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| 會議時間 |
2024-12-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。【所列預算案僅詢答，另定期處理】） |
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委員會主席 |
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拜臨世界要調查清楚!內政的! |
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這個議事錄沒有辦法這樣確認啊可不可以請民進黨的委員不是請民進黨的委員喂喂喂有吧喂喂喂喂喂喂喂喂 |
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委員會議委員會議委員會議委員會議委員會議 |
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國民黨 要罷免 國民黨 怕罷免 國民黨 怕罷免 國民黨 怕罷免 國民黨 怕罷免 國民黨 怕罷免 今天沒有審預算 今天只有詢答 看一下議程好不好 |
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民進黨 |
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我們絕對不能負責任這一種會議．以擔憂那一種黑牌無效的會議．人民的人不要用這樣子反民主的方式．在立法院進行這種違法會議．我們絕對反對這種議事入門違法協議 |
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違反民主方式開會的議事錄違反立法院 |
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有沒有立法院院長,如果還有立法院院長的話,就讓立法院長學傷這一個不容易的紀錄。民進黨不要用暴力黨民主的方式來確認這一個議事錄。呃...呃...有啦,有,但聲不夠大聲,我要跟你講。 |
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議長,你們知道你們現在做的事情是違反民主原則違反民主方式你們到底知不知道你們在做什麼?立法院有沒有院長?立法院院長是不是應該來協商禮拜一這一個粗糙的反民主的會議在政委員會 |
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可以不讓其他黨的委員進入會議室。會議結論太離譜了!任長要不要出面協商? |
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在1個違法的會議讓其他黨的立委進入會議室依然可以做成結論這種預設路怎麼可能可以確認?立法院難道沒有院長嗎?立法院的院長只有過水學商嗎?這種那麼粗糙違反民主的方式在會議還可以確認嗎? |
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我估計今天訪問是民主的立法院的嗎?對無效的會議,要辦法確認議事錄。要辦法確認的議事錄,是要默想人民罷免的權利。 |
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委員會議 |
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委員會議 |
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委員會議 |
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議員． |
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委員會主席 |
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在介紹禮拜一的時候﹖ |
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主席 |
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好現在開始繼續開會那我們請進行報告事項請宣讀第15次第16次會議議事錄 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議．事錄．時間113年12月9日星期一上午9時3分至下午5時47分．地點紅龍202會議室．出席委員麥玉禎委員等14人．夜席委員王玉川委員等10人．夜席官員內政部部長劉世芳及相關人員． |
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主席張昭久委員紅路報告事項宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定討論事項一繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於內政部部分二繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國土管理署及所屬警政署及所屬中央警察大學消防署及所屬國家公園署及所屬移民署建築研究所空中勤務總隊部分 |
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繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算關於附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管租業基金繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於非營業部分關於內政部主管特別收入基金繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管信託基金是不是先暫停我們直接先確認第16次會議議事錄優先確認 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議．事由．時間113年12月16日星期一上午九十四九十三分 地點紅龍202會議室 初期委員徐欣盈委員等7人 列席委員張家俊委員等22人 請教委員麥玉貞委員等1人 主席徐昭傑委員欣盈 報告事項 宣讀上次會議．事由．決定暫不確定 討論事項 繼續審查公職委員選票 |
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選舉罷免法修正草案紀律案決議第二三條四十三條五十二條五十三條六十七條六十九條七十五條及第九十條均予以保留二審查完畢分別擬據審查報告提報院會討論聚焦黨團協商並推請徐教育委員信應與院會討論時作補充說明復議案一案針對第11屆第二會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議討論事項所作之各項決議提出復議請立即處理是否有當進行公決提案人黃建斌 |
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徐宇珍﹑張志倫﹑牛旭婷﹑高欣素梅﹑丁雪中決議不通過 |
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宣讀完畢好請問對於第16次會議議事錄有無錯誤好無錯誤議事錄確定好那我們接著繼續再宣讀第15次繼續念第15次會議議事錄一審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於內政部中央警察大學國家公安署及所屬建築研究所公共勤務總隊部分稅入部分第二款第4款第7款均 |
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除無列書外其餘均照列第三款規費收入第53項內政部原列5909萬7千元增列第二目使用規費收入500萬元其餘均照列改列為列預算409萬7千元第56項中央警察大學第58項國家公務員署及所屬第60項建築研究所均照列 |
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稅除部分第7款內政部主管第一項內政部原列134億24378000元檢列媒體政策及業務宣導費400萬元第二幕 |
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民政及宗教理智業務轉型正義權力回復強補助費1億元第三目護證業務辦理護籍資料運用管理業務費一般事務費支付新式身分證印製設備暫停執行之必要費用1500萬元工具檢列1億1900萬元其餘均照列改列為133億537萬8千元 |
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本項體驗16萬保留送院會處理本項通過決議68項請參閱第4項中央警察大學13億4926萬6千元照列本項通過決議15項請參閱第6項國家公園暑期所屬35億312萬元照列本項通過決議26項請參閱 |
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第8項建築研究所3億315萬3千元照列本項通過決議8項請參閱第9項空中勤務總隊21億7169萬5千元照列本項通過決議14項請參閱 |
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2審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管作業基金實施平均地權基金業務總收入業務總支出本期剩餘比較公募金額轉投資計劃固定資產之建設改良擴充 |
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公庫增撥基金額補辦預算除無列書外其餘均照列三審查114年度中央政府總預算案部署單位預算費營業部分關於內政部主管特別收入基金一研發及產業迅速替代以基金基金來源基金用途 |
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本期短促解繳公庫補辦預算除無列數外其餘均照列二警察消防海巡移民空行人員及攜行民力安全基金基金來源基金用途本期短促解繳公庫補辦預算除無列數外其餘均照列 |
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4.審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管信託基金1.黃瑞景先生獎學基金總收入總支出本期短促均照列2.胡圓周女士獎數學基金總收入總支出本期短促均照列3.在校學生獎學基金總收入總支出本期剩餘均照列4.成員獎學基金 |
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總收入總支出本期轉述均照列5.留書生先生警察子女獎學基金總收入總支出本期剩餘均照列5.檢查內政部含送財團法人228事件今年基金會等8家財團法人114年度預算書 |
