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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部及所屬單位預算案。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管文化發展基金附屬單位預算案。
四、審查114年度行政法人國家表演藝術中心、文化內容策進院、國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案。
（僅進行詢答，相關預算提案請於11月28日下午2時前提出）
【11月20日及21日二天一次會】） |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化及所屬單位預算案。 |
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報告委員會,現在繼續開會。今天的議程有四項。第一是審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部及所屬單位預算案。第二,審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管文化發展基金附屬單位預算案。第四、審查114年度行政法人國家表演藝術中心文化內容策進院國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案。首先介紹在場委員,其次介紹與會員官員。 |
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李婉楷議員李敬慧議員王詩詩 |
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議員議員議員 |
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現在我們來請李部長進行報告,時間8分鐘。 |
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主席各位委員各位先進今天應邀列席貴委員會就文化部主管的114年度預算專案報告我深感榮幸以下提出我的重點報告為了使藝術向下扎根培養我們的下一代更具有創造力人文關懷及文化素養我們持續豐富兒少文化內容 |
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bicy、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicy、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicy、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicy、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicy、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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adequate to the local story of the community,一文工作者讓各地發展出各自具有經濟效益、觀光潛力,還有教育文化意義的文化基地。在文化產業方面,我們爭取到第二個國發基金100億,期待壯大台灣文化內容,提升國際競爭力。 |
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議員議員 |
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追上日本和韓國,我們會持續鼓勵臺灣原創作品的產製、跨域IP的創造,提供創作者更好的環境,同時發展更多元的數位閱讀,並且支持實體書店的運作和串聯。 |
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2017.648 |
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鼓勵大家到書店買書看書還有傳書在表演藝術方面我們努力讓更多中小型的團隊成長茁壯讓中壯世代地方團隊可以有更多的能量創作出更多在國際市場上有辨識度的作品在國際舞台上吸引大家的眼球 |
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我們也會加強扶植視覺藝術的青年世代同時中壯世代藝術家提升國際能見度支持台灣藝術家到國際參展或是在國內專業的展覽空間展出並且透過公共藝術的發展讓台灣的視覺藝術家有更大的發展空間 |
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為了打造更多的Made in Taiwan的文創與時尚的品牌我們會加強台灣IP品牌深化故事力和授權的運用整合永續時尚產業鏈讓台灣的服裝設計不只被更多人看見還有被更多人來穿戴台灣的漫畫作品正處於 |
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國家鐵道博物館園區也會考量臨近的觀光資源和人潮打造成吸引全民甚至國際遊客的鐵道博物館園區。以上我們強建臺灣文化產業的體質就是為了顧好藝文工作者讓他們可以向世界展現臺灣文化能量。 |
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我們也會盡最大的力量來協助他們站上國際舞台,像是跨部會合作、落實文化外交、擴大影視內容的國際通路、文學外藝作品的推廣,支持台灣藝文創作者進軍國際展會、藝術節或是國際場館等,像是明年即將到來的大阪世博。 |
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接下來,我們也會持續支持公視各頻道經營,產製專業優質的影音內容,持續推動國家語言建構母語的友善環境,推動重建台灣藝術史2.0,持續挖掘研究台灣的藝文故事,並且在族群文化、多元性別、壯世代等領域持續努力。 |
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有關114年度預算編列情況的部分文化部主管114年稅出預算290.1億加上前三五期預算編列的13.8億共303.9億是歷年最高。懇請各位委員大力支持有關114年度預算重點說明如下 |
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一、地方藝文餐館、博物館及地方文化館深耕計畫5.9億、重建臺灣藝術史2.0計畫4.6億、案內影視基地發展計畫2億、打造永續共好地方穿深計畫1.3億、文化部聯合典藏中心整建計畫1億、 |
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國際數位傳播計畫10億公共電視內容產製與應用計畫8.1億出版產業最新方案計畫2億影視音產業續航發展計畫15億 |
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厲史與文化資產維護發展計畫11.8億兩廳院藝文推廣欄道地面景觀設計2.2億國父紀念館古蹟整修文化設施服務提升計畫1.5億 |
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國立文化機構作業基金部分總收入9.5億總支出10.8億收支相抵少了1.3億文化發展基金方面基金來源編3億基金用途編1.5億基金來源跟用途相抵後還剩下1.5億行政法人部分國家表演藝術中心總收入列了33.1億文化內容測試院總收入列9.4億 |
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國家電影及視訊中心總收入編4億財團法人文化部主管12家財團法人114年度總預算編收66億。文化部作為臺灣藝術文化的服務者將持續文化永續世界臺灣為核心理念持續努力114年度各項文化施政預算。懇請各位委員持續支持。謝謝。 |
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好,謝謝李部長的口頭報告。那現在我們進行綜合詢答。每位出席委員質詢8分鐘,必要時延長2分鐘。列席委員質詢時間為4分鐘,發言登記截止時間為上午10點30分。 |
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委員如果有臨時提案請於上午10點30分前提出並於本會委員范雲芸質詢結束後進行臨時提案。處理臨時提案時若提案委員及連署委員均不在場原例不予處理。首先我們先請發言登記第一位林倩琦委員質詢。 |
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謝謝主席。我們的院同仁還有我們文化部的同仁大家好。首先我請我們文化部李部長,謝謝。好,有請李部長。 |
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部長,剛才聽到您希望大家來支持您的這個預算,不過本席這邊有一些困難,因為我們追了你們辦公室很久很久的這個有關於相關計畫的一些細部的內容,一直到現在本席也都拿不到,所以我們就看能夠怎麼樣來支持。 |
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首先本席要跟您談的一下是這個人權博物館本席在之前有質詢過目前你們的主題展都聚集在白色恐怖時期在許多的內容上你們也一直強化這樣一個概念但是依據國家人權博物館的組織法第三條 |
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議會應該來推動當代的人權理念的發展本席之前也一直跟您提醒各個歷史時期跟所有族群本席這邊也提醒您先去確認一下學界在講的歷史時期是指什麼樣子的階段 |
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所以這個是時間性另外一個是項目婦女、新住民、原住民等等的多元人權議題那應該有一定的比重所以這個跟你們人權博物館的組織法第3條的規定不符不過我這邊提醒請你們不要再用行政命令來偷渡 |
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在不義遺址的定義上也有一樣的情形我還是提醒這個東西要涵蓋各個歷史時期的壓迫事件不是只有某一個政權的錯誤所以這個著重點本席這邊提醒歷史敘述的客觀性、公正性不能只是政治勢力的單方面操縱因為文化已經是最後一片淨土了 |
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所以在11月23號本席執行過部長您答應說在11月的展覽會做出一些改善但是對於跳脫歷史的選擇性跟擴大歷史的展覽範圍本席這邊好像看到了一點點但是不全然所以你們在人權藝術節跟國際人權影展的部分有提升當代人權的這個比例但是在展示裡面、展覽的部分 |
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所以你們在教育展示的部分推廣計畫總共有3500萬還比上年度增加了一些經費本席認為你們在忽略各個歷史時期跟人權的議題這個部分是你們必須要再有所檢討跟處理的部長您的看法 |
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我非常贊成委員的看法因為台灣的歷史經過幾百年之後從殖民到國民政府來台灣它是一個非常複雜的歷史謝謝那感謝部長常常都很贊同我的看法但是我很希望能夠在你們實際的作為上看到您的承諾好那接下來我跟您提醒一下公共藝術的這個推廣的一個弊端我想這個已經不是一個新議題了 |
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但是長久以來大家對公共藝術遭受少數特定代辦的這個不合理的現象一直有在提那你們也知道監察院已經有對你們提出一些看法那我在這邊先引用監察院的原文 |
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文化部沒有積極地何時來建置專家學者的名單,那多層次揭露資訊,跟將違規廠商及委員分別列入採購黑名單及除名,落實迴避及旋轉門條款。可是你們的回應又一味的已,皆或相關檢舉或明確違法事證。 |
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厲於各徵選方式的簡章範本等第20條皆有定迴避條款這個回應其實是有點消極所以本期在這邊給你一個數據公共藝術已經25年了那到110年的推動25年了到110年為止那你們總共有2000多件的設置作品有5000多件那總經費已經快100億了但是最大的問題在新辦單位不僅 |
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在110年就有公共藝術案共141件,84件委託代辦,58件集中在4家,比例很高,41%。這個部分讓人家一直在懷疑會生會贏的,你們跟利益集團統籌分配及利益分配者好像有很大的關聯。 |
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所以這個部分本席要再提醒這真的不是一個新的議題所以您剛才說到很希望能夠讓一些視覺的藝術家有更大的發展空間那不好意思在這件事情上你們看到視覺藝術家有機會嗎? |
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他們甚至覺得自己要靠行才能夠拿到案子那這個部分有這麼多的批評在環境上也造就了無數的公共垃圾環境視覺的汙染那地方上也很多的聲音少數團體的壟斷常常都為了只需要辦而辦那這個問題部長您了解多少 |
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議員主席 |
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請你們做一個專案報告,跟繳交書面報告。我們要用獎項來收編人,很容易,但我們希望能夠處理系統性的問題。接下來本席想請教一下,所以您知道你們在這個部分的專家學者資料庫,文化部有多少人嗎?我們先,我請市長講。 |
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現在資料庫部分有400人,那我們在去年的時候開了非常多的公聽會,所以我們在今年8月的時候已經修法,那也把相關剛剛委員所講的有關迴避、有關資料庫的問題以及有關相關這個……來來來,請問藝術創作者在這裡面有多少人? |
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2803.199 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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2821.134 |
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因為這個資料庫是四個藝術類的資料庫 |
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2859.323 |
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我跟你們提醒那個專家學者的廣泛性是非常重要的那委員數少重複性又很高請你們廣納各領域的專家學者部長你這部分能夠承諾嗎?不但承諾我們已經在做非常感謝委員有看到這件事情的問題其實我個人也發現問題很嚴重好的那接下來我再跟你們提醒下一個問題請你承諾 |
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那不好意思接下來我們看一下這個公文藝術的內容你覺得這個公文藝術怎麼樣?我想每個人對美學看法都不太一樣。好那本席告訴你齁你們這個你們常常說在地化、本土化然後又常常去中化那你們知道這些材料還有這個公文藝術是什麼來的嗎?是誰製的嗎? |
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2918.945 |
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我其實從頭到尾沒有覺得我們台灣有去中化這個議題呢好謝謝那我希望以後在你們的業務上我們不會看到去中化的議題是是好那這些公共藝術是從大陸下門進來的喔是喔那其實是工業品而非藝術品那這個就如同你講的那我們在藝術上有很多不同的看法但是這樣的情形你覺得台灣的世界藝術家 |
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空間藝術家的這些青年還有希望嗎?所以本席在這邊要提醒你公共藝術設計的範圍很廣文化資源的業務這邊本席也做一個提醒在明年你們也編列了不少五億多您剛才也提到希望地方文化館博物館還有相關的這個經費需要我們支持但是我們要看到你們能夠讓我們支持的一個誠意 |
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所以在你們已經執行了好幾年的4年100億的匯聚台流文化黑潮公共藝術在這裡面擔任很大的角色可是如果這個部分沒有讓我們感覺到心安你覺得我們應該如何支持 |
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2962.325 |
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2988.208 |
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最後我要提醒一下我想今天我們都會提到很多有關於台灣Plus你們捧的褸子應該都知道吧在內容的部分這個不要再跟我講這是藝術的創作性那大家的創意58億的這個經費讓我們國際間的一個笑話我想也不在話下啦但我們先講一下效度你們要達標100萬但是目前只有15萬的下載 |
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2998.441 |
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所以你們效度如何?三年多已經燒了二十幾億快三十億那成果卻如此那你覺得這個還需要留嗎部長? |
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3026.881 |
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我們其實對外有解釋過這些數字都跟實際情況有差別我們其實流量有兩位多所以今年審計部的七月報告其實已經點名台灣的台灣Plus跟計畫目標未符所以你們應該要在內容上更深加的檢視還有收視率還有社會的反響上其實都跟六家無線電視台的排名你要看看嗎可以啊 可以看 |
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3029.13 |
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bicyn 您知道嗎?我們在幫您們收集資料嗎?您說排名是不是?它主要是在國外的落地。它是一個英語頻道,它不會跟國內的頻道來競爭。它主要是在國外,包括北美、印度、馬來西亞、歐洲。您覺得這個數量是OK的嗎? |
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3055.62 |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
3071.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3089.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
adequate 我會督促供品質比較高喔有啊真的比較高品質比較高喔對你不覺得很偏頗嗎本期沒有時間就內容來跟你談但是對於社會的這個多樣性跟相對公共性非偏頗的這樣子的一個內容我覺得文化部應該更審慎的解釋那公視 |
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3092.572 |
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3118.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
你們應該更加的檢討本席就有看到許多內容那本席就感覺到很訝異有的時候我們都要深刻的去了解一下在國會裡面發生的劇本是不是公共電視的提供好,所以我先講一個數據所以你們37.3萬的這個訂閱者跟其他的無線電台也沒有差別雖然你說辛苦,品質又比較高但是本席看到內容有的時候還蠻令人詫異的 |
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3121.775 |
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3143.187 |
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所以這個部分本席希望你限期改善最後提醒昨天本席有提到的前瞻計畫那嘉義文創園區我們會繼續追你們這個美術館的庫房藝文體驗空間跟中小型劇場進度本席會在年底請文化部一定給出一個確切的時間跟進度謝謝謝謝委員關心這幾個題目我們都會繼續加速進行 |
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3151.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
3153.59 |
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主席謝謝,麻煩請我們李遠部長還有胡文輝董事長。好,我們李部長跟胡董事長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
3182.348 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
3200.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
來部長台灣Plus品質比較高你剛親口講的是不是沒有我是說公共電視整個集團他們在每個項目包括戲劇包括綜藝包括新聞他品質真的是 台灣Plus勒剛倩琦委員問的是台灣Plus吧 |
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3201.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
3201.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
三年了! |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
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還要鼓勵多久?我想我們人民的納稅前,立法院其實都對於行政部門想要讓世界聽到台灣的聲音,我們都很鼓勵。但重點是3年了投了58億了,結果世界有聽到台灣的聲音嗎?如果世界沒有聽到台灣的聲音,甚至聽到台灣可能表達錯誤的聲音或是偏薄的聲音,我們覺得更捏一把冷汗。 |
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3247.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
3265.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
十號您怎麼講川普是被定罪的重刑犯這一則新聞文化部長認為事情嚴重討論後下講。十五號說要在公視董事會提出檢討報告請教檢討報告文化部長看過了嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
3266.776 |
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3273.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
15號開完會說要提檢討報告,21號今天要來審文化部的預算。部長難道不認為說我們委員會針對這件事情關心嗎?到現在還沒有看到檢討報告。來,董事長為什麼會發生這樣的錯誤會讓文化部長認為說這事情事情嚴重? |
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3293.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3312.942 |
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我想這個事情當然是有它不獨當的地方不過我們還是要強調這個所謂的用語convicted felon這個字事實上全世界的公共不是你要跟你的文化部長你的長官強調你不用跟我強調今天是文化部長認為事情嚴重啊所以你們是不是把這個新聞下架了 |
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3313.886 |
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3342.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
我們在8號的時候我們就已經做了適當的處置是適當處理就是已經修改下架嘛那15號的時候你們做檢討報告嘛那檢討報告為什麼會出現這樣的問題現在國人是問的是說要讓世界聽到台灣的聲音但沒想到不只沒有聽到台灣我們2350萬人主流民意反而會讓大家覺得是說我們是不是認為就是這個就是我們官方的意見官方的表示 |
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3371.213 |
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我想我們第一個是獨立經營那並不是一個官方的媒體第二個部分就是說我們在處理上的確是當時的記者在處理過程中他以歷史的事實來做這樣的一個說明那我們認為他是個事實但是這樣的一個敘述脈絡並不妥當所以我們就做了一個暫行下架檢討報告在15號的董事會都經過討論之後我們也正式把這個部分都已經完成 |
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3393.585 |
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這個部分我們也會依照公文程序送給文化部。在這之前我們也已經把相關的決議也提送給文化部。所以檢討到最後檢討是檢討了誰?我們在處理上一共有六個決議。那這裡面當然包括可能委員比較關心的就是說我們在整個的這個作業上是不是新聞的報導對於公共價值的體認夠不夠。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3414.283 |
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adequate我們決定要加強教育訓練還有相關的準則的訂定那第二個部分您提到就是說有沒有懲戒有沒有相關的人員懲處有我們在執行長的部分因為並和其他的管理疏失我們做了記過的處分就是執行長替力將來對 |
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| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3417.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
三年了現在才有這個要檢視流程審稿的部分董事長我說實在你會聽到這些媒體朋友的耳裡會笑死 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
3446.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
3467.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
身為一個台灣Plus是中華民國政府出資的預算的一個媒體結果三年了發生這樣的新聞我們才講說現在來我們會去檢視流程以及審稿的一個過程這不是最基本的新聞ABC嗎這不是一開始在開台的時候就應該有的嗎這不是過去三年每一條新聞都應該要處理的嗎怎麼會因為現在才說我們來捕破網來部長 |
