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| 會議名稱 |
立法院朝野黨團協商（事由：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案」等案。二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院、考試院函請審議「中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案」等案。三、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「運動部組織法草案」等案。四、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「運動部全民運動署組織法草案」等案。五、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案」等案。六、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案」等案。七、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「國家運動科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案」等案。八、司法及法制、教育及文化兩委員會併案審查行政院函請審議「教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案」等案。(詳如附件)） |
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好,協商時間已屆,那麼現在開始協商會議本日協商行政院組織法、中央行政機關基準法、運動部組織法還有運動部全民運動署組織法、國家運動產業發展中心設置條例國家運動訓練中心設置條例、國家運動科學中心設置條例 |
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教育部組織法等因應運動部成立之相關法案共計八個主題稍後按協商通知排序依序進行協商。協商前先介紹道場委員及機關代表首先是國民黨的鄭天才委員歡迎您民眾黨的吳春成委員歡迎您 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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處長李松茂處長國教署張永傑主任秘書 |
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以及黃崇斌先生組織總署由我們李培元檢認視察。」歡迎您。那麼司法院有調部辦事法官趙雲英法官歡迎您。內政部有何俊達專門委員、移民署人事室嚴主任。好,抱歉喔,後面兩個字可能不是怕念錯。那麼外交部有陳佑芬專門委員歡迎您。財政部有副組長吳 |
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吳松柏、吳巧梅、國參署劉專門委員、負稅署劉旭峰先生、法務部調部辦事楊石宇先生、 |
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檢察官、經濟部、我們翁古松組長、交通部、觀光署、方振亮主任秘書、行政司、中企榮、 |
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劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政劑政 |
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馬勒夫勒路夫杜達公共工程委員會李賢長副處長以及國家通訊委員會的蔡姓怡專門委員。目前有簽到的人員我都逐一介紹,如果名字有跟您唸錯請包涵。 |
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那接下來呢,我們就開始主案進行協商。協商時請參閱協商條文對照表、審查報告及淨附二讀提案關係文書。與會委員如有修正動議或是機關有建議內容,請提書面,應發現場進行討論。好,那麼首先進行主題一,司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議許委員 |
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委員徐富奎等十七人、委員吳佩義等二十一人、委員林一錦等十九人、委員鄭天才等十六人、委員陳冠廷等十七人及委員范雲等十六人分別擬去。行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案等期案。審查會前逾十一月十四日審查完順。審查結果第三條照行政院提案通過並決議不須交由黨團協商違經 |
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十二月十三日第十一屆第二會期第十三次院會決議交付黨團協商。」現在開始相請各黨團代表表示意見。那是否在場有吳委員跟鄭委員,哪一位要先發言?各方請送到我們委員的面前。行政院組織法 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政院組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案、考試院審查行政院函請審議 |
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所以前提是要我的建議是先審這個中央行政機關組織基準法好那麼這是政委員的意見那不然我們請問那個吳委員是否同意 |
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主題二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院、考試院函請審議《中央行政機關組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案》等案 |
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組織基準法第二十九條及第三十三條條文修正草案、委員吳佩儀等二十人、委員林益靜等十九人、委員鄭天才等十六人分別擬據中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案及委員陳冠廷等十六人擬據中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條條文修正草案等六案。委員審查會前於十一月十四日審查完畢。審查結果除第三十三條保留外,其餘均由審查結果通過。 |
