.gazette[505].quality |
0.188 |
| transcript.gazette[506].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[506].start |
2024-12-18T17:23:55.488333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[506].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[506].end |
2024-12-18T17:25:46.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[506].text |
我都快搬到中壢去，我真的很中立。 |
| transcript.gazette[506].quality |
0.214 |
| transcript.gazette[507].speaker |
柯委員建銘 |
| transcript.gazette[507].start |
2024-12-18T17:25:46.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[507].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[507].end |
2024-12-18T17:29:20.598000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[507].text |
未來就看你！ |
| transcript.gazette[507].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[508].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[508].start |
2024-12-18T17:30:19.866000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[508].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[508].end |
2024-12-18T17:30:26.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[508].text |
謝謝大家來參加會議，謝謝！ |
| transcript.gazette[508].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[509].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[509].start |
2024-12-18T17:30:34.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[509].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[509].end |
2024-12-18T17:30:34.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[509].text |
散會（17時 15分） |
| transcript.gazette[509].quality |
0.5 |