| IVOD_ID |
163833 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163833 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-20,15,35,19,22,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[5] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T09:21:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T09:28:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0559c433b622d41c12b1f00580874b15565fa544d5cbab131472786d5621fa9625ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:21:41 - 09:28:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案（114年度至116年度）」【詢答及處理，預算提案於10月8日上午10時截止收件】【10月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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谢谢 谢谢主席是不是请这个国防部顾部长还有这个财政部的庄部长还有主记长 陈主记长好 请主记长 顾部长还有庄部长委员好 |
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你好首先我要特別請莊部長跟主席長因為很多民眾在關心到底我們普發一萬元是不是這個月底以前會花放部長 |
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跟委員報告那根據特別條例就有規定要特別預算公布後一個月內就可以開始發放所以我們要看特別預算最後經過大院審議三讀通過總統公布後我們一定會在一個月內以內就開始做發放的作業好 謝謝那另外我再請教那個顧部長 |
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我們現在我上次在院會裡面有請教過你我們到底跟美國買的武器有多少錢已經給了到現在為止武器沒來而且錢還在那裡你告訴大家 |
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跟委員報告我想現在相關的武器陸續的到那也都在有多少錢嘛我是問你有多少錢的武器還沒有來已經給那麼久了你要跟大家講嗎讓大家了解嘛我想最主要大概有三個項目吧一個是這個我們預計在明年底到的一個F16戰機的部分那另外一個是 |
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HM154C這個部分是配合這個X6的那個不管總共多少錢你告訴我讓大家了解嘛有多少錢的武器在美國很少就給錢到現在武器沒來嘛我想我們並沒有很少就給錢因為相關的這個付款的時間有一定的時程這個部分我們是不是請這個站位師來說 |
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這是國會殿堂喔 不能亂講喔是 包委員我們所有的軍購的付款都是依據美方寄帳單裡面要求我們付款的時間來付 |
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那我們護款5G有沒有到嘛就不會有他在沒有需求款項的情況之下提前付那如果說美方進度不如預期的時候這些錢也會進到他的FRB裡面一樣會產生知己當然到目前為止我們管控的預算裡面這個數目在我們今年五月份和美方召開財務管理會議之後已經大幅把這個數字下修而且把必要的項目能夠刪除我們就刪除 |
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還有多少嘛額度多少你要跟大家講啊 |
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巴尔委员我们总共目前我们付出去的总额300余亿的整个美金的军购案里面我们实际支付的是108亿左右但是这些项目里面多数都是处于已经交付的状况当中所以委员问到说我们是不是有提前去支付这些钱没有使用的这个我们必须和美方计算才有办法回答委员 |
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218.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
238.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
還要跟美方計算對這個我認為吼你們有點掩飾啊因為吼你5G給多少剩下多少沒有進來我們給錢這個你要公開透明啊對不對不能說給了錢以後我們又不是拿去支持的對不對 |
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240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
268.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
報告委員 美方的這個軍火工業裡面只要他已經進入產線的項目我們就得支付款項他就屬於一個執行中的案子他不是等到交付之後我們才有辦法給錢不是齁 給了錢以後就遙遙無期啦然後名義上是買武器實際上給錢以後就放在那裡自習其實這個也不是我們要的啦是 但這個項目我們已經把這個額度已經大幅的下修了 |
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269.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
298.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
因為你們到現在為止都不敢把那個多少額度在那裡給的錢武器沒來然後後續還要再今年又編列9495億對不對國防預算跟委員報告我想主要是重點有兩個一個就是說他還沒有到達這個應該付款的時間點我們就不會付款那縱使我們把錢匯出去到FRB的帳戶裡面那個還是屬於我們控管的而且仍然在那邊產生支息 |
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299.352 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
313.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
那就這個相關的這些武器的部分呢大概剛剛提到的AGM-154CF-16呢預計還是我們期望在明年年底前能夠交易那另外還有Mk-48的魚雷這個大概就其他的部分大概都在這個跟你們講你們現在不清清楚楚的說告知國人你們回去啦因為跟你們講一百次你們也不會很坦誠的跟大家告知啊那個我來請處紀長來 |
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329.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
354.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
主席長 是我想今年整個預算因為以前全部都是統三讓你們去調整你要薪資度名 今年是不可能的讓你翻倍你就隨便而且會因應整個國際的情勢強化整個經濟社會及國土的安全那這個國土安全的任性中央左邊的特別預算高達五千五百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
355.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
363.112 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
這個有媒體來評論說裡面是包山包海充斥著藐視的是以前的這個 |
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364.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
393.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
就像以前的前瞻非常空幻的支出名目導致內容啊行政院提出的特別預算把各種可以想像目標全部都塞進去凡是勞健保的基金啊資通環境啊乃至於教育人才培育啊全部都涵蓋已看不出和一般年度預算有什麼區別啊那有媒體這樣的披露因為時間到了你就用一個書面因為你現在是包山包海 |
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394.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
400.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
好 那個局長就請用書面來回答好 謝謝林德福委員接下來請吳秉瑞委員 |