| IVOD_ID |
162306 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162306 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-05T12:11:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-05T12:21:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f41131fcd5ae564e8759484e4a4d007bbacbcf4f939c22c9b36adcf2fc0175171a3c8e0ddb401085ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:11:43 - 12:21:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-05T10:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請審計部陳審計長瑞敏、衛生福利部就「最近疫情再起，有關衛生福利部過去所準備的快篩試劑、疫苗、各式藥品及相關醫療機構因應措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我請衛福部邱部長邱部長請委員好邱部長我今天三個問題第一個大的問題波波牙醫就是說我認為台灣價值最重要的就是我們尤其是對待我們的下一代 |
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我們要對下一代要讓他們有平等的教育權平等的受教權平等的工作權這才對嘛那波波牙醫就是幫很多家庭富裕的小孩那他們在國內考不上牙醫學系所以幫他們開了一條中南捷徑到波蘭西班牙去 |
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那麼這不但造成對我們國內的學子們不公平而且現在還嚴重的會影響到我們國內的醫療品質我簡單列這幾項 第一點波波牙醫他們的學歷審核我們在國內要經過 你要 |
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大學考試那通過那麼窄的窄門都是最優秀的才會到醫學系啊醫學系去啊這你身為台大醫學系畢業你是大學長你非常清楚這非常嚴格的一道窄門那麼進去了以後還要接受嚴格的教學跟訓練實習等等而 |
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他們波波牙伊只要對方國外的這個政府或他們的團體他們承認的就可以天啊現在我們所知道的波蘭西班牙這些地方波波牙伊來自的國家們他們都還為了我們台灣要去 |
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當波波牙醫畢業的學生他們為了我們台灣的這些學子還開了專班你看這樣的專班會是什麼樣的品質那我們國內還有這樣特定在辦這個禁 |
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國外波蘭西班牙醫學系 牙醫學系的這樣子的仲介天啊 這已經形成一道新的產業鏈其實波波牙醫他們還可以遠距教學本來是因為COVID-19遠距教學 現在他們不是他們繼續 他們說重大變故就可以繼續遠距教學我請問啊 在台灣我們可以這樣嗎 |
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然後我們新的醫師法還規定表面上說我們國內所有學生見習實習啊都可以啦混在一起其實我們國內的醫學系啊醫學系學生人家不必 |
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人家實習就是實習訓習只是在旁邊看欸實習才是動手做啊結果這個也是為波波牙醫大開方便之門然後另外最扯的是OSCE啦臨床技能測驗在這一個部分我們本土的牙醫系醫學系都必須要考只有波波不用考天啊 |
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那另外你們還開了有幾道啦你們有說有啦116年以後以後要全面實施這個Qualified的考試資格考那也就是說117年之前 |
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總共推估會有1600位1600位波波牙醫是沒有經過我們台灣國內的這個資格考天啊 這對我們國內的學子們公平嗎對我們全體國人他們的健康 |
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有保障嗎 你看國外人家美國 加拿大 英國 日本 你看他們如何嚴格我想你非常清楚嘛 邱部長你非常清楚啊 美國他們還要通過他們有特定的機關 ESMFD 證書他們除了住院醫師培訓 醫師執照考試以外還這麼嚴格喔所以在國外的評定 學習認證的這個 |
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難度美國加拿大英國都列為五星企業五星企業加拿大他們要通過MCCOE英國他們也有很多這一方面的測驗臨床實習的要求那日本更不用想我們太知道日本人他們的規模他們的要求更嚴那更直接的啦 |
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我講更直接的我們鄰國 韓國跟新加坡人家他們直接就認定波蘭 西班牙 這不行他直接名列天啊 我們台灣不是我們台灣為他們大開方便之門所以我請問你啦現在我們已經退回了這一個部分你們另外幫他開了一條路說啊 這個叫做偏鄉醫療計畫要讓波波來加入 可以漂白 |
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好啊 現在這個民意大反彈 退回你們再重修我請問 現在修了以後是不是這個臨床 欸不是臨床喔 你氣到說不下去這個偏鄉的計畫 是不是要修正 要取消 你的看法好 謝謝委員的關心第一個 我就做回應第一個 偏鄉這個計畫 絕對沒有一定要本土ECCPA |
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才能到片鄉 而且是他這個計畫理念上是要補足還是要開方便之門就對了你就是還是要開方便之門沒有沒有沒有 完全一定要台灣的牙醫學系畢業所以波波是沒有機會的好 過難得 你說的喔就是這樣做的就這樣做的喔而且都已經在行政院那個都已經處理了 好 這是取消波波 |
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因為那個偏鄉那個計畫沒有破破的任何機會都是本土醫學就是國內台灣牙醫系畢業的才有資格當然要考過醫師執照第二個就是說還是跟委員報告一下這個問題其實是長久以來的問題我們現在是怎麼樣去把它好好的解決但是至少有一個鎖住點就是每年不會超過50名 |
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我跟你講喔 50名都太多 我們照說欸 你知道嗎台大牙醫學系跟成大牙醫學系就是包括全世界各國啦對 成大 台大 加起來49名也不到你說的50名啊等於我們啊 外包了一個醫學院在 |
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在波蘭 在西班牙一樣可以這樣子做嗎我認為這個名額 我有提案當然這個提案我拖了一年成門大家不支持我認為不該要根據我們國內牙醫學系一年畢業的學生的一成 |
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我們一年畢業才入局才350位那一層35位我認為以一層為限啦因為時間有限我另外請教你兩個問題就是說在5月30號 上個禮拜那麼醫用快篩庫診食藥署盤點也有說剩15000劑但是我們全國光是基層診所就12200家啦 |
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所以請問啊 就一家只有一劑嗎然後其他的大型醫院 那怎麼辦呢那診所一家一劑 這夠嗎你的看法 |
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包委員我想一萬多所診所其實也不是每一家都是看感冒的啦當然有復健診所各種診所包括起來是一萬多家那其實有在看的的確像基層醫療協會林立南理事長有表達說要注意到醫用快篩的一個量能那這個部分不管是家用或者是醫用 |
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我們因為過去如果不用那麼多的時候你也很難要廠商去做那麼多啦我們現在一個禮拜才四萬五千只四萬五千支而已啊跟六月 保證 跟委員保證六月中的時候六月中我們家用 醫用都會超過都會超過需求 |
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主席抱歉我一分鐘問這句很重要的一件事情我們這次4100億的特別預算裡面有1670億是社會支持這裡面社會支持的這個部分有170億是剝交衛福部來針對弱勢以及獨居老人他們做照顧那我盤算了這個總金額以後我認為170億還會有剩所以我希望把這一 |
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這個部份加入就是加入我們對於殘障朋友 身障朋友他們的自立生活這個部份做幫忙為什麼 因為自立生活讓身障朋友們他們可以去就學 就業可以去參與藝文活動 甚至去參與娛樂活動這些都是需要這個部份的幫忙 |
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這可不可以把這一百七十億剩餘的部分我們來演繹成長朋友們讓他們去自立生活就醫就學好不好好 謝謝委員的資訊謝謝委員 謝謝 |