| IVOD_ID |
162743 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162743 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-19T12:36:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-19T12:42:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/19817250edeb8a731776f93b79beec15eab13042bab466e3f5cc7c241d129cfc41d823e46ab58e485ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳昭姿 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:36:12 - 12:42:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、衛生福利部邱部長泰源、法務部、海洋委員會海巡署就「近三年菸酒管理法對於私菸（含電子菸 加熱菸）查緝成效與菸品健康捐經費分配及運作使用情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【6月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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兩年前煙害防治法他修法了他把這個加熱菸納管也就是說加熱菸只要審查通過那就可以來合格在台灣上市使用可是修法已經過了兩年到目前為止還沒有任何一件審查案通過可是國健署今年初有講他說第一件這個加熱菸的健康風險評估在四月的時候會出爐 |
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但是我們去查國建署的這個網站他所公布的進度目前為止所有都還在審查中請問國建署是受到壓力還是有意要拖延呢兩年多來沒有一件通過然後今年初四月會通過第一件 |
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謝謝委員的詢問因為大家很清楚 委員也是專家健康風險評估審查 我們是委員會 依法審查我們都尊重委員的專列以人民的健康為主我意思是說今年初有說4月會通過第一件我們期待4月底能夠有一個答案是這樣的一個想法我只是想提醒 健康風險評估是科學 |
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結果要不要公佈不要變成政治因為大家都心知肚明台灣現在很多人都在抽加熱菸立法院有好幾位委員在抽但其實這都是違法的那你這樣拖著結果是什麼樣讓人民無所適從你要合法的人守法的人他就在等結果可以抽就抽也許不能就不能但是你不守法變最大變最大 |
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情況就是如此 加熱菸滿街 剛剛滿街跑 大家都 每個委員都提到了博定我是要跟你說 你要抓一百個人 還可以抓啦如果有一百萬人要抓的話 你怎麼進行呢 博定所以要趕快公布審查結果啊 不要拖啊什麼時候公布結果呢 |
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包委員 我想今天我一直在提過 這個審查我們是按照規定的 兩年前的辦法沒有啦 委員會我也參加一大票啊那審查這麼久了 兩年多你又不審查要價 你是審查價格 你是審查風險評估 這是科學啊科學多少證據就講出來啊 就是這樣啊 |
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據我了解其實他們看的真的是很多需要科學的根據那所以一直要業者一直在科學就科學就是說科學不要當政治處理加熱菸我覺得就是我在為法院主委常常跟你講那句話 |
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這個就像有一隻大象在房間裡那個英文叫There is an elephant in the room就是大家都視而不見大象那麼大你當作沒看到當作沒有看到那根據陰害防止法其實合法的止煙都不可以在網路上販賣可是現在網路上你隨便Google都能買到違法未經政府允許的許可的加熱煙你看中間那個黃色的那個地方 |
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賣家還宣稱 三天到臥品質保證 健康享受伯弟 你就放任這個東西這樣放的嗎蓄意放水 還是你根本沒有能力處理你看廣告成這個樣子 |
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報告委員 那個其實在過去我們妨礙到這個NI防治法的案件我們已經處理了四萬六千多件尤其在今年114件監測案件裡面下架啦 把它下架了有94%不好意思跟你說 還很多啦所以你越不快趕快處理這個事情你就拖越久嘛 等幾百萬人你就管不了我想這些問題我們有責任把它處理好我們也會負責任的來把它處理好 |
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加熱煙是可以有條件審查通過電子煙是禁止的除了對這個健康是高風險的危害那也很容易放入毒品是不是例如易脫米子就是俗稱的喪屍的煙彈你去問任何一個第一線的員警他們都知道現在是氾濫成災但衛福部的預告的煙害防治法我要請大家聽清楚你只強調販售端跟製造端的規範卻沒有禁止持有 |
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那你叫那第一線的那個警察無法查緝啊也沒辦法沒辦法銷毀啊部長你如果不去禁止持有你要怎麼杜絕那個喪屍煙彈呢而且電子煙就是喪屍煙彈的載具嘛他是他的載具嘛你不從源頭著手那你這個法你怎麼杜絕呢 |
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我們當然有從源頭還有換賣抓到以後以前地方政府在抓的時候他們最大的問題是沒辦法我們就講這個 禁止持有你要不要禁止持有你只有製造跟販售端嘛要禁止持有你這個沒有列入你的修法裡面嘛 |
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趕快改 趕快改我們有列入新的修法的內容我們新的修法 會處理這一個部分拜託中部長您上來就是說現在糖 台北總統一直在講說這個健康台灣 糖對人體有很大的危害肥胖 糖尿病 心血管病 脂肪肝 痛風等等 |
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尤其糖尿病是在前十大死因之一已經很多年了我要告訴大家糖尿病大家都不知道糖尿病病人罹患癌症有百分之十到二十五罹患癌症病人當中有十到二十五是有糖尿病的這個糖的部分的管理對家庭的經濟健保的負擔都很重我現在請教莊部長 莊部長您對糖稅 |
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您對唐穗的見解如何?目前沒有這樣的規劃沒有這樣的規劃?沒有這樣的規劃?邱部長你也沒有這樣的規劃嗎? |
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你也沒有這樣規劃嗎?邱部長也沒有嗎?不是說健保沒錢嗎?關心糖尿病 關心身體健康 要多元化來照顧那我們當然可以鼓勵大家吃糖的飲料 |