IVOD_ID |
162273 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162273 |
日期 |
2025-06-05 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-14 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
14 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-06-05T10:28:40+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-06-05T10:37:42+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:02 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f41131fcd5ae5643b20a951ee2e368dcd8722aad0b92e7fe7f061fc5ac7c7dcad8eac70585468305ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
委員發言時間 |
10:28:40 - 10:37:42 |
會議時間 |
2025-06-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第14次全體委員會議(事由:審查一、委員徐欣瑩等18人、二、委員陳俊宇等20人分別擬具「技師法第十一條條文修正草案」及三、委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等19人擬具「技師法第十一條及第四十二條條文修正草案」案。
【本日會議僅進行詢答】) |
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謝謝主席 請工程會陳主委請主委 |
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主委今天針對祭司法有幾個版本在進行相關的修法但這個本席對這個版本的內容我是沒有太大的意見要請教但是我對這個祭司法這個法令我就很有興趣來請教就教一下主委 |
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這個我們祭司法裡面規範的科別祭司的科別總共有32科主委這個你應該很清楚那我把它做了一個統計這個有一些科別我隨便舉個例子因為我的選區是海濱亞我們有一個漁撈業的祭司這個85旁邊農役121 |
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主委這個85跟121是有這個科別以來到今天的數字還是一年的數字有這個法 請我們後面來幫忙回答那是全部的數字好 所以副主委那你當副主委時間也不是很長所以你會不會覺得很奇怪 我們祭司法 |
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這個法規存在 然後要來考這32項類別裡面 有一些類別從有這個法 有這個祭司執照的法 有這個祭司法開始到今天只有85張 就發了85張的祭司嘛 對不對有些發100多張 紡織工程65張 |
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這個冶金工程35這個更低那礦業安全32請問一下這個像這些數量極低從開始到現在都連100張都達不到的他是 |
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這個行業根本不需要這個專業執照還是說根本很難考所以沒有人考得上他到底有沒有檢討過這個原因是什麼這個整個企業環境在改變啦然後所有的企業的內容都改變比方說以前魚撈 |
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那可能有些輪機長啊或者是大副啊他是需要考這個執照的那是不是已經減少需求了,比方說冶金 |
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那冶金過去是有有冶金科的大概有成大跟過去的台北工專可是現在都轉型成材料因為材料都已經進入這個高科技啊到台積電去啦所以冶金會比較少都到材料科學去了所以這整個需求有改變啦是是是所以主委我其實你這個你點出了本席其實疑問的地方啦就是說第一個會不會是我們當時在立這個法的時候啊 |
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的確有這樣的一個要求跟需求那後來產業形態的改變這個產業沒落所以這種需求就減少第二種會不會是這種需求市場上所需要的人他根本不需要技師執照 |
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第三種我們政府相關在這方面的人才的規定譬如說土木技師你就有規定這個行業哪一種行業他要做什麼必須要簽證要有土木技師合格的簽證他才可以所以有一些行業根本沒有任何的需要簽證所以他幹嘛去考 |
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那我的意思是說所以不管他哪一個原因或理由主委你有沒有覺得有沒有必要把這一部祭司法重新好好的來調整而不是只有我們在講這個罹患精神疾病身心障礙啦等等這些地方要不要審查啊等等會不會應該要回歸到這一部祭司法裡面隨著時代的演進到今天為止立了這個法結果有一些項目32個項目裡面根本 |
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我是常 這是總共嘛或許有可能有一些科別可能已經五年了可能Maybe多少年一個人來報考都沒有所以主委你覺得這應不應該好好的來把這一部技師法這種核心問題好好的來檢討一下那這個謝謝委員的這個意見我們再跟考試院來協商有些考試科目是否 |
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的確如果長年沒有人報考那麼還是不是有必要檢討或者社會根本沒有這種需求這必須要跟考試院來一下就是各個行業也了解一下然後考試院詢問一下然後實際在產業運作的需求面再清楚的認知一下我們就可以好好的把這個祭司法這個法令核心的問題我們好好來做一個檢討這第一個 |
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第二個針對這些科別裡面這個大地工程技師這個歷年報考跟錄取人數我們把它做一個統計我們就可以發現從110年開始我們改了一個考試方法叫做兩階段考試就是考兩次的意思那你看可以從過去大概都250人以上甚至高達390人 |
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的報考人數一下驟減成15跟22那 |
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這個倒考人數更低只有11跟12那入取人數當然相對比例上沒有低因為他等於有一半考上了有一半考上不會比你一階段考的時候不會比那個雙軌制考的時候來的入取率來的比例來的低好那112年開始我覺得可能我們發現這個一下子人數不合理不正常的驟減所以我們又恢復這個雙軌制 |
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那主委你對於這個這個驟減啊導致可能業界人才的需求不足或者是工會好像也有提出一些看法嘛那主委你覺得這個大地工程技師到底這個出了什麼問題 |
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很有的人程度比較好他認為分兩階段考試太麻煩了但是也有說如果分兩階段考試那麼有的人可以充分的準備嘛這個也是很好的一個概念那到明年開始到底要恢復兩階段還是雙軌 |
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我們正在跟考試院在商議當中這個必須由這個商議妥適之後他們再來決定到底是兩階段或者是維持一階段或者是雙軌同步那我們也會跟工會來討論OK這個市場 |
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大力工程技師市場有需求大家才會關心如果他跟其他業別一樣根本沒有人在考那這個其實就不需要在這裡討論他討論方向應該是這個要不要要存費但看起來他大家很關心所以他數字不合理不明顯數字不合理非常明顯的驟降 |
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從那個比例縮減可能是九成啦所以那個比例是非常不合理的驟降所以這裡面一定有一些 |
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問題存在那站在立法院監督的立場我們一定希望執照不可以亂發嘛這個祭司一定要學有專精要合格要怎麼樣啊但是呢市場也有他的需求面嘛就市場他你連續好幾年都大地工程祭司都沒人扣得掉或者錄取的比例很低的情況底下那可能在引起市場供需的問題上面也會出問題 |
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所以呢這個我覺得這個數字啊它不合理它會驟降八九成以上的原因它背後一定有一個原因啦所以我還是會希望工程會跟考試院 |
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會後針對這個問題 恐怕要好好研究因為數字 如果說你說就減個10% 20%甚至30% 我們都還可以理解但是一下子這個報名人數這個少了大概九成有這個其實我覺得就不合理啦所以主委 這應該可以來了解一下利齊跟考試院來商量好 OK 謝謝 |