| IVOD_ID |
162701 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162701 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-36,15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-19T09:56:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-19T10:04:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/19817250edeb8a73b45bc243acaa4b35c914d80f272b5bb4fe48e1f12328ce24f699acf6b854a81e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:56:16 - 10:04:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：一、併案審查（一）委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人、（二）台灣民眾黨黨團、（三）委員張智倫等17人、（四）委員葉元之等21人及（五）委員羅美玲等18人分別擬具「內政部組織法第五條條文修正草案」案。
二、併案審查（一）台灣民眾黨黨團、（二）委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人、（三）國民黨黨團、（四）委員張智倫等17人、（五）委員葉元之等21人及（六）委員羅美玲等18人分別擬具「內政部新住民發展署組織法草案」案。） |
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好,謝謝主席,我們請內政部次長還有考選部、全序部跟陸委會考選部、全序部、陸委會,請代表上台好,部長你是這個新住民這個發安署的籌備的負責人,不管叫什麼職稱這個我們在新住民定義裡頭,叫中古人 |
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那是新住民嘛 中國人有中華民國國籍嘛 變成新住民來 陸委會委員好請問一下 你的報告裡面說新住民新的單位 發展署 新立了啦叫你們沒有應用 都叫你們沒有管的 是這樣嗎 |
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報告委員 陸委會的意思是說我們沒有業務跟人員要移撥但不是說這個新住民的照顧跟陸委會無關陸委會的那個報告不是這個意思業務沒有要移撥所以中國的新住民要找陸委會沒有找這個新的署 |
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報告委員 因為陸委會負責是政策協調沒有啦 我這麼問你是好 海基委啦 陸委會 海基委中國的新住民 來到台灣之後有新住民身份 不用找這個書啊我們還是再找你們陸委會跟海基委對不對都是一起合作的啊不是一起合作啦 現在就是中國的新住民回到台積啊我們還是要提供協助啊 |
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還是要提供協助市長找你們嗎我想是婚姻移民的部分是新住民身份依照基本法第二條規定的那我相信這個陸委會跟我們的話應該是合作分工啦你們討論過嗎 |
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我召開小組的部分也有請陸委會來給我們一些意見還有分工了沒我們還在討論還沒定案當然啦因為我們因為陸委會報告裡面說業務沒有移撥剛剛陸委會講的部分是指那個就既有的業務哪一些是要移撥到新住民的是這個部分是純粹細項的業務好那它沒有移撥那你們的業務你們這個新的這個屬的業務有跟中國新住民有關的嗎 |
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應該是身份別啦身份別如果他是大陸的配偶是婚姻移民的部分那當然跟新住民就有關了好第二我請問一下考選部或權敘部啦來有雙重國籍的人可不可以當中華民國的公務員 |
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法委員依照公務人考試法要取得戶籍有身份才能參加公務人考試好所以我們這個新的署的署長、副署長、主任、秘書可不可以是中國人在上面回答 |
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依據公園任用法的規定就是不能有雙重國籍那至於那個兩岸條例有規定說就是如果是大陸地區人民的話那兩岸條例有相關規範規定是什麼啦現在就有一個中國人 |
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中國人婚姻移民來台灣啊,是中華民國的國籍啦他是中國人啦,是中華民國的國籍他可不可以當署長、副署長、主任秘書啦這個是在兩岸條例裡面的規範所以兩岸條例因為這是屬於陸委會的權責來,陸委會 |
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報告委員 依照兩岸條例第21條的規定那大陸人如果取得台灣的身份必須涉及滿10年才可以擔任公教人員所以他前提是要拿到身份證之後還要滿10年那他要當署長 要不要出事他要放棄中華人民共和國的戶籍那依照工人任用法嗎 |
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依照任用法的規定就是說如果當事人他沒有辦法放棄國籍不可規則於他的話 雖然不只是在中國大陸啦現在中國人很聰明啦 不會國籍 戶籍 我在說戶籍出事要放棄戶籍證明 他可以來做我們這個署的署長 |
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包委員依照兩岸條例他一定要放棄大陸的戶籍在拿到台灣身份證之後三個月內他一定要返回大陸取得註銷戶籍的證明資料給移民署好 現在最近不是在查這個什麼戶籍放棄的嗎對 現在正在查好 他就搞不出來他說年代久遠啊交不出來的那交不出來你們有變通方法嘛 對不對對 我們有一些這變通了他可以當署長或署長主任秘書嗎包委員 |
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如果是他有特殊的狀況的時候,我們有說他可以拒絕或延後但是他本身如果還是拒絕,他還是拒有他會做署長或署長主任秘書嗎?如果是屬於大陸地區人民的部分,這還是有依照兩岸條例的規定辦理不是啊,你不是全序部的嗎? |
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我們主管公人任用法,那至於大陸地區人民因為他比較特殊,所以他的相關規範是在兩岸條例裡面去規範我正在問,你題目就這樣不是啊,你全序部,他要來救我們署長、副署長、主任秘書,把三名送到全序部去,你總是要準還是不準啊 |
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就是我們會就是針對兩岸條例規範的相關內容如果有疑義的話我們還是會把你那雞湯鴨醬這地方這麼清楚中外民國全巿部會派來的人回答不出來中國人可以做我們的署長 副署長 主席秘書全巿部說不出來你敢不想哭啊你敢不想哭 |
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你到底是在怕什麼啦,可以就可以,不可以就不可以啊這公分三個你到哪裡去,你自己去問陸委會他如果說還是屬於大陸地區人民的話,他是不能擔任公務人員好,來,接下來這一個考選部 |
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423.035 |
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428.518 |
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這個委員有人提案,說醫療新住民的什麼國家考試,由這個新的單位來負責,你的看法呢?我們中華民國有任何的新分,科技交給部會去科技的嗎? |
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442.128 |
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470.701 |
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包委員這部分確實跟考試院的限定職長還有考選部的組織的權責有漢格之處那我進一步說明一下這是憲法規定的啦是是是因為考試考試為考試院長理的事項嘛那考試院為了辦理所謂的全國公務人員考試跟專門接技術人員考試的考選行政所以設有考選部那考選部依照我們的組織法的事項你是有意的啦對 是 |
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471.601 |
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496.005 |
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你們是唯一的嘛 是是是所以這條你們要堅持啊有 我們有提出書面意見你做美當說交通部的要考什麼都叫交通部自己去考取外交部的都叫外交部來你考取中外民國的國家要考取的就是考選部附近嘛考試院的考選部附近嘛我們為了某一個新聞說那個新聞的考取國家考試要做中外民國公務人員那個單位自己考取 |
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499.446 |
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514.085 |
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把地震用 開一條門之下這不通這不通 這你們要堅持有 我們有提書面報告好 謝謝那王委員 需不需要他們用書面回覆你剛剛那個問題不用啦 不用齁 |