| IVOD_ID |
162660 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162660 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,26,22-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T13:24:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T13:34:56+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552ada4a1e7471afd4125c8a36db9e18c27b9be1ababaaa47466c9aefdf55a054d255ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:24:27 - 13:34:56 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
二、本院委員何欣純等19人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第十二條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第四條、第六條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
五、本院委員羅美玲等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。(詢答)
（第一案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查。）） |
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下一位請鄭天才委員詢問主席有請主委有請主委 |
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好 主委好好這個我們去年也有這個討論這個今天的法案的修正那我們先看這個去年5月22號國發會的報告裡面特別提到 |
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截至到113年3月底子外國專業人才有效期可56,427人比106年底本法施行前的3927人增加了超過八成這個以今年的話有沒有新的數字 |
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今年有一個數字,但是我可能還要再去查清沒關係,再書面提供這個外國專業人才延攬及僱用法從民國106年11月22號制定到現在也曾經有兩次的修正 |
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那對於這個106年11月22號公布施行到現在應該也要做一些檢討但是目前的檢討的方向是還要擴大我就就很納悶了好我們看這個這次的行政院版本第六條這個行政院版本 |
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將這個原來的現行條文第六條這個外國人取得國內外大學之受試以上協會或教育部公告世界頂尖大學之學士以上協會 |
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這個修正為排名前一千名世界大學排名前一千名也就是世界頂尖大學本來是五百名五百名擴大增加一倍變成一千名然後這個無息積備一定期間的工作經驗這個當然你們的立法理由也寫了但是我們要考量的是我們 |
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如果我們從剛才講的106年制定這個法顯然教育部真的是要負最大的責任為什麼呢我們的大學生我們的壽司生非常的多然後竟然竟然現在要106之後到現在我不知道國發會 |
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國發會當然主委你不知道國發會過去在跟教育部有沒有討論過我們台灣需要怎麼樣的專業人才相關的學校能不能培育這方面的專業人才有嗎有討論過嗎這個是有討論的喔那我們目前這方面如果以科技來講我們STEM的人才我們一年有6萬多人 |
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現在最主要是說我們到2028年我們的勞動需求量是要48萬但是我們自己的畢業生只有18萬也就是說有30萬的缺口其中12萬是我們預估是在白領18萬在藍領我們有12萬的缺口所以我們希望擴大吸引更多的人進來補這個缺口主委 |
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這個教育部因為今天來的我覺得來的都不對啊來的沉嚴啊國教署來這邊幹嘛啊這個跟高教高教師有關係啊怎麼是國教署來我就不懂啊這個好 |
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國教署是高中以下的學生的那個我是不懂不是不懂我很納悶應該說我很納悶怎麼會是國教署的人來了所以其實我很想跟他們討論但是是不是請這個國發會還有教育部提供到底從106年到現在事實上應該是106年之前 |
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就應該要跟教育部講說國內的人才的需求是哪些希望能夠增加這方面的學生的需求你要告訴學生高中生要告訴他我們有這方面的需求未來的收入會很好 |
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需要這方面的學生就會往那邊去報考這都是有連帶關係的好我們看這個第11條的修正新增的世界大學排名前200名大學之學士以上學位在我國從事專業工作這個部分這是新增的這個到底是怎麼樣我們都是需要再討論的我們看這個第12條 |
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這個也是新增的條文外國人取得我國副學士以上協會者以應屆畢業生之身份取得內政部移民署席可延期居留期間在我國從事工作沒有寫專業工作從事工作這個到底是要禁用怎麼樣的人禁用從事怎麼樣的工作 |
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可以說出來嗎這個是針對已經來台灣念書的僑外生那我們在台灣念書的僑外生他取得這個他們畢業之後可以給他一個比較寬裕的找工作的時間那我們過去時間過短那造成我們有70%的僑外生願意留在台灣但是只有48%的人有留下來這邊從條文裡面看是看不出來是僑外生 |
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在你們的說明都是講喬惠森但是從這個文字條文啊從條文的文字是看不出來因為他在我國取得啦取得我國就是在我國學校就學才會取得我國的副學士學位嘛 |
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以上者包括大學研究所博士都是符合這個這句話的這個沒有寫說因為你剛剛主委特別講僑外生是不是這個是只限於僑外生要不要做比較明確的規範好那我們來研究好不好謝謝委員好我們來看這個剛才的條文這個你們的一個簡報裡面2011年 |
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這個博士畢業61982壽士畢業69萬學士畢業300多萬專科畢業200多萬2022年增加博士畢業的增加了4萬人 |
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受试毕业的增加了51万从2011到2022年总数这是总数51万多协试毕业171万所以这个部分其实我们我就会很疑惑 |
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表示我们的招生是随便任大学随便开班没有特别针对我们需要的专业人才来特别去鼓励我们的高中职的学生去考或者是我们的学士毕业的人专科毕业的人去考产生这样的一个问题而事实上如果我们看受试学士就业率 |
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有110年來看我們斜市的就業率只有59.02%我們現在還要大量的進壽市就業率67.26%所以這樣的一個情形為什麼上次去年審查會沒有完成就是因為我們 |
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更擔心我們的現在的學生,現在的已經畢業的這些學士、碩士,會不會造成到時候,尤其是首得,首得更低,平均3萬塊而已,平均薪資, |
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所以這個部分都是我們必須要去思考的部分我們在審查的時候再好好的這個我們會找勞動部做進一步的分析讓委員知道大概有多少人出國 多少人怎麼樣我們會把它進一步分析我建議稍微下次審查的時候教育部的最起碼高教師以上最好是次長能夠來 以上就建議 謝謝好 謝謝委員 |
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好 謝謝鄭天才 |