| IVOD_ID |
16345 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16345 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-05T08:29:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-05T11:53:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:23:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/7a505bc1fba11f2d4d2bbad01105bb9c9b5fa2f296a93534a82e37f9ba35fd77f6f31faefb4eea535ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分。（處理）（12月4日及5日二天一次會）） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:29:59 - 11:53:00 |
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現在繼續開會請議事人員宣讀討論事項討論事項繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分處理宣讀完畢介紹在場的委員陳永康委員介紹與會的官員 |
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退府會主任委員嚴德發副主任委員陳敬廣副主任委員吳志洋主任秘書簡世峰綜合規劃處處長利以剛服務照顧處處長曹東發 |
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就養養護處處長周星國就業就業處處長慈玉楠就醫保健處處長劉俊政事業管理處處長楊長政退企給付處處長羅馬可 |
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行政管理處處長張光宇人事處處長吳彥均征峰處副處長羅世紀會計處處長蔡進滿統計資訊處處長張志強法規會檢認視察蕭明雄 |
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臺北榮總院長陳威明臺中榮總副院長傅雲慶高雄榮總院長陳金順屏東榮總院長吳東林執訓中心主任關永忠榮民工程股份有限公司清算人代表楊長正 |
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國防部支援規劃師人力支援處專門委員林靜芬沒有來政治作戰局政戰綜合處中校宋憲宜人事參謀次長是人事勤務處參謀官阮學文這也沒有來 |
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行政院主政總處專門委員丘碧珠再補充介紹在場的委員王定宇 趙偉 |
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本日會議繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分進行提案處理請議事人員宣讀預算數及委員提案同時佈置協商的場地宣讀完畢後請列席的官員移架至協商桌處理提案現在請宣讀 |
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114年度中央政府總預算案國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分（稅務部分（第二款（罰款及賠償收入（第220項（國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會289萬7千元（第三款（規費收入（第178項（ |
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國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會兩億八千八百一十三萬四千元（第四款財產收入（第231項國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會一千零一十萬元（第七款其他收入（第233項國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會四億八千六百一十二萬元（二稅出部分（第25款國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管第一項國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會一千三百零九億九千八百四十九萬七千元（ |
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第一幕 醫學臨床教學研究 十一億兩百五十九萬七千元第二幕 退除役官兵救學執訓 一千七百三十九萬七千元第三幕 榮民及榮譽健康保險九四億兩千九百八十萬四千元第四幕 退除役官兵服務 |
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救助與照顧6億2888萬元第5目一般行政37億8580萬9千元第6目農民醫療照顧26億3615萬2千元第7目農民安養及養護75億4560萬2千元 |
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第8目費營業特種基金五列屬第9目一般建築及設備五億九千零六十四萬六千元第10目第一預備金一千九百萬元第11目退出役官兵退休給付一千零五十六億三千六百四十六萬六千元第12目退出役官兵退休業務六百一十四萬四千元現在宣讀委員之預算提案第一案稅入第四款財產收入租金收入增列三百萬元為馬文君等案提案 |
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第2至第4案系稅出第一目各種種及其分院臨床教學與研究之提案第二案凍結兩千萬元委員陳煥亭等人提案第三案凍結五百萬元委員馬文君等人提案第四案凍結兩百萬元委員黃仁等人提案第五案稅出第二目凍結兩百萬元委員王定宇等人提案 |
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第6案（第7案系第二幕退除役官兵就學輔導措施業務費之提案。第6案（凍結10萬元委員王定宇等提案。第7案（凍結10萬元委員黃仁等提案。第8案（第9案系第二幕退除役官兵職業技術訓練之提案。 |
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第8案凍結50萬元委員盧美琳等提案第9案凍結10萬元委員林益君等提案第10案至第13案系第二幕退除役官兵職業技術訓練業務費資提案第10案凍結200萬元委員黃仁等提案第11案凍結200萬元委員黃仁等提案第12案凍結150萬元委員馬文君等提案第13案凍結100萬元委員王定宇等提案第14案 |
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第3目﹐榮民健保醫療部分負擔凍結4000萬元委員陳冠廷等提案。﹐第15案第4目﹐基本行政工作維持凍結20萬元委員林益君等提案。﹐第16案至第21案系第4目﹐基本行政工作維持業務費之提案。﹐第16案凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案。﹐第17案其他業務租金凍結50萬元委員黃潤等提案。﹐第18案物品檢列50萬元委員馬文君等提案。﹐第19案 |
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一般事務費檢列20萬元委員黃人等提案。（第20案一般事務費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案。（第21案一般事務費凍結50萬元委員黃人等提案。（第22案第4目志工服務照顧榮民作業凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案。（第23案第4目志工服務照顧榮民作業業務費凍結10分之一委員黃人等提案。（第24案第4目榮民榮卷一卷 |
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吉蘭救助及慰問、獎補助費凍結20萬元為馬文君等天第20案第4目（業務費凍結50萬元為馬文君等天第26案至第27案系第4目（單身頑固榮民、善後、商帳及遺產管理作業業務費凍結20萬元為馬文君等天第27案 |
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業務費大陸地區旅費凍結3萬元委員林柱英等提案。（第28案至第29案系第4目海內外退伍軍人聯繫作業業務費之提案。（第28案檢列20萬元凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案。（第29案一般數費凍結60萬元委員陳冠廷等提案。（第30案第4目獎補助費凍結50萬元委員馬文君等提案。（第31案第4目國軍登山退員宿舍 |
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服務與管理凍結10%委員陳冠廷等提案第32案至第34案系第4目國軍單身退人宿舍服務與管理優惠之提案第32案凍結30%委員徐巧欣等提案第33案凍結100萬元委員黃仁等提案第34案凍結77萬元委員林楚英等提案 |
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第35案第5目基本行政工作維持凍結100萬元委員沈伯陽等提案第36案至第38案系第5目基本行政工作維持業務費之提案第36案簡列400萬元凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第37案業務費簡列524萬7千元委員馬文君等提案第38案凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案第39案 |
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第5目,基本行政工作維持設備及投資,減列50萬元,凍結50萬元委員馬文君等提案。第40案,第5目,幹部在職及藝男替代役訓練,減列54萬元委員林柱英等提案。 |
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第41至第43案系第5目辦理統計與資訊管理作業業務費之提案第41案凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第42案資訊服務費凍結35%委員徐曉新等提案第43案物品凍結50萬元委員馬文君等提案 |
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第44案至第52案系第5目一般行政辦理統計與資訊管理作業設備及投資之提案第44案凍結10%委員陳冠廷等提案第45案凍結10%委員陳冠廷等提案 |
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第46案 凍結十分之一委員黃仁等提案第47案 凍結兩百萬元委員陳冠廷等提案第48案 凍結一百萬元委員林益君等提案第49案 資訊軟硬體設備費凍結一百萬元委員陳永康等提案第50案 |
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動結十分之一委員黃仁等提案,第51案動結一百萬元委員王定宇等提案,第52案動結一百萬元委員王定宇等提案,第53案至第55案系第5目,辦理榮林工程公司清理計劃之提案,第53案動結五十萬元委員林毅君等提案,第54案動結十萬元委員林毅君等提案,第55案對特種基金之補助動結五十萬元委員黃仁等提案, |
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第56案第6目凍結100萬元委員林彥均等提案第57至第58案系第6目對榮民及特定醫療體系之補助之提案第57案凍結200萬元委員陳冠廷等提案第58案凍結200萬元 |
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委員陳冠廷等人提案第59次第60案系第6目對榮民及特定醫療體系之補助對特種基金之補助之提案第59案檢列100萬元凍結100萬元委員馬文君等人提案第60案凍結1000萬元委員沈伯陽之提案 |
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第61案第6目長期照顧與身心障礙醫療復健服務凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第62案第6目獎補助費公費救養及醫療補助凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案 |
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第63案第6目各級榮民醫院營運督導管理檢驗100萬元委員林竹英等提案第64案自第66案系第6目醫事人力培訓與專業教育訓練之提案第64案凍結200萬元 |
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委員馬文君等提案第65案凍結100萬元委員王定宇等提案第66案凍結10%委員陳冠廷等提案第67至第69案系第6目醫事人力培訓與專業教育訓練獎補助費之提案第67案凍結500萬元委員黃仁等提案第68案凍結100萬元委員陳永康等提案第69案凍結15%委員陳冠廷等提案 |
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第70至71案系第6目高齡醫學發展與照護之提案第70案凍結600萬元委員馬文君等提案第71案凍結200萬元委員王定宇等提案第72案第6目安寧緩和醫療照護與推廣凍結500萬元委員林儲英等提案第73案第6目偏鄉公費醫師留任獎勵計劃凍結10%委員陳冠廷等提案 |
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第74至75案系第7目制預算提案第74案凍結100萬元委員羅美玲等提案第75案凍結100萬元委員羅美玲等提案第76至83案系第7目基本行政工作維持其他業務租金之提案 |
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第76案 簡列100萬元 凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案第77案 簡列7000萬元 凍結1億元委員馬文君等提案第78案 凍結1000萬元委員黃仁等提案第79案 凍結100萬元委員王定宇等提案第80案 凍結100萬元委員陳冠廷等提案 第81案 凍結50萬元委員林益君等提案 第82案 |
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國內旅費凍結15%委員陳冠廷等提案第83案大陸地區旅費凍結5萬元委員林竺英等提案第84案第7目基本行政工作維持設備及投資檢列300萬元凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案第85案第9目退除役官兵職業訓練中心防射整建工程檢列100萬元凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案 |
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第86至91案系第9目安養機構防射及生活設施整建工程之提案第86案 |
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典禮﹖三百萬元﹖凍結一千萬元委員馬文君等提案﹖第87案﹖凍結百分之三十委員徐小新等提案﹖第88案﹖凍結百分之十委員陳冠廷等提案﹖第89案﹖凍結三百萬元委員陳永康等提案﹖第90案﹖凍結一百萬元委員林益君等提案﹖第91案﹖凍結十分之一委員黃仁等提案﹖ |
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第92至94針對第九目提升失智照顧量能長照萬我園區中程計劃之提案第92案凍結35%委員徐曉新等人之提案第93案凍結6000萬元委員馬文君等人提案第94案凍結15%委員陳冠廷等人提案 |
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第95至96第9目提升施治照顧量能長照望委員區中整計劃防護建築及設備之提案第95案凍結200萬元委員林一軍等提案第96案凍結200萬元委員黃仁等提案 |
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第97案第9目會本部防射整建工程凍結30%委員徐曉新等提案第98案第9目服務機構車輛太過凍結143萬元委員馬文君等提案第99案第9目防 |
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服務機構車輛汰換運輸設備費減列20萬元委員黃仁等提案第100至第101案專對第9目安養機構車輛汰購之提案第100案凍結500萬元委員馬文君等提案第101案凍結10%委員陳冠廷等提案第102案第11目退除役官兵退休給付凍結1000萬元委員林益君等提案第103案至第124案委主決議 |
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現在宣讀主決議之內容第103案交通部觀光署在104年1月22日修正發展觀光條例要求經營旅館業者應與114年1月21日前半坨公司或商業登記並向地方主管機關登記申請旅館業務登記使得繼續營業國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會所屬平地農場仍有 |
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原有東河農莊受封會館尚未委外經營或是轉型規劃,現其屆滿後將無法繼續經營。原建請國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會 向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告。提案人委員 等人104.臺灣即將於2025年進入超高齡社會 |
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根據113年6月份國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會公布之﹐榮民整體狀況資料顯示﹐我國榮民約有近五成之高齡比例﹐為避免高齡榮民與醫療中被客體化﹐致尊嚴降低﹐致主消極﹐及權利休眠﹐原建請國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會於3個月內﹐向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告﹐提案人委員林楚英等人第105案 |
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根據退除役官兵輔導委員會提供之數據顯示目前仍有145位符合退輔會救養條件的榮譽國民長期旅居中國退輔會仍需執行仿事與身份查驗之工作建議國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會研議以科技手段 |
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取代派員附中執行相關任務為避免將我國公職人員致與人身安全的風險之中提案人委員盧美林等人第106案 |
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建議現今兩岸關係緊張中國近年修訂《國安法》與相關規定加大對外來人員的限制陸委會也與今年年中將中國大陸旅遊警示調山圍城設在此背景下派員附中執行查核任務不僅可能面臨中國官方之刁難甚至存在被軍禁之風險建議退府會比照現行確認存續的線上指紋查驗系統演繹可行方案 |
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避免公務員被迫赴中國執行任務而面臨人身自由風險提案人委員盧美林等人 |
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第107案（國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會（透過辦理各類就業媒合活動（並與國內企業聯繫（開拓多元職缺（讓退伍軍人有更多的選擇（近年臺積電決定在臺南擴大投資（除整個半導體產業鏈在南科的群聚（並帶動周邊物流（生活服務業務投資進駐臺南 |
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以增加在地就業機會原件請國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會說明配合南科地區產業需求之就業輔導作為並於2個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案委員王定宇等人 |
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第108案根據退輔委近5年編列規劃赴中國訪視長居中國救養榮民相關資料顯示2020年至2024年相關預算皆無法執行而繳酷建請退輔委研議無法赴中訪視長居中國救養榮民之相關配套措施及關懷驗證方式並於兩個月內向立法院為交集國防委員會提出書面報告提案的委員王定宇等人第109案 |
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退府會與新章天然氣公司之持股率為34.08%,然而安置率僅有18.09%照顧退伍軍人之就業安置為退府會之職者,建請退府會積極研商如何改善新章天然氣公司之安置率並於兩個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出相關改善措施之書面報告提案人委王定宇等人第110案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
3188.056 |
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2025年度退府會國際退伍軍人事務交流經費編列1113萬元請退府會說明2025年度國際退伍軍人事務交流之展望及具體作為並於兩個月內提出向立法院外交及國防委員會提出相關書面報告提案人委員王定宇等人 |
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3213.206 |