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3474.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3497.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我不知道說您有沒有看過台灣Plus從三年前到現在它的維基百科本席特別幫你整理了一下它維基百科裡面都是爭議事件好像沒有什麼讓我們很興奮的事件有包括有通共的爭議有收視率的低迷說當初夸口說要百萬人次下載現在只有15萬、16萬人次下載 |
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3500 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3524.436 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
adequates to less than two-thirds of the budget.還有電視台成率沒有法源依據以及不當稱呼美國總統候選人等等的爭議。還有電視台成率沒有法源依據以及不當稱呼美國總統候選人等等的爭議。Town Plus過去三年多我們真的不知道說它存在的能夠發生的基礎在哪裡。還有一直講說我的播放率或是點閱率我就請教我們審計部的資料以及立法院預算中心的資料都講是說有67%其實是亞洲人下載。 |
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3528.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3536.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
沒有細算是哪一個國家啦,但我真的很懷疑亞洲人下載到底除了我們台灣跟中華民國以外還有誰下載了?部長,你認為我們要繼續投入現在審預明年的預算,還有十幾億的預算,因為它是一個延續計畫,還要持續投入嗎? |
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| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3565.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
bicyn 其實他的預算大概每年8億左右所以剛剛一直講到58億其實是跟實際上他是連續3年4年從一開始開台比較多然後一直這樣下來總共58億但你現在延續期計畫你是從113年到117年總共40億編列28億左右啦他有些費用是 |
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3572.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
3575.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
閱讀委員會主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。閱讀委員會主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。閱讀委員會主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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3601.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
3617.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
一百萬個粉絲我都不好意思吐槽到底多少是殭屍粉絲你有沒有看到現在他一折貼文你講是FB嘛對不對FB一折貼文有幾個讚包括Youtube跟其他的那個我都不好意思吐槽不是部長 |
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3621.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
3646.033 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
講28億好像28億不是錢欸28億你是文化人過去還沒有擔任部長的時候文化人聽到不要說28億啊280萬中央願意補助的時候我們可能都感謝了一個劇場一個繪本一個作家一個表演有個200萬300萬可能他就是半年的一個收入跟半年的一個支持 |
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3647.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
3666.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
結果我們過去三年多四年不管是五十八億不管是四十億不管是二十八億計算基礎不同有些是直接投資有些是人事費用有些是紀錄片但不管怎麼樣這個計畫已經花了五六十一是不爭的事實那結果現在成效真的不髒啊我們所有文化部的同仁 |
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3672.306 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
3680.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
誰手機裡面現在有app是台灣plus過去一個禮拜裡面有開過一次的有的請舉手一下好嗎一位部長啞口無言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
3708.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
議員議員 |
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3708.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
3709.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
閱讀委員會主席 |
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3730.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
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那這個部分我們先是另外議題不過現在被我們委員踢爆是說要公視跟華視合資3000萬投資一個新創AI的活動公司那現在董事長華視公視董事長剛好又是同一位就你身邊後面這一位是那所以變成是公視要49%華視要51%那還不是都是一樣那我們想問文化部 |
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投資AI新創公司很好啊AI新創公司本席支持啊但有需要文化部來做嗎有需要公司來做有需要華視來做嗎那到底這家公司是要做什麼活動執行還是要安排位置部長你現在知道嗎 |
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議長,您認為合適嗎?在公事華事的本職本業 |
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愧損持續連連的情況突然間還要再拿3000萬再去投資一家新創公司跟本業沒有那麼直接關係而且這個新創公司聽起來是要執行活動他還不是要做內容影視產業 |
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您覺得合適嗎?我想請董事長回答好嗎?因為大家都很關心這個事情。來董事長簡短回答吧。我們沒有辦法內造化。 |
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不是啊 你看起來就是這樣子啊我們過去到現在你說要數位轉型本席沒有反對喔本席甚至還看了董事長最近還有到政大還是哪裡也有做相關的演講AI是浪潮本席同意但是重點在於是說你為什麼現在在也許明年你的任期到期 |
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在這個時候突然間通過而且15號的董事會除了討論所謂的檢討報告還通過公式投資管理辦法草案幫非公式營業項目的財務性投資開綠燈有沒有這回事有不過您簡化了這個情況所以變成是本來還有限制結果你現在再通過一個辦法通過了辦法之後你就可以養牛了基金管理辦法 |
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數位轉型本行沒有反對但是你喝一個鮮奶你要養一頭牛那這樣子文化部我們要不要改成農業部啊我們下面都是養牛就好啦來部長部長可以接受嗎一個公司因為他的虧損所以他就不希望他要繼續往前走我從來沒有反對請聽好董事長 |
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公視也好華視也好我是在野黨委員但我從來沒有希望華視公視持續虧損我從來沒有希望他停滯不前相反的我監督的力道越強越希望鞭策你們持續往前但重點現在在於是外界看到這個事情覺得很離譜覺得很莫名覺得跟你想要做的跟你真的實際做出來的狀況可能會背道而馳可能反而會更加虧損除非你已經有商業了 |
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除非你已經有商機了,否則以現在又百業缺工的情況下,你突然間要傳立一家公司,然後跟我們講是說這家公司未來盈虧要致富,因為要幫我們公司做內部的數位轉型,不覺得很奇怪嗎?來,董事長,我時間有限啦,因為下面還有委員要質詢一樣的議題,我最後一個問題請教部長就好,好不好?來,部長,最後。 |
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一分鐘現在有這個前委員也是歌壇大佬跳出來爆料講說當初有被承諾說要公視董事長華視董事長然後到最後又沒有那本席不禁想到因為剛剛發言的這位胡董事長他任期到明年現在11月突然間這個大佬跳出來講這個話是不是有暗示可能希望有爭取這個位置 |
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您認為公視董事長或華視董事長可以拿來做人事酬庸使用嗎? |
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議員議員議員 |
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對文化部來講這一點都沒辦法干預這個這我現在講的是實話喔因為我自己曾經做過華視我是自己考試進去的九個人考試我的經驗中我不覺得是外面想像中說我要給誰就給誰我謝謝你問這問題但是本期只一句話啦部長如果說你這樣講的話你就代表是說我們這個前委員他的爆料是無敵放矢他的爆料不是事實 |
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接下來我們有請柯志恩委員質詢。 |
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李卜長、胡董事長 |
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謝謝我今天看到李遠部長跟我們的胡董事長站在一起我真是不禁的非常的感慨過去呢一位就是我們的實務的工作者一位是我們美改的學者今天兩位都握有我們所謂的這個最大的一個權利我們就來看看到底過去你們的理論有沒有辦法化為實務然後成效到底是如何首先我先延續一下我想請問部長 |
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黨政軍退出媒體,目前為止你認為這還是美改團體的普世價值嗎? |
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當然是當年我們在2006年黨政軍特殊媒體兩家公媒用標說的方式出去...所以你認為現在這個價值還是存在你也遵守這樣的一個價值但是我們先來看看那剛剛孟愷委員也特別提到了這當然是因為余天我就直接講了嘛因為他說民進黨本來要給我公視但是華視但是呢他說連公視大家都會拿來酬庸 |
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閱讀者們的意見 |
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adequate to the current political debate, the current political debate |
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議長,你對公視有多大影響力?你對公視的所謂的獨立自主你覺得你管得到嗎? |
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閱讀委員會主席 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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11月15日公式開董事會這件事情你知道嗎?我不知道,我完全不會插手他們的董事會。因為有關投資這個部分,譬如說資產活化或者投資新公司,它報備給文化部,文化部有責任要去看。所以他們所做的決定你文化部要不要背書? |
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你要嚴審啊?你要背書吧?如果經過我們審查後當然就背書啊。好,那我看你有沒有審查嘛,我們來看看吧。我覺得很奇怪,這公館什麼時候變成一個秘密組織的?11月4號才召開所謂的創新創意的會議,而且當初所有的資料都被為機密,開完全部回收。11月10號的時候我有揭露,11月15號又開董事會,不僅很快速地通過投資管理辦法, |
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那有董監事呢他認為看到這項辦法他覺得需要花多一點時間來瞭解但是不被接受最後呢在沒有投票表決的狀況之下立刻通過而且被要求要簽下保密協議董監事也不跟對外發言有沒有這種事什麼時候搞得這麼黑箱了 |
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這個是不是可以請董事長親自回答一下。 |
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bicyn 其實長期因為華視的虧損。 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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這不是事實啊。你要不要聽聽我們董事長的回答?因為我們時常看到片面的說法。我可以講董事長,我們還是往下看喔。你看,你這個整個主要的議程嘛。而且呢,11月14號,華氏董事會通過幾個重要的議程。那它的目的來說,你預計,你先預編了明年我們2.3億的虧損。這是預編的,所以好像還沒有開始你就預編明年有虧損2.3億。而且你向銀行增立了3億的額度。 |
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况目前為止整個華氏的額度將達到44億,然後明年再建一億的現金流量,我們先往後看,把這個整個過程看完,然後你又提出了華氏的變革,要來處理土地,辦理優退,還有新創公司,所以從11月4號、11月14號到11月15號,快速通過要求保密回收資料列為機密,三分之二條款全部鬆綁,再往下看。 |
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然後呢這裡面為什麼我們大家對華視這麼樣子的覺得他是一個非常重要的議案因為土地開發我沒有說任何事情因為我只說他是何其敏感要活化要創新沒有問題但是我們還是要去問往下來看一下因為時間非常的有限公視創立了非常重要的把關的機制你要做任何的投資你必須要佔投資單位的三分之二的限制你在11月15號你把它解除 |
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所以說呢你對這樣的所謂的3000萬你要投資這個AI的這個這樣一個層面如果未來為什麼要做這樣的一個條款就是未來萬一倒閉虧損 |
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你到底是誰要來負責?所以我說,你要設立,你要轉型,你要做任何的事情,我只問部長,你認為不認為需要有一個救責條款?否則這都是我們人民的錢啊!都是我們人民的錢啊!而且你放手一搏,我只問,一個公共服務的價值的設立的宗旨在哪裡?然後呢,你剛講了一堆,你剛回到洪木凱問題回答到一半。 |
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我們也問啊,成立一個新的公司供廣集團目前有1200個員工,1200個員工找不到任何人可以來做你創新創業的這樣子的一個所謂的活動的執行,你需要額外再成立額外的公司來做這樣的事情嗎?這樣合理嗎?而且你告訴我們你三年之內可以這個損益虧損平衡,你相信嗎? |
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adequate to the market |
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所以你要一個這樣子的營運的部分裡面你要來成立一個新的3000萬的公司你說你可以說服我們嗎本業沒有辦法做好你覺得這可以說服我們嗎好吧那請胡董事長你可以一併來做說明 |
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我們很快因為從納入公廣集團以來我們的平均虧損是2.5億這幾年您列的虧損都是在平均虧損值以下但是我們的營運成本不斷增加以去年來講 |
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我們去年比前年的利息支出就增加了兩千多萬,兩千六百多萬。對,我們已經在縮短。對,所以我們要負責任的做這件事情。對,所以我們要負責任的做這件事情。 |
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况且在整個的過程當中到底我剛剛所提到的有需要這麼樣秘密有需要這麼黑箱有需要這麼樣的保密不准外洩嗎?我們所有的董事都開過專案會議而且各項的會議包括我們施董事的董董事的董董事說說當仁不讓這件事情當仁不讓我們一定要積極 |
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對不起,你要積極的推動的話,你也要說服我們立法院給你要不要給你這筆3000萬,因為到目前為止我還看不到出一個端倪,因為剛剛我所提出的問題你們還沒有辦法給我解決。最後我利用最短的時間來問一下文化部。那個我們小野部長,你知道台灣plus在第幾個頻道嗎? |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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大概200多吧?100多200多頂多一個台中的台中的給你個80幾的那這個部分是所有的委員都會看到的我還是特別強調你看公司的基金的預的收入那個短處從110年到現在不斷的短處是這麼樣的多往下還有最重要的是我還是回應一下真的你們所給我們的這個資訊當中然後呢告訴我們說臺灣這個東西跟臺灣的主流媒體我們的臺灣plus |
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Judge 1 主流國際媒體CNN、BBC、彭博半島電台等並列 |
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adequate to the list of the most famous TV stations worldwide. |
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閱讀中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案 |
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那你看你砸了一億多你觀看次數的比率還是以亞洲為主我們當以英文發音來去看的話其實美洲只占17.7更不要說是歐洲歐洲還有很多法語語系他們更不太看我只是呈現一個事實給你看再往下 |
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閱讀三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。閱讀三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。閱讀三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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蕭美玲議員 |
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外美林委員你好不要緊張好慢慢來好緊張超緊張喔不會啊我看您今天回答都蠻好的因為有很多反正就我都不知道了嘛怎麼辦喔但是呢剛剛也有委員建議要這個排個專報我來看看沒時間好不好這樣可以讓你好好的去了解一下喔 |
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那部長我想在日前我們有這個嫌犯在恐嚇文化部還有戲院、報社、媒體要求限期下架國有器官這部講述這個活摘器官的紀錄片那不然他就要什麼引爆炸彈或者是揚言殺害觀賞的這個民眾等等那這件事情文化部或者是您本身有沒有受到感覺到威脅感? |
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司法部長 |
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這件事情雖然文化部沒有說出什麼爆裂物也沒有嫌犯去得逞不過其實已經有影城電影院它基於安全考量所以它被迫停止播映那在觀賞的這個民眾其實也是會有心理的擔憂所以以後像這樣子我覺得對電影產業來講它也是有一些打擊的所以萬一以後再碰到類似的這些威脅這個恐怖的攻擊我們有什麼樣的應變機制就是報警嗎? |
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這次我們就是報警警政署,然後像這種東西我們完全不知道敵人在哪裡的狀態下,我們就更小心的處理。我建議啦,就是說這個除了報警之外,因為它有很多都是這個網路嘛,甚至於可能海外嘛,其實這個可能你還要配合速發部,那我覺得很想去想出一套辦法來。 |
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因為我們都知道一個模式開啟了以後可能就會有一些模仿者或效仿者對我們電影產業來講它都不是一件好事另外部長我想您很忙那我不知道最近有一部很紅的台劇叫影后您看過了嗎我剛好整集都看完了 |
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都看完了?好不好看?非常好看!非常好看喔!好!就是因為它很紅喔!所以它也在我們國際影音串流平台這個Netflix的一上架就衝上了十大熱門排行榜第一喔!基本很想看但是時代可能秉林還忙到現在還沒有辦法看喔!那常常替人家在口述一直想去看 |
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但是我們發現結果平台業者在這個熱潮的當中竟然無預警漲價而且漲幅高達了18%那我們國內有許多的製作人也看不下去了紛紛出聲說你要漲價至少也要來協助台灣影視成長所以也有製作人呼喊政府應該要出手所以文化部部長你本身怎麼看這件事? |
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其實我最近才剛約了所有台灣的OTT平台的包括國外的國內的來一起聊那我們就在我們的這個立場來講我們編預算充實我們自己的影視內容這件事情已經開始做了因為我們只有壯大自己影視內容我們才有跟人家談條件的那個那個能力另外呢我們能做的就是去壯大我們台灣本身幾個電信業的這個自己的OTT那壯大的方式不是 |
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其實歐盟在2018年就已經通過視聽媒體服務指令 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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權責影響文化部 |
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所以我覺得站在文化部的立場其實我覺得要更積極一點那你看我們在2022年2月我們看到我舉個例子我想部長也許知道法國政府跟國際平台業者這個Netflix達成了一個協議以每年最少4%在法國的營業額而且每年不得這個少於3000萬歐元也就是大概9億左右的台幣他必須要來投資在地營運的產市這樣的一個做法 |
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台灣未來部長有沒有想要來比照我們來跟平台的業者來談? |
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其實關於這點我其實就是在前兩天跟所有平台業者聊過他認為說就算你補貼你用補貼給我強迫我用你們台灣的這個內容你還會髒到我的平寬我不見得要像這樣的話我講得出來的話就更刺激我說我們唯有繼續投資我們的內容我們只有內容夠強我們才能夠有談判條件否則我們任何的限制跟補助 |
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bicycliffe 只要花更多錢。 |
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其實我不知道您有沒有印象其實您第一次來立法院本席那時候就有質詢過您那您那時候有講到說你要爭取國發基金100億來做國內的大串流平台那這一點現在的進度是怎麼樣好謝謝你問這個問題其實我們本身國發基金要動用它 |
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閱讀委員會主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案 |
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bicyn 中華電信可不可以扮演一個國際的一個OTD頻道那麼它就是一個更大的議題我當然希望台灣有能力有一個自主的國際頻道好部長那我想啦就是說我們有很多的這個遠大的計畫跟目標喔那我們要發展我們自己的影音平台喔可是我們來看到 |
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就是一個月吧?就在您規定的一個月內?我本來為什麼我上面寫一個月卻沒有說一個月我實在很擔心一個月對您來說這個時間是不夠但是如果能夠一個月的話那我們就靜待您一個月之內幫我報告我們市長說要兩個月 |
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接下來我想要講一個非常重要的議題,我也是有請我們公視的胡董事長。 |
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我們還是來提 我想還是先部長我們現在台灣Plus其實今天大家有提到在美國總統大選的相關報導中那我們直指美國總統候選人川普是被定罪的重罪犯部長您當下覺得很嚴重對不對 |
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閱讀官方報道指公視發表聲明確實不妥,因此下架。 |
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adequate to the general election. |
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我看今天你本來要回答那個委員但他們沒有給你時間喔您的意思是發聲明是說因為檢討之後你是參考全球公共媒體的做法比如說英國的公視BBC阿加拿大公視CBC阿澳洲公視ABC阿等等啦就這個描述詞你認為是全球公共媒體普遍使用沒有問題嘛對不對部長您認同這樣的說法嗎 |
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單獨這個名詞是ok的啊不是我的意思是說這是那個台灣普拉斯發的聲明你同意他這樣的聲明嗎?我同意啊因為他們經過分身我今天要提醒一下就是說雖然你有這樣的一個說法但是我們要去看以上這些國家的外交處境跟外交困境跟台灣是一樣的嗎?當然不一樣所以我要提醒一下這種說法其實不太好那接下來我再想請教一下我們那個徐執行長今天有來嗎?有來 |