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一財團法人228事件今年基金會收入支出本期剩餘短促均照列二財團法人威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復基金會收入支出本期剩餘均照列三財團法人臺灣建築重新收入支出本期剩餘均照列四財團法人臺灣營建研究院支出收入本期剩餘均照列五財團法人中央營建技術顧問研究社 |
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週日之初本期剩餘均照列六層談法人臺灣省 |
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一永人員安全基礎基金會收入支出本期暖促均照列七財團法人警察學術研究基金會收入支出本期剩餘均照列八財團法人一永消防人員安全基礎基金會收入支出本期剩餘均照列第六審查國家住宅及都市更新中心一百億四年度預算數案收入支出含所得稅費用本期剩餘固定資產建設改良及擴充均照列 |
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通過決議期向請參閱。第7114年度中央政府總預算案關於內政部中央警察大學國家公務員組織所屬建築研究所公眾勤務總隊審查完均你據審查報告含送財政委員會提報院會。第8114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算費營業部分關於內政部主管作業基金實施平均地權基金審查完均你據審查報告含送財政委員會提報院會。 |
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第9114年度中央政府總預算．附屬特惠預算．備營業部分關於內政部主管特別收入基金．研發及產業訓除替代役基金警察消防海巡移民空行人員及協情民力安全基金 |
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審查完略你去審查報告含送財政委員會提報委員會11114年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算費營業部分關於內政部主管信託基金黃瑞景先生獎學基金胡彥周女士獎助學基金在校學生獎學基金 |
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全員獎學基金由入生先生警察子女獎學基金收入部分審查完畢以據審查報告含送財政委員會提報院會11.內政部含送財團法人228事件紀念基金會財團法人威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利恢復基金會財團法人臺灣建築中心 |
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財團法人臺灣營建研究院財團法人中央營建技術顧問研究社財團法人臺灣省義勇人員消防安全人員技術基金會財團法人警察學術研究基金會財團法人義勇消防人員安全技術基金會114年度預算書案審查完略 |
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以據審查報告提報議員會公決﹖不需交由黨員協商﹖並推請章焦及委員紅綠與議員會討論時做補充說明。內政部含送國家住宅及都市更新中心114年度預算10萬審查完畢以據審查報告提報議員會公決﹖不需交由黨員協商﹖並推請章焦及委員紅綠與議員會討論時做補充說明。 |
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請問各位同仁對於第15次的會議議事錄有無錯誤?無錯誤,議事錄確定。 |
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謝謝主席第一個我們要確定我們門是開著的他們沒有來那不是我們的問題這第一個第二個這個今天本來按照議事錄確認完畢之後接下來要處理的事項是行政院這個預算的相關答詢但不知道為什麼官員都已經先行離席在會議還沒有結束前官員先行離席是已經很奇怪的事情因此本期建請會議主席立刻通知行政院相關官員立刻回來備詢我們今天把質詢程序全部走完方得散會以上簡易謝謝 |
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本席在剛剛宣讀的時候發現行政官員已經離席本席要針對這個未經主席同意未經同意我們的行政官員可以擅自離席這個也是我們看得出現在的行政團隊對立法院的藐視 |
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憲政部門對的是整個國會對我們立法院應該有基本的尊重所以本期 |
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已經請我們議事人員我們通知行政部門我們今天行政院的相關單位立刻回到立法院我們只要沒有霸佔主席台沒有杯葛議事我們都希望我們的會議能夠和平的進行我們能夠這個按照我們既定的議程能夠持續的來走所以因為要等待我們的行政官員所以我們現在先休息謝謝 |
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28664.548 |
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響鐘 |
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委員會議 |
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誰請你們離開的? |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
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你們要清楚知道你們是中華民國的官員不是民進黨的官員不是民進黨任何一個人讓你們離開你們就能離開你們領的是人民的納稅錢不可以這個樣子哦 |
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早上霸領主席臺霸佔主席臺現在終於你們不在了我們要開會了你們可以這樣子啊用演戲演一演就跑掉了趕快回來開會吧朝委員已經說今天開到12點啊 |
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所以這件事情 行政院你們必須要來說明 |
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喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂?喂? |
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今天邀請行政院來我們要審查行政院的預算那早上您也知道嘛這個民進黨這個干擾議事大戰主席台那本席也在中午的時候有宣告一點多的時候有宣告延長會議你現在你剛剛已經到了為什麼離開 |
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您是不是可以馬上回來?我們現在會議要持續進行。我再看一下,因為我已經那個...誰請你離開的?不是不是,你已經什麼?你已經什麼?對,我已經回到辦公室了。不是不是,你剛剛不是已經回到了嗎?我現在要開始會議。你是得到錯誤的資訊是不是?誰跟您說可以離開的? |
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您是不是馬上要回來?所以現在行政院不用對立法院負責了?那您大概多久回到?我還需要等您多久?不是,你還要check一下 |
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秘書長秘書長秘書長現在現在很多委員在這裡都非常的憤怒啊您這樣子真的行政院太傲慢了秘書長您要不要回來剛剛回來又走 |
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議員會議員會議 |
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我們現在繼續開會秘書長說他盡快會回到在秘書長回到之前本席也想特別表揚還是有是非對錯 |
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民進黨執政,行政團隊就只聽民進黨團或民進黨的委員的。我們現在這樣子好了,因為太多人。本席直接來了解一下。來,不好意思。我們請問,第一位您是﹗ |
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內政衛福勞動處蘇勇副處長 |
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主席處處長李秋香處長 辛苦你們了我本來會議只排到兩點但是真的你們辛苦了因為整個的議事杯葛你們都全程看在眼裡來那下一位對面這位女性 您是哪個單位 |
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交通環境支援處陳盈榮陳處長大家給他掌聲那再下一位黑色衣服的跟著主計那下一位我好像來過很多次了李易柔專門委員謝謝你們也辛苦你們了真的 |
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審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分 |
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好,那我們現在介紹應該說我們剛剛已經介紹在場的我們現在確認不在場的我們在場的委員也是很辛苦被民進黨杯葛議事一整天霸佔主席台但是呢其實我們都在院區內因為我們是真心希望好好的開會的來,我們有高津素美委員牛許廷委員丁學忠委員 |
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張志倫委員徐宇貞委員黃建斌委員在場的委員有這幾位那接下來不在場的我們行政院的秘書長公民心秘書長發言人李慧芝也不在法規會主任委員沈淑菲也不在 |
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綜合業務處處長 彭少博處長 外交國防法務處處長 譚宗保處長 財政主計金融處處長 王淑瑞處長 經濟能源農業處處長 吳明慧處長 教育科學文化處處長 吳敬儒處長 |
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30372.924 |
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消費者保護處處長 中瑞蘭處長 不在性別平等處處長 吳秀珍處長 不在新聞傳播處處長 邱兆平處長 不在人權及轉型正義處處長 賴俊兆處長 不在國土安全辦公室主任 林潔主任 不在 |
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30383.965 |
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災害防救辦公室副主任王怡文副主任不在公共關係處處長莊麗蘭處長不在秘書處處長徐益良處長人事處處長 |
