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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部單位預算。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部中央氣象署單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─國道公路建設管理基金分預算。
【僅進行詢答；委員預算提案於12月12日中午12時前截止收件】） |
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初期委員已逐法定人數現在開會請議事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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議席官員11月18日交通部部長陳世凱等11月20日交通部部長陳世凱等主席盧昭吉委員明哲11月18日報告四項宣讀上次會議事務決定議事務確定。邀請交通部部長陳世凱等進行專題報告並備諮詢。決定報告及詢討完畢。討論四項一、審查道路交通管理處罰條例修正草案等9案。二、審查發展觀光條例修正草案等7案。 |
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本日會議由委員林德甫等26人提出質詢。軍警部長陳士凱及相關人員分別予以答覆。決議一、報告及詢討完畢。二、為鄭振賢等二人所提書面質詢均列入記錄並刊登公報。三、委員質詢中要求提供相關書面資料或未及答覆部分。請相關機關件書與書面答覆。四、第一案令則其繼續審查。二、 |
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第二、審查完均內容如審查結果並按擬據審查報告提報院會討論。院會討論前需交由黨團協商。院會討論時由魯昭及委名者補充說明。六、本日通過之條4引述條文部分文字及法字用語授權主席及議事人員調整。審查結果一、第二條、第三六條及第六十條均不予修正。 |
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維持現行條文。二、第4條趙委員徐宇珍的二審提案通過。三、第53條保留聖殿位處理室。第54條及第57條軍教委員、網美會等16人提案通過。五、第55條修正通過。六、 |
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第55條之一修正通過。七、徵定第55條之三不予徵定。八、第七十條之二趙文、陳雪生的二九人提案通過。通過臨時提案以下。11月20日,邀請交通部部長陳士凱等進行專題報告並被諮詢。決定報告及詢討完畢。討論思項一、審查114年度交通部民用航空局單位預算。二、審查114年度交通作業基金民航事業作業基金分預算。 |
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三、審查114年度桃園國際機場股份有限公司營業預算。而會議由交通部部長陳世凱等19人提出質詢。軍警部長陳世凱及相關人員分別予以答覆。決議一、報告及尋討完畢二委員、網美會等二人所提書面質詢均列入記錄並刊登公報。三、委員質詢中要求提供相關書面資料或未及答覆部委員請交通部監修予書面答覆。四、第一案至第三案均另。 |
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則其進行處理為預算提案於12月5日星期四中午12時截至收件。散會宣布完畢。請問各位委員對議事錄有沒有意見?沒有意見,議事錄確定。好,那現在介紹在場委員。我們首先介紹魯明哲、趙偉。好,我們林佩祥委員。黃建豪委員。 |
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會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱：立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會議名稱 |
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我們交通部部長陳世凱部長謝謝還有交通部陸正及道安司黃韻貴司長謝謝我們交通部公共運輸及監理司林福山司長謝謝我們交通部行政司韓正華司長 |
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獎金獎金獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎獎 |
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秘書處﹑黃定環處長鄭豐處﹑劉廣基處長統計處﹑陳慧欣處長中央氣象署﹑陳佳平署長中央氣象署﹑呂國成副署長主計事﹑劉瑜珍主任公路局﹑陳文瑞局長 |
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主計事張麗婷主任高速公路局趙新華局長主計事蕭淑欣主任運輸研究所林記國所長 |
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中海郵政股份有限公司王國才董事長、國燕臺灣鐵路股份有限公司杜威董事長、臺灣港務股份有限公司李賢義董事長、桃園國際機場股份有限公司范孝倫總經理、 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
2057.134 |
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2082.39 |
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還有行政院主計總署公務預算處黃曉娟專門委員謝謝還有基金預算處李正道科長謝謝以上介紹本日進行114年度交通部中央氣象署公路局及所屬國道公路建設管理基金等四項預算案的審查那我們現在首先請交通部陳部長進行報告 |
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2095.179 |
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2111.074 |
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主席、各位委員、各位女士先生今天應邀列席貴委員會就交通部中央氣象署、公路局及所屬以及高速公路局114年度施政計畫以及預算編列情形提出報告 |
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2112.674 |
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2120.159 |
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交通部單位預算稅入部分編列36536億餘元稅出部分編列528億餘元中央氣象署單位預算稅入編列0.29億餘元稅出部分編列26億餘元公路局及所屬單位預算稅入部分編列104億餘元稅出部分編列683億餘元 |
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2141.111 |
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2149.356 |
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國道公路建設管理基金總收入編列359億餘元總支出編列190億餘元預計剩餘169億餘元各單位預算以及國道建設管理基金分預算編列編制主要內容分別請本部會計處張處長、中央氣象署陳署長 |
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2167.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
2182.339 |
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公路局陳局長以及高工局趙局長向各位委員提出報告與說明,敬請各位委員會與支持。謝謝。好,謝謝部長。那我們接下來請交通部會計處張處長進行報告。那我們希望時間大概五分鐘,謝謝。 |
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2188.459 |
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2209.399 |
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主席、各位委員、女士先生本部114年度的單位預算是依據本部部長前於10月16號向貴委員會進行業務報告所提的六大施政重點為主軸預預編訂那以下僅摘成重點二要說明預算配置及增減變動情形其餘包括以前年度計劃預算執行等詳細情形請參閱書面報告 |
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2212.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2226.749 |
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稅務部分共編列536億元,較上年度淨減41億元,主要係陽明海運、中華郵政、臺灣港公司等營業營業及事業收入減少49億元,以及我們增加了汽車燃料使用費收入8億元,增減護體所致。 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
2228.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
2250.143 |
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稅租部分總共編了528億元,較上年度競爭57億元,主要是為耕蓄、建構及完善六都、都會區的捷運路網,增加了118億元,其中有包含了五項計畫是由前瞻一列的74億元。然後為了確保台鐵營運安全、車輛運行的效率以及提高服務品質,我們也增加了25億元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
2252.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
2267.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
包括車輛的維修以及基礎設施的重置等。然後為了加速交通科技應用創新增加智慧運輸系統發展的建設計畫有1.5億元。增加國庫增波國道基金辦理亞太強韌海空網路計畫1.1億元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
2271.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2295.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
還有繼續推動我們臺灣新車安全平等計畫增加0.9億元配合交通事業移轉民營政策增加退府照護支出約0.9億元增加營造深度減碳及打造低耗場域計畫0.6億元以及依建設計畫進度及特種基金資源的籌印能力我們有減少了投機投資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
2297.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2298.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
2314.221 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2336.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
各項事任重點的相關行政支出我們分別說明如下第一個是落實運輸安全與人本價值部分本部負責執行164億元含確保台鐵行車安全有157億元道路交通安全有5.5億元然後台灣新車評等有1.87億元然後為主管全部編列的總數有338億元的48.64%該總數較上年度相同基礎其實是增加了25億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2343.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2370.239 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
另外第二部分是引領運輸科技及創新部分本部負責執行71億元含這個智慧機場的這個建設以及新興科技發展那本部主管本部主管全部總數編列539億元那我們本部的占他只有13.24%較上年度相同預算數增加161億元第三個是打造便捷及韌性交通網部分本部負責執行152億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2372.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2397.417 |
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然後為主管全數的總數的這個1461億元的10.45%叫上年度的預算數總數是增加了331億元第四個是推動淨零碳排邁向與環境永續的部分本部負責執行的數字比較少只有這個低碳耗能的場域0.6億元所以為數非常少不過整個主管編列了215億元叫上年度增加了45.84億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
2399.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2413.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
另外有兩個項目是推動觀光產業永續及發展以及精進郵政物流與氣象服務兩大市政重點部分其實是編列在我們所屬的這個機關購裡面那主管全部總共編列的總數分別是105億元與45億元與相同基礎來講分別增加了5.62以及7.03億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2422.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2438.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
最後是有關我們的行政支出我們本部總共編列了138億元其中有屬於依法應由政府負擔的經費有127億元包含對台鐵服務型路線小站規準有13億元員工救資的退幅有38億元以及我們交通民營事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2439.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2453.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
交通事業民營化前的員工退休輔具照付有76億元,這個較上年度增加3點多億元。然後另外用於督導行政上面,督導各種各單位所推動施政的總共有11億元,不過如果我們配 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2454.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2465.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
這個扣除配合上年度調整待遇我們增加了4000多萬元然後還有我們公務車貸換電動車的這個一次性貸款有500多萬元然後還有因0403地震我們辦公室需要加強安全養護的730萬元以及我們一次性的大陸空調及不斷電系統這個老舊設備的貸換4854萬元等這些扣除之後其實我們本身的行政經費至少上年度節減了1414萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2483.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2490.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
中上本部及所屬邊列的預算均屬業務推動實需且已經合作貴商計劃,優先緩急妥適邊列,懇請各位委員支持。謝謝。好,謝謝張處長。接下來要請中央氣象署陳署長進行報告。時間一樣5分鐘,謝謝。 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
2508.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2528.153 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
主席、各位委員、先生、女士,今天很榮幸能夠應邀列席貴委員會,緊就本屬112年全年度與113年截至10月彼此的預算進行及114年度施政計畫的重點預算編列還有預期的效益向貴委員會提出報告。 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2528.934 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2536.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
112全年度與113年度截至10月底的預算執行情形。 112年度的預算執行情形是99.96。113年度截至10月底的預算執行情形佔分貝數是92.15。以下說明114年度的施政重點。 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
2549.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2568.446 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
中央氣象署的任務主要是在守護人民生命財產的安全提高以及提高這個氣象資訊的應用效益。業務的範圍包含了氣象、地震、海象還有天文以及太空天氣。整個署的發展策略以觀測現代化、預報精緻化和服務多元化為主要的目標。以下就 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2569.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2586.03 |
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就這三個方向來做說明。第一個部分就是在強化氣象觀測的部分裡面包含了衛星、雷達以及海象觀測的部分。在相關的目標上今年主要是在銜接歐盟新的衛星並且產製相關的新的產品包含了低雲霧還有土壤濕度以及颱風強度的相關產品。 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2593.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2594.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
2619.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2638.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
以及新擴增波流的遙測站,強化我們沿岸高空和地面的相關觀測站,希望能夠透過觀測資料的強化能夠提供更多的觀測資料給我們做參考。第二個大項是有關強化預報的技術發展的部分,在建置我們的預報作業輔助系統。 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2640.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2659.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
第一個比較重要的部分是在新的任務氣象署成立之後新的任務我們需要發展建制有關太空天氣的數位系統相關的模式那在我們傳統的全球天氣模式還有在這個區域的這個模式的部分都需要提高解析度還有這個來提高準確度 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
2661.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2672.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
在實現科技創新、實現安心社會的部分特別提供精緻化的警報發布尤其由現行的22個縣市改由368鄉鎮的警報發布在活化資料質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2678.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2695.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
這裡創造永續價值的部分我們會建立這個氣象儀器的分級標準以及這個相關這個有關輻射認證的機制那在打造熱活家園的部分我們預期在今年的APP的下載量達到590萬人次那並且我們要舉辦這個產業交流還有這個相關互動的這個這個會議那來這個提升我們的研發還有應用的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2705.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2728.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
另外一件重要事情在持續執行我們的這個建構無縫隙的氣象服務價值鏈的這個計畫橋接這個農漁光電領域相關的計畫那在今年特別要要建立我們農業和漁業的國家層級的氣象服務的框架並且促進我們農業的相關的發展那在這個光電的部分我們今年會特別去產生這個相關太陽能發電的預測那在執行這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2732.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2752.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2752.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2763.794 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
那在加強氣象預報服務的效能的部分那持續支援我們政府相關的防災的應用裡面有一個QPE Plus的這個系統去強化這個系統並且促進這個整個氣象產業的發展那還有這個相關跟這個我們的河安會來合作來對這個日本福島的這個穿廢水的放流來進行評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2777.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2778.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
閱讀委員會第114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2794.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2800.085 |
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adequate to the previous year, the policy is about 40 million yuan, mainly related to the disaster prevention survey of the radar. |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2800.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2813.879 |
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The development of weather science research is about 1.4 billion yuan, which includes 8 billion yuan of weather science research, 3 billion yuan of monitoring plan to strengthen the disaster prevention service environment, and 3 billion yuan of disaster prevention warning plan for the radar. |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2814.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2821.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審 |
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2838.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2855.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
以及跟剛剛有稍微報告過的跟河安會的有關國家放射性物質的擴散預警的計畫。接下來是有關核心能力發展的部分一共有7項裡面包含了建造人工智慧波浪的降尺度的系統。 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2855.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2877.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2878.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2898.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
在強地動觀測網的主要部分是在這個持續維運我們現有的強地動觀測網那來強化我們的觀測效能那在這個地震前兆觀測的部分特別是在更新汰換我們的相關觀測網的設備並且我們需要結合學研界發展新一代的地震前兆分析的相關的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2899.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2908.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
第九項是有關南部海嵐的相關部分,這個是持續進行的計畫。在今年要對於南部海嵐的計畫持續發包,希望能夠來完成我們南部海嵐200公里及三個策戰的相關的計畫。 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2917.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2930.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
第十項部分是在智慧海象災防環境維運的相關計畫裡面包含了海域相關的監測要偵測沿海的氣象站也包含了海象測報技術的方面要 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2932.253 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2933.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2952.333 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2955.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
第12項有關衛星資料環境監測服務的計劃,主要是建立歐盟衛星的接收系統,並研發包含土壤濕度、低雲霧、雲島風及颱風強度相關的部分。最後一項是持續確保海氣象監測網的妥善運作,包含完成馬祖東沙、 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2977.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
3003.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
導致這個浮標站的年度更換以及增進這個劇烈天氣預報系統的海上監測相關的能力提供更多的資料給我們參考結語那氣象臺灣常常經常有氣象和地震災害發生那而且我們的氣候邊遷對臺灣的衝擊和影響非常非常明顯那對於我國的災防作業還有民眾日常生活的運用方面氣象資料對這些伴有非常重要的角色那114年度的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
3006.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
3019.953 |
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是提供給氣象署作為氣象、地震、海象還有太空天氣相關的監測、預報、服務還有持續發展所需。那希望在這邊能夠得到委員的支持,謝謝。好,謝謝陳署長的報告。接下來邀請公路局陳局長進行報告。好,那時間請掌握,謝謝。 |
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3031.824 |
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3048.349 |
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主席、各位委員接著就公路局的單位預算跟以前年度的執行情形還有114年的這個計畫的重點跟預算編列情形向委員會提出簡要報告那在112年度的預算執行情形我們的稅入預算100億8,064萬那決算數是116億9573萬5千元執行率是116.02%那稅出的預算是 |
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3056.011 |
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3062.736 |
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430億5559萬1千元決算數429億2877萬2千元那執行率是99.7%那我們今年度113年度的預算截至10月份子的預算執行情形稅入預算實現數是92億5784萬3千元執行率115.18%稅出預算的支用數401億9960萬5千元執行率是97.18% |
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3084.151 |
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3100.831 |
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114年的我們的施政計畫的重點包括有提升公共運輸的品質、落實交通平權、精進監理業務提供優質的服務還有建構道路交通安全提駕駛安全的一個升級、強化交通這個路網的連接、優化公路防災的減災。 |
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3101.872 |
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3107.456 |
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1104年度預算編列情形稅入編列104億7122萬,較上年度法定預算增加9455萬6千元稅出預算編列683億2915萬4千元,較上年度法定預算增加173億879萬9千元增列公路建設及改善計畫及公路監理相關業務 |
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3131.554 |
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3155.612 |
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那我們這個114年度的預期的施政跡象包括有這個落實運輸安全與人本價值那相關的計畫主要就是要來提升國內的行人入權改善實質的人行空間環境持續推動監理業務電子化跟客製化的服務改善汽車運輸業的營運安全那在這個推動淨零排碳的邁向永續的部分有包括我們要公共運輸的運量跟服務品質的提升 |
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3156.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
3184.906 |
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環島路網跟這個完善我們的路外自行車道提升自行車的行車的這個安全那打造便捷跟韌性的交通網包括要健全省道公路路網的運輸功能增進東部地區運輸走廊的公路運輸效力促進地方的產業升級減少城鄉差距以及運用高科技的管理跟技術提高路網的運作效率那114年的預算我們已經配合施政需要橫著各項計畫優先緩急以及以往年度的執行績效妥適 |
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3185.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
3186.687 |
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公路局及所屬單位預算案附屬單位預算 |
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主席、各位委員以下就本局的施政計畫重點及114年度預算編列情形向委員會做簡要的報告。施政重點部分包括提升國道安全的部分,我們跟公警局透過3E政策來辦理事務的防治。包括工程面向重點在視覺化減速標線,還有深測動態低棒,還有應用AI技術以預回堵路段告警。 |
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3253.422 |
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在教育宣導面的部分,我們也加強宣導包括開車部分型等幾項的主題。指法的重點,我們也針對重點違規的部分來加強指法,以期減少事故。在智慧運輸管理面向的部分的話,我們在國道部分有三天之的一個CCTV,我們朝向五十角的一個管理來規劃。我們也持續辦理AI的影像辨識的部分,來提升隧道整體的交通安全管理運作的績效。 |
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3254.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
3278.395 |
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我們也持續在辦理重線性擁塞路段的檢討改善。113年度預計辦理的包括東湖內湖的雙巷、霧峰的南出、無甲系統的南出等23巷。114年度我們也要持續在辦理重線性擁塞以及提升整個路段的通行效率。再來就是說我們配合數位台灣的部分我們也擴增光纜的一個計畫也在執行中。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
3284.021 |
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厲三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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3297.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
3315.915 |
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另外在整個一個那個國道的一個建設推動的辦理的部分,那我們國道興建的部分總共114年度有7項要辦理,包括國一甲、陽梅托、無堵汽子托、國區興建等計畫。那交流道真改建的部分有14項,包括五股、林口、中豐等項目,請參閱。 |
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3318.257 |
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3345.708 |
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國道生命週期管理部分。國道1062公里、閘道818公里、橋梁2430座、隧道64座、邊坡2570處。我們都是以設施全生命週期管理來做一個整體的養護。同時間我們加強國道沿線的景觀特色提升道路惡思美學的品質提升國道的整體景觀。 |
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3348.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3355.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
在113、112年度跟113年度的一個執行狀況的話112年度決算數是382億餘元那113年度我們有352億餘元那截至10月底為止執行率是104.5那業務總支出的部分 |
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3374.14 |
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3384.252 |
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113年度有178億餘元,截至10月執行率有103.7那本期剩餘的部分那113年度預算有174億餘元,執行率105%那固定資產擴充的部分那113年度的 |
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3393.09 |
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3395.913 |
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預算數166億餘元,到10月底截止98.28%,114年度編列情形114年度業務總收入編列359億3159萬8千元,業務總支出的部分編列190億400萬8千元。 |
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3411.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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3469.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
現在進行尋答先宣告以下事項尋答時間出席委員6加2分鐘列席委員4加1分鐘委員發言登記於10點30分截止本會委員除外各委員如有提案請於10點前提出以便醫事人員會診暫定10點30分休息10分鐘中午原則上不休息現在請登記第一位委員林佩祥委員發言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
陳婉嫻議員 |
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部長,中華隊好不容易拿冠軍了,這件事全國都很開心,只是比較尷尬的就是說他們回來的時候,這個彩毛免稅商店喜事亂蹭,主兵不分,甚至我記得最早的話好像第一時間這個PTT上面就直接講說叫做黃金之亂。 |
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基本上我覺得這件事情這個鬧劇這個其實是蠻不恰當的行為我必須認真講那我想請問一下部長那還有我們桃園機場未來有什麼後續的處理? |
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3543.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3546.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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3564.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3588.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
那管制區裡面他未經同意就來做拍照而且他未經同意就拉了布條來做宣傳這是非常不妥的所以淘氣公司他們也應該有對彩蒙做出檢討也要求他們未來不可以再犯當然委員剛剛所提醒的是最重要的就是未來不能再發生類似的事情這是第一件要處理的事情我們昨天看到的是管制區裡面混亂 |
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| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3616.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
但管制區外面看起來的狀況是還可以因為當時也是配合這個體育署體育署他們的這個路線的規劃淘氣公司是完全配合他們的規劃所以在整個場外的部分是沒有問題所以第一我們在場內管制區的部分不應該發生這樣的事情未來怎麼防範這個部分要做檢討第二就是針對彩蒙公司有沒有要做裁罰我也要求淘氣公司立刻做檢討如果有需要裁罰我們就來裁罰 |
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要讓這些商業的公司知道說不該做的事而且未經淘機公司允許的狀況底下做這些事是必須受到懲罰的。 |
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3628.148 |
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3647.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
好部長因為這件事情會讓全國的人民覺得很不舒服因為這很明顯公器私用公司不分所以這件事情我希望說桃園機場這邊能夠做出個明快的處理好再來其實我再來要講的是有關這個2030我們全台灣的巴士都要電動化 |
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3675.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
那其實這件事情我也要特別對於我們交通部給予高度的肯定因為上禮拜部長來有已經核定說基隆所有的巴士未來所有電動巴士交通部都會補助一半那不過我這邊也提到一些陳情就是說我們目前電動巴士能夠選的這個廠商好像數量很少好像只有兩家還是一家目前是四家未來應該會有五家 |
