| IVOD_ID |
16373 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16373 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2024121382 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-16T13:30:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-16T14:45:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
01:14:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-12-16T14:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院黨團協商（事由：一、研商各黨團推舉社會公正人士組成「課程審議會委員審查會」相關事宜。二、研商「憲法訴訟法第三十條及第四十三條條文修正草案」、「憲法訴訟法第四條及第九十五條條文修正草案」等案。（國民黨黨團提議）三、研商「財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案」等案。（國民黨黨團提議）四、研商「警察人員人事條例修正第三十五條條文及增訂附表三草案」等案。（國民黨黨團提議）五、繼續研商「發展觀光條例第二條及第七十條之二條文修正草案」等案。（國民黨黨團提議）六、研商「公益揭弊者保護法草案」等案。（台灣民眾黨黨團提議）） |
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好,謝謝 |
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現在跟兩個黨團報告因為今天上午民進黨黨團發函今天他們抗議內政委員會選辦法的爭議表達嚴正的抗議所以希望我本席擇即召開但是我發的開會通知是兩點鐘所以我一定要在這裡如期舉行至於協商不成那是另外一個故事今天我們也非常感謝教育部的政部長歡迎您 |
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教育部國民及學前教育署的彭署長,熱情歡迎。國家教育研究院的嚴副院長,熱情歡迎您。各位黨團幹部,現在我們民進黨沒有參加,請問一下你們有什麼寶貴意見,請。院長 |
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請台灣民眾黨請表達意見謝謝院長我們是依照院長所發的開會通知來參加協商 |
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那如果因為有黨團沒有參與導致沒有辦法遂行的話那接下來就可能要拜託院長我們一切就按照議事規則依序的進行這個原則我覺得很重要那否則的話如果我們建立起一個奇怪的規則什麼叫奇怪的規則是黨團協商我可以不要來 |
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那又在堅持說沒有經過什麼實質的討論協商、院會不能處理。那這樣的話老實說我要癱瘓立法院的法案真的太容易了。你每次主持協商我都不來。然後用相同的理由當作藉口,說院會不能處理。我想依照立法院職權刑事法也好,依照立法院的議事規則也好,都不是這樣解釋的嘛。 |
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我們經過一個月的協商冷凍期有召集協商協商沒有辦法成立那我們一切就按照議事規則來進行這個是台灣民眾黨黨團希望表達的立場之前在好幾次院長召集的協商當中其實我們都一而再再而三也跟議事人員包括秘書長都已經確認了 |
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我們立法院職權刑事法基本上面所規範、議事進行的程序。我覺得這個基本原則應該是蠻重要的。第二個部分是說,因為今天的協商通知好像變動了好幾次。有一個是台灣民眾黨黨團的提案,上個禮拜五的時候,院會結束了。 |
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那我有去請教院長那院長說叫我們趕快發通知那我也發了通知那怎麼我到今天看到了開會通知單上面我不曉得是不是我拿到的是舊的版本吹哨者保護法應該要在上面啊第幾案啊第六案沒有第六案是憲法訴訟法所以我現在拿到的是舊的開會通知是不是 |
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新的那個,你講的第六案是公益階壁者保護法草案。是,我現在桌上放的是舊的是不是?所以現在有新的嗎?對,第一個就是課程審議委員會審。因為上個禮拜五的時候,我先跟院長報告,就是說台灣民眾黨黨團本來也有提案,說 |
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要延長開會的時間到晚上十二點。當然對我們來講,重中之重是整個社會都非常關心的公益階壁者保護法。因為這個法案,它的緣由、它的脈絡,我相信院長其實也非常的了解。從2017年四改國是會議到現在,已經整整七年的時間了。 |
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三條及第七條條文修正草案。．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議． |
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站出來吹哨 結局不法我覺得這個對於整個台灣陽光透明價值的建立至關重要那只不過說上個禮拜五的時候我們雖然提了研會的通知到晚上十二點 |
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對嘛那院長才是說這個案子要協商嘛那我們基本上當天我也是事後有跟院長報告我們原則上對於院長在主持議事的程序當中當場所做的裁決台灣民眾黨黨團原則上 |
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都是尊重的那只不過說我覺得規矩我們還是要說清楚我們上個禮拜五沒有堅持就願意讓院長再來召集協商處理吹哨者保護法的部分那今天如果因為有黨團沒有來那導致這個法案沒有辦法進入實質的協商的話我們雖然覺得很遺憾但我們也尊重因為總不能強迫人家一定要來嘛 |
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在尊重但是很遺憾的情況下我們要特別的再跟院長拜託接下來我們就會按照立法院職權行事法以及議事規則相關的規定要求院會必須要處理催少者保護法否則的話這樣一拖再拖 |
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不曉得又要再拖多久了。這個恐怕不符合整個社會的期待。我想針對臺灣民眾黨黨團特別重視的催少者保護法這件事情,要特別的跟院長做以上的報告跟請求。各位黨團幹部還有各位委員,我想大家都很多話講,但政部長跟教育部練習官員都在。我們先請政部長來表達這個我們 |
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各機關公正人士推的課程審議委員會審查會簡短扼要的報告完我們就請教育部官員來離場我們來討論這樣對教育部官員比較尊重好不好那請各位委員請聽一下我們請歡迎政務長請 |
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謝謝,謝謝院長,謝謝主席還有各位委員。主要是要跟各位委員報告,也請,敬請各位委員來支持進速的召開課程審議委員會的一個審查會。根據這個高級中等教育法,一百零五年六月一號, |
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﹐國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議． |
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今年有十七位的委員在十二月二十四號他們任期屆滿每一任都是四年每一次更換所有的委員都是要經過立法院推舉的社會公正人士由十一位到十五位的社會公正人士來組成課程審議委員會委員的審查會而且每一個委員按政黨 |
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三條及第四十三條條文修正草案。（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨團提議（國民黨團提議 |
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通過二分之一以後社會公正人士才能夠擔任我們的課程審議委員所以在這一個部分也利用今天特別謝謝院長能夠排進這個議程希望我們能夠在這個課程審議大會的非政府代表的審議這些委員的社會公正人士 |
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（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議 |
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等這些,而且他必須要過半,所以做這樣的一個補充說明。以上,謝謝院長。 |
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國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議 |
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教育部剛才也把他們的觀點講出來了當然這是依法來做個推舉相關的人員那到底是十一位到十五位到底要幾位那當然站在國民黨的立場我想這一屆的國會呢那對於說我們要推舉多少人按政黨的比例如果是十五位當然是七七一如果是十四位就七六一 |
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那正在本黨的立場我們是如果是十四位是可行的當然我們是認為用十四位來這個推舉十四位上去就是一七六一的比例來做推舉以上先跟林思明書記長報告一下這邊暫定就是七一到時候細節到時候我們等下一次正式協商的時候再因為今天是一個不完整的協商好不好 |
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另外那個黃總長我特別報告上禮拜五我們開會大概在中午只有休息十五分鐘從早開到下午散會只有休息十五分鐘這十五分鐘是什麼呢?就是主席還有一些人簡單吃點東西吃了一片披薩就繼續開會那會議就後面很順 |
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那開會所有的議程是根據國民黨、民進黨團都已經簽字了。總共十九個案子,我們全部審查完畢。我也不知道怎麼會冒出選罷法這三個字。因為選罷法都已經講好了,是下禮拜五再處理。這兩天沸沸揚揚,一直在說選罷法什麼什麼什麼,放水啊什麼,我自己都非常的迷糊。 |
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而且那天,我記得在場不管是傅根琦總召、王洪輝、林思明書記長都很清楚,大家都簽字了19個法律案要排。然後在審查的時候林思明書記長突然把15萬抽回來,就是證券交易法。最後協調完也尊重林思明書記長的決定,就剩下18個案子。全部審查完畢,我才喊休息的。 |
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我不曉得為什麼會有這麼多謠言滿天飛啊我覺得非常非常的奇怪那我們我怎麼看草野協商這是立法院各黨之間表達意見最重要的一個平台 |
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最重要的一個平台。所以我們非常尊重草野協商這個機制。但很遺憾今天民進黨因為他有一個理由他不來。其實我是覺得蠻遺憾。我希望大家能夠各黨團能夠珍惜這個草野協商這個平台。把自己的意見、把自己想要的法案、把自己的擔心或是不接受的你都在這裡發揮嘛。這樣就好啦。所以我在這邊再澄清一下。我相信林世民書記長跟王輝副書記長可以作證吧。那天你們都簽字的。那為什麼會有這些謠言呢? |
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為什麼?我覺得很奇怪。好,請黃國昌總召集。謝謝院長。上個禮拜五,兩大黨有簽了什麼東西,我老實講,我真的不是很清楚。 |
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我唯一有簽的就原住民組織法的部分那我們就簽按照那個各黨團推派代表因為這個事情其實從委員會到院會也爭執過很多次那各黨團的立場都很清楚所以上禮拜我只有針對原住民組織法的部分我有簽名簽名的理由是說各黨團派代表上去把話講清楚非常的好 |
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至於說上個禮拜五只處理哪些法案的這件事情我可以很負責任的跟院長報告我根本不知道 |
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在院長就是您休息的時候請我到後面的休息室我也很清楚的跟院長表達我希望臺灣民眾黨黨團希望的立場就是我們到底接下來要怎麼運作這件事情有一個清楚的規則讓各個黨團都可以知道我的意思是說每一個不同的黨團 |
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對自己的優先法案的順序,一定有每一個不同黨團的價值選擇。台灣民眾黨黨團有沒有我們希望排第一案的?我可以跟院長負責任的報告,有,當然有。我希望吹哨者保護法放第一案。但我也知道,台灣民眾黨黨團在立法院裡面只有八席,那也不可能事事順我的意嘛。 |
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但重點是什麼?重點是我不會因為台灣民眾黨黨團希望排第一案沒有辦法排成。我就用暴力的手段去讓其他黨團沒有辦法開會。我也不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團去提他們變更議程的案子。每一個黨團依照議事規則本來就有權利提變更議程。我不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團提變更議程。 |
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我也不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團變更議程的議案不能夠交付表決。我們當然有我們的立場。我們會提出來。如果能夠得到其他人的認可跟同意,那我們覺得非常的好,也很感謝。 |
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（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議（ |
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﹐國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議 |
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都要搞到變成是叢林法則的話,我覺得這絕對不是全體國人所樂見的。立委不僅要問政,不僅要研究法案,要去監督行政部門,你搞到立委還要去練身體,這個可能就too much了啦。因為你看我,我其實有時候看我們院內這麼多的同仁,特別是年輕的同仁,大家這麼辛苦,其實看了大家冷靜想一想,有必要嗎? |
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有必要嗎?大家有不同的看法每一個政黨依照自己的政策立場對社會負責嘛如果我今天支持的立場是台灣社會的民眾都沒有辦法接受的那一定會反映在我自己政黨會遭受到社會輿論的批判嘛民主政治本來就是這個樣子民主政治我們希望的是透過民主審議的方式而不是比拳頭的方式那否則的話我覺得院長 |
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將心比心啊我站在您的位置上我也會覺得你很辛苦啊你要主持一個簡單的會議程序都要搞到你要冒 |
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但是我相信站在您的立場,你一定不樂見嘛。你是一個堂堂的國會議長,被鎖在那個防務措施裡面,那個能看嗎?但是換另外一個角度講,那我們到底要透過什麼樣的方式,才有辦法好好的開會?當然我知道您作為國會議長,有您的難處。 |
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你也不希望每次都在槍林彈雨當中去主持會議,主持一個會議應該不用還要戴鋼盔啊。但是我要退,就是說我還是要退一步講,就是我要跟院長報告的是,上個禮拜五,接避者保護法,我必須要再重申一次台灣民眾黨團的立場,從我們的角度,該進行的法定程序已經進行完了。 |
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該進行的法定程序已經進行完了。我們在委員會裡面有詢答有公聽會有大體討論有逐條討論進了協商冷凍期 |
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委員會也召集過黨團協商,沒有辦法獲自共識。所以對台灣民眾黨黨團來講,我們最卑微的要求就是希望按照議事規則,讓這個法案有到院會處理的機會。有到院會處理的機會。那上禮拜五,院長您決定,說這個再行協商以後再來處理。老實講,從我們的角度,我們覺得很驚訝。但我也尊重院長的裁決。 |
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但是我就今天來這邊協商,我特別要講這件事情,就不能夠這樣子一拖再拖,不能夠這樣子一拖再拖,該處理的時候就應該要處理。這個是我們跟院長所做的報告跟請求。 |
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三、研商、「憲法訴訟法第三十條及第四十五條條文修正草案。（國民黨黨團提議（ |
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還有什麼好談的院長?我們等候你已經六個小時了院長。 |
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這個是有開會的牌議程的齁。請按照議程。早上的內政委員會也是很正式的開會議程。你們可以把會議搞得這樣閉門擋人。你們可以霸占主席台。你們這種孤獨的。你們怎麼能決定不來了。今天誰霸占主席台。你們這四人。我們在門外就等院長十五分鐘。 |
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請優先來處理今天上午選罷法的爭議。沒有比國會創下這種前所未有的民主支持。院長要出面解決。院長是立法院的院長,不是國民黨的院長。立法院的院長要意識中立,依立法院職權刑事法解決爭議。這是院長的職責。 |
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韓院長你縱容這樣的立法院嗎?我說過這邊開十五分鐘以後我會宣布休息到那邊去。你們在那邊可以自由表達。你現在讓他們表達。他們如期通知兩點全部坐在這裡。我一定要讓他們講話。你們現在到大櫃室我等一下會過去。早上我們在那裡排隊等開會。連進入會場的機會充滿。你遵守他們講話的權利。讓我們講話的權利在揚。 |
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十月二十一號審查玩具（然後二十四號交付協商（這是什麼立法院毀憲亂政的法案（用這種過水的協商（韓國瑜院長（你是哪一黨的院長（要再當歷史的罪人嗎（翁小玲連德國財政審查局是什麼都不懂（ |
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不管是幾十名警衛或是國民黨委員（民進黨不開門就是不開門。2011年8月1號的新聞大家回去看一下。民進黨已經創了很多例子了。 |
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民進黨創下六十年開會的會議紀錄。民進黨鎖門2011年。民進黨鎖門。沒有信我傳給我。民進黨不要再用言語暴力了齁。用論理的。大家來論理喔。 |
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五分鐘後就過去了啊,你們這樣。 |
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現在是休息嗎?休息嗎?現在的時間是政黨協商,不是不給你們十五分鐘。大家了解一下。你們不要來鬧場,民進黨連草野協商都鬧場了。創下惡意,民進黨連草野協商都要鬧場了。 |
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現在跟兩個黨團報告，因為今天上午民進黨黨團發函，表示他們今天要對內政委員會選罷法
爭議表達嚴正的抗議，所以希望本席擇期召開。 |
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但是我發的開會通知是兩點鐘，所以我一定要
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今天我們也非常感謝教育部的鄭部長，歡迎您！ |
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主席 |
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2024-12-16T14:02:25.051000+08:00 |
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2024-12-16T14:02:28.574000+08:00 |
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教育部國民及學前教育署的彭署長，熱情歡
