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| 會議時間 |
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| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、審計部陳審計長瑞敏率所屬單位主管列席業務報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關主計總處暨審計部、審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部桃園市審計處、審計部臺中市審計處、審計部臺南市審計處、審計部高雄市審計處部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關直轄市及縣市政府。調整軍公教人員待遇準備。災害準備金。第二預備金。（僅詢答）） |
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好,現在宣布開會那我們請主任秘書報告出席委員人數報告委員會出席委員一族法定人數好,現在宣布我們開始開會請議事人員先讀上一次的會議議事錄立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會好 |
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主席請宣讀議事錄主席請大家來登記主席請宣讀議事錄有聽到了有聽到了不要浪費時間審預算 |
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1906.602 |
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請大家登記我們讓大家充分討論請大家登記有聽到了讓大家充分花言 |
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1914.178 |
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1935.992 |
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主席請宣讀議事錄不要浪費時間好有聽到了有聽到王洪威委員的一個建議還有曾一貞委員的一個建議來不要浪費時間我們要審預算我們要審就審前全國都在看 |
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1938.707 |
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1942.174 |
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我們請議事人員先讀那個議案 |
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1946.081 |
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1969.658 |
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案有針對本院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議一案之審查程序嚴重違反立法院職權行使法、立法院議事規則等如說明本次會議審查結果應屬無效且本次會議事錄未依規定記載應不予確定說明一法案之審查因依據立法院職權行使法第9條第二項及立法院各委員會組織法第21條規定 |
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1971.48 |
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應將議案朗讀一次或逐條提附討論另立法院執議事規則第11條第二項規定修正動議應連同原案未提出修正部分先附討論本次會議呈討論事項為繼續審查財政收支劃分法等22項為主席緊究其中四條 |
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2004.44 |
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事案6條附表2進行主條宣告其餘個案及修正單位軍會主條提供討論明顯違反立法院執行刑事法、立法院議事規則等相關規定二、依據立法院議事規則第31條及第57條規定 |
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2007.183 |
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2029.241 |
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審查會議之主條討論發言不以一次為限議事規則第33條規定主席對議案之討論論文已達可付表決之程度時竟爭得出席委員同意後得宣告停止討論出席委員亦得提出停止討論之動議然當陸會議主席宣告進行主條討論後不僅未讓在場委員發言討論且在未遵循停止討論也未有停止討論動議之下即進行條文處理違反議事規則規定剝奪委員實質討論空間 |
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三、立法院議事規則第35條規定一案之點名表決需經出席委員提議不經討論由主席晉附表決第36條第4項並規定用投票或點名方式表決可否雙方均不過半數時本案不通過另一立法院點名表決辦法第4條、第5條規定點名表決以當次出席委員簽到民事部為 |
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為名冊由主席依簽到名簿依次序暢明本次會議主席針對附議案之處理在為宣告典禮表決之提議人為進行採典禮表決方式之表決情況下禁止宣告採典禮表決出席委員共有14人究竟暢明反對者否方6人為依簽到簿 |
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簽到民部暢明求依規定點名表決可否均不過半數提案應不通過不論可否但主席仍宣告附議案依否方6人表決結果不成立嚴重違反議事規則及點名表決不按法附議案之處理應屬無效 |
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二、立法院議事規則第53條議事錄應記載下列事項十、議案及表決、十一表決方法及可否之訴而本次會議事錄對於討論事項所列議案及表決僅列局部未記載所有議案之決議且未記載表決方法及可否之訴違反議事規則第53條規定重上本次議案之審查程序嚴重違反 |
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立法院執行新司法、立法院議事規則等相關規定本次會議審查結果應屬無效且本次會議事錄未議規定記載應不已確定提案人郭國文、賴慧妍、李坤城、吳秉瑞、吳立華宣導完畢 |
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2158.032 |
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2161.415 |
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請各位委員回座好不好 |
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2172.101 |
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請各位委員回座是請各位委員回座因為我們有委員登記我們有委員登記程旭花園我們接著就開始程旭花園第一位吳秉瑞第一位吳秉瑞請主席主持 |
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2198.262 |
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2208.951 |
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我發言不要在那邊干擾尊重發言不要干擾請大家回座位我跟妳講程序發言每一個政黨都有 |
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我跟妳講已經是先程序花言了我裁定就是先程序花言了好不好各位同仁請回座大家都有機會花言來來來先回座位先回座位我們請登記第一號吳秉瑞花言 |
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來請各位同仁坐回請各位同仁坐回自己的座位大家都有機會每一個人都有三分鐘的花言機會請各位同仁坐回 |
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請各位同仁坐回座位對,我們要快速審議算這個沒有問題民進黨敢提案不敢表決請各位同仁坐回座位剛剛那個提案就是要處理民進黨的提案民進黨人不夠不敢表決 |
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沒有持續!我們先讓各位同仁先處理提案,要不然就先撤回吳碧玮先撤回吳碧玮的提案,要不就應該先撤回每一位同仁請坐回,每一位同仁都有花言的機會是!所以你會給提案嗎?提案你要讓我說明啊!要表決之前不能讓人家說明嗎? |
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2339.352 |
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主席敢處理提案不敢表決民進黨現在人不夠 |
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2360.434 |
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讓提案人發言好不好?主席沒有提案不敢表決你這張提案為什麼不處理啊?你這張提案哪裡處理啊?趕快處理啊! |
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2376.612 |
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我們先讓議案委員 |
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2403.914 |
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來做說明。今天處理的是國家的創立權是國家的二倍。民進黨當家要賣勢。說明查譽上的確定會議紀錄。我們希望今天能夠好好的實施紀錄。 |
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2428.897 |
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2445.013 |
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拜金的審查,請吳思揚協助,讓我們會議可以趕快進行,請主席可以處理,儘速的處理提案。審讀完就宣傳我們本場。 |
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二、審查中華民國11屆第12會期財政委員會第11屆第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會 |
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2462.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2477.901 |
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請尊重主席啊請主席請主席要按照議事規則來剛剛議事人員已經宣讀完提案宣讀完提案就應該要立刻表決處理主席 |
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2484.676 |
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審計部、審計部、審計部 |
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2506.16 |
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2515.463 |
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我們先請吳秉瑞委員﹐他是提案人﹐先休息三分鐘。請主席處理剛剛宣讀完的提案。國民黨要求剛剛宣讀完的提案現在表決。 |
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2539.454 |
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2556.668 |
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請你們回座讓我好好的把這個我們把這個說明完畢你上禮拜怎麼都不會回座啊六合協今天什麼時候表決自己的決定好嗎先讀完提案就應該要立刻處理 |
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2578.714 |
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2582.636 |
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博博文黨臺北市的救命權啊!博博文黨臺北市的救命權啊!博博文黨臺北市的救命權啊! |
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2590.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2601.541 |
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1個月前、2個月前加倍審總預算案是國民黨在場總預算、國民黨在場總預算、國民黨在場總預算、國民黨在場總預算、國民黨在場總預算、國民黨在場總預算、國民黨在場總預算、2個月前、2個月前加倍審總預算 |
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2621.755 |
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休息喔!休息一下!議案領域是主席的權利?對!議案處理的時間是主席的權利?對阿!對阿!我就不理你!主席還是現在正式呈四人發言?是!請委員都回答!對!請大家尊重主席!你就一直講! |
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2643.976 |
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2671.102 |
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各位同仁請尊重主席的財事各位同仁請尊重主席的財事請大家回座位那我們財事財事就是每一黨每一黨都有花言的機會那我們先給吳秉瑞吳委員提案人來花言每一位委員花言是三分鐘來吳秉瑞 |
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陳一貞委員陳一貞委員等一下你也有花言的機會上個禮拜你在我面前把麥克風各位委員各位委員請坐回你們自己的座位好不好 |
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議事程序是主席決定現在現在我們讓提案委員吳秉瑞吳秉瑞委員先發言我們請其他的委員回座好不好 |
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2759.294 |
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請其他的委員回座好嗎?請其他的委員回座我們讓議事順利進行請其他的委員回座我們讓議事順利進行 |
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2763.807 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2768.81 |
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請各位委員回座我們請議事順利進行好不好 |
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2775.849 |
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2800.222 |
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主席謝謝剛剛針對我們的提案我現在要就提出程序問題就是要說明這個東西因為我們認為就上個禮拜的財政委員會第6次全體會議的這個會議嚴重的違反了立法院的議事規則所以我們認為這個審查應該算是無效的也就是因為基於這個無效我們認為這個議事錄 |
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2802.603 |
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2830.377 |
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根本不應該給予確認那說明的地方剛剛有念我就是簡略地跟大家再報告一下這個法案的審查依照立法院職權新司法第九條第二項及立法院各委員會組織法第21條的規定要將議案朗讀依次或逐條提附討論然後在這個時候你看看上個禮拜的這個會議這個主席僅就其中的四個條文進行逐條宣讀 |
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2833.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2848.497 |
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其餘個案跟修正案都沒有進行逐條提付討論明顯違反立法院的職權行事法、立法院的議事規則這些規定再來第二點依據立法院議事規則第31條、57條的規定在逐條討論發言不以一致違憲但是 |
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2855 |
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2871.465 |
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這個當天的會議顯然不是這樣當天的會議主席宣告進行諸條討論後不僅未讓在場的委員發言討論也沒有徵詢停止討論也沒有停止討論的當意就進行條文處理明顯違反議事規定撥撥委員會實質討論的空間第三個立法院議事規則第35條也規定這個 |
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2882.134 |
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2899.761 |
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議案如果要用點名表決的時候必須經過初期的委員提議不可以不經過討論由主席就進一步表決然後另外當天會議主席針對剛剛那些的規定他在沒有採取宣告 |
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2900.681 |
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2925.375 |
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點名表決的提議之前沒有進行點名表決方式的決定表決的狀況下禁止宣告才點名表決而且出席委員總共有14人僅暢明反對者就是否定方的6個人也沒有一道尖道的名簿來暢明而且依規定點名表決可否不掛半數提案應不予通過 |
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2937.009 |
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但主席僅有在6個人支持不到半數的狀況下結果不成立卻為嚴重的違反議事規則所以我們認為這個復議案的處理是無效的 |
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2938.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