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3676.209 |
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他們就很擔心說為了要符合2030能夠準時讓我們全台灣的巴士都電動化可能來不及因為我們現在的進度已經是落後的甚至有人提議說可不可以再開放就多一兩家讓這個產量能夠往上提所以我們申請時間能夠到位因此我們2030的時候我們可以達到這個全台灣電動巴士能夠全部都達標的目標呢? |
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3703.125 |
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3724.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
報告委員這個對交通部來講是一個很重要的政策目標在2030年要達到所有的電動巴士的這個普及化那這個部分其實目前是有四家那或許在產量上面讓很多的縣市或者很多的公司認為只有兩家的產出的速度比較跟得上那未來會有五家所以這個部分我們也會跟經濟部來合作 |
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3725.773 |
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3743.817 |
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只是說針對這個製造商的部分我們希望他的產量要足夠要充足要讓各縣市在替換電動巴士的過程當中不要說我有預算我想做但我買不到這件事不可以讓它發生因為只剩下5年整所以這時間其實蠻趕的我們現在普及率好像百分之20、20、30這個請 |
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3767.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
目前這個今年核電兩線熱量那普及率已經達到這個百分之25以上那另外一個部分我趁這個機會跟委員報告一下就是說目前這個做完成十項國產化還有這個走電話管道大概就是有這個四家那目前還有另外一家在申請這個完成國產化的一個審查 |
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3769.592 |
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另外一個部分就是說這四家也目前都在這個擴廠那只要是公路局核定的然後業者下單採購的那個工廠生產的這個進度都在交通部在做一個控管 |
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3804.116 |
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因為我現在知道說有關電動巴士其實不是只有地方政府還有一些客運業者、客運公司那他們如果合定的時候假設是合法合法、合理而且是符合規格的時候也要請說我們交通部尤其是公路局這邊能夠盡快說不要就是說 |
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3824.612 |
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就是說讓他們能夠順利的趕快能夠申請然後趕快過關因為他們也很希望說能夠把這些巴士能夠趕快實施使用這樣對全民不管是對於我們的淨林排灘的目標也好還是對我們全民的方便也好那另外一方面也就是因為我是基隆的委員那我有去拜訪過不少業者 |
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3845.342 |
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那有些業者跟我們講他們很願意全力配合這個電動巴士的專案甚至有一個業者直接跟我提到說他們現在已經有提到說要提出有33台的電動巴士針對我們基隆最忙的2088路線也是我們基隆的黃金路線直接從基隆的八斗子直接到台北直接到台北火車站 |
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那他們這條路線他們未來會投入33台的電動巴士那如果有未來有機會的話那像說我們公路局是不是能夠讓這個電動巴士提早上路讓他們能夠順利這是我相信交通部預算的地方我以這個部分我們全力來協助好那另外一點就是有關路權 |
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3877.902 |
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因為現在我剛剛提過2088是我們基隆市的黃金路線可是每天早上從八斗子發車經過基隆市到文化中心然後再從一高最塞的從大葉隧道開始一路到市府轉運站 |
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3881.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
3899.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
可是尷尬的點就是在於說其實明明在從八斗子到這個62號架也就是到三分之一路程的時候很多的班次其實已經載滿人了但是依照目前的路權他們必須某個程度上來講是個冗長的過程他們必須重新從八斗子 |
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3900.289 |
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3924.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
經過62號A62號甲然後再到這個基隆女中然後再到基隆市文化中心然後最後再上一高變成說在大葉隧道開始一路塞車跟這個常態性塞車跟我們民眾要搭乘去臺北市府轉運站這其實造成很多的不便所以在這邊也請教說我們部長跟公路總局甚至高工局請教說有沒有可能說假設這邊的車子62這個2088 |
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只要如果說在這個62號甲之前已經滿車了是不是可以不用多跑一段而是直接從62號甲直接接62號直接上一高這樣一方面可以縮短我們這些乘客等待的時間另外一方面也可以實質上的可以消化一些交通用色部長跟局長你們認為呢?報告委員您說的這個案子我覺得這件事是很值得討論因為 |
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| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
對於跑國道客運的這種路線來說他們是滿座基本上就不能再載人但如果還要再繞原本的路線基本上他也沒有辦法再讓客人上車但是很浪費時間所以委員提的這個建議我們在下一週應該會現場去辦會刊去了解之後我們來協助業者我們先做三個月的試辦先做三個月的試辦那如果試辦的狀況不錯那我們之後再延續 |
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3983.948 |
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3999.771 |
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那就是麻煩部裡面幫忙幫我基隆人再多一點誠意我這次還是要再次再給我們交通部高度的肯定也代表基隆市市民跟你們說聲謝謝基隆很需要交通的幫忙那我看到陳部長所帶領的團隊很努力幫基隆解決一些問題謝謝謝謝委員謝謝好謝謝林佩祥委員接下來邀請林俊憲委員發言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
4019.375 |
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謝謝主席。本期邀請我們交通部陳部長。請陳部長。部長,部長好。部長,那個,那機場工資在不在?台灣英雄回國啊,造成機場大亂,這事情您應該知道吧?是,當然。那您要怎麼處理啊?您知道我們機場是有嚴格管制的喔? |
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4040.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
4065.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
報告委員這個是管制區裡面齁他們未經同意這樣拍照就不對第二未經同意在國家的運動員回國的時候拉布條做宣傳這更不對齁我有講過就是說國家的運動員不是讓特定廠商拿來做廣告的工具或者是道具用的齁所以這個部分第一未來如果有類似國家的息事你要怎麼追究責任 |
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4066.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
4092.228 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
這個部分跟委員報告。講一講就算了。第一,陶基必須要檢討這次所發生的事件我們內部管理的問題。第二,針對採盲我們必須要做採法。要讓這間公司知道說未來類似的狀況底下不可以做這樣子的動作。陶基管理實在還沒有水準。這在管制區內還有副總統的維安問題。那副總統的維安是誰支援的?是機場保全還是航警局? |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
4093.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
4094.111 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
4107.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
4130.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
bicyC.剛剛部長講到是管制區管制區誰可以進去那一般人進去你必須要有一個通行的工作證所以你看這些免稅店的這些員工每個他當然都有工作證才可以在裡面但是有工作證不是可以亂來我們裡面規定很清楚通行工作證有一個管理規定如果你從事跟職務不符的運動的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
4132.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
4140.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
從事跟你職務不符合的活動造成不良後果你會給他停止使用一個月到三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
4141.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
4166.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
那你既然有規定有辦法你就去應該去追究責任吧?報告委員這一定要追究責任而且必須要有裁罰因為採盟公司在活動辦理之前也就是我們國家的英雄要回國之前其實大家都有溝通好應該要在他們自己的店門口那裡夾到歡迎就好但是他們不照原本的規定跟規劃衝出來這個動作必然要裁罰那也會裁罰好 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
4168.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
4196.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
另外部長啊,沒事要跟你呃,跟你陳情一件事情,也希望交通部能夠支持。就是這個我們台南的公車的營運的問題啊。在所有的公車的補助裡面啊,六都就台南市最少了。那台南市最少,在六都裡面台南市的面積是第二大了。那台南市的地形就是南北很狹長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
4197.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4216.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
4217.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
4220.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
4236.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
4238.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
4262.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
4267.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
4276.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
4299.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
公共運輸的推廣對中央來說是個很重要的政策那當然臺南我覺得進度稍稍有落後那需要中央幫忙中央一定全力幫忙不過您剛剛所提到的這個細節我是不是請局長看怎麼協助他因為移撥路線他以前是就是說我們公路局的公路客運後來移撥到地方巷子下市的那你要補助給我們啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
4301.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
4324.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
4324.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
4325.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
議員主席議員主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
4350.413 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
4354.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
4373.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4377.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
4401.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
4404.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
4419.228 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
4446.629 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
已經算算算是等30分也實在太久了啦但至少10分到30分這還有改善空間嘛你西北地區你等你等那個一小時一班的這不合理啦另外啦到高鐵K8的所在啦你要在台南K8的所在你要坐那個專用公車到高格地站喔一小時一班啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
4449.028 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4449.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
4476.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
4477.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
4495.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
4524.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
結果極少數有賺錢的路線以外,很多基本上都是屬於補助啦。你不靠補助根本沒有辦法經營啦。它其實也算是我們社會服務或社會福利的一部分啦。你既然要做,你就做到讓它產生一定的方便性啦。像你這樣的要補助,要補助好像不補助。你做這個服務當然沒人去啊。那你形同浪費。 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
4525.885 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
4539.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
所以我們就以做簡單的等車時間來算至少都不能超過20分鐘以這樣原則來進行計算補助我們把它拉到20分鐘比較合理好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
4541.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
4541.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
林國誠委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
4572.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4574.298 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
請陳部長。請陳部長。會計處的張處長。請張處長。還有那個道安司,來,黃司長,你也上來。請黃司長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
4597.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
4608.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
我想部長剛剛我們兩位同事啊已經問過的問題我就不問了其實那是國家嚴守政府嚴守的治安的問題這凸顯一個機場管理不當 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
4613.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
4631.923 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
該做的該處理的該改進的就要去改進所以我就不再贅述了他們兩個都已經講得非常清楚這凸顯我們機場管理橫向聯繫的不足所以該開罰的該怎麼改進的一定要去改進我們一定會改進會開罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
4633.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
4660.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
我就跟你談這些預算的問題啦那當然因為我會請張處長上來就是因為部長也不可能管得這麼細但是很不幸的立法委員看你們的預算看得非常細那但是我今天就摘要幾個問題想請教第一個我們在113年我們交通道安交通安全業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
4662.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
4690.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
邊內預算6億5000多萬。但是114年邊內的預算只有5億1000萬左右。請問這是什麼原因?報告委員我所知道的應該是有一部分的預算移到公路局。我們移到公路局也就是說公路局跟我們現在所看到的這個預算加起來應該是跟去年是差不多的。 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
4690.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
4707.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
4708.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
4721.218 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
bedingt老實講你這個部分不是由公路局來編是把這個預算挪到宣傳會的部分來 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
4723.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
4750.751 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
那沒有關係沒有關係我跟你講立法委員針對你們的預算提出質疑的時候我希望你們說明很清楚一條一條把它說明很清楚因為今天主要是談未來的預算如何去改變如何去做說明我想這召開這個會議主要的目的是這樣但是給你們方向那你們該解釋的就要來解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
4751.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
4774.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
我可以我看完以後看到我們宣傳會是暴增的那這個宣傳會暴增幾例我們交通部一般的預算共編列114年共編列的一億四千多萬其他宣傳會就佔了一億五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
4776.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
4782.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
超過七成都在宣傳會113年宣傳會只有7780萬他的宣傳會只有5000萬左右那這個比例來講為什麼會這樣來部長為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
4792.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
4813.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
報告委員我們今年所增加的預算是在道路安全的宣導因為我們有看到尤其是年長者比較高齡者的這個道路安全上面我們看到事故的比例是相對高而且死亡的比例是相對高所以我們希望在這個交通安全上面的宣導跟相遇的部分我們希望做多一些的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
4815.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
4828.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
當一個立法委員只要名指名高用在正確的當然我們要去支持你所以我曾經都開始都講過本黨任何八位立委只要台灣的建設我們不刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
4830.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
4854.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
只要是老百姓福祉的東西我們不刪但是不當的挪用不當的宣傳我們一定要去追根究柢所以這點我特別要提醒部長那一向我對部長當然在整個業務上跟你的做法上我的基本上我非常支持因為我希望年輕人有年輕人的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
4854.955 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
4881.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
不能用這種逃避式或欺騙式的編列預算我已經點出來你們的宣傳會成長將近一倍到兩倍所以這個部分我想張處長你比我更內行啦我點出來了以後你們如何去解說也不要講太多在這裡講多了以後你們也不會承認但是我點出來的時候希望你們解釋清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
4881.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
4884.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
閱讀者﹚立法院第11屆第2會期交通部總預算案關於交通部中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
4903.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
4915.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
但是在這個部分我要跟你探討的就是陸老師計畫的成效問題陸老師這個計畫的成效問題這裡面凸顯一個問題請問為什麼113年所有預算跟材料的編列預算只有750萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
4928.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
4929.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
4940.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
4963.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
欸!這是材料!這是材料!怎麼會成長這麼高啊!七百倍五十萬!然後今年是編一千八百五十萬!為什麼?來!市長!跟委員報我們除了材料費以外我們這些費用也會補助各個縣市各監理單位當路老師出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
4964.349 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
4971.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
好啦你不要講這些嘛我問你為什麼你就給我講重點為什麼什麼改變那他的成效如何去改變為什麼會成長兩倍嘛2.6倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
4976.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
4977.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
其他都不要講我問你為什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
4995.711 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
5002.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
5014.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
5040.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
當然如果是說從數據上來看我們還有努力的空間但是我們還是希望說透過這樣一個宣導好 那個師長我提醒你啦齁我提醒你成效不當是個事實不要一錯再錯效果沒有評估就針對預算這是對立法院是不重視的不重視還有一點為什麼連續7年都是這家廠商為什麼為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
5043.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
5044.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
5061.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
5064.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
5077.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
5100.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
只有他?現在國內就算我們是公開招標的好啦好啦我提醒市長也不要再那個因為我時間也差不多那我希望這個部分我點出來你們好好解釋一下阿不然的話我還是有意見的那我在想我們立委同仁大家都很認真但是我或許會看得比較細一點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
5101.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
5102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
來我請問一下那個潮貫車最近車禍頻頻 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
5115.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
5124.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
你們如何去應對?這個車禍啊從11月份11月4號台61線發生11月12號台2線濱海公路發生那另外11月25號屏東訪山發生種種還有花蓮等等聯繫喔今年已經76次了請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
5143.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
5168.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
這個潮貫車你們現在怎麼管理?跟委員報告,潮貫車本來潮體的部分本來就是檢驗要通過要潮體的運輸要安全不過他應該是屬於就是說駕駛人整個業者的一個管理所以每次發生事故的話其實我們會去整個查他的公司的一個比如說司機的一個調度排班還有就是說他有沒有就是說其他比如說疲勞駕駛所以工時的部分我們也會去查 |
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5170.622 |
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為什麼11月份你看喔今年已經七十幾次了那是危險物品欸不是一般單純車禍欸那是危險物品那是會爆炸的所以部長我把這個問題點出來我也知道我每一次給你的東西 |
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都是比較新的可是這個重大問題耶如果是今天一般的單純的車後那我坦白講車輛這麼多一定難免但是這些是特殊車輛化學用品包括油罐這是會爆炸的所以 |
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我要拜託部長針對這些問題這個問題要解決就是你部長要特別盯緊一點不要把每一樣事情發生以後才說啊我感到遺憾我感到抱歉沒有意義所以部長這個部分那未來你們怎麼做也拜託陳局長給我一點規劃好不好好不好好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝林國成委員 |
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接下來邀請許智傑委員發言本席在這邊先宣告就是在等下在本席質詢完之後處理臨時提案然後休息10分鐘謝謝謝謝主席我們請部長請陳部長 |
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部長您知道今天是高雄飛馬組的最後一班的包機嗎?不會是最後一班,我們應該會讓他飛到元旦。原來,對,原來是11月6號到今天。委員非常關心,所以我們讓他可以到元旦。 |
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我們確定會飛到元旦我們已經有請觀光署協助我只要知道結果結果就是會繼續飛會飛到元旦我們跟馬祖縣政府一起合作我們讓他飛到元旦元旦假期謝謝部長其實我們高雄真的是希望說航線可以一再的再來努力 |
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所以部長之前我在要求的時候當時你可能還沒當部長所以讓部長複習一下我們這其實十條航線從疫情過後我們就要求三二一就是北海道、雜荒、沖繩、新加坡這三條航線那現在陸陸續續都開飛那目前有飛的讓部長知道一下就是說泰國清邁、泰國曼谷、日本雜荒、日本岡山、日本沖繩、韓國釜山、韓國首爾金浦 |
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馬來西亞、沙巴、越南復國島、馬祖南竿 |
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這個馬祖南竿是包機的所以就是說目前我們已經成功有爭取這些這個當然要謝謝交通部跟民航局的協助了那右邊這邊其實也讓部長簡單看一下這一段時間的一個流程尤其是新加坡沖繩在疫情之後就也都恢復了那現在我們又加碼就是岡山跟航板熊本那岡山也已經啟航了就是說我自己親自去做就是 |
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那個虎航從岡山飛高雄算是高雄岡山的首航以及高雄到護國島的首航那這個我都親自去做這個首航那也覺得說我們真的是很多我們高雄在地的需求能夠一一的滿足感謝委員努力爭取 |
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5410.96 |
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當然我們也謝謝交通部跟民航局的協助再來就是說其實這個過程也讓部長知道一下其實我們真的是奔走了很多的航空公司包括華航、長榮、星宇、虎航、華信、韓亞、濟州航空、日本航空、新加坡航空、庫航等等的那這些其實我們一一去 |
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獲獲獲獲獲獲獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
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包括那邊軍中的弟兄的搭機往返的問題等等的這個都必須去溝通所以目前就是油的問題部長解決了嗎?報告委員目前還在協調當中那我們希望中油公司能夠協助不過中油公司是經濟部所轄那我們也盡量跟他們溝通看可不可以協助這個部分有沒有結果了? |
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目前我這邊所知道還沒有結果還沒有結果希望盡快啦我知道就是他們包括這個加油的人員的證照的問題還有那個加油的機場的保險的問題等等的這一些油罐車的保險等等這一些 |
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我知道中友已經初步有意願可以協助那當然這個意願歸意願我想白紙黑字跟最後的定案還是需要交通部出面對航空公司來說一定要確定做到那裡有辦法加油我們才有辦法讓航空公司能夠不用加這麼多油可以再多一點客人過去所以油如果可以解決的話其實現在70人做的只能做50個人因為要載油 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
閱讀委員會主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
5528.903 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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油罐車等等的就是這些保險的問題人員的問題解決之後可能將來我們要做固定航班的機會就比較大。對這是先決條件。對還有再來就是說跟舖長再報告一下就是說我們其實現在我那一天有去拜訪另外一家航空公司他們剛民航局剛給他們執照他們有意願就是馬祖到高雄因為他們這個是19人座20人座左右的 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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5627.329 |
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議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
5628.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
5644.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
我現在也去拜託到說你們可不可以飛剛才我說的那一家他們也願意有意願啦所以這個部分希望說部長可以再跟聯行局再協商一下如果有機會我們高雄等於高雄到台北 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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好那再來就是說我們希望說其實過去10條未來我們還希望再10條那這個還需要再努力啊就是說我們希望說未來再爭取我們的邦交國、柏流、印尼、雅加達、菲律賓、蘇烏、泰國、普吉島然後長城的歐美澳、日本羽田、仙台、雄本、高松以及韓國濟州等等的 |
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5715.913 |
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這些其實我也拜訪了一些航空公司也跟部長報告一下說目前其實我們雜訪這裡紅色的這個還沒完成新加坡跟沖繩已經完成了馬祖蘭干這個完成了但是後續還需要再調整那雜訪在明年的1月就有可能會完成了 |
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5719.134 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
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adequate to this article, it is from Taipei. |
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Of course, we will fight for Taipei to fly more European airlines, European and American airlines. |
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In this way, we Taipei can fly, of course, in the future, we Kaohsiung will have more opportunities. |
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So you can see this block, when the traffic minister responded to me at that time, I proposed this suggestion to him, he told me at that time that this is impossible, do you know? |
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但是我們一再的努力,欸,完成了。所以我覺得我們這是不可能,我們還是要去努力變成,把那個impossible那個imp 踢掉就變成possible。那那個高雄到伯流,其實這是我們幫交國,我們期賣市長很喜歡潛水。所以呢,去伯流那邊潛水其實也是很好的事。所以我們這個全球的航線,我希望說部長能夠再加強。 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審 |
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所以這個我們把桃園機場的航線能夠增幣更多的航班航線將來我們高雄當然機會就更大我們分到前一頁那個雅加達我再特別講一下雅加達現在觀光署已經到雅加達去設辦事處印尼這個兩億多的人口我們臺北有飛我們高雄其實高雄飛雅加達飛印尼的東南亞的其實人口數都相當多 |
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| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
5869.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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5891.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
5892.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
5908.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
5909.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
接下來邀請何新淳委員發言。 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
5942.451 |
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謝謝昭緯、蘇越委員。我們請部長。請陳部長。還有陶姬。請陶姬總經理。部長。是,委員好。我用很沉重的心情來進行今天的質詢。是。你記不記得我在台灣隊要出發之前就提醒過你。對。 |
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5975.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
