| IVOD_ID |
163225 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163225 |
| 日期 |
2025-07-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-07-21T12:02:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-07-21T12:15:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03307e70a03ca0b946c0617f58e8422ebc8bc26138795b0e2d4f4f63d7cb167b3b03e28eaf265d4f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:02:47 - 12:15:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-07-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、內政部首長及交通部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及0708豪雨災損及回復情形」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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市長,你也有遭遇災苦在這邊,我想你應該感受到這次災情那麼慘,其中這個斷電是一個非常重要的因素因為你如果停電,在這邊的災苦很多地方是要停水 |
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因為他們的水啊 水壓如果不夠都要靠那個抽水摩托所以你停電停水然後我們的電話條款都倒了所以啊 網路訊號 手機訊號 現在都走我們的電話所所以這回倒了這次就是停電停水 又停掉了電信訊號所以造成啊 可能是有史以來最慘重的災情之一啦現在大家都在說 那如何強化 |
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我們的電網的韌性 我想這不是供電的問題 是電網的問題如果強化我們電網的韌性 譬如說電纜地下化電纜地下化確實是一個方法 但是我想不是所有的答案 |
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這部分我跟董事長討論一下我以前在我選區我們台電也在我的社群就是平安公路台17層這就是台南市的南區 溪丘到返地當中這以前風太大就跳電了因為它的電話條都站在台時機的旁邊颱風一來風很大 電線都要戳斷了電話條沒倒就要戳斷電線 |
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所以後來這個地方就跟北澳發就解決這個問題啦那這是2016年我跟我們台電爭取的那時候才六千多萬不過現在恐怕以目前的供料這個會很貴了啦啊這道理在這裡我想董事長跟我們台電的總經理喔你們大概幾乎幾乎都進駐在災區嘛你應該感同身受啦那醫藥要怎麼來強化我們的我們的電網啊我想 |
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電纜如果地下化 沿水的地區就不行了是不是這樣 我不定有時間給你答詢 我的意見請你帶回去那邊那個地方 目前可以優先電纜地下化 台北現在有沒有計畫 |
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跟委員報告幾個事情第一個事情就是我們主幹線一定要先強化因為大家都用單一的解方就是說認為地下化就可以解決問題但地下化如果我們這些設備被水泡了那個解決問題要更久 |
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因為淹水地方 電能地下化更麻煩2018年那個西部海岸淹水那個光是抽水就抽了7、8天那個7、8天以後才來復電那個事情會更麻煩所以我跟委員報告幾個事您剛才講可以地下化的地方可能都是要陸基比較穩定好的道路我們來優先辦理那我們就很確定的來討論我剛剛台10級台19 |
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省道啦 省得一波排水 你就做得比較好啦這個保安是不是可以優先來做啦 我覺得台電你應該先規範出可以電腦遞交的地方 你就先做跟委員報告 這一點我們會提啦 因為部長都指示我們要趕快做這件事因為這件事大家都關注 這個需要跨部會一起來處理啦 |
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因為交通部也在我其實是因為這個牽涉到省道我們過去有一期的合作經驗我們有沒有辦法怎麼做好這件事因為連電信的我覺得這個是可能可以合作的事 |
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不淹水的地方然後又有高壓主線那個主幹管通過的地方要行走啦 要行走地下化啦那這當中當然牽扯到跨部會尤其你省道齁因為你如果對人地下化第一個你要交通維護啦 |
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要有交尾的問題嘛對你啊 路面你要再 喔 要再停泊嘛有路權 有施工的問題嘛這些東西你們兩個部位應該要好好的互相協助的啦這樣好不好那另外啦 來 我再請教一下台電啦如果不能地下化的地方啦那應該要強化啦 提高啦 抗風 |
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的這個急速啦對謝謝委員啦我覺得這件事情是我們因為地下化要花時間我們在這個因為颱風現在7月就來我們你要先跟委員報告就是說我們現在會再重要的 |
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那個主要的那個電感上面因為比方說上面要裝開關就是切換的開關或者是有變壓器的我們會先把它快速的先換成抗風強度比較高的那在一排裡面如果有幾支這種抗風強度更高的鐵塔電感 |