迎！ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2024-12-16T14:02:29.755000+08:00 |
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2024-12-16T14:02:32.216000+08:00 |
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國家教育研究院的顏副院長，熱情歡迎您！ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2024-12-16T14:02:33.437000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2024-12-16T14:02:34.738000+08:00 |
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各位黨團幹部，現在民進黨沒有參加，請問一下，你們有什麼寶貴意見？請。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
林委員思銘 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-12-16T14:02:34.738000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-16T14:02:44.197000+08:00 |
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院長，我們朝野協商通知的議程已經確定了，所以我們還是敬請院長讓我們繼續協商
，把今天的議程繼續協商完畢。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.064 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2024-12-16T14:02:44.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2024-12-16T14:02:44.257000+08:00 |
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謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-12-16T14:02:44.257000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-12-16T14:03:33.773000+08:00 |
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我們是依照院長所發的開會通知來參加協商，如果因為有黨團沒有參與，
導致沒有辦法遂行的話，接下來可能要拜託院長，我們一切就按照議事規則依序的進行，這個
原則我覺得很重要，否則的話，如果我們建立起一個奇怪的規則，什麼叫奇怪的規則？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-12-16T14:03:33.773000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-12-16T14:04:01.700000+08:00 |
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就是黨
團協商我可以不要來，又再堅持說沒有經過什麼實質的討論協商，院會不能處理，這樣的話，
老實說我要癱瘓立法院的法案真的太容易了，你每次主持協商我都不來，然後用相同的理由當
作藉口，說院會不能處理，我想依照立法院職權行使法也好，依照立法院的議事規則也好，都
不是這樣解釋的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-12-16T14:04:03.892000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-12-16T14:04:18.735000+08:00 |
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我們經過一個月的協商冷凍期，有召集協商，協商沒有辦法成立，我們一
切就按照議事規則來進行，這個是台灣民眾黨黨團希望表達的立場。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-12-16T14:04:18.735000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-12-16T14:04:41.625000+08:00 |
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之前在好幾次院長召集的
協商當中，其實我們一而再再而三的跟議事人員，包括秘書長都已經確認，我們立法院職權行
使法上面所規範的議事進行程序，我覺得這個基本原則應該是滿重要的。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2024-12-16T14:04:41.745000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:13.800000+08:00 |
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協 2
第二個部分是，因為今天的協商通知好像變動了好幾次，有一個是台灣民眾黨黨團的提案，
上個禮拜五院會結束的時候，我有去請教院長，院長說叫我們趕快發通知，我也發了通知，但
怎麼今天我看到的開會通知單上面，我不曉得是不是我拿到的是舊的版本，吹哨者保護法應該
要在上面啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:16.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:16.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
第幾案？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:19.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:23.889000+08:00 |
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沒有，第六案是憲法訴訟法，所以我現在拿到的是舊的開會通知是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:26.373000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:30.678000+08:00 |
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新的第六案是公益揭弊者保護法草案。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:31.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:33.962000+08:00 |
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是啊，我現在桌上放的是舊的是不是？ |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:34.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:36.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
所以現在有新的嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:36.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-12-16T14:05:39.948000+08:00 |
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對，第一個就是課程審議會委員審查會。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-12-16T14:05:39.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-12-16T14:06:11.205000+08:00 |
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是，因為上個禮拜五的時候，我先跟院長報告了，台灣民眾黨黨團本來也有提案，說
要延長開會時間到晚上 12 點，當然對我們來講，重中之重是整個社會都非常關心的公益揭弊者
保護法，因為這個法案的緣由、脈絡，我相信院長也非常了解，從 2017 年司改國是會議到現在
已經整整 7 年的時間了。 |
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0.948 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2024-12-16T14:06:11.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-12-16T14:06:52.362000+08:00 |
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這一次在勞動部所發生的霸凌事件，整個社會上除了有關霸凌專法的
制定以外，另外一個呼聲非常強烈的，就是吹哨者保護法應該要趕快制定好，這樣最起碼讓公
部門的人在公部門裡面，遭受到一些不法侵害或是發生不法弊案的時候，能夠放心的站出來吹
哨、揭舉不法，我覺得這個對於臺灣陽光透明價值的建立至關重要。 |
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0.226 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-12-16T14:06:52.362000+08:00 |
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2024-12-16T14:07:20.844000+08:00 |
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只不過上個禮拜五，我們雖然提了延會的通知到晚上 12 點，院長裁示說這個案子要協商，基
本上，當天我事後有跟院長報告，對於院長在主持議事程序當場所做的裁決，台灣民眾黨黨團
原則上是尊重的。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-12-16T14:07:22.405000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-12-16T14:07:34.308000+08:00 |
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只不過我覺得規矩還是要說清楚，我們上個禮拜五沒有堅持，願意讓院長再
來召集協商處理吹哨者保護法。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-12-16T14:07:36.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-12-16T14:07:49.393000+08:00 |
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今天如果因為有黨團沒有來，導致這個法案沒有辦法進入實質
的協商，我們雖然覺得很遺憾，但也尊重，因為總不能強迫人家一定要來。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-12-16T14:07:50.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-12-16T14:08:07.740000+08:00 |
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在尊重但很遺憾的
情況下，我們要特別再跟院長拜託，接下來我們就會按照立法院職權行使法以及議事規則相關
規定，要求院會必須要處理吹哨者保護法。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-12-16T14:08:08.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-12-16T14:08:15.506000+08:00 |
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否則的話，這樣一拖再拖，不曉得又要再拖多久了
，這個恐怕不符合整個社會的期待。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-12-16T14:08:17.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-12-16T14:08:25.071000+08:00 |
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針對台灣民眾黨黨團特別重視吹哨者保護法這件事情，要
特別跟院長做以上的報告跟請求。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-12-16T14:08:27.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-12-16T14:08:47.583000+08:00 |
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各位黨團幹部，還有各位委員，我想大家都有很多話要講，但鄭部長跟教育部列席官員都在
，我們先請鄭部長來表達，對各黨團推舉公正人士組成課程審議會委員審查會簡短扼要報告完
，就請教育部官員離場再來討論，這樣對教育部官員比較尊重，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.856 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-12-16T14:08:48.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-12-16T14:08:50.226000+08:00 |
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請各位委員傾聽一下
，我們歡迎鄭部長，請。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-12-16T14:08:53.036000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-12-16T14:08:55.098000+08:00 |
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謝謝院長、謝謝主席，還有各位委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-12-16T14:08:55.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-12-16T14:09:03.927000+08:00 |
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主要是要跟各位委員報告，也敬請各位委員支
持儘速召開課程審議委員會審查會。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-12-16T14:09:03.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-12-16T14:09:34.370000+08:00 |
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根據高級中等教育法 105 年 6 月 1 號增訂第四十三條之一
規定，課程審議大會包含政府代表跟非政府代表，非政府代表有 36 位，每一個任期是 4 年，2
年更換一半，所以今年有 17 位委員在 12 月 24 號任期屆滿。 |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-12-16T14:09:34.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-12-16T14:09:39.021000+08:00 |
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因為每一任都是 4 年，而每一次更
換委員都經過立法院推舉社會公正人士，由 11 位到 15 位社會公正人士組成課程審議會委員的審
協 3
查會，而且按政黨比例組成，經所有的委員二分之一通過以後，這個非政府代表才能夠擔任課
程審議的委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.219 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-12-16T14:09:39.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-12-16T14:09:43.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
這個部分也特別謝謝院長今天能夠排進議程，希望課程審議大會審議委員非政府代表的社會
公正人士補足。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.156 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-12-16T14:09:43.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-12-16T14:11:00.144000+08:00 |
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依法是有 11 位到 15 位，過去歷屆都是由立法院推舉 15 位社會公正人士組成課
程審議委員會，來審查這些所謂非政府代表的學者專家等等，而且它必須要過半，所以做這樣
的一個補充說明，以上，謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.662 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:00.144000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-12-16T14:11:09.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
謝謝鄭部長跟我們教育部列席官員，很抱歉，通知各位來開會，結果我們院裡面有一些狀況
發生，請鄭部長和各位教育部官員請先離席，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:09.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-12-16T14:11:18.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
好，非常感謝大家。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:18.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-12-16T14:11:28.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:28.092000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-16T14:11:37.408000+08:00 |
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好，再次感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:37.408000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-12-16T14:11:46.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
剛才教育部部長所報告的部分，下一次我們再討論這部分的時候，讓我們已經更先行了解了
，所以也是很有幫助的。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:46.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-12-16T14:11:56.040000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
官員離席之後，我們就繼續來協商一些事情，請國民黨黨團表達意見，請。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.172 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