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並決議須交由黨團協商．令十一月二十二日第十次院會將委員盧明哲等十七人、委員鄭天才等十九人及委員萬美玲等十八人提案禁覆二讀．十一月二十九日及第十一次院會再將委員林倩琦等二十一人、委員張雅玲等十六人及委員張志倫等十六人提案禁覆二讀與相關提案併案協商。以上共計十案併案協商為求效率。是不是我們先就 |
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保留條文進行討論。」如各位協商代表對於審查會通過條文有意見,那麼代表保留條文處理完畢後再接續進行處理。請問各位有無意見?那如果沒有的話,我們請各黨團代表先表示意見,先就保留條文的部分來進行討論。那也待會請機關代表就保留條文進行說明。哪位委員要先發言? |
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二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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目前條文是以七十個數為限,我們提出要以七十五個提升為七十五個,才能夠應用現在這個運動部會增加兩個數的需要。」 |
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部沒有增加兩個數,增加一個數。」運動部增加一個數?對對對對對,但是就滿額了?沒有沒有,運動部,運動部,然後總數沒有增加。總數。來來,那政委員請。請。那個,因為現在叫體育署,體育署就是三級機關,所以它就體育署提升為 |
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部函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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所以才會提要去增加,所以是不是要請這個行政部門來說明一下。」好,謝謝。那麼剛剛民眾黨代表五委員,他們針對第三十三條保留的條文,主要是在第四項的部分。他寫第一項及第三項屬局之總數,除地方分支機關外, |
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以七十五個為限,現行條文是七十個。」那至於鄭天才委員的提案也是在三十三條第四項他說第一項及第三項屬局之總數除地方分支機關外以七十一個為限七十五跟七十一那其他的委員提案呢也多數是以七十一那原條文是七十那是不是我們請行政機關做說明請 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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我聽到的是蘇貴仁市長是說目前現行維持七十個違憲那未來如果有新成立的署那麼也是在七十個當中調整那我的理解啦我來演繹一下就是要增加一個就要減掉一個啦那既有的三級機關的署如果要維持七十個那新增一個舊的就要整併一個那目前之所以維持運動部之後維持七十個是因為原來的體育署減 |
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部新增運動部新增運動部新增運動部新增運動部新增 |
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那我想這個這樣好不好兩位黨團代表那如果本案因為各版的條文的規定都不太一樣那是我我們就本條保留好謝謝那我們本條保留好那接下來我們進行主題一齁那麼既然我們主題二已經保留那我們主題一的部分回過頭來先處理那麼 |
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行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組織法第二十九條及法制委員會審查行政院組 |
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就司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議委員徐富奎等十七人委員吳佩儀等二十一人委員林怡瑾等十九人委員鄭天才等十六人委員陳冠廷等十七人及委員范雲等十六人分免擬拒行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案等七案。那麼當時我們的協商是本案都支持沒有不同意見那請問今天的在場各位委員黨團代表是否同意這是運動部的部分 |
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我們桌上有行政院組織法就是原來十四個部會增為十五個部會那增加一個運動部好請吳委員臺灣民眾黨沒有意見謝謝那麼請問國民黨政委員沒有意見好那我們照審查會審查結果通過我們協商決議就是照審查會結果通過當然當然當然我們這個一個一個來啊 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案。 |
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行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議行政院函請審議 |
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行政院函請審議國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案等十三案、行政院函請審議國家運動科學中心設置條例部份條文修正草案等十三案以及行政院函請審議教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案 |
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等十九條條文修正草案．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商． |
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以及委員業員之等十九人及委員徐曉新等十八人有關於國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案提案以及委員徐曉新等十八人有關於國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案提案以及委員業員之等二十人及委員徐曉新等十八人有關於國家運動科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案提案以及委員科政等十六人、委員徐曉新等十七人及台灣民眾黨 |