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它就可以讓整排導斷的範圍縮小可能一排原來可能20支我們中間如果差了4、5支它就比較不會導斷這麼多這個是我們這幾天跟同仁我們現在緊急在做我們已經準備要緊急採購更強化的電感來做這個 |
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類似就是中央隔斷災害擴大的一些工作好 再來喔因為這次的電話條都要2400多元喔那有些倒掉的喔 我也請電電經理去稍早啦你像現在還有一些喔 還沒有移走的喔我知道你現在也缺機具啦 缺人力啦那你要自己去想辦法克服啦要趕快把這個倒下來的電話條趕快去稍早這都看得乾淨啦是 那個 |
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大部分都移了 現在在部落裡面還沒移完村落裡面都還沒移你就是先刷大樓啦但是裡面還有很多 我拜託請台電趕快把這些倒塌的電線趕快移走好 謝謝好 謝謝曾董事長另外我來好 部長您先休息我來請農業部陳部長 |
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來 董事長這次台南市的風災農業損失是差不多全國最多 差不多全部的四成五百那其中我現在發現 你的農漁業的補助標準沒有一樣你現在一步兩制 你現在農業補你都免限刊 現在也可以開始去公所受理申報 訂訂你現在漁業損失不是這樣 台南也很危險 |
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那我現在接到的反應啦 你漁業署免限的條件你覺得沒辦法 怎麼可能呢 幾個人做得到你現在免限的條件 要有水產履歷 產銷履歷還是有天然災害補助金錢救助你今年還沒有啊 有很多人死了對不對 今年有死了也很少啦第三 要有漁業的保險 |
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這三個啦 產銷履歷也好啦 漁業保險 不然就是你漁業署要推廣漁業署推廣的績效你自己知道啦 因為很多人有保養很少有 我輸出給你看啦是酒瓣的零啦 是三百餘的蝸 頭髮便宜是五啦吳國瑜的頭髮建築只有一啦我如果請教啦 你在免限竿提這三個條件 |
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這可能有一點誤解喔基本上免現幹的時候就是你只要能夠證明你有養殖的事實但是這三個就是說因為這三個在我們的資料庫有很容易就能夠查證啦你所謂的如果這三個條件你達不到 |
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沒有 不是因為這三個裡面 我們的資料庫都有所以很容易查到沒有的時候你只要去證明你有財神跟養殖的事實這個你拿 包括你如果有去放羊這個資料拿過來我們會去查證我們先來講一個確定現在有個公所他不受理第一個 |
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我也非常同意委員所說的 |
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就是說漁業本身我如果是免限刊的話你只要去證明你有養殖的事實那養殖的事實你可以用APP的照相那公所如果願意認定就認定了或者是你剛才拿你因為我剛剛講的那三件我們的資料口都有你只要說你是成交履歷的我馬上調得到資料那你沒有的話你用照片也可以或者是你其他方式證明你有養殖那就可以了那這個部分我想我會再跟公所來溝通 |
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好 那就按照部長你所說的另外有一個部分我覺得要留意的就是室內養殖的部分現在你做養殖也有收來的那室內養殖並沒有在我們這次的補償範圍內我是不是請營業署 你看這裡都風災造成的嘛那營業署 你第一邊說的這個部分是不是應該要納進來 |
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我覺得這個應該要放進去喔包括一些算是屬於設施啦 養殖的設施那養殖的設施如果農民的話我們一次性的都提高到八成喔這個部分我想我們會來處理好 你應該要把室內養殖也加入好不好是好不要保證喔再給我一分鐘喔那個內政部來董事長 |
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委員好市長嘛市長我們現在鄉鎮區就是災後重建喔是我們對民宅啦我們已經開始有你補貼了嘛對今天想說按照你出店補的大小項1萬、5萬、10萬嘛就是6萬到30萬還是30萬以上但是現在災區喔我不知道你有沒有去過現場你有去過現場嗎 災區現場我們署長有去那裡去過現場補貼也去過了 |
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我告訴你 你要把這個意見帶回去啦現在民眾非常不滿喔 就是因為在我們在庫每天都要去三合院啦三合院都一個門牌 每天都住幾個月啦 整間一定這樣啦你現在 你所謂破一 依照你生涯的保障 你是都依一個門牌 |
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委託委嘛 你要以戶數為單位啦你不能以門牌為單位啦我們會跟移戶...我們是移戶來處理你要以戶數為單位喔?對 我們是移戶來處理你有時候一個...我去縣勘看有一個三合院他住六戶的啦因為有稅電單也能證明嘛有沒有居住四十李幹事或是公訴也都知道嘛這樣有沒有 |
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跟委員報告我們基本上就是三合院就是多戶一門牌嘛所以我們是一門牌一戶但是我們還是會以居住適時然後以破損的面積來做計算那做計算的方式我們就是按照破損的面積的狀況六坪到三十坪是五萬標準都一樣啦不然你要以戶數去算啦 |
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是,我們會去處理,我們會去處理。你不可以一門白為單位啦,因為他就是一門白的。我們會去處理事實,我們會去處理事實。這部份你要趕快通知,因為現在是公所不受理多戶啦,他還是一門白為單位啦,所以這部份你們中央地方趕快談好。好,我們來了解,我們來了解。今天就叫我們今天這樣收工。 |
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現在請郭國文委員做詢答 |