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人事處處長郭素卿政風處處長葉建華資訊處處長朱宇琦食品安全辦公室主任徐輔南部聯合服務中心執行長徐乃文 |
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中部聯合服務中心執行長莊敬誠東部聯合服務中心執行長洪宗凱雲嘉南區聯合服務中心執行長劉米山 |
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執行長不在金馬聯合服務中心執行長吳增允執行長不在能源及檢探辦公室主任吳明慧主任不在經貿談判辦公室執行秘書徐從清執行秘書不在打擊詐欺指揮中心指揮官馬世元指揮官不在各自保護委員會籌備處主任李士德主任不在 |
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那今天列席的官員本席都點名一遍了還不在那接下來接下來我們可能我看好好好那沒關係現在我先 |
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在秘書長來之前本席在此原理做幾點宣告第一個本會委員發言時間4分鐘必要時延長2分鐘非本會委員發言時間4分鐘我們現在就截止發言登記因為已經一整天了 |
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好那因為今天預算尋答本次會議就不處理臨時提案請問各位有沒有意見好沒有好那 |
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請高金委員循序發言從早上我們看到民進黨團霸佔主席台不讓我們開會現在終於可以順利開會了可是我要講的是 |
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我們的州委只喊休息通常喊休息呢我們的行政官員是不能夠離開我們院內的他只能夠在旁邊休息可是我們可以看到剛剛拱念書長其實人已經到了但是呢當中不曉得為什麼又接到了哪一通電話又離開了那絕大部分的行政院的官員都離開了剛剛主席剛剛一一唱名的名字 |
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本席是認為這麼樣的不是與立法院的開會的議程更重要的是根本就不在乎我們今天的召委因為他離開的時候也沒跟召委說那我們今天的主秘已經邀請他們回來了他們再一次的回來可是離開的時候沒跟主秘說我們幾位委員全部都在這裡然後召委呢 |
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謝謝高金委員 |
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我們行政單位真的是非常的誇張傲慢難道真的行政院團隊的眼中只有民進黨或是民進黨的委員嗎所以我們看到過去可能是8年完全的執政所以 |
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在過去8年這個 |
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黨政不分所以整個的行政院跟立法院民進黨黨團就整個合在一起無視於民眾的困苦無視於民眾的需求但是他們就是遂行他們想要做什麼在今天我們一個行政院的預算審查答詢 |
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行政院的官員可以如此的默示立法院那這個部分我們今天我們就請這個國民黨團的委員提出譴責案那我們予以譴責一定要強烈的嚴重的譴責好謝謝 |
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那我們現在因為繼續等待行政院秘書長那我們還是先休息先休息秘書長一來我們就直接進行答詢好現在休息 |
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好 那我們現在繼續開會那現在是要進行報告原本是要請行政院龔明新秘書長來報告但是龔秘書長沒有來應該說剛剛來了又配合民進黨黨團的策略又離開了而且還要求所有的行政官員離開還有國會聯絡人全部都走了 |
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但是本席在這裡特別宣告提送之書面報告請委員們自行參閱並刊登公報在此有一份譴責案我們請宣讀 |
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按由內政委員會今日議程審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分：然行政院秘書長龔明星已到內政委員會：卻在未經召委同意下竟自離開會議室：對於行政院秘書長刻意迴避國會監督：藐視國會之行徑：因與嚴厲譴責以維護國會尊嚴提案人 |
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委員：張志倫﹑徐宇貞﹑黃建斌﹑牛巡庭﹑丁雪忠﹑宣讀完畢好,我們就照這份譴責案,照案通過,請問有沒有異議?好,沒有異議,照案通過那接下來 |
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我們要本席徵詢徵詢在場的委員因為這個要照發言的還是有想要上來的是不是按照程序誰來誰沒來公示於眾沒來的官員沒來的委員都要讓全民看到啊好那剛剛沒來的官員本席都一一唱名了那現在呢 |
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我們現在來進行尋答請登記第一位的蘇巧惠委員發言蘇巧惠委員蘇巧惠委員不在接著請張宏祿召委張宏祿召委張宏祿召委不在 |
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好接下來請張志倫委員好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員各位媒體先進大家早大家全國的民眾可以看到民進黨早上來霸佔這個主席台結果下午真的可以來開會的時候民進黨的委員一個都不在現場 |
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而且剛剛我們特別剛剛還看到我們行政院的秘書長剛剛還帶著所有的行政官員通通坐在底下不曉得是接到誰的神秘的指令結果全部都退席我想要請問行政院的秘書長請問這麼不重視國會嗎?這麼不重視人民選出來的立法委員不要立法委員質詢嗎?難道這就是綠色恐怖嗎?所以我要跟行政院中央派院長 |
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國民黨團提出一個譴責案 |
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請公民心秘書長 |
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律師長律師長不在吼我覺得這非常不尊重吼那我們今天吼人民非常重視的吼還有現在行政院整個霸凌的案件吼 |
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我記得卓榮泰院長說霸凌的事情是不能容忍7天之內要把所有的事情都要處理完畢最近大家可以看到行政院公關處的莊處長莊立然處長的這個霸凌案而且本辦公室有接到這個行政院公關處的直接的這個爆料所以我是不是可以請這個莊處長公關處莊處長質詢 |
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主席,沒有,不在嗎?莊處長有沒有來?大林的莊處長有沒有來?嗯,剛剛點名沒有看到。我要請問莊處長的就是說,他不是不准那個加班費不准人家報嗎?刷卡金額不准人家報嗎? |
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而且還對這個在辦公室大分他兩個這個大博士他說他的員工是大博士啊然後說連基本的核稿都不會最近呢到外部有沒有什麼能力領導同仁啊請問今天今天處長莊處長不在我們要怎麼質詢啊處長你是接受卓榮派院長國民新國民秘書長的要求避免逃避國會的監督嗎 |
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你們的同仁現在表示只要人職到院會都會拉肚子而且被霸凌連上廁所洗澡都要不斷確認訊息而且還要吃安眠藥才能入睡請問處長你今天確定不來嗎?阿不敢來啦好第二我要請教等於是全人民關心的中新聞周刊爆料的我們的秘書處的莊處長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
31451.629 |
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徐處長徐處長我請教主席徐處長是不是請徐處長上來做質詢張委員那個秘書處的徐義良處長沒有到場我要請教徐處長他今天沒來大家都很想要問他秘書處的徐處長為什麼跑到那個這個官邸啊 |
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我們這個官邸帶著這個女同事去官邸一個半小時他到底是去做什麼事情大家知道嗎?難道今天我們中共派院長秘書長就是這樣子來袒護他們讓他們今天沒有受質詢嗎?到底在這個官邸一個半小時是做什麼事情? |
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秘書長的職責是去是週末跑去觀底嗎還帶了一個女同事去觀底非常的不能接受所以在這邊我們要跟行政院講為什麼我們要做這樣的質詢是因為你們的私德已經影響到公務 |
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以想到全人民的觀感所以今天我們所有國民黨的委員從早上等到現在終於可以開會了沒有想到我們行政院完全藐視國會我也希望全國人可以看到這就是現在賴清德他的戰狼形態也是導致我們現在立法院衝突不斷請各位國人看清楚謝謝 |
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在下一位委員發言之前本席要先宣告本日議程所列的預算案我們的相關提案請在113年12月27日也就是下個星期五中午12點以前送至內政委員會 |
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那再來就是本席想請我們的內政委員會的行政人員是否再次的聯絡公民信秘書長請他能夠到場以及率領行政院相關團隊那如果本席再給他機會如果再不到場那就不要怪 |
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沒有給他們預算這個能夠爭取他們預算的這個機會那我們國民黨團一定會對行政院的預算做出最嚴重的 |
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張家俊委員李博義委員王美惠委員黃捷委員 |
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徐新穎委員徐宇貞委員 |