5976.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
5981.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
那時候陶基的董事長跟總經理也同樣站在你旁邊還跟我說我們已經準備好了,我們有萬全的準備,我們非常有經驗,我們一定會趕快來開會協調,絕對萬無一失。11月20號同樣地點在這裡質詢你。 |
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6028.938 |
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部長也跟我說,有,我們一定會妥善準備,陶吉很有經驗。我出發前提醒,結果反國後者就結果了,黃金之亂。還不是只有黃金之亂而已。沿路的動線是亂七八糟。人潮遠遠超過於你們的預期。我之前就提醒你了,一定會萬人空巷。會很熱情地去接機。 |
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那剛剛部長回答其他委員說來要求陶基檢討出來檢討第二個究責這個管理機制剛剛其他委員也說太爛了第二個黃金之亂我們看到剛剛剛剛即時新聞彩萌又發了一個聲明稿他要捐三千萬出來分五年要援助資助這個偏鄉青少年的棒球發展 |
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| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
6062.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
6078.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
6098.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
報告委員您說不及格齁那應該就是大家對於這件事情是不滿意的啦齁那這件事情呢其實淘機公司我當時也有要求一定要跟體育署還有就是職棒聯盟這邊協調好協商好整個這個回國之後的整個動線的規劃好你這個你上次有提到沒錯好那我問淘機嘛你們開會了沒 |
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| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
6126.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
你們事前有沒有開會?是,包委員我想相關的集體活動除了事前的協調、規劃甚至每一個定點哪一些位置比如說拍照地點在哪裡哪些單位那下一個環節是哪些單位要負責?你們開了幾次會?現刊都有來現刊幾次?現刊應該有兩次現刊兩次跟哪些單位一起合作現刊? |
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| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
6147.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
就是我們場內的有關單位還有包含像體育署以及甚至是因為副總統要來所以也包含特勤的單位那如果有兩次的限刊那就兩次的限刊所以沒有開其他的協調會所以沒有把其他可能有的因應狀況事前沙盤演練 |
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| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
6162.068 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
甚至呢也沒有預期到光是在你們管制區裡面的這些免稅店的人員他都可以在裡面跑來跑過去可以蹭來蹭過去甚至可以馬上衝到副總統的席位這何等的離譜的事啊你還說你們有現勘管制區內你都管制不了了你都管理不了了 |
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| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
6193.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
不是嗎?那我們從媒體的報導裡面就可以看得很清楚因為呢幾乎人人包括來接機的人人一支手機都在直播我們看現場台灣隊的隊長他還要到處的在找他的老婆跟小孩跑到哪裡去了你怎麼處理成這個樣子啊你說兩次現刊來誰主持的 |
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6205.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
6215.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
誰主持的?包委員這個是各單位一起共同來現刊哪些單位派了誰來?成績夠高嗎?有經驗嗎?哪些單位?你剛跟我講體育署是誰來?你們淘機是誰去?那國安人員、特勤人員包括航警局又是誰去?包委員細部的部分可能我們...所以你也不知道? |
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6232.574 |
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需要另外再整理再提供所以你也不知道?所以現堪不是你去嘛對不對?這麼重要的我事前提醒你了部長也在這個會議室裡面你們董事長也在這個會議室裡面告訴大家我們準備好了我們非常有經驗就總經理你連現堪都不是你去啊 |
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6258.772 |
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6268.632 |
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裡面哪些單位參與現刊包括動線包括哪一個是拍照點包括哪一個是歡迎點包括怎樣怎樣怎樣你都不知道 |
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6288.386 |
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包委員我們是有相關的規劃剛剛所提到這些的總經理部長你聽看如果你有相關的規劃你的規劃配套是完是完善的是完整的你今天會出那麼大的皮肉嗎跟那麼離譜的事嗎整個淘機都是人欸我之前就提醒過你了我本來今天真的是覺得很 |
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6301.702 |
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6323.701 |
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陶基是我們的門面陶基這個確實是要檢討啦那整個過程當中他們也是在11月22號有收到體育署的來函希望哪裡做照相區哪裡做等候區那哪裡要做接駁巴士區都有規劃陶基是誰在管真正陶基的管理者叫陶基公司是交通部 |
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你說體育署它也是主責單位體育署是負責把台灣隊帶回來然後呢體育署可能聯絡總統府的副總統要來接機我們教育部體育署要好好的來安排那問題是在地最了解機場最知道機場的動線最知道機場的區域該怎麼配置最知道接機區域到底有多大是誰 |
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6355.846 |
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6374.503 |
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機場公司欸是機場公司欸而且他剛剛回答其他委員說有啦我們有跟免稅店都有事先約束過啦要求他們要怎樣怎樣阿阿現在都沒有照你預定的計畫在做欸 |
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6376.781 |
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6377.221 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
6390.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
6418.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
大家當然要共同承擔責任但是您剛剛所提到那些懲處確實不在交通部那也不是交通部來負責我必須要說的是彩萌這間公司沒有照原本的規劃跟預定的地點自己未經同意出來做拍照的動作並且他們未經同意拉了廣告布條這些都是非常錯誤的動作那這個部分我也要求淘氣公司必須對彩萌公司來做懲罰做懲處甚至是做裁罰 |
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6419.353 |
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6445.728 |
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這個部分一定都會做那淘機公司內部要不要檢討當然要檢討檢討完之後到底誰該負責或者是應該做什麼樣的懲處後續一定要做結論我是再一次提醒部長啦淘機的管理或是淘機的公司治理文化一件又一件一次又一次啦要不要下定決心好好的大刀闊斧的 |
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6447.028 |
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6462.465 |
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改革、革新這個當然是部長怎麼跟陶基好好的來討論啦但是呢今天這一次台灣隊回國我再強調一次喔不是只有黃金之亂 |
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6463.969 |
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6484.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
現在大家都聚焦在一個黃金之亂可是部長你再從頭回想從台灣隊一下機進管制區到管制區之外沿途的動線包括連出關都有問題還有到了 |
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6485.902 |
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6496.733 |
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接機區的時候滿滿都是人那整個的管理整個的動線的一個妥善的配套措施我們真的都沒有看到這個是不應該非常不應該而且我剛剛講的 |
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6502.912 |
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6529.648 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
我事先提醒你們告訴我要開會告訴我要協調結果問了沒有開會沒有協調只有兩次現勘兩次現勘是哪些單位來現勘也還講不清楚哪些人來參與現勘也講不清楚那我當然知道就淘機或者是交通部的立場你不可能去管到國安特勤人員但是你們明知道副總統要來 |
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6530.689 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
6555.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
有國安特勤的一個維安動線你們就應該要好好的協調跟反映你看你讓我們管制區裡面的人原來誰都可以來蹭誰都可以來擠C位誰都你自己看照片就好了沿途都是不管是入出境的其他我們台灣的國人也好或者是外國觀光客也好 |
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6557.11 |
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6577.755 |
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很多你們完全沒有管制完全沒有管理完全沒有動線所謂的配套我記得媒體還有曾經拿過日本隊回日本他們的動線是如何的暢通而且呢是有個人空間的又對比到台灣隊回來台灣的桃園機場台灣隊的球員進來回國的時候 |
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6586.055 |
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6591.501 |
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我本來應該是非常光榮的回國沒錯啦可是那個動線跟混亂啊讓人家覺得是不是在逃難啊對不對本來是一件歡欣鼓舞舉國歡騰的一件事啊怎麼會把台灣對我們世界冠軍的台灣對回國搞成這個樣子 |
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6605.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
6608.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
adequate to the public. |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
6621.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
6649.134 |
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三天內可不可以有一個檢討報告讓國人知道三天內好不好我們希望你是痛定思痛的檢討你是痛定思痛的去把所有該做的配套還有所有該做的應該都要做到位的通通要檢討好不好拜託這個是國人期待也是要對國人交代當然謝謝委員 |
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6650.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
6675.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
6679.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
6679.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
陳淑月召委陳部長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
6698.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
6720.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
部長早安。本席想首先關心一下這個有關交通安全的問題。我們發現就是說目前在中南部的這個快速道路的一個紮道就是有出現一個問題就是因為現在因為車輛的增加車流量的增加那尤其是在上下班的尖峰時刻 |
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6720.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
6747.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
6747.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
6753 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
大概有100多輛應該就100多件所以也造成這些車主就是真的是非常的抱怨連連那金本席連續之後當然就是說以目前的規範來說就是我們的這個道路行駛的一個規範就是路肩上是不可以來行駛的可是就現況來說這個也是車主一個不得不的一個選擇那我們也發現就是說 |
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6776.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
6777.752 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
單位預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
6794.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
6811.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
公路局所管理沒錯可是負責取締的卻是國道警察局那這當然就是可能是因為地方政府他的處理能力的一個問題所以是由國道警察局來處理那本席聯絡就是有關國道警察局的時候因為針對這個罰單是不是 |
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6814.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
6815.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
6832.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
6850.688 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
閱讀後,檢舉人也希望先申訴。我們也發現,其實是之前在本席接到這個陳情之前,也有類似的案件。車主他們也是尋求申訴的程序。 |
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6851.849 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
6855.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
adequate to the Supreme Court of Justice. |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
6870.473 |
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6889.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
就是原告就是這個被舉發者就是跟隨這個前方預下遭到預下遭到的回堵車流緊靠路間行駛是細微保護自己及他人生命財產安全客觀上不得已之必要手段那其違規行駛路間所造成之法律侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
6890.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
6916.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
於保全自己及他人生命財產安全之法亦相較亦顯然較輕。所以因為這樣的理由就撤銷了他的這個罰單那當然就是說因為我們的道路設計的問題導致這些車主違規所以這個是我們是等於是我們陷他們於不義的那種感覺因為就是道路設計是這樣子可是以我們一般人的行使道路回堵的時候你有可能是停 |
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6917.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
6944.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
就是停止在主車道上再去等切入右邊的紮道嘛那不可能嘛因為右邊都是已經是那個在停要下紮道的車流了那你如果停等在這個主車道上雖然是合法的可是是危險性是相當高的而且他要切入右邊的這個車流的時候有可能就是造成是插隊的這個現象所以相較之下真的是險象環生 |
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6945.746 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
6963.976 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
所以在這個之後本協也安排了會刊來檢討那當然我們公路局還有那個國道警察局這邊還有地方政府都就是一致的一個共識就是說那我們做一個就是變通的方式就是把下紮道的漸變車道把它拉長100米然後讓這個車流就是說靠右行駛的時候就是 |
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6970.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
6997.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
不至於是違規的一個狀況可是這樣子的一個決議我在應該是9月的時候會看到現在都還沒有完成那我去追了一下竟然是就是都留標就是沒有廠商要來投標可是我覺得這是一個雖然是一個小工程可是是一個很重要的一個工程所以是不是我們交通部這邊可以想辦法競速來把它完成 |
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6998.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
7022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
報告委員,我們現在沒有錯,已經在做設計當中,這個案子已經在做設計當中,因為委員您9月30號有會刊,那會刊也做了結論,那公路局這邊也會配合,那現在就是說廠商的部分,我們現在正在做設計,那我們希望說在明年的1月份可以完成,就完成當時委員所會刊所要求的那些內容,應該明年1月就可以完成。 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
7023.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
7035.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
那如果說在本席會刊之後一直到1月你們還沒完成就是改變這個車道這個標線就是界面車道劃設這期間如果又被檢舉的你們要怎麼處理? |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
7039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
7054.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
目前下閘道的車太多了所以下閘道第一個先把平面路口的紅綠燈做一些調整讓他下去以後不要那麼堵塞回來當然他的路間車道的邊線我們把它往右邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
7061.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
7061.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
護理局局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
7086.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
7101.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
另外一個部分當然就是有關之前的罰單的部分不曉得可不可以有處理的空間那當然也是建請交通部去研議因為就是說在之前有關這個東西像快速道路、下紮道 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
7102.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
7109.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
就是因為這樣同樣一個狀況行駛路線被檢舉的這種違規情況在台南市警察局他後來是決議就是撤銷那個罰單的那我不曉得這部分有沒有可能江部跟國道警察局再做進一步的一個協調我們提供我們的意見給警方告訴他們說其實在這一段確實不應該開罰啦開罰對於民眾來講有一些不公平的地方那我們把我們的意見給警方因為這個也有法院的一個判決的案例 |
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7131.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
7133.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
7149.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
7150.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
7166.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
7172.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
7188.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
7210.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
所以我們也是基於安全的問題所以希望就是將他納管那目前我們的就是掛牌的數量到底如何是不是可以簡單報告委員目前掛牌的已經到25萬輛左右了那尤其是新車的部分新車的部分目前他出廠之後大概會來領牌的有5萬多大概掛牌率有到98% |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
7211.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
7224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
新車的部分98那舊的部分因為有一些他已經退出了就是也沒有繼續騎了那目前總共有25萬輛已經掛牌是那還沒有掛牌的有去掌握他的原因嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
7226.109 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
7242.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
因為沒有掛牌就要開罰欸對而且他沒有掛牌其實他未來也不能使用那有一些可能是就是說他可能是改裝改裝的太嚴重的話他就縱使是到我們來監理機關來做檢驗的時候是也沒辦法檢驗通過也沒辦法掛牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
7244.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
7245.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
7261.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
7266.975 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
目前我們在基層會遇到的大概兩個狀況就是說因為在法令修訂之前買的這個微型二輪電動車他們沒有那個場證就是沒有那個出場證明所以導致說他們現在要 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
7279.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
7281.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
：審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
7299.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
7308.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
電的那個儲能的問題可能電力不夠續航力不夠啊所以就導致他們會很困難所以是不是就是說針對這兩樣我們也希望我們交通部那個監理所這邊是不是可以研議怎樣來變名然後讓他們可以就是說除了改裝之外這個問題之外就是合法的狀況下他們可以趕快來掛牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
7323.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
7349.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
是報告委員我們會盡量做到點服務啦就是說移工比較聚集的工廠或者是比較重要的路口老人家比較會騎這種車子經過路口我們就到點服務讓大家比較方便能夠來申請來領牌是好謝謝那我再關心最後一個問題就是有關這個人本級交通平權的問題那我們也看到在就是明年我們在公路的公共運輸計畫有編列了6億2100萬 |
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7353.283 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
推動偏鄉及超高齡地區多元運輸服務幸福巴士 |
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：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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7387.535 |
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7390.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
bicyclist 審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7409.267 |
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7427.507 |
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稍後有報告幸福巴士的就是說這個其實已經就是說這個全國重要的一些偏鄉或是需要的鄉鎮其實大概都有那在彰化縣其實我們最近還有收到包括這個大春鄉其實他有提了那我想我們會來協助大春鄉就是說比如說 |
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7427.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
7428.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
公路局及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
7444.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
7445.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7459.278 |
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7482.647 |
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好謝謝因為彰化縣服務員比較廣闊然後也不是像都會區說人口集中像這個臺北臺中或高雄有這個捷運那麼發達所以這個公共運輸還是很重要那也希望我們公路局就是針對有需求的鄉鎮我們是不是可以盡量主動的給予協助他們提出這個申請計畫好這個部分我們主動來協助好謝謝部長謝謝委員好謝謝蘇越早委謝謝部長局長好 |
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7489.127 |
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7493.349 |
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接下來是處理臨時提案之後休息10分鐘,我記得是這樣宣告。現在處理臨時提案一案,請議事人員宣讀。 |
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7529.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
臨時提案一有鑒於宜蘭鐵路高價化計畫致宜蘭縣政府於1993年提出至今已逾30年,然而宜蘭人引頸期盼多年人為果,甚至尚未核定,而阻礙的其中一個主因在於地方經費之匱乏。 |
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7530.516 |
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7557.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
加上近年物價指數費漲導致總經費調整高達約501.29億元地方分攤經費變成約105.72億元租主,增加51.32億元。此金額乃宜蘭縣政府7.1年的可用財源,倘由宜蘭縣政府全額負擔其他施政計劃恐難以執行。原始提案要求交通部 |
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7558.294 |
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7581.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
全額補助宜蘭鐵路高架化計劃至今費以加速宜蘭鐵路高架化之推動與執行促進宜蘭縣之發展與便利並使得其施政計劃等以遂行提案人委員林佩祥等宣讀完畢。好,請問各位委員及行政單位有無意見?那個交通部這邊,好。 |
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7583.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
吳宗憲委員同意 |
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| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
7610.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算 |
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| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
7644.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7650.826 |
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7655.611 |
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兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7670.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
7689.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
所以我們要求淘氣公司要立即做檢討之外我們對於採訪公司也必須要做出採訪那這個採訪我想淘氣公司應該會做決定因為這個採訪必然會作用這個不但影響到淘氣公司的形象也影響到整個機場的運行狀況如果未來這些所謂的補稅公司不會 |
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7710.032 |
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作法和過程當中不照陶瓊公司原先的安排就用他們自己的作法下誘動,必然會引起混亂,所以裁罰是必然要做的。那裁罰的金額會不會是裁罰的方式,是不是可以想到其中一個方式? |
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| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
7738.215 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7738.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
7757.744 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7760.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
7764.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
公路局及所屬單委員會及所屬單委員會及所屬單委員會及所屬單委員會及 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
7776.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
7779.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
7798.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算 |
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7819.699 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
7826.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
7844.939 |
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7866.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位 |
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| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
7877.358 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7890.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
7899.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
7902.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
7912.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審 |
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7926.867 |
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7941.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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7944.66 |
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7968.951 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審 |
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7996.051 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審 |
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8001.933 |
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8024.098 |
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公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路 |
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| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
8037.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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8043.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
8066.563 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審 |
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8074.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
8093.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
8104.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
