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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-08T10:00:00+08:00 |
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謝謝謝謝各位黨團幹部列席非常感謝而且今天久違了我們柯建民柯總召也終於現身了大家都非常開心好久沒想到你好久沒見好久沒見各位黨團幹部大家都非常關切這個行白禮者辦酒食總議算案在朝野的努力之下原則上大家都沒有意見我們的話我們就開始簽字確認讓本案 |
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復為審查將來我們還要針對本案進行協商院會的二讀三讀才能完成本案的審議大家繼續努力那現在我在這裡嘗試性的念一個協商的草稿請大家發到每個黨團幹部手上沒有來我們請議事人員發到每個黨團幹部手上 |
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我們立法院我嘗試念一下請大家仔細聆聽立法院黨團協商結論時間113年11月8日 |
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星期五上午10點地點紅樓302會議室協商主題延商114年度中央政府總預算案相關事宜我們決定事項有兩點一各黨團同意行政院針對原住民進法補償健保點值及公糧收購等案之解決方案如後付並請行政院一該解決方案其成辦理二 |
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各黨團同意114年度中央政府總預算案後續處理事項增列納入第八次會議議程於11月8日星期五院會討論事項前處理將114年度中央政府總預算案交財政委員會依分配表及日程分送各委員會審查並不提出複議 |
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請問各黨團幹部對這個初步我們所草寧的協商結論有沒有意見國民黨團臺灣民主黨好那我先簽字好不好我們先確定這個非常感謝大家 |
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好 現在我們繼續開會首先我們請民進黨團柯總統請發言院長 各位市長代表首先在這裡感謝各黨的輸出尤其在黨輸出的參議員和行政院之間能夠在憲法原則及依照法底下大家把這三個問題一起解決這是一個很好的開始正如副總統所講的 大家都往前走 |
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那在往前走的時候,我先針對今天的議程上面做一些嘗試性的建議那我是扁持一個比較善意的,因為今天民眾黨第一個到立法院先提案,裡面有了包括事項以及討論事項 |
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我們也提案,我們在這裏就打開天窗說亮話針對民眾黨的提案,我們本黨予以贊成我們提案裏面有包括沈柏洋等幾個人有六七個案子要跟人民關係條例,這部分我們就撤了今天不處理這些爭議性的,我們就不要管了就照民眾黨所提的方法是這樣,這樣順勢走下去 |
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那另外就是說有關於討論事項,民主黨也有提到討論事項當然有我們看一下,有的是會議案是今天可以處理嘛,那有否會的至於幾個人事同意前的話,我在這裡做嘗試去做法好不好那接下來我們開始面對立法院要如何正式來運作,而且時間很短 |
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我講一中一全,包括國民事業預算、總預算、職業預算等等都要必須完成後面還有很冗長的過程所以我比較常識性的建議就是說我們事實上下禮拜二針對三項人事同意權以及兩項預算案換言之第一個就是進入了非營業基金的預算,因為已經到昨天截止了 |
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那開始來講另外一個就是說有關於台電這項預算也要安排專案報告有後復違所以這幾個好像是這樣我是認為下禮拜二下禮拜一程也空的剛好我們可以來好好討論後面的三個人從一前以及兩個預算的時程如何安排那這樣的話我想今天 |
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另外一個,有關於報告事項裡面,我特別在這裡拜託,就是我們都照委員長所提的,不要表決徒生困擾。但是在這裡特別要請求,就是有些查殺案,上次一包退了嘛,我們今天四幾分鐘把它練完。那這樣整個程序就很完整,而且速度也很快。那下禮拜我們專心來處理。 |
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謝謝柯總召發言 請國民黨團發言 台灣民眾黨團請準備剛剛柯總召所講的大部分的內容國民黨團請表同意 |
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但是查找完的內容我們還是要詳細的待會review完之後再表示意見 |
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稍微稍候一下沒有問題大家秉持善意都沒有問題 |
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昨天行政院總統代理、總理院長也對在野黨表示出相當的誠意尤其昨天柯總召也聲明大義所以我想未來我們大家都會秉持這樣的一個氛圍來把一些對國家進步有幫忙的事物我們一起來推動 |
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委員會主席 |
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法定人數不足 |
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我們也會參著尊重柯總召盡量用查詔不要審查那我們把內容先review一下完之後我們再做一個明確的一個答覆我們都秉持善意來處理好 那王子傑副總召所談的我們可以接受我們查詔 你看那下次查詔也無所謂謝謝柯總召好看一下今天很難得見到慈眉善目的柯總召溫良恭儉讓的副總召現在我們接下來要請 |
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我們時常單挑中原九大門派的黃總裁發言那麼韓院長我好像勝為尊嚴好不好 |
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謝謝院長今天很高興看到柯總召來參加協商不管超越政黨各自政治立場怎麼樣先代表黨團預祝柯總召希望身體可以早日康復我覺得政治不能脫離人性這麼久沒有看到柯總召至於立法院戰場上面 |
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那我覺得該有的理數說完以後我們就切入正題第一個針對報告事項的部分依照我們今天早上的送案的內容那臺灣民眾黨黨團當然不會有任何意見那第二個部分剛剛柯總召針對我們的討論事項排序的第三案 |