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主席還有在場的各位委員沒有官員大家好我想今天我們針對中央政府的這個行政院的總預算案我們今天進行詢答那其實我們在場的每個委員都對這一次針對行政院的總預算的詢答我們其實都非常的用心所以每個人都寫了非常多的這個資料要來這個就教育我們行政院的這個鞏明星鞏秘書長 |
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結果我們現在正式開會之後發覺公秘書長不在現場所有官員都不在那我們這樣有什麼辦法能夠把他的這個讓他的總預算能夠過關因為我們完全不了解覺得行政院根本不在乎我們內政委員會對他們的審查 |
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行政院根本不在乎預算有沒有過 行政院根本就是把我們這個內政委員會的委員當空氣 所以針對這個部分我們剛剛已經這個發出了譴責案 我們覺得在這樣不重視我們的這個委員的狀況之下 那我們要怎麼樣能夠讓他預算能夠過 |
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觀光產業今年到現在已經逆差796萬人次,逆差推估也超過7500億 |
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我們可以看到行政院現在的這個狀況就是因為他們不重視觀光那尤其是剛剛舉行完的雙城論壇我們可以看到上海市長也特別講說要宣布推動上海居民赴台旅遊這是對我們的觀光業是一個好的契機我今天本來也想要問我們的這個狗明星狗秘書長您對這樣的事情是不是樂觀其成但是狗秘書長不在 |
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另外呢我今天本來還要想問的就是數位身份證已經這個暫緩到現在已經5年的時間但是每年還是編列6375萬來維育那些永遠用不到的設備那我想問一下狗祕書長他的看法是如何結果狗祕書長也不在 |
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他也不敢回答這個問題還有呢我們知道現在行政院已經變成不倫戀情跟霸凌文化的這個風暴中心今天本來應該要在現場備詢的徐義良處長我們秘書處的徐義良處長跟公關處的莊惠蘭處長兩位除了 |
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緊急事項 |
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我們行政院的卓榮泰卓院長說他不管是最近的霸凌案不管是這個衛福部的霸凌案各部會的霸凌案他都要求要在一個禮拜內徹查完畢但是為什麼行政院的這個發生的霸凌跟發生的不倫戀到現在已經幾個禮拜甚至包括前秘書長這個 |
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李孟燕的這個案子已經到現在超過半年了,到現在都還沒有任何的調查報告,也沒有任何的這個針對這個部分,行政院有提出說明所以卓文泰院長是不是針對這個部分呢?事實上一直都是寬以待己,嚴以律人呢?卓院長你是不是寬以待己? |
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也已律人：別的部會要求一個禮拜要完成報告：但是呢,行政院到現在脫脫脫：始終都還沒有任何的調查報告：所以在這邊我們嚴厲的譴責：既然行政院認為他們的預算不重要：那我們也會善盡我們的職責：算除所有行政院的預算,謝謝好,謝謝徐宇珍委員那接下來請劉許廷委員 |
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謝謝主席公民心秘書長有請公民心秘書長不在李慧芝發言人有請李慧芝發言人不在沈淑菲主任委員有請主任委員不在彭少博處長有請不在蘇永富處長不在譚中寶處長不在陳一榮處長不在王淑端處長不在吳明慧處長不在吳靜茹處長不在鍾瑞蘭處長不在吳修貞處長不在 |
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秋兆平處長不在賴俊昭處長不在林潔主任不在王毓文主任不在周一蘭處長不在徐一良處長不在郭素心處長不在葉建華處長不在呂秋香處長不在算了我不想再念了通通不在 |
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各位媒體前面的好朋友 聞所未聞本席從議員一路做到立法委員 沒想到竟然有一天可以對著空氣質詢 不只民進黨的委員沒有來 連官員都可以不來 請問這不是薪水小偷 什麼才是薪水小偷 |
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民進黨的立委協助民進黨的官員逃避監督請問這不是蛇鼠一窩什麼才是蛇鼠一窩今天早上就開始搞導彈搞亂早上秀下線下午人不見 |
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我們今天從頭到尾立場非常清楚只要你願意讓出主席台大家按照議事的程序來討論來開會我們就讓會議順利的來舉行我們在下午2點因為本來法定的時間到2點之所以要來提延長開會動議就是因為我們希望這一場會議順利的舉行不要耽誤預算的審查結果這一群人崩潰 |
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在那邊胡說八道說會議不成立然後竟然可以直接讓行政官員離席啊 |
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聞所未聞阿到底把我們徐欣盈召委放在哪裡到底把立法院的意識規則跟慣例放在哪裡這就是民進黨醜惡的嘴臉昨天還在說我們反民主搞戒嚴今天到底是誰在搞消失不見我都忍不住要講一下在下午等待他們讓出主席台的時候今天還有兩位美女委員黃婕委員王美惠委員開窗戶呼喚劉許廷委員回來開會 |
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我知道大聲回應你只要讓出主席台我就會回來開會下午4點鐘民進黨讓出主席台我們國民黨的委員通通回來開會我們說到做到但請問我們親愛的民進黨同事死去哪裡啦立法院可以這樣子搞的嗎 |
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結果本來公民心秘書長來好歹願意認真開會的我們認真質詢競好立法委員的本份竟然有神秘人士咬個耳朵官員就退席了本來剛剛還有五個處長乖乖坐在那邊我們還給他拍拍手人現在也不見了 |
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問所未聞這就是民進黨政府的執政水準這就是民進黨的執政品質護航霸凌逃避監督早上秀下線下午人不見請社會大眾認明誰才是真正的薪水小偷謝謝 |
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謝謝牛許廷委員在下一位委員發言之前本席也要在這邊宣布剛剛本席有特別請我們內政委員會的行政人員來聯絡行政院秘書長 |
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公民署長以及請公民署長還有這個整個行政團隊能夠回來那本席請他們能夠聯絡三次那經過內政委員會的行政人員回報都聯絡了但是都聯絡不上都聯絡不上所以本席也要在這裡向社會大眾特別很沉重但是我們也是很嚴厲的來譴責 |
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第一個一直說一直說我們內政委員會預算審查是最後的但是我們要審預算不是遭遇杯葛就是霸佔主席台再不然應該不知道前面有沒有主秘我們之前立法院也有發聲要質詢結果行政官員集體退場的情況嗎好 |
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既然我們要正式的開會行政官員集體退場或是在還沒有經得召委同意的時候就離席所以從此請民進黨不要再說我們不審預算 |
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預算的耽誤都是行政團隊自己還有民進黨的委員來耽誤我們議事的程序所以我們在這裡 |
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最後我們要宣告就是我們已經給了行政院機會他可以來捍衛他的預算但是他們就是放棄他們就放棄了好那我們看到很多委員都陸續前來所以我們讓今天有很多位三四十位的委員來登記我們讓這個 |
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需要還是要爭取質詢發言的委員可以來對充分的發言下一位請吳啟明委員吳啟明委員吳啟明委員不在接下來請丁學忠委員感謝主席小牛你今天就當行政院的官員 |
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昨天聽到我們的秘書長打電話來說今天行政院的預算請我們再多多支持 |
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結果昨天我有請我們辦公室要寫一份針對預算的執行稿 早上寫得比較犀利 結果我們想說技術上有在尊重委員 結果我們昨天改作比較柔和 |
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稍稍稍稍稍稍稍稍 |
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與陳正仁院長做訊息的已經過一年,不知今晚的進度如何這是要請教我們秘書長的還有我們美麗島現時要捐一億兩千幾萬要讓我們個資法與組織法的修法案今年要有什麼要又沒完成的工作需要美麗家居來完成 |
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要有答案。再來在新聞說：這個審核是因為從未處成立是為了憲法法定黨定位各位要求：居宿愛黨三年來審理一個：對於各自的獨立機關單位：否佔我們的獨立的隱私權：現在這個時候港媒與各位就告急了：本來我們行政院的公法是希望 |
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今年可以完成這個各自委員會的組織法草案：要有看到這個組織法的草案：希望可以請技術長來說明： |
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議員．審查委員．審查委員 |
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在場的各位同仁還有媒體朋友大家好 |
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我第一次當立委我以前的工作是在鄉鎮公所那我的工作經驗裡面不管是在臺東縣議會的經驗或是在代表會的經驗我們從來沒有看過在會議主席沒有宣布上位之前可以離開我今天真的是也長了知識第一次發現原來立法院真的不一樣真的不一樣可以這樣子 |
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今天陳律師中委員聊到的事情,我相信他跟我感覺都很相似啦,就是,我們在鳳町公司說不准再這樣經營,主席還不會把社會精神鬧動,可以離開,所以我們要進行什麼,我們也是第一次這樣 |