8110.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
8136.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審 |
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8161.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單十、審 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
8165.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
8167.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
8190.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
8198.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
8209.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
8228.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審 |
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8235.218 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
8256.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
現在繼續開會。繼續邀請黃建豪委員發言。好,謝謝主席。主席我們先請交通部陳部長。請陳部長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
8292.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
部長好委員好這個一開始還是要大家關切我們昨天這兩天這個接機的事件但是我再身為交通委員我不得不說我覺得這個我們陶基跟我們交通這邊背了個鍋我問一下管制區內最高指揮是誰啊?我請總經理回答基本上來講是各單位都有分工 |
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| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
8314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
我想既然要檢討,各單位都要檢討啦,那當然你們是因為在淘機發生,你們當然會變成這個主要的泡爐的……地點在機場。地點在機場嘛,所以一定會有這個問題嘛,但是我必須講,很多網友,包含我自己在那第一天看到了,我想最主要的責任,如果你們真的要檢討的話,國安局有責任啦,那些人怎麼會突然跑到副總統身邊拍照勒? |
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8315.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
8317.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
但是沒有人算,到時候有人衝上來吧?現場有做兩次的場刊,然後跟國安特勤也好,或者是跟體育署也好,甚至我有請淘氣公司也要會同職棒聯盟職棒聯盟的部分他們的意見都要納入,現場其實確實是有做會刊的動作,當時在當天 |
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| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單 |
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стати.19那主要在談人本交通當然其中真正落實以人為本的部分因為鐵道佔了很多啦但這裡人以人為本的編列了五億1700萬大概這個比例來講沒有沒有像本來想像的這麼高但是的確也確實一定要重視這個人本交通部分看一下近年來全國歷年死傷人數根據全國歷年死傷的人數的行人部分 |
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兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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也是這個數字每年大約就是3000人左右上下幾乎沒有什麼改變就是死亡人數110年、111年、112年所以為什麼今天要先提這個數字因為既然我們現在很注重人本交通交通部也編列了這麼多預算也特別匡列出來有一個項目是針對人本交通的部分那到底要做什麼事情我們看一下上上禮拜我覺得有一個這個我想交通委員會不分黨派了這個林玉堅委員上禮拜提的部分我也先呼應他一下 |
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包括行人感應式照明或行人穿越線後要有一些告示牌跟特別路燈指示。我想大家常常出國考察,我們出國不管去歐洲也好,去韓國也好,去東南亞也好,很多國家針對行人的部分他們都有相關的法規。 |
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厲我這個特別也看拿出臺中市政府之前辦的這感應式照明的舉例這行穿線上有特別有特別的亮燈跟特別的這個指示燈讓行人也覺得怎麼安全那開車的人也看得到所以這些部分我想問一下部長我們在明年的所謂的人本價值的部分有沒有把這種法令或是相關的規範能夠放到全國去還是 |
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按照現在的方式來做而已報告員您所說的這個齁您所指的這一點其實我認為非常非常重要啦齁在行穿線的過程當中如果他的亮度可以特別比其他的道路再更亮一點我相信駕駛人或者是騎士齁騎車的騎士們大家會更能夠清楚看到有沒有行人通過所以這個部分交通部會來積極來推動那包含修法的部分我們應該在明年明年初應該就可以來完成吧要會進行檢討 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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法規上應該都要明確的有一個數字出來而不是讓各縣政府因為現在變成是各縣政府各行其事自己做自己的那當然會有時候還是會有爭議嘛那麼當然說交通部你們掌管全國的交通而且我們看到剛剛的數字每年都因為交通事故死這麼多人而且死傷總和是一直往上漲的情況下面應該好好來處理這個事情好不好同樣的一樣回到人行一樣是這個人本交通看到人行道的部分 |
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我想這兩年的確我們也花了很多錢去推動人本交通也做了非常多人行道的更新那我們看到這個是剛好是我最近收到一個澄清案人行道雖然已經鋪設了然後把它變寬了但是人行道這邊都會有這個問題就是電箱 |
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：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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有沒有辦法或是有沒有預算乾脆這種遷移電箱的錢也乾脆編在這裡面就好了報告委員我們目前的這個規劃裡面只要是地方政府跟我們申請的過程當中我們都會希望他把這個納入那經費的部分的補助我們也應該都會有補助這個沒有問題但是管線遷移的部分都會納入但是地方政府在申請的過程當中其實他要先提出來請他先提出來那這個部分我們都會納進來沒有問題所以部長我確認一下 |
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像這種電箱遷移在做新的人行道的時候,包含那個除了工程面之外,像電箱遷移的錢也可以編在這個預算裡面嗎?可以,它可以編在預算裡面,我們會來做補助。好,部長謝謝,這個才是真的解決這個問題啦。我們這個部分吼,我們會支持地方的預算,那另外我們也會跟台電一起來合作,來做這方面的工作。 |
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因為你講到台電每次都是這個問題就是台電會跟你說他沒錢所以常常就遇到這個問題比較常的問題是他找不到地方找不到地方找不到地方是一個問題啦沒錢是一個問題啦所以我還想說至少先把錢解決啦那地方大家可以來協調嘛好不好是好那繼續齁一樣還是我還是很注重我們只要講人本交通部分啦這個緩速波其實在人本交通規劃手冊裡面有把這種減速波的各項的比較優缺點來放進去但是依照現在的現行的狀況 |
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告示道路其實基本上對這種減速坡好像也沒有硬性規定。這個是只有規範但是沒有硬性規定吧。什麼地方該放減速坡?因為其實包含說我們之前討論到了這個假車牌的問題有很多他除了犯罪之外很多人假車牌他不用假車牌被扣車的原因就是差超速因為我們道路就是這樣子嘛他除了有些地方會有車速障礙之外很多地方很好開他就很容易超速那超速之後當然就會收到罰單 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審 |
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是不是就是規範而已並沒有說什麼地方應該放什麼地方不該放我不知道部長在這個事情上面立場上面你未來要不要推動還是說就是按照現在這樣子各地方政府想裝就裝想做就做。委員標誌標線的部分標誌標線的部分我們會比較有強制的部分那這個部分我們做規範的部分也在做檢討當中我覺得委員這個建議很好就是有些地方是不是應該要做減速波我們要一個標準出來讓地方可以去依循 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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包括多少坡度多少設計我希望能夠有法令很明確的把它放進去而不是變成只有建議性質尤其是我們看到一開始那張圖我們每年的死亡人數因為交通事故的死傷人數逐年上漲的情況下我們希望部長能夠把這件事情做好這個我們正在檢討我們會把委員的意見納入謝謝好謝謝謝謝黃建豪委員接下來邀請廖先祥委員質詢 |
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好,謝謝主席,一樣麻煩邀請我們的陳部長,還有我們陶基公司。 |
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市長其實我的觀念跟這個黃建華委員比較相似啦我當然就是單純的批評彩萌或怎樣其實大家罵了很爽但是針對他的罵沒有後續的改善沒有針對制度流程去做改善的話下一次可能還是會發生我想請教一下這次接機我們本來就知道了嘛對不對包括總統委都有發出訊息想確認一下管制內跟管之外的一個簡單的分工到底怎麼樣是不是我請統計公司 |
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議員會議員會議 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審 |
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是我們會跟相關單位確認一下在接機之前有哪一些單位有正式的喊我們淘擠公司或者是支店淘擠公司我們我知道體育署一定會有嘛或是類似總統府應該也會有有正式的發函或是來電告知他們要來接機那需要我們配合有哪些單位有正式的發函或告知 |
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正式發函是有體育署那他是轉棒協的一個職棒聯盟的一個需求那我們就配因為他主要是在管制區外的記者招待的相關以及球員的動線是那在管制區內所以體育署原則上是管制區外嘛的動線的規劃對 |
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那在管制區內的部分的話則是由我們有相關單位包含海關這些CIQS各單位都會來協助配合用最快的方式甚至包含航空公司在行李的一個配送等等都會來充分的協助那至於我們在長廊裡面因為有免稅店的一個設置 |
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所以免稅店這邊的一個等於是夾道歡迎這樣子的一個作用在這裡所以安排蕭美琴副總統在那個地點來迎接國手回來的部分這個點是誰決定的?這個部分是跟國安局特勤大家有敞刊過以後是國安局建議還是你們建議的?就是共同一起去看了這個場地以後 |
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公路局及所屬單位預算。 |
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國安局都會介入嗎?會來對跟我們一起來敞觀也是會提出一些建議嗎?保安的部分還有行警等等各單位會一起來看這個動線空間然後去做適當的一個安排。好那我想有沒有任何一個單位有對彩蒙或是其他裡面的免稅商店提出要求希望他們派員來夾到歡迎?有沒有任何一個單位提出這樣的需求? |
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這一點要跟委員報告因為彩蒙是免稅店業者是我們淘機機場公司的廠商那我們都會希望比如說過去的奧運的一個模式等等我們都希望我們的選手出國或者回國的時候能夠在這個機場裡面能夠感受到我們的一個熱情的支持所以的確我們會跟我們的免稅店業者來商量就是說我們會有一個適當的區域 |
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讓他來...所以是你們來邀請這些免稅商店嗎?是我們淘汰公司?是,我們會跟他們做這方面的討論。好,那所以這個郭北磊也不算委屈啦。人畢竟還是你們叫來的。只是說你們當初可能有告知他就在哪一邊? |
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此外,此外, |
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報告委員,確實啦齁,當時這個彩萌公司沒有依照原本跟這個逃及公司所律定的那個範圍跟區域去做歡迎跟加油的動作。那他們自己未經同意闖進來然後做拍照,那也未經同意拉了那個廣告的布條,這些都是不被允許的,現在他們都做了。 |
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好OK好我講說整個未來不會是就這一次我們希望未來有許多大家歡迎國手凱旋歸國的一些場合那我們就希望說這一次的借鏡那大家都是記取教訓所有單位絕對不只我們淘機公司絕對還有我們的國安單位或是體育署相關單位大家都記取這些教訓把相關的一些更嚴謹的部分要做得更嚴謹好不好 |
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另外有一部分其實在這一次中華隊奪冠之後其實應該是全國舉國歡騰但是過去常常國家在吵的意識形態的問題好像在奪冠之後也產生了一些政治上面的一些紛爭 |
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包括我們新進來立法院的同事王一川委員應該跟您也非常熟識他之前有相關的聯會說他看到中華隊就賭爛當然中華隊的名稱要怎麼參賽這跟我們交通部沒有關係但是他應該不是賭爛中華隊他應該是賭爛中華兩個字我可以這樣子理解我不用去給他過度延伸所以我要問我們部長了 |
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在您就任了之後,我相信有許多政治光譜跟您比較接近的人,可能對中華這兩個字也都很不滿。我想確認一下,那我們中華航空公司的改名,在您就任之後,有沒有任何的委員或任何人跟你提過要繼續中華,就是我們這個華航,中華航空公司要改名,要繼續推動? |
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9333.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
9353.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
報告委員,到目前為止沒有做過這方面的討論沒有做過討論,可是王一川、篤蘭很多人都說要講台灣不要講中華沒有委員跟我提過這件事所以就是可能大家喊一喊但是實際上沒有來要求你來做改名這樣子沒有沒有所以中華航空在短期內沒有改名的計畫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9360.501 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
9383.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
9398.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
頒球盛事,就是WBC的今年賽的預賽,那一樣在大巨蛋在我們臺灣舉辦。那請教一下,因為我們過去高鐵常常會配合一些這個大型的活動,給他一些票價的一些優惠,對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
9400.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
9401.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
9423.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
9439.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
主辦單位來做一個搭配就是讓這個高鐵票配上我們中華隊的一個國際賽的一個門票來做一個搭配有沒有機會來做一個討論因為高鐵公司是上市櫃公司他有他公司治理的層面那交通部其實是股東之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
9440.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
9464.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
這個部分委員的建議非常好我可以來建議他們因為這個在商業上面的操作來講對他們也會有好處對公司有正面形象正面形象也會有好處所以這個部分我們來跟他們建議是好那就麻煩部長那看因為時間緊迫已經是明年3、4月是要討論也是是不是能夠在今年底之前能夠有一個回應這樣子好這個部分我來先跟他們討論那請他們跟委員做回應好好滿滿謝謝好謝謝委員好謝謝廖先祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
9469.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
9470.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
接下來邀請油耗委員發言。有請部長。有請陳部長。謝謝召委。 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
9491.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
9512.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
委員好部長好那延續著剛才先祥委員所提到的那這個意識形態的話不要去衝擊許多原本的價值那在剛才也有提到如果說王逸川他又在要求部長一定要把中華航空改名的話那你可以堅守中華航空不會因此而改名吧 |
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| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
9534.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
報告委員目前都沒有這樣的討論所以這個大概是一個猜測或者是好那假如這樣子那你也為中華航空講講話可以捍衛著中華航空吧我是覺得中華航空這個名字也蠻久了齁那大家也用的蠻習慣的那改名勢必要經過很長的一個討論更大規模的討論所以你也是支持中華航空嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
9535.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
9547.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
欸我覺得目前沒有聽到需要改名字的這個說法。好那沒關係那我大致上我就直接跟部長確認就是原則上中華航空歷史悠久你也是覺得中華航空繼續存在是正確的嘛。 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
9548.166 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
9555.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
9572.757 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
9574.778 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
9589.449 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
9613.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
部長今天許多的都是在講這個階級我們的英雄回台啊那這個進來的過程中是非常的艱辛啊那我想是不是可以您就是簡短20秒30秒回應一下總結那麼多委員的一個質詢跟關心預計改善裁法的一個重點簡單30秒把幾個重點列一下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
9613.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
9637.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
報告委員檢討的部分其實在管制區外面是跟體育署配合那管制區外面看起來的這個狀況是還好包含拍照的地方也是職棒聯盟那邊有去建議那這個部分沒有問題那管制區內其實這一次該綠定都有綠定那有廠商沒有配合當時的綠定這就是應該要檢討的部分就是為什麼第一為什麼他沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
9637.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
9641.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
9651.068 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
9653.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
9676.392 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
9687.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
一萬一千七百台的市民公車截至二零二三年已經累積推動了一八八三輛的電動車領排他這個數據是公路局的時候提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
9688.427 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
9709.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
但是我們在看到他的目標要打到非常的辛苦那因為時間有限那我們在看後面的資料在2024年113年8月那這個現有公車及市區汽車客運電動大車佔比佔表的部分那他總車輛是14683那其中電動大客車到2024年8月底是1846 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
9716.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
9732.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
那先姑且不論他的這個進度打到2030年的目標是非常的有距離那想問一下兩個數據同樣都是官方數據為何在2023年1883量到2024年的8月反而降為降為這個1846量 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
9744.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
9770.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
這個我是不是請市長跟委員好,沒關係市長剛剛我們大概畫面上有兩個課題啦第一個部分就是說電動大哥車1846然後那個數據有一些變動我們如果記得的話像台中私公車四方客運有這個推出然後有一些比較早期的那個車輛有進出的這些相關的部分所以那個有新車進來有舊車進出去這我清楚那所以說凸顯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
9790.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
這一年的部分來講還是維持在1800左右但是公路局今年這個核定的增加這個2000多輛那2000多輛的話目前各地方政府都陸陸續續在核給這個客運業者這邊那客運業者也開始這個訂車然後等等的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
9791.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
9806.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
沒關係,那個我但是在數據上在凸顯啦,藍頭線目前是0啊,那在520那時候,質詢的時候,司長跟局長知道就是要請這個交通部來不僅是協助我的選區藍頭, |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
9836.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
還包括在2030年的目標我相信這個其實要加把勁那我再次還是要肯定其實像交通部或公路局對於南投其實也幫忙很多的事情像是幸福巴士所以說本期在這裡提出這個部分希望未來的後面的五年六年那能夠緊鑼密鼓還能夠加把勁那最後再補充一下就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
9836.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
9851.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
在之前的交通部所開的會議那也有提到這個除了車體的補助那在國內國產的電芯電池他這個部分其實確實跟國外來講還是需要去做協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
如何能夠讓整體的電動巴士或是在我們台灣的電動產業能夠來提升所以還是希望交通部在那次的會議之後有提到國產的電芯電池的補助藉此來提高相關電動巴士業者意願能夠達到2030年淨零排碳的目標我在想在這裡也提出希望你們能夠納入討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
9880.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
9885.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
報告委員這個部分沒有問題,只要是用國內的電芯我們的補助也會再加碼。預計加碼多少?100還是150萬? |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
9912.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
與委員報告目前是這個增加100萬的一個補助。我的想如果說要評估一下如果現在的進步那麼緩慢的話是不是需要再加倍?跟委員報告一下那個電子那個國產化這個電芯的部分的話目前啦大概國內有兩大廠在做這個努力可能量產的部分是在這個明年啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
9921.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
9941.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
9969.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
就是在預算書跟資料上面得知目前來講車禍的死亡或是交通事故的死亡他目前是這七個月來講是5.7%跟目前要降低的10%還是有一個差距但是在預算書上面所呈現的這個宣傳費是增加了112.7%那在增列的那個宣傳預算他要怎麼宣傳要怎麼改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
9971.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
9988.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
報告委員這個部分的宣傳我們主要會放在比較高齡者的宣傳因為我們現在看到數據上面看到高齡者的這個事故跟死亡的這個數字其實還蠻高的而且逐年在增高那這個部分我們相當擔心我們希望說在整個交通觀念的宣導的部分我們可以再做加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
10015.942 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
包括 TV通路也好社群通路也好甚至我們在各個地方也都有辦活動希望能夠讓老人家能夠聽到一些比較安全的這些交通的概念那這個部分我們會持續來努力那本期還是建議預計增加的這個部分如何能夠讓老人能夠清楚知道以及受到這個宣導那相關的規劃其實要交通委員會的委員能夠充分知道 |
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10016.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
10035.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
那最後因為宣傳費的增加還都是非常的敏感那所以是希望錢花在刀口上這個部分我們所增加的預算全部都是拿來讓交通安全的觀念的宣導的部分更加強好那就希望能夠有效降低是好謝謝委員好謝謝遊浩委員接下來邀請徐富奎委員發言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
謝謝主席。有請我們交通部陳部長還有人事處陳處長。請陳部長還有人事處處長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
10072.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
10087.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
部長、處長,早安好。我想我們臺灣隊這次拿下世界冠軍,我想舉國歡騰。我本席印象很深,我們前幾天也是在討論說我們要給我們的出國的球員, |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
10092.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
10117.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
最好的一個領域做這個提出這個機位的問題那我們的這個指棒的這個我們這個代表隊的豪爽也不負國人的期待起了世界冠軍回來那尤其這個昨天這個整個我們在臺北這樣子一個遊街把我們的總統都來接近真的是很振奮那不過遺憾的就是這個今天大家討論的弄起來說陶磯的這個一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
10119.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
10148.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
那我想這個部長跟這個團隊交通部的相關的團隊我想這個因為這個問題也不是只有交通部也有涉及到我們體育署跟教育部那我想部長檢討一定是要檢討啦但是未來面對我們現在陸陸續續有很多的國際大賽我們也有很多的希望可以拿冠軍回來那一旦回到我們的國門的時候我們未來怎麼樣在避免這樣的事情發生部長有沒有什麼想法是,報告委員齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
10149.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
10170.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
沒有錯這是接機的動作跟工作其實是很多的部門大家跨部門一起合作的但是地點在淘機淘機就應該要負起責任那我們這次有看到有某些亂象的產生那某些亂象的產生是因為有些公司他沒有配合原本淘機跟大家綠定的方式所以有造成一些混亂跟困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
10192.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
這個部分陶器公司也嚴格要求這些廠商在未來如果有我們國家的英雄要出國或是要回國的時候千萬不要再有這樣的動作那這一次為了讓大家有所警惕我們也提出裁罰針對這樣子的廠商沒有依照原本律定跟規定的方式下去做的廠商我們會提出裁罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
10193.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
10209.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
不是啊,我想你過去擔任過民意代表也在我們的行政院服務過過去我想只要正副總統這個在外面不管是考察或是有行程這個維安很重要啊竟然會發生這樣的一個問題,不可思議啊那當然淘機的部分要做檢討之外 |
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| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
10232.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
我覺得逃機者檢討報告跟檢討的過程可能也要跟這個國安單位、國安特勤人員的這個單位大家來做討論。未來我們的元首接下來我們總統可能要出國。元首或副元首的出國跟回國或者是接機的動作應該怎麼樣在機場可以讓大家在最安全的狀況底下不要去擔心我們元首或副元首的安全。 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
10232.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
10255.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
部長我想這個昨天看到那個電視的鏡頭我們採盲的這個董事長帶工作人員如惡無人之際啊有弄到一個副總統的面我想你昨天你有震怒也提到這個我們特定的這個廠商不應該成為這個特定的這個那個宣傳工具我想這部分還是要請部長除了檢討之外未來真的怎樣一個防範作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
10257 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
10257.921 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
10273.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
10288.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
另外最近媒體有針對我們交通部有提了幾個霸凌的一個事情包含我們的台鐵公司我們高雄港務土地開發公司還有高雄建立所這些媒體都有相關的一個報導那針對這樣的一個狀況部長跟人事處長有沒有掌握相關的一個訊息 |
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報告委員這個部分我們有掌握整個交通部所屬的體系大概到目前為止統計起來有18件在我們部本部是有一件那觀光署有三件公路局有四件那民用航空局有兩件那港澳公司有五件郵政公司兩件然後台鐵公司一件那每一個案件我們所接到的之後我們都是照相關的規定在程序上認真在辦理而且 |
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這個程序上一定不能夠延遲我們有特別要求程序上不能夠延遲我想我很高興聽到部長我們因為左院長也有要求我們相關的部會要全面清查那我想我們這個部長也很主動積極這個 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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我想跟委員在做個說明的這個反霸凌專區這是我們一直以來就有這樣的機制那包括霸凌因為這樣的事情事實上在部裡面我們一直都有在監控就每年事實上都有定期調查村長那我想這個檢舉的同仁他們最擔心就是怕被洩密嗎? |
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adequate to the process to ensure the safety of the police officers. |
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過去的專業輔導我想應該都有在做啦那細節的部分有沒有需要請處長來回答一下各位委員報告因為我們每個機關幾乎都有一個EAP的就是員工協助方案的機制那交通部這邊這個不但是這個被霸凌者甚至連霸凌的這一位長官如果是長官或部署我們都會有一定的輔導機制 |
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我想交通部的這個組織很龐大真的是要特別的小心尤其我們現在這個年輕的同仁他們好不容易考上這個公職希望在工作職場好好的表現但是有可能受到過去我們長官這個一向過去可能的這個上對下的一個關係的處理可能會造成同仁的心理受創這我想這要特別的尤其我們現在這個議題非常非常的敏感有的人希望部長跟人事處這邊能夠繼續 |
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我們會接好每一個囚啦。就是說每一位如果受到霸凌或者受到委屈的這個我們交通部體系的所有的員工我們有一個很完善的這個體制可以讓大家來申訴那申訴完之後我們也會接住每一個人我們會接住每一個人不會讓任何一個人被辣掉 |
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這我們在努力勞動部這個血淋淋的教訓真的是值得我們要去檢討啦是是好謝謝那處長那個情況那接著我想針對屏東縣的交通問題還是要請部長跟公路局長這邊來多幫忙那我們上次針對這個偏南快速道路我們也辦理了考察那本席也在我們的博規辦公室也積極的跟環境部相關的部會來做協調希望能夠分段跟這個施工能夠分段環評那目前不曉得有沒有最新的一個進度 |
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議員議員 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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因為九月份他大概原則通過然後十一月就是大概這幾天我們就是把這個修正的報告送到環境部那接下來明年度要做相關的設計那因為設計的部分我們會找就是說優先的這個標案來競速來做這一個處理那我想包括明年或者是後年我們看看能不能有一個優先標能夠來動工 |
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包括我為了要加速我們設計跟用地取得我們合併一起來進行我們一起併行明年就會來進行另外用地取得部分我還是要提醒這個要加快因為有時候一些鄉親他對於這個土地徵收的這個價格什麼各方面會有很多的意見那如果你要經過複查複估這都拖很久了這應該加快來進行好這個部分我們來加快 |
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好那最後一個我想平中線這個交通建設的部分我們還是持續要求交通平權那針對我們生活圈的道路還有很多鄉鎮的戀外道路還有一些橋樑的一個改建也迫不及待一定要請這個交通部來幫忙因為縣政府的這個財力我們是列作第五級這很辛苦的啦那我想這個我們的六年的生活圈道路我們有幾個案子 |
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但是都被公路局這邊審查有一些意見,包含我們有一些憑25線長治生活圈的工業區的林外道路還有墾丁大街的改善還有憑113線的一個改善工程還有最重要就是我們未來希望我們針對憑119線 |
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還有憑119甲線、憑200線跟憑200線甲線這四個路段未來改編成一個省道。我想這個你有沒有去過鄉村報到嗎?這我們整個串聯之後我們發現這個路型必須優化要提升一個行駛的一個效能最重要是要增加觀光的一個吸引力跟交通的安全性 |
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那這部分如果可以做有效一個整合然後讓公路局跟縣政府對面能夠來合作我想對整個航村半島的公路的這個一個維護還有這個整個一個觀光的發展是有很大的一個誘因這個部長願不願意支持報告委員這個部分我們都會支持那我們會跟縣政府大家來來溝通啦因為他那個計畫要寫得比較完善一點到時候在我們的委員會裡面要審查也會比較容易通過所以我們會來協助縣政府怎麼把計畫寫得更完善 |
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最後一個就是要拜託氣象署陳署長我們去年跟農業部有做一個農業氣象的資訊服務那有希望說在三年要投入2.15億建置100多個農業氣象站那以屏東來講非常非常需要因為我們最近這個細粒胎、紅胎真的對我們造成很大的一個農業的損害 |
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如果說能夠做一個精準的一個災害天氣的一個參數的一個依據我想我們就可以協助農村免限看這對我們的農業部也好我們的公所縣政府還有我們的農民來講都是一個很便民的一個措施那這部分署長能不能再幫忙加快速度 |
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謝謝委員 |
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謝謝許富奎委員接下來邀請蔡其昌委員發言謝謝主席請交通部陳部長請陳部長 |