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黨團有關於教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案提案近乎二讀並與相關提案併案協商。」以及在十二月十三日第十三日議院會再將委員張雅琳等十六人所提國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案、國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案、國家運動科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案提案,致委員會抽出近乎二讀與相關提案併案協商。 |
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以上個案均於今日併案協商。」那麼請各黨團代表表示意見。我們就從主題三到主題八,一共有六個法律修正案。那麼請表示意見。來,政委員,請。要跟這個,趙偉。 |
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部組織法及後面的這些組織法規本席提案,一開始如果你回憶一下,就是我有針對舉例子,舉例子比如說這個運動部組織法的第八條本席的條文 |
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修正條文增加前項既用人員、既原住民身份者不得低於百分之二十。然後針對這個需要公務人員內用資格的,我也特別增加 |
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這個前項委員、檢任、見任、委任、各官等委員及原住民身份者均不得低於百分之十本法所定禁用原住民比例現有顏額未達比例者是非原住民公務員出街後再行禁用補足。 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函 |
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原住民的運動人才非常非常的多,這個比例很高,所以這個無論是不需要任用資格的跟需要任用資格的都應該能夠有這樣的一個比例,至於比例是多少才是適當,這個是我上次也說大家可以討論,所以這個部分是不是也能夠請行政部門能夠同意,以上。 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案。 |
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3392.699 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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委員會審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 等案 |
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3467.929 |
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政委員提出我們原住民有很多優秀的運動員,我想這個大家都非常清楚,但是提出以公務人員各官等10%、聘用人員20%的比例來禁用原住民族一節,那麼我們 |
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如果按照現在最新的在113年10月的這個原住民族人口總數佔我國人口總數是2.6%那北北基是1.9%那過去在規範的一些架構上我們看到就是如果說要把這個 |
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部及全民署工作地點,非屬於原住民族區域,以及教育行政及經濟行政等現在的考試類科,近三年原住民特考都有入局不足的情況,如果這樣的規定可能將來 |
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3510.6 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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3546.871 |
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所以這部分其實已經提供了原住民工作權益之保障。另外,組織法的體例裡面,如交通部的觀光署,目前也只規範為原住民族地區之機關預算原額含約用人員、技工工友等具有原住民身份者不得低於六分之一。 |
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3561.172 |
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那所以這個未來運動部成立之後我們是希望說能夠透過資源的整合保障選手、教練等工作權益那麼來行訴運動全民化、全民化那將來會帶來更多的運動 |
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工作的機會,比如說我們將來會成立很多的社區運動俱樂部那麼對於極限、海域、山林等多元運動的發展我們相信原住民運動選手將來都會非常有機會而且這個站在運動部的立場也會進行實質而有力的支持所以我們是期待說避免各族群在遠用比照以及橫頻的考慮就是說不要影響運動部及全民組織法通過的期程 |
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3593.251 |
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3595.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
行政院組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 等案。」等案。 |
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禁用,那麼我們會特別來積極提報原住民特考的職缺,那麼在具有相同資格條件及專業下,會優先來禁用原住民。」那麼也懇請說不要在組織法裡面就來訂定禁用原住民組的比例,就是說它以現行的法,這個我們對原住民的一個工作,譬如說特考這部分,事實上現在都還有不足而禁用的問題,那我早上也特別跟 |
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3637.685 |
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組織法第三條條文修正草案．事由．立法院朝野黨團協商．事由．立法院組織法第三條條文修正草案．事由．立法院組織法第三條條 |