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我相信這個是一個很特別的經驗其實在今天也是在昨天我們秘書長也提到了在電話中也特別說希望能夠來協助這一次的預算來審查我們也列了一些問題想要來請教一下我們的秘書長 |
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讓我們看到從111年之後就是後疫情時代我們行政院預算不斷的在增加我們想要了解到說那預算增加的部分如果是扶國人民的這些政策我們都願意來支持可是我們並沒有看到這個國家因為預算增加變得更好也希望秘書長來說明那另外就是在於我們最近發生的這個公務部門霸凌的事件希望行政院能夠拿出 |
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有效的方式來解決然後來照顧我們公部門自己的勞工也就是我們的公務人員那很顯然的今天在場的當事人都不在我們也不知道怎麼來問那還有另外就提出一些預算我們認為有浮邊的一些情況像是允許費在113年的時候是一個費用多了一年之後就增加快一倍的費用我們也很納悶說到底是什麼 |
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委員會議委員會議 |
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今天真的是讓我們開了眼界就是我們不知道立法委員到底他的職權要怎麼行使特別是在遇到這樣的情況之下那也謝謝各位讓我這個機會能夠來質詢一個空氣那我想我的質詢就到這邊也謝謝主席謝謝好謝謝黃建斌委員的發言下一位請高金素美委員發言 |
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主席在場的委員同仁沒有官員好大家知道嗎我在昨天的時候還收到了拱明星秘書長給我的簡訊他說高金委員您好我是行政院拱明星向您致意明天行政院院本部的預算請您多支持謝謝請問一下這是要怎麼支持啊 |
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這是要怎麼支持行政院的預算啊我今天本來是要問大家還記得嗎今年的9月20號立法院一開議的時候我們就看到行政院沒有依照立法院通過的法律來編列進法補償的預算 |
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不編列預算。所以呢我們在野黨非常的努力10月17號10月21號10月24號三次朝野協商的努力最後最後終於在11月的7號行政院正式承認他的錯誤了所以我今天就要來追問進法補償的預算要怎麼編列期還有 |
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原住民族綜合發展基金因為缺乏妥善的管理還有經費的撥補已經要面臨破產了105年我們的基金還有97億114年我們只剩下17億大家知道嗎明年以後115年後原住民的綜合發展基金如果不撥補進去就破產了這是非常嚴重的問題啊 |
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我覺得我這立法院你們剛新進的你們真的是看到了歷史上的一頁我這立法院23年了我從來都不知道我們的行政官員原來真的是黨國不分 |
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我們的官員應該非常清楚知道他們的身份是中華民國的人民繳出的納稅錢讓他們可以領薪水我們可以看到行政院今天不僅僅是拱壁書長帶隊離開所有的官員也離開了只接到了一通神秘的電話或者是有一個人在這邊下令然後大家起鳥獸散 |
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我覺得真的是非常非常的荒謬行政院卓院長你沒有依法編列我們的進法補償現在又藐視國會你們真的是上樑不正下樑歪呀真的是一個比一個還狠一個比一個還厲害根本無視於國會的存在 |
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你們不是在講嗎?也支持嗎?支持韓國的這個戒嚴嗎?難怪大家還記得的話我有一次總質詢我問了左院長我說左院長你是不是要向希特勒學習他們當時就是宣布戒嚴解散國會然後逮捕不同政黨的領袖 |
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今天民進黨好像真的是在復制這種情況我真擔心哪一天立法院是不是有一把火給燒了真的不希望被我總質詢的議員給猜中看這種狀況可能我們要在這邊先提醒一下立法院的我們的水電人員請注意一下我們立法院裡面的電力系統 |
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萬一哪一天說電線不小心走火整個立法院就被燒起來了我希望我的預言不要說中在這裡給予最嚴重的譴責謝謝好 謝謝高金素梅委員接下來請鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭天才委員好 謝謝請鄭天才委員 |
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今天我在經濟委員會審查預算審查完預算之後下午又去參加中央行政機關組織基準法還有行政院組織法運動部及所屬的相關的行政法人的 |
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這些組織的一個草野協商協商完之後就上來結果一看怎麼只有這個立法委沒有行政機關了所以我非常非常的訝異因為我所接到的訊息是今天還沒有結束會議還沒有結束竟然沒有看到行政機關的人 |
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而我昨天之前就在準備要質詢這個行政院秘書長針對行政院的預算尤其是這個相關的預算裡面相關的這些各處有沒有積極的來 |
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提供資訊給行政院院長所召開的一原住民族基本法所召開的研究法推動會因為過去長年來八年來行政院一原住民族基本法所召開的推動會原住民族基本法推動會都是在做無關 |
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原住民族基本法所規定要制定的法律都沒有提而都是在談跟原住民族基本法無關的這些議案所以有新的這個行政院院長上任然後又是新的這個行政院秘書長從國發會到擔任秘書長這個部分都是需要 |
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這個要求這個秘書長應該要安排好相關原住民族基本法相關的這些議程的安排譬如說要讓人民會去報告去說明為什麼原住民族自治法在過去的8年都沒有出人民會為什麼都沒有出人民會 |
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嚴明會為什麼都沒有送到行政院這應該要列在這個嚴紀法推動會的由院長主持的會議裡面來去檢討又譬如說嚴祝民族土地及海域法這8年來嚴明會也都沒有送到行政院來審議 |
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所以這個也是應該延期法推動會所應該要去這個檢討或是要去審議的部分要去討論的部分又譬如說延期法這個明定要定定部落工法人的設置辦法這8年來 |
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這8年來都沒有定 這個都是應該研究法推動會 行政院院長召集的會議裡面來去檢討的 但是在過去的8年都沒有 |
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本來是要去質詢這個行政院的秘書長因為他過去在國發會當過主任委員他應該要很了解這個管考因為管考就是行國發會的重要的業務當然行政院秘書長應該要好好的管考結果今天沒有辦法質詢他非常非常的遺憾以上謝謝 |
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好,謝謝鄭天才委員接下來請鍾嘉斌委員,鍾嘉斌委員,鍾嘉斌委員不在請洪孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
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今天質詢行政院114年度施政計畫跟收支預算報告我跟大家報告什麼概念行政院從前年112年總預算13億多到去年113年總預算變成14億多到今年也要編明年的預算暴增到15億多一年多一億多的預算 |
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不用審查嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
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不用審查嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
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不用報告嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
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不用了解嗎?你的施政計劃央央沙沙寫了12項裡面委員們都在準備都在做資料的收集都在做功課結果今天要質詢的時候可以所有官員一字排開全部不見在護航什麼? |
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是沒有辦法回答嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
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33280.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
理念的部分明年的預算行政院編了15億多我們要問15億要花在哪裡一年多一億多這是什麼自然增生是不是那完全官員不在沒有辦法尋答一句話講嘛 |
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你自己預算都不要沒緊的時候很抱歉啦那你要立法院我們要幫人民看準荷包要專業審查嚴格把關那就建議內政委員會嚴格把關啊 |
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沒有詢答沒有審查預算就乾脆全部都擱置吧因為既然連秘書長都不要緊15億的預算召委已經宣布今天開會到12點了而且今天早上我們就已經8點的時候就已經來登記發言了如果不是民進黨委員站在主席台霸佔主席台的話 |
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早就可以詢答啦我們等到現在了沒有辦法詢答那既然官員不重視預算那我真的誠心建議沒有詢答沒有審查所有預算就先放著吧再者這兩天有一個大新聞啊行政院裡面有處長 |
