| IVOD_ID |
162293 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162293 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-05T11:31:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-05T11:41:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f41131fcd5ae5640a272b24345c7a36bbacbcf4f939c22c46063d171e8badfa187439edd53ab6c15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:31:34 - 11:41:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-05T10:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請審計部陳審計長瑞敏、衛生福利部就「最近疫情再起，有關衛生福利部過去所準備的快篩試劑、疫苗、各式藥品及相關醫療機構因應措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 我們請邱部長邱部長 |
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委員好部長好這個難得可以在我們財政委員會可以有時間留那麼久我第一屆進來的時候就到財政委會當委員所以這裡很熟悉很熟悉那請教一下部長因為今天我看到有報紙的頭版有提到是說我們食藥署昨天有發布食品良好衛生規範準則那明定的攤販不能碰完前再處理食物那同時也把外送納管在內 |
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然後呢這個當然有一些正反的意見當然對民眾來講如果那個食品安全衛生是最重要的但是對於這些小吃業者來講會覺得說這個規範似乎有點老民尤其現在很多是一個人的或是兩個人的像遇到這種情況之下我想先請問一下這個規範準則預告多久了我請王副市長是113年預告的 |
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那預告時間有沒有什麼樣的一個反應大家有不同的意見有關於這個小吃攤洗手這個部分其實在我們預告期間並沒有收到任何回應 |
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蛤 真的是大家不知道有這個預告嗎因為這個一定會有人反映嘛我就說大家不知道有這個預告是不是但怎麼會沒有人反映呢針對這一點報告委員我們剛剛有確實在回顧一下確實在這個部分上是沒有收到回應沒有收到回應所以你們這個預告是公告告你的網站就對了是我們是從中心隊員的預告中心去做預告所以所謂什麼攤商協會什麼他們知道這個預告嗎我們會同時會通知工協會 |
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通知哪裡通知相關的工協會都會通知都有通知就對了所以理論上各個類似這一種什麼攤販攤商協會的他們都知道這一個規定報告委員攤商協會是不是確實知道這個可能我們要查詢一下再跟委員回覆 |
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但是跟委員報告就是有關這個部分的GHP我們現在雖然昨天正式公告實施但是在執行面就像剛剛部長所提的一定是先輔導優先那另外跟委員補充即便是輔導期過了之後在正式實施衛生局如果查到攤商有相關違反的部分因為他是GHP的規定所以他是要優先讓他改正他只要能夠改正並不會受罰好那我先問一下輔導期有多久報委員這個應該是輔導到大家都有辦法能夠配合辦理 |
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輔導到大家都有能夠配合辦理對就是因為目前各攤商的回應是說就像剛剛委員所提的藝人的攤商可能在同時又要做這個料理食材又要收錢這方面很困難那事實上我們也會去推廣說當然這個手部保持清潔很重要 |
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那也會建議攤商是不是嘗試使用這個用食物的食夾來夾取食物這樣他的手就不會直接接觸食材或者是戴手套脫手套或者是像其實目前也有一些小的攤商他在找零的部分他是讓客人自請找零這個都有所以我們會再去找相關的工協會來討論看怎麼樣來有一個好的一個做法來讓各個攤商都能夠去能夠達成我們在這個目標 |
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我覺得你們真的要去做一個宣導啦因為這個是對於這一個攤商來講很多是一人或兩個人的那你可以跟我示範講解一下如果一個人的攤商他要怎麼去做處理咧剛剛跟委員報告就是說比如說一個是處理食材的時候比如說他準備好這一個手搖飲好了是然後咧然後他要收錢的時候他就脫掉手套然後收錢所以這是一種方式 |
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或者是像比如說我今天要油炸甜甜圈啊這些東西我在炸的時候我是可以用這個夾子去做相關的處置就是不會讓我的手跟這個食材直接接觸或者有些我們也看過有些技術蠻厲害的這些攤商的師傅他可以一手處理食材一手收錢 |
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可以這樣子嗎只要那隻手不要同時碰到食物跟錢就可以了就是手部要保持清潔衛生不要直接接觸錢所以接觸後如果大家能夠這個出發點是好的啦對於這個消費者來講他當然希望說這個我們拿到的食物是乾淨的那對於這個攤商來講我就是說因為現在就是很多是一個人兩個人的 |