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部長謝謝,首先先代表這一次的臺灣隊,就是我們的中華隊,謝謝交通部的支持,因為我是領隊,所以我總教練曾豪駒、我們的隊長陳潔憲,對於這一次我們在協調過程裡面能夠做這些安排, |
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他們表示謝謝因為他們也不能來立法院謝謝所以就由我這個領隊代表國家對交通部表示感謝也謝謝委員跟聯盟的努力對因為主要時間這麼短的時間內能夠幫這個因為去城是因為那個是大會安排的那回城要回到大會沒有安排所以要回到我們 |
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自己的身上所以交通部在很短的時間內協調華航包括我們在東京我們這麼大的這個龐大的國家隊的這些成員要到貴賓室的使用也都速度非常的快讓每一個這個球員都可以這個 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審 |
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你們應該要借鏡啦就是應該要記取這個教訓那但是我也不吝嗇說啦我自己知道因為我也是被接機的人那我的感覺的確就是我跟同仁我不知道同仁的意見是什麼那我的感覺我被接機的感覺就是我覺得那個可能球迷的熱情超乎了主辦公司機場公司的想像就是我也沒有想過會有這麼多人這麼熱情 |
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所以我在門口我就已經覺得有一點一出那個機門我就有點緊張特別已經看到那個外面已經聲音那麼大啊所以當時你看到一個畫面我抱著那個陳捷憲的兒子就是我忽然跟他講說你可能出去會很忙的之類的所以一路從出來我就抱著他兒子然後到要出那個門的時候因為他要找媽媽抱 |
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所以我在把兒子還給他所以我的意思要表達這個只是在講說我覺得那個那個接機的熱情可能也都超乎我們的想像那這個想像也可以理解是因為 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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機場公司的預估啦所以這個動線的想像裡面可能過去你們也辦過奧運的街機可能也辦過其他街機沒有遇過這麼熱情的應該是史上最熱情的一次也是人數最多的一次對對對我也知道啦因為我被街機的人我自己都站在那裡 |
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bicyC. |
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因為太多人拉著我的手說會長會長走這裡走這裡我都不知道要走哪裡才是哪一個是負責引導我的人所以我就發現大家都很熱情的要引導我連我自己都在confuse我都問旁邊的人說我接下來要走哪裡我要去哪裡接下來我要做什麼我自己都不知道我要做什麼 |
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所以我的意思是說那個混亂必然但是這個混亂當中那個不適當的行為也應該要記取這一次的教訓那為什麼我一直講教訓是因為我內心期望我們還有下一個世界冠軍下一次就不可以這樣子就是下一次的世界冠軍因為我們不希望只有一次我們希望能夠延續那我們第一次拿到世界冠軍辦得不夠完美 |
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第二次就要完美那以後我們長長世界冠軍那就已經成為SOP了啦這是我對棒球的期待我還是把它列為SOP因為以後會長長冠軍所以這些教訓我希望交通部特別是機場公司一定要去注意啦那個熱情已經超乎了那個想像這是第一個我想要表達一個感謝跟一個應該要檢討的部分謝謝委員好那第二個部分我想這個 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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這個樓梯齁要我問說無障礙設施在哪裡他們告訴我說這個樓梯要先走上去才有無障礙設施那那那那這個樓梯的無障礙設施到底在哪裡齁這個就是讓我覺得這個設計 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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因為可能你場地過去的規劃設計導致必須要由指標來引導,所以你就要想辦法讓那個指標更清楚的可以來引導,好不好,不然的話這個真的要開捏。我們這段時間在開戶之前的話,我們都一直在持續的針對用戶委員的反應,我們就直接來檢討。就直接繼續聽這些意見來優化。好,那時間的關係我就質詢到這裡,好謝謝。 |
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好,謝謝蔡啟昌委員質詢。在這邊也要感謝蔡啟昌委員在這次協助中華職棒在12強以及出國參與世界盃比賽得獎的過程的協助,謝謝。接下來邀請邱若驊委員質詢。 |
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謝謝主席主席我們先請交通部陳部長請陳部長 |
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部長好 委員好今天有看到交通部114年度的施政計畫那其中有提到逢合交通斷鏈還有提供無縫連結運輸服務建構北中南都會區捷運路網那本席要再次的請部長寫出一件事那本席 |
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當任立委以來非常重視我們地方的交通建設那過去不管是在交通委員會還是在院會有多次針對三一線延伸巴的案進行諮詢那從今年的9月20日交通部呈報行政院後至今68天了 |
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11311.612 |
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完全沒有任何消息本席這段時間也有問行政院只得到陳和中的答覆本席想再次的請部長提醒院長我們盡快來將本案核定以利後續的作業我們會跟行政院這邊來溝通看可不可以速度再加快因為我們交通部這邊的意見都已經完整了都沒有問題也送到了行政院國發會那邊也應該意見也都已經整合了這個部分我們就請院那邊我們再加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
11312.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
11320.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
期待部長的好消息主席我們有接著請我們高工局趙局長還有陶基的范總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
11328.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
11352.317 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
局長還有總經理我們本期在上週三有詢問陶吉未來周邊的聯外道路是否有連結第三的聯外道路還有相關議題嘛那陶吉當時有回覆本期有規劃國一甲作為聯外道路那今天我們就國一甲的設計還有規劃部分這邊要就教部長還有局長那國一甲主要是航空城計畫興建道路之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11352.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
11375.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
他的目的是為了要紓解航空城港區還有淘機的客貨運然後並且改善台四線南侃交通用車的問題那我們看到這個計畫還有這個規劃那就本席瞭解目前規劃中桃武交流道的設計規劃至機場的連外道部長局長沒有錯吧是桃武交流道的部分目前暫定高架會經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
11377.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
11385.456 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
行牆路、碧新碧道路、連接現有的行情南路將原本通往台四線的道路廢除那這邊要請問部長還有局長目前的規劃是這樣子嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
11387.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
11415.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
因為在目前的原來的行情北路南北路的部分它是跟台四線是一個協交的一個路口那我們先來講是說國一甲它進來這個路的閘道的部分它必須要找空間我們從那個那個擴音園區那邊過來的時候它必須要找空間可以布設閘道的位置那我們在這個地方的一個協調的一個方案我們跟桃園市政府跟桃機公司有共同協商就選擇這個方案來做一個處理所以這個是桃園市政府高工局還有桃機 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
11416.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
11417.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
11436.427 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
11463.891 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
這個要看那個淘機那邊後面的一個處理啦那基本上來講我們是說以現在既有的國一甲的閘道為優先因為未來的大量車流一定是走那個閘道那至於說橋下的空間我們也會佈設他的檢接國四在台四線的一個閘道那個地方道路也會佈設是如果我們將現有道路改為專用出口的話這樣可以讓那個機場他的道路增加也可以紓解國一甲他的閘道車流量那部長您的看法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
11464.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
11486.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
報告委員這個部分我們有陶基公司跟公路局還有高工局還有就是說陶園市政府就是地方政府比較了解地方的交通的狀況大家一起來會商那如果會商之後覺得這樣子的建議會是比較好的方式那或許就會採用這樣的建議但是目前我這樣聽起來應該是陶基公司跟高工局他們希望路線相對單純一些路線相對單純一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
11489.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
11501.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
今天早上也有詢問桃園市政府,他們說這個設計和規劃都是在交通部,然後是由高工局,那也在請高工局這邊和桃園市政府還有陶器公司進行討論,看是不是不要將這個道路廢除。 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
11504.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
11505.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
11547.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
11569.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
那部長您這邊看到看到什麼樣的問題?是就是行人過路的過程當中如果太慢的話其實對於旁邊的車子的運行也大概會有一些問題。是那駕駛有表示齁如果不理讓行人的話要被罰六千如果理讓然後闖紅燈的話會罰兩千七啊。部長如果您是駕駛的話您會怎麼辦?遇到這樣的狀況那會有該有什麼樣的權利救濟? |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
11572.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
11587.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
我還是會等行人啦我還是會停等行人啦我覺得現在我們人本交通很重要那也以行人為優先還是以行人為優先如果是我自己我會選擇先停等但是如果假使這樣的駕駛 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
11588.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
11605.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
他要面對6000或者是2700的這個罰則的這個問題的時候我想我們是不是也應該要稍微檢討一下就是說如果他在等行人的過程當中所以造成了他有這個有可能闖紅燈的這個罰則的話那這個部分可能我們要檢討OK那我們接著看第二部影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
11630.316 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
11630.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
及所屬單位預算。 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
11638.061 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
11661.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
請問部長在我們可以看到行人和騎士斑馬線上是可以等計程車的嗎?您認為騎士的做法對嗎?騎士的作為在那個地方繼續等行人這個做法是正確但是斑馬線上不應該作為在等計程車的一個地方斑馬線就是行人穿越道就應該要走過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
11661.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
11676.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
那當然速度也要加快在可以的範圍之內自己速度要加快因為你越快速通過其實對自己的安全越有保障那我們目前現在有沒有相關的法律可以對這三位民眾做進行約束他們的行為進行約束好我是不是請司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
11677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
11678.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
11703.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
11705.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
11761.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
11764.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
部長、市長,我們面對這樣的行人,你們兩位會怎麼做? |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
11771.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
11771.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
11792.441 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
11819.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
巴馬縣上面遛烏龜巴馬縣上面等計程車巴馬縣上面的逗留者目前的罰款只有500元那這個500元能夠減少類似的行為嗎那本席今天沒有邀部長還有市長我們就是直接的做回答那今天請部長思考這樣的問題是這個部分確實是要檢討就是說行人在過馬路的過程當中還是要專心還是要快速那這個除了教育面之外其他的部分我們也來做檢討OK好謝謝部長謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
11821.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
11827.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
謝謝邱若驊委員接下來邀請魯明哲召委質詢好謝謝主席有請我們陳部長請陳部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
11851.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
11851.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
第一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
11873.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
11897.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
好的我們來看一下就直接進入主題就是行人地域大概是幾年前這個有些國外媒體的這樣一個報導好像一直纏著我們這個台灣的一個交通的一個情況那我也看到由於在交通委員會特別有感覺啦那我們交通部包括地方政府也做了很多努力啦有很多的一個想法包括我們看了包括現在很多的科技執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
11898.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
11899.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
11923.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
11940.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
adequate問到路口的部分整體的死傷數我們覺得路口重點要怎麼樣解決先處理因為看這三年在路口的死傷數大約都佔了一半一半左右你上個禮拜也特別說下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
11943.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
11957.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
昨天禮拜有特別說就針對於路口的部分很多的照明實在是蠻差的因為有時候那個路燈大的馬路它幾十米一支然後剛好到路口有時候有有時候沒有有時候距離越遠有時候距離越近 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
11959.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
11980.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
我們來看一下在行人交通事故的死亡的部分剛剛是傷亡都算死亡的部分我們也發覺110年到112年這三年總共算一算夜間就是完完全全黑掉要靠我們人工的燈光靠燈光的輔助這個的部分這個時段 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
11984.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
12000.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
三年總共加起來大概六成五六成五是在夜間發生的死亡這個事故那我想說你上個禮拜有特別說那路口的燈光確實要怎麼樣去改善這是一個可行的方向現在有沒有想具體要怎麼做從哪開始做 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
12001.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
12020.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
報告委員我們目前在這個法規上面的綠定我們在針對這個亮度的部分我們會做一個新的設置啦好新的要求目前正在做檢討當中我們希望未來的所有的路口它的亮度要做足夠這是一方面那二方面剛剛委員所問的是這個亮度的部分就是路口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
12021.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
12023.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
12048.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
12050.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
12064.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
12084.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
桃園市政府事辦了路口雙色溫來提高行人安全的一個方案然後也得到110年我們交通部第13屆道安創新的貢獻獎其中的交通工程組的第一名殊榮那到底發生什麼事呢來簡單來說他們在主要事辦的路口 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
12092.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
12115.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
就是因為現在很多的一個道路包括我們省道都一樣大部分都用穿透率比較高的色溫大概3000K啊3000K的黃光偏黃光省線都是這樣那他們在改善的過程中加裝入口的路燈但是採用的是五色溫5000K就是偏白光所以整個視覺看上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
12117.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
12144.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
bicyclist 駕駛人在三、四十公尺的時候就發覺這直覺,這直覺不是要看什麼符號,直覺式,狀況變了。就是直覺式的提醒,結果效果是下一頁。實踐的一個效果,連續事辦了三年,從109年、110年得獎之後,持續的去看,到去年年底,大概在這個事辦的入口的狀況, |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
12146.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
12169.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
交通事故造勢、月間造勢的行人受傷、傷亡的事件大概降低了將近四成那我在想說這個你們最佳貢獻獎那就貢獻啊、貢獻給誰呢?現在到底貢獻給誰呢?當然桃園我看到還要繼續做啦那這個你頒完獎之後就回去休息了嗎?那這個部分基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
12170.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
12172.073 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
﹐一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
12186.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
12203.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
報告委員我們的這個照明規範在年底之前會修訂完成那您現在所提供的這個建議相當的好我覺得我們的相關單位應該要把它列入討論而且要把它列入推廣的一個範圍那再拜託委員可以的話指教我們一些資料讓我們來特別來討論這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
12204.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
12226.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
12226.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
12227.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
12251.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
12265.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
各個城市的標準盡量給他一個指示能夠一致化如果真的覺得這樣的成本又不貴又好的話我覺得希望交通部和公路局先做好不好這個我們先來自己做然後再來推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
12266.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
12287.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
好下一頁那接下來就簡短齁這個要拜託一下齁那一天特別謝謝我們部長齁跟幾位包括署長局長來到我們中壢的青埔齁那時候很多的我們的鄉親也非常關心明年的台灣燈會在桃園要舉辦齁那我們在九年前105年那時候辦了一次當時的統計的參觀人數啊超過兩千萬人齁然後持續到 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
12294.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
12297.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
12321.787 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
12342.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
從九年前的大約評估兩萬五千個車格現在只剩八千多個現在他們的一個情況還好還好有集結因為一百零五的時候集結還沒有上路集結但是雙北的我們希望觀光客到處會引導但是最重要的自己開車的我們要必須這個轉運點這輸運計畫很重要下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
12347.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
12353.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
已經辦很多年其他地方的單位我們今年在討厭過去其他地方有的討厭不可以沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
12355.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
12374.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
其他有的桃園一定要有,而且其他要有的還要有。我在旁邊偷笑,就是今天要問你。我在想你這句話講的,是真的滿符合我的意見。就是說,好,下一頁。那我們就直接了,直接講。就是去年的一個台南燈會,在交通輸運接駁的一個計畫的補助。 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
12378.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
12403.846 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
那去年談登惠陽因為你那天檢報嘛只有觀光署檢報說這個輸贏計畫就是一千兩百萬那多的好像找不到經費但是我們幫你找出來了好不好我們也跟台南市政府大家來幫忙一下他們整個輸贏計畫總共拿了四千九百萬那其中有三千七百萬是從公路局拿的所以我想這個公路局這個經費還是有吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
12408.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
12422.055 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
公路局有經費,不過就是說因為接駁計畫基本上每個都市他比如說他的設置的地點然後接駁的路線然後每一個接駁路線開的班次,所以這個部分大概就是說他的需求計畫過來我們會協助他們。 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
12426.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
12448.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
因為你在去年台南燈會啊其實你就算今年啦今年年初啊台南燈會是從你向下的大型活動輸入供應計畫補助啦其實你原本他要4200萬那你只補助2700萬就聞他退來退去退來退去那再一次變成3700萬都有一個過程我只在這邊跟部長報告啦就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
12464.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
12464.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
12465.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
12482.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
12497.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
這個去年度這個台南燈會你補助3700萬差不多我們希望你們審視完整個計畫該調整該怎麼做但是經費要拜託一定要到位好不好是這一定會協助好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝魯明哲召委接下來邀請陳培宇委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
12516.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
12516.055 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
請陳部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
12526.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
12554.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
好部長午安我們時間有限了我想我就先直接切入不過今天早上很多委員都問了啦那部長你有所表示了但是我要提醒一個是在我看了今天早上很多委員都沒有說到的其實在這個黃金之亂之前過往我們的奧運選手歸國的時候其實也有發生類似的問題但可能因為大家過往沒有那麼關注奧運選手的狀況所以大家不知道大家好像覺得是第一次但是部長我要跟你說這真的不是第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
12555.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
12579.299 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
報告委員其實我知道不是第一次因為我在跟淘氣公司通電話在講這件事情的時候不是總經理也不是董事長我跟其他幹部通電話的時候我說當時我在擔任發言人的時候我陪院長到機場去歡送我們奧運的團隊要出國的時候我有看到類似的狀況沒錯沒錯那當時就有這樣的狀況那這一次又是類似的狀況我認為未來不能再發生同樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
12580.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
12582.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
12610.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
12635.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
好部長你知不知道他為什麼一直低頭往下而且他完全沒有辦法好好的坐在椅背上然後那個空服人員一直在跟他講話他喝醉了而且這個飛機還沒有起飛但是他所坐的位置其實就是那個出口的位置齁那當時這個是我們收到一個陳情有一位乘客他搭乘6月20BR67由台北飛往倫敦中間停曼谷的航班那當時呢他們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
12636.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
12663.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
附近的人都有聞到這個人其實有非常非常重的酒味可是我們的國際航空還是放任讓這位旅客上了飛機那上了飛機之後呢他們判斷他們判斷認為他不適合坐那個位子就要求其他旅客跟他換位子部長你坐過飛機嗎那個那一排的位子旁邊應該還有人對不對所以照理說他如果不適合跟旁邊的人換因為是第一排嘛出口的安全出口那往後一排但是呢來跟我們陳情這位朋友他說他其實是坐在那個人後兩排 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
12664.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
12665.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
12681.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
12688.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
應該把他請下飛機吧,不應該讓這麼醉的人在飛機上。他就跟航空公司寫了客服信,也要求了澄清相關處理。我們來看一下,他的寫法是說,航空公司一開始說他不知道,後來知道了。他認為是非安問題,他也提出了,但是航空公司沒有及時回應。後來航空公司給了他的回饋說是他們溝通未盡完善。他認為這個草草了事的狀態真的很糟。我想問一下部長, |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
12708.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
12728.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
我時間有限。我想部長你覺得這算不算非安問題。這個如果會影響到出口的這個安全。是沒錯我剛剛講他講他做的是出口那一盤。所以確實是會影響對不對。要看當時他喝當然是喝醉啦。他非得很醉。那喝醉的狀況底下會不會去影響到那個門。如果會影響到那這個就是非安問題就一定要處理。 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
12729.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
12756.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
沒錯好我們來看一下那這個航空公司其實過往他們有類似的經驗而且不是第一次也就是說這樣的事情一再發生但是航空公司卻用這樣的態度來面對那部長您剛也說了如果他喝得很醉而且他坐在那個出口安全那一排那確實如果發生了什麼事情確實就會有飛安的問題所以部長你也這樣認為那我們來看一下這個是他們給這個乘客的回覆他們說最終該外籍乘客被請下機可是呢這個是欸等一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
12758.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
12776.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
這個是後續民航局的回覆民航局也認定相關的他們的處理方法疑似涉及違反前述出口座位安排計劃規定也就是民航局其實也認定他們這個處理是不好的但是我們整個看起來我覺得還是不夠的積極我們來看一下那根據民航法其實有相關規定部長你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
12778.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
12785.767 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
是因為罰則不夠重導致於這樣不當行為不斷在飛機上發生然後我們的空服人員也沒有做出適當的處理甚至在後續回覆給這個乘客的陳情書的時候態度只有說我們只是溝通不夠友善他們沒有認為自己是沒有把非安的問題處理好可是我們看到民航局剛那個公文說他們認為可能還是有涉及非安的問題那部長你自己認為是罰則的問題還是我們後續還有什麼經濟管理的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
12804.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
12818.348 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
我認為其實經濟管理的部分當然大家可以來討論但是航空公司要把飛航安全視為最重要的一個原則我們還是希望說航空公司在這方面的要求尤其是自我的要求應該要提高一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
12819.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
12820.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
接下來邀請黃國昌委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
12857.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
12857.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
大鵬灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
12884.144 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
12910.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
的建設2015年的時候我們的前省長宋楚瑜說要把大鵬灣打造成超越夏威夷那去年的時候我們的賴清德總統候選人現在是總統了說要把大鵬灣打造成夏威夷針對總統這樣子的政見目前交通部有沒有具體的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
12912.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
12935.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
報告委員我們大鵬灣我們下午有一個交通部的這個招商的這個大會那大鵬灣也是列為一個非常重要的案子那我們在下午的招商大會也會向一些廠商說明我們希望他未來可以做一個更好的開發目前為止大鵬灣投資了多少錢部長知道嗎過去投資的金額我這邊沒有關係我一樣一樣跟部長報告謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
12938.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
12966.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
之前到2021年之前為止投入了53億投入了53億53億錢砸下去好像石頭丟到池塘裡面去就聽到咚一聲就沒有了說大鵬灣是蚊子灣可能太沉重可是某個程度上面也反映了現實現在看起來狀況確實是不太好 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
12967.173 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
12990.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
所以部長也覺得現在看起來狀況不是太好嗎?你講不夠好可能某個程度上也太客氣了我想用很糟糕來形容或許比較貼切但我們不要執著於形容詞上面我看到從過去2012年 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
12993.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
13019.908 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
每一年都有編大鵬灣國家風景區建設計畫然後每一個計畫大概都是十幾億、十七億這樣的丟從2024年開始就像從今年開始啦又編了10億嘛所以大概每一年丟2.5億那我看整個景點建設中期計畫每一年都會丟2.5億下去 |