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3688.96 |
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所有今天要通過的要審查的今天所有審查的這些機關未來這個設立的地方都不會在原住民族第七這是第一個第二個剛才次長特別提到原住民的人口只有百分之二點多沒有錯但是我們在 |
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3717.101 |
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運動人才的體育人才的比例就非常非常的高我們就以這一次的這個棒球世界棒球賽二分之一是原住民二分之一是原住民所以這個部分這個是應該要列入列入這樣的一個比例 |
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提議書回棄再查看當初我們在質詢審打的時候,部長是同意的。 |
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部長同意納入所以你們再回去看這個議事錄所以這個部分請教育部我有講過比例可以討論 |
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到底是要多少的比例可以討論,而不是全盤的否決。」以上。謝謝齁,那麼在行政機關代表回應之前齁,那也跟鄭天才委員做個意見交換啦,因為當時這個案的審查是我主持啦,那因為當場的情況,是因為鄭委員很懇切,大家都期待能夠早日通過,所以你也不堅持,所以該案 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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法案照行政院提案通過後,他們會在實際的執行上去盡量貼近您的主張。」我提到的是法是按照行政院提案至於做法上會盡量的按照您的目標去邁進那因為如果當天部長是說願意接受你的提案那我們的委員審查就不會按照行政院提案通過了是因為部長是也是 |
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遵照行政院的提案,但是他說未來在禁用人員的時候,會往你的期待去貼近。」好,那這個我們還是請張亮次長,他今天是代表部長來發言,請表示意見。好,我再來補充一下,謝謝。我們是可以說用附帶,像這個有沒有用決議,附帶決議的方式,就是說我們會盡力來輔佐啦,就是說有很多優秀的運動 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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產業發展協商協商協商協商協商協商協商協商協商協商 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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運動選手及運動的了解,我們知道有很多 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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部及人員軍用的需要,積極提報原住民特稿的職缺。」 |
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運動部監督三個行政法人,持續專財、專用、視財、視所的原則,也在具有相同資格、條件及專業下,優先禁用具有運動專業的原住民族人才,以落實多元族群和諧共享 |
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和諧共榮的體育運動,重要台灣的願景。」這個我們來努力啦,好不好? |
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委員好 那麼鄭委員剛剛有提出是不是說我們在修法立法之後我們的因為立法理由也跟次長說明因為立法理由當天本來鄭委員就提出在委員會的時候表達但是由於行政院的提案裡面的立法說明好像是沒有辦法再附上去的啦所以是不是有其他方法來處理看看鄭委員有什麼高見第八條的附帶決議看能不能來寫 |
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組織法第三條條文修正草案審查行政院函請審議 |
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後面的署包括中心都一次的講就是不想拖延大家的時間所以顯然這個不論是教育部或是相關的機關顯然並沒有很重視所以如果你們應該去盤點 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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部組織法第三條條文修正草案 運動部組織法第三條條文修正草案 |
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貴應運動發展多元化金融人才,得益聘用人員任用條例之規定聘用運動相關領域專業人員。」在行政院的提案說明當中,我們可以看到我們的會議資料的討論討97頁。 |
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以及第九條本部各職稱之官等職等級原額另以編制表定之。」那行政院的提案說明就很簡短就在我們討論的第106頁的內容 |
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委員會審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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提案內容我們以一個附帶決的方式來刻以行政機關在未來依法執行的時候要能夠體察我們立法者所期待的一個運用的方式。當然就是在條文的架構下 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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做附帶決議的研擬 |
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運動部未來將四業務及人員禁用需要,積極提報原住民特考職缺。」另外一個就是說我們運動部監督的三個行政法人也一樣會持續秉專才、專用、事才、事所的原則在具有相同資格條件及專業下優先禁用具運動專業之原住民組 |
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有優先禁用原則及保障條款,將來遇到類似狀況,我們一定會優先運用原住民族人才,以落實多元族群和諧共融與體育運動創造台灣的願景。」 |
