| IVOD_ID |
162760 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162760 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-23T09:47:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-23T09:59:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b58c4cf52db2e91a412b84b384e35c9ab85017248ed72d8db1c1f5e093a479505d8ce9dcc01387985ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:47:18 - 09:59:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、交通部首長及國家科學及技術委員會首長就「因應高齡化社會，我國智慧公共運具發展及目標」進行報告，並備質詢。【6月23日及6月25日二天一次會】） |
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以色列跟伊朗這個軍事衝突一直在升高特別是美國發動攻擊之後現在看起來對經濟的衝擊可能會很大今天可以啊 我們的股市 |
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暴跌了400多點那這個看起來是原油應該會是往上上升的包括牛津經濟研究院都評估說啊再這樣下去啊原油一桶可能會飆升到美元130塊錢那這個可能就帶動物價嘛接下來可能是通膨他甚至認為說連美國這個通膨啊到年底可能都會到6%那我們國內這個對經濟會有衝擊經濟會有做什麼準備嗎 |
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我們確實如委員所垂詢的我們都有做準備我們從這個國際原油價格80塊現在的這個狀況一直推你到您剛才所說的130塊我們分成幾個不同的階段的這個油價都做了這一些情境的分析那麼根據所有的情境分析我們研擬出我們中油應該要有的對策 |
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那麼這裡面當然有考慮到委員所垂詢的這個對CPI影響會有多少我想整體的這個部分不是只有經濟部或者是中油公司在處理這個事情我們行政院經濟部的上級長官對這個命題也非常非常的重要所以我們都整體有在對這個荷姆茲海峽的封鎖所造成的影響做出各種的推論對 |
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這個非常重要啦所以冰淚白其實賴總統有召開國安會議嘛那現在看起來上禮拜開完之後現在這個衝突是在升高的因為美國出手了美國發動攻擊然後今天最新的消息是伊朗的國會已經通過了開始要封鎖荷摩茲這個海峽所以這個問題是在加劇當中部長你要不要利用這個機會跟前面講經濟部要怎麼樣去安定人心對經濟衝擊最小 |
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經濟部我們對這種各種的狀況都有研擬我們都有研擬所以我想這個全國國人應該可以放心我們對80塊的時候應該怎麼做對90塊怎麼做100塊會怎麼做都有各種不同的情境分析那麼對各種的變數影響都有做出具體的因應的模式這個不是只有經濟部 |
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一個部門在做的事情也不是中油公司一家公司在應應的事情這是整體行政院我們跨部會都有做一些這些的準備民眾非常關心你看股市那麼敏感一下就跌了400點了然後世上代總統跟總理長一定會再問你因為看起來是在這個戰情在升溫當中好不好那接下來要問一個人命關天的這個事情 |
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這個在媒體啊跟這個網路上啊罵聲連連這非常嚴重的一件事情就是高雄的大樹村51公頃的山山被鏟平了樹被砍掉了人命的關天而且前幾天這個地方 |
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一場暴雨啊 滾滾的那個黃石衝下來當地的民眾來陳情 也抗議了 媒體說 媒體一個形容說什麼有可能會變成是以前小林村 媚村一個很大的一個悲劇所以現在要趕快要處理這個問題不然你們看這個圖 你們看這是一座山 51公頃喔結果山被鏟平了 右上角全部鋪了光電板 |
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下面不遠的地方就是一個社區前陣子一場暴雨那個土石已經沖下來了這是非常嚴重的一個問題那今天特別要問你的是我在11日11號提出了這個質詢問農業部部長之後我看你們的那個高雄市政府馬上去處理你們在6月13號能源署開罰了150萬 |
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對不對 可是高雄市政府現在更進一步囉他現在不是說光開闊一百五啊他說要求你們能源署要做進一步這個處理包括除色洗殼都要廢掉我們先來看喔 你看現場不然另外你看一下剛剛那個是空照圖這個是陳情的民眾當地民眾拍下來的你看 這個擋土牆一山被鏟平了擋土牆竟然只有做一半 |
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多危險啊 下一個 你看 這邊這個黨主席有說這樣這個合法合規嗎 多危險的事情 再來看不是一個地方欸很多地方都有很大的問題現在國融基金會明確要求 它說這個責任包括匯除除色席殼是經濟部的責任經濟部要匯除他們的除色席殼嗎 |
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報告委員 基本上我們一定會廢除他的酬赦許可但是必須要在高雄市政府把他的文件發出以後我們會即刻來廢止他的酬赦許可這個高雄市政府是在一個禮拜前就開了會啦 6月18號來看這個說水土保守法 地 來看上一張 水土保守法 |
