| IVOD_ID |
162451 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162451 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-11 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-11T11:55:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-11T12:04:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5dae1827dbf6c95bf12b767eb573ef023e49d939498c5adea46edf933af680854671cd304e1f855ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:55:35 - 12:04:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會（事由：「法院組織法有關司法公開透明修正立法之探討」公聽會） |
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張熙楷委員發言之前我先做一個程序上的宣告啦我們公聽會上午的會議時間就繼續進行到所有的發言都結束為止好 請 |
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謝謝主席今天安排這麼好的這個公聽會今天我傾聽了一個早上正面反面跟中間的聲音都有很好我覺得就是應該多傾聽這個意見這邊其實台灣民眾黨提出這次這個法庭直播有四大很重要的依據 |
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第一個是民國106年司法改革國事會議的結論像大家如果仔細看我們的提案都是依照當時的結論去做的第二個我們做過了大型的這個民調高達七成五以上的民眾是贊成的國昌有提醒那個水泳你民進黨的民眾也絕大部分是希望可以看到法庭直播的另外國外有很多的這個例子我前幾天在這邊已經 |
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不算打臉啦我已經提醒了民進黨的這個吳思堯吳委員不是法庭直播不是只有大陸也不是只有北韓在先進的國家美國加拿大跟英國都是有的我們剛剛上清下修有講在德國有一部分也是有的嘛對不對這個它是一個改革的方向另外有個第四的依據其實國內也有過啊蘇建和韓也有過嘛所以這四大依據 |
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我們在這種狀況之下提出來裡面最重要的一個依據是什麼呢一百零六年為什麼叫做國司法改革就是民眾對司法的滿意度很低嘛人們有很多疑問啊所以你猜英文才要召集所有的專家學者要開這個司法改革會所以今天我們是站在一個分水嶺上面你是要往改革方向走而且倒退入要去反改革特別是我剛剛講已經有四大依據了特別是台灣民眾黨的這個提案 |
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清清楚楚是依照當時的這個結論包括當時結論裡面明確建議是什麼法律審在延遲辯論應該是要全面直播另外呢去延避事實審有某些特定案件去進行直播所以台灣民眾黨提出來的具體的這個內容包括第一個我們建立法庭直播的時候是明定法律審原則是公開的例外不公開可是事實審 |
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事實審視原則不公開 例外是公開的你看 這也是當初大家所有專家學者包括還有改革色彩時候的蔡英文提出來的這是第一個點第二個點我們開放條件是非常明確的 有兩個一個由被告主動來申請今天我聽到某些學者說這個可能會侵犯到被害沒有啊 |
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就在保障他 所以他主動可以提什麼會不會傷害到被告呢另外呢由法院基於重大的公共利益還有社會上重大的矚目案件才開放 才一定去開放啊他一定是社會上很多的嘛所以不會出現民進黨講的什麼花六七百億直播沒有 第一個 |
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一定是重大的這個案件而且對整個社會公共利益是有幫助的你才會這樣做嘛而且我那天也提了民進黨不要講說什麼花太多錢第一個 禮拜年每天大家都要看直播對不對我去問過啦 明年大概就是一億嘛所以不要弄一個什麼六七百億這個謊言出來是不好的第二個 現在那個 我是從媒體來 |
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大家知道嗎 現在比較重要一些會議包括中東會開會有時候你協調協調有一個電視台進去嘛他不只轉播啊這個錢轉播費用人事費用都是可以省下來的所以錢也不是問題另外呢 |