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第111案（國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會持股20%以上之轉投資事業（多達23家該等轉投資事業除透過投資收益役助安置基金外（另一重要功能即為提供退輔會就業機會（退輔會予以藉由該等公司派有會見董事長或總經理等高階主管對事業經營決策及人力運用有較高之影響力 |
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3228.762 |
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必力持續拓展退出役官兵之就業機會提案委員王定宜等人第112案國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會114年度預算案容免安養及養護基本行政工作維持容免醫療照護高齡醫學發展與照護 |
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編列相關經費一千五百零一萬兩千元（嚴禁警國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會應就所屬榮民（榮院加導入智慧照護科技輔具所設之支安防護規範與3個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員沈伯陽等人 |
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3275.476 |
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第113案（為防渡中共不時透過各項宣傳搶奪話語權（並利用我退出役官兵附中（藉機防害我國家之尊嚴（原件請國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會（得藉由各項活動之規劃（強化與退出役官兵之連結（以彰顯我國家之主權提案人委員沈伯陽等人第114案（為協助官兵順利轉嫌民間職場（ |
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3294.289 |
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而在事性輔導．促進順利就業方面．國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會．亦有舉辦職癌探索營等服務．協助年輕職癌發展與從業方向．為現行職癌探索營每年僅舉辦15場次 |
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處級人數役僅450人（原件請國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會（因舊執矮探索營資場次爭辦研議相關規劃（並於3個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告（提案人委員沈博洋等人 |
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第115案（鑒於戰爭發生的不確定性（輔導會各級容院人力及床位已納入（陣動員準備計劃（目前各級容院（戰傷醫療料能（醫事人力即16546人（床位即15343床（請輔導會持續強化加護便房手術台等（ |
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3340.069 |
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3346.67 |
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及重症醫療設備以強化戰傷醫療積極備戰與協力應變提案人委員陳永康等人。第116案（退輔會辦理（退除役官兵職業訓練計劃檢視110至112年（退輔會執訓中心致辦或委外執訓人員參訓後就業力介於 |
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3370.138 |
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百分之82.6至88.23%（委辦訓練之就業率僅達67.62%至76.10%（另外參訓人員接訓後取得專業證照比例未達五成（擁有提升之空間（建議退輔委應籌師如何精進退除役官兵之就業輔導（ |
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3385.314 |
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3409.922 |
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創造退除役官兵順利就業社會安定進步及政府支援有效運用之山穎成國提案人委員陳冠廷等人第117案建議退府會應積極規劃嘉義農場未來新定位與縣府互為夥伴共同推動地方觀光產業發展並增加嘉義農場之收益提案人委員陳冠廷等人第118案 |
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3427.869 |
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退府會年度工作計劃與退除役官兵服務救助與照顧主要招募社區志願服務人員及榮薪志工提供榮民券及第二類退除役官兵各項照顧服務。114年度編列獎補助費1億3358萬9千元但志工服務並無固定規範,包含職務內容時數及考核機制等 |
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3437.538 |
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3459.293 |
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建議退輔委因醜失制定本預算用途及致用方式提案人委員陳冠廷等人第119案114年度國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會與預算案與退出役官兵服務就助於照顧榮民安養及養護分別編列預算用於訪查大陸地區高額遺產繼承人及訪查長居大陸救養榮民及辦理指紋驗證為輔導會以連續數年為實際派員前往大陸進行關懷與訪查 |
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3467.578 |
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3481.812 |
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原請退輔會因舊未派員復入之原因及114年度若未能派員訪查之替代方案與2個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員黃仁等人第120案 |
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3484.094 |
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3499.396 |
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輔導會依法辦理退除役官兵退休給付業務,為輔導會111及112年度退除役官兵退休給付人事費軍教員援編預算操資援引動資第一預備金,為兼顧軍職人員退休金權益, |
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3501.584 |
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3529.146 |
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與軍職人員退輔基金財務永續性與與何時編列依法律義務支出之預算提案人委員黃仁等人第121案建議近年退除役特考時有錄取不足情形以112年退除役特考三等考試為例一般行政社會行政勞工行政社會工作及衛生行政等類科錄取人數皆未達需用人數原建議執訊中心與辦理借退 |
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3532.776 |
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官兵救養．就業輔導時．可積極宣導．鼓勵報考提案委員黃仁等人第122案 |
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3538.14 |
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3566.351 |
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退輔會執訓中心多年乃為委辦班次接訓員自辦班次輔導會應探究原因（原請國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會就相關原因及提升績效辦法與2個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告體驗人委員黃仁等人第123案後疫情時代來臨受疫後免疫負債影響民眾就醫頻率增加加之醫療自費市場發展 |
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3569.876 |
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3589.933 |
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導致內外婦兒急診等住院醫師招募不順。（輔導會所屬榮運為國內醫療龍頭應提早規劃相關醫師人力禁用（以確保榮運維持高品質醫療服務提案委員黃仁等人。（第124案退輔會所屬福壽山清淨及武林等三高農場 |
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員工缺額率始終居高不下（最嚴重者如福壽山農場（缺額率近三成（退府未應妥適對策（積極拓（擴大人員招募及提升待遇或其他服務又應（以充實人力提案人委員黃仁等人宣讀完畢 |
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3619.338 |
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3629.469 |
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現在開始處理提案開始之前我先做幾個宣告國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會預算審查以一級科目作為併案依據 |
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3630.902 |
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3650.828 |
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如已經與提案委員說明達成共識請直接報告溝通結果或動算數委員如有其他的提問再加說明提案委員如果不在場者不予處理但共同提案人或受提案委員委託的委員可以代為說明提問 |
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3652.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3655.311 |
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我們開始審查先就稅入部分第一案請退輔會說明 |
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3705.612 |
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就第一案的部分因為我們在年度的這個收入的部分我們好像是降低因為之前都可以每年大概平均都可以達到500萬以上可是現在我們編列的預算剩下484萬6千元是降低的所以就這個部分算有來說明不過我們現在可能也要 |
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3707.414 |
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3716.116 |
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請我們相關單位其實要去做一些就是改就是修正因為像現在我們看到很多的商店其實他不斷不斷的在創新就是他會用很多新式的東西去吸引別人那我們的員工福利社好像長期以來大概賣的大概都是那些東西然後擺設也差不多那也可能不是那些住民或者是 |
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3735.6 |
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3736.1 |
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委員會主管收支部分 |
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3765.7 |
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3766.221 |
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委員會主管收支部分 |
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3800.795 |
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那是不是有一些可以做的可能可以強化比如說假日的時候可能不太有員工或什麼的去停那是不是可以適度的去做一些裁員的開發那就這個部分我們還是同意就是增加這個增加多少?增加100萬建議好謝謝委員長我們後面尊委也拜你謝謝 |
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3808.936 |
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3812.678 |
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好那第一案我們就由馬文君委員提案然後增列100萬那第二第三第四案 |
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3819.588 |
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3819.608 |
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請說明 |
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3850.39 |
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委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
3891.906 |
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臨船醫事失智的培育有助於提升醫療品質但是退補會乃為說明明年培育失智的疫情的減少112人的原因所以請退補會現場說明清楚原因及各院院的為何減少來現場說明就好了 |
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3900.732 |
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3928.06 |
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報告委員北榮目前是沒有降低訓練的人數當然是因為少者化的關係有些重症的科別很多人不願意投入這是我們積極在努力提高薪資希望能留出好的人才來照顧我們的國人這個一定會全力努力但是人就越來越少年輕人的觀念也改變這是我們最大面臨整個國家全世界共同面臨的問題 |
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3933.224 |
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所以本席建議可併動200以上謝謝委員那我們第二第三第四案就併案然後我們以第二案陳冠廷委員當提案人然後凍結200萬然後提出書面報告並經同意後使得凍資然後退伍會會回覆書面報告內容請包括併案委員所追尋的部分 |
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3960.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
3963.108 |
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接下來我們第5案請說明來同意改組決議 |
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主席我講一下吳立華委員這個我有連署我提一個建議其實有一些退伍的官兵其實有跟我們辦公室這邊反映就是說他們退伍之後其實有打算自己創業然後在創業其實有很多的關鍵技術像是企業的財會財會的稅務數位行銷 |
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4008.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
4010.827 |
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謝謝委員指導我們在執行中心有加入相關的一個創業智能的課程謝謝 |
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4037.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
4061.283 |
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好那第5案的話就王定宇委員然後改組決議然後第6第7案請說明第6第7案系第2幕退除役官兵救學執訓動搖退除役官兵救學輔導措施業務費提案委員分別為王定宇召委以及黃仁委員都已經到委員辦公室說明及提供資料那第7案或委員同意改組決議的辦理第8第6案懇請委員同意改組決議辦理 |
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主席這個案其實是鼓勵因為所謂學用合一你們開辦到目前為止校系所其實數量增加非常快那就像剛才羅美玲委員講的我們期待就是兩件事情 |
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4082.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
4108.635 |
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一個是擴大跟不同的學校不要侷限這些學校你們現在量不錯了但是因為我們的退伍袍則都分布在各縣市所以你擴大它的那個接觸的面也會加大課程因為退伍會本身不會開課程但是你們可以協調學校的課程提供給我們的退伍袍則課我要選ESG的課什麼課什麼課這是一個第二個是追蹤 |
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他畢業以後創業成功率多少?就業滿一年以上多少?這個麻煩你們持續追蹤那我的案我同意跟黃總委員並起來做主決議謝謝趙偉主要是改成主決議的一個目的是要提醒這個受少子化的影響很多學校都出現招生困難的狀況 |
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4134.85 |
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4153.338 |
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所以退不回未來也可以不用局限於在科大盡可能增加學校的科系那讓退退除役官兵有更多的選擇那所以在預算會增加那所以改成主決議好以上謝謝委員好那我們第6案就第6第6 7案是併案然後改成主決議 |
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第8、第9案第8、第9案系第二幕退出役官兵救學執訓動量退出役官兵職業技術訓練提案委員分別為 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
4191.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
4201.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
李懿君召委以及羅美玲委員我們都已經到委員辦公室說明並且提供資料第9案已經獲召委來同意改組決議辦理那第8案懇請委員同意預算照列OK這個案我測案 |
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4206.9 |
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4213.344 |
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好這第8案我撤案好這主席就把它撤案了OK好謝謝謝謝委員好那我說明一下齁這個預算我是同意照列啦但是希望齁退輔會齁能針對花東地區還有離島地區的退除役官兵的執訓應該要更加的重視畢竟他們是處於比較偏遠的地方可以參加執訓的學習的機會還有課程齁就是比大都會其實資源還是來的比較少 |