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為什麼公視在董事會開會之前去發這個聲明那你絲毫不覺得這個報導有不妥之處那為什麼在11月15號我們要自行處分 |
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報告委員,因為這整個在編輯流程雖然新聞部有一定的規範,但是新聞部的主管在督導上面不周,我自己也要負起這個責任。督導不周?可是你又覺得這報導不妥,何來的督導不周?主要是在文字雖然不妥,但是在前後論述上所有記者在做連線報導的時候應該要講得更精確一點,這是我們還比較不足的地方。 |
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所以其實這樣的說法還是不妥但是胡董事長我再請教你一下11月15號公視給執行長寄過處分理由是什麼? |
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謝謝董事長,我想我以上為什麼這樣問,就是說這件整件事情前後矛盾,部長其實就已經覺得這個很嚴重了,那你們一開始也發表聲明說不妥, |
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這已經不是在台灣自己國內就隨便講講就算了所以這也要更嚴謹那接下來我想特別再講一下我想根據統計111年的6月到112年的6月我們過去說要百萬人次下載可是我們看到這段期間APP下載的目標我們說是24萬次那實際下載是15萬只有完成63%112年7月 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬 |
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台灣Plus News 34萬可是呢每一篇的按讚數只有個位數多的大概100多這是一個很詭異的一個狀態啦所以為什麼大家懷疑說這個追蹤數怎麼來的我想不管是我們今天目標值沒有達到我們的在各社群媒體上面也是沒有達標我們再來看現在我們總匡列的經費110年到113年58億當然文化部幾乎每年都要編這個10億去補助台灣Plus |
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委員會長 |
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好,沒問題。好,謝謝文武也。 |
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好,接下來我們有請葉元之委員質詢。馬上請部長謝謝。好,李部長。 |
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部長好,那個一樣,當初民進黨政府說要成立台灣Plus,4年編58億,說要打造跟BBC還有NHK一樣的這種公營的平台,那到目前為止部長你自己覺得效果有達到嗎?我們現在有像BBC跟NHK一樣那麼厲害嗎? |
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五十八億不夠要五百八十億才做是不是?當然不是當然不是因為當初也是你們民進黨政府講說要做這個事嗎? |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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觀眾謙虛 |
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所以目標可以亂定喔? |
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所以我今天可以隨便喊一個一百萬然後做不到之後我就下修現在下修到當初快五分之一了耶那以後民進黨政府講的話我們都不相信啊跟我們要錢說要做到什麼地方然後反正最後做不到我再下修目標還可以這樣我就隨便掰理由就好了啊我們有增列其他新的規管新指標不是啦因為你那個時候跟大家講說為什麼要那麼多錢嘛因為我要做到一百萬下載量是你們講的嘛 |
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現在就沒有做到嘛沒有做到嘛我沒有在那個時候服務這件事你沒有服務那你上來講幹嘛你代表政府在那邊講啊沒有每個人如果推給前朝就好了啦那推就好了啦第一個我不能接受是說花這麼多錢目標達不到然後我們用下修目標的方式來提高那個達成率而且你們下修目標之後達成率都只有七成而已 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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報告委員這兩億是從包括現在有社群平台像是YouTube、X、Twitter或者是這個MSN等等經過他們各自所提供的後台數字所加總還有我們是你們加總的是不是對那因為各後台所計算的基礎不同有些只能提供這個來源的人數有些不提供背景所以我們把整個點擊觀看的次數加總而得的這個所以你覺得兩億很棒是不是沒有還要繼續努力兩億也可以灌水啦沒有我們我們來看一下我們來看一下Town Plus我拿到的資料好不好 |
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大概六成以上都是菲律賓人在看啊。我請教一下為什麼菲律賓人特別喜歡台灣Plus?因為今年上半年有很多南海議題我們做了相關報導跟論壇剛好有跟菲律賓人有關係所以是菲律賓為主回大中台灣Plus是菲律賓為大中我們講台灣跟整個亞洲的題目不好意思喔當初台灣Plus在設定的時候目標對象是誰? |
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是誰?是全世界的觀眾。全世界的觀眾以哪裡為主?全世界的觀眾都會是我們主要的企業。以北美為主。北美是我們主要的企業。你看一下好不好,除了北美,然後今年把新加坡加進來了,目標市場,要不要念一下,北美與新加坡。報告委員,就是2023年那一年的設定目標先從北美跟新加坡。對,所以你們每一年你們就是根據你們就是根據你們實際上狀況調整嘛。 |
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對不對本來APP100萬做不到改成兩層然後呢目標市場本來設定北美跟新加坡然後因為做不到那我們就改成菲律賓話都是你們在講啦今天如果說你只有花100萬我相信大家也不會來這邊監督啦你花的是幾十億欸幾十億然後你拿到這樣的效果你還在那邊沾沾自喜覺得自己很棒那接下來還要花多少錢要不要100億要不要200億 |
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請你們檢討改進好不好不要還在那邊沾沾自喜覺得自己已經很棒了請教一下你們說川普是一個被定罪的重刑犯對吧 |
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是在這個選舉後以這個然後後來那個新聞下架了嘛因為在記者描述上我們覺得需要調整可以改進對所以你們下架了因為你們按照你們的說法是因為那個是語意的問題不應該在當選的那一天講說最後美國人選擇了一個重刑犯你覺得這樣語意不妥所以你把他下架了對吧 |
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不是,那個文字本身是各大公共媒體都在用的,就是說在記者報導論述的前後我們覺得可以更好...對嘛,就是語意嘛,前後文語意嘛。對嘛,但是你們不認為說報導川普是一個重刑犯有問題,因為他是一個客觀的描述嘛。所以,實際上現在在台灣Plus的新聞裡面還有非常多則的報導是描述川普為一個重刑犯,因為我也去看過了。但是這一點你們認為是OK的,因為你們...等一下,我還沒有問問題。 |
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因為你們認為說川普他就是一個重刑犯啊講他是重刑犯有錯嗎所以我看到你們現在網站上還有一則新聞他就是講說川普的支持者在海湖山莊幫他慶祝的時候這個很高興因為川普呢重版白宮而且川普他是一個重刑犯你們認為這OK的因為那個是事實的描述對吧因為後來你們發新聞稿也是這樣回應的嘛 |
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為什麼在你們台灣Plus的新聞裡面這麼喜歡講到川普是一個重刑犯?他沒有別的形容詞了嗎? |
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今天李遠部長也在旁邊李遠部長他我也可以有很多形容詞來形容他東去幽默的一個作家我們的文化部長或者是說他是以前台北市長柯文哲競選總部總幹事 |
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然後呢每一次我只要講到李遠部長的時候我就一直講李遠部長來了他是柯文哲的總幹事喔李遠部長如何如何他是柯文哲總幹事我就一直強化他是柯文哲總幹事這件事情我有沒有錯沒有因為我是客觀性的描述但是為什麼我故意就這樣一直講這件事情一直講這件事情如果今天李遠部長在那邊他會覺得說欸等一下我還沒有問問題 |
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議員議員議員議員議員 |
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新聞是他支持者在海湖山莊幫他慶功你還要去講說他這個重刑犯你要講多久你們才高興我跟你講啦台灣你們還不認錯那沒有關係嘛台灣plus就是我們外交人員的豬隊友因為我們台美外交官這麼認真在拓展外交關係我們的這個台灣plus的經營者覺得我就是客觀描述有錯嗎 |
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你就繼續這樣講啦,繼續這樣講啦。所以我覺得台灣PASS如果要這樣啦,成效不髒,就算了。我們做很多事情是先搶求不傷身體,再搶求效果。沒有效果也就罷了,錢又花了。還要當我們台美關心的豬隊友,那你就繼續,你就繼續。接下來喔,我想問部長,台灣PASS花了這麼多錢, |
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我認為錢花下去要有效果本業要先做好再想其他的剛剛也有委員在關心我們現在公視跟華視要出3000萬成立一個AI創新公司對不對對吧他是一個新創科技公司請問一下在公視法裡面哪一條是說公視可以有成立這樣的新公司是哪一條 |
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投資他事業那也要業務需要進行投資啊? |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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adequate to the current state of the government. |
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你知不知道現在公視在進行這種會議的時候全部要求董監事一定要簽保密協議我們現在在立法院質詢都可以公開直播讓全民來看了為什麼公視花人民的納稅錢在進行投資的時候要求董監事一定要保密協議然後不能夠讓人家監督為什麼為什麼要搞黑箱作業 |
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部長我覺得他從以前到現在都是要簽個保密並不是黑箱是因為那部長你認為公視跟華視要成立創新投資公司應不應該要受到監督應不應該當然是啊那請把開會的資料公開好不好保密協議也公開我不知道這有什麼保密的必要啊你如果人員的薪水各自要保密啊你現在公視進行投資都要保密這是為什麼 |
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怎麼可以公開?通過之後應該可以公開現在我們就要監督啦部長現在你知道大家擔心什麼事嗎?大家現在擔心的是說3000萬第一年1000萬轉給不到哪一家公司第二年1000萬轉給不到哪一家公司第三年1000萬不知道轉給哪一家公司3000萬就沒啦然後別人賺的飽飽啊 |
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然後完全不能夠監督欸這個委員我跟您報告這種事情不會發生再多那是你在講啊如果說你講的都是事實的話那台灣plus當初設定APP100萬為什麼現在變了20萬你們都是永遠在滾動式調整啊永遠都是時空環境變了所以大家才要事前先督嘛我現在就問了可不可以公開啊 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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我同意公開公開是不是把所有這個投資比如說投資目的然後未來的營運計畫你最後要怎麼做怎麼賺錢全部公開讓大家來看否則的話連這個東西都要搞黑箱這個我覺得這個大家是不能接受的啦不然你同意吧 |
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不是我其實不是黑箱因為也有蠻多企業家寫信給我希望我鼓勵這個事情因為華氏的虧損一直沒有辦法停止不是部長華氏的虧損是你要把本業弄好華氏的虧損不是你不是你去成立一個AI創新公司靠AI來賺錢不然你後面那個董事長去AI公司當董事長不要來做公廣的董事長公廣的主要目的要賺錢是要把你的戲劇做好 |
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瓜哥:「華視已經做得比過去好捏。」瓜哥:「那所以是因為沒有AI所以沒辦法賺錢嗎?」瓜哥:「你這個根屬問題根本搞錯了嘛。」瓜哥:「它這個推損有慢慢降低。」瓜哥:「因為我自己來自華視,我覺得華視真的是一個悲劇開始。」瓜哥:「所有員工都受害,經過努力了18年。」 |
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慢慢慢慢有一點點站起來了所以請委員...不是,部長如果說你在本業上面你需要經濟我們都支持現在的問題是你說華社虧損我要靠成立一個AI投資公司來賺錢而且3000萬我聽起來我覺得很傻眼我真的覺得非常傻眼而且這個董事長據說是明年5月就卸任了嘛對吧在卸任前半年進行這麼大的一個投資計畫 |
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邵俊仁議員 |
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那是你認識的啊?那是你認識的胡董嗎?跟大家認識的不見得同一個人啊?他是一個非常正直的人,所以委員您講的我可以幫他打保證啊。部長,因為胡董快要下台了,因為按照規定半年前要領選新的董事長,請問現在有新的董事長人選嗎? |
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您問的問題我們在進行中就是跟行政院去函給立法院要成立一個審議委員會按照政壇比例所以關於這個你就知道我有一個問題我也以為是這樣可是你的好朋友于天在受訪的時候 |
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議員 余天 我不認識 |
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議員會議員會議員會議員會議 |
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接下來我們有請陳秀寶委員質詢 |
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主席 |
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部長早安部長我們這個禮拜23日也就是本週六的晚上6點同時也是金馬獎頒獎典禮以及世界棒球賽四強賽的台日大戰的轉播時間在這個選擇呢我要先我要看哪一個哪一個轉播呢我是有點一直在考慮那部長你想好你要看哪一場轉播嗎 |
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這個部分呢我希望說因為現在很多人都在關心因為這個台日大戰大家都非常非常的關注那同時是不是也影響到了我們金馬獎的這個收視率我現在考一下部長你們知不知道當天晚上星期六的晚上我們金馬獎的這個頒獎的有什麼地方看直播什麼地方看轉播什麼管道我考一下您請知道的來回答 |
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台視的部分會做實況轉播。對,然後另外網路的部分也會有網路平台就做同步實現。網路的主要平台,你知道嗎?我給你30秒打廣告。LINE一下收視率。LINE、LINE TV、那個……YouTube、LINE TV、YouTube。 |
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我知道網路有直播也有轉播啦那我給你這30秒我覺得你沒有把握一下因為大家都很關心這個棒球的這個賽事同時呢其實今年的金馬獎是非常的精彩喔因為有史以來是最多應該是最多贏作品參加的有718部而且是最多非華語地區的電影工作者入圍的一季是非常有亮點非常的精彩 |
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所以我也希望說文化部這邊你們再積極的宣傳推廣一下希望我們的民眾可以同時兩邊都可以掌握訊息的來關心我們金馬獎的頒獎接下來我想請教我們部長根據國家語言發展報告指出臺語在30歲以下的族群能力日漸衰退部長看一下我這個表格 |
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閱讀、寫更不用說。在13歲到19歲聽的能力不到4成,說的能力也不到3成。所以顯見我們台語面臨這個傳承危機真的是不容忽視。尤其在報告裡面有指出其中7成的父母主要對父母的子女交談的語言是用華語。 |
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也就是說在這些子女長大之後本土語言使用者大概只剩下會堅持積極使用的那三成那對比剛才我提到這個數據也會發現其實我們台語的使用頻率跟台語的能力並沒有成正比意思就是說我們民眾其實對我們母語的意識是有提升的但是母語的能力是極速下滑的所以看完這些報告呢我不知道文化部對於針對這些問題有沒有制定相關的一些台語推廣的政策 |
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有,其實我來半年我們花很多力氣在研究那個臺語怎麼樣推廣我們現在想到一些非常具體的方法包括我們建立臺語家庭還有我們的一些各種頻道直接用臺語那我是不是請負責的次長來跟您講比較詳細次長你把這個資料給我辦公室我接受我現在現場質詢的時間好再來我請部長跟我看一下這個投影片我下一張投影片 |
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您看一下 你看 你看 懂不懂其實這是用台語寫的那本席發現 其實民眾對台語比較熟悉比較精通就是局限在聽跟講讀跟寫呢 跟要熟悉又是另外一個難度像我的台語算是上寫有練等欸但是本席要讀這邊報導也是有點困難我還要頓一下 又腦中必須去翻譯過表示說其實我們台語的推廣不夠全面我們缺乏讀跟寫的能力 |
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沒有文字的輔助跟推廣,其實台語的傳承的推廣是很有危機的。部長您有辦法把這個投影片上面的字直接翻成台語啊,唸出來嗎?哪一段?第一段就好了,第一句,第一段。第一段就是,人家電腦沒那麼多,想到的應該要想到的,是不是這一段? |
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第一句為了要給大家建立正正的國家議員學進發展文化部主管的國家議員發展會議在一定位區區論我意思就是說其實我們講跟聽其實沒有什麼問題的情況之下讀跟寫這個部分我們在文字的輔助上是不是我們還有很大很大要努力的空間 |
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| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
7182.361 |
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部長林勇看懂這篇報導他要表達的訴求,其實學者指出就是說國家語言發展中心主要是負責國家語言整體的研究保存以及政策等等的建議是很難專一的推廣單一個語言,就像台語相關的事務其實分散在教育部跟文化部,那在文化部這邊應該是在我們的出版司吧? |
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其實我們沒有專責的單位所以我們要專責的來推廣台語沒有一個專責的負責的單位其實就是分散在各部門的業務它很難的專一那所以說我一直很期待我們文化部可以成立一個台語的專責單位之前我在質詢的時候也請文化部來研議不知道現在有沒有研究出怎樣的一個成果有沒有一個進度 |
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7224.6 |
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我們其實已經送進一個國家語言研究發展中心設置條例已經送到立法院然後我們本身就您剛才沒有說錯我們就是一個出版人文室裡面的一個一兩個人在負責但是剛才講到台語的推廣不只是這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
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7226.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
閱讀委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
7264.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
所以在這個國家語言推廣中心裡面我們也就會有一個專責的一個部門一個單位來推做這些推廣的業務嗎?這個中心設置條例通過以後我們會才開始研究有什麼部門因為我們是文化部所以我們經常被要求包括客家客語啊或者是原住民語都會需要我們來一起來推動所以我們最近辦了很多場很多場的那個語言推廣 |
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adequate to the public, indigenous peoples, and indigenous languages, etc. |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
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7273.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
This is a very complex process, and we will do it carefully. |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
7304.997 |
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我真的非常希望說我們趕快加緊腳步我們來跟相關的學者來討論研議怎麼樣可以更積極的來辦理我們台語相關的推廣事務好那接下來呢要請教部長關於本席之前有詢問過這個文化幣向下延伸的這個事辦計畫我們在114年預計在13歲到15歲這個年齡階層每個人要發放600點的文化幣那請問對這個發放的這個方案具體的方案我們已經有研擬出來了嗎 |
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7331.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
7332.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
7353.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
對於這些年齡艱層的年輕人我們有沒有比較特定的優惠的方案那如何協助他們來領取是透過家長嗎還是透過怎樣的管道各種方式都有啊就是一種是原來他就手機一方面就是如果他沒有手機另外我們這個會推這個的最大目的就是家長一起跟他一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
7353.945 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
議員主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
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7372.413 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
現在已經到18000多家 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
7387.896 |
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7396.379 |
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這是說明的還是說明的對象還是已經招進來的?已經應該招進來因為這個文化部的效果非常好所以想要參加的那個廠商越來越多那因為剛才部長您有提到過對於這個防弊的措施就是這文化幣的轉賣轉讓的情況我們已經有這樣子的措施在眼裡也希望說這個我們要推廣這個文藝藝文活動我們也希望說更全面的讓我們的年輕人來參與 |
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| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
7420.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
bicycliffe 審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
7440.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
我們也希望說我們應該是每年的狀況來做滾動的檢討作為檢討的依據因為一年一年要進步一年一年我們範圍更多的時候我們可能發現的一些問題會更多這個部分也希望你們持續的來檢討相關的這些所以我們會做好謝謝謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
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7460.539 |
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文資局文化資產人才庫顯示傳統駕駛有950筆資料,修復工程工地負責人有1200筆。 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
閱讀委員會主管文化部主管委員會主管委員會主管委員會主管委員會主管委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
7500.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
7500.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
閱讀委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
7517.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
7544.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
有 這個問題的確是蠻嚴重如果吸引年輕人加入這個訓練行列然後願意投入這個工作本身就是一個其實有點困難因為他的工作方式什麼但這點我們的確一直在訓練還有包括他的執照他怎麼拿到這個執照可以在現場幫忙我們有一直往下不斷的修正這個而且已經開始做如果我們可以給你一份報告 |
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7544.798 |