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眾上喔就是說上次的會議開會完全沒有照規則來所以我們今天的提案認為上次的會議明顯無效不應該確認上一次的這個議事規則這是我們的主張另外不要用假借審預算為名啦今天只有尋答今天沒有預算處理你看清楚議事討論所以在那邊亂講說我們在擋預算的審查是你們已經擋走預算復回兩個月啦 |
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故意在那邊亂講一氣啦齁好謝謝好接著我們請李坤澄委員花言 |
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謝謝主席這個是誰在擋總預算是國民黨在擋總預算兩個月前總預算就應該負為審查了結果兩個月之後我們才排定總預算今天的這個請主計處、審計處來做詢答所以到底是誰在擋總預算是國民黨 |
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在黨總預算是國民黨在黨總預算是國民黨在黨總預算我們上個禮拜陳玉珍他擔任召委整個會議審財務法短短的3分鐘的時間就讓他過了我們看一下這個我們整理一下上一次3分鐘的他的逐字稿 |
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他是跳著念的啊九分鐘就開始說我們要進行逐條討論有進行逐條討論嗎沒有念了第三條跳到第八條跳到第十二條跳到第三十條念了四條全部都跳過去只念條次沒有條文根本不知道在審什麼內容然後呢念完之後問說有沒有復議 |
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有沒有復議?結果呢只唸了財委會我們有14個委員只唸了國民黨6個委員6個委員問完之後呢就說好復議不成立然後呢最後是講什麼啊黃珊珊沒有了沒有黃珊珊黃珊珊有舉手嗎啊沒看到啊沒關係最後呢唸了一句好唸完了好宣告散會 |
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你是在唸什麼東西啊陳玉珍你是在唸什麼東西啊我們看一下這個會議記錄今天本來要確認這個議事錄議事錄裡面寫了什麼東西議事錄根本沒有把 |
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我們這一次上市開會的所有的決議還有呢因為有表決也沒有把記載表決的方法完全把它寫出來根本就違反了議事規則違反了立法院的職權行使法我們看一下最後呢 |
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決議短短的兩點根本就沒有把這一次上一次的會議到底審了什麼條文大家對於表決的意見有沒有意義完全都沒有寫出來 |
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所以我們認為呢上個禮拜對於這個財劃法的審查根本違反了議事的相關的規定上次的審查結果無效而且呢本市的會議的這個議事錄呢也沒有按照規定來記載不應該予以確認好 謝謝坤城委員接著請陳一貞委員發言 |
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現在所有在說現在所有在說審查時間只有3分鐘了就是沒有注意看我們上個會議開會的會議通知我們上個禮拜開會是禮拜一、禮拜三、禮拜四是一次會換句話說從禮拜一開始就已經開始在審查財化法 |
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禮拜一整天已經通過了經過了五輪的發言我讓大家暢所欲言暢所欲言到沒有人願意登記發言為止禮拜一就已經開始進入財化法的討論在上個禮拜是廣泛討論禮拜一就開始進入討論禮拜三只是休息之後的開會禮拜一就已經進入討論而且大家看到有五十幾位的民進黨委員上來發言 |
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在場當中所有每一個人都上來發言好多次針對查法的內容哪一個條文不適合都有上來發言所以說沒有討論這個根本就是胡說八道如果外面人不懂得開會的程序自己身為立法委員也不懂那就是太丟臉了134是一次會一次會就從禮拜一開始開禮拜三是繼續開會把禮拜一還沒有開完的從 |
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休息後開始所以我們不是重新開會你會看到大家禮拜三就沒有確定議事錄也沒有再介紹官員就是因為我們是繼續開會從禮拜一一直開到晚上10點半以後的繼續開會這個是第一點第二點剛剛會說什麼念3、4、8、12、16之一什麼等等的人說跳著念是因為沒有注意聽開會的內容原來版本有22個版本這次討論的因為其他的委員國民黨的委員都說 |
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自己的版本可以不用討論了都已經向本行出面表示意見然後呢全部以國民黨版本為討論依據然後接著那是參與吳立華還有賴銳仁的版本我們一樣有進行討論所以後來討論的是四個版本那四個版本只有這幾條其他的條文沒有民進黨團也是依據國民黨團的版本討論這有時候已經溝通好了你們不知道的話就不要胡說八道另外一個 |
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有關這個確認因素﹖所以本席是有針對說這一你說的修正動議方面李燕秀、高金美、宋明文針對他們的修正動議都表示徹案不再討論這個我在一開始就有講了你們都沒有再注意聽是因為郭國文開始帶頭作亂讓整個議場亂哼哼所以我講的話你們都沒有聽到 |
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除了你以外還有其他的委員所以根據議事規則立法院議事規則第54條第2項的規定議事的確認除了有錯誤或是遺漏的時候應以書面提出由主席進行處理意思就是說議事錄只有在內容發生錯誤遺漏才能要求處理這個議事錄的記載非常的詳實這是送出去的版本 |
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民進黨有三個摘餘奈瑞隆、吳立華的版本國民黨團只有一個我們送出了三個民進黨版本一個國民黨版本所以是非常的尊重民進黨所以請主席趕快確認議事錄謝謝 |
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好 謝謝陳一貞委員這個不得不佩服陳一貞召委啊這個連續三分鐘都可以隨便亂講話那這個抖音式的一分鐘讓大家花言竟然還可以講的這麼精準啊所以實在是令人家感到非常的奇怪接著請李燕秀委員花言 |
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民進黨長期人家都說當家不鬧事民進黨既要總預算覆違然後呢又打臉過去無論是商美當家不鬧事但是民進黨從這個會期來送總預算一直不斷地說國民黨在杯葛但是到最後你看又找韓院長要喝咖啡又朝野各黨派喝咖啡又說要吃飯 |
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到最後其實讓整個立法院空轉了兩個多月的時間我們非常的遺憾包括財化法的處理其實剛才吳秉瑞委員的提案我要再提一次根據議事規則54條之二 |
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主席委員如果認為上一次的會議紀錄除非是有遺漏或錯誤錯誤的時候才可以書面提出跟程序一點問題都沒有我要再一次提醒民進黨今天我們審查的部分是中央的災害準備金跟公務人員的調薪的部分跟整個我們預算的處理 |
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這些預算每一條今天官員這麼多人都在要審查預算的不是民進黨嗎怎麼今天又丟出來一個案子來杯葛今天開會的程序所有審預算的也是民進黨杯葛的也是民進黨當家鬧事惹事的還是民進黨財化法 |
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已經25年沒休了賴清德、吳運當、台南市市長、行政院院長包括我們現在蕭美琴副總統、鄭麗君副院長都提出來要審財化法都提出財化法是一個不公不義的版本但是我們非常遺憾的是到現在民進黨執政第9年了行政部門留一個財化法的版本 |
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都拿不出來這不是可恥嗎過去提說這是不公不義的版本怎麼現在會變成是一個最好的版本這不是過去的現在的賴總統現在的行政院長打臉過去賴清德市長嗎難道現在不是蕭美琴副總統打臉過去的賴清德市長嗎 |
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這就是民進黨矛盾的地方又要審預算又不開會又要杯葛所以按照今天的議事程序我們還是提醒主席看一看我們的議事規則第54條之二今天除非有文字上的錯誤否則就應該確認會議記錄我們要開會我們要趕快審二倍預算我們要開始趕快審災害準備期請民進黨當家不鬧事我們立即做 |
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會議紀錄的確認趕快開始審查預算謝謝好接著請林德虎委員質詢 |
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委員會主席 |
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委員會主席 |
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是有錯誤或遺漏為由並須以書面提出來這個到底有沒有委員來提出裡面到底整個議事錄裡面有沒有問題來確認要是沒有提出說裡面有一些這個文字上的問題提出來那我相信整個財劃法的版本 |
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這次修訂為什麼一定要修因為25年沒有修訂而且現在中央佔72%比地方只有28%那這次的調整我們希望能夠維持60%、40%尤其在過去現在的賴總統他在 |
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這個過去擔任市長的期間也連署過在擔任立委的時候連署過4次那副總統蕭美琴多達提案跟連署11次那包括行政院的副院長鄭麗君有8次那我相信包括這一次這個 |
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高雄市市長陳其邁他也希望行政院能夠提出版本來能夠統合中央跟地方的意見再來一起討論時空環境其實25年到現在 |
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二十八跟七十二七十二是中央二十八是地方那現在要是調整到百分之六十是中央百分之四十是地方讓地方啊能夠多一點自主性我認為這是非常合理但是啊 |
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中央就是透過我們民進黨現在所有的委員他們現在是把行政院當成我們立法院民進黨就是他們的立法局 |
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他的思維就是跟過去一樣認為可以為所欲為但是今天你要認清事實我們希望要能夠好好的探討怎麼讓預算能夠順利的通過能夠湖國立民我相信這是大家共同的目標那我希望今天確認議事錄能夠很順利以上接著請吳思堯委員花園 |
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立法院誰當家?國民黨 |
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國民黨應當是當家不鬧事的那一方今天我們要提出三分鐘通過才化法三分鐘通過6612億形同每一秒通過的37億四大瑕疵第一沒有逐條討論第二 |
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未停止討論就直接處理條文進行處理第三、表決違規第四、議事錄的登載也違反規定首先我們回到11月4號星期一 |
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主席說有讓大家充分討論請問一分鐘討論五、六千億一分鐘怎麼討論國民黨的委員是拍抖音上癮了嗎這種抖音式的問政品質是我們審議國家珍貴預算應當有的程序嗎 |
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主席在週一財事星期三會邀集地方首長來進行財劃法的意見表述但是星期三就上演了三分鐘通過6612億的版本剛剛國民黨的委員說全文有22個版本國民黨的委員 |
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同意他們的版本被丟包各位公民朋友財化法經過程序正式交付委員會審查有22版但是有18個版本被丟包國民黨的說法是他們的個別委員同意自我閹割自己的提案 |
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同意被丟包那我要問請問民眾黨的版本有同意被你們丟包嗎請問民眾黨的版本如果有同意被你們丟包為什麼黃珊珊委員還要在周三的鬧劇之後來對媒體說話她批判這是粗糙的審查 |
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說到表決上個會期擴全法案讓立法院回到30年前的舉手表決 |
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上週陳玉珍主持的財化法大家看看財政委員會總共有14位委員可是當天針對快速通過的版本進行複製的表決的時候只有6位國民黨的委員被暢明請問14個委員出席過半通過是多少啊 |
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這是簡單的數學問題只有六位委員表達唱名不附議請問這是什麼表決而今天的議事錄針對表決的結果 |
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針對逐條討論是否進行針對當天有沒有停職討論來進行審議完全付之缺乳所以我們主張請依據立法院職權行使法68條當立法院遇有重大爭議事件委員會的處理遇有重大瑕疵事件 |
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應由韓國瑜院長來召集朝野協商國民黨的委員請對韓國瑜院長有信心才劃法的重大瑕疵應交付朝野協商民進黨主張今天的議事錄不予確立今天的議事錄 |
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不以確立賴會員委員、財政委員會的委員居然這樣子來包圍其他委員的發言財政委員會的委員不應當成要擔擾的發言請主席財政經濟的意識度不以確立不如還願珍重花園的委員協商請陳玉璇跳麥克風 |
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4082.412 |
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4084.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
請為期報告陳貞昌委好接著請羅明財委員花言 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
4097.74 |
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主席大家好其實剛剛有聽到一個說三分鐘就通過什麼什麼其實不止三分鐘因為過去從上個會期我們已經多次在審查大家都記憶猶新從5月20號開始審查財政收支審法14案這是本人在當召委的時候來主持的6月3號也繼續審查財化法 |
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六月五號召開財政收支辦法公聽會專家、學者來的二十幾個人都有發言另外在六月五號繼續邀請各地方政府財政局發表意見很多都來了,副縣長都來了 |
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包括上個禮拜陳其邁、陳市長也來了6月19號也繼續在審查我們最後還通過了決議財政部必須在下個會期就是這個會期開議之前必須要把財政部的版本拿出來10月7號 |
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| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
4179.953 |
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陳玉珍召委繼續召開公聽會那與會的委員專家大概20個人都有相繼的發言11月21號陳玉珍委員又繼續來審查20個案 |
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11月23號繼續審查上次這個案11月4號程序發言總共有59個人發言11月6號繼續審查所以我們可以看到11月7號也都有會所以我們可以看到總共財化法有208個人次發言其實有沒有充分討論 |
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在整個過去的法律的討論當中大家記憶猶新的是邱毅英、邱偉仁所召集的 |
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他是在前瞻計畫出審的時候邱毅宜當召委一分鐘宣讀通過所以你一直在笑陳玉珍你不去講那個一分鐘的陳毅宜你一直在講陳玉……邱毅宜你一直在講陳玉珍 |
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所以事實上最重要的精神是25年沒休了地方都嗷嗷待哺甚至我們現在是在支持賴清德賴總統他當初我們的堅持的確地方需要要有錢要有權 |
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4264.693 |
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希望中央的資源可以下放還包括民進黨很多人都提案了所以這次上個禮拜通過的法案不是只有國民黨一個版本一共還有民進黨三個版本都已經通過了所以我們希望各位委員大家冷靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
4300.788 |
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因為決戰場不是在財委會充分討論的時間還可以到院會朝野協商大家好好來談一下嘛特別今天很重要今天都是救命錢都是救命錢喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
4330.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
114年度直轄市及縣市一般性補助款災害準備金、第二預備金及調整軍公教人員待遇準備預算編列的情況我們希望站在人民的立場好好思考這個監錄再停擺下去停一天、停兩天、停三天真正嗷嗷待哺受傷的是所有的百姓拜託各位委員冷靜的思考謝謝 |
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4340.192 |
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主席、媒體朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4371.961 |
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財務法修法的背景從今審後財政大權都向中央傾斜今審前中央跟地方是6比4但是到如今中央75%地方25%那從今審時代的兩個直轄市23個縣市到現在6個直轄市22個縣市情況已經 |
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4407.601 |
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大有改變那地方政府不斷的告窮完全要靠中央垂青我們都有很多委員都有提過財法法的修正在這麼多的提案當中擔任立委的賴清德總統參與提案連署超過4次擔任副總統的蕭美琴 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
4409.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
4429.889 |
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現在的蕭敏琴擔任立委的時候多達11次行政院副院長也有8次在民國90年賴總統擔任這個當時他也連署了國民黨的主席朱立倫當時擔任立委所提這個修法的草案 |
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即使在蔡政府跟賴政府的時代民進黨立委也有12次提案提案的內容不外乎就是要說明現在的財化法 |
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必須要修正賴清德總統他說現行的財劃法是不公不義但是行政院主委院長卻說現在的財劃法是最好的版本那是不是院長打臉總統我想過今天我們剛剛很多委員都有提到對於上個禮拜三議事運作、議事程序 |
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| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