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4241.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
所以加上也是交通不方便會造成學習上面的障礙重重譬如我們花東的退除役官兵其實想要上課參加執訓都是要翻山越嶺到高雄才可以上課所以因為像今年花蓮遇到0403的地震就造成很多上課的權益的損失所以菅義退委會是不是也是可以找國防部 |
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4255.189 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
4255.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
謝謝召委指導,我們會遵照辦理 |
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4281.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
4292.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
接下來我們第10到13案請說明第10到第13案並案系第二幕退出役官兵就學執訓動量退出役官兵職業技術訓練向下業務費提案的委員分別為王定宇昭偉黃仁委員馬文君委員都已經到委員辦公室說明並且提供資料懇請合併凍結150萬提書面報告後使得凍資 |
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4315.108 |
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4331.102 |
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產訓合作專班我們過去這十幾年來我們看的從早期就是駕駛然後我們希望跟著時代進步提供給我們退伍跑者不同的專長訓練我們按照年度來分別確實也有成長我是建議退輔會 |
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4332.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
4348.173 |
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要增加一下一方面協助我們的袍澤就業一方面也要協助我們社會某一些行業這個缺員的狀況比如說我們現在護理人員護理人員缺了大概兩萬五千人 |
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4375.926 |
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那我知道衛福部有提出一個就是說我正式護理不管是大護就大學護理系畢業的或者是護專畢業的他去考護理師執照那有的考不到的或者我有EMTJ就是高階這個救護專長的他可以先禁用為類似護佐這個職務這個衛福部有在推那他的薪水當然工作辛苦但薪水也還不錯所以我是我提這個案是希望說我們後續應該 |
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4393.426 |
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參訊的規模跟需求那特別是我們社會上所需要的人才那大家喜歡去光電業者喜歡去AI業者那醫療護理長照等等這些需要的人力其實相當龐大那我退伍之後 |
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4422.936 |
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我的專長可能是砲科可能是步兵跟社會未必能夠完整行街所以從退伍前的訓練到退伍後退輔會的訓練到社會的需求端甚至到建構全民韌性防衛力量因為有很多人具備這樣護理人才的話對於重大的不管是天災或相關的威脅他也是建構一個力量所以我這邊我贊成病案凍結150萬但是我希望就是我看到一個報告寫清楚就是針對需求端 |
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黃人緯委員 |
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本席有提到的是第10案、第11案兩案同科子木所以可一起處理兵動150萬那退不會在執行成效一直是不差的但是有不少受完信之後發現在就業的市場不服期待、期望 |
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4470.615 |
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或是在執行之後才發現所協對就業的注意不大那請退部會說明如何在信前讓參加執行的人員先了解就業市場的狀況 |
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4495.636 |
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謝謝委員指導我們在這個訓前其實我們都會做一個需求調查以及他期望做一個適性評量然後我們會針對他的一個需求建議他去參加相關的一個訓練班隊然後將來這個訓後能夠訓用合一來輔導他就業所以本席提的第10案第11案同一個指目的就是病案150萬謝謝委員 |
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馬文君委員馬文君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
4529.103 |
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所以也算是非常高那可是我看那個內容有一些其實還是不錯就是說那如果可以學習的話像消防工程繪圖啦互動式的網頁視覺設計等等像列印這個可能也都算是比較像現在其實還蠻流行的可是都沒有人去就是報名的人數還不足以開班 |
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他的問題可能首先要先找出來還有另外就是其實大家去上課因為這個課程也辦了很長的時間那除了剛剛說是不是符合我們社會的就業需求那現在有很多的企業或者相關的一些可能工作其實都說找不到人一直缺人力可是又為什麼大家像這樣也不是非常出眾的工作 |
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為什麼大家還是沒有意願去學習我想這個可能要先找出他的問題點那後續可能才有辦法再去做調整或改變那另外還有有些班我看他的那個開課的期程很短 |
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因為榮敏大概一生只有4次的機會可以選擇課程那你如果是很短那他又不知道說看題目的名稱好像還不錯可是他也不知道實際的內容那也不知道說未來在就業上面是不是可以有幫助所以你用只有一個多月的時間他就耗費一次的機會所以我想這個可能都是可以去檢討看看 |
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在說明的時候再給我們一些補充的資料謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
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還有沒有其他委員好那我們這第10案到第13案我們就並案處理然後我們以王定宇委員第13案為主案凍結150萬然後提出書面報告並經同意使得凍資退伍會回復的書面報告內容請包括並案委員所追尋的部分接下來我們第14案 |
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第14案（昔第3幕（榮民健保醫療部分負擔（動3（榮民健保醫療部分負擔（提案委員為陳冠廷委員（以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料（懇請凍結500萬元（提書面報告後時的動之 |
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主席我簡單回覆就是後來我看到後面的數據是看起來是使用的這個支出的部分跟前一年比較起來是差不多一樣但是如果是差不多一樣的話你們還多編4千多萬支出確實是不太合理啦所以說我們是要求說來去檢討一下所以同意改動500萬是謝謝委員指導謝謝 |
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我們第14案就由陳冠廷委員凍結500萬提出順便報告並經同意使得凍資接下來第15案 |
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各位委員好我是服務照顧處處長曹東發第15案系第4幕退出役官兵服務救助與照顧01基本行政工作維持提案委員為林毅君召委以致召委辦公室說明及提供資料配合召委提案凍結20萬提書面報告號使得凍資 |
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4742.473 |
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4745.695 |
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第15案就由我提案動結20萬提書面報告使之解凍16到21案請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
4795.407 |
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第16至21案（第4幕（退除役官兵（服務與救助與照顧（領域基本行政工作（維持向下業務費第16、17及第20案（提案委員分別為馬文君委員（黃仁委員均與自委員辦公室說明及提供資料可請合併凍結50萬提書面報告後（使得凍資第18案（提案委員為馬文君委員或委員同意預算照列 |
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第19及21案提案委員（黃仁委員（均已致委員辦公室說明及提供資料（懇請委員（不檢列預算（同意合併凍結10萬提書面報告後使得凍資黃仁委員 |
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4817.412 |
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4834.358 |
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針對第17案的這個部分來講（退不會租車和電動車（電池各增加了24萬那總計較今年增加了48萬說明中提到高雄和苗栗兩處農民聚集地交通不便 |
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4835.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
4836.88 |
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苗栗和高雄持續提供醫療專車 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
4857.874 |
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4874.105 |
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至於新增的租車的費用是我們辦19所容服處辦理大型的活動例如榮民懇談會或是移孤認養的這些相關活動我們補助給各容服處來辦理這個大型 |
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車輛租金以上向委員報告肯定委員能夠支持我可以併動50萬謝謝委員那另外第19211921就是本席所提到的第21案兩案同科子牧 |
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可一起處理兩岸可並動10萬但不與其他案並案處理主要是因為提醒退不會在微型保險可以為農民提供基礎的保障但目前納保人數是太少了112年統計只有6000多人退不會要了解農民接受度不高的原因是什麼以上所以兩岸可並動10萬以上 |
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4925.247 |
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4926.268 |
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16案和20案,16案大概是針對我們百歲的榮民,他辦理慶生會的部分,那特別來說明的時候,因為大概經費增加的部分主要是因為大概百歲人類都喜歡收到那個 |
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4947.088 |
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本來我們覺得說這樣子可能好像太...不過他們可能還是比較喜歡這個金質這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
4963.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
4964.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
委員會主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
4983.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
4983.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
主席主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
5005.179 |
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5007.781 |
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這當然當時也是利益良善就是說萬一在可能碰到一些緊急狀況的時候可以有一些補貼或者一些在緊急的運儲可是因為我們這個又是對於弱勢的族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
5027.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
5027.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
5052.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
5052.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
5068.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
5080.256 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
那我先說一下整個就是我們16、17、20案並案處理然後我們以馬文君委員的第20案為主案然後凍結50萬提出書面報告並經同意使得凍支然後第19、21案並案處理由黃仁委員的第21案 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
5097.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
5099.806 |
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委主案然後凍結10萬提出書面報告並經同意使得凍資那馬文君委員你18案那18案就我們預算照列好接下來我們22案 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
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5135.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
第22案系第4目（退除役官兵（服務救助與照顧（③志工服務照顧榮民作業提案委員為馬文君委員以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料可請委員同意凍結100萬提書面報告後經同意使得凍資 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
5144.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
5146.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
這個部分因為我們看總輔處其實在每一個縣市他服務的人數對象其實是不一樣有的像台北市、新北市這些其實是非常高可是有些服務的對象比較少不過當然有一些服務員很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
5161.132 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
5180.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
所以還是希望說在這個服務的人力配置上面還是再去做一些更適當的一個調整有些人負擔太重那可能就會流於形勢所以這個部分我們還是希望可以再去考量一下同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
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5190.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
22案同意跟黃仁委員嗎22案和23案黃仁委員要併案嗎可以嗎凱東協100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
5197.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
5197.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
凍結100萬提出書面報告並經同意使得凍資 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
5216.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
5236.812 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
主席這邊我再說明一下這一案最主要的問題是人力資源的分配那退不回應該不只是單純徵聘社區服務組長和勞工勞心志工要怎麼樣把人力資源發揮效益才是輔導會要加強的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
5262.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
第24案吸引第4幕（退除役官兵服務救助與照顧（臨時（榮民榮券、移券及難救助及慰問向下獎補租費（提案委員分別為馬文君委員以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料（配合委員提案凍結20萬提書面報告均同意後使得凍資 |
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5266.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
5270.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
這個部分大概是針對因為我們看到遠距照顧的這個部分好像經費有增加有來做過說明因為之前像我們單身農民大概都比較容易有時候年紀大或者自己一個人跌倒或者什麼可能比較不容易發現那用這個遠距照顧的這些像一些工具設備主要就是希望可以及時的可以去發現 |
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| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
5292.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
同意凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
5314.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
5340.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那24案我們就以馬文君委員為凍結20萬提出書面報告並經同意才使得凍資那25案第25案系第4幕退出役官兵服務救助與照顧06榮民及榮眷生活輔導宣慰及座談向下業務費提案委員為馬文君委員以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料配合委員提案凍結50萬提書面報告經同意後使得凍資 |
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5344.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
5346.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
因為我們看到這個資料的內容從109年110年到現在113年我們看到這個新住民配偶參加執訓的這個部分好像逐年在遞減尤其到今年8月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