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第三十三條 他們已經發了一百零八萬然後高雄省政府還把這個案子已經移送到地檢署去申辦了然後他們除了要求要停工之外要求能源署 你看 保證 你看明明確確他一天白天就要求能源署要撤銷他的許可要終止這個開發 |
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文件還沒到你那邊是不是文件他還沒有發高雄市政府還沒有發出來能源署沒有辦法依照這個所發出來的文件來執行我們應該做的這個作為嘛所以跟委員報告只要高雄市政府發出這個文件我們能源署立馬就發出停止他這個施工的這個許可就是一收到 |
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馬上立即停止他撤銷他的酬赦席可對不對依法有據嘛依法有據我們必須要根據這個來這個都送到地檢署了柏弟這個是命關天的事情我們完全同意您的說法嘛這個也是依法所有的這個能源署我想我們都是依法依規在執行我們的任務所以您剛才所垂詢的這個部分我們一開始 |
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就是完全跟您的這個說法是完全一樣我們馬上做出這個決定只是我們現在在等高雄市政府的這個文件已經一個禮拜了不要變成兩邊在踢皮球喔回去以後可能要查要追一下到底文來的沒有好不好那如果文來的部長已經受了宣示了嘛趕快要停止我們每天都在查這件事情啦這個大家這個社會這麼關注的這個命題我們不可能在那個地方什麼事情都不做 |
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那個高雄市政府真的是牛不化了陳其邁每天在衝衝衝是個軟男對不對一個文一個禮拜這個委員你大概沒有待過市政府啦所以我想你不能這樣批評高雄市市長人命關天喔 |
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第一個前陣子已經有一場大雨土石已經下來了第二個現在風太低對不對我們大家所關心的我們大家所關心的我們大家所關心的但是即使大家所關心的方向是一樣做法大家都非常的努力但是報告委員我們必須要依照法令上面所進行的程序去把它做完備 |
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不可能說跳脫法律允許的範圍我們這個超前去做這個部分在政府是不允許的你看不只居民全國民眾等下就會跟你反映了一個人命關天的事情一個公文履行了拖延了一個禮拜你要幫他講話而且現在是颱風的這個季節欸要快一點啦要快一點啦現在是跟時間在賽跑在搶救人命啦好 那 博定不是只有這個案子同樣在高雄啊 |
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還有一個在祁山區啊這個碼頭山的這個也是光電的開發你看這個碧安這麼多他這次是 這個山是多少啊55公頃一段講一段更加嚴重然後他還是一個兩條活動斷層跟泥沿地這個二地之間這個如果一開發啊 |
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第一個 你看穿山甲 水鹿 豬鯉這些稀有動物的棲息可能都受到問題然後對那個地質衝擊也會非常大法定這案我要處理啦 來時間有限齁 我趕快 趕快我們做四個結論第一個 |
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因為現在不要變成是踢皮球啦高雄市政府說很多責任都在中央的內政部經濟部跟農業部所以我請經濟部因為是你們核准的嘛第一個做一件事情把你們當初核定的範圍土地的數量跟總面積還有你們中央的責任跟地方責任把它清清楚楚的一定好不好這個聞了到你們那邊嘛對不對然後第二個 |
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山坡地的開發要更嚴格因為目前這個規範啊山坡地以前都沒有做環評山坡地是不是另外要受到限制要整體趕快來檢討 好不好另外這個案子啊一年喔 光是營收可以賺大概4.2億結果目前為止高雄聖聖湖的財閥才財閥還罰了180萬能源署去罰了150萬要幫他訂五個 |
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這根本就沒有影響啊對他來講4.2億欸一年算4.2億欸你這個財閥太低了所以我明確的要求 |
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因為他有可能被你們撤銷對不對然後他還規定喔你如果初期借滿之後這個土地還要復原欸那山已經被你產平了怎麼去復原所以這個東西要好好去追究好最後做一個要求因為現在看起來山坡地不是只有剛剛講這兩個案子嘛不然你能答應我嗎一個月內關於你的光電推動裡面如果有次山坡地能不能一個月提出一個整體的報告跟解決方案 |
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好 可以好 我定這位搶救人命啦真的要跟時間賽跑這不是等鬥熊4台運這麼慢來啦卡個電話算什麼問題 好不好老實講如果最近發生颱風 |
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鬧出人品外購 這個不是行政責任喔這個有刑事責任喔 好不好我們跟市政府 加油我們跟高雄市政府啊 我們在上個禮拜就已經針對這個命題進入深度的這個研究了我們並沒有像你才講說 漠不關心啦這一點我必須要在這個地方說明一下 |
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一個禮拜就是要有一些就是要法定規定啊人家高雄市政府都已經說我們將來可以來這個地方受一些修法請這個委員來幫忙啦謝謝委員現在趕快跟時間賽跑一個禮拜算太久了趕快趕快你既然有聯絡趕快加快速度好不好民眾都在等跟時間賽跑搶救人命謝謝好 |