4496.004 |
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完全合乎規定在星期一的時候我們總共星期一、星期三的一次會208人次的討論加上所有在5月、6月、10月份、11月份所召開的這些會議當中都經過充分的討論過去 |
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就連立法院各黨團各立委在財劃法提案的案數多達80件國民黨36件民進黨也有30件親民黨、臺聯、無盟、新黨、實力還有民眾黨等都有各自提案沒有任何政黨缺席 |
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典政府時代也在91年、96年和97年三度提案馬英九、馬政府也在民國99年101年兩度提案修法 |
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所以我們現在是在支持賴清德政府賴總統的政見我們是要求來修正我們的財劃法讓我們的地方政府能夠更有效率的來執行各項的業務把中央集權跟集錢的這樣子的印象打破我們是在幫助執政黨請執政黨的立委不要在這邊來干涉議事的運作 |
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| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
吳立華議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
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4600.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
財化法25年沒有修所以我們大家都希望好好地將22個版本逐條地來審查但是我們卻落入了欲速則不達的窘境上週陳玉珍、趙偉排了三天要來審查 |
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4602.441 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4630.478 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
星期一大家不斷的做會議詢問程序發言一直弄到凌晨12點星期三我們一開始從主席宣布現在繼續開會到宣告散會總共三分鐘我一個字一個字數這個逐字稿有608個字 |
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我想說的是這個當中很可惜因為我們真的想要好好的逐條審查22個版本找到對中央地方最適切、橫貧的才化法但是就因為3分鐘608個字處處的瑕疵就像前面許多委員所提到的 |
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4682.285 |
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我們看到22個版本有18個版本被丟包我們看到我們在沒有停止討論動議之下結果盡致的來做條文處理剝奪了我們一直在等待期待的實質討論 |
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4711.592 |
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在這裡對復議案的處理我們也看到我們出席的14位委員在唱名的時候也只有唱名6人所以像這樣的一個議事結果我相信大家都很清楚我們是覺得應不予確定所以我們有在這邊提案我想說的是剛才有委員提到 |
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秋毅委員對我們聽到了但是請大家回去查秋毅委員他有補正程序他有重新審查所以我們在這邊也鄭重的呼籲難道我們陳一貞照有做不到嗎所以在這邊再一次跟主席來做這樣的訴求這一次的 |
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4762.95 |
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整個會議審查結果應屬無效我們非常的期待能夠交付由院長做黨團協商我們來補正這個結果這個程序讓25年的財化法能夠忙得有結果謝謝好接著請耐斯堡委員花言 |
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4787.654 |
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謝謝主席及各位先進我剛才仔細聆聽民進黨的委員先進們叫做一派胡言我們來看總共這個案子討論了38個小時將近40個小時 |
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他們一直在講說要主條沒有主條沒有主條沒有主條笑死人禮拜一晚上我看得非常清楚議事人員要宣讀主條有委員提出了修正動議馬上就搶了施啊下息下請啊國內議員施我們議事人員的在念的那個手上的稿子這是真實情況啊 |
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4819.261 |
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4838.516 |
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民進黨團沒有版本了財政部沒有版本了行政院沒有版本了所以民進黨只會亂才華娃就是一個字叫亂因為他們不要修因為他們做官當皇帝收了錢全部在這裡各位我們在爭什麼啊60、40、75、25就爭15%的決定權 |
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4848.571 |
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4873.613 |
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錢沒有淘空啊但這個決定錢給地方政府我們再做好幾回要選地方首長哦2026年哦你們的態度怎麼樣啊難道你們不希望你們萬一你選上呢你希望你的地方財源多一點嗎我們就在爭一個決定權我們希望25年前的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
4889.85 |
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六市能夠重審就這麼簡單的事情今天很遺憾的看到啊執政黨他們不斷說哎呀國會多數是律師是國民黨好笑欸請問這個錢誰用啊這個錢都是民進黨在用欸民進黨執政黨欸你們執政黨的錢都是你們在用欸不是我們在用欸 |
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4900.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
4929.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
怎麼會講這樣子離譜的事情呢沒有常識的事情現在執政黨是民進黨行政的執政權這麼很清楚本來上個禮拜好不容易總預算互為了大家氣氛這麼好結果今天擺出來一副就是要幹架的樣子怎麼會你們要當家鬧事呢一直拖一直拖拖我們就陪你啊主席拜託你主席啊你也是地方民代這麼久出來的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
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趕快要處理啊 要是那講一堆 當然提案提出來就表決要處理啊你現在 因為你們人少 表決不過 你就來表決大家拖累拖累沒關係 繼續拖 我們就陪你拖怎麼會說今天沒有關係 今天很有關係喔沒有巡查就沒有審查預算了 怎麼會沒有關係 |
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4955.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
4974.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
都很清楚啊今天是什麼錢奧備金、災害準備金、災害妨礙金、防治金以及第二預備金以及軍公教條薪這個都救命錢啊我們不要這樣拖啊真的擺脫這執政黨的立委們啊 |
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4975.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
4992.885 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
老國臺灣的百姓吧已經立委行銷已經有過不好了啦啊好不容易三個禮拜好水好水啊怎麼這個禮拜開始要來亂的看咧不給過沒關係喔我們就陪你們喔我們待會有我們的底線喔 |
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| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
5018.329 |
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我們是以民生為念我們希望趕快審這個預算但是如果沒有的話我們也不容許破壞議事規則議事錄的確定什麼叫議事錄上一次開會的結果把它做成記錄下來有沒有遺漏有沒有錯誤就這樣子而已啊結果還講一些五四三講一堆這個就是啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
5040.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
什麼亂啊就找一些理由來亂啊這個老百姓都看得非常的清楚民進黨沒有版本民進黨沒有版本民進黨一直阻撓連念修正道義都不給念大家都看得非常清楚就是一個字亂 |
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5041.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
5057.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
因為他要當皇帝因為他不會把這個權力下放15%的錢給地方政府這才是老百姓很不平的地方最後我再呼籲主席 |
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5058.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
5072.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
你也是地方出來的齁真的地方的財源非常重要快點處理啦齁這個東西有提案我們尊重但是呢大家就來表決啦看看到底怎麼樣嘛好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
5074.586 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
5088.189 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
好 謝謝賴思寶委員在這裡跟賴氏我們這個賴氏中心賴思寶委員提醒一下立法院當家是國民黨是韓國瑜院長好 接著請王毅民委員發言各位委員今天列席的官員各位媒體大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
5098.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
5110.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
當家不鬧事今天民進黨改寫了當家不鬧事的定義請問現在的執政黨是哪一黨是國民黨嗎還是民進黨執政黨就是民進黨請問當今的總統是不是民進黨的賴清德總統 |
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5119.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
5137.739 |
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所以當家執政不鬧事這麼簡單清楚的道理今天在發言的時候連主席還要這樣子凹一點意義都沒有難道你要否認今天賴清德總統當家的事實嗎?不承認他嗎? |
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所以大家看得非常清楚之前財劃法是從今年上半年5月20號的下午就開始啟動整個的討論的程序這當中從5月20號的詢答開始中間還歷經了6次的審查會 |
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也有21個縣市的代表來到了財委會發表他的意見更是舉辦過兩次的公聽會總共發言的人數有超過158人次開會的時間有37小時又35分鐘民進黨斷章取義說什麼3分鐘這完全是媚於事實的發言 |
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所以才化法包括這麼多的區域委員我現在在嘉義縣擔任國民黨嘉義縣黨部的主委也任養嘉義縣我們參與委員也是嘉義縣的區域委員難道不覺得嘉義縣的財政非常的困窘中央集權又集權不需要再下放一些預算給地方嗎 |
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網美會委員是來自嘉義市我相信嘉義市黃明輝市長也一直希望這個中央可以有更多的錢預算分配給我們嘉義市所以我相信很多在地的區域的委員大家都希望財化法中央必須下放更多的預算跟資源給地方的縣市這樣才符合真正地方自治的精神 |
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所以這件事情還有朝野協商剛剛說沒收了其他這個黨團的版本也通通都是謊話大家在朝野協商就怕民進黨不想端出版本只要有版本大家都可以討論陳玉珍委員也一再的強調所以不用再抹黑不用再扭曲這件事情就應該要讓他繼續往前走 |
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待會就應該要確認上次的會議議事錄而且今天的總預算涉及到的是救命錢、軍公教的調薪我們更應該要支持讓今天的會議順利的上路開始開會謝謝接著請羅志強委員、花妍 |
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民進黨封起來連自己人都打民進黨封起來連自己人都打現在是網路上最紅的一句話民進黨要不要去看一看對不對財化法 審個財化法打陳玉珍 打陳永康 打議事人員連吳思瑤都不放過一起打這民進黨厲害啊我們佩服他 |
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我跟大家講我告訴大家這就是民進黨厲害的地方對不對打陳玉珍然後跟大家講民進黨打陳玉珍跟大家講國民黨不民主民進黨打陳永康然後跟大家講國民黨不民主民進黨打了議事人員跟大家講國民黨不民主連吳秉內去打吳思瑤都是國民黨不民主啊 |
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還罵我政治癡漢你怎麼不講說今天無比那暴力難呢雙標嘛我都跟我們卓院長說好好關心你的傷勢了民進黨這樣打人是不對的一天到晚示範什麼叫做暴力然後在這邊背一個我們財化法的意思我要告訴大家今天財化法不就是導正過去中央集權又集權賴清德的名言吶 |
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我們在這裡是貫徹賴清德總統的理念啊信念啊你們這一群民進黨的叛徒你們對得起賴清德總統嗎賴清德總統心心念念要修改財化法欸中央集權又集錢欸對不對你民進黨這多年來光提案修正財化法有30件 |
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我們的賴清德提案連續4次、蕭美琴11次、鄭麗君8次你們今天民進黨到底在這邊幹什麼啊?要不然回去先打個電話問問賴清德啊請示一下賴清德總統你明明下令中央集權又集錢要去修正這個已經25年沒有修正的財化法 |
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那現在你民進黨到底在亂什麼呢?所以我跟各位說今天說實在的話就像剛剛王育民委員講的在這邊有很多區域的立委 |
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以前中央跟地方的這個財源分配中央是6成地方是4成現在中央變75%地方只剩2成5你們都沒有覺得有一點點怪怪的不合理嗎今天達成的結果是什麼很多縣市越來越窮啊越完全仰望今天中央 |
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地方就越來越窮那中央有錢幹嘛就亂花嘛最近大家看到沒有光電國家這個臺電的那個所謂的那個所有的掏空還有包括今天很多預算亂花今天就是因為中央沒有好好把錢管好因為他把地方該有錢拿走拜託趕快表決啦今天讓我們的議事務通過謝謝 |
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翁小玲委員不在郭國文委員 |
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主席剛剛聆聽幾位國民黨的委員其實患了這個失憶症造成了胡言亂語顛倒是非確實從上個會期開始到這個會期我們對財務法有公聽會過沒有錯而這個會期陳俊生當天招委的時候一、三、五確實是一次會但是從來沒有進入實質的討論都是在屬於程序的發言或者是會議的詢問 |
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為什麼我們抱持這種態度我必須跟大家說明因為財化法本身就知識體大不是那麼容易修改各位或許有所不知其實啊財化法是在1951年的時候訂定他第一次把統籌分配款放進去的時候是在1954年一直到1981年的時候相隔27年之久才有一些正式的修法 |
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這次的修法當中把中央跟省的部分納進去那後來一直1981到1999相隔18年之久才又會有財法法的重新修法而那一次的修法是為了什麼為了動省所造成的結果所以簡單的講兩次中央的修法不是將近20年就是27年為什麼這段時間不容易修法原因是知識體大 |
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剛剛也有提到說所謂的中央集權集權臺灣本來是屬於單一體制它並不是聯邦制所以它需要中央政府來做調控來配置來平衡地方的發展根本是這一步伐根本的意義之所在但是國民黨一再的扭曲 |
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更何況呢從剛剛來說國民黨在討論的這個提案當中內容說如果有問題我們可以提出來可是問題那是內容可是我們今天討論的是程序所有的過程當中我們看到程序出現很多很多的瑕疵包括有22個提案4個修正單位當中只送個4個提案為什麼因為民眾黨被丟包 |
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民眾黨被丟包的面容當中在今天的會議的這個記錄當中寫得非常清楚藝術錄當中寫得非常清楚後面就沒有民眾黨的提案 |
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為什麼我們剛剛一直說為什麼只有3分鐘很清楚這個會議記錄當中也寫得很清楚就是90到90零3分這是會議的時間所以說所有內容當中都標示在實質的裡頭但是國民黨混淆視聽的最大的原因是他把那個會議啊定位成所有所謂的黨團的會議並不是真正的財政委員會的會議 |
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如果是財政委員會議哪個會議議案要怎麼處理都要經過這個主條的討論 |
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即便職權行司法的法案過程當中我們只有一次性的發言還有逐條討論的空間但是在這個財政收支法問法在委員會當中以委員會中心主義的情況底下我們居然完全沒有討論的空間這就是會議過程當中最大的瑕疵 |
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會議的瑕疵當然會導致這個結論的有效性這個事情在本委員會當中也曾經出現過本席擔任招委的時候在處理會計法的時候國民黨也提出質疑提出質疑的結果 |
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我們整個最後決議主動國民黨把那個會議視為無效後來又重新開會這就是民進黨基本尊重程序的態度我們也希望國民黨學學民進黨把這次的會議視為審查無效接著請王洪威委員發言 |
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主席還有各位委員其實在上個星期五大家都可以看到在行政院退讓然後做出一個合理的預算安排之後在野黨釋出最大的善意在上個星期五大家一致的來讓總預算負為審查但是非常遺憾而且可惜的 |