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行政委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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第二段我講說在具有相同資格的條件跟專業下我們的三個法人也一樣會優先聘用原住民因為現在原住民運動比較強比如說你在奧運或者說在棒球你說十二強其實那些選手他們大概第一個他們一定會先去支棒球隊他們薪水比較高 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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部審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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好謝謝次長的說明那也跟兩位黨團代表的委員說明那因為我們今天處理方式我要再說明處理方式因為如果說我們沒有辦法在今天就這個這主題三到主題八大家在委員會非常積極共同促成通過的法案在今天的黨團協商完成的話那麼 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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共識及結果 。」那我們都知道在未來的院會的表決當中如果是黨團協商能夠同意不需再經過院長、朝野協商因為走院長、朝野協商可能是沒有結論那沒有結論進入院會的表決就會受到其他議案的影響那如果今天我們能夠做成黨團協商不需交由院長進行朝野協商那包括待會如果同意的附帶決議我們就會排入院會當中 |
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不及相關組織的成立。」 |
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行政院組織法第三十九條條文修正草案》等案。 |
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那我們就不帶院長另外召集朝野協商,就可以直接排入院會處理。那如果這個附帶決議不能代表委員不能達成共識,那我這邊就只能交付給院長做朝野協商。藉時能否在院會裡面順利處理,我沒有把握,那懇請的跟兩位委員、黨團代表做說明,也因應期盼,這是全民的共同希望。」好,那請政委員表示意見。 |
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因為這個行政院組織法跟中央行政機關組織基準法都要協商嘛都要協商所以這個不差只剩下原住民的條款嘛只剩下原住民條款也是講一次而已啊到時候韓院長主持了所以也是講一次所以這個部分最重要的還是教育部要拿出誠意 |
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這已經是奧運的選手,不會來這些地方了。我們很多的運動人才是從國小、國中、大學這樣一步一步上來。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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部及相關的組織修法 其實是 |
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百分之九十九大家都是一致願意支持的。」那關心的政委員所關心的那第三十三條是屬於行政院組織基準法那個部分那個的確一定要走院長朝野協商的流程但是我們其他的部分如果今天能夠達成黨團協商的結論那未來在院會進行處理的時候 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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這個院長在主持的中央行政機關組織基準法還有行政院組織法的時候把其他下面的運動部以下 |
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有本席提到的原住民條款的部分拿出來就不要再浪費那麼多的紙張了也不要浪費大家那麼多的時間就等於是其實就是兩個議題了交給函院長主持的就是兩個議題一個是中央行政機關組織基準法嘛第二個就是原住民條款就這樣兩個議題這樣的話就時間上 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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那個不能談完之後,中央行政機關組織基準法談完之後,你才可以去通過這些,不能這個先通過啊。這個不能啊,一定要先通過那個中央行政機關組織基準法跟行政院組織法以下的才可以。所以也不會,這個也不能,跟一般的法案不太一樣啊。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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交、懲請院長進行朝野協商,那個是行政院組織法第二十九條,第三條。那麼另外呢,我們有關於中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條,那個部分,就會涉及到三級機關。 |
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但是那個條文最後怎麼處理其實跟我們主題三到主題八有沒有設立全民運動署及其他相關的行政法人其實是沒有關聯的啦你是七十一個、七十五個 |
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其實呢,就算按照既有的現行條文的七十個這些今天討論從主席三到主席八的這些所有的組織的相關法令規章都是沒有衝突的我想還是要釐清其實今天大家要理解我們行政院組織法第三條已經獲得一個 |
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協商得到結論,就不用再交付院長進行朝野協商,未來在院會處理會非常的壞。」那麼接下來主題三到主題六,我們不去碰觸到主題二的中央行政機關組織法、組織基準法的那兩條,一樣按照現在的規劃,因為這裡面所有的都是從 |
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全民運動署已降相關的行政法人等法規的成立。」那這個也還在既有的中央行政機關組織基準法原條文的七十個額度內是涵蓋的,是沒有問題的。但是如果我們黨團有覺得要趁此機會同時將行政機關、中央行政機關組織基準法的第二十九條、第三十九條同時把它增列七十一或七十五 |
