| IVOD_ID |
163035 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163035 |
| 日期 |
2025-07-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-3-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第4次全院委員會會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第4次全院委員會會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-07-09T11:25:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-07-09T11:45:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:20:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/29dd8432533c2d58653a68b1bcce8668914535bb497189ef8774e4c670b29f43ecad090f378ca0a25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:25:20 - 11:45:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-07-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第4次全院委員會會議（事由：總統咨，為司法院大法官含院長、副院長，現有缺額7名，茲依據中華民國憲法增修條文第5條規定，提名蔡秋明、蘇素娥、蕭文生、鄭純惠、林麗瑩、陳慈陽、詹鎮榮7位為司法院大法官，並以蔡秋明為院長、蘇素娥為副院長，咨請同意案。） |
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以及各位先進大家早安大家好這個有請我們的司法院長被提名人蔡先生麻煩再請再被提名人各位好 |
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蔡貝廷銘這個我不知道怎麼稱呼你你當過主任檢察官我就姑且因為你還沒當院長嘛還有我們的同意嘛我就稱呼你蔡主任好了好不好蔡主任啦我想我們做任何事情我們看一個人那個英文有一句話叫Track Rick |
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很重要 check record 你知道嗎你過去的履歷啦你做的一些的事情 check record你的 check record 就是地檢署的主任檢察官高檢的主任檢察官你不覺得你來當司法院長底子有一點薄嗎太薄啦 太薄你感覺怎麼樣 |
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你看以前的院長是誰翁玉生賴英照賴浩敏現在的許中立我對他也有一點意見啦是就這個處理事件的事情有一件可是好歹許中立是台大的教授你呢就是單朝一國從頭到尾就是 |
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這個檢察署的主任檢察官底子深 身板很薄啦我都高度質疑喔這個賴總統提名你喔有點想把你拿來當炮灰準備被封殺的然後再激起朝野對抗就變這樣了我這樣講話你可以接受嗎 |
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這個我沒辦法評論這件事情我沒辦法評論沒辦法接受喔那我另外告訴你你會比較喜歡聽到的說不定你不喜歡聽到那我就告訴你為什麼你被提名原因之一因為賴清德當立委的時候 |
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他去檢舉指控2005年的時候檢舉指控雷學明收賄2000萬美金檢察官起訴第一個檢察官起訴是誰盧仁發第二個檢察官是誰就是蔡秋明就是閣下 |
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你先不要講你就是盲從這個是誰寫的這個是陳昌文我們的法界 |
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大佬寫的你就是盧仁發他這樣寫喔盧仁發濫權開端蔡秋敏盲從我要講這個字盲從跟著起訴結果呢歷經九年被判無罪被判無罪還要陪雷學敏將軍結果你現在到現在為止你是 |
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並沒有受刑法125條濫權追訴罪的罪責所以你沒有被追責 照理講你要被追責啊你濫訴啊判了9年 他無罪 報告委員 這個案子我剛已經講了第三次 這個案子不是我起訴的無罪嘛 反而他是無罪的嘛 到現在無罪嘛雷先生無罪啊 你是起訴檢察官之一啊我不是起訴檢察官之一 |
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前面有委員提到的 我就長話短說 |
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所以如果不是我第一個講的情況來這裡當炮灰那是第二個情況他感恩戴德啊因為你抓到他的心他要他這個追究這個雷學敏你抓到他的心這個你還有話講嗎這個我要解釋的就是說 |
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雷先生這個案子我不是起訴檢察官所以沒有什麼暴打之類的你有沒有簽字有沒有簽字簽字簽字啦你有簽字嗎我當時人不在台北地檢我怎麼簽字呢 |
