| IVOD_ID |
162663 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162663 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,26,22-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T13:46:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T13:55:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552a6b1f9aeb33a1a7345c8a36db9e18c27b9be1ababaaa47466cfd5e39c6a8a3cb35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:46:49 - 13:55:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
二、本院委員何欣純等19人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第十二條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第四條、第六條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
五、本院委員羅美玲等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。(詢答)
（第一案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查。）） |
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下一位請陳廷飛委員發言謝謝主席我們請主委請主委 |
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主委辛苦了我想我們賴總統有說要成立主權基金來打造國家級的投資平台我們要放眼全球投資國際市場打造國家級的投資平台這個是我們總統然後做了一個宣示那當然也希望說運用我們台灣產業的優勢由政府主導來協同我們民間的力量 |
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民间企业的力量来布局全球连接AI时代作为我们主要目标市场那这个部分把这个重责大任好像现在是归于国发会来协助这样相关的规划是不是 |
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我們有協助一部分協助一部分對的那我們現在在積極的也在拜訪各個主權基金然後我們希望從他們身上得到很多經驗包括從設立包括籌資包括經營管理他們遇到的困難我們都希望把第一手資料通通收集 |
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因為現在有90個國家然後大概有成立了180黨的主權基金所以我們現在在蒐集這相關的資料我們蒐集幾個主要的國家尤其是亞洲跟我們鄰近的像韓國、新加坡那像管理上透明度比較高的挪威所以我們主要現在是蒐集亞洲國家的部分包括像挪威的主權基金是透明度最高我們也希望參考他的透明度管理 |
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所以我覺得應該是要分別不一樣的他的特色我們針對每一個國家他的主權基金的一個特色然後符合我們國家台灣推動的方向這才是比較重要我們才能做盤整這個很重要因為我們未來規劃主權基金我們的目標 |
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我們要朝哪一個目標其實很重要我們如果說要強化跟全球佈局資本的能量還是產業的轉型與升級或是對抗外部的經濟壓力或是要引進國際技術跟資源其實它有不一樣的所以它有可能是追求報酬型的或是扶持產業型的所以我覺得這個所有的架構要非常清楚 |
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對 這個我們都有考慮到 甚至還有一種是兩者合在一起的 就策略家那像新加坡是拆成兩個主權基金 GIC是保守型的 那淡馬錫是財務型的所以我們都會一起參考下來 然後變成一個政府的共識跟方向 |
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因為其實當賴總統丟出這個主權基金其實大家都在看我們政府怎麼規劃對尤其是我們現在國家看起來在目前這個局勢下我們很需要這樣的力量沒錯因為整個國際情勢的一個改變所以我們到底未來要定專法還是我們的主則機關是誰組織架構要怎麼定其實這還有很多的路要走沒錯好所以 |
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包括怎么管理等等对怎么管理然后怎么筹措相关的财源到底我们是要用这个有偿给付的动用外汇存底或是税计剩余或是由我们政府来发行一个公债的筹资这个其实很多 |
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沒錯很多其實規模會有多大也是要我們整個討論出來之後才能去訂定沒錯沒錯對不對所以這個主權基金還有一段路要走所以辛苦了我覺得我們面對國際的情勢我們一定要準備好各種的狀態我們都要準備好包括主權基金未來的規模組織或是由誰來做一個相關的推動 |
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哇 這個知識體大辛苦 我覺得我們國防會必須把所有的資料做一個很完整的提供這樣子才能給我們總統或是相關單位做一個很好的判斷這個部分再拜託那另外一個區塊就是我們國家人才競爭力的部分也就是我們在這一次我們外國專業人才延攬及僱用法這個部分其實主委你記不記得 |
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我在第一時間您就任的時候我曾經跟您討論過說這個外國專業人才的研論跟雇用這個是目前非常重要的區塊因為很多所有的國家都在求人才可是我們的動作實在是太慢了 |
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對不對 我們動作實在是太慢了我們現在才提出這個外國專業人才延攬及雇用法人已經都早在前面了但是呢 我們一直期待的是我們既然要修 就一次把它修好 |
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收集所有全世界各国的资讯到底他们在人才的培育人才的吸引跟人才的一个招揽的部分到底他们有什么诱因我们希望给予更多的资讯所以呢我们希望这一次的修法是可以真正帮我们的企业而且是能够让他们真正延揽到真正的人才 |
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所以我們希望說這個誘因你認為這一次修法誘因這個部分有到位了嗎這個誘因還需要其他的輔助性的協助啦所謂輔助性的協助是什麼譬如說我們現在在AI實像建設裡面我們有一個協助產業透過AI升級 |
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包括以工具機產業來講它可能需要產品的數位化它需要管理上透過數位化也同時降低對人力的需求等等我們這些都會有一個配套措施一起所以這個配套是要跟經濟部整個把它合併在一起的包括我們現在研議一個到2030年擴大內需方案那我們已經進行了第一次的報告那我們正在修正這裡面都會把它配套整在一起 |
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所以除了我們有這個延攬人才的這樣的一個法規的修正以外我們重點還有這些配套尤其我們現在面臨的是AI數位科技近鄰轉型這些你都要把它拿出來如果說今天我們的產業沒有轉型就算這些人才來到台灣也沒有用 |
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他必須要面臨轉型讓他有辦法讓我們這些人才能夠來協助讓他們能夠到位是不是所以我認為這個部分我們一定要趕快因為現在全世界整個經濟的動態還有他的調整脈絡實在是太快了是的 |
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這種快是我們有時候我們稍微停一下那就對不對了所以我們認為說包括2030年我們所提的這個大計畫然後我們如何讓我們的整個傳統產業也好中小企業也好相關的科技產業也好他們怎麼面臨我們數位科技AI產業進行轉型來做一個非常好的一個配套調整 |
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那跟我們後續整個攬財是有直接關係的所以那個主委麻煩一下我覺得這個停不了我們現在開始走就要一路走一路走而且你要讓我們企業有感除了我們修了這個讓他們有一些誘因讓他們可以進到台灣來可是轉型配套還是最關鍵的是的所以再拜託主委好 謝謝謝謝委員 |