| IVOD_ID |
163450 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163450 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-12T11:55:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-12T12:10:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/affd0e2636d87bdfcfec638d8861ff8ba8bba6e65b10b0a5bc88735d355306b86c7d451d8d01ad695ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:55:09 - 12:10:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長就『新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領2.0執行成效』進行專案報告並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等13案。（8月8日）二、邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長列席，提出「丹娜絲颱風及七二八豪雨災後復原重建」專案報告並備質詢。（8月12日）三、8月8日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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議長 我請到議長好 麻煩再請卓議員長備詢謝委員好 卓議長辛苦對你的辛苦給你12萬分的傾聽 這是應該做的應該辛苦 你沒打要叫誰打 |
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所以不管你做了怎樣 國防的責任 難免災民現在是什麼樣的心情就像鍋鍋一樣所以你的辛苦是應該的 但是辛苦要有代價 對不對 |
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譬如說你剛才在這裡報告,我坐在這裡聽,聽了有一點感動,因為你低車壁街,知道環境什麼錯誤嘛這叫做台獨政客啊,主人就有官獨出來結果不知道你的豬隊友有多少民進黨的黨團幹部在那裡,你在報告災民時,那種痛苦的心情竟然把你打破了 |
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我看你的個案 很多人啊對你的婆婆啊 掌聲鼓勵我們在那裡站著是要幹什麼事我不知道你的團隊是 到底是 什麼地方出問題我看你站在那裡 他們的婆婆啊 你啊 抱歉抱歉公仔伯 你也不跟我們唱電票 |
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我實在是 我覺得他們是為所有在救災的人鼓勵不要再相信那樣 相信這個事情就不用再拗了你也不需要太嚴格說 也不必要這樣想會比較坦然你整個團隊不知道你今天在這裡做什麼報告我以前說過 如果今天你當我一個擔任政府委員 |
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過去的經驗 去做的態度 對手的態度我可以跟你肯定你到七月三十日 先立前進紀委書唉 我不要跟你說喔做鬼就糗沒硬菜湯了全球四人在立特紀 你知道鬼的災民二十三天 他們是什麼樣的心情 |
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當然流氣 但是酒的不白 聽起來還流脾氣沒有對稱下誘 到底你的團隊是給你蒙蔽什麼就對了信息每天都沒有報 所以造成今天你民間的流量沒有進來因為大家感覺沒有很嚴重的樣子 你想第一禮拜 |
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到第一禮拜 台南市政府的省款啦 官方才兩千多萬到阿扁 大家跑上營業 到你入企 這樣開始積極媒體比較淡薄 薄薄的 我跟你講 第一禮拜 你知道媒體 尤其是整棟議場的那三大媒體啊我實在是 說得真的不太老 |
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一千五百篇的新聞報到裡面就有五十五篇報在庫了三趴所以大家 因為都在拚大麻煩嘛所以大家會覺得說 改成台南自己不太嚴重啊所有來幫忙的人 我都感謝啦第一時間 我跟你說 做環保阿標有效益政我相信現在大家都理解 |
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沒有多久沒辦法我就要這樣做有的蓬勃已經蓋三半了 你知道嗎那天天天蓋了這樣風吹來 搖來搖來那幾十個店就都破了所以外面落貨 裡面的落貨甩了就要再壓著 叫人家吐爆房但是後天過我可以跟你體諒就是說風太過 三天落兩天貨 三天落兩天貨 |
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沒有一個黨首長用他的冠軍在落後天的內功聖拿站在大廳我告訴你這我了解你沒有這樣民間的力量會比政府更大所以我們一直不斷的活躍民間的力量進來我教授的伯伯還去把三間廳鎖住鎖住沒鎖住 放太久了 |
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這個民間的流氓一關一入來的時候 還有人跟我說什麼啊 你看那個蔣介石幹什麼的沒有按照這個公安來做我告訴你 我如果要按照公安來啦 大家扣緩照顧 才開始施工我問你們 臨近政府委員我告訴你 到明年八月十五 你就做不好了救災 有急的所在啦不是說我們沒有重視公安啦 |
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這時候是要怎麼全體一體來面對嘛不是這樣嗎今年三月二十一月南西大跌宕之後這月二十一之後呢到你三月二十一你來啟動到三七淪陣災洪救災的大延年在我們台南市 |
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不足的調動啊 好啦 修地安容啊 天災的安地啦包括種種的丟臂不足所有的怨言那天做到 大家也給你講什麼結果 鳳台來破功了 完全破功了我們也不可責 台南市政府這些人啊公訴 發出訴 市政府 各可惜大家 |
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都在地上在拼命面對著這種極端的氣候我也不知道說你的經濟 因為你知不知道我們現在飲水的步驟要幾公分你知不知道五十公分以上 中央政府有夠多兩萬塊的步驟五十公分以上 中央政府有夠多兩萬塊的步驟其他五十公分都沒有啦 |
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這已經很多年的關係很多年喔是怎樣 當時民國九十年是怎樣的長50公分如果去想過甘蔭的訓練應該很多人會知道聽到很辛苦 |