林委員思銘 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-12-16T14:11:56.040000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-12-16T14:12:06.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
好，院長，我想教育部剛剛也把他們的觀點講出來了，當然，這是依法來推舉相關的
人員，至於 11 位到 15 位，到底要幾位？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.822 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
林委員思銘 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-12-16T14:12:07.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-12-16T14:12:21.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
當然站在國民黨的立場，我想這一屆的國會對於我們要
推舉多少人，按政黨的比例，如果是 15 位，當然 7、7、1；如果是 14 位，就 7、6、1。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
林委員思銘 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-12-16T14:12:24.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-12-16T14:12:37.244000+08:00 |
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站在本
黨的立場，如果 14 位是可行的，當然我們是認為推舉 14 位上去，就是依 7、6、1 的比例來做
推舉，以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-12-16T14:12:38.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-12-16T14:12:49.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
先跟林思銘書記長報告一下，這邊暫定就是 7、7、1，細節到時候我們等下一次正式協商的
時候再討論，因為今天算是一個不完整的協商，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-12-16T14:12:50.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-12-16T14:13:02.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
另外，黃總召，我特別報告，上禮拜五我們開會，大概中午只有休息 15 分鐘，從早開到下午
散會，只有休息 15 分鐘，這 15 分鐘是什麼呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-12-16T14:13:03.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-12-16T14:13:07.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
就是主席還有一些人簡單吃點東西，我就吃了
一片披薩，再繼續開會，會議後面就很順。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-12-16T14:13:11.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:01.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
開會所有的議程是根據國民黨、民進黨黨團都已經
簽字了，總共十幾個案子，我們全部審查完畢，我也不知道怎麼會冒出選罷法這三個字，因為
選罷法都已經講好了，是下禮拜五再處理，這兩天沸沸揚揚，一直在說選罷法什麼、什麼、放
水啊什麼的，我自己都非常的迷糊，尤其那天我記得在場不管是傅崐萁總召、王鴻薇、林思銘
書記長都很清楚，大家都簽字了，十幾個法律案要排，然後在審查的時候，林思銘書記長突然
把第十五案抽回來，就是證券交易法，最後協調完，也尊重林思銘書記長的決定，就剩下 18 個
案子，全部審查完畢，我才喊休息的，我不曉得為什麼會有這麼多謠言滿天飛，我覺得非常非
常的奇怪。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:03.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:04.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我怎麼看朝野協商？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:05.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:08.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這是立法院各黨之間表達意見最重要的一個平台！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:11.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:28.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
所以我們非常尊重朝
野協商這個機制，但很遺憾，今天民進黨因為有個理由他們不來，其實我是覺得滿遺憾，我希
望大家、各黨團能夠珍惜朝野協商這個平台，把自己的意見、把自己想要的法案、把自己的擔
心或者不接受，你都在這裡發揮嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:29.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:34.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
這樣就好了，所以我在這邊再澄清一下，我相信林思銘書
記長跟王鴻薇副書記長可以作證吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:34.815000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:37.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
那天你們都簽字的，為什麼會有這些謠言？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:38.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:39.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:39.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:40.230000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
我覺
協 4
得很奇怪。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:41.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-12-16T14:14:41.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
好，請黃國昌總召。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-12-16T14:14:44.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-12-16T14:15:22.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
謝謝院長，就上個禮拜五兩大黨有簽了什麼東西，我老實講，我真的不是很清楚，我
唯一有簽的就是原住民組織法的部分，我們就簽按照各黨團推派代表，因為這個事情其實從委
員會到院會也爭執過很多次，各黨團的立場都很清楚，所以上禮拜我只有針對原住民組織法的
部分，我有簽名，簽名的理由是說各黨團派代表上去把話講清楚，非常地好。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-12-16T14:15:23.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-12-16T14:15:53.515000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
至於上個禮拜五
只處理哪些法案的這一件事情，我可以很負責任的跟院長報告，我根本不知道，在院長您休息
的時候，請我到後面的休息室，我也很清楚地跟院長表達，我希望，台灣民眾黨黨團希望的立
場就是我們到底接下來要怎麼運作這件事情，有一個清楚的規則，讓各個黨團都可以知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-12-16T14:15:56.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-12-16T14:16:13.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我
的意思是說，每一個不同的黨團對自己優先法案的順序，一定有每一個不同黨團的價值選擇，
台灣民眾黨黨團有沒有我們希望排第一案的？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-12-16T14:16:13.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-12-16T14:16:29.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我可以跟院長負責任的報告，有，當然有，我希
望吹哨者保護法放第一案，但我也知道台灣民眾黨黨團在立法院只有 8 席，不可能事事順我的
意，但重點是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-12-16T14:16:29.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-12-16T14:16:45.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
重點是我不會因為台灣民眾黨黨團希望排第一案的沒有辦法排成，就用暴
力手段去讓其他黨團沒有辦法開會，我也不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團提他們變更議程的
案子。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-12-16T14:16:45.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-12-16T14:17:09.933000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
每一個黨團依照議事規則，本來就有權利提變更議程，我不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他
黨團提變更議程，我也不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團變更議程的議案交付表決；我們當然
有我們的立場，我們會提出來，如果能夠得到其他人的認可跟同意，那我們覺得非常的好，也
很感謝，如果沒有辦法順我們的意，那也就沒有辦法順我們的意了，因為畢竟我們只有 8 席，
但我們可以藉由我們優先法案的順序，去彰顯我們政黨的立場、我們政黨的價值，但我沒有辦
法強迫其他黨團接受一定要按照我們的方式來排案。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.567 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-12-16T14:17:49.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-12-16T14:17:55.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
上個禮拜五的時候，院長您希望我過去交換一些意見，我其實也很負責任的跟院長說明了這
樣的狀況，因為從立法院實際上的運作來講，如果每一次都要搞到變成是叢林法則的話，我覺
得這絕對不是全體國人所樂見的。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.322 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-12-16T14:17:56.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-12-16T14:18:05.674000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
立委不僅要問政，要研究法案，要監督行政部門，但如果搞
到立委還要去練身體，這可能就 too much 了。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-12-16T14:18:08.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-12-16T14:18:17.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
我其實有時候看我們院內這麼多同仁，特別是年
輕的同仁，大家這麼辛苦，但大家冷靜想一想，有必要嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-12-16T14:18:18.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-12-16T14:18:19.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
有必要嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-12-16T14:18:19.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-12-16T14:18:24.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
大家有不同的看法，每
一個政黨依照自己的政策立場對社會負責嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-12-16T14:18:25.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-12-16T14:18:59.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
如果今天我們支持的立場是臺灣社會的民眾都沒
有辦法接受的，那一定會反映在我自己的政黨會遭受到社會輿論的批判，民主政治本來就是這
樣子，民主政治，我們希望的是透過民主審議的方式，而不是比拳頭的方式，否則的話，我將
心比心，站在院長您的位子上，我也會覺得您很辛苦，主持一個簡單的會議程序，都要搞到冒
很大的人身安全風險，這不是一個正常的方式。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.822 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-12-16T14:18:59.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-12-16T14:19:22.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
其實今天臺灣的國會，你也可以把它搞得很安全，但未必很好看，什麼叫很安全卻未必很好
看？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.026 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-12-16T14:19:22.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-12-16T14:19:33.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們就在主席臺上面架防護措施，但是我相信站在您的立場，您一定不樂見，您是一個堂
堂的國會議長，被鎖在那個防護措施裡，能看嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.691 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-12-16T14:19:33.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2024-12-16T14:19:41.660000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
但換另外一個角度講，我們到底要透過什麼
樣的方式才有辦法好好開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-12-16T14:19:41.660000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-12-16T14:20:43.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
當然，我知道您作為國會議長有您的難處，您也不希望每次都在
槍林彈雨當中主持會議，主持一個會議應該也不用戴鋼盔，但是我還是要退一步講，我要跟院
協 5
長報告，上個禮拜五揭弊者保護法，我必須再重申一次台灣民眾黨黨團的立場，從我們的角度
來看，該踐行的法定程序已經踐行完了，我們在委員會裡有詢答、有公聽會、有大體討論、有
逐條討論，也進了協商冷凍期，委員會也召集過黨團協商，但沒有辦法獲致共識，所以對台灣
民眾黨黨團來講，我們最卑微的要求，就是希望按照議事規則讓這個法案有到院會處理的機會
。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-12-16T14:20:45.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-12-16T14:20:58.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
上禮拜五當院長您決定再行協商後再來處理時，老實講，從我們的角度我們覺得很驚訝，但
我也尊重院長的裁決。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-12-16T14:20:59.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:13.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
但是我今天來這邊協商，我特別要講這件事情，就不能夠這樣子一拖再
拖，該處理的時候就應該要處理，這是我們跟院長所做的報告跟請求。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:13.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:16.726021+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
會議無效，中止協商！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:16.726021+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:19.648043+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
會議無效，中止協商！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:19.648043+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:22.570064+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
院長，這個協商該中止了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:22.570064+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:25.492085+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