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7552.964 |
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好,那這個部分再請部長給我一份報告。以上謝謝主席。好,謝謝陳秀寶委員。接下來我們有請葛如君委員質詢。謝謝主席,有請文化部李遠部長。好,有請李部長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
7572.029 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
7595.556 |
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委員好部長好今天的主題是文化部114年的預算案詢答我們都知道依據博物館法第9條博物館應該依據英本專業倫理確認文物標本藝術品等收藏品之全員及取得方式之合法性先請教一下部長據你所知博物館要合法取得藏品有哪幾種管道 |
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7616.932 |
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一方面是我們自己收購,一方面是別人捐贈。很好,謝謝部長。確實,一開始我們在這個相關的這個要點裡頭,那國立台灣歷史博物館整理得很好。它的藏品取得方式,第一個就是您提到的購買,第二個捐贈,再來轉移採集交換。接著請問部長,114年度文化部所屬的11個博物館和美術館當中, |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
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有沒有哪幾個有編列所謂的採買或購買收藏品的預算?應該都有吧應該都有編吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
7634.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
議員主席 |
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7655.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
7660.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
adequate to the current state of affairs in the United States. |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
7674.878 |
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7701.881 |
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因為我們總體預算不高所以在分配上像國立台灣博物館這種我們就編一些預算繼續購買那其他就使用原來我們購買的東西我想其實我們的這個質詢您的備詢其實有一個很好的這個互動的機制啦其實我們也在協作我們也幫您整理了其實近年來各個博物館購置產品的情況根據文化部提供給我們的資料這是歷史資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
7721.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
近3年來文化部所屬的11個博物館及美術館裏面居然有7間購買藏品。您剛剛所提到的第一個就提到的藏品增加的方法竟然是零件。兩年是零件的一共有8間。請問部長您了解博物館購藏文物掛零的原因嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
7723.24 |
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7740.024 |
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為什麼會這樣?因為掛鈴嘛!所以他們就乾脆就不編啦!他們就不編啦!因為你剛剛問的是線上購償。沒有沒有沒有,我現在在問的是實際,就全部就購償啦!是總購償喔!上面寫總購償喔! |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
7745.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
7748.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
所以部長我現在是在幫您抽絲剝繭就是說其實您一開始就是說購買產品是很重要的來源嘛那結果呢我們說有多少這個這個場館是有編列這個預算來購買然後呢我們得到的答案是有的沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
7762.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
閱讀檢查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
7788.408 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
7815.441 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
相關人士告訴我們答案是藏品太貴這只是一個部分博物館的預算有可能買不起但是這只是一部分現行文物、文化部所屬博物館的文物購藏程序太繁瑣這也是其中一個部分等到確認要買的時候藏品早就被人家買走我們來看一下文化部所屬博物館的購藏流程第一個你要先確認經費額度第二個我是很想朗讀但真的有點長但你大概可以理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
7830.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
當這些東西要有專家討論、審議、通過,動完的時候這個產品也輪不到你來買了。所以我想這種流程就導致我們整體展品購藏的機制。 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
7831.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
7855.408 |
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民存實亡。所以部長您要不要乾脆宣布啊,我們的預算就都不要來買了啦,都用捐的就好了,從此博物館產品的來源刪除,購買這個管道。這樣好嗎?為什麼不好?我來告訴,告訴,告訴您齁。首先啦齁,其實現在,現在呢,有非常多的新的專案,其中一個114年度的預算案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
7862.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
重建台灣史2.0社會發展計畫,編列了8000萬元要籌設國家級現代美術館。這8000萬裡面有沒有夠長的預算?難道我們國家級的現代美術館裡面的展品都要靠捐贈、都要靠轉移嗎?請部長說明,那如果我們過去是這樣的經歷,我們是這樣的一個習慣,國家美術館展品來源要如何規劃? |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
7884.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
7907.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
7909.117 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
7935.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
沒關係 如果有就提供出來那一千萬夠不夠我想這個也要評估一下這國家級嘛 對不對沒關係待會解釋我總體來講想要講就是說希望部長了解一下相關構藏的辦法是不是讓流程可以更加的激動與彈性否則我們歷史一直在演進巨輪一直在推結果我們現在的管藏是沒有流動的就是說沒有新的管藏進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
7936.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
7957.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
台灣我們這種對文化的學習其實受到影響了那當然您剛剛有提到線上沒錯阿巴手的這個藝術報告裡面就提到線上競標其實市場一直增加尤其在COVID-19之後那這一次呢我們其實也看到啦阿台配有跟像Artacy阿到舒富比阿其實都有合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
7968.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
所以我想線上購藏有沒有可能文化部也研議作為博物館購買藏品的方式之一你會節省掉很多開支這個有沒有可能來研議一下 |
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7970.144 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
7993.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
在這個之前我們完全沒有這個部分,我想我們來研究看看。對,因為你這樣人員可以減少去出訪,也可以透過網路的方式來增加館長。那提到就是說你如果有線上購買,其實現在也有線上展廳,我也必須要說有的博物館做得非常好,像是國立歷史博物館的360度的環景導覽就做得很棒。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
8010.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
但是呢有一些線上展覽則是從2021年以後就沒有更新那當然剛剛那也是啦有點可惜希望再給予鼓勵那新館長洪世祐館長剛剛上任期待可以重現這個線上展廳的這個建制甚至再更進一步啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
當然國立台灣史前博物館就稍微比較潦草除了文字簡介以外就沒有其他內容我們也期待蔡正良館長要拿出具體的作為我想都在現場我想我們是鼓勵不要讓這個線上布展來荒廢接下來我們審查114年度預算的時候各位博物館各個博物館只要有心去做這些線上的這個行為能夠 |
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| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
議員議員議員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
8101.849 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
那有十幾家公司得獎,但是我們追溯了一下發現,其實目前為止12個優秀得入選的提案裡面,真正被10件得到後續政府的合作也好,或推薦也好,或者把提案再擴大也好,只有兩件。 |
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8129.591 |
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所以我希望部長能不能我們給予新興藝術的創作者多一點關注投入資源持續追蹤他們的後續發展不要我們三億花掉了找到一些不錯的團隊跟人員結果我們沒有後續的福祉這部分部長可不可以來允諾一下好沒問題第二件事情真的是拜託部長我們一起努力這次年輕藝術家因為這個不幸出事的事件真的有非常多藝文圈的朋友感嘆 |
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文史藝術文化藝術工作者呢其實很多是採用短期工作契約自由接案或專案制的工作其實屬於非典型的工作者在不同的雇主之下呢其實是受雇的他沒有一個長期雇主他工作頻率跟收入的波動也很大其實他們很可能沒有辦法被提供這種一般性的健康檢查所以其實這個處事事件發生之後我其實也 |
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除了南郭以外我看到很多的藝文工作者說彼此提醒彼此要做健康檢查但是他們其實沒有這方面的幫助那當然他們還可能要次數監課啦接觸到一些粉塵等等犧牲健康作為藝術跟文化創作的代價這些創作者呢其實沒有雇主不能依法享有定期的健康檢查 |
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文化部作為創作者們的大家長應該要關注藝人工作者的健康權其實本席在今天上台質詢以前呢就已經和勞動部的職安署達成共識他們願意,真的很謝謝齁這個勞動部也有非常多的同仁還是很努力啦齁這個他們願意齁這個跟文化部衛福部一起來守護藝人工作者的健康本席能不能在此要求文化部、勞動部、衛福部共同會商 |
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我們一起研議出一個文化產業自營工作者在安全衛生防護與健康檢查的補助方案。我們能不能一起來照顧這些文化工作者的健康?能不能有部長的支持?我們這個其實已經在進行跟藝文工作者的這個相關職災保護等等。所以我自己本身也非常願意做這個事。 |
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好,我想如果有需要相關的數據到底有多少自營,其實真的比例很高,我們希望可以一起來關注他們的健康。好,謝謝,感謝部長,我們請努力。謝謝委員。好,謝謝葛如荊委員。接下來我們有請陳培韻委員質詢。好,謝謝主席,有請部長,謝謝。好,我們有請李部長。 |
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三位委員您好。 |
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adequate no more 擅自生成 AI 因為他們的聲音被放入語言模型當中訓練然後用這個聲音再產出新的內容對於這些聲優的粉絲們來說可能沒有辦法第一時間搞清楚到底這個聲音是真的聲優所發出來的還是透過 AI 合成那聲優們說聲音就是我們的維生工具也是聲優的人生寫照 |
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8341.448 |
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認為相關日本的政府必須有相關的態度相關的科技業者也必須要有態度我們來看下一個在動畫裡面呢一樣9萬張當中AI所產生的圖他們仔細的比對發現2500張有侵權而這只是比較可以明顯指出還有一些沒有辦法明確指出所以剛剛有聲音現在有圖畫我們來看還有沒有別的呢 |
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8345.009 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
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在文本當中在Amazon的相關的文章當中已經發現有一些作家發現他被出版了新書也就是說部長您可能某一天就會在博客來上看到您被出版了一本新書但還可能是AI寫成的這個現象已經在美國發生了有些作家也開始表示他們不想他們的作品被拿來訓用AI來下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
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8392.106 |
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相關的新聞一樣有類似的問題有AI侵權的訴訟WSJ母公司跟紐約時報紐約郵報做著一個訴訟那他們是說AI模型用了他們的新聞去回答用戶所提出來的問題再產生出新的內容但是他們在用這些新聞其實是受到版權保護的但是AI產業依然沒有回應好下一張 |
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8413.232 |
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我想問部長,部長我剛舉了這麼多的例子,你自己怎麼看待這件事情?因為我們現在是AI創新內閣,但我認為文化部在這件事情上目前為止從剛剛業務報告裡面我整本都看完了,我其實也沒有看到文化部在這件事情上看起來有做任何的動作或是有任何的研究機制。我想問部長你這邊怎麼看? |
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其實我們有在做我們最近收集那個歐盟、美國、日本、韓國法令在今年9月已經完成一個那個完成一個指引然後在12月會辦市場閉門式的焦點座談向文化業者學者跟他們以他們的意見來修正預定在2025年的4月完成指引修正稿 |
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8440.265 |
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| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
proporting to the implementation of the implementation of the implementation of the implementation of the implementation of |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
8456.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
8463.928 |
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adequate to a good way but the thing can't let a job I can't help you guys you can't help you can't help you. |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
8501.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
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8501.776 |
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8527.781 |
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我們非常期待看到後續的會議所以我這邊的協助我這邊的建議就是相關的AI內容我認為文化部必須要積極的協助相關文化產業業者所有的工作那當然對於有侵權的可能性我認為你們還必須要跟跨部會那因為剛剛部長已經說要召開會議了所以我們非常期待看到後續的發展好我們來看下一個關於小公事的部分這邊是不是可以請公共電視胡董事長謝謝 |
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請互動。 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
8535.95 |
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董事長早安委員好好 老師早去年使部長要說成立小公視我們非常期待我們希望看到小公視我們可以讓台灣自己的兒少節目支持率提高那在提高節目的同時也增加節目的品質同時讓產業真的有人才培育可以因此而產生所以大家非常期待立法院在預算上也相當的支持可是董事長我想跟你討論我們看到的一些問題因為在你的新聞稿說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
林瓊芬主任她說希望藉由這一次增加預算跟成立小公司的機會把過去幾年沒有做到的事情一起做好包含我剛剛說的資金的部分然後製作水準的部分還有人才培育的部分如果這是大家共同的期待我們來看一下目前呢小公司所開出來這個標案的規格裡面一檔節目他們所拿到的成本小公司的要求是相關的團隊除了製作節目之外有人事費用這些我已經列出來了 |
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他們還要自己做粉絲專業的行銷 更不要講可能還有YouTube短影音還有相關的製作費會有不僅場地主題曲版權的問題甚至節目的IP會被公視拿走但是我知道有個團隊因為自己反映過後還是留在自己團隊但是沒有反映的團隊IP就被拿走了我講了這麼多要做這麼多事情花這麼多錢可是我們來看小公視給製作單位多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
8640.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
8640.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
科普兒少節目30分鐘一集要做90集總共2520萬所以一集是28萬下面新創知識節目26集1040萬所以一集是40萬我想要問董事長不管是28萬、40萬還是60萬你覺得回到我剛剛前面那兩頁來麻煩幫我回到前面那兩頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
8661.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
8661.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
閱讀檔案 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
8677.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
adequate budget for the new program. |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
8699.01 |
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| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
為什麼我這麼說?來看一下下一頁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
adequacy在2017就意識到需要更多的經費在製作英國本地的小孩要看的節目。那他們的預算我們當然沒有辦法比可是我要問的是當時立法院支持小公司的預算並不是要給小公司做更多的promote或是增加更多的人力或者是我們擔心過往公司人力的問題再次在小公司產生所以我們大力支持但是我現在光是從 |
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謝謝委員的關心因為細節當然我不是很了解不過就我原則性的政策可以跟委員做個說明基本上我們好像在整個兒少節目的預算分配上有的節目預算分配的比較高有的節目預算分配的比較一般那主要的考慮是希望發展不同類型的 |
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這個我完全認同所以我剛剛舉了四檔不同的節目我並不想把所有節目列出來做比較因為每一個製作單位都有各自其專長跟熱情但我們不希望連這些要幫我們台灣的小孩做節目的人還要賣肝賣熱情賣愛但是是國家對不起他們甚至他們也不想再投入相關產業或者是這樣的預算可能只能拐騙到某一些自己以為可以做兒少節目的人然後拿著兒少兩個字就來騙這個預算 |
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我不希望下一次立法院在談小公司的預算的時候我們看到的是那樣的節目所以我要拜託董事長我們當然沒有辦法針對每一檔節目但是我認為我們應該要積極盤點因為已經做這麼多節目出來在年度預算我們也都看見了我們真的看到小公司很努力但是會不會連小公司裡面自己的行政人力資源其實也不足 |
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所以他們在跟外面團隊的合作的時候其實可能也搞不清楚外面團隊現在到底狀況是什麼也是就是說如果兩端資源都不足那我們要不要重新來盤點這個預算使用的問題好嗎好那我下一頁就積極的要求製作而上節目我認為文化部跟公共電視都必須要給予更多的支持所以未來在徵案的時候 |
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adequate budget for public television and small companies |
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部長我想要跟你們說一下在文化部的所有業務裡面都會針對兒少設計很多政策跟資源我們來看一下 |
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從管所的使用開始從閱讀推廣到文化幣到劇場我知道部長您上任之後你非常關心兒少我也非常感謝部長可是呢我想跟部長說在文化部有這麼多場館的情況下還有這麼多藝文活動下業可是我們竟然到現在都沒有兒少諮詢代表的機制 |
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| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
我認為這個對文化部來說是相當的諷刺跟荒謬我們來看一下在2021年全國文化會議的時候當時就有人問文化部說故宮在2019年甄選過青年代表文化部有沒有考慮同樣在美術館博物館等機關有類似的模式當時還有人說環保署成立青年跟諮詢小組文化部要不要來跟進 |
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| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
當時的文化部次長蕭中皇也就是現在故宮的院長他說可以來思考這是2021年那直到現在2024年我們來看一下其實行政院早就頒布中央主管機關推動兒少參與國家法治跟決策過程建議做法所以文化部你們其實是有相關指引可以做的那我不知道為什麼遲遲到現在我們都看不到文化部有更積極在這件事情上推進 |
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但是如果文化部狹下有這麼多的業務,包括我們剛談的小公事、文化幣、閱讀推廣,還有文策院想要投資的節目,每一個部門的業務都有兒少的角色在裡面,為什麼我們可以沒有兒少諮詢代表? |
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| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
9022.435 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
謝謝委員問的問題我們在2024年有一個文化平權推動會報裡面通過衛福部的邀請有兩位兒少代表這個這個會報推動完之後我想我們下一步就開始會朝著您剛才講這個事實上我們雖然沒有這樣一個諮詢機制但是我們做的每件事情都會透過兒少 |
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| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
9046.01 |
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adequate跟兒童面對面,譬如說國家...部長,我們要說實話,所有包含您要推動的繪本獎勵1800萬這件事情,我都很好奇,我知道你們有召開宣刊專家會議,我就以我最熟悉的繪本來說,如果我們有兒少機制,兒少諮詢委員會,你去問問現在的小孩想看的書跟大人想買的書根本就是兩件事情,所有博客來上暢銷排行榜 |