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13022.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
13042.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
因為現在只編到2027年嘛看整個中程計畫從2027年下去還是要持續下去啦每一年丟2.5億我想我們在審交通部的預算的時候我們就必須要很負責任的問說丟了這麼多錢下去以後成效在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
13043.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
13067.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
第二個的重點是我們丟的錢有不少是拿來做公共建設當我們丟不少的錢下去做公共建設的時候它是不是會提升當地土地利用的價值?是嗎?那如果提升當地土地利用的價值那些地主不就是應該要回饋嗎?部長我有說錯嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
13072.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
13100.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
因為我們所有的國家風景區其實都會有做這樣子硬體的投資那範圍其實蠻廣啦範圍非常廣所以很難去講說哪邊的地主獲利了那哪邊的地主該做回饋部長你可能對這個計畫還不是很熟啦今天質詢跟以前一樣只是暖身先讓部長知道這件事情然後讓部長回去了解狀況因為你們所畫的每一個區塊的圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
13102.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
13115.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
我已經全部都調來看了我為什麼今天提這個質詢呢兩件事第一個大鵬灣的風景區如果能夠像賴清德總統所講的一樣成為夏威夷 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
13116.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
13145.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
我也樂觀其成只不過說政治人物喊口號很會而且這還是一個舊的口號以前人家已經喊過了那可能喊的人沒有當選總統沒有機會實現賴清德當選了總統希望他有機會實現但錢花下去能不能實現就是我們作為民意代表應該要監督的事項但是還有第二個部分我們國家花了那麼多錢去當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
13147.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
13172.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
大鵬灣那邊投資了非常多的公共建設在整個國家開發的計畫裡面只要納稅人有投資下去開發當地的建設導致那邊的地皮漲價的時候一定都有回饋的規定所以我拜讀啦從以前到現在的計畫來請部長仔細看之前 |
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13176.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
13201.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
要求的是開發強度暴增啊這不關你的事這個我會去質詢內政部但是跟交通部有關係的是什麼來看一下回饋本來是要求土地20%回饋金6%那個土地啊要用市價計算要用市價計算到現在變成什麼樣子我跟部長報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
13204.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
13225.166 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
從26%的回饋降低到15%而且這15%是用公告限值計算一個是市價26一個是15公告限值我只有個最根本的問題當初交通部誰點頭同意這個回饋降成這個樣子光硬體的建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
13227.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
13250.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
納稅人就花幾十億喔納稅人就花幾十億喔結果納稅人投入了幾十億開發了硬體建設以後當地的地主不是您講的招商要擴大什麼商業來投資商業來投資那是另外一回事嘛當地的地主需要回饋的從26%市價到15%公告限值 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
13256.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
13281.807 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
我請部長回去了解第一個這個事情是誰點頭同意的誰點頭同意的這個事情知識體大不是開玩笑的第二個部長你也可以回去了解一下這樣子回饋狂將獲利的是誰獲利的是誰是不是屏東當地的政治人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
13283.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
13289.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
哪一個政治人物在大鵬灣有這麼大的土地因為回饋狂價大賺一筆啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
13293.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
13315.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
這不是圖例啊什麼是圖例兩個問題我今天質詢給部長回去了解我們下一次在這邊質詢的時候再進入深水區但請部長一個禮拜書面先回覆我這個回饋狂降是誰做的決策可以嗎好這個沒有問題好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝黃國昌委員接下來邀請麥玉珍委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
13331.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
13337.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
謝謝主席。有請交通部的部長。請陳部長。好,部長好。 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
13350.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
13361.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
要請教一下我們在1、1、2年我們編列了56億我們訂的旅客就是600萬人但是呢達超過650萬人這多少人額外啦但是在1、1、3年總預算是51億 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
13373.357 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
13391.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
但是呢我們今年才進來的649萬人所以我們還沒有達到目標就是1000萬人所以這樣子的預算我們是不是要退回去給我們的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
13392.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
13410.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
因為沒有達標嘛是不是要退回去但是呢在我們在今年我們看到的預算呢就沒有達到我們的目標但是今年的預算有55億所以我們的目標是1186萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
13414.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
13433.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
所以這樣子的目標今年沒有達到明年你要編列這個增加的預算又說有這樣子增加的目標但是我沒有看到你的計畫跟策略完全沒有看到所以你增加的預算你沒有達到你幫我回答一下你明年想要達到的你的規劃是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
13436.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
13456.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
報告委員我們目前其實觀光署一直都在做規劃的內容對於未來的整體的觀光的計畫其實一直持續都在做不是沒有做一直持續都在做那今年沒有達標有很多的因素當然也有天災的因素還有一些或許做得不夠完善的因素都有那這個部分我們也會做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
13457.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
13473.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
那在明年的部分我們會提出一個新的計畫如何從國際上面來引課來攬課那最重要的其實是臺灣要有新的亮點我們現在正在盤點新的亮點不要多我們聚焦在幾個新的亮點然後搭配我們的整個規劃的宣傳工具要做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
13477.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
13479.434 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
委員我剛剛講的內容做得不夠完善的部分我剛剛講的內容做得不夠完善的部分我剛剛講的內容做得不夠完善的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
13494.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
13508.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
還有說很多的規劃但是有沒有達成多少的目標因為現在已經還有幾個月而已對不對所以說我們要改進的地方或者是明年要怎麼樣要對啊還有是說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
13513.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
13533.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
禁團令,大家都很關注嘛,禁團令是因為我們對我們的對岸,我們是兩國,我是講兩國啦,但是你們不敢講兩國,兩岸啦,兩岸之間的關係,對不對,但是對我來說就是國家啦,我自己是認為這樣子啦。 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
13534.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
13537.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
因為每一個人都有每一個人的主人嘛所以我希望說我們要怎麼樣除了禁團令沒有解除以外我們沒有其他國家可以去開放光光了嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
13548.809 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
13565.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
報告委員對啊我們就說像我們在台中有四處要飛越南對不對所以說我們都沒有我們全世界有197的國家我們日本還有就是其他東南亞的國家你的預計有沒有達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
13567.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
13570.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
除了就是我們不要說一直弄扁,弄扁也弄到破頭也疊疊弄,這樣有沒有好?我們要有不同的國家去開放規劃我們的觀光。但是我們要開發之前我們要檢視我們的國家是不是哪一個值得別人來的。 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
13587.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
13588.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
13610.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
13611.204 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
13638.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
13639.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
13656.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
13664.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
理由的部分所以我希望你要拿出一個正確的明確的一個規劃今年的哪裡沒有做到的我們要去改善要增加誰能去預算明年的不能說就預算明年你要說你要達到多少但是今年做不好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
13675.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
13678.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
adequate to the current situation. |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
13678.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
13683.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
If we don't have any plan, how can we give you the next year's fees? |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
13683.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
13686.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
對不對所以我們是不是要凍結還是刪減呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
13686.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
13702.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
這個真的是我們覺得不必要說只是應對啦。我們希望的實質實際到現在看到大家的感覺啦。不能是就是高高在上看在上面,沒有上面的底層。 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
13703.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
13704.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
接下來邀請李坤哲委員發言。 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
13737.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
13747.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
13750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
13752.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
13771.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
13782.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
這樣的一個微型電動二輪車的數量是有明顯的差距的業者號稱大概是在45萬輛左右那落差大概是20至25萬輛那其實有一個問題現在交通部統計在11月20號的統計完成掛牌登記的大概是有18萬輛左右那新車領牌的大概有5萬輛左右總計是24萬輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
13799.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
13816.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
二十四萬輛跟業者所說的大概有四十五萬輛的微型電動二輪車這個落差差到了二十至二十五萬輛那為什麼會有這個落差來局長說明一下因為那個微型電動二輪車以前是電動自行車其實它的使用壽命 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
13817.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
13826.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
13838.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
13866.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
那我們現在來看經管會的統計就是說有效投保的大概是在這個強制限大概是18萬件左右18萬件左右那這個18萬件跟我們相關公路局的這個24萬輛還是有一定的差距的那當然這個投保保險公司還是有一定的審核過程那我現在要請教部長說你有沒有掌握這樣的一個落差的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
13867.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
13874.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
報告委員目前我們看到投保的數字是23萬不過這個最後的數字實際上為投保的微型電動二輪車現在有幾輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
13877.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
13904.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
根委員報告其實要掛牌一定要投保只是說因為現在就是說投保的那個數字是現在有在投保那掛牌的數字有些掛牌了以後就是他提早掛牌以後他不用了所以不用以後他沒有再繼續投你現在說有些未掛牌因為他未使用或者是已經過期了這就是我們接下來要討論未掛牌但是他仍然繼續使用超出了使用年限就成為安全的隱憂啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
13905.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
13922.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
那2022年的11月29號推動奧輪車啊電動奧輪車掛牌到現在已經滿兩年了那微型電動奧輪車的使用期限一般都大概在五年啊剛才局長也提到電池的使用期限大概是兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
13924.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
13939.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
我們必須來看為掛牌超出使用年限消防署有去統計微型電動二輪車的起火自災2021年開始逐年的增加2021年43件、2022年58件、2023年65件、2024年1到9月已經53件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
13946.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
13965.713 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
局長跟部長特別要注意電品起火原因電品47%充電系統20.3%絕緣破損12.9%電池或者是老化相關造成的起火因素佔了80%以上起火自災是逐年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
13966.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
13979.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
那沒有掛牌就會有因為出廠的時間以及相關規格的問題它其實是有安全的隱憂那交通部部長你要說明一下我們如何去加強要推動掛牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
13981.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
13984.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
還有若死掛牌的管理來說明一下。 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
14011.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
14014.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
14034.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
14044.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
微型電動二輪車的這樣的一個事故跟傷亡的件數也是逐年的增加在上面的資料其實都很清楚2021年是8198件那2022年是8499件2023年已經升到9025件 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
14054.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
14069.327 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
受傷人數也是逐年增加,那主要的原因到底是什麼?局長你有清楚嗎?因為大概就是說這個使用的這個量也是就是一直持續在增加。量逐漸增加,那你要怎麼去管理? |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
14070.167 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
14088.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
現在就是說大概就是因為目前已經納管了所以納管以後就是沒有就是說沒辦法領牌的那個很多其實是拼裝或改造的那拼裝改造這個部分的話其實現在從這一個11月這個11月底之後的話其實在路面上我們看到的其實都要就是說做處罰或沒入 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
14089.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
14118.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
這個都必須要加強的相關的督促跟管理部長跟局長尤其是局長你都很清楚我們現在有電力的輔助自行車跟機車已經差不多了微型電動二輪車還有電動機車還有普通的輕型的電動機車還有大型的重型機車跟普通的大型的普通的重型機車 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
14120.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
14145.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
現在自行車跟機車的分類其實也越來越多元我特別要提醒部長我們台灣對於行人的安全做得很不好現在交通部在加強相關的這個改善跟管理特別重要我們一年三千不幸的交通意外事故喪失生命的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
14148.046 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
14157.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
14176.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
14194.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
那我們的機車也有這種普通的機車也有電動的機車也有輕型的電動機車這個都必須要去加強管理來部長您說明一下對報告委員確實您剛剛所提醒的包含這個事故的部分我們應該要加強管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
14194.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
14205.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
14222.691 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
14238.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
董事長,因為鐵道的運輸安全你要負最重要的一個責任也是部長很重要的一個課題那我們看到11月2號台鐵452次、UNU3000型速零開往台東的新自強號 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
14239.352 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
14255.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
那原定他在海端站與401次的列車要交會那列車員看到預告號之機顯示注意而且要立即減速但是列車顯示滑走的一個警告雖然有顯示這個警示但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
14256.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
14258.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
14279.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
14285.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
越過了這個出發的耗資機大概1500公尺左右那總滑行的距離長達2214公尺這個問題啊來局長你有掌握嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
14292.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
14319.691 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
有這個是我們在11月1號我們康瑞颱風過後因為那個花東縣他受到颱風清洗以後他的軌道的軌面有非常多的落葉樹枝泥水沒錯就是因為颱風風強雨急造成樹葉雜草雜物然後覆蓋在這個鐵道上面那造成了這個軌道的摩擦力就不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
14321.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
14348.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
其實董事長您應該清楚,它的這個路段的坡度大概是千分之九點九而已。其實我們在做一些煞車的緊急的台鐵的相關的管理規範,在千分之二時也必須要有有效的一個煞車。因為以前我們在做緩滑的這些處理的時候,在做測驗的時候,甚至在軌道上面是潑灑肥皂水。 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
14349.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
14350.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
bicyC. |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
14350.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
14372.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
你看,我們為了搶行通車啊,這是颱風過後嘛。這個部長我特別要提醒你。跟董事長,你們負有交通運輸的重要工作。雖然在颱風期間希望趕快將鐵路啊,來搶通。但是安全是最重要的啊。包括搶救人員的安全的一個保障。第二, |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
14373.908 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
14380.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
14386.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
14389.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
andır.一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
14406.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
14428.529 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
另外對於鬼滅附屬義務還沒有完成清洗之前明定該區域必須要降速那颱風後路線巡查及防止列車滑走的一個措施都要增加在SNS風險危害因此管控及預防修正的相關規章 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
14430.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
14430.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
接下來邀請吳宗憲委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
14459.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
14478.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
麻煩部長請陳部長部長午安部長我覺得是要提一個東西就是有關宜蘭鐵路高架化的部分因為我覺得中央還是欠宜蘭的一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
14479.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
14502.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
因為之前其實在1993年的時候宜蘭就一直在爭取希望說鐵路能夠高架因為我們都知道像以台北市我小時候台北市有鐵路會走那這時候城市的使用會被割裂掉那自從台北市的鐵路地下化之後其實很多地方它就等於是縫合了就可以一連貫的使用所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
14503.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
14503.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
兩、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
14515.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
14519.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
14544.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
14544.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
預算案附屬單 |
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14549.834 |
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14574.042 |
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雖然說之前有人說可以把它降到53.87億但是這個是為了某些特定因素那後來也沒有後續那蔡英文之前在某一次也曾經提過說會做一些補助但是後來也不了了之所以我想請問一下這個宜蘭鐵路高價化這有沒有辦法得到中央的全額的補助 |
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報告委員我們其實跟每一個縣市之間的這個預算跟補助金額的分配其實都有一定的公式跟機制啦那不管是哪一個縣市其實那個機制都是一樣的那我知道有些地方他的財政狀況比較沒有那麼好我們在那個機制裡面其實也有把這個財政的狀況放進去這個也都會討論那另外就是說 |
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14619.285 |
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如果委員要特別提出這個的話其實在行政院他可以做一個專案協商的動作那到時候可能要請地方政府來提出來然後請行政院這邊來做專案協商部長你在10月16號有跟黃國昌說這可以做專案協調啦那一段我有看到是這個部分是要到行政院去做專案協商專案協調 |
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14620.946 |
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14645.166 |
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可是部長你是從台中來的嘛那你也很清楚啊之前台中的台中都會區鐵路高架捷運化計畫其實他是由中央全部補助欸那為什麼台中可以那其他地方不行那你一定很清楚嘛你在台中當時有他的歷史背景因為當時答應台中的是地下化那地下化因為經費非常的龐大所以後來改高架化 |
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14645.706 |
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14673.981 |
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那因為地下化改高價化的過程當中中央負擔的金額其實是差不多的但結論就是讓地方就不需要去負擔所以那個計畫是有變更過是從地下化改成高價化但是我覺得這個在其他縣市來看就覺得說你中央執政跟台中市是同一個政黨那你就全額補助那其他地方跟中央不同政黨就一拖再拖那個時間是胡志強市長擔任市長的過程當中所以跟政黨沒有關係 |
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可是地方看到的就是臺中他就是全額嘛那為什麼地方上面你還要他那麼多的自己要自籌呢?報告委員我剛有解釋過那個歷史背景本來是從地下改成這個高價那那個經費是有減省但是當時跟臺中市政府的協商就是因為要改高價所以跟地方政府協商說那是不是中央原本出的錢不會比較多反而比較少那由中央來全額負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
14705.419 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
14707.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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14724.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
14739.771 |
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民進黨籍的候選人沒選上就不了了之了到現在也都沒有任何的下文那這樣你剛剛講的嘛台中因為從地下鐵路地下化那變成高架所以不需要他再由地方負擔那蔡英文又說 |
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14740.632 |
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14744.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
adequate to the total total total total total total total |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
14761.609 |
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14780.845 |
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應該有超過300億,所以這個部分是有做到,不是沒有做到。不知道,我們看就沒看到,現在什麼都沒有看到。不會沒有看到。我們還是要看到結論吧,結論要出來。總經費是501億,我們目前正在審,地方大概負擔105億,那也就是說中央負擔差不多三、四百億左右。 |
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14785.311 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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14799.625 |
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14825.422 |
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你支持嗎?就是說我們專案協商然後盡量給宜蘭更多的幫助。我們交通部都會協助。交通部都會協助大家。好,那就等部長這一句話了啦。那也是麻煩部長說不要讓宜蘭的人或是其大家覺得說為什麼中央跟對各地的發展其實是大小眼。我以前在新北市我就很有感覺啦。就在新北市不工作的時候我覺得中央對於地方的發展的 |
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的是有大小眼存在。這是我自己個人的主觀判斷。謝謝部長。謝謝委員。好,謝謝吳宗憲委員。接下來邀請楊瓊英委員。謝謝主席。楊瓊英,邀請部長。請陳部長。 |
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14861.814 |
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14888.681 |
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部長,我們在上個月,我們有很詳細的討論,也說臺中的這個舊山線,你也非常的支持。那我們已經promise好,我們要去看臺中的舊山線,還有臺中的這個捷運紅線,從德到豐原這一段。但是我已經等你兩個月囉,什麼時候呢? |
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14894.622 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
14912.352 |
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14934.769 |
