| IVOD_ID |
162437 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162437 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-11T11:11:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-11T11:20:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5dae1827dbf6c9d9c973fdce9687adb4fab53e924c0ec1643b132f871dcdd8f9bbaa56767decb95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:11:29 - 11:20:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農業保險法第十條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員邱若華等21人擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。(詢答)） |
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謝謝主席我們請這個陳部長陳部長還有我們這個房間署的這個徐署長徐署長 |
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這個有一個新聞在一個禮拜之前有一個台灣的藝人他去中國然後從中國帶回來一個特產叫做活珠子他們是當南京的一個特產就是一個胚胎蛋然後帶回台灣然後農業部知道這件事情房間署知道這件事情 |
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有沒有去查?這有沒有違反我們這個動物傳染病防治條例的規定?剛剛委員說明,因為上次就是在我們的隱私節目裡面這是屬於活動物的話,它是一個產品,是需要來申請的它有申請嗎?它沒有申請可以帶進來嗎?當然不能帶進來不能帶進來,那因為這個事情是在一個禮拜之前,那請問一下你們有去查嗎? |
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這後來我們有請同仁去追查那因為這個產品它是夾帶進來我們之前沒有在當場就收到那後來去查那個產品已經沒有辦法去做可是它有影片啊那影片我們就是追查那個人就是請人就是當事人來做說明那這個會有所謂的罰則有沒有找當事人來做說明的 |
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我們的分屬的同仁有去做做做訪談有做訪談啊那有沒有確認說的確是從中國帶回來這個東西那這部分我可能要再確認一下因為這部分還在做訪談當中的記錄我沒有看到那你了解一下那等一下跟本席來報告一下就是說這個結果是怎麼樣好不好因為他已經違反了這個我們的這個動物傳染病防治條例了嘛對不對對他是因實施的檢驗物不能帶進來 |
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那現在尤其暑假又快到了其實我也很擔心啊暑假到了可能這個兩岸這邊這個往返的人會越來越多那怎麼樣去再來防範類似這一種帶回來他是我認為他是知道了然後還故意在這一個他的這一個直播節目上面還說什麼從這個中國帶回來那怎麼去防範就是說現在暑假快到了有可能是兩岸的這一個來往會比較頻繁有類似犯這種情況的 |
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跟委員說明原則上當事人知不知道這個是不能帶進來我不曉得啦那原則上就是說我們在宣導方面我們會再強化我們可能在就是在出入境的整個人流當中我們再強化有一些人不曉得因為這個東西其實在以前我們的國人同胞很少會帶這種就是所謂的珍珠彈這個進來那以前我們在東南亞所謂的壓載彈這部分是很明確 |
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所以在東亞的一些旅客他們都了解這個不能帶的但是中國這所謂的珍珠彈這之前很少人有聽過所以這個我們在加強宣導方面這算是活體的啊理論上它是有做加熱其實加熱也不行就是我們在活動檢疫物裡面如果所有加工也是要經過申請那這個也不能說因為他不知道就不發啊 |
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當然要法,我不曉得當事人知不知道,可能有些民眾也不曉得所以你們要加強宣傳,但是我是認為說這不可能不知道這個是違法的啦當然我們之前的宣傳都是做假的啊不過我想齁,這件事情的處理就是說,剛才我們防險組署長已經有提過了他們的分署會去訪談,那訪談如果是確定他是從中國帶的雖然說當下已經沒有那個實證了,但是他如果筆錄過程中這影片有啊 |
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對 影片有時候他會說他造假他隨便說說啦所以變成說他如果真正的筆錄過程裡面他確認說他也承認他是從中國帶進來的話那就會依照相關的處罰的規定去處罰 |