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那個令案跟現在的主題是並行不備的,那個地方就算修到七十一或七十五都不會影響到目前我們今天討論的全民運動署及相關行政法人組織的通過,因為這些都是在原 |
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七十個三級機關的額度內並沒有影響。」容我在這樣的說明。那麼這樣的說明,政委員還是覺得希望將這些不受到中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條、第三十九條,現在我們剛剛可能要交付給院長進行朝野協商的部分,要跟他併加一起,那我想也是尊重委員的意見。但是我要說的,那個是不受影響的。 |
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如果不跟那個案子並在一起朝野協商由院長來進行那麼未來在院會處理的時候就不會跟現在所有帶院長協商的這些爭議性的法案綁在一起做處理了我已經是再三的說明因為運動部為什麼張教司長也不放棄想要來爭取一個共識因為接下來走的路徑會不同我們本年度會期的定期會 |
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是到十二月底。」那如果今天的協商可以獲知決意、同意、結論,這些 |
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全面運動署已詳這相關的行政法人的組織這六個主題都可以達成朝野協商的結論我們不用再黨團協商結論不用再送交院長就不會跟現在那些爭議的法案綁在一起了我真的是跟政委員再次說明真的跟三十九條、二十九條、中央行政機關組織基準法無色啦現在我要處理,來,那個請政署長最後的 |
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政委員我這邊真的是懇切的請求委員的支持因為其實我們的附帶決議其實可以達到委員的需求的理想那為什麼要這樣講的原因是我在體育界這將近二十年的參與 |
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我們一直在講說我們往運動員要尋找工作、職壓輔導,那事實上非常非常的困難。為什麼?因為運動員大部分他們真正想做的是能夠成為職業選手,想要成為基層的教練。我們為什麼在這一次大力推動全民運動?就是希望整個改造我們台灣的運動環境。我們是透過全民運動組整個社區化之後,我們希望創造更多的教練的就業機會。 |
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才能真正照顧到所有,當然不只是原住民吧,所有的體育科系出來的運動人才、多元人才都有就業機會。所以其實不是說不支持原住民去做體育的行政人員,而是這部分你當定下去,我們真的 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案．事由．司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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我們最後齁,來,鄭委員。最後齁,這個要跟趙薇講齁,絕對是需要行政院組織法的前提是中央行政機關組織基準法要確定,然後行政院組織法也確定,下面的才可以,才可以審啊,在院會啊,就沒有錯吧,齁。 |
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運動部運動部運動部 |
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部組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 提報行政院特考,運動部組織法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案 提報行政院特考,運動 |
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部及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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先讀那個那個兩個沒有通過你運動部組織法也不能我們不能通過也不能在宴會先通過啊這是事實啊好來這樣子啊鄭委員我分成三個部分啊首先您對於這個剛剛 |
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部所提出來的附帶決議,我覺得您說得很有道理,也就是說它其實的句號它分成第一段跟第二段,它沒有切開。運動部及所屬行政機關,未來視業務及人員金融需要,積極提報原住民特考職缺,這是指運動部及所屬的行政機關。這個是第一條公務員,就是涵蓋你的一個第二個部分。 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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主題三到主題八我們不能達成協商共識就沒有結論。」那當然就是提請我們院長做朝野協商到時候會跟其他的朝野的爭議的法案併入到協商後在院會另行排案處理但是但是第三個部分就回應你說的 |
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那如果我們這個附帶決議做成之後,那你所關心的中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條、第三十九條,雖然我還再強調一次,目前的現行法的七十個署是跟現在的主題三到六的包括全民運動署及所屬行政機關完全不衝突,完全可以容納進去。 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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因為排案要表決還是由程序委員會排案那如果當屆時您認為中央行政機關組織基準法沒有經過草野協商沒有達成共識那麼這些不能夠一併交付院會進行二三度的處理那就在那個時候的排案把它排在一起那排案的順序可能就變成說先處理您所關心的中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及三十九條經過草野協商院長組織後草野有共識 |
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部及其所屬相關的也過了,您所關心的增加三級機關為七十一個或七十五個的也過了,那個是可以的,但是我們今天可以先做這個處理。」 |
