| IVOD_ID |
162972 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162972 |
| 日期 |
2025-07-03 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-07-03T10:38:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-07-03T10:48:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
劉書彬 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:56 - 10:48:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-07-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第4次全院委員會「行使司法院院長、副院長及大法官同意權案」公聽會（事由：第11屆第3會期第4次全院委員會「行使司法院院長、副院長及大法官同意權案」公聽會） |
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那這對大法官的這個順利產出有什麼樣的影響第二個問題是大法官他作為憲法的守護者那請問學者專家們您認為如果要選擇一個最重要的條件的話那會是什麼那針對這個問題呢剛才那個兩個提問我其實有一個有兩個異常在這邊說明第一個是 |
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很遺憾大法官的人事同意權這麼重要的案子總統並沒有正視到國會的多數會在提名前徵詢到政黨的各意見那不利於這樣的一個通過第二個被提名人他們都有一定的 |
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法學素養但通過的關鍵是只有司法獨立的堅持才能夠真正的捍衛權利分立人權保障我以下就深邃問這兩個議場來做說明本席在還沒有擔任立法委員時曾在去年的議場座談會當中指出立法院三黨不過半的這個時執政的民進黨在國會他只有我再看一下我這邊PPT他只有 |
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五十一席大家可以看一下這只有五十一席那賴政統和政府呢將會受到更多的這個監督因此呢政府不應該沿襲他過去的這完全執政的邏輯來施政而應該更頻繁的來進行政黨溝通協調那大法官呢仍是一個總統跟國會 |
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合作完成的這個行為要經過這兩個憲政機關背後民意的一個肯認絕非只是說核對法定資格而已決策點是被提名人能否同時被總統跟立法院多數接受重點是多數接受信任期能夠在憲政正義當中扮演公平裁判的角色 |
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總統跟國會抗衡又合作的制度是辦總統制國會精神的辦總統制憲法精神的重點重大的議案在國會三黨不過半的一個情勢之下應該事前的應該事前的要做到 |
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應該在三黨不放的情勢下應該事先的公開徵詢各政黨的意見了再提案但賴總統在三月底提出大法官的名單前並未徵詢在野黨的意見現在是七月了那國會就會排案了嚴格來審查總統呢實際上他是忽略了他憲政的角色這並非是最佳最尊重國會的這樣的一個做法那因此呢 |
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本席在這邊要特別呼籲由於立法院已經在議事處已經匯集了三檔提出的大法官的問卷在上週六月二十四號都已經寄出了被提名人對立法院的回應具備的是 |
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事後補救的這樣一個效益因此民眾黨特別要呼籲請被提名人儘速詳實的來回答讓立法院在7月9號下周三開始詢答程序之前能夠有完整的資訊然後儘速的亡羊補牢顯示對立法院的尊重這才是正途 |
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那我們繼續再往下看6月29號的時候賴總統在團結時講第三講裡面講到的憲政體制花了很多的篇幅在講歷次修憲還有在五院等的憲法機關更不斷的去合理化他上任以來濫用復議權然後對抗在野黨的情形但是賴總統請你要注意過去民進黨的很多的前輩 |
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在許信良、黃信介、黃黃雄他們在黨內曾經推動並通過了民主大憲章它所蘊含的一個精神是要求總統要正視國會的多數而這個過程曾經也落實在第四次的修憲過程和內容當中既然現在民進黨做不到而且不能夠真誠地去做事前的溝通民眾黨絕對會嚴審大法官審好審滿 |
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那我們現在看到的另外第二個主題是外界曾戲稱本黨在去年底創下流淨儀基準大白話一句就是說只要對當選者有說不的勇氣民眾黨就會支持本席就以下三個事例來做觀察被提名人是否能在關鍵的時刻說不 |
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第一件事情呢是被提名人陳慈揚來說大家都知道他在106年到去年8月的時候擔任考試委員代表蔡英文總統推動年金改革卸任的前夕當時的考試委員們竟然荒腔走板的包括陳慈揚呢他支持了賴總統的對抗國會多數的這個路線 |
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那這個時候他修改了考試院的會議規則以處理緊急事項為由讓無需經國會同意的考權三長就能代替考試委員召集並主持院會這架空了立法院的人事同意權也讓第十二屆考試委員黃景堂投書批判認為有違憲之餘萬萬不可 |
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後來雖然第十四屆的考試委員呢人事案同意案通過了也完成了院會呢追認了之前的這樣的會議然而陳慈陽先生在院會通過修法時沒有出現阻擋這破壞憲政秩序的相關作為如今又獲得大法官提名國人如何能夠期待他在關鍵時刻面對權勢時能夠捍衛憲政體制呢 |
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第二個案例以立法院的職權來說被提名人的蕭文森教授是國內針對此議題有深入 |
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研究的學者在他的著作裡面立法委員的質詢權對於行政院的答覆義務義文還有科長咱們議會間的論文當中都強加論述了質詢的答覆義務甚至以德國法為例指出個別的國會議員針對這種情形他都可以向憲法法院提出訴訟 |
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該文還指出在我國法案不一樣的那時大法官的案件審理法沒有這樣的一個救濟途徑使立法院的質詢權監督制衡功能無法發揮 |
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433.012 |
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相較之下在113年的憲判自9號裡面甚至發明出質詢權是政治義務大家可以看到質詢權是政治義務不能轉換成法律義務的這個見解這與蕭教授的見解呢就完全的不同是南原北測的由此可以見到蕭教授應該是會認同官員答覆質詢的義務可以修法來加以強制 |
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然而這樣捍衛憲法粉色的見解 卻要面臨憲法判決多數意見的否定可見見解能不能落實呢 挑戰不小那我們在講的是更重要的是另外一個許中立大法官的案例可以看出來憲法見解落實在實務上面的一個困境 |
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根據憲法第77條規定若官學說有著憲法懲戒一元化的主張過去許宗麗大法官就這樣主張她在44583號的不同意見書裡面明擺指出也可知道大法官系以維穩的方式指出憲法懲戒呢之外同時存在著考積懲處的雙軌制但是這是違憲的 |
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504.344 |
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結果111憲判第9、第10號的判決重新面對這個憲法的問題這時許忠麗已經是司法院長了竟以司法院一指公告迴避這個問題判決結果也180度大轉彎直說憲法上沒有懲戒議員化這個事情本席並非要再論斷 |
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懲戒一元化的對錯而是要透過這個例子指出93年的許仲利大法官獨排眾議支持懲戒一元化但到了111年的許仲利大法官院長他卻迴避了審理最終判決也徹底的翻轉了 |
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這是一個血淋淋的例子展現了即使有司法素養有獨大的見解是法律學者但是他當了大法官之後擁有權力之後轉變立場和當權者站在一起而無法升任憲法守護者的角色 |
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563.521 |
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最後本席要強調大法官應該扮演的是維護憲法規則的公正裁判角色在關鍵時刻當中要對當權者說不 |
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這就是說的這邊對當選者說不堅持司法獨立才是全民的期盼民眾黨接下來也會站在這樣的立場嚴審全體大法官的人事案只有大法官他能夠堅持司法獨立這樣子民眾黨才會支持讓他通過好 謝謝好 謝謝劉書斌委員的發言接著請宗家斌委員發言林倩琪委員請準備 |
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593.817 |
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596.07 |
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好 謝謝主席 那麼今天 |