5368.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
5368.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
是 謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
5396.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
5398.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
馬文君委員提案動結50萬同樣提書面報告並同意才使得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
5413.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
5426.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
26案27案好第2627案系第4幕退出役官兵服務救助與照顧淋漆單身亡故農民善後商帳及遺產管理作業向下業務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
5428.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
5451.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
第26案提案委員為馬文君委員（以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料（配合委員提案凍結20萬提案（以書面報告經同意後使得凍資第27案提案委員為林儲英委員（以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料（配合委員提案凍結3萬元提書面報告使得凍資 |
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5453.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
5454.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
林楚瑜委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
5473.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
5473.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
是 謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
5496.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5496.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
毛孟靜委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
5516.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
5527.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
中國大陸去探視或者去了解或者甚至去判斷說到底他是不是符合資格那你現在如果不能去的情況因為之前在這個這個辦理的過程大概沒有什麼樣的一個風險或者也沒有什麼困難除了碰到疫情以外那現在如果是有這樣的考量應該要用什麼樣的方式因為我們凍結不是要主要是要知道應該怎麼做 |
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5546.147 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
5550.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
因為你現在顯然你的做法是想要會有所調整所以這個部分應該怎麼做然後又不會影響到我們退休的榮民他們的權益或者包括這個在所有全世界在法律範圍裡面規範的他們有權益的部分不要去受到影響我想要提出一個具體的辦法雖然我們凍結數不多可是我們希望把那個解決的方法要寫出來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
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是 謝委員我們遵照辦理好 王定宇 張偉我對預算沒有意見但是這個我只學很多次了就是說我們在所有的退休撫訊像德國對他們的退休人員美國對他們的退休人員核實那個verify是很重要的這是一方面防止弊端二方面是關心我們自己連脈的退休人員 |
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現在牽涉到有一定數量常駐在中國那邊而中國最近通過的法令對於具備國家意向的權利行使動輒以重罪處罰我們退伏會是我們國家機關我們人員去那邊訪視探視 |
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發生事情的風險不是算百分比的是不能有這樣的風險的所以對於這種訪視確認關懷特別是有這樣子的風險的國家我是建議退府會可能要組個專案去研究一下 |
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處理後續事件 |
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指秀委員 |
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馬文鈞委員提案動結20萬提書面報告並經同意時得動資退伍會回覆書面報告內容請包括委員所追詢的部分林楚瑩委員動結3萬提出書面報告並經同意時得動資 |
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第28至29病案,系第4幕（退除役官兵服務救助與照顧（08海內外退伍軍人聯繫作業提案委員分別為馬文君委員及林冠廷委員（軍旅制委員（陳冠廷委員 |
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陳冠廷委員．以致委員辦公室提出說明及提供資料．勳請委員．不檢列預算．合併凍結50萬提書面報告．經同意後使得動之 |
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28案就這個部分因為我們看到這個主要是海內外退伍軍人聯繫作業的這個相關經費可是我們看到他支用的部分有印度台北協會澳洲駐台辦事處雖然這個有做過說明說他們可能對我們的退伍制度是很有興趣覺得可以學習可是我們還是希望 |
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預算的支用還是應該要恰當他雖然覺得我們這個很好可是用在這裡也好因為如果我們覺得別人很好我們去請教然後花這一筆預算我覺得還是比較合理那如果是別人覺得他們來 |
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學習或者做這樣的交流是不是適當我覺得可能未來在預算上面還是可能要考量一下是 謝委員我們會遵照規定來辦理那原則上就是接待的這個費用大家可能還是想一下因為其實原則上包含我們辦公室接待一些外賓老實說是不會花這麼大的費用所以如果能夠尊潔的部分就尊潔這樣是 謝委員知道 |
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30案要併案嗎?要一起併案嗎?因為是同樣的。 |
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那我們28到30我們就並案處理然後我們還是以陳冠廷委員29案為主案凍結50萬提出書面報告並經同意使得凍支然後接下來我們31到34案 |
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第31案（第4幕（退除役官兵服務照顧與救助09（國軍單身退員宿舍服務與管理提案委員為陳冠廷委員與自委員辦公室說明及提供資料可請委員同意凍結100萬提書面報告後（使得凍資第32至34案（第4幕（退除役官兵服務救助與照顧09（ |
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國軍單身退員宿舍服務與管理提案委員分別為徐曉新委員﹑黃仁委員及林儲英等委員均以至委員辦公室說明或提供書面資料懇請委員同意合併第31案凍結100萬提書面報告後使得動之 |
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在這個議題上面我個人踩的比較強硬因為像我在我自己的選區還有無薪宿、退社、大我新社、大我山莊、大我新莊等單身退員宿舍上述的宿舍因為歷史的原因有不少的疑倦因為侵佔的爭議跟國防部纏送當中 |
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那但是這一筆雖然他這個地不是退輔會的那但是呢這個國軍的單身退社的宿舍服務跟管理費用過去沒有被合理的使用那他的狀況是這樣子我相信各位退輔會的同仁都非常清楚過去因為沒有妥善的管理那使得呢這一些退降的就他們結了婚之後呢他們的這個因為他應該是單身退社 |
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但是呢他們結了婚之後他們的家人跟孩子也住在那裡那當時過去這是一個歷史工業過去沒有激情性的管理導致他們都住在那裡那住久了之後現在他們年紀也大了那他們的這個先生也去世之後他們住在那裡現在被排站 |
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那人數很多所以呢就引起了其實有很大的爭議是不願意走然後被提告然後呢就我們在這整體的這個像包含是五星推設到我新設到我山莊到我新莊等等地方那就遭受到蠻大的就我們選區上面的民眾的衝擊而且很多的這一些遺裝他們是弱勢 |
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對所以我希望的地方是說我之前都是跟就是這個軍備局因為那是軍備局的地那我們來談這個事情但是我覺得我覺得他們都是退將的遺孀退將的子女那我覺得退輔會也應該要加入一起去協助 |
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哪怕是跟他們溝通請他們離開我在這裡並沒有想要去要求國防部去做違法的事情說那讓他們不要走我是希望他們可以依照法律離開但是這中間的溝通那我們去溝通其實我說真的難度很高那你們是退府會跟他們的過去他們的這些夫妻這個夫妻之間然後很多 |
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有這個退伍軍人啦退伍軍人對不起退伍軍人那他們有很多的這個情感的交流那你們在這個退輔會吼那就應該我覺得要跟他們去做良好的溝通那鼓勵他們說看有什麼方式跟軍備局等等喔那一起去請他們就是在 |
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跟委員報告是好,那晚點稍微 |
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第一我尊重各位人的意見不過我是建議說因為凍結30或20有時候影響運作這個我們可以再討論一下那有關單身退伍軍人的宿舍問題我們在第9屆的時候其實專案討論過那時候專案我還負責 |
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他那個當年是蔣經國先生為了照顧未婚的單身軍人所以在各軍區用宿舍軍備局那時候也不叫軍備局就是用那樣子來安置他們所以他的前提一定是單身是民國60幾年的事情那 |
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後來就隸屬各作戰區的政戰部門來負責管理後來產生什麼問題呢?我們那時候把它分樣態其實花了很多年的時間並沒有說一定不盡人情的他的遺孀、眷屬都清除第一類我們那時候還有發現住在裡面的單身退員根本毫無關係毫無關係還經營商開什麼理髮部洗衣店用的是免費的軍區的水電 |
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那個水電費當時我們看到報表嚇了一大跳甚至於還有原來的中國籍配偶也跟那個單身退員無關把他在中國的配偶也接來然後整個這各地都有這種情形所以我們當時候好像分了四大類還是幾大類分別營商的先停止有侵佔還用的公家的水電免費的水電這個都優先處理所以我個人贊成的是人性化處理尊重歷史的因素 |
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但是不容許完全百分之百毫無關係的違法營商因為那個不是本意那邊大概都是比較低階的過去的那些單身退員都是比較低階的倒是沒有將軍等級的啦那現在這個其實業館是屬於國防部並沒有到退輔會因為他們當時我們當面的時候還遇到那個很年長的老伯伯當士官長的大概就是那一種所以那個都沒有到退輔會來所以我是建議說我們可以要求退輔會去 |
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（處理委員（ |
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好 謝謝基本上這個案子我想其實是非常久遠的一個歷史共業那王定宇委員剛剛也做了說明那我提案的原因就是因為我們知道在113年度那麼增加了77萬但是如果根據目前我們看到單身宿舍從自治會的人數清潔工的人數甚至於聯絡人人數都是減少 |
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的狀況底下那麼顯然就如同王帝委員所說的就在內部裡面的人他恐怕都不是在我們建制檔案裡面但是我們看到的是這個有關於牌站的訴訟費用其實是增加了161萬顯然也是有一些法律的問題我們退府會必須要持續後續來處理那麼到底狀況是什麼我們身為國防外交委員會的委員們其實都是非常關注的 |
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如果沒有一個詳盡的包括現在目前宿舍所使用的所謂戰用情況以及排戰的進度那麼以及後續的規劃那麼這筆錢到底怎麼用我們就真的不好來監督所以說本席才會提出說凍結77萬 |
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因為我相信所有的委員關心這個案子都是希望協助政府來做後續的處理而且是站在一種合理合法合規的情況底下所以本期才會提出凍結77萬那麼希望在一定的比例底下希望你們能做出一個報告提供我們參考跟了解 |
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是,謝謝委員,我會提出報告因為本案增加了77萬但是真正影響到單身退員的宿舍居住的品質自治會長清潔工聯絡人人數反而減少所以請退不會說明減少原因及會不會影響到單身 |
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委員會主管 |
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好那徐小青委員還是我們就是我這邊還是堅持吼那我150萬我可以接受那因為這個在我的因為吳欣現在大多數的吼我回應一下定雲委員因為你們剛剛講的這個部分都已經排除了吼第一階段的部分都已經排除完畢了 |
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那在我的選區裡面的無薪退社到我新社到我山莊到我新莊裡面的那其實真的他們都不是所謂剛剛講的這種什麼佔用水電費啊或者是說他們來營商啊這類的那他們都是屬於遺孀能夠排除的我們都盡量請他移開了那我也跟國防部這邊做了很多的努力那過去沒有辦法把他們因為我交退輔會也有跟他們就是去做談嘛那但是移不走 |
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那是過去是因為他們就是還沒有被告但現在他們都已經進到訴訟裡面了大我新社他甚至自己裝了電表自己付錢他們都是有做到這個程度所以他們並沒有去利用我們國家的經費去拿我們國家的錢去付自己的電所以我剛剛舉出的這四個新裝退社他們是這個情況 |
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那過去沒有辦法離開的原因可能是因為他們就覺得還可以再撐一陣子但他們現在所有的人都是進到訴訟當中那他們就變成是說他們被告可能要賠錢那在這個時間點上面如果退府會能夠去多幫一點忙再幫他們安排去看有沒有地方可以住我覺得這是有機會的那我也不會只針對退府會因為我知道這些土地也是國防部這裡所以我在國防部那邊我也會提出同樣的要求 |
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對但是因為這在我的選區裡面那很多的民眾來跟我陳情所以對我來說呢我可能會比其他的委員在這件事情上面我更需要站在比較強硬的角度所以呢我希望在這個部分大家可以尊重 |
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在選區上希望回饋給民眾讓他們知道我們真的是很認真我也相信退輔會會盡力所以這也只是凍結而已凍結的話我希望金額能夠150萬大家能夠與同意謝謝 |
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跟委員報告我們接受150萬的凍結謝謝委員的指導但是是不是能夠改成書面資料我們提供詳細的書面資料讓委員能夠了解我們的努力是經同意之後再書面資料經同意可以是謝謝委員 |
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好那我們31到34案我們就以32案徐巧欣委員的32案為主案然後凍結150萬然後提出書面報告並經同意使得凍支接下來35案 |
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第35案系第5目一般行政02基本行政工作維持提案委員委省博洋委員已是委員辦公室說明及提供資料配合委員提案凍結100萬提書面報告後時可動之報告完畢 |
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沈博洋委員好 謝謝退輔會那我簡短說明一下就是說呢因為畢竟最近有蠻多案子的那很多全責是在國防部啦但是因為退輔會畢竟有一些行政給予的一些業務救學啊安置啊什麼等等之類的所以呢我們是希望能夠也是提升退輔會的主體性那變成說退輔會也可以去增加這一些如果他去濫用他自己的這個位置去參與這些這個不應當的行為的一些成本啦那就是希望修法能夠往那個方向是 我們尊示拜你 |
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審博洋委員動解100萬提出書面報告並經同意時的動資36至38案 |
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召委好委員好第36至第38案是第5目一般行政02基本行政工作維持業務費第36至第37案提案委員為馬文君委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料懇請委員不檢列預算同意合併凍結100萬元提出書面報告進經同意後使得凍資 |
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第38案提案委員為馬文君委員以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料懇請同意改組決議辦理報告完畢馬文君委員這三個提案3637其實它的性質比較相近就是說之前我們有提到在 |
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這個融民公司他已經都進入清算階段而且好幾年前都已經說是最後階段了那還有這樣的人力有來做過說明可是我們希望可以儘速解決如果說有什麼樣的一些後續的工作不要拖太久運用這樣的人力同意冰凍100萬 |
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那也請提供那個農業公司他的土地標售的一些相關資料就這個部分那38案我們同意改成主決議因為剛剛前面有一案大概也是一樣的我們是跟其他委員併案不過在這裡特別再提一下就是說我們在114年是抗戰勝利80週年 |
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請王定宇召委 |
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6757.581 |
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我對決議沒有意見我是請問一下也跟我們的農民公司有關係在台南農旗的歐興公司欠我們退輔會的錢到底還完了沒還差多少現在大概我們第一階段 |
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我們農民工跟他和解和解完以他第一期付款已經給我們了和解是金額不變改分期賠付是不是對對對那他還是要照賠款他有照時間賠付嗎有有有都按照時間我們都管制了因為其實那一塊是全世界唯三的那種只有三個地方有Georgia跟台灣那個二地形本來說他如果賠不起的話我們當年是以地做股 |
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6809.355 |
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以地作股49%的股份後來被他用經營公司的方法把你們稀釋到只剩20幾%那如果他賠付有困難的話我們為什麼不把他欠的金額改成用地還給我們把國家的地要回來否則你們讓了50公頃的地給他那個地方現在變國家地質公園的預訂地然後當然台南市政府跟你們撥交有一些問題就是說 |
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6811.716 |
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請示上級單位說改成把地還給我們來抵債 |
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我們當年是把地給他來當股所以把它逆向回來我覺得這對我們這個地方的發展或者這種珍貴地質的永續保存會比較重要另外 |
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6877.376 |