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所以跟您沒有關係?不是跟我沒有關係,但是這個案子我就不是起訴檢察官啊不好意思,你是什麼,扮演什麼角色?這個案子後來在公訴的時候,審判的時候我有參與立庭就是參與公訴活動是嘛,所以你有參與嘛,怎麼沒有參與,不然陳昌文不會冤枉你嗎?陳律師有點搞錯啦,有點搞錯 |
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那你要求他更正啊他把它寫這麼大剌剌的這樣寫好 這個我們來看啦今天講 我跟你談這個廢死的問題憲法法庭做出一字決的實質廢死老實講 全台灣的老百姓反彈之大是非常的憤怒 |
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老百姓85%是反廢死的結果因為民進黨政府他追求所謂的進步價值他跟著歐盟跑所以就要推動廢死但是這個大法官的一個憲法法庭很厲害喔他知道民意在這裡給你空空你愛好你 |
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所以他說合憲可是呢你要判死刑每一審都要判死刑極有不可能啊所以就是實質廢死老百姓對這個事情到現在為止是不能夠放過這一群的大法官的憲法法庭的解釋這個你要不要表示你的意見 |
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一三憲判第八號這個判決事實上是肯定死刑的存在他並沒有否定這個死刑等於沒有了他那個大佛跟四憲之後等於沒有了是的困難度會比較高等於沒有了等於台灣現在沒有死刑了 |
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不能這樣推 我想這個不相等跟廢除死刑是不一樣的辭職廢死 我要講辭職廢死所以老百姓就會想啊 這個司法院啊司法院啊 老實講 已經變成 被內閣化了我給你舉例啊 注意看啊2023年 司法官學院的院長沒有經過遴選後 行政院拍板 |
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國事會議改革消極應對無力主導2023到2024檢查一體的爭議默許行政體系掌控檢察權所以基本上來講你變成已經淪為總統府總統的一個司法局等一下我再跟你講為什麼現在可以看得到 |
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賴清德總統為什麼要發動大罷免他現在就是兼總統權 行政權 監察權 考試權司法權 媒體權就獨獨的缺了一個立法權所以為什麼他非得搞大罷免要把我們都罷掉 希望拿到立法權就區權合一啊 |
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齊全合一就超級大總統簡稱皇帝他要做這個事情你告訴我你的回答對我要不要投你統一票很重要喔雖然我對你諸多批評我不見得一定否定你喔我這個五十五十喔看你表現啊 盡你表現啊這個你要說 |
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你如何外界已經認為司法院已經淪陷了 徹底淪陷了不再中立不再獨立就是內閣化就是內閣化 內閣的一環何其悲哀你如果當院長如何匡正這個事情關於政治解讀的事情我不方便評論 |
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我的理解司法院不是總統的司法局我的理解是這樣憲法法庭還是能夠維持獨立審判獨立審判的空間這是我的認知 謝謝我們來看我們來看那個萊豬的視線就好了萊豬的視線萊豬的視線 |
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這個很清楚的萊豬的失陷案地方政府想要說你中央規定我地方政府嚴格一點為什麼因為中央說不可以啊這個案子最赤裸裸的大法官徹底向當權者跪下來投降最好的例子 |
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各地方政府為了他的老百姓健康我嚴格一點為什麼不可以我只有標示說這有來致還是沒有來致 不可以為什麼說不可以 因為美國說不可以美國爸爸說不可以所以中央政府就指定 不可以然後就去釋憲 釋憲大法官完全跟行政部門一樣我告訴你啊我為什麼說你們已經變成司法局 |
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從蔡英文當總統之後所有的視線全部都是民進黨要的民進黨不要的一個都不會過現在為止一樣我們立法院立了法 我們代表人民我們的民力是百分之百請問你後面有幾票你沒有民力基礎 就是總統提名你我有民力基礎我有民力基礎 |
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我文山區南中正選出來的立委我們假設的名利是百分之百然後呢最少我們過半通過了法律這個行政院不要了賴清德不要了就交給你們 你們就把他封殺誰看到這個事情好像拳擊賽一個擂台裡面行政司法 行政立法在那裡大家在那裡彼此的struggling然後 |
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旁邊裁判就是你們你幫一邊啊 幫行政啊阿打一啊現在叫阿打一啊所有行政院不要的案子 通通丟給你們你們通通做的解釋 都是跟行政部門一模一樣這不是司法局 什麼才是司法局何其悲哀啊我講到現在為止蔡這個主任 你都沒辦法反駁我 |
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我都講事實I'm talking fact我想事實我能不能稍微回應一下我想司法權確實不是民選的司法人員都不是民選那民選他沒有民意基礎這確實但是不民選有不民選的好處就是說他並沒有 |
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黨派的利益 因為民選他有黨派所以呢 你們都有啊 結果都有啊司法權本來就有抗多數的這樣的特性這個叫做 counter majority |