有比你們早上不讓我們進會場開會鴨霸嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:25.492085+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:28.414106+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
不要來鬧場…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:28.414106+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:31.336128+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
誰鴨霸？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:31.336128+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:34.258149+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
會議無效！ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:34.258149+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:37.180170+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
立法院…… |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:37.180170+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:40.102191+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
怎麼會議無效？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:40.102191+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:43.024213+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
你不來開會就會議無效喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:43.024213+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:45.946234+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
我們不能進到會場開會…… |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:45.946234+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:48.868255+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
你不來開會就無效喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:48.868255+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:51.790277+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我們沒有發生過，這是國會之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:51.790277+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:54.712298+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
你不要再造謠了…… |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:54.712298+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2024-12-16T14:21:57.634319+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
會議無效，國會之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2024-12-16T14:21:57.634319+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:00.556340+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
你們現在是封鎖國會嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:00.556340+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:03.478362+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
是在國會搞戒嚴嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:03.478362+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:06.400383+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
我們現在在國會各委員會…… |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:06.400383+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:09.322404+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
封鎖國會，可以不讓立委進會場開會嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:09.322404+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:12.244426+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
會議無效！ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:12.244426+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:15.166447+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
可以不要來鬧場嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:15.166447+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:18.088468+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
可以不要來鬧場嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:18.088468+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:21.010489+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
這是國會之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:21.010489+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:23.932511+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
現在在開會…… |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:23.932511+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:26.854532+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
主席請履行你的承諾…… |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:26.854532+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:29.776553+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
等一下再討論，現在…… |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:29.776553+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:32.698574+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
民進黨已經發函今天的協商擇期再議…… |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:32.698574+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:35.620596+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
不要來鬧場啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:35.620596+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:38.542617+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
不要來鬧場！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:38.542617+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:41.464638+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
今天的協商擇期再議，我們等候院長一整個早上，院長神隱，院長應當來善後，有關
今天選罷法的內政委員會會議無效，封閉國會的行為院長要善後，院長我們等候您！ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:41.464638+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:44.386660+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
黃捷說你們昨天晚上 9 點就在內政委員會了，你們昨天晚上 9 點就進來了！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:44.386660+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:47.308681+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
那你什麼時候進來的？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:47.308681+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:50.230702+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
那我們就在院長室等候您回來善後。協 6 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:50.230702+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:53.152723+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
你們去等啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:53.152723+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:56.074745+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
要開會啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:56.074745+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2024-12-16T14:22:58.996766+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
這個有開會時間的啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2024-12-16T14:22:58.996766+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:01.918787+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
有開會時間還能鎖鐵門啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:01.918787+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:04.840809+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
來，看黃捷寫的：我們在內政委員會捍衛人民罷免權絕不…… |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:04.840809+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:07.762830+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
從來沒有立法院閉門開會、鎖門開會、擋人開會…… |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:07.762830+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:10.684851+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
昨天晚上黃捷的 IG…… |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:10.684851+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:13.606872+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
這是會國之恥，從來沒有發生過，還敢在那裡振振有詞！ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:13.606872+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:16.528894+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
黃捷的 IG…… |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:16.528894+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:19.450915+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
從來沒有發生過這種狀況，還敢振振有詞！ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:19.450915+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:22.372936+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
你不是昨天…… |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:22.372936+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:25.294957+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
鎖門開會，擋人開會，民主之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:25.294957+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:28.216979+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
民主之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:28.216979+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:31.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
民主之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:31.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:31.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
國民黨實質戒嚴！ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:31.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:32.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
國會之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:32.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:33.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
民主之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:33.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:34.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
會議無效！ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:34.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:35.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
韓院長要散會！ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2024-12-16T14:23:34.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2024-12-16T14:23:34.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
國民黨實質戒嚴！ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:00.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:00.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
國民黨搞一言堂！ |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:00.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:02.743667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