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星期五的總預算剛剛付為審查而今天在我們財委會所審查的最重要的最重要的就是救命錢大家可以看到包含災害準備金、二倍金以及調整軍公教人員待遇還有對地方的補助今天就是我們主席所安排的議程 |
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可是今天你可以看到民進黨突然卯起來來背個議事然後說我們的議事錄是無效的 |
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確認議事錄其實是所有我們的議事應該的進行而根據立法院議事規則第54條第二項規定議事錄只有在出現錯誤跟遺漏的時候才能要求處理今天民進黨講了一堆程序問題通通不在立法院議事規則議事錄處理的範圍之內 |
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請問一下我們為什麼要花這麼多的時間來阻擋我們來討論明年我們的救命錢呢民進黨在說要審查預算的時候說要苦民所苦啊急如心火啊結果現在民進黨急如心火的是在這邊搶錢然後在這邊阻擋財化法 |
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另外剛才也說呀質疑國民黨的程序的問題我在這邊提出在美國111年的時候才委會處理會計法當時為了陳水扁的特別費 |
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當時民進黨要求議事審查停止審查立即進行處理、立即進行表決然後呢也一樣對當天的會議討論事項立刻停止討論、全案保留、送院會處理民進黨當時為的是什麼為了陳水扁的特別費啊 |
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那今天國民黨的是為了我們所有地方宣誓我們所有人民的權利啊所以我再一次的懇請民進黨 |
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苦民所苦啊不要再繼續浪費時間不要繼續做根本違反規定的議事杯葛趕快讓我們進入預算程序的處理因為我們要處理的是救命錢請大家請民進黨不要說一套做一套 |
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好接著請陳培益委員花言 |
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謝謝主席我想要請在場的國民黨委員還有消失的民眾黨委員請你們仔細回想一下上個禮拜到底發生了什麼事情如果你們老師會失憶我想要提醒你們國會直播頻道有非常多的影片可以讓你們回去好好的 |
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上個禮拜不過花了三分鐘的時間你們先是霸佔主席臺包圍陳玉珍主席不知道是要救駕還是要保護她違規的念出這些條文然後所有委員的異議完全不予處理那我們來看一下議事陸上所表現的樣態請陳玉珍委員也是召委喔您可以自己看看到底發生了什麼事情 |
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此外我要說剛剛有委員提到民進黨談財化法你們不斷的提到賴清德總統還有副總統還有行政院但是我想要問一下你們的財化法目前除了想要灌注北部肥厚白藍地方之外你們到底還想做什麼事情當你們喊著中央把錢都拿走了要不要看一看這幾年民進黨 |
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在非常多地方不分藍綠的執政縣市只要有需要提出需求就會審核過關例如苗栗的財政支援非常非常多的例子如果國民黨民眾黨的委員有失意的可能性非常多的新聞資料庫你們都可以去查一查所以我想要問一下當初國民黨執政的時候對於綠營的執政縣市大小眼 |
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有重大意外的時候還不積極的協助而如今你們再次提出挖錢法案請問你們居心何在今天本黨有提出有郭國文委員、賴慧雲委員、李坤成委員、吳秉苑委員還有吳立華委員都提出認為上次的會議易事錄應屬無效那我們想要請問你們在我們的提案當中你們有沒有看到自己不動違法的部分 |
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剛剛本黨有委員提出必須要請韓國瑜院長召開協商針對上一個禮拜三的狀況提出來討論跟協商我想請問國民黨委員你們自己的觀點又是什麼呢而且根據立法院議事規則第53條議事錄應該記載的事項可是我們看到你們只記載了局部 |
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沒有記載所有議案的決議而且沒有記載表決的方法還有可否之訴嚴重的違反議事規則第53條規定如果你們對於我的說法有任何的質疑我就想要問在場的所有國民黨還有沒有再度缺席的民眾黨委員 |
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你們可不可以說出到底當天哪些人是贊成的而哪些人又是否定的而針對這些贊成跟否定你們是不是有提出討論完全沒有就快速散會陳玉珍主席就只想快速離開現場我要再次譴責陳玉珍主席這個行為謝謝 |
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好 謝謝接著我們請葛如君委員花言葛如君葛如君葛如君委員不在蔡宇宜委員花言好 謝謝主席 |
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我想上禮拜的財劃法的一個修法那我們陳玉珍主席在主持開會那我從一開始就跟陳玉珍講說基本上會議的進行因為相對單位基本上來的是不夠的邀請的也不足比方說在中央的部會你衛福部就沒有來你怎麼去討論到未來關於健保費 |
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委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
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九點開始開會到九點零三分就結束了會議然後就把整個財化法送出委員會所以才會有所謂三分鐘所以三分鐘的委員會在主條根本沒有辦法討論我們把地方政府邀請到了這邊你有辦法讓任何一個地方政府讓我們在場的每一個委員有辦法詢問嗎一個都沒有 |
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一個都沒辦法詢問所以我們還是具體建議國民黨應該要去思考程序的一個重要性你們一直在講說過去在處理前瞻預算的時候委員會也有這個程序不足你們在講剛剛郭國文委員在處理會計法的時候也有程序不足我要告訴國民黨 |
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這兩個法案的審查最後都退回我們財政委員會重新審查不管是前瞻或者是會計法都是後來在草野協商的時候就直接退回到了我們財政委員會在補足程序所以國民黨勒你們應該在具體的 |
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應該我們接下來就由韓國瑜院長來協商那我認為財化法既然涉及到了整個地方政府的一個財化的一個分配那我們應該愛好每個地方政府要充分的表示意見像最近大家都有說嘛那為什麼財化法只能用人口來做計算土地面積不重要嗎 |
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阿像有這個賴瑞榮的版本捏他用所謂的一個汙染的一個這個過去重工業然後汙染的一個狀況那既然都有這樣的一個情況存在我們不能漠視不見阿為什麼還要用過去那一套平行分配的方式造成地方的不公呢 |
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你知不知道你們這次處理到了垂直分配你們就把中央的預算都給我然後地方政府之間大家要怎麼分大家要怎麼分才是公平的才是安全的並不是說地方只要增加預算這樣就是公平的你看明明說臺北市有首都的3% |
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其他的地方政府就沒有這3%那這樣來說起來是公平嗎這個3%一定要保留的必要性在哪裡有說明嗎 沒有說明啊那同樣的預算到的地方如果土地面積比較大的他遇到天然災害遇到颱風遇到地震的時候他需要更多的預算來做災害的復原 |
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那這樣的話有辦法在我們這一部的財化法展現因為土地面積他要負擔的負擔的是不一樣的嗎 |
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阿這東西都沒討論那我們就要把他送出委員會所以禮拜三的時候在上禮拜三逐條討論我們就是希望這一些狀況是可以被討論的我有版本阿我的版本你們有討論嗎我的版本說要做農地的一個比例對我的版本你們在這裡都沒有被討論到阿 |
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我自己有版本啊賴瑞榮有版本國民黨這麼多委員都有版本然後我要再講一個重點欸事實上當天除了國民黨的版本之外我跟賴瑞榮、吳立法有版本民眾黨也有版本欸但是你們最後你們最後把他送出去的你們卻沒有講到民眾黨的版本你們國民黨還有那麼多委員有版本這些版本欸未來又怎樣 |
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未來他是怎樣啊他是一併送出去 |
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一併送出去要討論還是他們要保留未來再審理?你都沒說!對!你都沒說!阿民眾黨的版本你就這樣大家跳過去了那你們只是意思意思把我跟賴瑞隆的版本把它送到送到朝野協商事實上他就是沒有討論阿我在朝野協商的時候沒有辦法去確認到我的版本他如果換算在22個縣市的時候他的比例是多少嗎? |
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有辦法嗎?沒辦法啊那一類人說如果用污染做一個指標的話他換算到了所有22個縣市的時候每一個縣市應該要作為多少的指標有辦法知道嗎?這個都要在主條討論的時候大家要講清楚 |
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結果你們就不討論一隻肚子都要攔過攔過、跳過而且用騙的捏用騙的捏你們都說禮拜三事實上在程序上在程序上捏你禮拜三如果給大家討論的話如果禮拜四你還有一整天的時間捏 |
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後來你禮拜四你那天完全沒有做任何的會議了啊禮拜四就可以處理為什麼你不要在禮拜三的時候給大家充分討論我剛剛說了那麼多的指標這些指標要回到22縣市它所佔的分配應該要佔多少分配這個都很重要 |
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結果你們這些東西都人過了所以我還是具體建議啦我們既然程序上有這些問題過去遇到這個在委員會沒有充分討論的時候還是會退回到了就會退回我們民進黨當時也是主動退的啊那有啦 |
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我們還是具體建議啦就是退到了財委會啦你們把這個退到財委會啦 |
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黃衛給那個育嬰繼續講啦好啦,思敏好啦,所以反正我們就是建議嘛你們過去的時候也有這樣過去前瞻的時候前瞻的時候你們對邱育嬰處理你們認為有瑕疵當時也是退回財政委員會啊 |
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也是退回委員會審查嘛對啊所以我是覺得國民黨你們不要把法案搞到有瑕疵那換我們就好好處理嘛該好好討論每個人都會有充分的討論嘛每個地方政府有他的堅持啊你們國民黨還是有很多 |
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好啦是吧那個謝謝啦我想因為那個議議委員他是幹部所以他感受特別深啦特別深那謝謝謝謝蔡議委員接著請張雅琳委員花言 |
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好 謝謝主席我想今天我們每一個人的三分鐘如果以陳玉珍過法案的速度我們今天可以過多少法案就是說今天上來這三分鐘的時間我大概要花非常多的時間在闢謠因為其實剛剛國民黨的委員造了非常非常多的謠例如他們說什麼現在不要杯葛預算黨預算都不管了嗎大家都不管民生的救命錢了嗎要以民生為念種種的這些說法 |
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坦白說過去兩個多月到底是誰在擋救命錢誰在擋民生優先的預算就是國民黨 |
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再說一次誰在擋民生優先的錢誰在擋國家的總預算就是國民黨再來剛剛還有一直不停的提到就是說財化法25年沒有修了還不趕快修民進黨也有委員題版本民政黨也有委員題版本但是有被好好討論嗎同時這過去25年馬英九政府沒有執政嗎他沒有執政嗎 |
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那他有修嗎?不要全部都甩鍋到民進黨身上再來整個過程之中一直不停地去強調說我們有造議事的程序 |
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我想這其實就是國會擴權法案再現啦就是走一個流程但是並沒有進行所有的實質討論因為整個在議事錄上面呈現的就是三分鐘過法案而且呢而且呢而且這個過程之中呢並沒有依照職權行使法第九條第二項來依規定逐條依序提附討論再來也沒有依規定來讓委員逐條發言 |
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沒有讓在場的委員發言之外也沒有徵詢停止討論下就直接進行處理條文違反議事規則也違反委員實質討論的空間再來也沒有依照規定來進行表決程序睜眼說瞎話從頭到尾點名表決只有點國民黨的委員出席委員總共14人卻只有唱名反對者的6人 |
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沒有依照簽到簿進行暢明也沒有依照規定點名表決可否均不過半數 |
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所以我想因為剛剛國民黨的委員一直不停地說要口口聲聲說要幫執政黨非常在乎賴清德總統的想法然後我想那既然助人工作者有一個最基本的概念我來教一下國民黨的委員們就是你要依據被幫助的人的想法來執行 |
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所以國民黨委員口口聲聲說要來幫助執政黨所屬口口聲聲說要遵循賴清德的總統的想法那我想大家應該有共識我們就依據職權行使法第68條有重大爭議時我們就請韓院長來召開朝野協商那這週的議事錄就無效也無法確定這個議事錄謝謝接著請郭益勤委員花言 |
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國務卿委員、國務卿委員、國務卿委員不到那接著請陳慶威委員發言 |
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主席各位委員大家早安這個板子比較大一點但是剛因為聽到許許多多人在講述沒有討論很少討論所以剛剛花一點時間去把這個表格整理出來那這個表格就是我來幫各位委員一起回憶我們從上一個會期就開始關於第11屆的財政收支劃分法修正案的審議概況 |
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審議概況致敬已經召開了審查會6次、公聽會2次並且安排了一次考察參與審查會公聽會的委員發言次數總共達158人次相關會議起經含37小時又35分鐘我們現在當然又不斷的在延續中會議性質審查會6次有113年5月20號的下午總共有13位委員 |
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從下午的2點31分一直發表到下午的4點37分113年6月3日有17位委員發言總共從早上的9點03分一直到12點28分113年6月5號 |
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第一次初步審查會議地方政府總共有21位代表出席充分的表達他們地方政府的需求從早上9點04分一直到10點09分113年6月19日總共有13位委員繼續審查從早上的9點01分一直到11點44分113年 |
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10月21日以及23日是兩天一次會總共有39人次含會議、詢問、程序發言、繼續審查從早上9點到下午的5點44分113年11月4日、6日、7日三天一次會總共有59人次會議、詢問、程序發言、繼續審查第一天從9點一直到晚上的10點31分公聽會議我們舉辦了兩次 |
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是113年6月5日總共有11位委員發言還有專家學者9位出席從早上的10點18分一直到下午的1點17分還有113年10月7日總共有6位委員發言公聽會專家學者9位出席從早上的9點一直到11點48分 |
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考察一次當這個就職典禮的時候財委會還是不忘要工作所以5月20日上午我們考察了財政部近10年中央統籌分配稅款分配各地方政府的情形所以這樣子的討論我想是非常的充分的這個25年沒有休其實我們來回想一下 |
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二零零一年有一個非常跨黨派的高貴的合作也就是當時賴總統身為賴立委跟朱立倫主席同樣是立議院的同事所以朱立倫主席提出了草案當時還有賴總統時任賴委員來簽署但現在卻翻臉不認人 |
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所以我們細數下來的話其實賴總統時任賴立委就簽署了4次蕭副總統簽署了11次鄭麗君副院長簽署了8次這個深深的關憂他們在國際形象的問題畢竟這也是他們以前心心念念的法案還有他們的誠信問題我希望在這邊大家一致的去支持蕭副總統以及鄭副院長的法案還可以念出之前蔡政府 |
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當選以後林全院長講過許多非常有名的金句他說財化法如果不改國家是沒有希望的這就是邁向中央財政正軌的最初步加減法還有地方表面自治但是財政權揉握在中央的手上所以希望大家可以念之蒼生為了我們地方政府的老人家以及小朋友的教育問題一起來努力謝謝 |
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接著我們請王美惠委員花言王美惠、王美惠、王美惠委員不在今天我們就是剛才的程序花言已經經過這麼長的一個時間那其實有很多不同的意見是不是我們休息討論一下 |
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7176.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
7190.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
休息、休息、協商號、休息、協商會、會給大家開會、休息、協商號今天審的是國家的預備金、跟詐騙大家不鬧事、又喊全城一聲、又喊全城一聲、又喊全城一聲、 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
7224.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
7236.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
我們現在休息那協商進駐協商各位同仁我們現在休息進駐協商一定要開會一定要開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
7263.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
7271.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
各位同仁我們現在進入協商休息一下休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
7638.387 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
7646.132 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
7665.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
7690.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