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| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
9076.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
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9077.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
9104.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
如果我們所有的部會都必須要面對兒少,我認為文化部應該要更積極地組成兒少相關代表會議。那你們絕對有機制可以做,我這邊已經提供給你們了。請告訴我你們多久以內可以完成相關的規劃報告?三個月。好,三個月。那我們就期待看到更積極的做法,不要再只是透過衛福部、兒少資料庫,好嗎?好,謝謝部長,謝謝主席。好,謝謝陳培宇委員。接下來我們有請林一錦委員質詢。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
李委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
首先在進入主題之前要恭喜剛半個小時之前得知的消息就是我們台灣楊雙子他的台灣漫遊錄獲得美國國家圖書館的翻譯組的大獎成為台灣文學史上的頭藝人喔楊雙子剛用中文發表感言的時候他說書寫是為了回答台灣人是什麼人很感動 |
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在明年度的文化部的預算編列中本席有三大核心關懷第一個就是數位文史資料庫的建置第二個是推動熱身登錄世界遺產第三個是投資文化創意產業我們先來談數位文史資料庫的建置 |
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我想這個是台灣文化工作的基本功,它很辛苦,很複雜,那也沒有立即可見的成效,可是這種基礎硬底子我看是絕對少不了。那實際上我覺得文化部一直都有在做文史資料的收集跟建置, |
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只不過也同樣也一直以來都沒有好好規劃如何讓使用者有效的運用這些資料所以簡單來講文化部確實有在做資料的收集但有收集卻沒有系統這相當可惜喔那除了這個之外透過我們重建台灣藝術史計畫推動的這個文史資料庫的建置我們出現了一些 |
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adequate to the needs of the public sector and the community. |
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閱讀畫面這個網站喔他連台灣的重要作家的重要作品都查不到資料那所謂的文化文學的素材產生器也意義不明所以我覺得花費公帑可是交出這樣的工作成果我認為有什麼樣的理由在大眾眼中看來就覺得其實文化部的形象也好或文學館的形象也好我就是受到一些傷害那同時我覺得也讓人家質疑說文化部到底 |
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你們是不是做一趴或做一百趴都可以宣稱說我們有在做這個資料庫的建制所以想要請教部長的是說未來你是不是可以來努力做到本席要倡議的三大改革第一個就是來開放典藏資料高階的圖檔第二個我們要完整提供全民無償利用國家編轉的這個文史資料與文學作品第三個是系統化各個資料庫部長你的看法 |
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關於高階圖檔這個我待會請文學館館長跟您回答您剛才講的幾個問題我都承認因為當年我們是2019年用那個CHATGDP的2.0已經沒有辦法去符合現代運用者AI技術的期望那剛剛您講這幾點我想我們已經在開始改進我想請文學館館長跟您報告我們進度好嗎? |
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委員好有關那個委員所提到的相關資料庫的部分我們已經在修正了其他的部分的話我們會就也全面的在就程式跟資料面的部分在全面的去做檢視那有關高階圖檔的這個部分的話因為台文館的可能會涉及當代作家的一個著作權那如果有著作權沒有疑問的這個部分那我們 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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議員議員議員 |
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這是哪門子的世界遺產?作為我國我們文化主管機關文化部為什麼可以一方面說樂生是世界遺產的這個潛力點那一方面又放任這樣的潛力點受到這樣的破壞而且近乎與所謂地區的居民形成我覺得是物理上的嚴重隔離那先請教陳局長好了 |
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請問這樣的懸空路橋的所在地原貌到底是什麼樣子?樂森的願民們期待是應該有什麼樣的復原?我想你很清楚,請你簡單回答。 |
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律師內閣委員會是文化景觀,有47棟建築物是文資身份,是歷史建築。世界遺產的潛力點除了建物及整體景觀之外,歷史的脈絡內容是它的重點。當然,可是它的入口意象, |
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閱名門希望的入口意向當然絕對不是把樂生搞得像現在面目全非的這種懸空入橋而是希望的是緩波大平台 |
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我想局長你知道衛福部如何處理這個緩波大平台嗎?你知道嗎?就是說他們是說這個新莊機場已經啟用所以他沒有採納這個緩波大平台這個空間那可是這種說法認真講是這樣當然是基於事實或者是說還是基於對文化資產的無知這我倒是很納悶喔 |
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那好,那可是這是衛福部的看法可是我覺得你身為一個文資管理機關我覺得我們應該要同意當然我們前提是同意樂生他是世界遺產的前立點可是在 |
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bicyn 作為你的角色在哪裡我覺得這個很重要事實上機場是已經啟用可是在價值面身為文化部我覺得還是要去努力去協調可行的文資修復方案不是嗎 |
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所以依據文資保存法,如果地方主管機關有所不為而不作為,中央其實是可以介入來處理的。所以要請教的是說,如果衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府捷運局,集體對這個世界遺產潛力點的文資價值展現無知,那我覺得你們真的不該出手,或者你們要繼續怠惰下去嗎?局長。 |
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因為衛福部現在有成立樂生園區整體發展計畫的督導小組還有推動小組我們文化部文資局每一次會議都有去所有的相關的修繕或者是相關的整建事項也都經過了台北市政府新北市政府的文資審議委員會 |
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閱讀委員會審議通過,不至於破壞文化景觀或歷史建築情勢。 |
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我是這樣建議啦就是說我們可不可以即刻來展開所謂的多方的對談就是說跟願名也好或者跟國際愛麗亞協會的台灣分會或者青年的樂生聯盟台灣蠻野新竹生態協會以及我們衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府協議局等等 |
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我們是不是來共同來對於這個所謂的世界遺產潛力點有一些共識然後來攜手來推動緩破大平安這個案的執行。 |
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局長您的看法呢?我想我們文化部文資局非常願意也非常樂意來協調這個裡面的文資主管機關新北市政府還有這個整個熱身發展計畫的管理機關就是衛福部我們很樂意來協調。那請你一定要盡全力好不好? |
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最後我想要談到文化創意產業的投資我們被譽為中國首款的3A大作黑神話悟空這個一直是很多人關注的話題這個禮拜也入圍了世界年度的最佳遊戲 |
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很多人的問題可能都問錯重點根本不是至於說台灣為什麼沒有而是我們的遊戲產業到底長了什麼樣子那文策院又有什麼樣的有效投資策略 |
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那我想我們知道我們台灣的獨立遊戲的投資者都是屬於小公司那在開放遊戲的過程中資金規模可能沒有有些限制那也就是說我們如何協調有意願的所謂的獨立遊戲開發業者我們再來整併把他的資本規模擴大那怎麼引進大企業跟文策院來合作我想這還是可行的解決方案 |
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至於現在掛牌上市的遊戲公司,我想往往傾向風險,代理的風險比較小,或者他已經獲得國外市場的認可的這些海外遊戲。如何將所謂的大型的遊戲公司,把投資標的轉向來投資國內的國產遊戲,我想這就是您的重責大任,您的看法呢? |
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謝謝委員講這一題事實上我自己個人其實過去在遊戲產業工作過20幾年了所以對遊戲業的發展雖然相當清楚大型的上市櫃遊戲公司因為國發基金目前是無法直接投入到公司的股權投資另外一方面是大型上市櫃公司因為想要避免風險 |
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adequate to the total revenue of 90% of the game. |
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目前已經有大概五、六家小型獨立遊戲公司會透過我們的資金整合以及我們會媒合一個大型的國際的一個遊戲平台與他們合資希望他們直接透過我們的資金對接到國際平台然後他們也有能力應用比較大的資金去做比較大型的遊戲另外台灣科技公司這個營收也高有兩家台灣遊戲公司對於做電競的周邊一年營收有一兩千億在全球 |
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我們覺得他們不要只做硬體希望他們做軟體那這兩家因為已經有媒體接載過了所以我也可以講就是華碩跟威剛那目前兩家公司也跟我們正在進行合組大型公司跟基金來做ACG相關的投資以上跟委員報告 |
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感謝您提到電競,因為運動部成立建在選上,所以我想未來這個電競其實是很重要的一環,所以我想這個媒合要有賴您文策院要努力,說讓台灣也能看見這個遊戲的市場,那這一點再請文策院這邊努力。謝謝委員。好,謝謝。好,謝謝林經委員。部長請回。 |
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接下來我們有請郭育琴委員質詢。謝謝主席。有請李媛部長。有請李部長。 |
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國委員好部長早安台灣Plus的問題我相信前面應該大家都已經討論很多了爭議不斷那我想台灣Plus的精神是Bring Taiwan to the World就是希望把台灣帶給世界但是其實在台灣帶給世界的時候最近的這些爭議從10月17號美國導演他特別在台灣Undaunted這個節目當中他說 |
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導演表示這是他自己的口誤,那麼在事後也跟我們溝通過在做更好的修正以後才會再上架,那目前這個內容他不會是原來那個台灣保险,他可能用台灣閩南跨府台語這樣的方式來呈現,請諮詢專家的意見。 |
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好那當然這個爭議不只這一樁還包含我們看得到的就是另外一個節目這個也是在YouTube上面其實也是被大家這個多所質疑啦既然是要介紹特別介紹台灣的珍奶文化為什麼還要特別跑到這個原住民的部落然後請這些孩子們穿上他們自己傳統的服裝但是整個所有的內容其實跟他們的原住民的語言或只是他們要介紹的文化 |
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閱讀者提供的詳細資訊,請勿模仿。閱讀者提供的資訊,請勿模仿。 |
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厲我們的目標預期似乎還是有一些落後甚至在這個地區的部分好像亞洲的觀看率還是高於其他的歐美的國家那這個部分我們要怎麼樣來追趕?各位委員報告那因為這過去兩年我們確實報導很多亞太地區的議題跟台灣相關那麼亞洲的觀眾近戰來看的人數確實佔一定的比例那我們最近也在開始開發就是對於歐洲或大洋洲非洲等地 |
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閱讀可否用其他語言,比方說法語、西班牙語或阿拉伯語等等,在自動字幕翻譯生成的過程當中,讓他們能夠更容易來看我們的節目,而不會只受英語的限制。好,我們加油好不好,真的是把台灣帶給世界。好,那另外其實我還想問一下就是我們部長的部分,就是這個是新聞的部分,那文化部的共諜案,我想之後可能要再更謹慎。 |
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因為這個共諜案其實是跟一個台商叫方祥有關的那當然這一審呢是遭判五年四個月那同時涉案的呢還有這個文化部的蒙藏文化中心的蒙式科研這個陳德門博焱那他之後當然也是移送懲戒的法院當中那當然他是現在是判他免職可以上訴但是在針對所謂強化我們自己本身文化部的員工跟 |
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謝謝委員的這個題目。剛剛那個共諜案他得到的資料不是由文化部內部的環境跟資訊取得。那我們目前有三項作為一個就是在現行法令我們強化 |
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議員主席議員 |
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adequate to the requirement of the rights of the authorized person.adequate to the requirement of the authorized person. |
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議員主席 |
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好那剛剛其實培育委員有特別提到就是我們在兒少節目的部分那上個會期其實我們也特別都有在針對兒少的自治的節目其實我們都非常非常的關心那我先講一般的兒少節目兒童節目其實製作是非常難度非常的高我想這也是我們自己本身曾經在這個銀飾文化產業當中其實大家都有一個共識 |
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但是呢很辛苦的就是在兒童節目兒少節目的製作的成本之低齁這個我相信也是其來有質齁那包含一個節目如果含棚含布景扣掉了一些硬體還要包含他的後製還要包含他的動畫其實真的一級的預算我所熟知的一個製作人他製作兒童節目大概將近快要超過10年以上的一個時間了 |
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議員議員議員 |
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議員剛才問到一個很關鍵的問題就是台灣不曉得為什麼 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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議員議員議員 |
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我們現在這一個月來已經訪問了好幾家的這個MSO的業者那他們都願意來配合現在正在協調評位的部分所以應該明年渴望第一季可以達成共識就可以定評了明年第一季就是好那大概會是在定評在哪一個區塊是在跟所有的兒童台或者是卡通台在一起嗎還是 |
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現在還需要就是幾家MSO共同來確認那我們近期還會再繼續拜訪第二次所以會在他們做確認因為這個是他們比較商業機制那他們有幾個可以釋出的品位目前正在積極的協調當中好如果有更進一步的消息麻煩先讓我知道好嗎因為我相信很多人都在找小公司在哪裡我找不到啊我們這麼好的節目我們去挪威去了兩次欸 |
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最後一個部分請教文化部長 |
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部長昨天在財政委員會的聯席委員會上面其實這個我對您的回答其實相當的有點覺得遺憾因為我們特別提到所謂的這個文資的部分雖然經濟部他說這個礦坑和美礦坑確定已經是關閉了那也確定裡頭其實真的沒有辦法再做修復他給我的回答是這樣文化部應該要跳出來啊文化部不是應該是我們的主管機關是文資的主管機關嗎 |
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國務部長你怎麼沒有跳出來說我們負責這個部分我們把它敦促這個經濟部跟農業部一起我們來修復它難道就要眼睜睜的看著這已經被列為是歷史文化建物逐漸消失逐漸凋零禮拜二的時候我要去看這個和美礦坑國務部長要表態嗎我要表態不過在表態之前文資局局長跟你講一下 |
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委員我想大家也關切這個案子我們文字局來我們來協調啦雖然說這個因為現在地方的文化團體其實他們已經在支持喔只是說我們怎麼在公立公私立的協力合作我們來復甦這個部分讓它成為當地的一個真的歷史的建物可以保留可以火化 |
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是,一樣的狀況就是說這個案子的因為它是歷史建築的話它的文資的主管機關是在地方政府那它的管理機關也是在那個林保署那邊我想我們中央主管機關我們願意來協調好,我想文化部必須要扛起這個角色啦那以免我們的這個文化遺產可能真的一個一個關閉然後就講了就沒有了沒有辦法再做活化沒有辦法再做保存我們怎麼跟我們的下一代交代啊 |
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我們第一步我剛才跟委員講說我先把它列入我們的文化部在掌管的文化路徑它是個礦業路徑那也靠近新店碧潭那一帶我會希望用我們的方式先把它因為它是具有歷史性它是具有地方性跟特殊性先列入我們文化部自己可以做的部分 |
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接下來我們有請吳佩奕委員質詢。 |
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謝謝主席。我請文化部李遠部長。我請李部長。 |
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委員您好部長好首先想跟部長分享我最近生命當中少數的美好就是我最近狂看台劇影后而且已經不只一刷已經到二刷了然後呢也跟你分享因為我在網路上看到網友在討論說你要問我說影后我已經刷幾次了很難計算因為我自己看平台已經看兩次了 |
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adequ.委員這部影片我們有文策院投資48%的博樂影業也有參與投資 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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adequate to the budget for the budget for the budget for |
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假設是按照現在這個裁判法的版本中央總共短少6000多億那我們的文化預算我們會短少多少?你們有沒有去計算過?我們接下來跟他排算出來我請製展講到是跟委員報告我們初步估計照現在的算法應該會少131億左右131億你們明年現在文化的預算供物加錢加起來是多少? |
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adequate to the national budget for the next three hundred million dollars. |
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如果現在這個才華版本通過我們文化部的預算會少130億這已經將近一半了所以我非常擔心所以我自己也去計算了除了錢以外你少了一半的預算代表我們有一半我們文化部現在正在做的我們正在支持的事情會無法進行那包括了什麼呢像我們的新興計畫裡面很重要的地方藝文場館 |
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各個縣市的藝文場館我們要支持博物館相關的生根我們要支持我們有影視基地是不是明年也有一個新興計畫是影視基地發展計畫然後呢我們非常重視的各個縣市都要做的地方創生是不是也在明年的新興計畫裡面 |
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這個是我們明年本來新增要做的但是我們預算如果少了不只是現在延續性無法做新興的更不用講延續性的計畫就代表過去在做我們要持續做像我剛講的我們對台流這個文化影音的支持這是延續性計畫嘛我非常的擔心啊如果說未來現在潮流法版本通過文化部的預算少了一百三十幾億少了一半 |
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不只我剛講這個台流計畫我們的國家電影中心我的選區我的兩廳院這是我們中正區藝文廊道重要的據點這些如果通通因為預算沒有辦法進行的話裡面還包括了桃園市立美術館的興建這也是我們文化部我們一直在支持的計畫所以我希望文化部不只是我們立法院的教文委員會 |
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adequate to the budget |
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好那接下來要跟部長討論的是台灣Plus我比較重視的是我們的新聞的專業度跟精確性因為前陣子有一個非常爭議的美國大選的報導嘛裡面使用到了罪犯這個詞所以當然以新聞的專業度來講相當不精確所以呢台灣Plus也急速的做出下架的這個決策既然會認為要下架代表 |
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我相信台灣Plus的內部編輯的控管是有足夠的專業能力來進行判斷但是我們要問的問題就是了為什麼這麼有爭議性的報導會讓它上架你們既然認為要下架代表認為有爭議嘛這個內部的我們目前編輯的程序是如何呢有沒有進行檢討我想請施行長來回答好請說明 |
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報告委員確實我們在這個編輯作業上面來講當天發生一些狀況內部檢討以後要再做改進那現在已經有成立諮詢委員會來協助我們把既有的這些編審流程再做檢視要加強的地方我們要趕快跟上所以我們整個流程會有一個精進的檢討會有一個新版的是嗎是我們現在已經一直都有但是我們有請諮詢委員來幫我們來加強看哪些細節應該要調整好 |
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新聞最重要的就是專業性,所以請你們務必要精確把流程把它精進好不好?台灣Plus在成立的時候這個是台灣的公共媒體的影音平台,當時行政院核定的宗旨就是說希望能夠以英語為媒介向國際社會來呈現台灣自由多元的文化價值。 |
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所以這非常的重要這個跟中國的環球電視網在國際上面常常傳播不實的訊息這種不實內容沒有專業度的官宣是完全不同的我們對你們的期待是有專業度的國際公共媒體所以請你們務必要把它精確是我們會比照國際公共媒體的標準來自我要求 |
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好感謝那接下來要跟部長討論的是我非常重視的是臺灣的文化資產保存這過去我在當臺北市議員就相當關心我甚至是有一棟我們審計部的文資的提報人親自到審議會去報告說明新事項的這個 |
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今年7月的時候建台院有一份調查報告是關於國立台灣大學的文化資產保存部長知道這份報告嗎?知道是這個報告裡面就提到說臺大的文資數量非常多50年以上的房舍有369棟日式宿舍有116棟 |
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adequate to the budget of the entire Taipei City, a total of 537 units, more than one-tenth of which are in the assets of NTU. |
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光是臺大的這個68座文化資產就超過了全臺灣其他五個縣市比嘉義市、嘉義縣、基隆市、臺東縣的文資都還要來得多。來,部長我請教你,你知不知道去年我們文化部補助給全臺灣的大學,我不講臺大,的這個文資的修復我們補助經費多少?非常少,大概6千多萬吧。 |
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來,去年齁,我們補助一所啦,就成大,我們補助了360萬。但是去年一整年我們補助給地方政府做文資修復大概是數十億元。所以台大它是一個特例嘛,因為它的文資數量實在太多了。 |
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它數量跟誰差不多?跟新竹市全新竹市加起來新竹市70處台大就有68處我們一年補助給新竹市的文資修復是1億2000萬所以部長我希望你們我已經請教育部要趕快來跟文化部討論我們應該要來協助大學來進行文資的保存因為它現實際上面就有困難部長這可不可以文化部趕快來跟教育部一起討論 |
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有沒有預計什麼時候完成初步的盤點? |
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文字局來回答一下我想這個我們先前已經跟教育部有開過會請他們盤點我們再追蹤一下既然已經開過會那12月底之前給我們初步的盤點 |
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我們來協調教育部除了補助之外提醒部長跟局長法規也很重要其實監委有給我們建議因為費用實在太過龐大你們也知道所以說我們過去已經修過文資法就私有文資來進行容積移轉協助他能夠積極來進行文資保存這個法規已經修過但是公有文資有沒有開始進行討論公有文資能不能也來適用這個容積移轉呢 |
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公有文資用容積移轉大家討論很久先前的討論是認為現在私有文資的容積移轉在市場的競爭性已經不足了如果再加上公有文資的容積移轉的話是會造成反而對於私有文資的保留所以還在進行討論要再積極討論 |
