| IVOD_ID |
163798 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163798 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-03T10:59:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-03T11:15:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/095f1cfadbf5b890f473d78716de2100704543300bdabf029c82953a25bf8a34849987ba386f8b6b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:37 - 11:15:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議（事由：一、行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長、經濟部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案」編製經過並備質詢（10月3日）。二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢（10月7日）。三、10月3日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。四、10月7日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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麻煩再請卓院長備詢卓院長 所有團隊大家辛苦了我們先看下一頁 |
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您上周在立法院新會期的施政報告您說了內閣的三大重建也是台灣急需的三大重建經貿佈局的重建災民生活的重建以及社會信任的重建我認為都非常重要 |
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但我也要提台湾最严峻的一个挑战往往在于我们很多的社会资讯被错假消息所影响了所混淆了这也就是三大重建当中您罕见的把社会的信任重建列在重要的施政方针上我非常的肯定 |
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所以說我們要社會信任的重建就是要有效的反制錯假訊息有效的去破解這些認知作戰所以當認知作戰無所不在對方是用槍砲彈藥的時候我們執政部門就不能還在拿彈弓啊所以說如果 |
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政府要迎向一個重建社會秩序也就是等於要保障提升我們的執政效能如果有SOP的話你認為SOP是什麼當然我們一向 |
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對整個社會的要求就是對守法對好人要進行更多的保障對於不法的對那個侵犯別人的我們一定要有法律的依據作為工具來嚴格的懲罰這樣才能建立一個社會公平的那條線社會安全的那條線建立起來之後我們才有資格跟能力要求人民跟我們信賴我們共同建立社會制度一起前進好下一頁 |
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我很快的列舉出我認為我們的執政團隊需要有重建社會信任來保障提升我們執政效能的SOP |
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第一步有效情搜你要知道社會在關心什麼什麼樣的錯假訊息正在肆虐正在擴散第二步叫做精準闢謠第三你要加速擴散真相加速擴散我們的政策內涵最後一個不能偏廢的 |
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必要的時候讓法律途徑讓司法來保護每一個閣員保護我們政府的執政效能所以這是我思考出來的 |
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重建社會秩序行政部門要有的SOP有效情搜第一步精準闢謠第二步快速擴散很重要最後必要的話採取司法的途徑下一頁這兩天我要替我們內政部劉士芳部長說話 |
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一個這麼努力在防災跟救災來統領我們的內閣團隊的指揮官我們劉部長居然到昨天還在被國民黨黨中央連災情也在消費連救災也在造謠國民黨造謠說劉世芳行我們的行政院內政部延緩了撤離的關鍵13小時 |
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我要肯定我們劉部長昨天快速的行政院的院會後的記者會快速的澄清而且補充你在家就是你秀出了我們的完整的通聯記錄用完整的資訊正確的資訊seeing is believing就在這裡國民黨不要再造謠我認為非常快速而且精準有效但是 |
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有沒有考慮我直接破題好了 院長我非常支持我們內閣團隊往往覺得息事寧人新會期有預算要審預算在在野黨的手上或者是我們內閣團隊就不應當去新送我認為除了闢謠必要的時候採取提告司法的途徑是非常重要劉部長你覺得呢 |
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我們可以審慎考慮院長你會支持我們的團隊鼓勵大家必要的時候因為這打擊的不只是個人的形象他重挫的是政府的效能的形象我尊重部長對個人權益的選擇但我鼓勵部長為維護整個團隊要做出必要的想法好 我們來看下一段影片 |
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這是昨天晚間在所有花蓮的地方群組快速傳散的一個影片來 |
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可以播放嗎好 停了 |
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簡單講我要告訴院長部長這個影片昨天夜間在數十個花蓮的地方群組有系統性計劃性的大量的擴散他講的造謠的內容就是現在我們的政災所收到的善款會被民進黨政府 |
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拿去挪用用在不跟救災相關的事情甚至就是會侵吞了這群災民應當獲得的善款這就是不折不扣的造謠昨天晚上到今天早上快速的在傳散一夕之間數十個上百個群組這樣擴散這絕對背後有組織性 |
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絕對是謠言吧每一封的善款就是用在災民身上就是用在災區重建我的說法是這個是將自己的不了解跟猜測變成一種懷疑把自己的不信任要擴大成為全國人民的不信任 |
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這是非常要不得的一個行為政府從來沒有說過政災基金會收的款項要做這個做那個從來沒有說過我們從來政災基金會政委捐款到昨天已經七億八千萬了我們一定會用在災民身上而且會直接快速有效的發放下禮拜 陳金德政委就會到災區一戰式的來受理很多的作業內容 |