好來各位同仁我們準備開會哈國民黨非常投入也一直要開會哈這個我跟陳一貞不一樣哈那個把官員邀請來了我們就是充分的讓他們去那個做報告那接著我們開始就是請議事人員先讀今日的議程那我先來介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
7697.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
7708.084 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
進入開會程序尊重委員尊重主席尊重主席尊重主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
7714.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
7721.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
來,請藝術人員先讀今日的議程好不好,請藝術人員。邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、審計部陳審計處、審計部長瑞敏率所屬單位主管列席業務報告。 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
7730.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
7751.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20會 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
7752.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
7761.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席、委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
7779.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
7799.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
請議事人員先讀話會助理、會助理、會助理現在處理體驗請主席現在處理體驗不要違反議事程序來現在議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
7804.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
7813.787 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄請主席確認議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
7833.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
7852.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
7859.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
7873.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
來各位同仁我們確認議事錄請確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
7881.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
7898.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
行政院常務副秘書長李國興議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄主席要確認議事錄在程序開會李毅君處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
7903.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
7905.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
主席要確認議事錄!確認議事錄!確認議事錄!確認議事錄!確認議事錄! |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
7929.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
7937.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
協議院議事陸、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、協議院議事陸、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、協議院議事陸、中央統計處、 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
7952.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
7973.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
律師處喜文壽部長審訊開會律師處楊滿娥主任鄭方氏陳美倫主任我們的主計處詹主任接著介紹審計部審計長陳瑞敏審計長我們的副審計長李順寶 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
7982.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
7988.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
我們的第一廳廳長、林廳長、第二廳廳長、陳正陽廳長、第三廳廳長、趙成熙客人、總行業全員議事長、王春熙廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
8000.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
8006.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
第5廳廳長林建智、林建長第6廳廳長葉映晨廳長、葉映晨廳長、葉映晨廳長、王主幹 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
8018.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
8027.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
確認審計業務研究會執行秘書或執行秘書主席這個程序開會請主席宣派張執行邁書已經列完提案了,怎麼沒有宣傳員嗎?關鍵審計議題發展委員會您執行秘書、執行處、邱處長確認議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
8043.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
8044.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
請主席照程序開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
8060.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
8081.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
新區藍安人事室我們的黃主任、協議院議事會會計是我們的王雪林黃主任、政風室我們的李主任、教育農林審計處李香梅處長、商用建設審計處李立新處長、臺北市審查處張處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
8088.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
8099.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
新北市審計處張處長、桃園市審計處張處長臺中市審計處吳處長臺南市審計處陳處長高雄市審計處林處長基隆市審計處朱主任宜蘭市審計處陸主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
8120.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
8132.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
新竹縣審計處黃主任、新竹市審計處劉主任、苗栗縣審計處、審計室郭主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
8138.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
8155.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
張華縣審計室我們的謝主任南投縣審計室我們的楊主任雲林縣審計室我們的王主任嘉義縣審計室我們的陳主任嘉義市審計處我們的魏主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
8156.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
8171.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
屏東縣審計室李主任花蓮縣審計室劉主任屏東縣審計室邱主任澎湖縣審計室莊主任金門縣審計室楊主任好接著我們來介紹財政部國庫署署長陳署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
8183.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
8193.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
那我們行政院人事總處我們的人事長蘇人事長好 謝謝那接著 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
8196.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
8223.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
那我來介紹在現場的委員那首先我們介紹林德福委員、吳秉岳委員賴世保委員、郭國文委員、黃鴻威委員黃珊珊委員、李坤臣、李燕秀、顏寬涵、羅明才、陳益臻、賴慧妍、吳立華、王世堅 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
8225.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
8250.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
黃國昌、洪孟凱委員再來還有謝龍介委員在哪裡還有哪些委員沒有交到的還有哪些委員沒有交到的還有吳宗憲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
8254.332 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
8278.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
還有吳宗憲委員林思敏林思敏委員郭益勤委員張雅琳委員蔡易宇委員翁曉琳委員還有吳思堯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
8288.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
8294.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院主計總處、審計部跟所屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
8308.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
8328.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
直轄市及縣市政府調整軍公教待役準備金還有災害準備金第二億備金預算案今日請行答那我們先請行政院常務副秘書長李國興報告預算案的內容謝謝請副秘書長上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
8338.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
8357.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
立法委員請讓副秘書長上臺花言好嗎會會處理提案會處理提案我們先讓副秘書長報告預算案的內容好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
8362.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
8369.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
為什麼不讓官員報告?國民黨委員不是要開會嗎?國民黨委員不是要開會嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
8372.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
8378.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
處理提案會處理先讓官員先讓官員進行業務報告先讓官員進行業務報告來 國民黨委員請讓官員進行業務報告不是要開會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
8394.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
8398.942 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
按照意識規則要開會請讓我們的副秘書長進行業務報告按照意識規則會會會處理會處理哈請按照意識規則按照意識規則國民黨按照按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
8422.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
8434.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
來,國民黨委員請那副秘書長來發言好不好,業務報告及內容請尊重主席,議事程序是主席決定的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
8436.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
8452.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
議事程序是主席決定的會處理會處理提案要處理提案要處理主席按照議事規則確認議事規則確認議事規則確認議事規則來進行業務報告請按照議事規則請按照議事規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
8468.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
8472.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
請按這個議事規則提案要處理了國民黨委員不是要開會嗎?我們先讓國花會副秘書長進行業務報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
8493.728 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
8501.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
請各位尊重主席的才色好不好請福利體驗剛剛已經發言完畢了你放尊重一點陳毓正那是背巡台 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
8511.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
8530.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
你又不是內閣官員你下來啦陳昕臻陳昕臻你下來不要杯葛人家報告啦陳昕臻你不要再干擾自己了啦陳昕臻陳昕臻你不要佔領備詢台啦不要佔領備詢台陳昕臻不要佔領備詢台陳昕臻不要佔領備詢台陳昕臻陳昕臻不要佔領備詢台陳昕臻陳昕臻不要佔領備詢台陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳昕臻陳� |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
8539.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
8561.312 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
8566.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
8581.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
提案都馬上在後面處理提案哪有在開會就馬上處理提案都馬上在後面再處理中午再處理提案的然後一開始再處理提案的財政委員會同學一開始再處理提案的財政委員會同學一開始再處理提案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
8584.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
8599.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
國民黨財政委員會都在一開始要處理提案了財政委員會都在中午的時候在處理提案了好不好不要亂了好不好 國民黨回去坐好啦 要開會了啦讓官員備詢 讓官員備詢 讓官員備詢陳一貞你不是官員你下來陳一貞下來 陳一貞下來 陳一貞下來陳一貞滾蛋 陳一貞滾蛋 陳一貞滾蛋陳一貞不要霸位置 陳一貞滾蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
8611.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
8621.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋不要霸佔位置!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳一貞滾蛋!陳 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
8635.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
8644.046 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
該吃藥了趕快趕快回去吃藥陳昕正回去吃藥陳昕正回去吃藥回去吃藥回去吃藥去裝牙齒趕快裝牙齒無恥之徒趕快裝牙齒趕快確認意識錄按照意識規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
8650.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
8666.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
陳審牙醫在找你了陳審趕快去看醫生陳審去看醫生陳審牙齒沒有看醫生趕快補牙無恥之徒陳審趕快看醫生陳審無恥之徒趕快看醫生陳審看醫生了時間到了時間到了陳審不要在那邊站位置趕快吃藥了趕快吃藥了趕快吃藥了看醫生陳審看醫生吃藥陳審趕快看醫生趕快吃藥陳審 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
8680.176 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