國民黨沒收人民罷免權！ |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:02.743667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:04.735333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
韓院長要解決！ |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:04.735333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:06.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
依立法院職權行使法，韓院長要解決爭議！ |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.059 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:06.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:07.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
國民黨不敢面對！ |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:07.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:08.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
不敢面對！ |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:07.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2024-12-16T14:24:07.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
國民黨怕罷免！ |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2024-12-16T14:24:07.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2024-12-16T14:25:09.304500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
不要來鬧場，趕快去！ |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2024-12-16T14:25:09.304500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:11.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
不要來這邊鬧場！ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:11.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:11.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
還有什麼好談的，院長？ |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:11.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:12.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
上一次是綠的來，白的沒來，我有讓綠的發言，……他們到了，我就讓他們發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:11.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:13.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
我們等候您已經 6 個小時了，院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:13.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:37.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
我們等候您 6 個小時。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:37.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:37.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
這個是有開會，有排議場的喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:39.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:39.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
請按照議程！ |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:39.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:40.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
不要來鬧場喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:39.851000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:47.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
早上的內政委員會也是有正式的開會議程，你們可以把會議搞得這樣閉門擋人…… |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:48.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:49.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
你們霸占主席臺！ |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:50.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:50.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
你們這種國會之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:50.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:51.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].text |
國會之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:51.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:52.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
吳造謠！ |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:51.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:53.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
你們昨天 9 點就來了！ |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:54.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2024-12-16T14:26:56.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].text |
今天誰霸占主席臺？ |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2024-12-16T14:26:59.289000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:02.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
我們在門外等院長 15 分鐘！ |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:02.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:05.596778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].text |
今天是我們，前面你們也有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:05.596778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:08.842556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].text |
沒有鎖鐵門的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:08.842556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[153].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:12.088333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].text |
你們鎖大門可以喲？ |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:12.088333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:15.334111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].text |
你們鎖大門可以喲？ |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:15.334111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:18.579889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
凡事都有第一次，你們沒有喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[155].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:18.579889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:21.825667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].text |
對付你們剛剛好而已啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:21.825667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:25.071444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].text |
剛剛好而已啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:25.071444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:28.317222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].text |
叫什麼！ |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:28.317222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:31.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].text |
謝謝，謝謝王鴻薇首席副書記長，請坐，請坐下來…… |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:31.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:34.808778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
好啦，我們趕快開啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:34.808778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:38.054556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].text |
他們不開，來鬧場，我們趕快開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:38.054556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:41.300333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].text |
第二案…… |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:41.300333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:44.546111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
不要鬧、不要鬧！ |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:44.546111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:47.791889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
我們趕快把它開完。 |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:47.791889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:51.037667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].text |
第二案，來，司法及法制…… |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
0.111 |
| transcript.gazette[166].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[166].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:51.037667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[166].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:54.283444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].text |
上一次我們開會通知在議場的 3 樓，然後民進黨到，那天是藍軍沒有到，所以我一定請民進
黨發言，發言完畢之後散會。 |
| transcript.gazette[166].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[167].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[167].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:54.283444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[167].end |
2024-12-16T14:27:57.529222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].text |
今天是反過來，民進黨來，不參加，國民黨跟台灣民眾黨都到了
現場，所以你們發言完以後，我們也是會散會。 |
| transcript.gazette[167].quality |
0.093 |
| transcript.gazette[168].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[168].start |
2024-12-16T14:27:57.529222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[168].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:00.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].text |
所以請問各位委員，還有誰要表達意見？ |
| transcript.gazette[168].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[169].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[169].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:00.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[169].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:04.020778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].text |
現在第二案嘛，第二案了。 |
| transcript.gazette[169].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[170].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[170].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:04.020778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[170].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:07.266556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].text |
綜合性，我們就一案、一案把它討論、協商，如果民進黨
要放棄他們協商的權利，我們沒有辦法啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[170].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[171].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[171].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:07.266556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[171].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:10.512333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].text |
主席，針對第三案，因為我是財政委員會的召委，
我跟主席、跟各位報告，財政委員會已經開過很多次會，讓他們充分發言…… |
| transcript.gazette[171].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[172].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[172].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:10.512333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[172].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:13.758111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].text |