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那第二個部分就是我們會在機場邊境去做更加強的一個宣導我覺得我們現在很重視整個肉類製品慢慢的那個帶進來的旅客那個比例有越來越低了 |
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動直率的方法然後現在像這種有點加熱會讓人家覺得說好像是可以的那這個誤解的部分我想我們會用用圖卡的方式或其他的方式能夠讓更多人知道這個我們會來努力好 那署長去查一下看你們這個訪台結果怎麼樣那今天跟本席報告一下那我再跟這個部長請教一下 |
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這個齁 在美國 他有查到說有一種這個有毒的真菌 核古蓮苞菌蓮苞菌 蓮苞菌 他這個走私到美國去他們認為說這是一種這個潛在的農業恐怖主義的武器那我也記得說在幾年前 台灣也有類似這種案子那當然不是這種菌 就是說從中國那邊也有寄一些不明的一些種子啊土壤來到台灣 |
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我跟委員說明就是河谷連刀菌正式的學名叫連刀菌不是連包菌那這個菌其實在台灣已經有發生的紀錄包括在小麥包括在玉米還有包括在稻米都有發生這樣的一個情況然後最主要是河本科然後他的致病 |
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病原是不會比我們的道樂病的那個病原還強所以他現在目前是在檢疫的規定裡面不是因斯檢疫的項目之一那為什麼美國認為說他這個我要講的第二個重點就是說 |
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那是因為他附著在植物種子帶進來那個可能危害個別危害比較輕微可以後續可以防治處理但是你如果純粹拿這個菌種菌種帶進來的話就有可能像剛才我也有提到可能變成一個灰色攻擊 |
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就是說他可以混在任何的方式去做做特意的撒播的時候那就會變成短時間之內大面積的危害那樣的一個情況可能就會造成一些恐慌啊或是方式在台灣之前有發生過 |
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有這個病但是沒有說被人用這種濃縮的菌種去做惡意的散布啦這個是沒有啦但是我們可能也要預防啦所以後續我也要求我們房間署未來針對在X光檢驗的時候因為它包裝應該會比較特殊嘛如果看到的話要特別去加強去查處啦 |
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這是第一個部分然後回歸到田間的時候我們現在目前對這支菌的防治方法都已經都有一些現有的防治的技術跟防治的藥劑然後主要的那個品種像水稻或玉米都有一些抗病的品種那這樣的話也會降低萬一被惡意的做那個傳播的時候也會有基本的抗性 |
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所以基本上在台灣是有技術去克服說這種如果說進來的話它的蔓延對我們已經因為它本身就已經存在在台灣了對好OK那我再請教一下那那個書長請回我再請教一下這個農業金融署的這個李書長 |
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這個請教一下就是說這個央行在從去年開始那就陸陸續續有一些這個打房的一些措施那其中有央行的理事有提到說那會不會有可能這個有關土建農的貸款或是說一些民間的這些貸款跑到這個農會信用部去所以我想請問一下從去年大概年底到現在 |
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有關於這個農漁會的信用部的這一個有關土建農的貸款還有這一個你們是有所謂的這個農安貸款嗎這個比例有增加嗎 |
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是 各位報告那農安貸款的話大概最近一年他大概每個月承作的建樹跟進耳是大概相當並沒有明顯的增加沒有明顯的增加對 那另外針對信用部承作土建農的情況我們每個月都有在追蹤然後都有在督導以上 |
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我是說有沒有成長的比例啊從去年比如說九月到現在一年的時間有沒有這個成長啊相關的那個比例我是不是可以匯報再提供給委員不過我們每個月都是有在注意好 那就你的印象所及有成長嗎應該是大概差不多差不多 沒有特別的成長沒有說因為銀行那邊比較難貸款的跑來我們這個農業會信用部來貸款大概因為農安貸款是從大概兩年前開始推動第一年的時候大概成長的速度比較快那大概這一年大概是已經有趨緩的現象 |
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那你這個把這個相關的數字給我因為我去查資料至少到去年年底是有增加的啦但是你是認為說這個算是屬於還算是正常現象那你把這個相關數字提供給本席參考好不好好謝謝謝謝部長謝謝署長 |