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跟下屬有霸凌的事件有婚外情的事件秘書長到底調查的狀況為何能不能跟國人清楚明白交代還利用官邸來約會或者說有其他的一個狀況真相在哪裡早上說秘書長要進來的時候媒體詢問秘書長不發一言不發一語啊說實在話他 |
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員工怎麼樣做私人行為歸私人行為但是如果說有用到公部門有用到官邸有用到公家機關的話該不該向國人說明跟報告清楚當然應該啊再者這兩天又傳出有霸凌女王是行政院人事總處我們講日據有叫派遣女王啊台灣更厲害叫霸凌女王啊 |
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33395.596 |
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莫名其妙我們可不可以不要有這樣子的一個害群之馬在公佈門體系裡面那這樣子的一個人現在調查狀況為何沒有說明 |
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甚至我知道說好像連委員要相關所知的部分調查報告還沒有辦法提供今天本席辦公室已經正式發函要求去識別化給本席清楚的調查報告我們看行政院什麼時候會提供最後這兩天真的很遺憾大法官的被提名人說不敢面對當初死刑的這個受害者的家屬 |
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就是一些被害者的家屬要座談會大法官被提名不敢面對現在行政院的秘書長也不敢面對內政委員會的質詢我們要問當上意大於民意當上面的意思來大於代表人民的立法院的時候到底現在官員是不是都在聽黨意而不是民意 |
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所以我們真的強烈譴責今天立法院內政委員會還在開會的時候所有官員就已經先落跑這樣子一個落跑行為就是逃避監督就是逃避人民的立法院就是沒有辦法對自己的施政負責我們予以最強烈譴責好 謝謝謝謝洪孟凱委員接下來請麥毓貞委員 |
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主席好,有請秘書長上臺。所以呢,因為缺席,所以我要跟總統報告。 |
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我們今天是內政委員要開會我們8點就來要簽到了但是呢當我們9點要開會的時候我們進來看到的我們的內政委員會裡面全部都不是內政委員 |
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所以開什麼會所以呢這樣子的行為要領政府的薪水占用我們的會議室還有讓大家每天在一整天在這邊等他浪費時間這樣子的浪費我們的國家的資源誰來陪我們 |
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這個政府來陪我們嗎還說大家說我們薪水小偷是誰是薪水小偷他們佔領一天在這邊還吃我們立法院的便當這樣算不算薪水小偷對不對沒有工作自己的工作沒有做來這邊霸佔這裡這樣才是真正的薪水小偷所以呢雖然是我們秘書長不在但是呢我們還是一樣工作要做 |
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我們力能科技產業全球都在努力的目標我們一起努力讓我們台灣達成近年碳排的一天但在那一天來臨之前我們需要非常實務的面對台灣電力短缺的問題 |
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要推動新的政策都要有設實施日期還有實施的目標但是呢我們立能在105年10月27日行政院會議報告 |
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全面推動包含節能、創能、除能及智慧系統整合至能源轉型,以綠能推動產業發展、科技創新三大願景及焦距 |
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| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
33626.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
臺電國家國營事業 |
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| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
他們寧願把電力這個預算讓財團還有公司電力者來解決缺電的問題 |
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| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
在我們看到的114年的台電編列的預算外購入再生能源算高達 |
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33673.882 |
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33678.404 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
1588億政府用納稅錢來去投資集團做虧本生意讓我們政府再來虧本制度收購的標準在哪裡還有明年還要編列824億預算來去購買光電用超高的價錢跟廠商購買 |
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| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
這是合理的嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
33700.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
33700.812 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
這算不算土地廠商? |
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| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
33701.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
我們台電每年都虧損多少錢? |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
33701.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
33701.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
大家才會覺得說好呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
33702.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
所以這個能源一直在推動但是一直在虧錢 所以我們呼籲我們的政府 |
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| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
我們的預算是我們人民的血汗錢,不要亂開,不要亂用,要看我們的人民需求來去編預算,不要為了自己的荷包,編到滿滿滿,裝到叭叭叭,這樣就不是我們需要的政府,謝謝 |
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33753.97 |
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謝謝邁伊貞委員接下來請陳素悅委員陳素悅委員陳素悅委員不在請黃國昌委員謝謝召會 |
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內政委員會其實我不是第一次來內政委員會有時候關心的一些議題重大的法案那我其實都會來以非本委的身份依法來內政委員會詢問相關的事項只不過說內政委員會我第一次看到所有被選的官員空蕩蕩 |
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包括了我們行政院的秘書長龔明新行政院的發言人李慧芝行政院法規會的主委沈淑菲行政院綜合業務處的處長彭少博上面這些名單的人現在全部都不在全部都不在 |
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我想當然我不是內政委員會的委員不過就一個小小的建議提供給今天會議的主席以及我們所有內政委員會的委員當作參考 |
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這些官員到底是誰受益可以離開的這些官員到底是誰受益可以離開的甚至這些官員是誰打電話把他們叫走的這件事情立法院必須要有態度這件事情立法院必須要有態度民進黨的立委 |
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常常講一句話我還記得本屆國會剛開始的時候他們說什麼?他們說委員的質詢權非常的重要不容遭受到剝奪為了這個事情明明自己該質詢的時候人不在 |
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主席韓國瑜院長一直念名字人不在被跳過去了暴跳如雷跑去找韓國瑜院長要討公道結果那個時候的民進黨委員不斷的強調 |
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執行權是立委在憲法裡面最核心的權限結果自己不在場被韓國院長跳過去了暴跳如雷說這個是憲法所保障我們立委最重要的核心權限結果民進黨 |
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氣融融的跟全國人民展現立委的質詢權在民進黨行政官員的眼中不只一毛錢因為今天所發生荒謬的狀況是非常多認真的委員在這邊現在已經是下午5點56分了大家都在這邊開會 |
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要珍惜每一個人登記執行的權利跟機會但是民進黨口中最寶貴最核心的執行權有一件事情可以把所有立委的執行權徹底的空洞化就是我們的行政官員全部不見我們的行政官員全部缺席 |
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我們每一個人大家冷靜的想想屬以自知何以自知我為什麼說屬以自知何以自知我們在推動國會改革的時候我們當初立法院職權新施法以前借法喔從來沒有規範官員不來立委可以怎麼樣 |