8696.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
趕快!趕快!陳玉珍無恥自圖本席在這裡宣布國民黨委員不讓官員來做報告我們現在先休息先休息休息! |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
8708.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
8715.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
你喊休息了!你喊休息了!你喊休息了!你喊休息了!你喊休息了! |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
8726.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
8749.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
人家喊休息了你幹嘛衝上來啊隨便喊休息主席當然可以喊休息啊主席的權利啊我們禮拜一的時候不是也喊休息嗎我們禮拜二、禮拜一你不是也不解決嗎陳昱正禮拜一你不是也不休息嗎我們禮拜一禮拜一你也不休息嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
8761.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
8764.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
先開會啦!先開會!他不是說要開會!要開會嘛你! |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
8792.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
8801.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
審碼定!貴碼定!市長你怎麼會這樣?你怎麼會這樣?你怎麼會這樣?你怎麼會這樣?你怎麼會這樣?你怎麼會這樣? |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
8822.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
8836.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第12會期財政委員會第11屆第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
8850.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
8854.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
違反議事規則 違反議事規則 違反議事規則 違反議事規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
8867.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
8868.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
8902.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
8916.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部北市審計處、審計部北市審計處、審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市審計部北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
8920.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
8943.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
二、審查中華民國第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11屆第2會期財政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
8944.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
8963.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
二、審查中華民國第1屆第2會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
8968.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
8987.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
8996.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
9000.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
9025.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
9026.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
11473.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
11473.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
審議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
11487.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
11508.464 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
來主席確認議事錄主席宣布現在開會了我們中央跟地方很多觀眾都來了所以我們現在要開始開會那我們現在先請確認議事錄讀法會副秘書長上台來我處理提案請先確認議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
11515.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
11522.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
國民黨的同仁,既然要開會我們就照程序來進行啊!照程序來進行!國民黨到底要不要開會?國民黨到底要不要開會?國民黨到底要不要開會? |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
11554.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
11575.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
11581.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
11602.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
來我們現在讓國華會副秘書長來報告國民黨國民黨的委員請不要黨開會你們口口聲聲說要開會中央跟地方的官員都來了主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
11605.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
11608.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
委員會主席委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
11624.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
11647.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
來國民黨、國民黨的同仁我們請行政院、行政院常務、副秘書長李國勛、李副秘書長花妍、針對人業務報告、行政院、行政院副秘書長、行政院副秘書長不要動官員!請不要動官員! |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
11652.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
11655.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
賴世保越來打官員賴世保越來打官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
11682.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
11698.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
賴思寶限制官員人身自由國民黨不要打官員啦你們只是要開會我們也要開會啊大家一起坐下來開會國民黨的委員不要打官員不要打官員賴思寶打官員剛剛看到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
11702.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
11728.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
讓官員開會干擾議程賴世寶打官員干擾議程賴世寶打官員賴世寶打官員讓官員報告賴世寶不要打官員啦不要打官員報告你不要建置官員的人身自由你不要創下惡例建置官員人身自由創下惡例創下惡例無恥之徒賴世寶委員不要打官員啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
11730.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
11731.511 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
財政部委員會去報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
11736.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
11755.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
請尊重主席啊要讓官員報告啊居然要搶官員麥克風還限制人家人身自由限制人家自由要開會要開會賴世寶李燕笑李燕笑請坐下馬上要開會賴世寶打官員賴世寶打官員搶麥克風打官員搶麥克風打官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
11761.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
11784.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
搶麥克風打官員搶麥克風、賴世寶搶官員搶麥克風打官員賴世寶搶麥克風打官員而且限制官員發言限制官員發言不讓官員報告不想開會不想開會不想開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
11787.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
11802.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
不想開會不想開會又要搶麥克風了你看暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針暴力針 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
11811.147 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
11815.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
瑞士堡打官員瑞士堡打官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
11827.402 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
11837.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
國民黨不想開會陳毓民說你不要配我陳毓民說你不要配我陳毓民說你不要配我陳毓民說你不要配我 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
11847.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
11855.713 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
國民黨李燕瀉、黨軍公教嘉欣國民黨李燕瀉、黨軍公教嘉欣國民黨李燕瀉、黨軍公教嘉欣 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
11862.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
11877.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨民進黨、暴力黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
11889.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
11897.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
民進黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員、國民黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
11904.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
11910.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
做程序開會啦!賴世寶打官員!賴世寶打官員!賴世寶打官員! |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
11922.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
11933.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
陳毓珍別暴力陳毓珍別暴力做程序開會做程序開會做程序開會你們做程序開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
11938.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
11967.796 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
負程序開會負程序開會負程序開會負程序開會負程序開會負程序開會負程序開會請尊重主席請尊重主席尊重主席尊重主席啊安靜一下安靜一下請尊重主席安靜一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
11969.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
11983.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
安靜一下安靜一下請尊重主席請尊重主席安靜啦安靜啦國民黨安靜一下啦本席本席非常的遺憾國民黨委員確立意思錄不給官員上台確立意思錄這個程序非常遺憾國民黨委員確立意思錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
11994.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
12022.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
在程序開會確認,等會討論到一半的剛剛討論的確認意思錄剛剛已經開到一半了國民黨文常會主委要解釋一下國民黨剛剛已經這是議會的跟法定的你自己帶來的你自己帶來的你自己帶來的你自己帶來的你自己帶來的你自己帶來的你自己帶來的按照程序你自己帶來的按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序按照程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
12023.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
12045.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
院校委員按照程序開會請確認議事錄按照程序請先確認議事錄院校委員按照在麥克風啊院校委員陳述才對主席在這裡做報告國民黨委員按照程序開會不給官員上台不給官員上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
12053.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
12072.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
來主席在這裡宣布國民黨委員不給官員上的牌那現在現在確認議事錄我比陳一貞來的還公正所以確認議事錄確認議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
12077.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
12089.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
請你們給官員上臺,如果不給官員上臺的話,會產生疑問。讓我們簽證,簽證休息。一位官員,我們通知你們回來看來。確認議事錄!確認議事錄!確認議事錄!確認議事錄!確認議事錄! |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
12104.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
12105.684 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
民進黨不開會!民進黨不開會! |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
12126.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
12127.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
民進黨不開會!民進黨不開會! |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
12154.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
12161.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
12174.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
12194.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
國民黨非法攜帶武器啊國民黨非法攜帶麥克風國民黨非法攜帶麥克風國民黨非法攜帶麥克風這些人非法的麥克風差異於要把它拿掉拿掉這些非法的麥克風國民黨國民黨違法國民黨違法國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
12197.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
12205.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