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我還沒得到你的答案耶。最近都在立法院繁忙,然後還有各領委訪問。怎麼樣繁忙,那你總是要給一個時間吧。我請我辦公室在這邊。我已經等兩個月。在這邊沒辦法跟委員確定時間。你沒有辦法確認沒關係,但是也不能等兩個月啊。好好,我們趕快來約時間。要不要改進。好,改進。要不要趕快約時間。我請辦公室趕快跟委員辦公室來。要不要趕快約時間。我覺得,我們都來自台中。 |
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14940.213 |
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| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
14959.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
14969.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
接下來我們來討論臺中市我們在後里區跟豐原區你看看這個圖以臺13線後峰大橋就是後里跟豐原地區他就以臺13線後峰大橋來作為連接線連接點 |
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那豐原區跟東勢以台三線、豐思路來作為這個連結交通流量相當的大尤其我們努力了17年終於原台中線的國道4號那麼這個國勢的高速公路全線統車哇這個是地方的福音但是也造成了南端台十三線山峰路跟國峰路口北端就是台三線豐思路 |
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15006.201 |
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15017.93 |
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我們現在下去還要再轉上來走一段風勢路然後再轉上來因為還有一段媒介那因此在鄰近區又有後風的交流道跟風勢的交流道 |
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那我們為了要讓行車能夠更加的順暢在以人為本人本交通這個概念應該是交通部的概念吧?人本交通以人為本我們要營造一個什麼呢?營造一個安全、友善、可靠、舒適、健康的永續交通環境為前提嘛對不對?是不是?是!所以呢在一塞或者是入口的安全 |
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15047.284 |
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15062.996 |
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你們交通部、公路局應該有相關的改善企劃吧。現在,保證,你現在如果回到我們那裡,我知道你很怕回到,你要下去等五個紅綠燈,還等不下去。 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
15064.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
15069.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
15088.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
15111.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
所以擁捨得非常嚴重所以我在這邊也具體我相信你非常了解我們的家鄉具體來建議應該要將這個易塞跟路口安全你光光在那個斜坡要等了五個紅綠燈還等不過在這樣的一個情況之下應該要立即辦理可行性評估的規劃對不對 |
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15113.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
15121.428 |
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報告委員確實這個需要來改善那不過有些路段是跟地方政府有關係尤其是紅綠燈的部分但沒有關係這不是紅綠燈的問題本期告訴你這是公路體系台十三線跟我們的台三線 |
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這是在我們的公路體系所以因此本期只有希望我們既然已經都在走了但是走一段時間非常的擁捨所以本期具體希望以人為本人本交通公路局應該要去趕快 |
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繼續來做可行性評估規劃那麼來改善我們整個台13線我們的三豐路跟國豐路口以及台3線東勢路段的擁捨問題東勢的這個風勢路這個部分我們由這個公路局來做可行性評估趕快做 |
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| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
15166.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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15186.157 |
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15199.212 |
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短期的部分就是說立即性可以處理的我想我們來評估那因為評估的話有些是要委外嘛所以就是說對委外的部分我們來啟動就是說一些相關的委外的作業好非常感謝那部長因為這個經費沒有幾百萬但是這個可以畫龍點金 |
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15205.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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15245.023 |
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這十幾年來我們將整個在一百年的臺中縣市合併之後的直轄市整個的交通網串聯成功這是一個偉大的工程啊但是我不希望差了這麼一點點所以我非常的感謝部長你來支持這個預算公路局也立即啟動我非常的希望我們在這個畫龍點睛把它做好這才是一個真正的暢通的以人為本的這個交通 |
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非常重要。那我們就立即啟動。謝謝。好,謝謝委員。好,謝謝楊瓊英委員。接下來邀請圖全吉委員。好,謝謝主委。 |
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15270.612 |
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15270.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
陳部長、陳局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
15283.032 |
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15297.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
市長你好,在10月初總諮詢的時候,那時候本席有諮詢過我們陳部長,針對陽梅深深路延伸到中山南路台一線的省改計畫。那個時候這一筆經費,那時候已經本來確定,後來因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
15300.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
15326.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
那個時候因為疫情的關係地方政府徵收土地的時程有被耽擱那時候也感謝我們部長還有公路局說同意把這筆經費匡列在113年到118年的審改計畫裡面那可是這部分現在我們一直還沒有看到正式的公文書面委員這個部分我是不是請公路局長跟你 |
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15327.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
15353.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
也跟委員報告就是說原來因為他這條路他有分這個幾期的一個工程所以在二期的一個工程的話其實已經完成那現在大概就是三期的部分因為三期他大概有一些就是這個用地還沒有取得所以也在做相關的設計不過因為他本來是在審改他審改的計畫到這一個上一期的是到今年 |
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下一期是從114年我想就是說他三期的這個工程他需要做一些檢討調整那是不是再提報到我們下一期這個114年的這個審改計畫 |
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15384.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
可是那時候不是說經費的時候直接幫我們匡列進去嗎?因為他其實因為他沒有就是說他沒有繼續發包對阿所以二期的部分已經完成了那基本上就是說因為我們在他繼續做一些調整的話我們就列入下一期的計畫 |
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15386.038 |
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15408.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
那等於還要重新送重新爭取嗎?報告委員報告委員這個不是重新爭取啦這原本就一二期都做了所以第三期我們當然也會支持不過因為他之前的那個該發包也沒發包也沒有做那所以請他在114年的時候再提出來這個部分我們還是會委員會我們來協助他只是因為他有一些調整 |
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| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
15428.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
所以他就是說調整的部分比如說包括他調整的一些工程內容還有經費上面是不是要做一些調整是不是我們來協助他們就是說因為要做一些審議好那經費的部分還是跟我們支持啊對對對因為這已經做到後半段他這一段做上去才能連接到我們台一線所以他就是114年的這個計畫等我們的計畫114到118年的計畫過了之後那請他們來提出申請 |
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15433.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
15462.976 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
那就請協助啦那這經費部長跟局長這邊還是要幫忙支持那也針對這個我們省道快速公路改善計畫因為我看了一下我們針對省改計畫裡面有針對快速公路的先期規劃這包含了可行性評估還有綜合規劃那我們省改計畫的目的當然也是評估路網的貫通的必要性還有提升整體快速公路往 |
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| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
15490.029 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
的運作效率以及我們建構完善的省道快速公路網提高快速公路系統還有連結性的問題那這一方面我們後來桃園市政府也為了希望能夠建構完整的快速公路網把這個路網能夠建構完善所以提出了五橫五縱的快速公路那這一部分 |
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15491.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
15512.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
後來有提出城中、環西跟陶北的快速公路那因為這三條快速公路都有連接到我們台66、台65還有台1線那這一部分是不是可以請部長、局長這一部分來支持市府來建構這完整的快速公路網 |
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15513.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
15530.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
包括委員您也有提出來說由市府來建構齁因為其實都市內的快速路網快速道路的部分是由市政府來負責的那所以這個部分可能要桃園市政府他們來來處理會比較好那如果快速公路的部分不是公路局來做嗎因為齁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審 |
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桃園市因為也是市區內的快速道路的連結所以基本上就是說是由市府他們自己市府這邊做一些規劃那當然就是說未來經費上面如果有需要的話包括這一個可能是跟內政部國土署可能看看是不是能夠爭取 |
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那這部分這樣啦我覺得還是還是找我們地方交通局來跟公路局我們大家再來協調一下看怎麼來協助這個城西、城中、環西、陶北快速公路因為這個建構網建置完善可以完整的針對我們中央國發會現在陶竹苗大溪谷計畫對這個 |
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推動方案也有很大的注意因為這個建構完整的路網我覺得對於我們中央這個計畫有非常大的幫助所以我想說是不是交通局跟我們公路局我們來開個協調會看怎麼樣的協助把這個路網能夠建置完善來解決地方財政的問題好那請部長跟局長也多幫忙我們跟他們一起來協調一起來討論 |
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好那我們是不是我們第三期的審改道路計畫這經費是不是還沒有確定啊第三期的部分還沒有核定還沒有核定嗎114年到118年還沒有核定好那這部分因為地方有很大的需求在這邊也先跟部長局長來請託一下針對我們陽梅秀財路178巷他這個之前是有道路可是 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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我們會請市府盡快提出這計畫那也希望到時候部長局長針對這審改計畫也給我們大力支持好不好好他們來提出來啦我們公路局來審查好不好希望這幾個計畫到時候我們一併來討論來協助地方好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝圖君及委員好接下來邀請葉元之委員發言 |
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麻煩請交通部長謝謝請陳部長 |
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委員會議員 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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推廣觀光的費用它分兩種啦一種是實體的活動加上跟大陸網紅合作113年是編了614萬那114年就明年啦成長喔成長到659萬換句話說我們對於大陸宣傳觀光的預算是越來越提高可是路客就沒辦法來啊報告委員這部分是包含港澳 |
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15821.945 |
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所以他們的宣傳重點應該是放在港澳沒有沒有沒有我講的是這個北京辦公北京辦事處跟上海辦事處那上海又包括福州所以我覺得不忍去了解一下因為今天沒有觀光署來我也不為難你但是我覺得政策方向要定定清楚因為大家都 |
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大家都很清楚知道台灣現在實際上觀光逆差最新的數據是已經到7380億了以前我們大家都會以台灣的觀光為榮嘛我們希望全世界國家不分哪裡地區都希望能夠來那貿易逆差就是觀光逆差對於全民都有影響對全民都是會有影響那第二個當然首當其衝的是我們的旅遊業嘛我們的旅遊業大概 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審 |
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因為這個是﹖ |
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這有因果關係啦。因為我相信您應該也有見到很多旅行業的業者嗎?他們應該跟您講陸客現在為什麼大陸沒有開放主要是因為禁團令的關係嗎?我們之前有一段時間有開放禁團令那也允許很多的團客過去到目前為止沒有那個時候的狀況跟現在不太一樣那個時候有開放但中國那邊也是沒有開放但現在根據旅行業者他們跟對岸溝通的結果 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單一、審 |
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到對岸去旅遊的可能超過200萬人。那我們之前得到的數據他們來的可能還沒有到20幾萬人。所以比例上是差非常非常多的。這個我覺得不能完全用貿易這樣子來看。我不是說貿易,我只是說至少人數這樣。因為你只有開放,因為他們人比較多嘛。你只要一開放他們願意來。現在是我們去的比較多,他們來的比較少。那是因為他不來啊。我現在就在跟你討論怎麼樣讓他來嘛。我們在自由行的部分大家都可以去啊。 |
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但是如果說競團令開放之後他會更多人來那我們很多觀光的問題可以解決我現在跟你討論的是後段的問題不是在跟你講前段嘛所以我是問說到底你如果要開放競團令你的條件是什麼?開放的競團令是送我們的旅客過去的我是希望對岸可以解開他的競團令好那我覺得這就無解了這個又是一個雞生蛋蛋生雞的問題嘛所以 |
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所以等於部長你就寧可做事就是我們有觀光逆差然後寧可讓這些旅行業者哭哈哈然後甚至於其實你也禁團利其實也影響到我們的旅客因為其實中國大陸我們蠻多人有很多旅客覺得禁嘛然後語言又通嘛很願意去但是有些長輩他們不會自由行啊他不像很多年前他們自己訂機票幹嘛或到當地會有報告委員到現在都還有團客在過去 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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16078.744 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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否則這個事情真的是沒完沒了,其實受害是整個台灣。我們希望觀光可以少一點政治因素。對,好,謝謝。謝謝委員。好,謝謝葉元之委員。好,那陳世凱部長在下午有重要的行程,那我們一點讓我們的部長離開,那接下來請那個陳彥博次長來代理。 |
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一點,因為他有重要行程。謝謝。我們接下來邀請武力華委員質詢。有同意他請假了,謝謝。好,謝謝主席。那我有請交通部次長。好,請陳彥博次長。以及我們的公路局。 |
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陳局長陳局長 謝謝委員好次長好 局長好11月24前幾天我有一同參與新威大橋到離港交流道的凍土典禮工程那為什麼我要去因為就如同卓院長那天說的他說這一條除了是救命的道路也是產業發展之路 |
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對平東大山地門地區對高雄的茂林區對桃園區其實這一條路很重要因為它除了救災防災也有救護的功能也有農產品運輸的功能更有觀光的一個功能所以呢對我們來講 |
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除了能夠減少到市區或者是新左營高鐵站的一個距離時間大概是可以減少半小時左右所以這是對我們來講是很令人振奮的一件事情但是呢我今天來也要跟各位透露一個訊息可能是你們不知道的訊息他請我一定要來表達當年 |
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2001年茂林鄉的鄉長張振信他在茂林的鄉刊他特別已經有把這樣的事情在23年前就已經透露出來當時他希望南二高的旗山支線能夠沿著老農溪一直開到當時成立的茂林風景區 |
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adequates the following requirements to implement in the next 23 years. |
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那這一個工程我們看到要分兩期但是它的總長是18公里總經費當時是匡147.9億但是因為缺工原物料上漲現在是把它編列到202億預計在2030年完工那在這個當中我要講另外一件事因為還記得嗎2021年的時候 |
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也不是颱風只不過是西南氣流的影響連日的暴雨結果造成明巴克路橋的一個災害當時呢這幾年有很多的民代包括當天桃園區的一個議員叫高中的議員他也非常關心他親自前往因為這幾年不論是杜司委區長或者高清源主席地方所有的民代 |
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他們都主張是不是可以從明巴克路橋的那個地區施作高架的道路到復興部落建立一個穩固長期不會因為下雨颱風就被阻斷的道路所以呢我想要請大家就是看一下齁 |
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bicyclist 高架橋市長 |
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那麼像這樣的一條道路我就是想問光是從103年到113年這十年間這個情何到復興路段請教一下大概花了多少錢 |
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因為它大概就是有一些是災害搶修的費用然後目前就是說我們還有就是要做中期的這個提升所以它有大概有好幾塊那災害搶修的部分這幾年其實大概就是我們這個有一些變道或者是像這一個跨預稅溪的這個明霸客路橋 |
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大概就是說這個每一次大概都是有把它修完,大概10億左右,不過目前其實我們現在已經有一個中期的一個跨預稅系的這個民放科學獎提升的一個計畫,變道也有一個提升的計畫。謝謝局長,因為這個路段大概是5公里, |
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從新威到市區總長18公里,平均每公里8億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11億元物料上漲後每公里11 |
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獎項目獎項目獎項目獎 |
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這樣子延老農稀施作可以減少徵收可以遠離商奔地滑然後呢你們採取的工法呢是採深基礎用築銷的工法加大橋樑的垮具好那種種這些大家都覺得可行性很高然後呢也要做了已經凍土了所以我想要問就是如果我們講的那5K路段有沒有可能比照這樣的一個態度工法有沒有可能 |
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目前已經通車了,沿著河床的便道在做只是因為老榮溪河川調查還是不穩定所以目前的計畫是中期提升計畫中期提升計畫包括跨預稅溪的橋樑要提高 |
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bicyc,您剛剛一直提, |
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我們經常走都很了解那麼長的好幾K竟然我們的路面跟河床都齊高了 |
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那如果說我們不去提升提高或者做這種高價道路我不曉得未來的10年20年我們到底要砸多少錢重點是一直在修復永遠在修復居民永遠都是交通不便這不是我們樂見的那個地方也不要去想遷村也沒有地方可以遷村大家也不會願意遷村所以我覺得怎麼樣去做一個永續 |
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安全的道路就像沿著老龍溪做這件事我們多麼羨慕多麼渴望我希望把這件事情把它放在心裡那我覺得跟居民的溝通讓大家看見我們的想法我們沒有忘記在地居民的想法但是我們要讓大家知道我們要怎麼規劃怎麼做然後達成符合他們需求這樣可以嗎 |
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兩件事情就是說剛才講的一個道路總是要永久性其實就是有很多的條件要去成就它所以目前因為在這個地方是一個災損的地區所以我們會有剛才局長特別提到是有一個中期的一個規劃 |
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那中期的規劃裡頭一定會考量到這個民意大家的需求所以看你這張圖的這個最後是下去的到達巴士努安橋據我的了解他到時候會跨過會往前延伸所以整整的也就是你剛剛講高價的一個想法會在這裡頭做實現對一定要永久性的橋樑高價的橋樑對只是你講永久性的橋樑可能還要再考量沒有什麼不可能你看我們提出的25年前的想法 |
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不就實現了嗎?但是我跟委員報告一個中期安全的橋樑我們一定會達到,我們一定會做到。好,那謝謝次長您上次幫我就是親自主持露營場的第4次會議那有幾項決議,刪除土石流潛水區類型剩餘90%的土地供無痕露營使用,原保地適用原住民圖管規則還有呢,我們露營場合法化,你們把預算 |
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本來是拿來輔導竟然上面有說要補助地方政府的違法稽查作業費。我想當年我們爭取那筆經費是輔導那像這一些我希望趕快修訂趕快頒布可以嗎?可以,我們會督促公文趕快發。好,謝謝市長,謝謝局長,謝謝主席。好,謝謝吳麗華委員接下來邀請洪孟凱委員發言 |
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主席謝謝,麻煩請次長以及我們...好,請陳次長桃園機場總經理跟中華郵政總經理好,請中華郵政總經理 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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出產法以及契約的相關規定在去年有延長休約那這個部分目前就是照這個合約來執行後續目前沒有任何其他的所謂再延長的這個是那相關的簽約廠商合約裡面有沒有獎懲祭典的機制有也有嗎是也跟委員報告我們已經把這一次的缺失亂象甚至趁 |
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要提出檢討改善報告同時祭典在今年的營運績效評估會把他納進來那同時間我們也檢討依照契約的規定因為他這一次的這個不當行為已經造成我們機場營運的影響會依照契約規定給予懲罰性的處罰所以不只是罰100萬 |
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現在我們看到媒體講說是罰100萬,但除了罰100萬以外還有相關的獎程,是不是?就是行政在履約上面的一個平和的部分,這個都會納入記錄。好,可是拉回來啊,陶基要檢討,彩蒙要檢討,但更重要的是為什麼這管制區有那麼多人啊? |
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我不知道次長你有沒有看到那一天的畫面我第一時間本席看到的時候那個媒體出來畫面我以為那是管制區外就管制區外大家講說反而大家遵守都還不錯管制區內反而亂糟糟然後甚至很多人都進去然後會讓大家網友就講說好像現在只有我沒有管制證了那管制證到底發多少張 |
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只會發到那一些進去裡面的人全都是有管制證嗎?還是有沒有那一天趁亂就是一個人帶一個進去?不會嘛。但管制證是不是太泛濫了?你說那個連彩蒙的經營團隊大家都有,他明顯他不是在裡面工作的人嘛,是不是? |
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報告委員我想當天在管制區內人會比較多是因為有來的單位有拿管制證全都進去了有來的單位比較多那有一些像比如說以我們機場公司本身我們當然有工作證那像免稅店的這些的工作同仁也有工作證 |
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對,所以我現在講的就是說管制區內其實亂是讓國人沒有辦法接受的因為照理講管制區內既然是管制區代表說它出入就已經有管制了你如果說今天反而是管制區外沒有問題因為大家拉紅龍大家都依照遵守而且媒體也是井然有序那反而管制區內是沒有任何的規範那甚至有人講說蕭副總統接機什麼時候決定 |
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校副總統接機什麼時候決定?這個部分因為我們機場這邊我們是配合做相對那什麼時候才告知不管是國安單位或是總統府什麼時候告知陶基說校副總統要來接機?這個可能我們要...不是你是總經理你不知道因為我知道副總統會來接機但是委員質疑說哪一天好那有沒有找陶基開過會?如果照你講你連他什麼時候來你都不知道所以他也沒有找陶基開過會? |
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動線要怎麼走也不知道我們相關的接機甚至是送機這些流程在機場我們有過去已經有一些模式存在當然有模式但是今年不不不總經理這個你的回答我沒有辦法接受喔因為這一次大家會看到這個亂象 |
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第一當然是這個彩蒙他們有狀況但第二蕭副總統他是元首級規格整個國安團隊進入到管制區我說實在話淘機的同仁有辦法去管國安單位嗎很難嘛 |
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proporting the President of the United States of America, President Trump, President Trump, President Trump, President Trump, President Trump, President Trump |
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所以就代表是說是不是蕭副總統他決定接機的時間也比較晚然後也沒有找淘擠開會所以變成是說當天的狀況國安單位也應該要負起相關責任包委員不是這樣因為所有高級長官來機場的相關活動一定會有國安特勤甚至行警等各單位我們跟機場公司這邊我們會來共同就他的一個場地的動線跟佈置 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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那事實上我想我必須承認就是說我們對於整個國人對於這整件事情的熱情真的是超過我們的想像當天來歡迎的人數不管是在管制區內或外其實都是有史以來的紀錄所以市長 |
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該不該檢討就針對這個部分如果說連剛剛總經理講的就是說管制區內的人就變是只要我有工作證工作證的核發其實是為了工作使用才能進管制區嘛可是當天是只要有工作證的人我就想要去看中華英雄我就拿工作證進去所以才發生說所有管制區工作證的人全都進來 |
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因為你剛講了嘛就是你超乎你的想像嘛所以未來針對重要的貴賓或者是我們相關的球員或者是我們的好手回來因為我相信啊之後WBC2026年我們中華隊也可以再創佳績啊那到時候不要又出現一樣的亂象啊 |
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委員今天早上一直以來部長都有則由這個淘機公司要去檢討其實他的檢討就包含這個如果是以街機的話街機整體的規劃跟最後的落實度管制的落實度我想這個是包在一起的是但是現在兩個部分一個是規劃有沒有規劃確實一個是落實淘機有沒有能力落實 |
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所以這一部分呢都是需要待後續的他的檢討裡頭。什麼時候檢討報告會出來?主委去討論。包委員剛才前面何委員何新淳委員已經我們有答應是三天要提出檢討報告。好,也請給本席及給我們交通委員會委員一份。那另外中華郵政的部分,抱歉喔趙委再給我一分鐘啦齁。 |
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中華郵政那個有講說12強這一次部長也已經講說會發行我們中華英雄的紀念郵票對不對非常好馬上就反映那請教現在規劃怎麼樣現在就是說我們在預計在12月底就今年年底的時候先發行一套個人化郵票那明年個人化對個人化不是郵票那但是那個紀念郵票要在明年的1月底因為這個要經過授權然後還要印刷等等 |
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但是就是會把我們中華英雄在這一次12強的這個榮耀給凸顯出來。對對對,就是針對這個事件。好,預計會發行幾套?發行一套四張。一套四張?對對對。是12月底會出來?不是,一月底。一月底會出來?那12月會出來什麼?那是個人化郵票大概一萬套,就是說可以這個不是郵票發行,是那個個人化郵票,這個一般人都可以要求可以印的。 |
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議員議員議員議員議員 |
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此外,因為有很多人的期待,也希望都是能夠看到我們中華英雄,所以特別現在郵票雖然說沒有那麼多人使用,但是我們希望既然已經有規劃就好好規劃,也一定是要彰顯我們這個台灣球員的這個光榮。 |
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那之前我有提雙程巴士在高速公路的一個通勤的狀況是不是請我們今天高工局的局長我就因為時間到了請局長事後跟本席辦公室來做個報告你們現在開會的進度怎麼樣好不好司長應該是路政司司長去做討論嘛那高工局這邊來協助配合嘛對不對 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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陳冠廷委員陳次長、陳局長 |
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市長好,市長我們前兩天我們嘉義縣大埔鄉的曾文水庫的光央這個遊艇的碼頭有辦理完工的啟用典禮那這個部分我們是非常的讚許因為這個無障礙碼頭的施工完工之後未來曾文水庫的藍色十里畫廊的優美景色就會成為我們整個祕境的首選那這邊做一個背景的分享我們嘉義縣整體山區的面積是整整超過五成 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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這個就2019年左右,縣府就已經有規劃來去拓寬那希望能夠來提升我們的觀光上面的質量那這個部分我們來先從162甲縣這邊來講一下這個部分因為部分的道路僅僅只有4.5公尺寬 |
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所以不管是匯車甚至是公路公共巴士都沒有辦法經過這一條路線來上山所以如果一旦可以拓寬那未來當然是可以減少觀光景點的這個交通的用色的情況所以這個部分據我了解本案是要今年要來去審 |
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但是現在還沒有聽到一些好消息是不是我來這邊是特地來轉達鄉親們的期待啦是不是請次長局長來催促一下來優先審定這個部分好不好 |
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這一部分我們會來請公路局來協助。因為這個路寬不足,甚至沒有辦法有剩餘的空間來匯車,我覺得是有非常大的疑慮。所以我是希望說盡快,好吧,盡快。這一部分我們來看怎麼樣來協助。謝謝。 |
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那這個部分我們講完之後我們第二個部分就是縣道166縣32K250到33K50這個部分結完取直的工程計畫那我想大家應該知道我們嘉義縣現在從農工大縣變成農工科技大縣經濟部有開發的幾個科學園區、產業園區所以我們包含在民雄工業園區、後吳工業區、頭橋工業區這些工業區、工業區、產業園區、科學園區全部都要完成之後未來的人員交通 |
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：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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這個行車動線可能不太理想會增加安全隱憂那尖峰時段的這個車輛的疏解是有點困難的所以我們希望這項計畫能夠列入公路局明年的生活圈道路補助計畫這樣可不可以早日完成來促進我們地方的繁榮 |
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我想跟委員報告一下原則上呢交通部或者是公路局來協助尤其是地方政府改善這種線相道的這一定是我們的一個基本的一個原則所以剛才委員特別提到這樣的162是不是可以納入那就麻煩請縣政府 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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機場的動線還有安全的核可。這個其實是跨局處。從國安局、國防部開始。還有我們一些基礎的建設。這個油水電、然後港口、道路。有什麼樣的人該在什麼樣的地方。什麼樣的人不該在什麼樣的地方。這其實對我國的國家安全非常重要。 |
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我記得之前有淘機的這個有未授權的工人然後好像是在減電然後導致之前停電的狀況這個是代表說我們的安全的合格人員的這個人流的控管確實還是存在一些問題所以我希望市長能夠未來因為這個是要跨部會整合的跟國安局也好國防部我們都要一起想調查局都要好都要想一想說什麼樣的人住在什麼樣的狀況 |
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預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案 |
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主席麻煩那個陳次長請陳次長委員好次長午安 |
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今天事實上是我們的預算詢答那我還是要再三強調這個會期裡面我有質詢的我覺得希望將不要按照我們大家要求的改革方向來改革不過今天有另外兩個我要來跟次長講說是不是可以加快腳步首先我們看到的是 |
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這次我請我們辦公室找的新聞就是你能不能回答圖片中的黃格是依據什麼樣的設置標準去畫色的? |
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17743.74 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
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bicyclone |
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bicyc,我如果事實上是一個民眾的話我是到22個國家嗎?不是吧?來看為什麼對這件事情在意?因為為什麼針對我們的標誌標線號誌設置的參考指引交通部說要115年才會完成可是問題是 |
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今年就已經有永續提升人行安全計劃就今年就開始執行了那到時候相關的申請補助案是不是陸續在進行當中那115年才會完成那地方政府依循的是什麼恐怕就會來不及因為為什麼這麼的擔心因為過去國土署就是這樣針對通學環境的改善的計劃執行也發現同樣的問題也就是說 |
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參考指引發布的時間比改善計畫晚所以結果就是改善沒有到位最後又花了一筆錢然後再把它調整回來那不是反而事實上是你為什麼不是指引先出來再讓地方政府依循否則你錢花下去到時候會不會又要 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案 |
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厲章為了要讓李明停車,直接把紅線劃掉了。最後交通大打劫之後,又讓用路人 |
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四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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大概兩到三億元的預算兩到三億我們就來看這幾年預算都年年有成長從112年的6300萬現在已經到1億350萬了的確項目都很好內容也很必要可是我剛剛提到的回到剛剛提的問題 |
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17949.825 |
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如果我們沒有跟基層做好社會溝通那哪天哪個里長想到什麼事情又去做這樣子的改變並不是一個好的狀況這邊我要再提醒那11月4號跟11月18號我都質詢過也就是你的駕照考訓制度改革的問題所以我要提醒交通部 |