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修正前的立法院職權行使法從來沒有規範,官員不來立委可以怎麼樣?我們為了要讓立委職權行使明確化,符合在憲法裡面權力相互監督制衡的基本原則,我們把以前的法律漏洞給補起來了。 |
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我在國會改革法案當中立法院職權刑事法25條第三項規定什麼規定行政官員不可以任意缺席沒有得到同意不可以任意缺席如果任意缺席的話有法律效果看到科署罰還還是要移給監察院彈劾但是現在由民進黨 |
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所組成的綠色大法官在憲法判決裡面給我們所有的行政官員免死金牌為什麼我說他們給我們的行政官員免死金牌我們憲法法庭在他們做成的判決當中說什麼他說 |
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行政首長在立法委員開會時故附有在場備詢與答詢的憲法義務我再念一次行政首長在立法委員開會時有附有在現場備詢與答詢的憲法義務而大法官先把話講得很漂亮 |
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有在這邊的憲法義務啊但是但是最重要的就是這個但是但是呢行政院跟立法院平等定之 |
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兩者各有其權並各司其職所以富有備詢義務的行政首長如果有重大事由沒有辦法出席應該本與權力分立下憲法機關相互尊重的原則行政首長要及時知會立法院並盡可能尋得會議主席各黨團與立法委員的諒解 |
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提轉直下說那他要通知我們啊又取得大家的諒解啊來我請教一下主席啊行政院律師長發言人這些行政院的大官們有沒有通知您沒有沒有通知您沒有第一個 |
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我們的憲法法庭說啊有來的憲法義務啊第二個不來的時候要通知啊要取得諒解啊所以是公然欺騙召委嘛公然欺騙召委嘛我們把事實先確認一下對主席沒有不敬那但是呢 |
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我的最後憲法法庭的精華前面講的我必須要講幾乎都是空話為什麼都是空話不來可不可以處罰不可以處罰不來可不可以移送監察院彈劾不可以移送監察院彈劾如果要處罰要移送監察院彈劾啊我的憲法法庭跟我們全台灣人民宣告的憲法價值是違憲 |
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違憲所以屬以自知何以自知台灣在權力分立的憲政架構下面長期以來飽受批評的是什麼是行政權獨大國會弱化沒有辦法有效的監督制衡結果我們的憲法法庭 |
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我們的憲法法庭更賦予民進黨的行政官員免死金牌為什麼說有免死金牌憲法法庭說我有憲法義務要來對沒錯我有憲法義務那我不來你能拿我怎麼樣我們的憲法價值是行政官員愛來不來 |
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不用取得同意不用告知主席所有人的憲法法庭在憲法訴訟的判決裡面說行政官員來這邊有義務有憲法義務講得非常的高啊那微展的這個憲法的義務的法律效果是什麼完全沒有任何法律效果真是讓大家大開眼界讓大家大開眼界接下來關鍵的問題來了 |
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那我們立法院能夠怎麼辦?我們立法院能夠怎麼辦?其實我是呼應剛剛很多內政委員會委員的主張這個預算顯然我們行政院的幕僚長我們行政院所有一級的主管其實都不是很在乎 |
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真的不是很在乎,他們的態度就是不在乎嘛那當然台灣民眾黨黨團我們一定尊重內政委員會各個委員在行使預算上面的權利那只是我必須要清楚的說明到第二回合到第二回合黨團可以提案協商的階段我們立法委員 |
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依照立法院職權刑事法憲法法庭說這些行政官員有憲法義務但是他們不來其實也沒什麼關係我唯一的能夠處理的事情就他們預算行使我們預算的審查權跟刪除權台灣民眾黨黨團 |
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針對今天我們行政院的秘書長藐視國會欺騙國會連來都不會來我們一定會清楚的反映在我們預算刪減的提案之上到時候我不知道我們的行政院是不是又要申請復議 |
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申請憲法法庭給他裁判我也不知道我們的憲法法庭可以說行政院的預算不可以刪減刪減行政院的預算違憲是不是會有這麼荒謬的憲法主張我們大家拭目以待 |
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但是作為立法委員站在人民的立場監督行政機關針對預算來進行刪減本來就是憲法所賦予我們的職權那今天會出現這樣子的狀況我必須要說行政院要負百分之百的責任 |
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也希望我們行政院院長卓榮泰不要躲起來。站出來說清楚講明白是你下令滾明星回去了嗎? |
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34541.36 |
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今天造成這樣子的狀況到底是誰認為他在臺灣這個民主憲政的國家已經在扮演太上皇的角色我相信全臺灣人民都值得一個清楚的答案謝謝好謝謝黃國昌委員接下來請陳培宇委員陳培宇委員陳培宇委員不在羅美林委員羅美林委員羅美林委員不在 |
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| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
李坤澄委員．李坤澄委員．李坤澄委員．李坤澄委員不在．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．河新淳委員．陳冠廷委員．陳冠廷委員．陳冠廷委員．陳冠廷委員．陳冠廷委員．陳� |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
34573.055 |
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34583.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
陳庭菲委員陳庭菲委員陳庭菲委員不在羅明財委員羅明財委員羅明財委員不在陳玉珍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
34594.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
34608.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
謝謝主席這個本期也不是內政委員但是我也在內政委擔任過兩任的這個召委那我是財政委員會的召委今天我從昨天晚上事實上在議場門前過夜到今天早上在我們財政委員會審查預算審查完畢後下午開了幾個協調我看到我們內政委員會的委員到現在還在挑燈夜戰努力的在這個要對這個 |
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34620.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
民進黨委員不在． |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
34638.055 |
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34639.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
﹚立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
34660.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
行政院的秘書長郭明欣﹖秘書長以前國發會主委﹖他今天來不是代表他個人﹖他今天來是代表大家看到他的業務報告的這個第一句話裡頭說 |
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34681.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
34704.815 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
今天應邀來報告感謝各位委員對本院的支持與協助請代表卓院長向各位委員致上最高的謝誠所以光明星今天的身份不是代表他光明星個人他今天是代表行政院的卓院長所以很好奇到底是不是什麼原因讓他離席呢是不是我們卓院長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
34706.636 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
為了要知道這個答案我想我先打個電話給那個 |
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34730.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
34740.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
公務秘書長看到他接不接看到怎麼來回答這個問題為什麼是左院長請他離席呢還是他自己離席我們來看看他會不會接電話沒有聲音 |
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| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
五通齁 |
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34793.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
34803.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
沒有接啊想溜聲齁我們再想一下想一下因為他正在忙碌說明在洗手間 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
