| IVOD_ID |
162489 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162489 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-12 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-12T10:35:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-12T10:47:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:35:51 - 10:47:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會（事由：「我國媒體議價制度立法」公聽會） |
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謝謝召委一開始想先利用這個時間跟今天所有與會學者專家還有我們媒體界的先進說聲謝謝 |
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謝謝你們利用自己這麼寶貴的時間幫這一部重要的法律案今天所提出來的提綱提出了非常多具體的建言這些建言一定在我們接下來審議的過程當中會納入考慮相對的我對於今天的行政部門所提出來的書面報告我只有四個字叫失望透頂 |
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叫失望透頂請你們自己打開你們今天交來的報告四個提綱結果書面報告裡面全部都在寫空話全部都在寫空話說邀集各立法 立害關係的人來討論來研議我講不客氣啦 |
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我請確的GPT針對這四個提綱啊討出來的內容啊比你們主管機關所提出來的書面報告啊都還要具體完成啊我也建議召委啊以後開這種會行政機關啊交這種敷衍了事的報告直接拖回去啊請他們重寫啊開什麼玩笑啊這件事情拖延多久了拖延多久了 |
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拖到今天報告還在打官腔打太極四個提綱你們之前沒有看到嗎你們回去對一下你們今天加上來的報告有回應這四個提綱具體的提問嗎強制議價的立場是什麼設置基金的立場是什麼各個黨團委員所提出來的版本有哪些不足 |
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從行政機關的立場認為需要修改需要補強建議的修正條文要不要提出來通通沒有交這種報告啊我不客氣的講啊浪費紙張傷害地球啊一堆垃圾招委人好啊這種報告都收如果是我前一天拿到我退回去要你們重寫啊 |
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你們對照一下人家沒有領錢來參加公定會的專家學者寫的報告再看看你們行政機關交上來的報告 可以看喔丟人現眼台灣民眾黨黨團的立場非常清楚強制溢價 設立基金 雙軌制我們都支持 |
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法條的內容有不足有需要修改有需要精進台灣民眾黨黨團敞開心胸我們接受社會各界的指教在接下來具體立法的過程當中到最後二讀三讀表決通過為止 |
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歡迎大家提供具體的建議給我們這件事情台灣民眾黨黨團說到做到絕對不會虎頭蛇尾更不會像執政黨一樣一開始敲鑼打鼓現在呢就持續研議我不客氣的講我現在只要聽到民進黨政府說要研議啊我聽這兩個字就怕了 |
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我聽這兩個字就怕了當民進黨政府說要研議我把它轉化成真實的語言就是我沒有要做就是我沒有要做我希望這一次主管機關能夠用行動證明我今天在公聽會講的是錯的我要特別說今天這麼多的學者專家 |
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這麼多基層的新聞工作者大家站出來大聲疾呼是知道我國新聞媒體的環境非常惡劣非常惡劣惡劣到什麼程度我兩位非常敬重新聞界的前輩我雖然是一個法律學者但是過去因為參加公民運動步入叢林所以跟媒體跟新聞有非常密切的互動關係 |
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我還在中研院任職的時候就曾經是狗仔24小時高規格追蹤的對象也被高規格的對待過所以我非常了解新聞的專業自主對於一個讓閱聽人有品質的有品質的新聞報導這件事情有多重要 |
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過去這十幾年我看到台灣新聞媒體的發展我只有四個字叫做痛心疾首痛心疾首我為什麼痛心疾首我沒有辦法寫的比我兩位敬重新聞界的前輩林立雲教授跟王維京教授我沒有辦法寫的比他們更好所以請容許我今天在公聽會裡面把他們的聲明念一次納入立法院公報的紀錄 |
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354.651 |
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台灣新聞頻道市場過度競爭獲益分散新聞台仰賴業配、置入及政府標案甚至逐步形成台灣正媒共商集團透過政治與媒體影響力除戒土地開發謀利也介入政治甚至政府領域包括人事、個案與政策 |
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| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
385.39 |
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台灣新聞頻道正媒集團化與高度政治化讓媒體成為政治部門的輿論宣傳工具不公正的新聞報導及節目也導致台灣新聞頻道的社會信任度長期世界排名倒數為台灣民主的另外一個危機我相信不僅僅是我非常多的閱聽人甚至現在在網路上面關心這場記者會也就是我們接下來 |
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407.497 |
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我們想要我們想要能夠去說服他們來一起支持這個媒體議價法的一般社會大眾心有所感心有所感所以我剛剛聽到有學者專家一開始起手式就非常好誰是媒體非常重要的問題有沒有編輯式相關的規範 |
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435.979 |
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不是只有明文的規範編輯式的規範到底有沒有落實有沒有accountability新聞產製的流程是什麼這都是新聞學我相信是基本的ABC但問題是台灣現在的新聞有嗎有嗎 |
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460.463 |
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在自媒體競爭很激烈的年代剛剛有學者說啊館長那個不能稱為是新聞我跟館長很熟啊他從來也沒有希望他自己那個叫做新聞他很謙虛啦很客氣他基本上就是講他想講的話做一個評論員嘛到我離開立法院以後我2020年離開立法院以後 |
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482.366 |
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我成立一個協會我也在做自媒體我做自媒體在做什麼在揭發社會的弊案從綠能光電貪腐的案子到科學成物流的案子我自己花了很多時間精力去把這些弊案 |
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做成YT的影像因為我是為了公益而做的所以其他媒體引用其他媒體直接用我那個調查報導的內容因為我本來就沒有要獲益我只覺得榮譽但我知道一個深度的調查報導到底要投入多少時間多少精力我們在討論有關於媒體溢價的時候 |
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此時同時借這個機會好好反省台灣目前正媒集團的亂象甚至媒體成為政治的打手跟工具以及我們新聞產製品質第一線的同仁非常的辛苦我們大家都可以理解但是在這些產製有多少是來自高層的指令啊 |
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558.518 |
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大老闆吃香喝辣開發土地牟利跟政治人物光籌交錯基層的新聞工作者累到爆肝還要接受上面的壓力跟指示請問這樣子的新聞這叫假新聞啊我很好奇啊說我們三體預數11億的預算這個新聞是怎麼出來的 |
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這個新聞是怎麼出來這有經過我們的編輯式規範產生出來的新聞嗎做了這個假新聞到今天都還沒有道歉甚至什麼濫用媒體的公器我已經搞不清楚這是新聞主播還是個人加上媒體老闆的政治宣傳工具 |
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肆意的抹黃 毫無事實根據一樣啊 到今天有道歉嗎到今天有道歉嗎說柯文哲在LINE 在微信有把妹的對話 非常露骨我很好奇 這樣的新聞要一起分論嗎要視聽大眾付錢嗎我不知道 |
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我們作為民意代表正確的事情我們一定堅持到底與此同時我希望台灣的新聞真正走向專業獨立自主就像每一個新聞人的靈魂一樣 |
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634.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
650.03 |
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我要報導真實我要發掘弊案我要扮演第四權的角色我要作為掌權者最佳的防腐劑我相信這是絕大多數台灣人民共同支持的事情在邁向這個目標媒體新聞報導有價付費 |
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672.622 |
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讓我們基層的新聞工作者能夠得到更好的待遇這樣子的方向台灣民眾黨黨團不管遭遇到什麼樣的客觀環境遭遇到什麼樣子的對待我們一樣會堅持理念支持到底謝謝大家 |