建議民進黨黨團到會客室，15 分鐘以後我過去，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[172].quality |
0.238 |
| transcript.gazette[173].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[173].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:13.758111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[173].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:17.003889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].text |
已經講清楚了…… |
| transcript.gazette[173].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[174].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[174].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:17.003889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[174].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:20.249667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].text |
對，我們趕快。 |
| transcript.gazette[174].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[175].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[175].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:20.249667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[175].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:23.495444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].text |
我就講財政委員會已經開過很多次會，所以既然民進黨也不打算…… |
| transcript.gazette[175].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[176].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[176].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:23.495444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[176].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:26.741222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].text |
3 分鐘審議通過財劃法叫做開過很多次會？ |
| transcript.gazette[176].quality |
0.059 |
| transcript.gazette[177].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[177].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:26.741222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[177].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:29.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].text |
已經有第五輪、第六輪的發言，有第五輪、第六輪的發言，然後讓民進黨委員發言…… |
| transcript.gazette[177].quality |
0.062 |
| transcript.gazette[178].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[178].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:29.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[178].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:33.232778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].text |
3 分鐘送出委員會的財劃法，哪裡有開會？ |
| transcript.gazette[178].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[179].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[179].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:33.232778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[179].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:36.478556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].text |
哪裡有討論？主席…… |
| transcript.gazette[179].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[180].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[180].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:36.478556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[180].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:39.724333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].text |
好啦、好啦，我們開會，開會協商，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[180].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[181].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[181].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:39.724333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[181].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:42.970111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].text |
等一下到那邊你們來表達意見，現在先讓他們表達一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[181].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[182].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[182].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:42.970111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[182].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:46.215889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].text |
要表達意見就坐下來，你現在坐下來啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[182].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[183].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[183].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:46.215889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[183].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:49.461667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].text |
院長，今天我們已經正式發函…… |
| transcript.gazette[183].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[184].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[184].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:49.461667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[184].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:52.707444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].text |
今天你們臨時變更議程，連協商的議程都要搞偷襲，這樣子的協商、這樣子的臨時變
更議程，我們要表達嚴正的抗議！ |
| transcript.gazette[184].quality |
0.106 |
| transcript.gazette[185].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[185].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:52.707444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[185].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:55.953222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].text |
不要一直造謠！ |
| transcript.gazette[185].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[186].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[186].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:55.953222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[186].end |
2024-12-16T14:28:59.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].text |
繼續、繼續啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[186].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[187].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[187].start |
2024-12-16T14:28:59.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[187].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:03.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].text |
請優先來處理今天上午選罷法的爭議…… |
| transcript.gazette[187].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[188].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[188].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:03.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[188].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:04.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].text |
要討論就請坐下來。 |
| transcript.gazette[188].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[189].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[189].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:03.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[189].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:08.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].text |
沒有比國會創下這種前所未有的民主之恥…… |
| transcript.gazette[189].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[190].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[190].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:08.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[190].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:09.843000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].text |
這是民進黨的民主之恥！ |
| transcript.gazette[190].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[191].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[191].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:09.843000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[191].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:11.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].text |
院長要出面解決！ |
| transcript.gazette[191].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[192].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[192].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:11.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[192].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:12.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].text |
陳玉珍，你才是民主之恥，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[192].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[193].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[193].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:11.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[193].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:16.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].text |
院長是立法院的院長，不是國民黨的院長！ |
| transcript.gazette[193].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[194].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[194].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:16.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[194].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:17.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].text |
對，游錫堃也是立法院的院長，不是民進黨的院長！ |
| transcript.gazette[194].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[195].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[195].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:16.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[195].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:19.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].text |
立法院的院長要議事中立，依立法院職權行使法解決爭議，這是院長的職責！ |
| transcript.gazette[195].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[196].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[196].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:19.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[196].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:22.949700+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].text |