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你懂嗎 現在十公分 二十公分 甲骨頭都胖了 冰箱都沾了現在跟以前不一樣了 這日本時代的文化團了我告訴你日本時代大正六年 發生風災一直到較早二十年隆重日本天皇有十八年中間有三十八次來救助台灣希望的五項 |
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東雄的3棵 阿如果煮好呢 全匯的1棵 北匯的35斤鹽水是怎麼頂50公分因為日本時代 你看過日本鎖匣嗎你大過嗎 我也大過了日本鎖匣的榻榻米高達50公分 |
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就是說陰水50公分 榻榻米就陰氣了榻榻米在冬季是歷史上重要的季節啦不然榻榻米就沒辦法睡啦我們民國90年來頂的時候總要沿用這個文化50公分 |
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我說有台南的鄉親 台南這裡的委員 大家去聽的時候怎麼要50公分啊當然你定30、25公分也有意見 你定25公分也有意見這個50公分是對日本時代的精神 安排這個榻榻米的管道用來因為我需要調整這個 |
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你若看在那一邊你若做過民意代表 相信你再保衛你再貫徹政府所聽的每一次如果變陰罪 大家就對這個50公分有意見你覺得如何 |
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這次也有民眾表現說他的淹水不到50公分那我們認為第一個是重寬那我記得上次颱風的時候我們研議說50公分以下重寬我知道啦 因為這是在我們的辦法裡面啦你這裡沒有蓋就對了每次說我這次要重寬 後面沒要重寬 |
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我是說有經濟不對 我就針對這個地去修發這個沒有啦這可以檢討 我們來處理上次 九年風災也在說 國際公安醫學院是不是頂一個下線整個我們醫學院也給他補助 有這個循環這是在說的齁 災民啊我不要說 冚災 地立正地 我從來不會這樣啦你去看我所有的法文 |
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就是對中央政府、對地方政府傾聽再傾聽因為只有這樣傾聽把線的理論激發出來民間 人家大家看到人家有的團體就要來找我們說我們在做什麼德國可以給我們做什麼不是我們 因為台南就掉沒缸了嘛台南所有的鐵缸我問我那些鐵缸的朋友他說我要兩個我們台灣我們台灣要修理說兩件事 |
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你等2個半月 我這裡的頂端都2個半月以後啦所以第一時間我就呼籲我們一定要清掉其他外部頭 這裡的鐵缸進來用電缸的 讓我們的蒸汁掉掉鐵柱做 看起來很簡單啦 因為本來的鐵柱就對了那很簡單 我跟你講 我看你就把它做好了鐵缸蓋起來而已嘛 因為本來不是的 |
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他們是頭角鼠 他們是紅蝦鼠裡面的妹子很大還不可以拔到布地上你還不可以把牠牽起來很多問題啊我們知道 但是一般人不知道你們在救災地上的人遇到這些困難所以我呼籲 為什麼不斷的呼籲給民間的流動進來 |
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你的辦法裡面 我要替你報告你要接受的 不是只有股民 農民 肥民你知不知道在這個財庫裡面有很多企業的工廠 出店也放棄了機械也淋浴了 泡水了原料也泡水了 芯片也泡水了 |
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他們的損失就不是一戶三十萬、二十萬他們的損失都七倍千萬、五六千萬、三、兩千萬你的條例裡面有沒有針對企業手術者來處理企業的部分包括利息補貼、節能補貼、設備補貼跟動力補貼經濟部都有長年的預算在做這樣的補貼利息補貼的規劃跟預算在裡面所以我們這個最重要的利息補貼而已 |
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他的動力補貼跟他的節能補貼甚至有的是五百萬以上跟五百萬以下都有這麼多不同的補貼就對了 損失的補貼嘛 |
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報告委員我們大概補助機器設備每一家可以來到這個最高可以來到1500萬 |
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然後這個動力設備他就把這個書面給我寫好書面給我寫來書面給我寫好因為這企業大家說受損的很多因為我再請教你一個很嚴肅的問題太陽能的光電棒太陽能的光電棒到今天我給你提出我給你們的新聞 |
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就是說 這裡的公電房155,000平方米 叫它飛到四界去沒有人要處理 你說進這裡沒有人可以處理如果這樣 地方政府準備倒處理 來你們如果沒有一個合法 合法占地的稀客改善給地方政府啦我告訴你們 整間不行但是救災調雷可以啊 緊急可以啊 |
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你不出這個行 地方政府就無法可依存啦我先去替他找地啊你替他找地 我告訴你一天嘛你能夠找到整塊地 對不對民政那邊大 那邊大片報告委員 那個92%已經全部回收了只剩下8%還堆積在那個地方所以92%就好了 8%不用8%正在處理當中 |
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那個是地方的製裁 你講這個我聽不下去啦你懂嗎 藝術風態一般來明天早上後天那個風態來不會再出現就對了啦後天那個風態來不會再出現我是跟你講你一個許可解釋函給地方政府 地方政府可以替你一番 它就有法可損啦那不是這樣 |
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這個已經做了 報告委員已經做了有啦 我們那個循環署早就已經發出去了這樣你了解沒有 |
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就是說 我要求你我怕你們受到 但是你們沒有下去 |
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這個出地的改水盒 佔地的合法的改水盒你沒有落去 地方政府不敢做啦請阿婆就盡快把這個程序完成這個我們第一個禮拜就有在處理這個事情這事情要比較積極啦 救災齁很急的啦 不能像私人在抓土雞啦 我跟你講真的啦 這災民大家都看不下去但是我們會繼續把你勾勒啦 我們會陪你走走啦謝謝 謝謝委員 |
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謝謝謝龍介委員的資訊謝謝卓院長 各部會所長的備詢也謝謝黃建斌委員 王玉敏委員陪同我們一起參與我們專案的討論那我們現在休息 |