| IVOD_ID |
163569 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163569 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-20T09:45:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-20T10:00:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3feaef107a98f0c980161bd1f5b420c50ed9bbdce0c549623ec43f272543ec196511449ee88a32a45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:45:25 - 10:00:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長就「協助中小企業災後復原辦理情況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 我們請部長部長 |
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台南是重災區所以我待會問的問題是非常直接的也拜託部長要看怎麼處理因為我們已經問了很多輪了昨天我也跟卓院長 |
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懇求拜托就是我们在所有石棉瓦的处理那当然石棉瓦的处理家户跟我们的畜牧场现在都有处理畜牧场是由农业部来做补助 |
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但是我們目前廠房的屋頂石棉瓦廢棄物的清理目前完全沒有看到我們經濟部有任何的作為那當然昨天卓院長有說要用我們的特別條例裡面的環境清理這個區塊來協助可是我們擔心他的預算會不夠 |
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我們這樣清一清弄一弄我問了我們台南市環保局他說會有五萬噸很嚇人 |
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那問題是我們如果沒有分門別類由各個單位組織單位去做協助的話我相信我們特別預算這筆錢一定不夠部長是不是可以請命一下我們廠房的屋頂石棉襪還有廢棄物我們的中小企業署是不是可以來協助做一些補貼讓他們有感 |
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因為到目前為止我們看了經濟部所有協助中小企業災後復原的部分其實我們琢磨的並沒有很多所以這個區塊我們可不可以加強一下部長 |
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是 报告委员我想经济部在这个受灾区的协助措施我们大概分成三个部分第一个部分是对民众的部分也就是说他的家的这个部分淹水的救助金我们大概每户就会给到最高四万块钱那么中低收入户每户会到五万块钱然后第二个是对制造业制造业里面包括园区内跟园区外的厂商 |
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我们补助它生产设备在场域复原每家最高20万补助节能设备每一个案补助20到40个%那么每家最高到500万集团到1500万那补助动力设备每kW补助700到5000元每家最高500万连营业额1亿元以上者补助1500万 |
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那麼對災害復工的貸款我們對公告災區的業者提供利息的補貼最高是50萬元那麼貸款的金額我現在在爭取在爭取應該會得到這個同意也就是說第一年是免息 |
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部長我知道你們有做但是我的重點不是在這一塊我知道你們有做你們對於家戶的淹水是由你們來支出的我知道我們經濟部隊中小企業我們也有20萬的設備補助我們也知道 |
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然後針對一些節能的部分有協助我們也知道可是你知道現在中小企業在我們災區大家最痛的是哪一塊就是屋頂石棉花跟廢棄物的清理在這一區區塊你們沒有幫助到 |
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畜牧場他們有農業部喔他們都有做一些協助的方式可是我們在中小企業這一塊經濟部是沒有的所以我剛剛才會跟你請命在這個區塊可不可以增加院長有說要用特別條例裡面的特別預算可是我看我們目前台南市的量光10棉瓦 |
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这些数字就没有办法支撑了所以是不是我们经济部可以在这个区块来帮忙一下来协助一下报告委员我想清理的部分我们所协调的公班他们都愿意帮忙都愿意帮忙不是是这些实名网我要怎么来做清理不是公班的问题是我要我今天清理出来之后 |
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我太空包一堆一堆因為石棉瓦它是有毒的物質它不能隨便丟所以我們不要造成二次傷害所以在石棉瓦的部分一堆一堆的太空包我們要怎麼幫它來清理這些 |
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报告委员我们会马上跟前进指挥所就委员所关注的这个命题快速讨论希望能够得到一个快速解决因为这个必须要跟地方政府来共同协作所以我们会把这个放在最优先讨论的命题台南市政府因为我来自台南我知道的是台南市政府我们问过他没有量能而且没有经费这才是重点 |
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那你的经费在哪里你根本没有补助这些中小企业这些厂房他们可以去处理这些失眠法的费用这非常恐怖这预算非常恐怖不是你补助20万他的设备我就用这个照片给你看那整间密密冒冒 |
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大家自己都一心都自己要顧好自己大家都知道可是你這個石棉碗因為它不能亂丟它不能造成二次傷害所以我覺得我們一定要把這個命題 |
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把它當成一個重點所以部長這個是不是可以拜託一下我馬上處理我們會從官認定不是從官認定你們根本沒有補助啊我們會把它在其他的項目裡面拜託一下這個很重要否則它就一堆一堆在那裡啊我們會馬上處理請求環保局說環保局說沒有啊你們中小企業沒補助啊 |