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你們還有一席董事他們那裡要去裝太陽能板的事業是萬萬不可他們也評估過萬萬不可如果這樣子的話我們地方是不只是會抗爭因為那個地形不能做這樣的事情而且那裡土地容易崩塌大家那個會加速破壞那個二地形這兩件事情交代給你們好不好謝謝委員 |
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好,謝謝那我們現在就是36、37案並案然後由馬文君委員然後36為主案嘛,凍結100萬然後提書面報告並經同意使得凍資然後退伍會要回覆書面報告內容要那委員所推詢的部分要一併回覆然後38案馬文君委員的提案改成主決議然後接下來39案 |
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各位委員好我是行政管理處處長張光宇第39案系第5目一般行政02基本行政工作維持設備及投資提案委員馬文勳委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料懇請委員同意預算照列 |
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6932.322 |
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6939.406 |
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謝謝主席39案本是同意照列不過因為我們在很多預算上面我們還是希望有一些設備或者我們要採買的這些相關的包括這一次是空氣清淨機大家在巡駕的時候應該要省慎一點就是如果可以遵截還是要遵截是謝謝委員指導謝謝同意照列 |
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39.馬文君委員提案照列40. |
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6961.889 |
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報告第40案,系第5目,一般行政,零三幹部在職集,亦難替代訓練 |
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提案委員為林楚瑩委員,以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料,懇請委員不檢列預算,同意凍結54萬元,提出素面報告後,使得凍置。好,我知道你們有來說明,但是本席基本上是非常支持退輔會的預算,因為我也算是榮卷,所以說 |
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7004 |
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但是你們從相較於113年度你們的預算是增加將近一倍但是在這個編列的過程當中卻沒有寫出這個原因那麼我可以同意就是用凍結的方式但是我希望你們未來在預算編列的時候必須讓委員能夠看得出來而不是後續我叫你來說明然後你才說明說因為是什麼退除役的特考兩年才一招 |
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所以去年沒有編列所以今年放進來就比去年來的多然後再來是替代役員額增加然後訓練三天變五天等等我認為這個都是後續你們才不給我的答案但是我希望你們未來在這個部分能夠更合適的編列或是做更詳盡的說明好嗎好那事實案就林楚瑜委員提案我們就凍結54萬 |
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然後提出書面報告並經同意時的動資接下來41到43案 |
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7064.249 |
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第41至43案並案系第5目一般行政零事辦理統計與資訊管理作業業務費提案委員分別為馬文君委員、徐曉欣委員均已至委員辦公室說明並提供相關資料懇請合併凍結一百萬元提書面報告並經統一後使得動之 |
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7089.478 |
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7102.633 |
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馬文君委員謝謝大概4143的這個部分因為我們主要的提案內容是因為我們在看到現在社會上詐騙的情況非常的氾濫非常嚴重那榮民其實受騙的這個機率也非常的高 |
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7110.6 |
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7122.287 |
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所以在我們有很多不管在訪視也好或者在很多我們的APP啊LINE啊或者其他的可以利用的工具盡量可以去讓他們可以知道說怎麼樣去防範或者怎麼樣去預防這些詐騙然後如果有碰到疑似的問題應該要怎麼樣協助解決我想就這一些希望可以提供比較積極的一個協助的方案 |
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7138.437 |
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提出書面報告並經同意使得動資 |
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接下來44案到52案 |
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第44至52案並案（第5目一般行政臨時辦理統計與資訊管理（作業（設備及投資提案委員分別為（林益君（王定宇趙偉（還有陳冠廷委員（黃能委員（陳永康委員等（均與自委員辦公室進行說明（並提供相關資料（懇請合併凍結一百萬（並提書面報告後（使得動之 |
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7200.191 |
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7225.18 |
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這個是有關資安風險這個資安本身成為一個很大的事業危害資安也變成很大的一個暗黑事業特別是公家機關不管是對database各資甚至於整個運作資安是一個大事情那本席看了一下你們的資安事件發生二三級高風險的占比率比較高到四成左右 |
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7246.123 |
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所以可能我們的資安防護能力資安專責人員是不是還要再訓練像台南我的選區有這個國科會的資安中心嘛資安大樓他兩棟各企業連那個最大型的企業都會派人去裡面受訓學功夫回來學會怎麼保護自己的部分所以我還是強調說 |
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7247.584 |
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7262.63 |
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現代社會以往的科程組織分門別列部會不同老死不相往來都沒關係可是現代社會每一件事情幾乎都跨部會的從醫療、長照、治安所以我會建議就是說我們退府會 |
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7286.575 |
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是不是要有專責的資安人員甚至每個單位要有人有點像我們以前部隊帶兵我一個連裡面一定要有一個醫護啊專長的EMT至少到EMT2啊類似這樣子然後呢詢問一下國科會他們在資安中心我們那個叫做Cyber Security他那個資安中心是國家級的他每一段時間都固定會收訓訓練你怎麼防護 |
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7289.135 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
黃任惠委員 |
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7318.211 |
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7341.701 |
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所以今本案經說明在113年度已全數的完工那12月15號驗收完成付款執行率即可達到百分之百提醒退補會明年的案子還有八所農家要建置無線網路務必注意到執行的期程以上同意兵案一百萬兵棟一百萬好來陳冠廷委員 |
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7349.054 |
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7372.489 |
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剛才王定宇趙薇還有的分享就是關於這個資安通報的事件那還有這個我想要請教一下因為我看到這裡面的整個重整系統裡面那對於這個資安人員的剛才講到說都是跨部會的這些訓練的部分是不是也可以在書面報告裡面再跟我們更加的詳細的說明不是只有說他拿到什麼證照 |
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7373.89 |
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7374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
主席 |
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7403.083 |
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好那我們44案到52案我們以那個陳永康委員因為他我要分配一下陳永康委員的49案當作主案然後凍結100萬提出書面報告並經同意使得凍資還有退輔會要回覆書面報告的內容要包括剛才病案委員所追尋的部分接下來53到55案 |
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7423.889 |
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7440.026 |
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第53至55併案系第五目一般行政05辦理榮民工程公司清理計劃提案委員為林益君昭委及黃仁委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料肯請合併凍結50萬元提出書面報告後使得凍資 |
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7450.695 |
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好 因為這個在辦公室都是有溝通過了嘛那我們53到55併案我們讓那個黃仁委員好了讓他55案為主案凍結50萬一樣提出書面報告並經同意使得凍支接下來56案謝謝周委 |
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| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
7479.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
第56案（西第六幕（榮民醫療照護（提案委員為林益君昭偉（以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料（配合委員提案凍結100萬元（提書面報告後使得凍支 |
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7483.629 |
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7487.53 |
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好這56案的話因為我們花東的醫療的資源比較缺乏尤其是願意下鄉服務的醫生其實很少所以我是希望退伍會可以針對公費生的訓練還有留任除了要加強誘因之外還要如何透過公費生願意留在花東地區還有一些偏鄉地區為當地的民眾服務也是你們退伍會榮總體系應該要多挹注一些資源來想這些方法 |
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7511.155 |
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7511.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
委員指導 |
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7527.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
7533.317 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
第57至58病案C.D.六目榮民醫療照護01對榮民及特定醫療體系之補助提案委員為陳冠廷委員以致委員辦公室書名及提供資料懇請委員同意合併凍結兩百萬元提書面報告後使得凍資 |
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7557.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
7558.251 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
陳冠廷委員陳冠廷委員陳冠廷委員陳冠廷委員陳冠廷委員 |
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7587.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
7590.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
選57案以57案為主案凍結200萬順便報告並經同意時的凍資接下來59案 |
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7601.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
7629.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
第59案至60案稀第6目榮民醫療照護01對榮民及特定醫療體系之補助講補助費第59案提案委員為馬文君委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料懇請委員不檢列預算同意凍結100萬元提書面報告後使得凍支第60案提案委員為沈伯陽委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料或委員同意改為主決議 |
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7632.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
7635.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
請麻煩軍委員謝謝主席針對59案的部分這個是退府會對於補助各種分院收容被棄養的一般民眾以及榮民移眷的這些精神病患所需要的伙食費那在114年明年渡編了438萬6千元 |
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7655.111 |
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7655.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
委員會主席 |
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7676.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
7676.318 |
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委員會主管收支部分 |
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甚至應該積極透過警政戶政或者財政稅務機構要去通知那個病患的家屬要取得聯繫因為如果說自己的家屬用這樣惡意的方式我覺得這個也是在社會上應該是不容許的另外一方面對於我們的整個預算也可以比較符合我們的施政目標在這裡我們希望可以取得一個平衡點那同意 |
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並動100萬好那我們59案就馬文君委員提案齁凍結100萬那提出提書面報告那馬文君委員要經過同意嗎使得動之經過同意齁再使得動之那接下來60案 |
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60案提案委員為沈博洋委員,已經到委員辦公室說明及提供資料,獲得委員同意改為主決議。 |
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好那60案是沈博洋委員齁然後這一個60案改成組決議那61案61案C第6目榮民醫療照護02長期照顧與身心障礙醫療復健服務提案委員為馬文君委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料配合委員提案凍結100萬元提書面報告後使得凍支 |
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這一筆主要是針對因為我們退輔會在僱傭照服務員我們人數總數是減少的可是經費沒有改變這個部分到底它是為了什麼就是說你是經費沒有改變的情況之下可是我們用的人以前430幾個那現在只剩下400個所以你在 |
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那到底是多少才夠每一個我們希望在這個案子這個提案裡面把相關的比如說我們農家每一個到底需要多少相關的這些照護人力然後把那個配比把它列出來然後提供給我們提供給本市 |
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因為公費救養的榮民數量減少主要是為了兆福園的部分我們希望能夠再調整基礎薪資從3萬元調到3萬3千元因為那個基礎薪資也是當時我們提出來的那應該要合理的去給付這樣的相關薪資沒有錯可是你在人數上面要怎麼樣去統計他實際的需求因為你只是口頭說我們不曉得 |
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所以你在增加的減少人數可是在經費不變的情況之下還是把那個實際的需求把它提出來然後核實編列是謝謝委員指導謝謝 |
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馬文君委員提案凍結一百萬提出書面並經同意時的凍資還有退伍會要回覆書面報告的內容請包括剛才委員所推詢的部分一定列入 |
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第62案西第六目榮民醫療照護 長期照顧與身心障礙醫療復健服務 獎補助費提案委員為馬文君委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料 配合委員提案凍結兩百萬元提書面報告後使得動之 |
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馬文君委員謝謝主席就這個部分在明年的預算我們總共編列了1億701萬那預算增加的部分是1300多萬明年的預算其實增加了不少那來說明的時候主要是說針對這些鄉牙就假牙補助他全口跟非全口然後還有一些輔具是什麼樣的輔具 |
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府區有那個駐聽器還有議員那以前不是都有嗎主要是那個涉及到他的單價調漲另外就是我們那個深情補助的對象有增加低收入戶還有中低收入戶的這個榮民所以人數有增加到大概5000人次左右原來是多少他增加5000人增加大概5000人次光是榮民就增加5000人的中低跟低中低是一般的民眾中低是一般民眾 |
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主席主席 |
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我們這次修正這個向委員報告我們這次修正這個部分向鄉牙的部分我補充一下我們原來是要全口無牙才能夠做全口那我們這次開放有到三顆牙的部分就讓他們納為可以補助的對象另外一個就是我們針對榮民不是公費救養但是他家庭的狀況不好 |
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中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分 |
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一個是物價的調漲 現在 物價調漲 因為那個其他衛福部也都有編預算 縣市政府也有編預算我們現在講的是 因為你是把山科亞增加進去你也沒有做過調查 所以你能夠編出這樣的預算我不知道你為什麼會說 因為增加那個人數到底增加多少 或者他的經費多少我看不出來你們有提供這樣相關的資料我意思是說你增加的是什麼樣的對象 |
