| IVOD_ID |
163228 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163228 |
| 日期 |
2025-07-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-07-21T12:38:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-07-21T12:48:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03307e70a03ca0b96db96dfcedfb0cdcbc8bc26138795b0e2d4f4f63d7cb167b587fe82801ebd7d65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:38:19 - 12:48:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-07-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、內政部首長及交通部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及0708豪雨災損及回復情形」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席有請農業部部長還有經濟部陳部長郭部長好那個部長陳部長這個今天都在談這個114年度的這個特別 |
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公務預算撥補到這個農業特別基金這個預算書寫得很清楚是因為超市貸對不對原因呢是因為超市貸希望這個然後刪減了部分的經費 |
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預算法第22條規定立法院審議刪除或刪減這預算項目及金額不得動之一倍金但法定經費後經立法院同意者不再此限災害防救法規定得很明確可不可以說它是法定經費 |
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部長我跟委員報告天然災害救助基金並不是一個法定預算所有的基金都不是法定預算那你剛才講的另外一個那個是災防基金又不一樣部長為了農民我們要想盡辦法去解釋我當三十年公務員所以要想盡辦法去解釋為了農民為了農民我再講一次為了農民我告訴你一個案例 |
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今年114年度中央選舉委員會的預算選務經費也被刪減現在搞大罷免是用哪裡的經費行政院的第二億備金所以可以用行政院的第二億備金所以這個部分接下來 |
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我只是給你方法啦我們給你方法要想盡辦法為農民爭取協議何況現在都還沒有補足我們所有的委員都資深的委員都非常清楚所以過往都不會去刪減我們公務撥補基金的因為他知道一旦刪減以後我們再動用二倍金的時候是非常困難的但是法律規定的很清楚好我們看這個 |
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農業特別收入基金他也農業發展基金 漁業發展基金農產品受進口 農害救助基金林務的基金然後接下來就是我們今天談的農業天然災害的救助基金還有農村再生基金所以在這個公益上撥補到這個農業特別收入基金 |
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它是好幾個項目所以這個提案寫得很清楚是為了超失彈 |
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超適當的不是在做農業天然災害的救助你誤會了我沒有誤會我們有責怪你他刪減的理由是一件事情但是他一旦刪減了以後就會回到遇重22條去處理我沒有要責怪你我們先檢討爭取的方向預算被刪了雖然預算刪了之後還是比7年多那沒有關係 |
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萬一不足的時候,我們現在爭取解決的途徑我們現在在討論,我沒有怪你喔我從來到現在為止都沒有跟你理解我所以你不要跟我強辯所以我想說明清楚而已我清楚啊,我剛剛聽了你你的說話我們要爭取,所以我們可以解釋說可以解釋說因為 |
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那個理由不是針對天然災害 農業天然災害所以可以 我們要往這個方向去努力這個沒辦法處理 我跟委員報告你給我30秒就好我還負責協調行政院主計總署這個所謂的我們三預算的理由是一件事情決議了以後的結果是另外一件事情接下來 |
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特別收入基金可以超支並結算超支並結算也要有經費來源才能夠超支並結算這個112年11月行政院主計總署的報告為了幫你解決這個問題為了幫農民解決問題我想盡辦法找資料喔我都沒有怪你喔我們要往 |
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好的方向去争取农民的权益所以我们把这些资料提供给你也就是要帮助农民而且如果从109到111年度特别收入基金就针对 |
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農業災害的情況也有超支並結算也有超支並結算我們就往這個方向去努力好不好不過超支並結算也要有經費的來源現在重點就是說我超支並結算過往是用二倍金現在二倍金不能動了我還要再另外找錢不過我要跟委員講就算被動了以後我也想辦法借錢委員來處理 |
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你不了解超支並決算沒有關係我非常了解所以我要跟委員超支並決算一定要有經費來源才能做超支並決算請回座你的基金空了嗎完全沒有錢了嗎我的基金所有的基金都有它的科目基金不是一個水庫都可以隨便亂用的請回座 |
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不是每個人都會了解這個老公務員也不見得都會了解老公務員真的也都不見得都會了解這個部長這個這個報導當初是為了海上的太陽光電所做的非常大的報導如果大海是一隻狂暴的野獸這主持人說的 |
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海上光電廠在這個狂暴的野獸的背上蓋一座太陽城這個我們的董事長打造陳不末的保臉打造陳不末的保臉然後我們經濟部以石油基金的預算 |
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一百一十三年度是八千六百多萬一百一十四年度兩千多萬總共一億多的錢請教一下能源署因為這畢竟都是之前核定的跟部長無關除了石油基金補助之外還有其他的科目嗎有沒有其他科目 |
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如果還要查的話再順便給我好了好時間的關係然後石油基金收支保管金用辦法規定的也很清楚了這個我們就下次再談然後這個這個是颱風前的的一個照片然後因為丹娜是颱風 |
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部長當那是颱風發生之後然後太陽能光電被吹的甚至吹到澎湖都有我一看啊這個當中度颱風啊當那是颱風是中度颱風啊 |
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台灣尤其是從屏東上來的颱風哪一個不是從屏東啊從屏東上來之後往台東往花蓮或者是往台灣海峽或者是從屏東然後就往廣東都是一定會經過屏東然後台灣的中度颱風何其多何況台灣的強度颱風 |
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何其何其的多所以這個部分我看了也很痛心了因為都是人民的納稅錢然後造成這樣的一個災害真的很痛心然後又不用還貧這只是其中之一如果我們要看其他的 |
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其他的都很多你也都看過了我也不講時間的關係我的意見就是說做決策者尤其是公務員尤其是公務員這部長不是你核定的所以在進行這種計畫核定的時候公務員要去思考 |
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台湾的气候台风会不可能不知道所以这个部分是一个需要去深思的了好不好我们回去好好检讨这个部分不要再犯这样的一个重要的一个错误好谢谢好谢谢好谢谢 |