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我們會馬上處理好 再麻煩然後第二個就是我們在任性特別條例裡面有一個叫強化電力系統我要問這個強化電力系統它所代表的是什麼大家知道我在7月7號看了那麼多2000多支的電感在台南市整個倒成一片 |
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我已經說了要拜託我們經濟部要盡快提出如何電能地下化如何加強我們的韌性那請問這個強化電力系統有包含這個區塊嗎有嗎我可不可以請台電公司跟您報告沒問題我大概就簡單的跟委員報告主要有兩塊一個就是主幹線的地下化我們在 |
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有嗎有包括這個部分嗎我說在我們任性特別條例這個200億的部分要強化電力系統的這個區塊有嗎那個200億裡面有包括產業園區的也有包括一般的我們講的現在既有的道路的那個改遷地下化的也有這個加強我們整個電網維護的所以這有200億那我想這一定不夠 |
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所以我們每年在我們經濟部到底我們要怎麼再編列預算去做加強所以我已經說我昨天在行政院在做質詢的時候我就說了如果有誰擋這個預算請他來摘去看倒了兩千多隻的電感光台南市這個是一定要做因為對於極端氣候沒有人可以保證 |
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哪一天一個丹納斯颱風它是青苔而已就把台南搞成這個狀態 |
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沒有人敢預估這種極端氣候的狀態所以強化電力系統這個一定要過也一定要做我們再拜託台電盡快把這200億到底你要做在哪幾個產業園區然後要做在哪幾個主幹道我強調我們要從主幹道先做 |
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主幹道你主幹道再牽引進來這一次我們所有都是在主幹道所以為什麼花的時間要那麼長主幹道要接進來再接近家戶是 巴偉我們那個分年跟這個相關做的地區我們都會把它列出來 |
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拜託 我要這個計畫我要這個計畫拜託送到我辦公室然後再來就是剛剛部長有說的你們有在協調我們銀行端是不是在利息的部分或是用我們補貼的部分來做處理部長我們的利益都非常好可是 |
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在銀行的部分當然你要補貼他很開心啊可是光在所謂的災後復工的貸款他們就有很多的問題了他們會提出很多的門檻去把所有的工廠做一個束縛這個一定你們不知道 |
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所以我認為你們的單一窗口一定要出來單一窗口一定要出來你叫所有的企業自己去找銀行端是不是我們有單一窗口來 部長是 報告委員 我們是有單一窗口而且我們的行動服務網現在是早上在家裡區公所 |
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然後下午到各個災區去訪視解決這個受災戶他們的問題然後我們就是單一窗口我們的馬上辦中心就是單一窗口那你們的單一窗口可以跟銀行端溝通嗎可以如果銀行端用了很多的條件來束縛的話我們就是協調我們會馬上協調處理 |
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可以嗎 可以那我是不是請署長當天在我們開座談會的時候經濟委員會下去開座談會的時候那三家廠商已經都溝通好了嗎我請署長回答 |
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跟委員說明那三家廠商那個麻豆區這一家因為是新增的貸款所以我們現在在協調當中江津區的這家公司是旧貸的展延所以我們也跟他既有的這個行庫也全力在協調目前都進展而且旧貸展延我們把這個他的需要的受災證明也開出來了 |
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所以这个都全力在协调那另外雪甲区这些厂商因为它是属于大企业所以我们也把这个适用大企业的规范跟它告知所以这个我们入案的我们包含在这个从这个行动办公室行动服务团成立以来所有入案包含是直接打进我们马上办服务中心所有的案件我们全部都有入案在处理有 有入案我觉得要把这样的一个单一窗口宣传出去否则每一次我们 |
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通過的預算或通過的專案都是在銀行端做了一個組閣的動作所以這個很重要再來部長我再請教一下因為我們現在經濟部除了有中小企業的協助加護淹水的協助其實還有一個叫水利署的治水預算對不對 |
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我想 我要拜託部長現在我們要利用災後特別條例來協助進行地方治水工程但是辦法還沒出來好 辦法還沒出來 這個要快我想8月2號當天台南市光安南區就淹了一整天我在地方我浸水浸了幾天而且雨就流下白水我把整個 |
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從頭到尾涉水去了解問題出在哪裡所以這裡有四個關鍵瓶頸如果這個四個關鍵瓶頸突破了那麼六塊寮排水我們花了那麼多錢好幾十億的部分才有效他哪一個六塊寮排水的上游要做分流規劃設計因為他從安定下來這次我們的安定是我們8月2號全台南 |
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所有我們的雨量最多的區所以安定整個水壓到我們六塊樓排水所以如果他沒有做分流我相信未來都會面臨這個狀態第二個就是中游的新順橋改建他必須要在把北安路三段745巷口的側溝改建計畫一併納入還有要留書 |
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抽水平台的位置才能解決三天之外一屆古柏樓的抽水需求還有第三個是重劃區他旁邊剛有一個重劃區滯洪池要加大增加容水量第四個就是六塊樓排水的下游要設置抽水站這整個所有的瓶頸如果完全提出他們現在台南市政府在做設計規劃要拜託部長要拜託水利署這邊 |
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要把它抽出來因為這可能要10億以上可是花了10億才能把我們3、4、10億的六塊鳥排水真正凸顯它的滯洪效率所以這個部分再拜託部長是 我們會馬上辦理好 謝謝 謝謝部長 謝謝謝謝委員好 謝謝 |