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我們在書面上面在詳細的向委員做報告剛剛口頭上的也就初步讓委員報告第一個 襄陽的部分價格也漲了現在原來我們補助全口是4萬塊現在4萬塊根本沒有辦法做到全口所以我們也增加了5萬可是衛福部是編多少 |
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應該都是參考大概大概縣市政府目前我們知道應該是4萬塊喔所以如果是只有你們跟人家不一樣然後你還有納入一些其他的一個身份 |
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一般的民眾他可能也不會排除榮民就不可以 |
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他以前我們沒有我們以前沒有的時候其實在縣市政府其實他還是有幫這些就是只要符合資格他都可以去申請這樣的相關補助所以你這個部分可能要把它理清楚不然你你有你又比人家高然後你現在增加的部分還有還有三顆牙的 |
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他們有那個半口的啦就是非全口嘛你應該要把它離清楚因為你這樣等於一國好幾次啊你有些其他部會是這樣然後你定的是自己又跟人家不一樣所以這個要把它講清楚因為你們來說明的時候並沒有很明確的講這些然後還有縣市政府其實他是有合作的診所那有簽約那我們退府會有沒有 |
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我們也有合約的但主要也是鼓勵鼓勵到我們榮民醫院裡面的這個裡面來做有沒有簽約因為你如果你是鼓勵嘛那不要他如果沒有那萬一發生一些糾紛或者在經費的支出上面有問題那你怎麼辦因為縣市政府他是有簽約的所以我們到底有沒有也沒有很明確的一個說法 |
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裝置假牙全口半口或是說你現在要增加第三顆 |
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是 謝委員 |
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馬文鈞委員提案人凍結兩百萬提出書面報告並經同意時的凍資還有剛才委員所詢問的退委會回覆的書面內容一併併入第63案西第六幕榮民醫療照護03各級榮民醫院營運督導管理 |
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提案委員為林楚英委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料勳請委員不檢列預算同意凍結100萬元提書面報告後使得凍支 |
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主席謝謝我想這個題目就是有關於我們4間總院跟12家分院針對保險理賠一起通的這個部分我也質詢過我剛剛手上拿到的最新訊息目前的話是4家分院已經上線然後還有些已經是簽約那麼有一些是還在預計簽約當中 |
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那我們都知道其實我特別簡略的這個部分就是各級醫院的督導跟考核裡面的相關的費用嘛包括就是醫療服務品質的提升那我們知道這個其實就是服務醫療品質提升非常重要的如果你們希望我從不簡略改為就是凍結我可以但是問題是我解凍的要求 |
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不是說三個月就給你們解凍喔是我要要求全部都可以上線喔你們有辦法做到嗎我們會朝向全部上線的目標邁進如果沒有上線是不能解凍那你們就會凍100喔還是你們就是因為這四間總院有四家嗎我就減列40萬至少你們可以有時間因為上線的過程這個部分我非常理解因為你們還有器材還有設備還有要溝通 |
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所以我問一下主委跟副主委就是的意見是你們要動100但是要全部上線可以使用我才會願意解凍這是我的要求不然的話就是簡列40萬就等於是這四間總院要負起這個所謂監督的責任對因為我要求的就是這個服務要能夠上線簡列40好謝謝委員 |
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六十三案（臨除營委員提案簡列40萬科目自行調整 |
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第64至66案西第六目榮民醫療照護05一是人力培訓及專業教育訓練第64及66案提案委員分別為馬文君委員陳冠廷委員軍議制委員辦公室說明及提供資料懇請委員同意合併凍結一百萬元提書面報告後使得動之第65案提案委員為王定宇召委吳立華委員 |
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以提供說明資料或委員同意改為主決議辦理 |
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針對公私利益學校我們待訓的部分因為我們有編列這樣相關的預算大概就是包括一些學校儀器的費用學雜費等等其實這些都含在內那這些培訓生我們現在人數也在減少是不是 |
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陪續人數是有減少所以其實我們也希望說像剛剛可能也有提到我們現在的護理人員其實缺額非常的高就高達兩萬五千人那包括像這些醫生的人力這樣子的公費我們希望說針對偏鄉的醫院他所缺的科別去做一些可能 |
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同意併動一百萬 |
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陳冠廷委員 |
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提出面報告．使得動資王定宇提案改組決議67至69案 |
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第67至69案．第6目榮民醫療照護05醫事人力培訓與專業教育訓練講補助費第67案提案委員為黃人委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料或委員同意改為主決議辦理 |
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第68案提案委員為陳永康委員,以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料,懇請委員同意預算照列第69案提案委員為陳冠廷委員,以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料,懇請委員同意預算照列 |
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陳永康委員我把68案給大家做個說明因為我們的醫師的人才培育就除了這個各公私立學校以外因為現在所謂的高等教育生根計劃那這裡面是可以爭取教育部的贊助但是需要我們這個退輔會協助跟教育部跟衛福部 |
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委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
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國防醫學院的金費是編在國防部底下所以教育部並沒有提供他的高等教育深耕計劃所以這些東西我想透過溝通協助增加深耕計劃的額度對吸引人才將來加入榮民的各種意願是有幫助的這點我是預算照列不凍結 |
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謝偉銘議員 |
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接下来70-71案 |
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70-71病案,系第6目,榮民醫療照護,06,高齡醫學發展與照護提案委員為王定宇召委,馬文君委員,吳立華委員,均以提供書面說明,懇請合併凍結200萬元,提書面報告後,使得凍資王定宇召委 |
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我同意併動兩百萬那這71案主要是針對輔具那我們大概我在當市議員的時候台灣開始推無障礙之家輔具工廠等等那我們近幾年引力加下一段更進步了還有AI照護輔具等等所以我們這個提案是希望說退輔會其實 |
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你們有一個很寶貴的東西包含農民醫院就是你們有大量的data因為你們照顧的人其實夠多經驗夠充足可是這些數據的運用以及輔具運用的經驗然後橫向跟其他部會的溝通可以創造出可以更可以照顧到這些不管是失能或者需要照顧輔助的人還有當attent要去照顧他的人怎麼避免自己受傷讓 |
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做看護的人也得到幫助了所以我們這個洞監是讓你們提出一個說明報告來就你們現有擁有的現在做得不錯的然後怎麼樣去精進經濟包含的運用數據運用新科技還有橫向跟其他部會的合作科技部那邊就是現在國科會 |
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黃德偉委員 |
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8797.681 |
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補充說明在67案剛剛因為有事所以這邊再做一個說明本年度的年底新學期的完成的註冊後預算執行率已達到86%雖然因學生會有休退學的狀況那使預算執行率不可能達到這個100% |
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8818.696 |
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8829.926 |
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對不會也應該協調學校盡量輔導學生完成公費醫師的培育所以本來後來商討之後改成為主決議以上 |
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8839.071 |
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8859.063 |
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七十案的部分這個部分因為我們在榮民醫療照護的這個預算裡面他在高齡醫學發展與照護這個編列預算數高達兩億一千五百九十四萬可是在明年 |
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8860.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
8862.725 |
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推動醫療轉型長照服務模式還有配合衛生福利部住宿機構照顧品質獎勵計畫這兩個部分他主要是什麼可以說明一下嗎先簡要的說明 |
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8886.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
8910.127 |
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就是配服衛福部的長照計畫我們會增開相關的收支的床位床位?可是你這裡不是增加床位啊?增加床位之後我們就開始會針對居家照護的部分來做一個進一步的提升包括佈置這個社區的整體照護服務網路那也會建置這個生理監測的儀器那同時也會有移動的智慧裝備 |
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因為像你說電子維理的這些科技它從過去就有了嘛可是你到底是運用什麼或者要需要什麼樣子的這些產品跟那個裝備可能都不是那麼明確那這個部分我們同意凍結200萬可是要把那個說明清楚還有你增加的部分然後預算的那個配置是謝謝委員指導 |
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8938.968 |
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8940.749 |
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提出書面報告並經同意時的動資（（還有剛才兵案的委員（（所詢問的部分（（退伍會回覆的書面的報告內容要一併列入接下來72案 |
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8962.318 |
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8972.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
第72案（第6目（榮民醫療照護07安寧緩和醫療照護與推廣（提案委員為林楚瑩委員（以提供說明資料（配合委員提案凍結500萬元（提書面報告後使得凍資 |
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8979.786 |
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8981.507 |
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提案委員為陳冠廷委員以提供說明資料 懇請委員同意改為主決議辦理 |
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陳冠廷委員 |
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9025.965 |
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9028.446 |
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第74至75病案,系第75榮民安養及養護,提案委員為羅美玲委員,以示委員辦公室說明及提供資料,而懇請同意合併凍結100萬提書面報告後,使得凍資。 |
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9060.752 |
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這兩案都是我的我同意就是這兩案就是病棟100萬那可是我還是要說明一下我們74案74案是跟我們的人力聘股有關係好像這個 |
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9062.714 |
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9080.587 |
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張嬅、花蓮、馬蘭、屏東跟嘉麗這五家榮家他的辦理業務人數占整體的這個人數的比例只有5到6成當然你之前有來說明就是說這是事務性人力採取欲缺不補的方式希望就是逐步將這個負責的業務外包所以會影響到這個整體的人數的這個比例 |
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9085.111 |
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9085.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
委員會主管收支部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
9105.268 |
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第75案是針對榮家戰床的部分,在去年11月榮家總床數是8782床,戰床率是7048 |
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9125.422 |
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9130.244 |
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整體占床數看起來已經提升到80.26%之前我是看到是不到八成現在有提升到八成可是我們還是要注意就是說我們開放那其中我們有開放給民眾這個床數1649床那是占了這個占床率呢他是在占床數是1418那我們來看一下他的占床率其實是比這個 |
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委員會主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
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9172.472 |
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這部分的話可能希望大家來做一個調整以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
9186.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
9187.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
毛孟靜議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
9208.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
9226.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
所以因為有時候他占床他很長的時間如果他一次就待了10年那你如果把很多的床位把它釋出因為這個我們之前也探討過你把它釋出以後未來如果真的榮民有需要的時候你沒有床位可以給他所以在這個部分要怎麼樣去做適當的那個調整我想可能也要納入全盤的規劃好 黃教委員請 |
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因為農家暫存率是一個長期以來的問題一直到現在所以退不回雖然為了調配需求保留部分的床位但不同的農家需求量也不一樣退不回應該要更細緻的規劃尤其是開放開放一般民眾的床暫存率只有18.78%原因就是因為退不回目前來講的話也應該要精進加強 |
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| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
主席 |
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9285.718 |
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第76至83案系第七目融力安養及養護01基本行政工作維持業務費第76案提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
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委員馬文君委員以及委員辦公室說明及提供資料,懇請委員同意凍結100萬,提書面報告後,使得凍資。第77至83案,提案委員分別為李毅君,王定宇,趙偉,馬文君,黃仁,陳冠廷及李楚瑜等委員,均以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料,懇請委員不檢列預算,同意合併凍結200萬,提書面報告後,使得凍資。 |
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9337.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
王定宇召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
9351.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
9367.165 |
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謝謝我同意病案凍結200萬這個提案其實是一個我還是站在鼓勵的角度我們根據數據來看公費榮民的床位需求的類別是養護床77.7%安養床77.7% |
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9372.168 |
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自費榮民的床位需求類別是施治床85%養護床82.4%還有一般民眾自費的床位需求類別是養護床85.9%安養床80.3%所以我們會發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
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9406.658 |
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不同類別他的需求有重疊的也有不一樣的像這個自費的私置床的比例就高達85那公費農民的需求都未達八成所以本席是具體建議就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