34805.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
34808.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
您撥的電話無人接聽請稍後再撥 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
34824.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
34840.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
有一個是有關打擊詐欺指揮中心的指揮官我想從這個業務報告裡頭我們看到大家都知道現在國內的詐欺的情形非常的嚴重前一陣子還有內湖的這個一對因為被詐欺的母女因此而自殺親生 |
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| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
每天國人被詐騙至少有5億元以上的費用所以我們國人都非常關心政府到底要如何來打詐如何來防詐但是一樣我們看到今天的報告案裡頭內容完全隻字未提政府到底如何要來打詐即便政府成立了打擊詐騙打擊詐欺指揮中心 |
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| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
那今天所有的人都不見這個是在詐欺我們這邊的律法委員嗎告訴我們說他會出現他是在現場演出如何當全台灣最高的詐騙首腦嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
34882.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
34885.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
行政院的預算今年有編列這個15億我想這個我們秘書長代表卓院長的缺席除了在法理上非常的藐視國會不尊重國會我們應該嚴厲譴責以外這個在實務上我們也看出來這個行政院事實上不在乎這個15億對他們來講15億是懶散的所以我到時候本席到時候在這個 |
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34907.521 |
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| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
最後一位你可以提 |
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| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
因為下禮拜五才停止收件您可以提對我在第二輪也會強烈的這個提出來那所以呢我想這件事情知事提到因為代表這個卓院長的這個公秘書長不在然後又沒有接電話又沒有說出任何的理由實在是應該提出譴責 |
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34971.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
說謊當然因為他是代表是國內最大最高的詐騙集團的首腦這個我想這個大家都已經是非常清楚了那當然我沒有譴責其他沒有道德委員民進黨委員擺拍是已經成為自然這個我們要習慣那事實上也不想開會他們只想站主席台但完全不想開會那我們希望這個事情是第一次絕對不容許再發生這個非常的重要請召委也要告訴這些沒有來的這些官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
34972.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
35000.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
正式的發文告訴他們說請他們要尊重我們委員來開會的這個權利也是他們應該出席的這個義務以上謝謝好謝謝謝謝陳奕臻委員接下來請楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員不在林楚英委員林楚英委員林楚英委員不在王育民委員王育民委員王育民委員不在鄭振前委員鄭振前委員鄭振前委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
35005.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
35007.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
目前登記發言的委員除了不在場者其餘均已發言完畢這邊有 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
35031.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
35034.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
在場委員提的譴責案我們請議事人員宣讀好,譴責案請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
35053.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
35062.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
按由：有鑑於本日12月18日內政委員會審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分,緊接外秘書長龔明星已致會議室備詢,卻接獲神秘電話後,在未經召委同意下隨即離開會場,明顯迴避國會監督。 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
35074.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
35099.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
為維護國會尊嚴要求行政院於一週內向內政委員會提出調查報告以釐清事實真相並追究相關失職人員責任提案人委員高金素梅麥玉珍徐宇珍劉巡庭張志倫丁學忠宣布完畢好那這一份譴責案我們是不是照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
35101.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
35104.816 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
大家有沒有意義沒有意義那我們就通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
35108.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
35109.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
律法院律法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
35134.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
35154.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
我們中華民國最高民意機構每一位立委他代表著都是民眾的托付不管是區議員或不分區議員是民眾高度的托付所以行政院對立法院負責就是對全民負責但是他們可以這樣漠視民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
35155.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
35174.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
我們對於這種行為絕對不容允許所以我們也要請我們全國的民眾要能夠看清這個事實過去說國會改革其實國會改革就是國會的維權維護民眾的權益所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
35176.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
35201.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
立法委員是代表民眾在監督我們的行政單位我們不能夠讓行政單位為所欲為一切要依法所以我們再次的我們希望我們的行政單位能夠重視民意也要能夠回應我們整個立法委員所表達的也是民意的託付 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
35202.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
35224.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
那接著我們今天的會議由委員徐欣盈丁學忠黃建斌高金素梅等委員所提的書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報那書面質詢請相關單位於一周內以書面答覆並複製本會好本日議程處理完畢現在散會 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
35228.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
35229.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
我們堅持到五 謝謝大家 |
| IVOD_ID |
16382 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16382 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-17 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-18T08:30:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-18T18:16:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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