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考試院人事同意權時程的審查拋出了那樣子的解決的議題那我只是想要代表黨團再次的重申我們的立場台灣民眾黨黨團對於人事同意權我們就是希望實質審查 |
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衝焰審查那我也要拜託我們執政團隊的朋友不要再繼續在新聞媒體上面散播說我們在擋人質同意權這樣的氣氛會很糟糕因為當你說我們在擋人質同意權的話那我就必須要用具體的行動 |
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我正式的提案,我也召集協商,冷凍期也過了,所以我今天排案要處理當然我理解,從民進黨的立場來講,他們可能希望所有人是一起包裹的來處理那今天,氣氛很好,剛剛院長也幫忙說了,說院長也願意就人事同意權審查的時程,發揮院長調和鼎案 |
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看大家是不是能夠形成一個共識所以就我們到討論事項第三案的部分就考試院人事同意權的部分那我們願意同意民進黨黨團的提議以及剛剛院長所表達的一個善意就讓院長適合的調和看看各個黨團在下個禮拜挑一個大家都方便的時間來針對具體的時程是不是有辦法達成共識來進行一個黨團協商 |
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那只是我想要最後確認一下所以今天我們臺灣民眾黨黨團所提出來的前兩案包括了針對於翁小林委員他們的復議案以及NCC組織法那我們是不是就按照程序進行 |
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那我講一下好不好 歐小英的會議案書記表決嘛NCC那個都要處理了 我們都要面對就三個同意權 三個人事同意權 一定兩個預算能夠擺出來那你這個還是今天要處理 也是要院長召集協商 活動不能處理 所以還是一樣市長委員你稍微等一下 柯總統講完再說好不好我需要幹事長請稍待一下 請繼續發言 |
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我是補充說明一下因為大法官解釋之後我們當初的立法院執選行使法針對人事同意權進行的一些條文其實立法院應當去審視因為現在條文會比較碎裂因為有些違憲有些合憲然後再搭配現行的原有的條文 |
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立法院黨協商．議案協商．議案協商．議案協商．議案協商． |
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這些步驟就會很明確所以這個必須先協調協商然後大家確認了未來的程序而且這要合乎憲法的意旨然後呢我們就可以很快的未來不管NCC不管是考試院不管大法官不管公平會這個都一套制度所以這是我們才會邀請求說韓院長下週趕快針對人事同意權的這個行使的這些期程包括這些程序我們做明確 |
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黃國昌總召請補充所以那個總召啊你NCCC組織法今天可以處理嗎 |
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那也要議員黨協商,三人同意權我們都要面對不是不是,ACC組織法跟同意權那是兩個擺設嘛ACC組織法今天也...我只要告一句話,但是還沒有議員黨協商嘛那要由總統來處理我先這樣說齁我現在說到原則啦我知道你的想法,我相信我們都會一直就是今天主委就主委,今天民主就民主因為這個時間很久了,我們也不能拖 |
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因為今天柯總召 |
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身體比較好的來實際參加為了歡迎柯總召回來有些話我想說我都講得比較緩和一點不要難得讓好的氣氛破壞掉那只不過說剛剛跟院長溝通的過程當中我只是要跟院長報告的事情是說我們目前所提出來的提案都是按照議事規則在走的我覺得這個事情 |
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要確認清楚這個事情要確認清楚在這個基礎上面為了表達善意我們可以多等一個禮拜沒有問題可以多等一個禮拜沒有問題但是我們的提案都是按照議事規則在走的這個事情要確認清楚否則的話以後會大家院長你會非常的疲憊我知道 |
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謝謝黃國昌總召那接下來請林思銘蘇理長發言謝謝那個院長就報告事項部分我們國民黨也有提案跟民進黨其實內容是一樣的所以我們就是待會請院長就可以並案來就我們的一起來並案一起來做成這個決議 |
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人事權重申 |
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職權行事法現在當然已經大官的決定已經出來了那我們當然一些細節要談嘛所以這部分我們也贊成在星期二我們大概把它談清楚到底要按照什麼樣程序來做這個人事的審查這部分是沒有問題啦所以NCC部分是不是一定要等到這個下一次再做一次協商還是今天我們可以做決定 |
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最後補充一下因為我覺得今天真的氣氛都很好大家就在這個基礎上前進那我們都非常尊重而且剛剛黃國昌總召也說我們都依議事程序來進行那NCC組織法在10月22號的時候就是黨團協商進行了那就是黃國昌總召召集的那當天的結論也就是 |
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該法案要送交韓院長協商所以這就是一個符合程序的所以勢必還是要有韓院長協商所以就依這個程序上來進行各位黨團幹部我們下星期原則上下星期二下午來進行朝野協商把剛才所有講的幾個重大議案人事案、NC之案我們併案來協商好嗎好那如果確定我們今天朝野協商大家都簽好字了嗎好那我們就 |
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再次感謝黨團幹部 |
| IVOD_ID |
16245 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16245 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2024110868 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-08T09:30:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-08T10:31:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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