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拜託一下不要再回答我樣板文章來我們看一下我主張一強化學習訓練結果你們呢已讀不回我再提醒之後給我回答代演繹主張二也是說後續演繹修法時程是什麼時候沒有那主張三一樣後續演繹修法 |
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所以得到答案就是這樣沒有一些具體的規劃這樣真的不行那回到樣板二就會看到是我問說三個月的等待期駕駛人沒有大車可訓練的話如何累積車輛特性及操控熟練度就回答我立法的理由是什麼一般人 |
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一般來講都不太可能有大顆車可以練習所以我們比較期待本來是說如何在這三個月累積車輛的特性操控的熟練度所以我們同仁去詢問公路局得到的答覆就是公訓所有相關的訓練課程可以提供但我們翻遍開課的所有項目似乎沒有這些課程我覺得到底是公路局搞不清楚狀況還是不願意面對現實所以麻煩市長這邊這都是我希望 |
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以後諮詢完得到的回覆要能夠真切改善問題否則我們諮詢就變成沒有意義然後也希望你們針對於我今天再提出來的要去做研擬相關的措施以上謝謝謝謝委員接下來邀請陳俊宇委員發言 |
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好,謝謝主席。我們有請次長跟公務局的陳局長。好,請陳局長。好,次長、局長、吳安。吳安。我想先請教次長,針對宜蘭目前在宋省的台62縣的部分,我們目前是進入可行性評估的期末報告當中。 |
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可是我看到我們整個這個相關的資料出來初估在可行性評估之後這個期程大概還要14年那其中包括綜合規劃及這個環境影響評估需要6年那環境影響評估審議過後這個設計及用地取得需要3年那整個供期還需要5年總共就要14年 |
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針對這個部分,次長我們有沒有辦法把握這個機會來檢討縮短相關的期程,有沒有辦法? |
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我想委員剛才提到那個期程大概是平常就是規劃的時候會是這樣規劃尤其是期程還沒有行政院還沒有核定等等的時候大概大體上他會這樣說明但是整體整個計劃核定了之後就會有比較詳細的而且比較嚴謹的一個期程的規劃 |
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另外剛才講到的綜合規劃也好或環境影響評估也好等等的稀釋也好他們是可以並行在設計的這是在設計階段還沒發包之前那如果發包之後其實可以依照發包的策略他其實是可以做一些調整來加速他的一個工程的進行所以這部分原則上我們會依照委員的一個意見在這個整個計畫核定之後來朝縮短工期的方式來做處理 |
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好謝謝次長因為時間看起來太冗長了啦太冗長了14年這個太離譜了看整個這個民眾觀感就認為說我們這個工程為什麼會拖這麼久所以我希望說一定要縮短期程啦看能不能就是 |
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在看幾年之內就能夠完成這部委員?是,我跟委員報告這個在交通部相關的工程計畫裡頭大概都有普遍這種現象但是在最後在交通部在最後審查或對外說明的時候大概或者是我大概會要求他們依照這方式把相關的期程做相關的一個處理。好另外那個依然縣政府有送那個TPAS的一個通勤月票的部分他目前 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審 |
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甚至這個他這個身份證還有同意書的認證一直在重複這些問題所以我希望說那時候建議就是希望能夠由我們交通部是不是來可以跟縣政府溝通看看來整合把這個宜蘭縣內的這個通勤月票跟北北基桃的公共運輸定期月票整合成一張有沒有辦法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
18253.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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包括台北到宜蘭這邊的國道客運跟台鐵然後之後進到台北都會區的話不過就是還是有相關的一個補助機制啦那因為他的一個整合性確實他變成說還要協調這個基北北桃因為他變成說他還有其他基北北桃的一些相關的每一種運具他都要做一些設施的一個沒有我還是拜託局長 |
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事長就是盡量來協調我再去了解一下看有什麼方式來協助因為產生這個許多民眾一直打電話在反映這個問題困擾許多的通行組我希望說由我們交通部來跟縣政府那邊來溝通這盡快處理那另外就是針對這個鐵路高架的部分鐵路的整個交通路網是提供給全國民眾通行一個便利性的使用那在 |
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18335.523 |
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現在看起來我們宜蘭縣的這個鐵路高架的部分應該順利的在這個期程裡面進行當中那我想請教就是針對這個配額款的部分我還是希望我們交通部能夠來重視這個問題因為你要讓工程能夠順利推動的話應該是要 |
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| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
讓縣政府有能力來負擔的一個配額款當然我也感謝我們交通部在經過檢討之後已經下修讓配額款再減少了那是不是有這個空間可以再檢討可以讓配額款再減少 |
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| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
這個議題我想部長也很關心所以他也特別提到就是說相關配合款地方的配合款如果說在地方真的有不同的一個需求的話可以在行政院所謂的專案的協調到時候在那裡專案協商的時候縣府把相關的這個所遇到的問題或他希望達成的一個目標想法提出來 |
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adequate to the executive committee's meeting, we will discuss this together. |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
18409.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
18434.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
這一部分我們鐵道局正在審查那我想我們再來瞭解一下看鐵道局因為沒有這個市長我跟您報告一下10月22號我在這個行政院總諮詢的時候曾經問過那也希望就是在年底能夠來終歸完成那當時是有沒有辦法 |
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18437.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
18467.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
呃呃呃呃呃呃呃呃呃呃呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
18469.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
18471.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
接下來邀請陳雪山委員發言主席就請次長好請陳彥博次長次長部長今天有重要事嗎我的了解部長很想要參加一個招商的一個記者會他不知道今天交通委員會開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
18501.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
18528.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
請假到立法院來他知道嗎?應該是知道那可以中途去請假那委員要問的事情你能夠完全代表他回答得出來嗎?部長請假他有依照相關的程序來申請那所以委員該特別依照就是說以後我是希望你們這些部長級的我們立法院難得跟你們碰個面我也不會去騷擾你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
18558.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
開會的時候你們就來嘛不要又什麼花樣啊又請假又幹什麼的你們幕僚人要注意一下嘛今天立法院開會你們把這行程就要把它調好嘛對不對那你剛才十點鐘嗎部長有什麼行程也去好了那我們來這裡幹什麼是不是你影響到我的執行權我問你的為啥你能夠回答我嗎我如果要執行你的話你有些問題部長要回答你回答不出來怎麼辦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
18586.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
你浪費我們時間嘛,你懂了沒有?我說跟召委報告,我們以後注意一下這方面的事情。對每個委員大家都尊重,我不是說去責難你,因為我當召委的時候,我也常常準價。我也常常準價。陳委員,部長他有事先請假,我也同意他請假。我們在今天的出席名單上面就已經有備註了。我尊重你,不然我就鬧長了剛才,對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
18589.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
18617.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
市長我告訴你,我要問部長什麼問題?我要問他去馬阿祖這次考察的感想,因為他第一次去。有什麼感想沒有?飛機降落的時候,顯像環生,那個側風,是不是?然後回去的時候,回程要坐飛機沒辦法坐,要渡海到北竿去。到北竿上飛機,在海上又非常的顛簸,他快吐了。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
18636.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
所以這些中央長官我最好風浪越大氣候越壞我希望他們去考察我下次安排一個氣候颱風快來的時候安排你們去考察讓你們感受一下離島居民是什麼你請下去好不好,我請那個趙偉晴公路總局下次我質詢不那麼客氣了齁你們看我好好先生嘛是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
18649.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
18663.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
我對你們交通部很好欸,你要我發脾氣嗎?你把我搞火了我跟你講,我以後對你們不客氣,我砍預算照砍啊。如果有刪過你們一毛錢嗎?局長我問你喔,行政院秘書長6月13號發了一個函,講有關北竿大橋的事情。 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
18669.434 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
18688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
我到最近我才知道。去年的。還是去年。對,去年6月13。去年的東西你們可以直接放在那邊睡覺。欸沒有沒有沒有。他的正本沒有發給,也沒發給我,也沒發給林鄉縣政府。不停地打圈圈,下情無法上達嘛,對不對。蔡總統答應我們的欸,做大橋。賴總統當行政院長的時候答應我們做大橋。 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
18695.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
18718.975 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
你們底下公路總局不敢問,交通部長不敢問,然後扯到國發會。國發會又花了五、六百萬拿到英國去做工程技術上難度的認定,人家說技術沒問題啊,是不是?技術沒有問題啊,還有什麼問題?前面蘇貞燦院長講經費上沒問題啊,這什麼態度啊?這什麼態度啊? |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
18725.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
18751.688 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
不是我們在騙人,是你們在騙人耶!你知道嗎?局長我不一定講你喔!你的上頭都在騙!一個騙字啊!可以這樣騙嗎?去年6月13號的公文到現在,搞到現在,不但騙我,騙你縣政府耶!公文不停的來來去去來來去去,搞了六七年了!你蓋還是不蓋嘛?講清楚嘛! |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
18752.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
18754.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
你不蓋了嗎?我就講總統講的話放屁!院長講的話也是放屁!可以這樣搞嗎?這是中央政府啊!是不是?然後說南開那邊的人比較多,南開機場繼續給他保留,是不是?以後叫他起他們坐飛機,降落的時候我看他怕不怕? |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
18778.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
18783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
我家全家人欸五條人命在這個機場上面你知道嗎?我覺得那麼強烈在那邊講話誰家搞過空難你講我很堅持就這樣子南開機場一定要廢掉了嘛飛行員、教官跟我講降落在南開機場很像降落在航空母艦上面欸你們搞過這個事情嗎?那個側風是多大你知道嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
18808.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
18834.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
很危險的勒一定要搞出人命來嗎?所以北開機場速度一定要加快那南北開大橋?你們上面講馬祖大橋就馬祖大橋嘛現在英國認證已經回來了到你們手上那你們現在又提出什麼建議?給政府建議說什麼?你們建議什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
18841.435 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
18867.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
關閉時程施工進度如果做大橋的話那麼同時做北竿機場這裡面在錢的部分能夠少多少?英國第三方的公證講說多少?390億你聽他在放屁啊他用什麼算出來的?他的腦袋是AI還是電腦啊?多深海域浪多大連量那麼量看都沒看還有國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
18869.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
18893.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
我一起罵,我改天還到農委會去罵,還到經濟委會去罵。國發會你們這些專家學者,專門騙人家。公文到手上隨便一個文就回給交通部,你們交通部也不吭不哈的。你們要把它寫出來嘛,是不是?這個橋的重要性,經費沒問題啊。都是總統級的人講經費沒問題,不是我講的,我怎麼敢講呢?經費不是問題,技術才是問題。 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
18899.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
18929.255 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
那公車是可行的嘛。我們世西不是最好的單位嗎?外國的月亮比較圓,要拿到外國去。外國現在月亮沒有我們圓,已經回來了。不然你們要有作為啊。我每個禮拜都會問。我每個禮拜都會,只要你們來,我一定會問你們這個大橋的這個進度。都是總統講的話,你講說不要做嘛,你講。你講我天天在紫雲海罵他們講話放屁,我跟你講。 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
18930.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
18954.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
騙人!騙子!你看我敢不敢講?不可以這樣嘛!部長今天又跑掉了!我會提程序問題喔!以後部長齁!你們幕僚人員部長什麼時候來這裡開會齁!你就要待在立法院!不准請假!不管誰當抓委都一樣!我想給你們方便,你們就把它隨便! |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
18957.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
18981.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我腳痛啊,不良於心,我下去我想一想不對,我又跑上來了。你們怎麼可以這樣子勒?對事情的認識的態度。市長,你能夠完全回答我問題嗎?你回答不出來嘛,你懂了沒有?有一些事情要部長來回答嘛。為什麼有時候要提到總執行去?部長也回答不來,要院長來回答。那以後交通委員會不要開會了嘛。 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
18983.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
19003.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
請次長來位階都太高了,請局長來就好了,哪個局長代表一下就好了。不可以這樣子啊。我什麼時候在立法院的殿堂那麼這樣子講話過,我從來沒有那麼生氣過我跟你講。好不好,謝謝召委。好,謝謝陳雪生委員。好,那接下來邀請林倩琦委員質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
19016.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
19028.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
謝謝主席和李彥同仁和交通部的相關夥伴們大家午安首先我先請我們的陳次長陳彥博次長待會應該陸正道恩斯的黃司長請黃司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
19042.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
19056.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
在嘉義市,他們提出了一個嘉義大眾捷運系統藍線的可行性研究。整個全長15.6公里,總共13座車站,最主要是要連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
19057.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
19085.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
台鐵跟高鐵的捷運南線那他們也送出來做一個爭取那本席幾乎每一週都這樣子來往那在全國我們黃潤武都那其他很多地方應該有的這個軌道連接高鐵跟台鐵的系統本席都看到相對完備那本席想要請教一下請問一下嘉義市的這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
19087.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
19096.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
路網的爭取現在是在什麼樣子的一個階段?看起來好像遲遲都沒有推動。就叫一下次長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
19098.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
19126.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
我跟委員報告一下原則上嘉義市政府的這樣一個捷運系統的一個規劃大概是依照相關的規定他要提出相關的一個可行性的一個研究那這個可行性的研究的報告嘉義市政府大概11月多就已經報來了那現在課證由鐵道局辦理審查中所以那交通部對這樣子的一個計畫的態度是如何? |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
19127.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
19146.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
我想交通部對於所有各地方政府的相關的有助於改善交通或促進地方的繁榮我們大概都會來予以協助但是每一個系統或者提出不管是公路鐵路提出大概都有相關審議的一個機制所以才會提到說會在鐵道局以審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
19148.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
19168.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
當然審查的過程中專家或者是各地方都會有相關的意見會提出那原則上呢我們部裡頭在必要的時候會來予以協助以上所以他們已經提出來了嗎你們現在也在這個過程當中那我剛才聽到那個陳學生委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
19169.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
19194.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
那個大橋齁你們都已經中央總統也同意那中央也應該要做了結果竟然延宕這麼久本席在這邊希望交通部能夠有一些擔當在這樣一個入網計畫其實在很多都會跟城鎮區都已經完備了所以本席不希望這樣一個計畫一直躺在交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
19194.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
19210.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單九、審 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
19221.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
19225.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
資料跟相關單位的一個專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
19225.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
19254.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
我想我請鐵道局的同仁特別去跟委員報告因為畢竟他要經過一定的一個審查的程序但是剛才委員特別提到的沒有錯他們因為有很多審查的路線的一個經驗他可以就這些所以基本上應該時間上要縮短許多了吧他可以看到到的相關可能出現的問題來提供給委員然後給嘉義市政府來參考謝謝次長那我希望能夠積極作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
19256.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
19269.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
接下來本席要談一下那個應該跟道安這個有關雖然這件事情接下來本席要談的是這個徒步的路網雖然這個部分建置好對觀光促進是有用的但是事實上交通部應該在這個上位計畫可以更積極的來認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
19273.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
19297.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
本席在第一會期跟第二會期其實都有提到全國入網的問題那根據這個徒步旅遊報告中所做的建議那本席在總質詢裡面也都跟你們說到某一些區位在這個區塊的一個沒有連結而且安全性其實很質疑所以我不知道這個部分在交通部目前進行到如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
19300.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
19316.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
我跟委員報告,委員剛剛特別提到的,如果是以人行或環島這個步行的這樣的一個概念來看步行跟自行車,您這個圖面可以看到嗎?已經好幾次了,本人談,有時談到徒步的路幅、自行車的路幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
19317.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
19343.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
那城鎮之間的連結?對,如果有機會我們也可以去跟委員報告有關目前規劃,已經規劃有相關詳細的自行車的一個路網,跟相關自行車路網之間如何連結。還有自行車還有徒步?是,那在這裡頭如果在這個可以把徒步放進去,而且我們也可以發現很多正在環島徒步的人也大概都走在自行車的一個規劃。對,所以你們有發現這個危險性嘛,對吧? |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
19346.057 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
19359.934 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
我們都一併在做檢討,那如果有必要我們也可以跟委員做一個相關的一個說明。好,本席希望這邊有一些具體的回應。最後本席要提醒,可以先請教一下那個次長,請問您知道禁止跟警示的差異在哪裡嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
19362.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
19376.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
19389.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
19414.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
接管了。結果管了之後呢都禁止大家下水。我想請教一下我們在水域活動的推廣跟安全的管理請問從有了相關單位之後那交通部的積極作為可以給本席一個很具體而且積極作為的報告回應嗎?這沒有問題。我想這個是我們觀光署長期在推動的事項。是。好。那謝謝次長。謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
19419.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
19423.201 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
謝謝林千祺委員接下來邀請王洪威委員質詢好謝謝主席我先請我們陳次長請陳彥博次長還有陶基公司的范總經理范總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
19446.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
19467.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
我想先請范總經理來跟我們說一下因為我們這次中華英雄中華隊他們回到國內那麼在整個的機場因為非常凌亂而且發生所謂的黃金之亂也就是我們的免稅店的採盲公司他們亂入 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
19469.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
19494.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
當然就引起了非常多的爭議。我想請問一下彩萌在我們的陶基現在的合約會到民國幾年幾月?跟委員報告彩萌的合約是從108年開始這中間因為有經歷了疫情的影響所以這個大概有三年四個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
19494.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
19497.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
19515.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
19519.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
合約時間是在119年12月,所以實際上最後延長時間是129年4月。所以到民國幾年?129年4月。129年4月,也就是到2020年的4月,是嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
19544.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
19546.688 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
19566.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
19592.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
除此之外在合約上面有沒有其他的一些牽制的功能所以我們是不是還是必須等到2040年的4月也就是說還有16年是我想跟委員報告我們早上報告的這個是一個懲罰性的一個罰款那就我們合約執行本身我們每年要對他們的營運績效來做平和 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
19593.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
19620.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
所以今年的話這一次的事件一定會反映在113的這個平和結果裡面那這個部分都會納到我們的後續合約執行的檢討來一併做整體的考量所以也就是說雖然他的合約還在走但是這個事件會納入他的這個合約是不是能夠繼續持續的檢討所以是有可能提早解約的嗎? |
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19621.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
19636.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
這個部分我們可能會做整體的檢討因為在合約裡面的確有如果這個情節真的重大到會影響到合約執行那可能會有相對應的條款來處理那對於這一次的情形 |
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19637.533 |
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19649.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
當然就是會以整體來看它的一個狀況。老師說這個有關於我們一直不停的延長合約在我去年我就曾經提出來過對不對也就是說我們本來我們就有12年的一個合約因為疫情給它延長3年所以就已經有15年 |
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19658.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
19670.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
bicyclone去年他又以所謂的因為疫情的關係在給他而深恆昌是10年4個月彩毛是9年4個月所以兩家呢每一家呢都會變成25年長達25年四分之一世紀的一個長期的合約 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
19677.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
19682.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
所以我當時就說這到底是什麼樣的霸王合約啊我在國外免稅店也不可能給他們這麼長的合約大家都經歷過疫情所以其實在去年的時候你們給他這麼長的合約就已經有問題了才造成這個採摩整個是喧賓奪主啊變成黃金之亂而你們合約裡面說看營運績效營運績效也就是說我們如果觀光人潮夠多的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
19703.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
19704.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。 |
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19733.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
19738.688 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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19754.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
19776.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
在這個國門在維持他的營運所以他也受到營運的損失那我們的確是依據促參法還有這個契約的相關規定來核算按公式來算這這件事情啊如果沒有這個黃金之亂可能大家還沒有注意到好沒有錯三年多那麼他受到疫情的影響你再補他補他三年 |
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19778.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
19783.169 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審 |
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19795.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
19797.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單 |
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19815.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
19842.248 |
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對於這個合約的執行營運績效不是看它的營業而是就合約應該要負責的內容比如說包含公共服務各方面有沒有做得好。那它公共服務有做得好嗎?做成這樣都做到黃金之亂所以最後一句話是不是你剛剛講說公共服務公共服務服務到引起公憤啊它公共服務引起公憤所以你們在這一次是不是在合約裡面要真的做檢討啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
19844.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
19862.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
報告委員,所以這一次的一個事件一定會在今年的營運績效評估裡面去充分的來做反應跟做對應的計畫。你們什麼時候會做出一個結論?我們一般的話是今年的營運績效會在明年來辦理。明年什麼時候? |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
19863.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
19880.871 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
明年有12個月我們預計是大概從上半年就開始準備因為這個我們不是我們機場公司自己來做平額我們會邀請外部的委員來做平額所以這個這件事情不要等到這個事情平息了風頭過去了然後就不了了之好不好好謝謝好謝謝王宏威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
19889.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
19907.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
王美惠委員、王美惠委員、王美惠委員、王美惠委員不在現場李伯益委員、李伯益委員、李伯益委員、李伯益委員不在現場鄭振前委員、鄭振前委員、鄭振前委員、鄭振前委員不在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
19908.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
19928.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
接下來邀請鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭天才委員不在現場接下來邀請張雅玲委員張雅玲委員張雅玲委員張雅玲委員不在現場接下來邀請林楚英委員林楚英委員林楚英委員林楚英委員不在現場接下來邀請羅志強委員羅志強委員羅志強委員羅志強委員不在現場接下來邀請蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
19934.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
19949.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員不在現場。接下來邀請徐欣盈委員、徐欣盈委員、徐欣盈委員、徐欣盈委員不在現場。接下來邀請鐘嘉斌委員、鐘嘉斌委員、鐘嘉斌委員、鐘嘉斌委員不在現場。 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
19953.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
19971.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
登記與質詢委員均已發言完畢,作為以下決議。報告及詢答完畢。委員羅志強、張雅琳所提書面質詢列入記錄並刊登公報。委員於質詢中要求提供相關書面資料或未及答覆部分,請交通部盡速以書面答覆。 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
19973.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
19993.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
114年度交通部中央氣象署公路局及所屬單位預算國道公路建設管理基金非營業預算均另則其進行處理委員所提預算提案於12月12日星期四中午12點截止收件本次會議到此結束現在散會 |
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20021.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
20021.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
預算案附屬單 |
| IVOD_ID |
16311 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16311 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-11 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T08:31:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T14:10:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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