蔡易餘擋住你是不是?蔡易餘打住你蔡易餘打住你蔡易餘打住你 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
12213.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
12214.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
在議場怎麼可以用私人的麥克風呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
12228.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
12228.699 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
12243.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
12245.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
12266.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
12266.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
臺北市審計局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
12281.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
12284.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
12300.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
12310.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
我要把會議那個斷掉!不應該用案子!會議程序不應該用!別動麥克風!這個韓國瑜院長都有講過!韓國瑜院長都有講過的!沒有啊!我現在在用啊!我現在在用啊!不要!我現在在用啊!不要用這個麥克風!不要用這個麥克風! |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
12326.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
12331.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
12350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
12358.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
我們少數我們也沒有在用麥克風啊,而且你們有啊,我們就跟你說你們人多數,為什麼要用麥克風?你就不給官員發言啊,對啊你們要尊重整個會議程序啊,你要尊重程序啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
12373.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
12378.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
這個是財委會的啊陳一貞拿這個是什麼陳一貞拿的是什麼來陳一貞拿的是什麼來二代 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
12395.689 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
12404.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
為什麼都要用私人的麥克風?尖叫機大家帶著麥克風會干擾到別人啊干擾到誰?啊這裡沒有啊現勤換啦,他是現勤換啦麥克風為什麼要用私人的? |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
12414.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
12423.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
對不對?國民黨在怎樣?我們上禮拜沒有發言,我們有準備麥克風嗎?上禮拜沒有,就是沒有才會有今天的正義啊上禮拜那是程序發言,主調討論的時候有發言嗎?完全沒有!完全沒有! |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
12439.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
12442.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
為什麼不可以關掉?為什麼不可以關掉?為什麼啊? |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
12467.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
12487.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
末生違法外交法還是現行犯還任長要求的就是現行犯末生違法外交法還是現行犯末生違法外交法還是現行犯末生違法外交法還是現行犯末生違法外交法還是現行犯末生違法外交法還是現行犯末生違法外交法還是現行犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
12490.807 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
12493.109 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
國民黨自己帶麥克風進場啊! |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
12517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
12519.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
你們才在干擾啊!自己帶麥克風進來干擾啊! |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
12524.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
12544.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
12550.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
12578.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
12581.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
12588.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、民進黨、 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
12607.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
12608.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
12620.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
12640.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
12643.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
12658.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風陳玉珍拿違法麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
12673.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
12674.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
公民黨開個記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
12678.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
12707.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
來來來來來來我們五分鐘之後開記者會用我們的麥克風開記者會來來各位媒體五分鐘之後國民黨要用自己的麥克風開記者會來再過五分鐘四分鐘國民黨要開記者會用自己的麥克風開記者會來國民黨的集合我們用自己的麥克風開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
12721.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
12727.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
15044.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
15045.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
22080.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
22092.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
22096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
22119.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
22130.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
22130.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
委員會議員委員會議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
22159.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
22161.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
、審計部新北市審計處、審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
22185.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
22201.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
22231.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
22252.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
22291.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
22315.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
22320.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
22325.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
22346.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
22370.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
22374.224 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
22390.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
22401.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
22418.009 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
22442.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
22443.111 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
22468.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
22481.061 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
22502.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
22517.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
22546.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
22562.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
22575.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
22593.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
22612.176 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
22626.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
22635.333 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
22660.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
二、審查中華民國新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
22661.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
22680.449 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
22689.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
22705.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
22720.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
22725.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
22747.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
22770.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
22776.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
22801.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
22802.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
22809.309 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
22855.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
22858.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
委員會議員委員會議員委員會議員委員會議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
22895.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
22916.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、審計部、 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
22917.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
22943.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
都不敢離開立法院都還在等嗎?按照這件事﹖所有的地方都還在審計上﹖主計長、審計部、審計在位都在立法院不敢離開我們協議現在會員主席總算回來了主席總算回來了主席總算回來了主席總算回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
22960.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
22962.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
今天是審計費金的來不回啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
22981.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
23002.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
今天就審單位主管列席業務會議員、單位主管列席業務會議員、單位主管列席業務會議員、單位主管列席業務會議員、單位主管列席業務會議員、單位主管列席業務會議員、單位主管列席業務會議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
23012.312 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
23029.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
23033.456 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
23045.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
23058.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
23082.358 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
23085.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
23113.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
23114.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
23140.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
23149.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
23168.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
23170.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
23192.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
23194.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