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以後在排案的時候再滿足您希望的那個要求。」那我跟您提啦齁其實目前我們程序委員會的排案順序是由國民黨黨團在主導啦齁這怎麼排案的都是國民黨黨在主導所以這個案子如果我們今天朝野我們的黨團協商有共識 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行 |
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附帶決議的部分第二我們今天先有黨團協商的結論讓他可以未來在院會進行二三讀的排案處理然後您所要求的部分那就交給院長朝野協商的時候再並中央行政機關組織基準法的協商結論在排案的二三讀處理後連同這些再去排案處理今天我們做成的決定不會決定他怎麼排案處理啦 |
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正委員,這個行政院組織法跟中央行政機關組織...這真的是?行政院組織法第三條我們已經有協商結論了您講的是中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條、第三十九條啦這是兩個不一樣的,一個剛剛已經簽協商結論了要多一個不才可以 |
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及所屬機關各年度提報原住民特考的職缺數不少於該年度提報各項考試職缺總數百分之十。 |
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司法及法制委員會審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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部及各所屬機關各年度提報10個原住民特考,一定要一個是在運動部裏面。你只有談行政那個公務人員的部分了,那不需要公務人員資格的部分呢?就所有的那個是我們原住民特考的職缺數裏面那個是需要公務人員資格的那個我謝謝你寫這樣但是對於我們更有更能夠進入的就是那個 |
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部組織法第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案第八條文修正草案 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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我們就保留宋朝野協商了啦我想這樣好了啦我想今天大家已經這麼努力了大家的努力都看在眼裡了也都錄影了也都轉播了那我想鄭委員你所做的努力我們也肯定但是你這樣子堅持下去我是覺得我們並沒有辦法在本會期結束之前促成這個大家共同期望的事情好那個朝野協商就是這樣大家互相的體諒那你一直堅持我們附帶就也提出了 |
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中央行政機關組織基準法第三十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案 通過之後,當然就要院會處理,那我們現在處理的所有的這些,都跟那二、三十三條無關,因為二十九條運動部要增加一個二級機關,十四變成十五,我們已經,大家已經達成共識了。」 |
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三十九條的施行日期,大家有沒有不同意見?那您很在意的,您跟五委員、民眾黨黨所在意的三十三條,七十個三級機關要不要改成幾個?其實今天大家都同意那個可以,大家再去朝野協商。所以只有這樣的一個朝野協商需要去達成的三級機關的額數,我們因此反過來綁住了運動部要成立,行政院二級機關要增設為十五個,大家也沒有不同意見? |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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行政院組織法第三條條文修正草案：立法院朝野黨團協商．事由：一、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審議 |
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行政院組織法通過下面一個案就是運動部組織法這個我都清楚啊這個我很清楚不會所以我才會說怎麼樣去簡化節省這個時間交給院長協商的時候不要很多資料第一個就中央行政機關組織基準法就是民眾黨的那個兩條條文一起討論然後就是原住民條款一張紙一起討論 |
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三、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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實質上的內容,我們今天要有結論的部分都不會跟那個七十五個三級機關有關,但是表決的時候由於民眾黨的提案的設計,它兩個條文放在一起,所以表決的時候一定是兩個條文一起表決,但是這兩個條文事實上 |
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除了確認到七十五個之外,另外一個條文是大家都有共識的。」所以呢,在表決也會只是出現在七十五條的部分。那至於到時候是採用哪一個版本,朝野協商的時候,其實民眾黨的提案的三期行政機關的七十五個,是否要視為一個案的同時處理,在朝野協商院長的層級是一併可以處理的。 |
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所以我只是說現在我們只希望說如果已經有共識有結論的部分不要再去勞煩院長去處理朝野協商了那如果您堅持說連今天的附帶決的內容都要院長朝野協商我們今天就不用討論了嘛我們今天所說的附帶決議可以形成今天的黨團協商的結論那麼院長未來在組織朝野協商的就是三級機關的額數那那是因為額數一定 |
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未來在議案表決的時候民眾黨的提案是要一起表決還是藉此民眾黨可以同意用什麼方式去處理去彰顯他們七十五個三級行政機關的部分我都尊重但是今天那兩個附帶決議的目的是希望不用再提交給院長去進行朝野協商您剛剛還是希望那兩個附帶決議到院長的朝野協商沒有嘛那沒有就今天做成結論院長朝野協商就不會處理了就不用處理了啦好不好 |
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議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會議員會 |