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那這個在美國的一個學者你們不是抗多數而是抗人民啊你們的解釋就是抗人民啊我們是人民選出來的我們就立出來的法律你們要把我們推上你們是抗人民啊立法委員是有民意基礎是沒錯的當然是啊所以你們否定我們對不對這個行政院喔他的權利喔打一個巴掌過來呼籲然後呢還不夠輸了你們再來一個巴掌 |
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如果大法官用選的那就更嚴重了好在大法官不是用選的沈政軍你剛說什麼我說大法官不是用選的啦因為選的他要對選民負責他就有政治立場 |
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他不能有政治立場他提名有沒有良心啦他提名有沒有為了台灣這個社會現在全部綠化 綠油油的一片所以當然解釋的結果就是全部的綠化當然是一個司法局啊怎麼會司法院呢是不是 然後我們再看啊你們做的結果 你們做的一個解釋先是憲法法庭 |
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跟民意差很多 沒有辦法推翻你你們說 哇 你們就是憲法 你們最大你們是神 奇怪 老百姓咧我們不是所有的 Everything我們所有的一切都為人民了人民的意思 人民最大人民可以用公投來推翻你們的解釋我們可以吧最低的 我們最低的一點點的請求期待 |
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說人民用公投的一個結果來推翻我們要大罵官的這個憲法法庭的決策令這個問題算是蠻有趣的問題不是有趣還講有趣這個很有趣當然是很嚴肅的問題我意思就是說所謂有趣的問題意思就是說它是值得探討 |
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但是現在目前由大院所訂的憲法訴訟法裡面,能夠成為憲法法庭審理的案件,它有明文的規定,規定得很清楚。 |
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那其中並沒有包括說這個大法官會議的大法官憲法法庭的那個判決可以作為公投的標的沒有這樣規定我們公投項目加一個憲法法庭的歧視 |
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解釋結果我們加一條就好了這條問題在你因為你想當院長的你的態度很重要白德威我剛才話沒講完一開頭沒講完你對於廢死的態度是什麼廢死的態度你慢慢回答仔細回答廢死的態度我想我剛已經提過就是我個人並不贊成廢死不贊成廢死那我有我的原因 |
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好 原因不用講 我現在態度好來 我再給你看一張賴總統執政司法改革的表現民眾滿意三十趴不滿意五十倍趴差有夠多 |
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就是我講的啊因為現在司法院不再是司法院現在司法院就是司法局可悲自治啊真的悲哀了因為都從民進黨執政以後到現在為止所有憲法法庭所做的解釋全部favor |
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執政黨都是他們贏的在野黨一次都沒有贏過就很清楚啊所以只要我們現在立了法韓運長主廚這麼辛苦你看到我都替他這麼辛苦這麼聰明的一個人在這裡 |
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努力老半天 案子過了 到你們那裡就宰掉了就宰掉啦我們一直想這個心很痛耶台灣是什麼社會為什麼立法院 人民選舉院立法院我立的法通過了 主席的垂直一敲還不算耶 全世界都算了 垂直一敲就算了不是喔 就等一等 後面在那裡大法官在那裡 他說NO |
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不可以的 不可以的很悲哀喔這個 蔡主任到現在為止我沒有聽到你有什麼辦法能夠來或者你敢不敢說 如果你當院長你最少有一件會解釋出來這個不會favor 要執政黨 |
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我想純粹的政治性案件那應該憲法法庭是不會受理的萊豬怎麼是政治性的案件呢萊豬是跟大家的健康有關係啊吃在家裡時間久了健康出問題啊這什麼政治事件呢或者是行政事務的案件行政事務 |
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另外一個我們關心的題目很少人問你我要問你一個問題很嚴肅台灣的青少年被大馬金屯纏死到處可以見到大馬的萃取物比如說電子煙 比如說加熱煙 |
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而且你去看到 你都很清楚 你是警察官啦在監獄裡面好高的比例啊 過半都是毒 有關係啊現在大麻在我們的衛街裡面 它是二級毒品對不對你贊成合法化嗎我個人不贊成合法化你要公開講 大聲一點喔我個人不贊成大麻合法化 |
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好 反對齁那我希望這個假如你當院長 |
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1204.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
這個絕對不能輕放因為一直有人想要推動大麻合法化想要學泰國想要學其他有些國家說從娛樂性的開始用然後什麼地方等等的我覺得這個害死我們的下一代害死台灣這個非常的重要最後一點就是大麻合法化 |
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| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
絕對要反對絕對不能容於台灣的社會這一點非常重要也請這個蔡主任你緊記這個不管你有沒有當院長我覺得這個大家一起來努力好不好謝謝好 謝謝謝謝委員好 謝謝賴思寶委員的詢問也謝謝 |