| IVOD_ID |
162284 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162284 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-05T11:03:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-05T11:12:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f41131fcd5ae564160f66e01cd374f6bbacbcf4f939c22c46063d171e8badfa11aaf748057b52845ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:03:09 - 11:12:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-05T10:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請審計部陳審計長瑞敏、衛生福利部就「最近疫情再起，有關衛生福利部過去所準備的快篩試劑、疫苗、各式藥品及相關醫療機構因應措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席請衛福部邱部長還有我們審計部邱部長陳審計長陳審計長還有我們這個主計處主計處那個陳淑芝 |
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陳副主席長副主席長是嗎OK好好OK謝謝那個邱部長好是我想部長疫情再起政府號稱防疫戰備充足啦我想剛才很多委員大家都對不管是快篩試劑啦或者是疫苗你剛才講說疫苗是充足的啦藥品那個沉默中足那個診所協會的理事長講說這個 |
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防疫抗病毒的藥物也是不足結果我們看到的似乎是口號超前但是部署落後所以部長你剛才講說我們會超前部署但是我們看到現在的情況感覺整個防疫的能量是不夠充裕的 |
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那賴總統講說防疫能量充裕國人無需驚慌當然這個是安慰國人啦但是我們實際看到的情況在我們這個三個禮拜部長你自己也講你還出來道歉你說又針對這個快篩撲破延遲基層缺藥缺快篩你也道歉了啦所以我在這邊我要想請問的就是說疾管署你們到底是什麼時候有掌握到疫情升溫的徵兆 |
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上次我在媒體接受訪問的時候我只是說明說因為快篩因為你又要工廠做又要鋪貨你平常沒有用的時候要工廠做 |
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存貨下來也是很麻煩所以這個過程當中其實我們不管食藥署 機關署是非常努力啦我只是說站在同理心的立場說等幾天 馬上會報所以六月中以後我們所以你有道歉嗎我沒有說道歉啦 |
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那是媒體看的啊你關心國人的健康你這樣是對的我是很關心國人只要一點點延遲一分一秒我們就覺得需要努力了你這樣的回答是沒有問題我們在緊肯定啦你有在積極的希望趕快的把它補起來我補充一下我們的藥物跟疫苗是絕對沒有問題 |
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那快篩現在在六月底 六月中以後會散量到預期就會量的兩倍就會足夠嘛應該都 不能用快篩一定夠現在重要是讓醫院診所看怎麼樣能夠發揮最大的功能因為會有這種疑慮就是快篩會大家一直會認為說這個快篩的不足不夠因為大家都買不到 |
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大家都在基層買不到啊所以你預估是在六月中旬就一定有啊大家不會再空跑藥局了是跟委員報告其實快篩我們從 |
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5月20號統計到昨天為止家用快餐的部分已經工廠都製造超過91萬劑那也撲貨出去到82萬劑那目前14個通路包含連鎖藥局超商藥妝店等他們目前都是全力在撲貨那會有一些順序差別是因為 |
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這些製劑商基本上每天生產完這物流就會帶走但是訂單下的時間不一樣所以這一波事實上是連鎖藥局的訂單下的比較早不是啦我的重點是說你大概六月大概什麼時候就缺因為到六月中旬 人們去買就不會買不到是跟委員報告到六月中旬家用快篩的總共生產量會超過210萬劑那這個已經超過在疾管署預估家用快篩需要的你知道生產量這麼多你整個鋪貨的流程你這個SOP都有建議嗎 |
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所以目前鋪貨大概只會差十萬劑的量左右就是生產的多然後鋪貨大概會晚一天就差十萬劑這樣所以也會有大概兩百萬劑鋪到各市場上那我們今天其實昨天有我們再去抽測目前國內大概這些連鎖藥局跟超商 |
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超過一半以上其實都有存貨那民眾會去有的時候買不到是因為他可能進了貨那之前的民眾他已經買走了所以他再去的時候他就必須等下一波的進貨所以你預估大概在我還是回到了六月中旬應該就沒有問題了應該全部都會到貨接下來請那個我們主席沈記長沈記長請 |
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市長,對於這一波的整個疫情升溫,好像有廠商趁機來搭便車,造成政策操作的空間與利益的輸送,你有調查到嗎?有沒有這種情況發生?這一波我們還沒有進行調查。 |
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還沒有調查 還沒有啟動飢餓機制對 因為這一波是最近起來嘛 是那我們的損失有很多事要做所以我們剛剛查完那個特別結算的一些規定所以這一波 因為大家剛剛查完回來還沒有開始啟動嘛 但是我還是要建議你喔 |
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我們希望說整個這個防疫的整個這個程序我們不要有人趁機去撈一筆這發生國難財所以請陳議長就是對針對快篩藥物採購的程序啟動專案的集合這個集合機制還是要趕快啟動啦好 趙委員我們先異訪再請那個我們 |
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主計處我也好我想這一次的地方就是剛才部長也講說我們中央這一次整個防疫的預算是足夠的中央是足夠的但是地方我們現在看到因為這一次行政院統三以列為法律支出的地方性的地方的一般性補助款地方首長昨天也集體到行政院來訴願 |
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所以我想了解說中央這個主席處這一次你統三地方的一般性補助款地方很多都反映說這個防疫的預算地方的防疫的預算會受到影響會受到影響所以主席總處你這一次統三地方的一般性補助款你們是否有事前去了解到說你這個是否會影響地方的一個防疫的一個預算 |
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我們有做過評估嗎我們中央防疫預算也是先以緩計及那地方基本上往年的模式也是都有障礙防救法以緩計及那這一次所謂刪減一般性補助款概念上對應地方是他的稅路所以對地方來講是影響他的資金調度那這個部分資金調度的部分我們會來協助 |
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所以你認為這個不會衝擊到地方的防疫的一個防疫的資源都不會 都不會這是你的說法 因為地方確實有挨挨叫喔你講說尤其衛生局整個一個地方衛生局整個一個防疫的一個預算因為這一次的一般性補助官被刪除而影響到他們這個防疫預算的一個準備啦的籌措啦 |
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這些資金有受影響喔所以你事前完全沒有去跟這些地方政府來做一個溝通一般性補助款的部分我們有先行在3月發函先用控留的方式發函我知道 但是我是說你們在評估的時候根本就沒有評估到說是不是未來可能疫情會起來啊疫情起來你這個地方的這個防疫預算會不會受影響所以你無差別的去這個統三整個一般性補助啊 |
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已經影響到整個包含防疫預算有評估地方政府有資金調度的能力 |
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我想最後還是要問主席總書因為我想昨天整個六都或者其他縣市我們很多的首長已經到行政院提訴員昨天主席長也講了目前針對114年度的一般性補助款的3.636億會提出辦法解決 |
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主計總署後續將聽取各方意見來研議相關的方案請問這相關的方案是什麼 |
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你要連相關方案已經演繹出來沒有現在很緊急不要再拖了目前有提到的是追加預算所以你的方案就是追加預算所以我最後一個問題就是你現在你要用追加預算方式但是你追加預算的方式是你一個相關的方案你是不是在這個追加預算這個方案演繹的過程中你應該盡速的補足我們地方的一般性補助款你不應該去停止執行 |
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我想這個請主席總書你真的要去好好地思考一下因為類似苗栗這種資金調度困難了我們會來協助不是現在不是那種資金你現在你既然要研議相關方案嘛就趕快補足嘛 好不好好 謝謝另外一個資訊 |