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三十三條的三級機關的額數處理完的時候才有辦法在院會進行二、三組的處理嗎?這是事實那個是事實講的是事實但我要講的是實質上我們今天這些的內容都跟三、七十五個三級行政機關無關啦我只是表明這一點好不好那這兩個戶待決定如果您可以同意的話我們今天就可以有協商結論就省去了院長再去進行相關這些主題三到主題八的朝野協商啦可以嗎? |
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二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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我沒有特別意見,您覺得可以,我沒有意見。您堅持這樣的意見,這個附帶決定當然沒辦法成案啊,那沒有成案我們就不能有會議結論啊,當然就這樣子啊,對不對?您代表國民黨嘛,那您覺得這個附帶決定您不能接受,我們就宣布沒有結論嘛,那我就來宣讀了,好不好? |
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二、司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
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我們聯席審查把這個黨團協商跑完因為今天那您認為那個附帶決議您要交給院長朝野協商沒有沒有沒有他們如果改好的話根本就不行啊這個你們修好了沒有是不是要再給我們政委員看一下因為我覺得我有一點失焦啊到底您所主張的條文你哪裡不滿意如果教育部可以給政委員看可以我們就把附帶決議嘛 |
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函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請 |
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兩位黨團代表的委員,看起來我們最後峰迴路轉可以有結論,我們附帶一句大家看過沒問題我就宣讀,宣讀完我們拍個照,好不好?歷史時刻,全民因應其判,民眾黨團、國民黨團,我們共同促成,好不好?打字好的部分再請政委員過目。 |
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部組織法及所屬行政機關行政法人草案附帶決議,運動部及其所屬行政機關未來將是業務及人員禁用需要積極提報原住民特考值缺,且運動部及其所屬行政機關各年度提報原住民特考值缺數不得少於該年度提報各項考試值缺總數百分之十。 |
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部監督之三個行政法人亦持續秉持專財專用、私財私所之原則,在具相同資格條件及專業下,將優先禁用具運動專業之原住民族至運動部及其所屬行政機關之聘用人員部分,釋出聘用人員總數百分之五禁用原住民族,以落實多元族群和諧共融及體育運動壯大台灣之願景。 |
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主題二 |
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好,司法及法制委員會併案審查行政院、考試院函請審議中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九等六案以及二、委員魯明哲等十七人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條條文修正草案案委員鄭天才等十九人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第三十三條條文修正草案案委員萬美玲等十八人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第三十三條條文修正草案案 |
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委員林倩琦等二十一人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及三十九條條文修正草案案。委員張雅琳等十六人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第二十九條及第三十九條條文修正草案案。委員張志倫等十六人擬拒中央行政機關組織基準法第三十三條及三十九條條文修正草案。協商結論第三十三條保留送院會處理。其餘均照委員會審查結果通過。然後 |
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主題三到主題八的協商結論運動部組織法草案等三十二案一、新增附帶決議一項如復見二、其餘軍造審查會審查結果通過二、運動部全民運動署組織法草案等十九案軍造委員審查會審查結果通過三、國家運動產業發展中心設置條例草案等十四案軍造審查會審查結果通過 |
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四、國家運動訓練中心設置條例修正草案等十五案均照審查會審查結果通過。五、國家運動中科學中心設置條例部分條文修正草案等十六案均照審查會審查結果通過。六、教育部組織法第二條、第五條及第九條條文修正草案等二十二案均照審查會審查結果通過。 |
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好,那麼稍待我們議事人員都已經完成了嗎?都簽名了,那今天我們拍個照好不好,今天的協商終於峰迴路轉,苦盡甘來大家努力不懈之下,終於將運動部及其所屬行政機關及行政法人都通過了,那麼本席就簽名了那個政委員這張你拿著,這個你的 |
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感謝今天所有出列席的行政機關代表大家真的是大功告成非常感謝非常感謝大家也謝謝今天各黨團的代表委員的出席也提供保貴意見讓我們可以促成這樁美事那今天的會議到此我們就散會謝謝 |
| IVOD_ID |
16386 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16386 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2024121799 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-18T15:30:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-18T17:31:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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