吳思瑤幹事長，他們現在照著這個議程發表 15 分鐘左右的談話，讓他們講，好不好？協 8 |
| transcript.gazette[196].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[197].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[197].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:22.949700+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[197].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:26.733400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].text |
這個議程算數嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[197].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[198].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[198].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:26.733400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[198].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:30.517100+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].text |
臨時變更議程算數嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[198].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[199].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[199].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:30.517100+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[199].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:34.300800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].text |
來不來是你們的權利。 |
| transcript.gazette[199].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[200].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[200].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:34.300800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[200].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:38.084500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].text |
臨時變更議程算數嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[200].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[201].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[201].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:38.084500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[201].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:41.868200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].text |
完全不算數的議程！ |
| transcript.gazette[201].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[202].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[202].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:41.868200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[202].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:45.651900+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].text |
就是建議說因為財劃法已經通過，看起來行政部門覺得好像沒有要提出來，我們就按
照議事規則往下處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[202].quality |
0.045 |
| transcript.gazette[203].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[203].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:45.651900+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[203].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[203].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:49.435600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[203].text |
以上，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[203].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[204].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[204].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:49.435600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[204].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:53.219300+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].text |
3 分鐘的財劃法可以這樣討論、協商？ |
| transcript.gazette[204].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[205].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[205].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:53.219300+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[205].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[205].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:57.003000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[205].text |
1 分鐘的選罷法可以這樣送出委員會？ |
| transcript.gazette[205].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[206].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[206].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:57.003000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[206].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[206].end |
2024-12-16T14:29:59.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[206].text |
韓院長
，你縱容這樣的立法院嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[206].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[207].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[207].start |
2024-12-16T14:29:59.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[207].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:10.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].text |
我說過這邊開 15 分鐘以後，我會宣布休息到那邊去，你們在那邊可以自由表達，你現在讓
他們表達，他們如期通知 2 點，全部坐在這裡，我一定要讓他們講話。 |
| transcript.gazette[207].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[208].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[208].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:10.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[208].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:12.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].text |
你們現在到大會議室，
我等一下會過去…… |
| transcript.gazette[208].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[209].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[209].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:12.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[209].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[209].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:15.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[209].text |
早上我們在那裡排隊等開會，連進入會場的機會都沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[209].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[210].speaker |
陳委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[210].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:15.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[210].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:16.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].text |
請尊重主席，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[210].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[211].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[211].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:16.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[211].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[211].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:18.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[211].text |
你尊重他們講話的權利，那我們講話的權利在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[211].quality |
0.762 |
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吳委員思瑤 |
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2024-12-16T14:30:18.298000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-16T14:30:21.621937+08:00 |
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你尊重他們講話的權利，我們連
進入會場的機會都沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[212].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[213].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
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2024-12-16T14:30:21.621937+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-16T14:30:24.945875+08:00 |
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現在是另外一個會！ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[214].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
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2024-12-16T14:30:24.945875+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[214].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-16T14:30:28.269812+08:00 |
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現在是另外一個會！ |
| transcript.gazette[214].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[215].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[215].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:28.269812+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[215].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[215].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:31.593750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[215].text |
我們的權利在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[215].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[216].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[216].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:31.593750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[216].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:34.917687+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].text |
人民的權利在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[216].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[217].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[217].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:34.917687+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[217].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[217].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:38.241625+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[217].text |
人民的權利在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[217].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[218].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
| transcript.gazette[218].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:38.241625+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[218].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[218].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:41.565562+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[218].text |
我可以跟院長報告第二案嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[218].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[219].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[219].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:41.565562+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[219].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[219].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:44.889500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[219].text |