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好 謝謝院長的說明面對錯假訊息絕對要回到我們剛剛的SOP你要勤搜 獲得資訊你要精準的闢謠你要快速的擴散正確的訊息最後考慮採取司法的途徑我跟院長報告 柏中你也能請回 辛苦了手上這一張是我最近收到的我擔任民進黨幹事長的這段時間我受到非常多的安全威脅 |
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不管寫email的或打電話來的我一向也認為習是寧人但如果習是寧人就是姑息養奸如果持續的溫良公儉讓就是為虎作娼所以我第一次針對我個人威脅我 |
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斬首行動賴清德也保不了你的這一個威脅的事件我提告了而我這幾天收到我們台北士林地方檢察署的這個檢疫的判決也就是會處以也抓到人了 |
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讓這一個恐嚇威脅跟你意見不同的人還要付出代價他要接受司法的制裁我說過我過去也認為習氏寧人可能選民有情緒我們要理解但如果一再的去縱容姑息真的就是為虎作倡所以我鼓勵夏業從過去陳時中擔任防疫指揮官 |
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每一個造謠都針對他重挫政府防疫的所有的執政效能跟形象但是正因為陳時中提告了62個司法案件還他清白全部不起訴千劫 |
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陳吉仲部長當時的超思雞蛋案也被在野黨聯手認知作戰如何可怕還有中國在背後引舞也透過司法還陳吉仲清白正義雖然會遲到但是正義一定會到 |
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所以我希望行政院給予我們所有的內閣首長一個最強大的支持如果傷及個人的聲譽如果傷及我們執政的效能國家的形象更是破壞了社會的信任的話我們該告就告您願意給所有內閣的閣員這一個最強大的支持力量嗎 |
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你所提到的應該是網路上的人權啊對網路人權我們通常都比較沒有正面去看待他但是如果這個已經變成傷害個人傷害如果是我剛講國民黨啊如果傷害個人傷害團隊傷害到人民跟政府之間的信任我鼓勵我也支持所有在網路上被這些霸凌或是被這些網路不只網路我也是這個也是被霸凌或是用這種 |
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推卸性的口語去做一些人生的攻擊我請我們的首長一方面尊重他自己的選擇一方面鼓勵為團隊做出應該有的做法好 謝謝也希望所有的內閣官員我們獲得院長的支持 |
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也就是司法是社會正義的最後一道防線我們不濫訴但是保護國家保護閣員我認為必要的話必須採取司法的途徑剛剛講到SOP下葉院長你有被跟拍嗎我到目前沒有感覺到沒有感覺那你覺得你有沒有 |
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您應該會有您也我想極有可能會有甚至連坐在我們台上的韓國瑜院長很有可能也是這個跟拍狗仔集團的獵殺名單吧 |
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剛剛講的SOP我同樣在這裡用短短的時間在民主法治的社會居然發生這種為了打擊政敵用盯梢用跟監用偷拍的方式來做出極不道德而且違法的狗仔行為我們除了表達遺憾更要譴責我甚至建議韓國瑜院長立法院要不要成立一個調查委員會啊 |
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或者是立法院也可以考慮在院會作出一個譴責案因為在座的113位立委包括韓國瑜院長都極有可能是受害者 |
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所以說反跟姦反偷拍反對這種政治征防前端要有效的預防我也呼籲啟動我們所有的保六或者是我們刑事警察局協助所有的內閣閣員所有的坐車的安全要去做這些反跟車的科技的作為有效預防 |
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第二個SOP如果查到真的有被跟拍的事實而且是違法的手段末端就要來嚴格就處該告就告當然這是保護閣員的隱私之外也是保障國家的安全因為我們不知道這個偷拍集團背後有沒有境外勢力 |
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所以這個SOP我也希望院長支持所有的閣員協助我們所有的 必要用科技的方式來反跟監 反偷拍大家損一下大家保護大家保護閣員 保護我們的政府就是保護國家安全院長這個SOP是我今天給您的第二個建議現在進入我們關稅談判我們來看看 |
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五五波的這件事對不起五五分很遺憾剛剛前一位質詢的張其凱委員還在明知在談判沒有觸及不可能答應也絕對沒有承諾的所謂的台美晶片產能五五分這件事情他還在這裡持續的擴散錯假的訊息我今天要用最後短短的時間我們來看看赴美投資的那一頁 |
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跟院長分享喔 赴美投資就是罪惡的嗎赴美投資就應當被解讀是產業外移掏空台灣嗎我們看看國際社會各個主要國家這幾年對美的投資存量的總額都不斷的攀升而台灣並沒有如 |
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在野黨的委員所擴散的那麼嚴重我們看看日本看看韓國看看中國也好德國也好世界各國都在佈局全球所以台灣不只不落人於後更要搶得先機不要把赴美投資妖魔化下一頁在我們看台灣模式那一頁我非常支持這個台灣模式 |
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讓台灣成功的產業聚落的方式可以在全球落地這是壯大台灣不是掏空台灣這個G2G的合作您在這裡告訴我們是不是極有可能被實踐 |
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談判已經到最後關鍵的這個時刻了那所有的細節這個磋商都已經完成了目前在等待的就是雙方對一些彼此的條件最後一個承諾那麼再做一個最後的總結所以總結會議我們認為啊會在適當的時間就出現我們總結會議會納入這個台灣模式那五五分這個部分副院長已經說過很多次了沒有談過沒有承諾也不會答應好最後一頁 |
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我要在這裡再一次的支持擴大對美國的投資布局全球不是白白送錢 |
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要我們家一起賺大錢我們作為產業最強大的實力我支持要臺灣博士可以加強研擬促成美國政府接受我們這個營銷的方案他說我們不會是在老實在說的只是掏錢賺錢我們是用產業經貨合資共生共利共贏的方式來影響臺美的官員的看法 |
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好 謝謝吳斯堯委員質詢 謝謝卓院長備詢 謝謝 |