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議員議員議員 |
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最後感謝部長上個週末因為我們這兩天在邦嘎大拜拜萬華一年一度的小過年盛事謝謝部長來到萬華親自也體驗我們在地的文資還有我們的市集在地文化團體青年的活力感謝你然後很多人也知道說部長家鄉就是萬華也很開心您回到故鄉來謝謝 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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接下來我們有請吳春城委員質詢。 |
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我們需要一位能翻轉七百萬壯世代的文化部長。請問部長你願意嗎? |
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11331.271 |
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接下來再過41天,台灣就進入超高齡社會,請問文化部有對應計畫嗎? |
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部長有沒有對應計畫?超高齡社會這麼大的一個議題,進來的20%的人超過65歲,請問文化部有針對這個問題進行討論嗎? |
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其實我們在整個那個文化政策裡面很多項目都是跟超高齡社會還有這個壯世代有關我會不會請我們的真的嗎是我請市長跟主相報告嗎不用等一下我再問他問到他們的時候這個是真的嗎真心嗎真心啊等一下我就讓你看你們的真心上個禮拜行政院院會之後卓魁 |
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閱讀新聞稿,讓壯世代持續貢獻社會。這是行政院現在重視的議題。我們的前文化部長鄭麗君,現在的副院長,說步步是文化部,好大的豪氣。現在文化部敢不敢,你敢不敢說這樣的話? |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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我真的感受到他是一個文化人,他的文化的使命感,我覺得他對文化感同的深度是有的,所以跟他談話非常的愉快,談了一個小時,他表示十分感動,深表認同。 |
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那我跟部長您我們溝通了快兩個會期我常常就談討論這個問題請您有同感嗎? |
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您剛才講是您跟...對,我今天看壯士代他手上也是拿壯士代我講我跟你傳播像宣教師一樣的一直在傳教給我們的文化部的同仁做這麼多的傳教傳了已經已經已經快兩個會期了請問你有聽進去嗎?所以我剛才說要不要跟您報告我們足相已經做了事情要不請我們的市長跟您報告我會找時間我看你們回我的好不好你先不用口頭在這裡講您剛才講的那個壯士代 |
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我認為現在已經到了一種文化的國安危機的地步了,因為我覺得文化部並沒有從你們的預算書裡面看,從你們回覆過來的所有的文件裡面去看。 |
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現在這個的問題人口的問題我們現在有三分到2010年三分之二人口超過 |
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整個其實最核心的問題是我們對於沒有文化的論述對這些文化的偏見整個高齡社會的定型然後呢在整個包括高齡化跟少子化這是一體之兩面但是呢文化部並沒有這個認知沒有把這樣子的一個責任放在自己的身上 |
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現在我看到的文化部我們本來是一個文化大國台灣是一個文化大國中華民國是一個文化大國現在感受到了我覺得沒有感受到我們是一個文化大國我們是越來越是一個文化小國 |
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國立文化小國越來在國際的文化地位上面不具有地位現在呢我也不曉得我們的文化部越走我感覺到從你們的計畫當中一直在做的是什麼轉型正義其實台灣現在已經沒有這個轉型正義的問題了台灣往前30年最重要的事情是民主化這大家都認同 |
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走到現在還在搞民族那就是笑話文化部顯然還停留在那一個時空裡面往後30年台灣最重要的是什麼是人口學人口的天翻地覆台灣未來50年會減少一千萬人你知道嗎 |
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整個歷史的一個變化,天翻地覆的變化,這就是會影響到全面性。它的重要性超越民主化,對整個台灣全面性的影響。但是這個呢,任其方無。那為什麼會任其方無?各部會完全沒有這種觀念。 |
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我在問大家,超高齡社會,少子超高齡社會已經定型了,大家認為那個社會,超高齡社會是一個悲慘世界還是一個美麗新世界呢?部長你覺得?悲慘世界還是美麗新世界? |
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好像很難用悲慘世界跟美麗世界來形容這麼簡單的話。在台灣這是一個認知的信仰。我跟部長講,我們現在各部大概把它當作一個悲慘的世界。所以當你這樣認為的時候,你提出的解方就是悲慘解方。 |
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但是這是一個定型的,未來我們的世界都是悲慘嗎?你換一換角度,壯世代在提的就是把它當作一個美麗新世界。你就可以提出美麗的解放出來。這個靠的是什麼?這是思維。大家沒有那個眼光,這個要靠誰?靠文化部。顯然文化部也是當作悲慘世界。這就是我為什麼叫做文化的國安危機在這裡。文化部歧視高齡者。 |
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你在這個今年110年的預算當中給予壯士在族群的一個計畫只有這一項,編列一千萬。 |
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一千萬當中是在那個什麼藝術醫療結合科技文化當中樂齡社交大概一千萬只有這一項其他的我沒看見所以你剛才講的說什麼多重視等一下這不是歧視嗎在我的撞觸法公聽會當中文化部各部會都是厚厚一本文化部一頁這一頁是封面一頁封面 |
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其他就是一頁這是什麼意思?這是什麼意思?裡面的內容要不要看一下第一點就是沒有意思我們尊重各個族群第二個就是配合行政院所做的然後比如說我們可以在高雄流行音樂中心舉辦2024藍寶石大歌廳演唱會這是在嘲笑欸 |
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第三點。 |
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講的藝文活動、社交交流、藝術婦人引髮的連結。所以我們有文化當中沉浸式的。然後本部電子書、擴充的。你們回答了就這三點。跟文化這麼重要,讓你翻天覆地的翻轉。給你們溝通的兩個會期,你回覆的就這三點。剛才講了半天,你們有多重視。 |
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你看看上個禮拜資訊月今年 |
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在跟我合作之下,速發部做了一個壯世代董資樂園改變那個思維我帶了幾萬的壯世代進入資訊業裡面創下我們第一次銀髮族大玩資訊業你覺得它沒有可能嗎?你覺得它不可能嗎?你都一直用過去用的都是要樂齡資訊區沒有人要去 |
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我改變他的思維以後,大量的人增加。這應該是文化部要做的事情嘛,人家樹花部都已經在做了。好不好? |
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總職委員、書法部的黃部長,全力的支持,但我沒有看到文化部。我本來對文化部有很高的期待,認為這個是引領我們整個進入這個新社會當中的一個起手。但是到現在,我完全看到文化部沒有這樣子的一個努力。部長我本來一直很尊重你,我一直從頭到尾就說我認為你是一個文化人。 |
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我非常對文化人物非常的尊重,但是希望你不要成為一個政治人,越來感染上越來越多的政治色彩。呼籲各部會應該改變這個錯誤的文化人設,這就是文化認知的人設。我們從引法族,我們現在都停留在這裡,臥床啊,去醫院啊,沒希望了啦,是年輕人的負擔啊,安養晚宴。我看文化部現在對高齡者的態度也是這個樣子啦。 |
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這不是一個文化認知嗎? |
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有沒有希望文化部能夠往這方面來努力?這個努力不要造成世代的對立,這個才能夠解決世代的問題。因為壯世代整個是為未來,我們高齡者就當分子人口越來越多,少子化造成分母越來越小。 |
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請問文化部有什麼解放?唯一的解放就是把分子撞起來拉下來當分母這就是壯士在追求的一個目標這應該跟文化部非常的符合的我希望文化部好好再思考再思考我們可以來好好的認知這一點 |
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現在全部你去Google一下幾十萬筆都在談這個問題的引起社會很極大的反應希望文化部應該是引導大家的思維思潮的一個方向不要反而成為一個落伍的落後者所以我們需要一個能夠翻轉七百萬壯士來的文化部長帶領各部會期待部長好謝謝吳政才委員的質詢部長請回接下來我們有請范雲委員質詢 |
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好,有請部長。 |
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部長早安,辛苦了。我想部長應該有看到這幾天關於職場霸凌的讓人非常遺憾的新聞。所以今天也想針對跟職場安全、身心健康有關的職安問題想繼續追蹤文化部的作為。我想部長應該知道今年我們 |
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經中獎的特別貢獻獎是頒給誰?這個部長知道嗎? |
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我知道,我知道,就是一個在職安中受害的。對,就是38歲,就是因為職安,就是攝影師,他在苗栗南莊神仙谷墜谷,然後黃伯雄,那感謝他在攝影方面的貢獻,那他的遺孀楊思宇,那我想立天部長應該在現場有聽到他講的,他訴求就是長官們能撥一點預算, |
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我想他後面這個要呼籲大家勇敢說不我覺得真的讓人覺得很心疼因為從最近的職安事件我們真的覺得當一個不對等的權力更何況最近這個引後你也會看到他這個豁出去了交出自己power的精神所以很多的時候演員跟職員其實並沒有選擇 |
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所以我覺得這個時候我們文化部的任務就更重大了。那部長可以同意我現在說的嗎?同意啊。同意齁。那所以今天就想追蹤就是我從2022年就開始希望文化部逐步努力的 |
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當然我要先肯定文化部當時就是這個事件之後我希望文化部盡速提調查報告具體保障工作安全文化部也在同年11月就針對我要求的之一就是公布了關於職安議題的文化藝術工作者的契約範本我想這是往前走了一步 |
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關於契約的部分當時候我也要求文化部要建立影視職安的第三方監督機制還有要建立安全人才資料庫因為如果沒有這方面因為影視業是一個非常特殊的拍片現場然後他們拍片現場的變動很快不管你們所講的就是爆破等等吊掛火效 |
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adequate to the current situation, our film and television industry does not yet have talent in the field of security and professional communication. |
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今天其實就是想繼續追蹤這件事情就是關於職業安全這個部分我們的影視局文化部是不是可以做得更多因為總不能夠我們永遠都在推廣吧那這個人才資料庫長不出來人才根本就沒有就不會有資料庫對不對那第三方監督機制又覺得機身彈、彈身機長不出來現在一下要求又太快所以我今天的第一個部分就是說可不可以給我一個時間表 |
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議員議員議員議員 |
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議員給我們一個月報告 |
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謝謝部長,我相信部長很有心,坐在那裡聽應該會跟我們看到的是一樣痛心。 |
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閱讀了之後覺得雖然我們是在初步研究階段所以也想跟部長討論文化部轄下其實有非常多的台灣重要的文史資料 |
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但是因為格式不同主管的單位不一樣所以彼此之間好像並沒有辦法整合也沒有辦法讓大眾覺得它更好用那就非常的可惜因為在一個我們要繼續更往前數位化的時代那如果我們相關的資料庫沒有辦法有更整合的平台使用起來更困難的話那我們前面花了這麼多的功夫包含你們所有的國家文化 |
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繼議庫2.0國家文化資料庫國家文化資產網文化部典藏網更不用提文化部轄下的新聞資料單位有非常多寶貴的歷史資料因為當時就是老三台可以說是一個影像新聞壟斷的時代那等等那我想 |
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他們各自有各自的一些辦法各自的規格可是這個部分文化部是不是也可以花一點心力在我們繼續數位化的時代就是把這些資料庫找一些相關的數位那對這些資料熟悉的人才來討論一下是不是可以往整合的方向走 |
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12512.193 |
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12513.054 |
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國家文化記憶庫2.0國家文化資料庫文化部典藏國家文化資產網 |
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12530.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
12549.785 |
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還有來陳情的學者文化人士談的地方其實也做了不少努力我相信這也是我們文化部所關心的能不能夠也讓他們能夠連結進來能夠更好用這不是一件容易的工作可是部長是不是可以尋找專業的人才來開始討論進行這樣的整合讓過去的努力未來可以讓我們台灣文史資料為大更多人使用 |
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12561.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
12563.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
bicyn 今天其實就是這兩個部分 |
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12579.15 |
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議員主席議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
12595.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
12619.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
12619.961 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
12639.949 |
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好,謝謝部長,這兩個都是一個月會給我報告,是不是?好,沒問題,一個月。好,謝謝部長,一起加油,一起接。好,謝謝。好,謝謝范雲委員,部長先請回。因為本席剛剛有宣告說范雲委員結束之後我們要處理零體,但是因為雅琳跟范雲委員換過時間,你要先質詢還是我們先處理零體?先處理零體。先處理零體,OK嗎?可以。好,那我們現在開始處理臨時提案。 |
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12649.285 |
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12657.217 |
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今天有委員提出臨時提案共計5案,請宣讀。建於台灣Plus發展國際數位傳播計劃110-113年執行率僅68.6%,明年度解敘邊發展國際數位。 |
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12667.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
12684.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
傳播計劃114至117年總經費共40億元。回顧台灣PLUS三年來APP下載次數只16萬次。原詞要求文化部於一個院內提出台灣PLUS檢討計劃報告。提案人黃孟凱聯署人萬美玲玲欠其。 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
12686.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
12704.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
人文歷史是臺北的文化觀光特色。請文化部與地方政府合作輔導納入以下三處文化基地。一、臺北市西門町電影文化基地。二、臺北市城中區博物館文化基地。三、臺北市城西文化基地。其他人物配譯成培餘成繡寶。 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
12706.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
12728.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
於2009年入選世界遺產潛力點的樂生療養院卻屢屢與保存、再利用以及願名保障等事件發生爭議,極度不利,進一步爭取世界遺產登錄。為登錄世界遺產計,文化部應秉持專業與文化資產保存法規範,於三個月內提出樂生入口景觀復原規劃,並協同樂生願名、國際愛麗亞協會 、 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
12734.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
12760.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
今年樂生聯盟、臺灣蠻野新族生態協會以及衛福部、交通部、新北市政府、臺北市政府捷運局等相關團體展開多方對談共同落實樂生願名所判緩坡大平台案。王阿波於於三個月內針對上述課題提出具體規劃落實啟程並向立法院教育文化委員會提交書面報告。第二人林盈瑾、梁曙人、陳培宇、陳秀寶。 |
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12762.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
12775.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
近年,臺灣之繪本創作者李綠或多項國際大展。繪本亦為推廣親子共讀最好的媒體。王阿波因為我國親子及繪本插畫、童書創作者設立鼓勵機制。 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
12777.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
12796.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
原此請文化部於2個月內研議成立國家繪本館、繪本博覽會或繪本基地之可行性,以及設立繪本專業獎項,鼓勵我國創作者之獎鼓勵機制,以表彰我國對繪本創畫童書之重視。提案人陳北宇、連署人范雲、郭益晴。 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
12799.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
12820.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
根據勞動部資料顯示,目前我國約有21萬文化產業工作者,其中受雇勞工約13萬人,無一定雇主約8000人,另有將近8萬人為自營作業者。為保障非受雇勞工型態異文工作者之健康權,也要求文化部針對文化產業之無一定雇主。 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
12821.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
12848.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
自營作業者參考勞動部飲食業職業災害預防指引會商衛福部與勞動部共同研議文化產業自營工作者之安全衛生防護與健康檢查補助方案以強化其從業之保障,並將研議結果於2個月內以書面方式回覆立法院教育及文化委員會提案人格如君、黃孟凱、柯志文、萬美林、宣獨安比。 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
12852.739 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
12869.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
12870.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
12876.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
倒數第三函台灣Plus濫編約58億,最正確數字是34.71億。所以我們只要把下載次數17萬次,然後預算數改成34.71。 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
12897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
12902.072 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
提案案有裡面文字有大內宣我是覺得大內宣這個文字並不精確因為這個不太清楚實際指的是什麼我是不是建議這個大內宣文字是不是可以不要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
12926.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
12928.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
嗯,可是這文化部沒有什麼意見耶。 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
12930.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
12958.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
如果提案人提了然後文化部也沒有特別的意見。因為如果不精確的話你們要怎麼進行?什麼叫做大內宣呢?我剛才沒有看到對不起。淪為大內宣這個的確不太對。因為我們是一個對外的一個英文頻道。他是把台灣的一些記錄內容狀況用英文報導。而且把國際的內容往國內宣導。所以大內宣一直成為大內宣其實一直成為現在一個非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
12959.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
12961.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
大內宣這個用詞其實不只在我們現在在文化部討論歷史提案有出現 |
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| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
13003.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
|
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| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
13030.624 |
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有沒有這麼難過?這個詞其實並不是在文化部才有的。因為大內宣這個字眼本來是如果只是一個政府的宣傳什麼我倒覺得沒有關係可是大內宣這三個字常常被講成是一個花錢在傳播政府的一個好像利用媒體在傳播什麼東西它有一點點負面的意思我覺得 |
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13032.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
13035.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
13076.491 |
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第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
13083.404 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