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它很難啊就是說會同時這一個你說這一個接觸到食材之後呢然後比如說除了一個手套或是說間隔多久然後才能碰到食物那這樣才是符合規定的 |
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包委員就是不要摸了錢以後再摸起來不要連續性的動作嗎他中間如果有經過一個清潔的程序洗過手以後那這個程序怎麼走我們會再找這些相關協會或者直接找我們攤商的夥伴一起來我覺得要加強宣導啦真的要加強宣導那就像是副署長嘛就是說宣導期有多久 |
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報告委員我們目前沒有去強調這個宣導期就是目標當然就是希望所有的業者都能配合一起共同維護食安好那就是我請教一下部長我們的宣導期就是到大家都能夠來適應這樣的作法因為你們這個也不是說而且這是一個應該是一個比較保持食安的一個方向 |
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有一個方向在那邊,大家一起來努力,就會讓國家,也許在食安方面可以更進步這其實方向我支持,但我也希望說福島到大家都可以來試驗來做對啊,因為你說這個預告人時間超過一年,結果沒有任何的反應,我是覺得說那一定是大家不知道這件事情你看今天如果報紙寫出來之後,大家一定知道這件事情,一定會有不同的反應出來啦 |
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至少我們自己有覺得說那這樣子這個政策方向是好的但是這個手段可能在這個過程當中會有點擾民啊 |
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我們會輔導 往這個方向那所以也不是說這個抓到 就是輔導期輔導期就是說你抓到之後也不會馬上發言就對了跟他建議跟他宣導教育這樣子的 先做這樣子那你們有沒有一些相關的一些文宣物資出來啊好 我們會來研議 跟相關的工協會來研議那現在還沒有吧一起努力現在還沒有 |
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那多久的時間可以報告委員 這個我們會有回覆因為我不是負責食品的這個部分所以我會確認以後跟委員報告好 那問一下這個部長現在COVID-19疫情有上升的這個情況那我請問一下這個變化連假的這幾天這個疫情還有在上升嗎 |
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有關重症的部分目前因為它屬於落後指標所以目前還在上升至於急診的部分目前上升的幅度有比較緩一點還是在上升但是我們會密切監視那你們預期的高峰期是到哪時候原來預期大概是在6月底、7月初 |
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疫苗接種率太低了? |
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對就是說有關新冠疫苗因為它是一個在疫情期間大家很多人接種很多劑那也有很多人感染過所以導致一些民眾甚至醫師他們都不認為說還需要再打啦但事實上就是說這個疫苗事實上對於一些比較屬於65歲以上或是高危險族群還是需要的這個部分那一般的民眾如果你有接種的話也是會對於預防重症還是有重要性 |
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那現在這一個有關於這一個疫苗還是免費的嗎目前還是公費沒有問題還是公費沒有問題供應商還是沒有問題就對了好那我再請教一下現在之前有人在說這個快篩試劑不夠的問題有這個問題嗎 |
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快餐四季如果是家用的話的確我們疫情起來我們會要求我們就要求廠商趕快來做然後一直跟通路包括連鎖藥局四大超商通路一直在鋪貨那到六月剛開始的確會可能沒有辦法百分之百買得到那目前我相信是大概一半那到六月中我們 |
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產貨會比那個疾管署一級的量需求量的兩倍以上所以那個時候在我想每一天都在努力鋪路所以是六月中六月中量一定超過需求的兩倍所以那個是應該大家都在就近就可以來找那我想請問一下現在使用快篩的這一個時間點因為一定是跟高峰期的那時候不一樣嘛所以大概什麼樣的時間點上會需要一般人也需要使用到快篩 |
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因為我們以前使用快勝有可能是說因為我醫療我用醫療來講我也帶過醫師公會前面會開過一百次的全國防疫會議所以大概知道現在的專家也有提議說真的是比較可能會重症的才塞 |
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582.886 |
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那我覺得這個各種專家都有他不同的意見那我認為民眾如果覺得不要去囤貨但是如果覺得需要篩還是可以篩這樣子以前篩是有比如說他可以請假啦或是說怎麼樣的現在沒有了嘛就是說一般人現在因為有一個好處啦因為篩了以後他把 |
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583.788 |
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590.487 |
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這個數據弄好也許給醫師去看醫師可以做一個更快的判斷也有幫助啦OK 謝謝李委員 |