我們今天上午連進入會議室的機會都沒有，院長，您同意這樣子的會議嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[219].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[220].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[220].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:44.889500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[220].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[220].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:48.213438+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[220].text |
你已經講好多次，你等一下還會再講，你先讓他們表達…… |
| transcript.gazette[220].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[221].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[221].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:48.213438+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[221].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[221].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:51.537375+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[221].text |
因為你不聽啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[221].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[222].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[222].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:51.537375+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[222].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[222].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:54.861313+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[222].text |
你聽不懂啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[222].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[223].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[223].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:54.861313+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[223].end |
2024-12-16T14:30:58.185250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].text |
你不敢處理啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[223].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[224].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[224].start |
2024-12-16T14:30:58.185250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[224].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[224].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:01.509188+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[224].text |
我 15 分鐘以後會過去，我有講過，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[224].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[225].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
| transcript.gazette[225].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:01.509188+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[225].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:04.833125+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].text |
現在報告第二案，第二案主要是憲法訴訟法第四條、第三十條、第四十三條、第九十
五條的修正…… |
| transcript.gazette[225].quality |
0.026 |
| transcript.gazette[226].speaker |
沈委員伯洋 |
| transcript.gazette[226].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:04.833125+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[226].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:08.157063+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].text |
他們準時來就可以發言，我們準時來就不能發言喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[226].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[227].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
| transcript.gazette[227].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:08.157063+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[227].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:11.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].text |
因為這些條文都已經在 10 月 21 日審查完竣，24 日交付協商，現在已經過了委員會
的協商期…… |
| transcript.gazette[227].quality |
0.206 |
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吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[228].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:11.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[228].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[228].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:12.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[228].text |
這是什麼立法院！ |
| transcript.gazette[228].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[229].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[229].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:13.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[229].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[229].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:14.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[229].text |
毀憲亂政的法案用這種過水的協商，用這種過水的協商…… |
| transcript.gazette[229].quality |
0.652 |
| transcript.gazette[230].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
| transcript.gazette[230].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:14.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[230].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[230].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:15.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[230].text |
因為這個案子很重要，在程序上面都已經完成…… |
| transcript.gazette[230].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[231].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[231].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:15.164000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[231].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[231].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:17.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[231].text |
韓國瑜院長，你是哪一黨的院長？ |
| transcript.gazette[231].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[232].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[232].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:17.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[232].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[232].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:19.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[232].text |
要再當歷史的罪人嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[232].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[233].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
| transcript.gazette[233].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:19.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[233].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:20.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].text |
所以今天進行政黨協商，希望這個案子能夠順利…… |
| transcript.gazette[233].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[234].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[234].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:19.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[234].end |
2024-12-16T14:31:21.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].text |
翁曉玲連德國的憲法法庭是什麼都不懂！協 9 |
| transcript.gazette[234].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[235].speaker |
翁委員曉玲 |
| transcript.gazette[235].start |
2024-12-16T14:31:21.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[235].end |
2024-12-16T14:32:54.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].text |
吳思瑤…… |
| transcript.gazette[235].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[236].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[236].start |
2024-12-16T14:32:54.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[236].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[236].end |
2024-12-16T14:32:54.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[236].text |
現在在開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[236].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[237].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[237].start |
2024-12-16T14:32:54.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[237].end |
2024-12-16T14:32:55.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].text |
我們早上的會議權利有被尊重嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[237].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[238].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[238].start |
2024-12-16T14:32:55.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[238].end |
2024-12-16T14:32:56.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].text |
（現場一片混亂） |
| transcript.gazette[238].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[239].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[239].start |
2024-12-16T14:32:56.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[239].end |
2024-12-16T14:33:23.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].text |
我們再休息 10 分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[239].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[240].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[240].start |
2024-12-16T14:34:03.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[240].end |
2024-12-16T14:34:09.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].text |
休息（14 時 31 分）
繼續開會（14 時 40 分） |
| transcript.gazette[240].quality |
0.3 |
| transcript.gazette[241].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[241].start |
2024-12-16T14:34:11.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[241].end |
2024-12-16T14:34:23.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].text |
好，我們朝野協商今天就散會。 |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[242].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[242].start |
2024-12-16T14:34:24.486000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[242].end |
2024-12-16T14:34:25.628857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].text |
散會（14 時 40 分） |
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0 |