13084.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
閱讀委員會主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
13101.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
13124.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
提出具體規劃落實期程可不可以改成是協調衛生福利部研議可行性。因為這個議題實在太多年了。好來部長我們應該這樣子我們提案人連署人在沒關係我來念一下那個文化部現在的說法是在1234第5段我們第一行未登錄世界遺產這樣下來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
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於三個月內,但因為主政機關是衛福部,所以協調主政機關衛生福利部研議,把提出兩個字拿掉,然後熱身入口景觀復原規劃,那下面是知可行性,然後並協調衛生福利部協同以下,沒有問題喔。 |
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13144.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
13145.971 |
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議員 文化部應於三個月內針對上述課題協調衛生福利部演繹可行性。 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
13170.296 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
13170.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
接下來第四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
13206.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
13226.493 |
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|
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
13227.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
13227.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
我們有請張雅琳委員質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
13265.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
13302.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
部長好那首先我要來關心我一直非常關心的這個三金臺文字幕文化部的這個文化金曲獎金鐘獎的一個問題就是說在上次呢我們其實已經有要求嘛那文化部也跟我回函了啦那回函上面是講說授權內容僅限於原詞曲不包含改編詞曲依契約簽訂內容不建議更改原歌詞如果基於尊重 |
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| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
13326.57 |
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原詞曲的創作如果要改為台語正字的話就需要回頭向原作詞者再次確認那可能會使原作詞者能誤解為糾正其原始用詞不當亦引起不必要的誤會及爭議所以在實際上操作上較難向授權方提出因原歌詞有誤而須更正為台語正字用字之要求 |
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| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
13345.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
我想確認一件事情齁我一直要求的都不是去更改原歌詞我一直要求的都是在下面多加一行我不曉得是文化部搞不清楚呢還是我講得不夠清楚呢這樣子的回函就代表根本沒有去溝通啊這樣子的到底有沒有去溝通還是不理解我在講什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
13363.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
13384.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
議員報告有關兩行這個文字呈現的問題那因為我們有跟轉播單位溝通那他們是說從電視專業的考量兩行字幕可能會影響電視畫面的整體視覺我想現在有很多的公式台語的動畫都可以用兩行字幕來處理為什麼這個不行但公式台語台他怎麼做到的都是文化部的啊可不可以去聯絡一下搞清楚別人怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
13397.067 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
13407.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
為什麼不行?是想擺爛不想處理還是怎麼樣?那可不可以改善?可不可以去了解?公司董事長也在後面嘛,一定非常了解我們是有這樣子的做法的啊。可不可以去了解?我想這件事情我看起來是你們收到回函就決定不去溝通的。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
13432.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
看你們的回文上面就是說因為這樣子好像會有點造成別人的困擾所以就沒有去溝通我覺得這完全背離了你們當時對我的承諾下次不要再有同樣的錯誤部長可以嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
13460.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
其實我們有去溝通,包括金馬獎這次要轉播,我們有去跟他溝通。所以金馬獎這次會發生一樣的問題嗎?有,他會說如果有的話他就,他唱台語歌的時候,如果有台語歌他就會用字幕。台語正字嗎?所以都有在溝通?所以不會再發生一模一樣的?所以剛剛委員有點誤會,其實因為他是有一些技術問題,我們每一次轉播都去跟轉播單位跟他溝通,包括金馬獎。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
13461.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
閱讀委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
13476.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
13505.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
13521.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
13523.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
13542.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
經馬獎本身在整個單位適不適合用國家語言發展法裏面施行細則裏面第9條就有講說我們捐助的財團我們資助的財團法人應該要提供語言多元服務第9條裏面就有講到這一條能不能適用在經馬獎我們正在員工確認好那請你們釐清好請你們釐清好謝謝沒問題那再來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
13550.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
13579.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
我們現在有一個臺語家庭的計畫嘛我想要來了解一下臺語家庭的計畫因為從9月就說開始可以讓地方政府來申請了那我參加一些活動的時候也都有叫我掃QR code可以去做這個登記這樣子但是我想要知道到底有多少人知道臺語家庭的這一個計畫這個宣傳到底在哪裡啊這可不可以請是次長來說明一下嗎我們已經在往下進行請次長跟您報告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
13582.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
議員主席 |
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13601.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
13626.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
adequate開始去我們這個網站上來做登錄這個部分我們先處理了行政單位的通知然後新聞稿或者是記者會的部分也都在規劃當中所以我們預計會有記者會來擴大辦理嗎?因為我想不是只有台語現在已經會講的台語家庭要來知道這件事情啦應該是所有的人都應該要知道這個訊息所以它應該要有一個大型的宣傳所以你們相關的是有一些記者會大概是在什麼時候會舉辦呢? |
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| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
13635.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
adequate to the end of the year, we will be able to find a suitable venue. |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
13669.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
adequate 現在推廣的團體一定要知道這件事情然後相關的網路的宣傳好我想這都是要一起來配合才能夠讓這件事情真正的傳承下去好嗎謝謝那再來就是延續這個問題喔因為我們其實在台語家庭的時候有講說我們需要是我們希望可以有一些基地嗎那我也非常感謝文化部其實有來規劃了四座生活美學館但是我有發現喔這些長社展 |
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閱讀委員會主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案 |
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議員會議員議員 |
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bicyclist 提供提供提供提供 |
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來討論說是可以有一個動畫的那個節目的部分有但是在長片的部分還是沒有所以我想要了解就是我們在影視局其實有跟這些團體開一個會他其實是說因為這個現在我們的長片輔導金委員其實是來自於各個電影產業的各個領域那我想要了解這裡面的委員到底有哪些是來自動畫的領域呢? |
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關於委員關心這個題目我跟您講說我們有最新的狀況就是我們乾脆把動畫、電影、長片拉出來自己成立一個那個輔導金所以現在確認會有嗎?因為知道上次開會的結論是沒有的算是有各種疑慮主要是我們的廠量不夠因為在台灣做動畫的公司跟人才 |
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剛剛您講的完全對就是它要靠加工才能生存所以當時是疑慮這個後來我想其實我自己做過動畫我做過動畫我蠻希望台灣的動畫跟漫畫跟其他的那個文學作品跟電影它可以成為一個IP所以我們已經決定要把動畫電影長片獨立製作成為一個這一項脫離所有的其他長片這一點是我們最近這一兩三天最新的決定 |
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謝謝部長的支持,因為我想動畫其實在日本我相信都知道有非常多不同的題材可以透過動畫來處理,那現在剛剛好台灣都有這些人才,那也希望就是說,因為其實在會議第三點裡面也有提到說要如何協助他們把整個產業鏈做起來,那相關詳細的計畫是不是也可以再多久的時候送到我們辦公室呢? |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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這個家族呢就把胡克敏這位大師的作品全部有一部分啦有一部分都已經捐贈到中國因為中國他們覺得中國的積極的協助他們要收藏他們的作品所以現在就有一部分都已經送到中國去了這樣子那我想了解我們在這一段上面在戰後的這一段一些重要的藝術家的作品還有支援我們上面我們可以再多做一點什麼事情呢 |
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講到這一點是有點遺憾我們在歷史博物館其實我們裡面有非常多由中國來到台灣的一些藝術家非常有名的藝術家來到台灣之後他們也開始把他的作品本土化等等我覺得去中國化這個東西對我來講是個假議題所以我們特別對於這些作家會把作品捐給中國可能是他們個人的認同嘛因為我知道我們在電影界也有些 |
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這是部長剛剛說的啦其實他只是覺得說大家好像都不是很在乎他們所以我想在這一段我們如何跟藝術家的後代或是跟藝術家本人做更多的溝通都是非常重要因為大家來到了台灣嘛台灣現在就是族群融合我們收集各個中華文化的重要藝術作品都是非常重要就像我之前的質詢上面我們如何把這些讓台灣變成華語世界的文化中心所以我希望是不是 |
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adequate to the current state of affairs. |
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閱讀委員會主管文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
14049.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
14055.723 |
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李卓人議員,請回答。接下來,我們有請黃國昌委員質詢時間4分鐘。李卓人議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
14096.188 |
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黃委員您好部長其實我是支持台灣的新聞應該要國際化對於台灣的閱聽大眾來講多接觸一些國際的新聞開闊視野跟世界連結都有幫助但我必須要老實講你們做那個台灣Plus花到現在社會上面 |
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反彈的聲音很高啦,我真的,我可以很直接的跟部長做這樣子的表白。當初可能你們所高舉的一些想法跟實際上面的落實啊,中間的落差讓大家開始去質疑啊,說每一年花這些錢做這個事情到底是在幹嘛。部長,台灣Plus到現在的成效你滿意嗎? |
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需要多久?需要多久?看他們自己本身努不努力吧?你要回答嗎?我想請執行長給你直接回答不是啦,因為齁,那個請部長齁,要能夠理解就是立法委員我們的立場 |
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因為當選民跟我們做這樣子的反應的時候我們恐怕沒有辦法雲淡風輕的跟你講一下請他們再努力嘛大家要看到的是實際的成果那特別是啊不管是從審計部的總學算報告或者是說從立法院預算中心的報告對台灣Plus實際上面的效果質疑啊非常非常的大甚至啊 |
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出現了這樣子的狀況我老實說我是會看國際新聞的你們公視出的那個檢討報告我也都看過但問題是在台灣目前的脈絡下面 |
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我們在報新聞的時候報到好像我們的政府我們的公廣集團是有在選編的選特定的價值因為這位記者我也不想誤會他所以從頭到尾我全部都聽完了我也不是看翻譯的我就看他英文怎麼表達部長你也說這個情況很嚴重嗎 |
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我想是跟我們當年要成立這個台灣plus我們找了很多外國記者因為本身這個本國的記者英文程度不夠不夠這麼好我們就從外國找記者外國記者本身他的政治傾向或者他的言論的確是我覺得跟台灣還有一點差異你覺得這樣的事情還會不會再發生希望盡量減少 |
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14268.306 |
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您覺得目前台灣Plus他們所出的檢討報告您滿不滿意?我覺得我不會太滿意,因為我覺得還是找了一些藉口。還是找了一些藉口嗎?對。那您不滿意也認為他們在找藉口,接下來該怎麼辦?繼續督促他們繼續努力。 |
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因為這個公管集團本身的設定一直不在他是一個獨立的一個運作的包括節目內容新聞內容文化不是不能干預的像這一次我稍微有一點覺得嚴重馬上就會有人說我干涉新聞自由文化部長干涉新聞自由其實我完全沒有來我們請那個胡董事長請胡董委員好那個部長剛剛講的話我完全聽得懂 |
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那袁輝兄也是之前我非常敬重的傳播學者您覺得部長表達這樣子的立場有在干預你們的新聞自由嗎?首先要說明就是我們當時決定暫行下架這件事情是我們內部編輯室討論結果所以與部長後來的發言這是兩件事情是兩件事情嗎?那董事長從您作為傳播學者的高度您覺得這個報導有沒有問題? |
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14354.625 |
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我們認為那個用字所謂A convicted felonFelon這個字翻譯成中文您很了解就所謂的重罪其實在美國這不是那麼重不過這個用語簡單來講就是我們覺得是可以用但你要在敘述脈絡裡面做妥善你說得很好啊問題就出在敘述脈絡嘛是這個有問題他在報結果的時候啊 |
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說我們的盟邦啊重要的盟友啊美國人到底會選出一位女總統還是會選出一位重刑犯結果美國人選擇的是一個重刑犯這樣子的敘述我老實說啦大家看完了以後我覺得真的非常不妥真的非常不妥我本來還以為說這個是在美國有特定黨派立場的媒體所做的報導 |
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我語重心長的就是說跟董事長說一句話我們這個會期要審預算台灣Plus當初成立的時候大家有很高的期待搞到今天連部長剛剛的發言您都聽到了如果沒有再更努力的說服國人的話這個預算接下來審議的時候要立委支持 |
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14436.323 |
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大家都會很困難我想我話說到這邊董事長應該可以理解嘛好下一個啊國內的公廣集團我真的是匪夷所思欸我們的華視啊報新聞報到會違反選罷法看到這個新聞想說這個是新聞還是在幫民進黨吹票啊當初這個新聞出來的時候一堆人質疑啊 |
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結果搞到後來被中選會裁罰了中選會裁罰華氏20萬,代表人20萬代表人20萬的錢是自己出的嗎?如果處分確認當然是我們應該要自己出的應該要自己出,現實上要自己出嗎?所有處分都是華氏自己付款對啊華氏自己負擔沒意義啊 |
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14490.181 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
是納稅人在負擔啊?您同意嗎?呃,華市當然他股份有83%是公司基金會,不過他營運是完全自己自主。董事長,我真的蠻敬重您的。但我覺得在國會不要講外行話啦。你罰華市20萬,絕大多數就是納稅人出嗎?出現這樣子的狀況,華市內部有檢討嗎? |
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14514.651 |
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有,而且有在總經理他對這個事情有做過一個討論跟檢討。那檢討完了以後呢?有誰被追究責任?我可以再去了解一下。請了解一下一個禮拜之內書面回答我,誰負了責任? |
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因為我看到有很多傳播學者當初大家都很支持公廣集團看到這個新聞的時候覺得不可置信覺得不可置信我們公廣集團的人去搞這種事情違反選罷法讓大家質疑我們的公廣集團做出來的新聞是當初接觸的理想為國家、為社會、為人民還是幫特定的黨派 |
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14545.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
接下來我們有請羅志強委員質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
14589.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
主席有請部長跟胡董事長好,李部長、胡董事長 |
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部長好,這個我們講公視,做一個國家媒體,它應該有三大原則要恪守嘛,中立、專業跟績效嘛,對不對?對。好,我們先來看中立。這個台灣Plus製作打攤專題,它以民眾黨主席柯文哲上手銬的照片為主圖。 |
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14649.332 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
大家發現內容也多數在報導柯文哲涉及金華城土地改建弊案。但是實際上同步在進行還有很多執政黨的一些要員所涉及的弊案,卻沒有等比例的報導。部長你覺得這樣的方式有符合所謂的中立原則嗎?因為它整個新聞的內容跟照片我們沒有辦法確定,所以是不是請董事長回答你。請董事長。 |
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據我的了解,我們事實上在那個專題裡面有各個政黨候選人、政黨的人物涉及到這類事情的報導。不過我們認為那個圖片處理得不下當,所以圖片已經把它刪掉。我告訴你齁,你被看見才刪掉啦。我要跟你說啊,他們不要變成柯P打到死啦。 |
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指振黨現在對不對你會看到整個指振黨氛圍都在打柯文哲公視在新聞分配的比例上跟所謂圖片的那個設計的選材上您也是媒體的您知道基本上不過您放心啦我們不會做這種事情我想要放心我想要放心啦但你們現在做的至少現在看到的這一件事情就讓人家不放心嘛那第二個齁我再請教部長齁 |
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14714.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
專業原則公視台灣PLUS頻道使用被定罪的重刑犯稱呼川普 |
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| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
14737.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
那公視我剛剛看董事長也有說明說這個是全球公共媒體皆普通使用的詞彙那後來因為朝野一致譴責公視才提出檢討承認有管理疏失也對相關人作出記過的處分那部長你對於公視目前處置滿意嗎? |
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| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
14764.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
我尊重,因為他們尊重他整個的經過自立委員會的結果,包括董事會,因為我一再強調文化部跟公管機構的關係是我們編預算給他之後,我不能干預他任何東西。我剛才一再講說我個人覺得不滿意的話都不能講出來一點點,馬上變得非常嚴重說哇新聞不自由,文化部長干預新聞,所以我蠻為難的。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
我可以體諒你的為難但納稅人更為難我剛剛已經講在這件事上展現不中立在所謂的報導這個美國總統大選又展現不專業然後更重要他不是不專業的問題公視是國家媒體他今天代表國家他今天對一個現在已經當選美國總統的川普用這麼復興的詞彙 |
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閱讀的脈絡也對他非常不友善。這種情況之下,你還不只是不專業,你甚至是在扯我們辛苦的外交的後腿。這個才是今天大家覺得對台灣Plus第二個感到不滿意的地方。第三個,你覺得你對台灣Plus到目前為止花了幾十億公帑他會績效你滿意嗎? |
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14829.73 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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我想作為公共媒體對自己的成果都不會滿意的,我們都會隨時求進。那已經不是你的個人的自律的那個要求問題。不過我還是要解釋一下,您剛才那個程序,因為我們是第一時間行政裁量。好啦我跟你講,剛剛前面我都聽過了。沒有沒有,我們也談這個,但是它必須經過一個process,這是公共媒體必須要經過的標準。它不能夠自己來決定說它絕對是對或錯,不過我們基於行政裁量已經認為, |
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當然胡董事長你講的是原因面 |
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但今天對於國人在看TIME PLUS我們看是結果面你也告訴我說相關的在脈絡上的處理你覺得有問題嗎你到現在都認為這個詞彙沒問題但我認為這個詞彙有問題啦因為公視TIME PLUS不是一般的媒體一般媒體我覺得用這個詞彙我覺得沒有問題但是很抱歉啊我在總統府待過我知道外交多困難 |