23214.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
23218.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
23243.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
二、審查中華民國11年度中華民國11年度中華民國11年度中華民國11年度中華民國11年度中華民國11年度中華民國11年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
23253.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
23275.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
23280.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
23305.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
23311.408 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
23322.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
23332.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
23356.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
23360.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
23389.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
23392.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
23415.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
23429.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
23441.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
23471.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
23492.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
23512.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
23535.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
23554.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
23571.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
23580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
23592.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
23609.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
23618.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
23618.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
23645.978 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
23652.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
23678.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
23681.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
23705.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
23715.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
23715.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
委員會議員委員會議員委員會議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
23755.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
23781.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
23794.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
23804.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
23809.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
23831.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
23832.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
23847.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
23854.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
23873.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
23892.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
23915.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
23917.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
23936.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
23943.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
23959.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
23970.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
23990.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
23993.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
24007.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
24012.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
24027.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
二、審查中華民國10年度中華民國10年度中華民國10年度中華民國10年度中華民國10年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
24029.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
24058.416 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
24060.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
24072.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
24075.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
24101.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
24114.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
24131.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會議第2會議第3會議第4會議第5會議第6會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
24154.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
24174.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
24181.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
24206.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
24216.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
24244.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
24267.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
24268.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
24291.447 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
24313.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
二、審查中華民國10年度中華民國10年度中華民國10年度中華民國10年度中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
24321.251 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
24344.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
24345.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
24363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
24363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
24384.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
24385.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
24405.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
24405.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
24420.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
24424.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
24449.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市� |
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24450.684 |
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24466.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
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24473.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
24483.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
24484.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
24509.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
24511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
24533.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
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24534.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
24552.449 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
24552.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
24574.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
24605.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
24607.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
喂喂喂聲音很小對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
24632.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
24632.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
24645.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
24662.073 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
24663.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
24687.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
24693.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
24716.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
24718.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
24746.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
24748.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
24773.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
審計部委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
24779.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
24805.978 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
24812.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
24835.296 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
24842.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
24868.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
24871.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
24875.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
、審計部北市審計處、審計部北市審計處、審計部北市審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
24912.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
24927.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
議員議員議員議員議員議員議員議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
24933.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
24959.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16會期財政委員會第17會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第18會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第19會期財政委員會第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
24965.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
24982.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
二、審查中華民國11屆第1會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第13會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第14會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第15會期財政委員會第16 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
25022.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
25032.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北市審計部新北 |
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31321.451 |
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31321.972 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
委員會主席 |
| IVOD_ID |
16246 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16246 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-7 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-11T08:29:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-11T17:30:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |