| IVOD_ID |
162625 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162625 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,26,22-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T11:59:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T12:05:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552a6156745b9bdf51935c8a36db9e18c27ba48dd392130a67363aac5e6b56f0ec5f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:59:53 - 12:05:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
二、本院委員何欣純等19人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第十二條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第四條、第六條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
五、本院委員羅美玲等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。(詢答)
（第一案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查。）） |
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好,謝謝主席,有請劉主委來,請劉主委主委,今天金融會來審查這個外國專業人才延攬及僱用法的這個修正草案這對目前生不如死的台灣是非常重要的然後大家都很清楚嘛,台灣就邁入到超高齡的社會那剛剛陳委員也特別提到生育的問題你知道五月初生 |
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已經又破了最新的出征率你知道你有掌握嘛所以要吸引這個國外的優秀的專業人才進到台灣服務甚至喜歡台灣最後定居台灣那是一個非常正確的一個政策所以我們要趕快推嘛那透過這樣的一個修法但是我現在提出了一個疑問就是說我們是真的要招攬這個外國的優秀人才嗎我們是真的要招攬外國的優秀人才嗎 |
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我們是真的有這個打是真的假的嗎?是真的假的嗎?是真的對不對?是你覺得我們招募現在的外國專業財最低的薪資是多少?47900多47971嘛對這個從以前定格到現在多久時間? |
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我想職場不外乎要友善那職場友善有一個重中之重就是所謂的薪資嘛對不對如果47971我們從頭到尾都定格到現在這個階段那你可以簡單的對照台灣的基本工資從106年2109元一直到現在28590元從小英執政到賴清德政府執政已經調了9次了 |
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那今天我們真的是今天我們要招募外國的專業人才來到台灣喜歡台灣甚至定居在台灣那他們的最低基本的薪資還定格在4797你覺得這樣合理嗎這樣的台灣的職場對外國的專業人士會覺得他是一個吸引 |
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159.19 |
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的一個地方嗎不管我們的自由民主制度不管我們的居住環境不管我們所有的很多的這樣的一個友善都可以達到他們的期待但是如果薪資維持在這個地方你覺得吸引力足夠嗎是真的要招募外國的專業人才來台灣大家一起努力打拚嗎 |
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其實這個數字對企業來講是一個參考值那當然這個調整是有調整的空間因為我們現在經常性薪資平均已經到63,000了是可以調整的那只是說在這個薪資裡面他有工作零年經驗有一年經驗兩年經驗三年經驗 |
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那這是給企業一個參考,不得低於這個數字不得低於嘛,對,這個不得低於,台灣有具體基本工資嘛,也是不得低於嘛但是我們從小英執政一直到現在,台灣以前被稱作低薪島,主委應該知道嘛,對不對那還有我們講執政之後,前八年一直到賴清德政府執政,調了九次,才來到28590嘛 |
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208.306 |
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這個就是最低壓這個也是讓我們所有的台灣的企業去做參考聘用本勞的一個參考依據嘛對啊那我們是不是讓我們來協調勞動部來進行這個來看看怎麼樣來做一個調整 |
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230.638 |
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這個要趕快來討論了吧 好不好 主委真的啦 因為我們要面對這個事情嘛然後你看 當時為什麼會規定設定這個7,971元這是有歷史背景的嘛就是不要讓 |
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我們要這些外國專業人才變成外國的廉價勞力嘛所以我們才去訂這樣嘛但是不可能通通不動啊桃園現在在應 桃園市政府現在在應徵清潔隊員4000多人入企435不到10%一個月薪資45000一個月薪資45000 |
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258.779 |
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好 那剛剛我們特別講當時這個外國禁用的專業人士最低47多對照我們當時的21多是差了2萬6現在已經拉到1.9萬 |
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269.943 |
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299.058 |
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對不對 什麼時候會拉到齊平 我不曉得但是看起來從物價 從每年做這樣的調整從小一直到現在那個速度會慢慢的加快的接近中嘛對 好 所以我們盡快找勞動部來討論這個事情一個月 一個月內可不可以一個月內 沒問題因為我再提供一個訊息給你就是我們組織署已經有公布四月份台灣的平均薪資是來到四萬七千八百零七元 |
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301.658 |
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320.756 |
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47807元所以這個如果再不去調整會不會導致雇主在用年選上也會壓縮到這個本國白領勞工的這樣的一個機會是有這個可能的對不對因為當時我們是不希望說他是也有雇主應用這個禁用外國的專業人士的時候是用假白領的這樣的名義來引進藍領的外國人力所以我們去設定這樣 |
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325.78 |
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337.347 |
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但是時間已經這麼久了對真的有其必要調整我們盡快來解決好不好 主委所以希望一個月內把相關的一些演繹可以提供出來好的 好不好好 謝謝好 謝謝主席好 |