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9424.127 |
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退伍會在這一塊的部分可以在床位類別之間的床數的分配調控人力資源器材的配置的調控可以跟著這個數據來調就是我分配的資源要根據需求方 |
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9425.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
主席毛孟基委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
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9466.503 |
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主要77案因為跟其他委員並動的這個部分77案因為我們看到我們勞務外包的人力就我們退輔會有照服員護理師警衛出工清潔員駕駛水電鍋爐鍋爐鍋爐要燒熱水現在還有燒熱水有他鍋爐裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
9477.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
9488.771 |
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用鍋爐的這個部分安養機構那因為我們看到我們看到這一些部分就是勞務外包的經費因為在114年新增預算達到兩億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
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9512.893 |
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所以就這麼多的勞務外包我們有幾個方向其實也可以去探討看看除了剛剛提到的因為容家委外的人力這麼多那之前比如說像我們大概又都是現在已經都趨向給 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
9515.494 |
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9515.735 |
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委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
9542.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
9542.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
委員會主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
9573.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
9575.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
投資公司對不對我們退伍會裡面有一家投資公司嘛比如像我們這樣子的一個模式你都已經需要用到這麼多的勞派錢的這些外包人力那你這個投資公司可不可以去選擇幾個比較好的然後去做這樣的投資一方面也可以讓我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
9599.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
9608.71 |
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退伍的一些跑者他可能有工作機會不然你每次去受訓都找不到工作那大家對那個剛剛那些訓練課程越來越沒有興趣那如果像這些你如果做過專業訓練以後又可以到這邊來做服務也許你可以創造更多的這樣的機會那你轉投資公司不要每次我們做都是賠錢的那好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
9621.636 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9622.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
委員會主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
9642.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
9651.753 |
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的工作我相信也比較容易掌控所以這個部分就這些可能可以提出比較積極的一個做法另外就是說這76案的部分這是單獨凍結因為我們看到我們榮家的公務車來源其實還蠻多的第一個就公務預算第二個有一般機構或個人贈送的 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
9671.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
9679.045 |
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好像一些救護車或者很多民眾其實也喜歡捐贈這一些那第三個就是租用車的這項需求可是我們看到容家的正職駕駛並不多所以你甚至都是委外聘用剛剛我們念到的那些外包的人力裡面就有駕駛那你又要委外聘用這些司機駕駛然後你現在又要租車因為你的車輛 |
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9699.102 |
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9699.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
委員會主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
9715.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
9721.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
委託給外包的這些機構的價值到底分別有多少我想還要把那個數據提供出來不然因為這樣我覺得可能我們現在這樣很可惜那另外還有就是你們在這個編列的預算裡面這個很高可是 |
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9733.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
9733.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
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是這些嗎?還是你們又新找的?我們明年要開始租用公開招標小規模的小規模的所以那些不見得他們還是來參與所以就這些部分因為你增加的智慧床墊 |
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9773.931 |
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9774.211 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
委員會主管收支部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
9796.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
9800.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
租車、智慧床墊、電池、辦公室物機具這些為什麼一定都是要租賃有一些如果你是常態性的使用比如說像智慧床墊你們以前好像已經合作很久了不管是跟什麼樣的一個對象那你到底為什麼是要用租的那他的金額會不會更高他支出的預算會不會有什麼差異這個應該也要 |
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9825.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
9826.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
提出一些數據資料﹖是﹖ |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
9855.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
76.盲軍委員提案凍結100萬提出書面資料並經同意時的凍資77.到83案 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
9870.299 |
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77到83我們以我們分配一下嘛我們以79案為主案就王定宇委員提出的然後凍結兩百萬然後提書面報告時的凍資接下來我們84案 |
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第84案系第7目（農民安養及養護01基本行政工作維持（設備及投資提案委員（馬文君委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料（懇請委員不檢列預算（同意凍結200萬提出運報後或使得凍資 |
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9904.219 |
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9929.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
馬文菊委員謝謝主席這個部分我們也是希望提出整體說明因為來說的時候其實還是有一些沒有很清楚還有一些相關的一些數據資料第一就是說你智慧的生理監測儀器到底是什麼然後需要多少數量因為你這一次又有新增預算那每年其實大概就這些部分你新增的部分到底說明清楚 |
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| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
9935.578 |
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他的需求性到底在哪裡第一個就是生理檢測儀器第二個手動變電動的護理床這個一直在換所以你到底需要多少預算你到底需要多少數量你的騎乘有多少因為你的床數就差不多是這樣 |
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9950.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
9962.962 |
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那你到底需要總數多少然後你的預算到底要多少然後你要分多少期程去把它完備你應該要一次做出來你不要每年增加一些然後這些項目連連總總的全部都含在裡面大家都看不出來 |
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9966.766 |
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9970.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
這是第二個你應該要有一個全盤的規劃那你現在一直在引進這些科技的一些設備那你在人力上面的需求是不是要減少就這個部分它是不是有可替代性這個也應該要一併說明清楚你的科技產品有哪些然後它的效益是什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
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馬文君委員提案凍結200萬 |
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還是一樣提出書面報告並經同一時的動之然後接下來85案然後85案等一下結束之後我們就先休息5分鐘 |
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就學就業處處長報告第85案系第9目一般建築及設備第一節營建工程01退出役官兵職業訓練中心防射整建工程提案委員為馬文君委員已經到委員辦公室說明及提供資料懇請委員不檢列預算同意凍結300萬提書面報告後使得動之 |
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這個部分有來做一個初步的說明不過因為這個是三年的一個工程從113年到115年那預算數大概3900萬決標的金額是3600萬那你今年說要做電力設施這些相關的改善我們希望你把它一次說清楚因為你既然是三年那決標數也出來了那第一年第二年第三年分別要做什麼預算配置大概多少一次把它講清楚這樣大家在看預算的時候也比較容易 |
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同意凍結300萬謝謝委員85案馬文君委員提案凍結300萬然後提書面報告並經同意時得凍資現在休息5分鐘 |
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委員會主管 |
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委員會主席委員會主席 |
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法定人數不足 |
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好,那我們就繼續 |
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第86（91案中央租倉報告第86（91案系第9目一般建築及設備第一階營建工程零二安養機構房設及生活設施整建工程提案委員馬文君、徐曉新、陳冠廷、陳永康、林益君、張偉及黃瀾委員均與這委員辦公室說明及提供資料根據委員不簡略預算同意合併凍結兩百萬提書面報告使得凍資 |
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為針對這個案子總共有17件的工程案到今年的9月底這個完成了這個全數完成的發包對不對那深造及設計等為什麼要花在這麼長的時間這是第一點 |
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另外其中16項的工程會在年底竣工請在提供的報告詳細的列出每一項竣工的時間是所以本席建議凍結200萬是先讓人知道 |
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馬蒙茱委員 |
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我們希望因為主委也是之前在國防部擔任部長嘛那其實那時候我們有很多的不管是銀色的改善各方面其實他也是全盤全部都已經有把那個項目比如說要做100項都已經把它全部都 |
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都把它整合起來大概都有全盤的規劃可是按照預算的需求再去做每年你的期程再把它編出來不然又有些輕重緩急因為我們看到你在家裡容家他的住床數跟入住意願其實相對都比較低的可是我們在明年在這個部分卻要執行兩項比較大的工程 |
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我們覺得這樣好像很奇怪有些容家好像人還比較多住房率還比較高可是你反而沒有去做一些改善那挑選家裡容家這樣的目的不知道是什麼就是說這個部分那你在這個現在容家除了台南是新的以外其他都是比較老舊的我們不反對你重新去做整建 |
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議員是要說明是 |
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徐小琴委員關於安養機構防射生活設施改建工程我們退府會在113年有編了7800多萬的榮家更新跟1億9千萬在臺南跟雲林榮家的改進跟營造中程計劃但是你們在提供給我們的書面資料裡面 |
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你們提到說呢這個114年有19件工程案編列所以是6250萬元那但是呢這19件工程案是什麼在提供給我們的書面資料裡面是沒有說明的所以呢我是希望說能夠 |
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委員會議委員會議委員會議 |
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86案到91案我們就並案處理我們以87案徐巧興委員的為主案然後凍結200萬其他都當共同提案人 |
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提書面報告並經同意時的動資（（還有剛剛有一些並案委員所追尋的部分（（退入會回覆的書面報告內容要一併錄接下來92案到94案第92至94案系第9目一般建築及設備第一階營建工程03提升私製照顧量能長照萬委員區中層計劃提案委員分別徐曉清馬文君陳冠廷等委員 |
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據自委員辦公室說明及提供資料肯請同意合併凍結200萬提書面報告後使得凍資好陳冠廷委員好謝謝謝謝張偉我們看到這個有跟我們說明的部分有說巴德板橋是有變革設計還有地方政府的延宕所以說才導致這樣子資訊率偏低零的狀況那當然我們希望說也不是只有地方政府希望強調一下就是能夠 |
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會不趕快跟他們好好的溝通盡快把它完成不然這實在是臨實在是真的是不好看是是 |
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馬文居委員有意見嗎是同意併動不過我們在這裡可能還是要強調一下因為我們的經費其實是從10億1000多萬增加到16億8000萬其實他調漲的那個經費其實很高那當然現在這幾年大概講的都是原物料啦人力啦什麼可是 |
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當你這些預算金額已經調高以後我們希望你的期程一定要準時完工這個可能要在進度上面要去掌控是好那我們92到94案閉案處理我們還是以92案徐巧欣委員為主案然後凍結200萬然後提書面報告然後使得凍資 |
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95-96案第95-96案系第9目一般建築及設備第一節營建工程03提升私事照顧量能長照萬我園區中層計劃設備及投資提案委員分別為林毅君昭偉黃仁偉元郡議制委員辦公室說明及提供資料肯請同意合併凍結200萬提書面報告時的凍資 |
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好換了委員 |
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常在萬我園區經過增加預算和計劃的展延所以現在的進度乃然落後所以什麼時候能追上預算的進度所以本席建議凍結200萬是我們說明清楚還有就是現在因為是高齡化的問題比較大失智的問題其實陸續是在增加的但現在退伍會的失智園區到現在進度還是持續的落後到底是發生什麼情況還有現在未來 |
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是不是會有機會除了給農民安置之外是不是有機會開放給偏鄉或低收入的安家庭來安置呢我們順便再把說明清楚好那95案96案我們就並案處理了我們以96案為主案黃人的提案為主案然後凍結200萬提書面報告然後使得凍資接下來97到99案 |
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総委及各位委員好行政管理處長不好意思不好意思97案 |
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行政管理處處長專管委報告第97案系第9目一般建築及設備第一節營建工程向下04會本部房設整建工程提案委員是徐巧欣委員本案已提供書面說明資料懇請同意凍結100萬元提書面報告後並經同意使得通知 |
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好的那我這邊說明一下就是這在立法院的預算中心裡面過往的評估報告裡面那去年這個有1285萬那這個做這個防水隔熱嘛然後呢今年這個在說明裡面臺北勞務中心已經有臺北榮總規劃納入信義院區那這個計劃是尚未核定也沒有動工的所以呢我們想要問一下這有沒有整建的這個必要 |
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那可以同意剛才講到的這個凍結100萬那經過同意之後動之是謝謝委員好就是7案徐巧欣委員提案的凍結100萬然後提書面報告使得動之接下來就是8案 |
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招委好我是服務照顧處處長第98案系第9目一般建築及設備第二節交通及運輸設備01服務機構車輛太過提案委員為馬文君委員以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料肯請委員同意凍結20萬提書面報告後使得凍資第99案系 |
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第9目（一般建築及設備（第二節（交通及運輸設備（01服務機構（車輛汰購提案委員（為黃人委員以至委員辦公室說明及提供資料（懇請委員同意合併（第98案凍結20萬提書面報告後（使得凍資 |