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你覺得今天你是川普你看到這句話你會高興嗎?你看到這則報導你會高興嗎?董事長實際上我們這個標題同樣的標題是上BBC還有澳洲的ABC還有加拿大的CBC我要告訴您吼對 那我們當然有問題我剛才已經講了我們台灣的外交處境很困難的啊這個我們理解很困難的啊所以最後吼我還是必須說一句話啦中立原則 |
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被question了專業不夠還對外交產生妨害績效也被大家詬病真的拜託公視再努力一點不然說真的預算到手上來還真不知怎麼支持欸你變成是逼得大家好像也非砍不可啊 |
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當然任何有疏失我們都應該檢討改進這是沒有惡化不過還是要跟您報告我們在所有的調查包括牛津大學對我們所做的台灣媒體的調查我們的信任度是第一名或者是第二名我們在所有的金鐘獎的獎項上面我們也是今年超歷年之多我想很多事情可能要看全面還是跟委員前委員多多支持公共媒體 |
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接下來我們有請羅廷偉委員質詢時間8加2。 |
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謝謝召委,有請部長還有董事長。好,李部長跟胡董事長。董事長。有請胡董事長。 |
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國委員好部長好部長剛剛有葛委員有跟你提到關於藝術創作者工作者自營者他們對於這部分的一個福利跟權益那我也想為他們一起來發聲其實台中在文化地域尤其在我的中西區東南區有很多這樣子的一個產業以及很多這樣子的一個場所包括其實我們台中有秦美大頓文化藝術中心省基新村文創園區還有第四市場 |
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好那我想這些都有很多的一些藝術創作者他們會去做這些藝術工作那其實剛剛其實大家都討論到不管是高工時高壓力單負的健康風險以及健康問題對創作力的一個影響對文化部主管機關對文化的一個照顧 |
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proporting the Ministry of Culture to promote regular health checks and subsidies, and provide psychological support to assist. |
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不好意思大聲一點可以嗎?是啊那因為這部分如果認定之後到底有哪些人能夠受惠我們也希望能夠更加的去有一個配套措施具體的去把它公平公正並且廣泛的來讓大家能夠來申請這個部分我想包括有很多認定上的一個問題我們都會很擔憂那當然推出這樣的一個補助能夠來協助他們利益良善但到底能夠讓多少人 |
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adequacy and transparency. |
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以及是不是多數人都可以使用到公平性這個部分還麻煩你要稍微注意一下可以嗎可以啊好謝謝那另外呢我想請問一下部長這個台灣plus大家今天都非常的關注那成立的初衷啊 |
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就是要了解台灣的一個文化跟價值我相信這個目標我們都非常的支持沒有人會去反對所以呢才會編列預算這麼多年在做執行喔那四年58億分年進行這樣子的一個預算呢那我想你們自己所訂定喔有這樣子的一個APP下載居然才百萬下載目標只有十萬餘量喔 |
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則是10萬左右而已齁那這個部分剛剛很多的委員都在問齁你們滿不滿意啦我想這個不需要問一定是不滿意而且是十分之一而已齁那我覺得這個根本不需要打分數這就是完全的不及格連自己所訂定的目標的一半 |
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審計部也在 112年度決算和審核的一個報告當中也有提到影音的內容跟計畫目標未符合且觀看來源集中在亞洲跟美洲顯示其國際化的效果有限部長我們都知道公共電視法第11條要求節目製播需要保持多元客觀以及公平性並兼顧我們的一個相關族群的均衡 |
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台灣Plus的官網上面喔在關於我裡面也寫得很清楚提供獨立且公正的每日新聞報導對吧這個您知道吧知道好然而我們都很懷疑啊台灣Plus的一個新聞比例是否能夠如實的轉達多元客觀以及公平喔我想請問你一個英文單詞啊不知道您知道嗎Crawford |
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15260.801 |
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這個單詞意思是腐敗我們用這個單詞關鍵字去做一個搜尋台灣Plus的新聞裡面腐敗所顯示的新聞大家可以來看一下這個我所提供的一個圖片前16則裡面有7則是民眾黨 |
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15294.406 |
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腐敗搜尋完是16則有7則是民眾黨有2則是謝國良惡意罷免案有2則是無黨籍議員的貪腐案我是很懷疑阿那綠營呢綠營呢綠營就不腐敗但無論是台研的陳啟毅以及雲報能源都沒有看到這些新聞阿我一直往後滑相關的新聞看到了更多的柯文哲 |
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15297.005 |
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我沒有說不准你報導誰呀! |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
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15325.103 |
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我是希望能不能多元客觀公正連這最基本的看起來都做不太到所以事實擺在眼前有圖有真相然後一直拉到很下面才勉強有幾則關於超思雞蛋案的一個報導是拉到很下面然後一則正文燦的新聞那台灣plus你們可以說是柯文哲的粉絲了吧 |
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15338.629 |
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我覺得這個部分是不是有待改進?委員這個有一點點有一點點落差就是他是八九月份其實我們非常公平我可不可以請胡董跟你回答請說 |
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15356.702 |
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因為具體的新聞操作我們那個執行長會比較了解因為統計的關係可能不是這樣我請他說明一下我們是用關鍵字查詢的啦當然你要跟我講陳啟玉是最近才開始剪掉搜索 |
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15357.182 |
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15385.322 |
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但是我要跟你講7月的時候謝榮介就已經在預告會有綠營大咖光電綠能弊案以及8、9月的時候光電綠能相關的一些報導收片各個我們新聞網所提供的這些關鍵字都還是有啦我只是舉例陳起玉而已所以你不要告訴我陳起玉是10月以後有事情好 執行長跟你說好 跟委員報告 |
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在各個月份他都有相關的報導不會偏頗某個政黨那可能是我們在TAG的設計上就是那個TAG的設計上我們可以再做調整也就不會去批評某一個政黨但因為八九月份確實是在這兩個事件他比例是多但是包括像鄭文燦前這個副院長他的新聞在七月以前我們都有做報導這是公平的 |
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15434.957 |
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15452.804 |
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貪腐以及相關的關鍵字難道真的只有這幾個選項嗎?我打一個很大的問號我也希望這個部分能夠加強我還是再一次強調我們沒有你只可以報導誰而是告訴你全部都應該公開公正 |
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15478.933 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
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閱讀委員會提出檢討報告 |
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15511.4 |
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我想在這樣子的一個預算我覺得難辭其咎全民都在看四年58億浪費公帑然後去報導不多元偏袒不公正這部分我們沒有辦法接受那之前呢剛剛大家也很關心喔 |
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15512.386 |
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15537.241 |
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美國大選一結束啊台灣plus把川普總統用重刑犯來做一個描述我想前面都講很多了齁你們說語意上的解釋啊或怎麼樣我直接來講一個大家聽聽看第一個美國大選已經結束了已經結束了你還要做這樣子的報導我覺得對比性上這個真的是非常的不妥齁不管你用什麼語意再來我們用這個原話來我們來看一下這個原話 |
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15559.6 |
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他說美國大選系列報導中一名女記者在鏡頭表示這次的選舉將會成為一個歷史的時刻美國人到底會選出一個女性總統還是一個被定罪的重刑犯看來美國選擇了重刑犯我先不跟你探討重刑犯三個字因為你們說這是語意的問題然後你們也牽扯說多國的媒體也都有這樣子報導但是 |
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15565.525 |
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15593.275 |
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我認為在其他國家描述川普是重刑犯他那個是川普的獨立報導沒有對比台灣Plus的這個問題是他用對比句型一個是女性總統那為什麼你不能對比男性總統那為什麼你要用另外一個形容詞我覺得男詞棋就硬凹啦就女生對男生這樣就好了嘛那為什麼要女生對XXX |
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我覺得這樣子難辭其咎所以我覺得這就是不妥當的一個敘述那當然大家也說川普是一個有仇必報的一個人那我們自己想想看我們自己的總統被外國給這樣子形容 |
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我們會不會覺得很難堪所以現在我們還在討論到底我們要不要去他的就職典禮的時候我在想他會不會忌恨川普我們希望他是一個有大度量的人我們甚至希望台灣PLUS在這時這刻點閱率是1啊 |
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好險我們的下載量只有10萬如果是百萬餘量我跟你講這國際大笑話川普可能都還看到這則新聞此時此刻我多麼希望台灣plus沒人點閱所以前面跟後面真的是我自相矛盾花了這麼多的錢結果你報導出這樣子所以我還是要再次提醒 |
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我們都很希望台灣Plus能夠走出國際但是我們沒有看到這樣子的一個實際運用的話我們很難給你預算所以在後面審預算的時候我們一定會強力的監督甚至不惜如果沒有看到真正的實際的檢討我跟你講這預算我很難讓你們放行我想 |
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後續啊,因為今天時間到了齁,那個召委雖然沒站起來,但是眼睛一直看著我,給我壓力很大齁。那我沒辦法再跟你講第三議題。那我想這個車庫娛樂的一個爭議齁,那後續呢,我們也會再做一個相關的探討。也希望部長,車庫娛樂的部分,我也希望這個部分你能夠重視,希望你先了解一下車庫娛樂的一個爭議。謝謝。 |
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謝謝羅廷偉委員,部長跟董事長請回。我們後面還有一些委員要質詢,但是因為現在時間接近一點,我就跟後面的委員抱歉,我們這個時間就是準時不再延長。質詢的時間4分鐘就不再延長。我們接下來有請翁曉琳委員質詢。 |
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15721.212 |
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有請部長還有胡董事長。好,呂部長跟胡董事長。是,部長還有董事長好。因為我知道其實公共電視法在去年有修法,所以已經解除了政府捐贈給公共電視的經費的天花板。那現在公共電視是每年可以得到文化部有多少的預算補助? |
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15746.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
15748.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
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15765.679 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
總額8.5億元公共電視長期以來基本上在整個的經營方向上我認為其實是有問題的我始終認為公共電視應該是要作為補足商業電視不足 |
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15779.454 |
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15779.814 |
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同意啊。 |
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15833.503 |
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我希望說之後應該要調整過來就是兒少節目的話應該要多做點預算但是本席有發現一個問題就是你們在針對兒少節目的時候其實在去年有一個節目叫做Hello你給問嗎?不知道部長因為我剛有聽說部長是從來不看公共電視的是吧?我沒有說我從來不看公共電視但是幾乎不看公共電視所以胡董事長您知道有這個節目嗎?知道那這個節目呢現在呢停掉了嗎? |
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我們已經第一季做完以後就結束了。為什麼第一季做完就結束了?收視率不好?還是因為選舉結束了?那個時候就是想要有點反差,有小朋友來訪問政治人物。好,我要講的是,針對這個節目其實本席非常有意見的。這個節目是在什麼時候開始做的?去年10月,對不對?去年10月那時候是不是已經非常接近選舉了? |
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| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
閱讀委員會主席 |
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15902.972 |
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我要講其實這是一個嚴重的問題啊。你們試圖用這個節目哈洛你給問用白話文帶領一群國小到高中的學生來試讀政治可是在這個節目裡面其實你們已經有隱含著我未來這個要捧哪一個候選人我覺得這個其實就是一個很嚴重會影響到競選不公平的問題而這些事情現在由公共電視帶頭做起 |
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翁委員您很了解那個法律的規定是講競選活動期間所以我們是在競選活動期間之前這是第一個要說明第二個是我們當時我們就如果同仁要做這個節目我說一定要考慮到候選政黨的平衡所以他們的確是好所以我就說我請對 |
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| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
議員議員議員 |
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15976.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
議員議員議員 |
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15977.591 |
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15977.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
閱讀委員會議 |
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16000.422 |
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16000.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
閱讀委員吳思揚委員 |
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16031.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
李卓人議員 |
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16054.429 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
午思遙有上過。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
16090.345 |
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我同樣的選區同樣的主要的國民黨的競爭對手他也有上過我用這個例子來說明盡可能做到平衡我基本上認為我們透過優質的節目的製播讓更多的公民社會來關切民主社會所進行的選舉我覺得這是不應當把它污名化或罪惡化 |
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16103.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
當然要做到政黨的平衡我支持但就我的選區的個案我可以來做一個親身的例證吳思瑤參加受邀了我的主要競爭對手國民黨籍的候選人也有參與好今天我來講就預算論預算如果未來的才化法修正通過文化預算是重災區我們要來啟動防範跟因應下一頁 |
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16138.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
Judge 6,612億的財化法如果最終是這個版本的話中央政府可以使用的預算可用財源只剩下4,159億。然後文化預算長期以來是弱勢1%的天花板一直難以來超越在我們執政之後蔡英文總統曾經在108年我們突破了1% |
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16168.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
proporto112113因為有前瞻建設所以才突破一趴但是如果我們現在審明年預算回到沒有一趴只剩下0.92趴因為沒有前瞻了我們新年度的預算只有290億下一頁但如果才化法被修惡了被惡修了文化預算就腰斬雪上加霜了我必須整理出這個數字讓所有文化部門的同仁要 |
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16186.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
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16189.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
16212.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
我希望大家要有危機要搶救我們的文化預算下一頁我也去精算了文化部的新興計畫有四項這當中還包括補助地方場館、博物館、地方文化館非常多高達5.85億也包括補助台南的案內影視基地2.02億這些很多新興計畫是受惠於地方的而延續性計畫的十項裡頭 |
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16229.516 |
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厲時五期的文資修復是各個縣市都有也包括我們要加強對桃園市立美術館的興建的補助還有黑潮計畫、台流29億等等。如果新興計畫、延續性計畫加起來14項可能受影響132.5億的文化預算被搬走了而這些業務不是地方政府能夠執行的耶。 |
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所以大家要有這樣的危機意識,下一頁我就講兩件。我請你們來未雨綢繆,如果財化法通過了,被修正了,我們的文化禮金啊,19.5億可能就受影響了。今年我們還同步推動13到15歲的事辦嘛,對不對? |
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| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
16286.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
况且209萬名年輕學生從13至22歲不再享有國家的文化福利,透過文化禮金讓大家進行文化的禁用、文化的消費。又如同歷史舞棋的文資保存,如果前瞻沒有了 |
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| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
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教科文是憲法唯一一個有強制保障比例15%的憲法保障。如果財化法受了影響,中央的財源各部會都會受到波及,而憲法保障文化預算15%教科文,我們就要優先利用這個憲法的武器保護我們的文化預算。部長你認同嗎? |
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| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
16350.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
我今天無非是要拋出才化法大家不要覺得跟你無關跟文化大有關係中央執行的從地方管社到文化資產從表演藝術視覺藝術到影視影產業都需要中央來帶頭 |
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| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
16359.778 |
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我希望我們大家欲做準備未雨綢繆也要一起來發聲搶救文化預算才化法的修正勢必要三思而後行。我們一起加油後續再討論謝謝謝主席謝副主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
16374.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
謝謝福斯雅委員,歡迎常常回來教文質詢。 |
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好,來,接下來我們有請邱志偉委員、邱志偉委員、邱志偉委員不在、賴慧媛委員、賴慧媛委員、賴慧媛委員不在、蔡易宇委員、蔡易宇委員、蔡易宇委員不在、蘇慶權委員、蘇慶權委員不在、鄭天才委員、鄭天才委員、鄭天才委員不在、鄭振前委員、鄭振前委員、鄭振前委員不在、林月琴委員、林月琴委員、林月琴委員不在、吳麗華委員、吳麗華委員、吳麗華委員不在。好,今天登記質詢的委員都已經發言完畢, |
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閱讀完畢,委員所提書面質詢或相關資料列入記錄並刊登公報。對於委員質詢要求提供相關資料或者未及答覆的部分,請相關機關盡速以書面來答覆。 |
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114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部及所屬單位預算案。文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。文化部主管文化發展基金附屬單位預算案。行政法人、國家表演藝術中心、文化內容策進院、國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案。相關提案請於11月28號下午2點前提出,令定期繼續審查。 |
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報告委員會今天議程處理完畢,現在散會。謝謝各位。 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 |
| IVOD_ID |
16294 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16294 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-22-9 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-21T08:31:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-21T13:10:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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