| IVOD_ID |
162265 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162265 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-05T10:25:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-05T10:33:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f41131fcd5ae564583f376c294dc9e7bbacbcf4f939c22ce7f061fc5ac7c7dc6f56bf4e46f5f0685ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳秉叡 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:25:19 - 10:33:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-05T10:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請審計部陳審計長瑞敏、衛生福利部就「最近疫情再起，有關衛生福利部過去所準備的快篩試劑、疫苗、各式藥品及相關醫療機構因應措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席麻煩請衛福部邱部長來邱部長請委員好部長早今天講的這個是整備那我要問你相關的問題今年度的這個114年度的預算貴部被山被凍的狀況是怎麼樣 |
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如果以機關署的預算 防疫這個部分沒有一定要以機關署為限 我是問你衛福部衛福部3減11億 凍結26億3減11億是3減在哪裡 主要3減在哪裡就是在業務費業務費 業務費裡面的宣傳預算 是 有是不是被刪了60% 是 3減多少錢 |
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四千多萬那你這個費用本來是要跟國人溝通當有重大疫情的時候或是有什麼重大突發事件的時候你需要這筆經費然後趕快把你的這個業務上面希望國人配合去做一個宣傳嘛是的那這個被刪掉之後你要怎麼用呢 |
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這個業務是不是就被影響了當然是會影響所以我們為了還是要守護全民健康那怎麼辦呢 你沒有錢可以用啊你少了這個宣傳的部分你又不能留用你也不能從其他預算科目來你的宣傳費用少了60%少了幾千萬所以你衛福部要跟國人做這些意見溝通的時候你要如何處理 |
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這個都會再再影響到我們每一個國人的權益是不是那你是不是就是你跟社會的溝通就少60%啊 |
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以後本來應該要宣傳比如說現在哪一個疾病哪一個流行性疾病應該要怎麼樣處置這方面的information沒有辦法透過這些各種媒體讓國人能了解難道國人自己每天要去FB排隊問嗎那你到底要如何處理呢 |
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我想河山這方面的預算的確會影響到我們在做一些可能需要不管是防疫或是健康訊息的傳遞但是我想我們會努力努力來你這個是要跟藍白立委溝通的希望明年不要這樣亂砍 |
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原因在哪裡他們都誤會說你這個宣傳預算是拿來做政治攻防的啦他們都是做這樣的設想所以一刀就被砍掉60%他不知道部會需要跟國人溝通的事情很多我們衛福部都是以健康跟守護民眾的一個安全這個我相信問題是不相信的人就會拿來亂砍利用多數就隨便亂砍所以今天在這邊談說整備 |
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各式各樣的東西的整備一方面給你大砍預算一方面光這方面跟國人溝通就有很大的影響第二個你的業務費被凍結了多少錢業務費整個衛福部嘛是啊凍結是26億凍結26億那總共業務費本來總共是多少 |
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凍結了30%是不是?月月凍結了30%是不是現在有在提出解凍?報告委員,我們未完的委員會已經在上禮拜前述解凍解凍,那原來叫凍這個是什麼意思?預算的審查一月通過,然後現在凍這麼多讓你的業務費這樣為難你,讓你難用 |
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不行 不能夠又要馬而跑 又要馬而不吃草好 那現在再來機關署 機關署你的經費這跟今天的最直接相關的 你的經費被刪減了多少今天3.1億5千萬主要刪減在哪裡主要還是就是國內外的旅費 教育訓練 水電費還有媒體宣導跟設備費 |
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這除了是在業務範圍嗎?對對對,業務範圍那這個對你有什麼影響呢?應該是說,我目前大概盡量用我們署內的預算來挪用來部分,但是...不是不能喔,被刪減的不能留用喔有一些像國內旅費沒有辦法留用,這個部分就會比較麻煩就是說如果一旦未來,比如說南部有登革熱,那我們去...就沒辦法跨區支援啦,這個會比較傷腦筋一點 |
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那到底如果真的發生了 你要如何處理呢這個難道要我們所屬同仁自己掏腰包自己出這個旅運費用 自己去處理嗎當然我相信如果他對這個業務有非常崇高的理想跟奉獻精神的人或許叫他自己要出一點這個交通費用 叫他自己去他都還有可能可是這不是一個國家的制度啊 |
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對 因為我們通常去支援這個登革的防疫通常要待一個禮拜啦如果從外面調去還有住宿費這個餐飲費這個部分都需要一些解決那你這件事情如何處理這都已經 刪減這項業務會影響到你很大的你的業務的這個推動啊對 所以這個部分我們當然就是盡量南部不要有登革疫情這樣發生啦這不是你 這我也希望大家都希望 但是問題是 |
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這個光靠希望 那乾脆就去拜拜好了這有可能是這樣嗎所以你不能夠寄望於說希望它不要發生那這個到底你要如何解決呢沒有辦法解決 現在看起來是沒有能力我們可能就是再看一下我們的傳染病防治法跟災害防救法這邊看有沒有什麼空間可以在這個預算下去爭取 |
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那至於今天談到的這些什麼快篩啊 疫苗啊 藥物啊還有跟醫師之間的這些的費用在疾管署這邊有沒有被動到的這部分倒是 主要是那個疫苗的費用一開始有動了一千萬 不過也解動了其他的部分倒還好 倒沒有 |
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410.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
417.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
這個鑰匙工會的全國性的理事長所談到的說他有一些抱怨這間部長你知道這個訊息吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
421.116 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
443.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
哪一方 不曉得哪一方 防疫方面嗎剛剛不是前一個委員才剛問你他說黃金順怎麼樣怎麼樣我想任何一個團體他就好像藝界團體 藥界團體能夠超前部署來提醒我覺得我們都但是大家話說在前面你要你準備 要你準備我贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
444.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
462.117 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
站在我中央政府這個立法我立法院我個人委員的角度我也贊成可是叫你準備如果過剩之後將來會再回過頭來說你為什麼準備這麼多呢以前他們都是用這樣的雙重手法一開始疫苗不夠趕快進疫苗 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
463.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
490.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
再來疫苗 大家施打的意願不高就怪你說怎麼浪費那麼多你記不記得你以前在我們本院當委員的時候我們同事過嘛 這個是 印象應該是很深刻啊所以我的意思是說你提早準備 我很贊成但是你要謹防這些人會浪費這麼多你知道嗎他換了一個時空環境會回過頭來指責說 為什麼你浪費這麼多因為你提早準備 |
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492.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
507.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
你當然就是要有一個安全的量那安全的量萬一將來使用不夠有剩餘的時候他會回過頭來指責你喔是這一點大家話先說在前面你要有以待之齁我們很小心加油好 謝謝全力支持你 希望加油謝謝好 謝謝 |