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好謝謝主席針對98案的這個部分因為我們看到這個預算主要雖然金額只有143萬可是我們要採購的是16輛的電動車嘛對不對要換機車要換機車換機車那你106年買的是電動車這是要換106年來說明的時候是要換106年106年買電動車不好用喔 |
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跟委員報告,那個是機車,我們是要汰換106年買的機車,因為它已經使用7年了那里程數都已經偏高,因為它是跑外面的紡織服務它如果該換,我們當然不反對,可是因為我們看到的就是說,你這個是106年買的這個機車 |
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11252.836 |
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中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分 |
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各位委員報告謝謝委員的指導跟執政這個後續容加這幾部機車我們會列入報告向委員詳細報告如何來做汰換 |
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統一凍結20萬 |
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黃仁委員原因是因為請提供一下計劃汰換的車輛使用里程和還有車輪這是凍結20萬的理由以上是謝謝委員好98案和99案就並案我們以99案黃仁委員的為主案凍結20萬提出書面報告並經同意時的凍值接下來100到101案 |
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今晚出書報告﹖100-101案系第9目一般建築及設備第二節交通及運輸設備02安養機構車輛太過提議委員副委員馬文君及陳冠廷委員均以致委員辦公室說明及提供資料肯請同意合併凍結100萬提出的報告使得凍資 |
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11397.96 |
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萬庭委員好,簡單說一下,因為我看到他是說21人做的大顆量一輛,總計預算是400萬元,我要說這個的必要性是什麼?因為其實這個21人做的,你說養護的話,其實也是相當不易,而且加上後來的這些保養費用,所以與其需要這樣大型的車輛,是不是可以考慮中型一點的?是,我剛才說明,對,到時候蘇美幫我說明清楚 |
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馬文君委員謝謝主席一百案其實這個跟我們剛剛有一個提案其實是有點關聯性剛剛我們有提到一個是要租賃車輛的部分然後我們大概剛剛有提到我們的來源第一個就是公務預算採購然後就是一般民眾捐的或者第三個就是租賃的那你現在這一個案子是要買 |
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那我們在講說你剛剛有些又要用租賃的然後有些要用買的然後你的考量到底是什麼可是我們現在顯然發現你在勞務外包的人力上面駕駛這個部分是用很大的人力所以你到底需不需要這麼多的車輛因為剛剛講的還要維護 |
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然後你還要有駕駛這樣的人力的配置那是不是符合我們的需求是不是有一些比如說像榮家有時候他們要外出其實你包一輛車他還有駕駛然後還有所有的服務然後你又不用維修那這個部分是不是應該做一個全盤的考量就像我們剛剛講的其實是連貫的就是說你到底有多少車輛你需要多少駕駛你外包的人力的駕駛有多少其實應該要把它列出來 |
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馬文君委員提案為主案 凍結100萬 |
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提書面報告必經同意使得動之。 |
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召委各位委員好我是退出役副處的處長羅馬可第102案系第11幕退出役官兵退休役副提案委員為林玉君召委以致召委辦公室說明及提供資料配合召委提案凍結一千萬元懇請本案提出書面報告經同意後使得凍資 |
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11555.215 |
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因為最近不斷都是我們的退役的高階的將領都跑到中國去參加對岸的活動和對岸都有一些接觸甚至會接受一些中國官方的旅遊的招待所以為了避免中國企圖用各種方式滲透我們國家的安全所以因為有時候連那個宗教的交流也是有這樣 |
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11559.019 |
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所以畢竟這些高階的將領過去都是有掌握我們國家的國安的機密所以不得不謹慎所以希望退伍會對曾經保家衛國的這些退除役官兵尤其是高階的將領赴大陸的規定可以更加嚴謹避免他們被對岸所利用做出對台灣不利的情勢所以這一個案子我凍結一千萬 |
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11586.077 |
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102我提案然後動1000萬然後提書面報告使得動資接下來我們現在現在增加了主決議有第125到132案共有8案請議事人員摘要宣讀 |
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11607.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
11635.256 |
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第125案114年度國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會預算案第二幕退除役官兵就學執訓編列預算17397000元近年來在推動退除役官兵的就學和職業訓練輔導方面應持續關注其學習情況和訓練後的就業成果請退輔會與一個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員王定宇等人 |
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11636.584 |
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11647.902 |
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第126案（114年度國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會預算案與第二幕（退除役官兵救學執訓向下（退除役官兵救學輔導措施中業務費（編列預算140萬元才 |
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11652.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
11670.255 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
查該項預算歷年堅維持不變（考量其歷年合作學校與輔導人數有別（顯見預算編列方式並未合理（允請國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會於2個月內（向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員黃仁等人第127案 |
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11673.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
11688.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
平東榮民總醫院日前發生一名護理師與工作期間因性別認同導致身心狀況不佳。平東榮民總醫院事後卻僅表示﹐初步調查結果不是職場霸凌事件﹐可能為性別友善認知不足有關。 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
11689.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
11712.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
為建立友善公眾環境並強化職員心理輔導機制﹐請退輔會﹐督導所屬機構同仁每年接受性別平等教育﹐建構多元性別友善設施及支持性環境建立透明機制﹐完善職場申訴與資源系統﹐並於3個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告﹐提案人委員沈伯陽等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
11713.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
11723.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
第128案114年度國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會預算案與第6目榮民醫療照護向下醫事人力培訓與專業教育訓練編列預算6,425萬5千元近年來退輔會所屬醫療機構的全日護理人員 |
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11729.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
11744.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
與病患比例都符合標準然而衛福部推行的各層級醫院山班戶病比政策相比仍有進步之空間原警退輔會與一個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員王定宇等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
11746.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
11757.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
第129案（114年度國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會（預算案第6目（農民醫療照護向下醫事人力培訓與專業教育訓練中獎補助費（編列預算6166萬4千元（業務包括補助醫學系（公費生資承辦學校（教學用設備及補助公司利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
11766.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
11791.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
醫學院醫學系公費生培訓經費為考量偏鄉醫療人力缺乏期待醫學系公費生畢業後支援每一位醫學系公費生畢業後對偏鄉醫療都發揮極大的注意援請退輔會積極與各校協調務並盡量使受補助之每一位公費醫學生都能完成學業以投入偏鄉醫療服務提案人委員黃仁等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
11792.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
11821.781 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
第130案有鑒於近年度退輔會所屬訓練機構職技訓練雖頗有成效為對於花東及偏遠地區之退除役官兵予學習參加執訓之便利性仍不夠友善。原此建議退輔會應與國防部及教育部協調、溝通合作未來可將相關執訓或就學課程聯合招生與就近營區開放課程讓現役與退除役官兵共同學習達到全社會防衛任性之意義 |
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11822.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
11843.27 |
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提案委員（林立軍等人（第131案有鑒於明年114年為抗戰勝利（80週年是為御役聲援之重要時刻。建請國軍退出役官兵輔導委員會應緊急宣揚抗戰勝利（80週年精神與榮民節辦理相關系列活動並編制以抗戰為主之 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
11844.028 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
11859.253 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
主體專書刊物（彰顯榮民袍澤共同抵禦外武所創造之勝利（表達對榮民前輩的崇敬與感念提案人委員馬文君等人第132案（退府會與114年度預算擬編40億名偏鄉公費醫學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
11866.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
11894.998 |
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留任獎補助金,顯與以前年度落差接近20%（該項獎補助計畫實質效益執行方式（或有改善空間考量交易縣復原廣大偏鄉地區（醫院因生活機能便利性不佳（影響醫師招募及留任意願（國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會與（積極爭取納入本計畫（補助範圍及補助名額（以利益斯羅治及留任（並維護民眾之就醫權益提案委員陳冠廷等人宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
11899 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
11901.281 |
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主決議103其說明第103案主決議提案委員為林楚瑩委員專事辦理文字修正通過104案主決議提案委員為林楚瑩委員專事辦理105案主決議提案委員羅美琳委員專事辦理 |
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11927.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
11930.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
106.第106案主決議提案委員為羅美林委員,遵事辦理107. |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
11930.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
11936.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
第107案主決議提案委員為王定宇召委,遵事辦理108. |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
11936.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
11940.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
第108案主決議提案委員為王定宇召委,遵事辦理 |
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11947.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
11948.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
暫通過109暫通過110暫通過111暫通過112暫通過112 |
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11977.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
11984.224 |
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113.113主決議提案委員為沈伯陽委員遵事辦理114.114主決議提案委員為沈伯陽委員遵事辦理115.115主決議提案委員為陳永康委員遵事辦理 |
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11997.612 |
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12008.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
116案主決議提案委員為陳冠廷委員遵事辦理117案主決議提案委員為陳冠廷委員遵事辦理118案主決議提案委員為陳冠廷委員遵事辦理119案主決議提案委員為黃仁委員遵事辦理120 |
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12026.291 |
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12045.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
第120案主決議提案委員為黃人委員遵勢辦理這案通過121121案主決議提案委員為黃人委員肯請卓修文字將執訓中心與辦理借退官兵就業輔導時可積極輔導修正為與職業中心辦理借退官兵就業輔導時可積極宣導報告完畢 |
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12055.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
12057.809 |
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文字修正通過122第122主決議提案委員為黃人委員遵事辦理。章案通過123第123案主決議提案委員為黃人委員遵事辦理。章案通過124124案主決議提案委員為黃人委員遵事辦理。 |
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12081.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
12085.201 |
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125.第125組決議案遵事辦理126.第126案組決議遵事辦理127.第127案組決議遵事辦理128.第128案組決議遵事辦理 |
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12117.08 |
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第129 案 主決議 遵事辦理 照案通過130 案 主決議 遵事辦理 照案通過131 案 主決議 遵事辦理 照案通過132 案 主決議 遵事辦理 |
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| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
12161.366 |
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好,114年度中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分．以審查完略重請財政委員會會診之後提報院會請問院會審議前是否需交由黨團協商?沒有好,那就不用院會審議時請推派一位委員做補充說明,請推派 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
12168.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
12174.333 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
本次預算審查如有預算科目物質或金額調整授權議事人員處理12月4日及5日兩日為一次會現在散會謝謝大家 |
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12189.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
12190.921 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
委員會主席委員會主席 |
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12219.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
12219.593 |
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委員會主席 |