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我們要採取不是強制的具備有裁量而且是非常謹慎的這個原則我們明確排除喔案子裡面如果是未成年人性侵的案子家庭暴力或者是機密國安等案件是排除在外的 |
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這個都是當時106年司法改革會議的這個結論啊所以啊 我們的態度說這個不是一個司法的秀場 它是一個制度的公開我今天啊 特別帶了兩段影音都很短 我給大家看一下好不好我們看一下 當初還是有改革色彩的蔡英文當初的民進黨怎麼來推動司法改革 讓我們對他一路來我們看一下當初蔡英文怎麼講司法院 |
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將陸續開放法庭法院也將陸續開放法庭直播法院也將陸續開放法庭直播法院也將陸續開放法庭直播法庭直播法庭直播法庭直播讓必要的資訊更加透明 |
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讓必要的資訊可以公開透明其實這幾天我有時候常去司法院旁聽司法院那個牆壁上面掛了一個要推動公開透明我們現在沒有辦法推動來另外剪了一段來我們看一下當初這個做結論的時候主持會議的來我們聽看看市市審在一定的條件下可以直播這樣的用語可以嗎對好 全面反對市市審直播 |
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三票,好,那贊成直播的,十四省可以直播嘛,所以不是英語而是可以嘛的確是十票啊,那就是一定要主席表態啊,真實,現在是什麼意思那有十個人逼迫我投票,那我也只好投票啦,就是這樣,那就是十四票啦建議加,因為你們的提案,所以可能只有你們可以加,就是高度憲政爭議,及政治性安全沒問題,損害救濟,如果因為法庭直播產生出來的損害救濟,其實也應該一定考慮 |
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我可不可以建議再加一個類型重大經濟還可以所以寫重大經濟案件就好了因為這是蓋瓜星的語言啦重大主謀案件各位提到很多現在的敏感性案件公開直播的效應是什麼大家稍微想像一下喔如果今天這個公開主謀案件它隨時受網民監督喔事後還會被肉搜正人講話會不會有心理壓力可能要顧慮了 |
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其实公开透明要考虑的真的非常多但是呢如果我们认为公开透明是一条不归路剩下就真的是安全机制的问题那我们也对自己的能力要有一点信心我们是一个有能力的现代公民准备去面对所有的困难解决我们所面对的任何难题我们今天是其实有结论就很好然后大家的共识是很清楚的这点比什么都重要 |
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這個主持會議的是前大法官 許一秀許一秀的話為什麼要特別要剪出來司法改革是一條不歸路我們本來就要往前走啊 現在又倒退路而且我們對我們自己也要有信心好不好謝謝給我一分鐘好不好 我做個剪大家都知道啊 我剛剛講不是全世界很多國家而已大家一定記得強尼代普大家想一想喔 強尼代普的老婆啊 |
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安保賀德他那時候就是用媒體審判啊沒有法庭直播之前他老婆放了多少消息給媒體一面倒啊強尼戴普怎麼去救回來他的法庭直播救了強尼戴普也救了一個司法正義嘛一樣的我給大家看一個負面的例子我們國內有一個很有名的叫媽媽嘴命案大家有印象嗎那時候那個老闆叫李炳宏沒有法庭直播啊 |
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多慘啊這咖啡店老闆因為被誣告被羈押的時候那時候已經有多少媒體知道消息一直在放消息他是不是已經被媒體公審了所以現在有沒有柯文哲也是啊你在媒體現在有沒有在公審柯文哲有沒有以前公審這個李炳宏這個問題要怎麼解決讓陽光射進法院 |
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法庭直播可以解決這個問題對不對 法庭所有的審判過程都是經得起考驗的第一個 不會有願意民眾對司法的信任度才會提高我也做一個結論好 謝謝謝謝 事實上只要法庭直播我記得對司法院也是好的這段時間司法院出了太多事情包括鐘鼎文跑掉什麼那些啦包括什麼台南一些案子陳忠業的案子 |
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人民一定很想看透過法庭直播陳中彥都已經被起訴了台北地院竟然判沒罪現在檢察官又起訴我現在全國民眾也是在想怎麼透過法庭直播清清楚楚知道到底出了什麼事情為什麼會判陳中彥去幫他父親的廠商所有相關人都有罪了陳中彥沒罪 |
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中頂門跑掉了這案子人民都等著要看嘛對不對透過陽光設計設計司法體系讓我們的司法體系受到人民的信任謝謝 |