| IVOD_ID |
162238 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162238 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-04T12:44:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-04T12:51:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dfdeed74d30b9828a601d30f017dd3b169516374867620cee4d45e0249ca5227aa60440c46ce58cc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:44:21 - 12:51:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長就「勞工退休金制度改革，含勞保、勞退執行現況」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 本席請洪部長學恩好部長好 本席也要感謝楊耀委員前面在剛好本席來了以後他所質詢的也是本席想要救教部長的因為我們都面對廣大的勞工朋友那我想勞工朋友他們這個每天打拚他們也希望他們的打拚最後不會落空 |
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所以我們有關這個勞保年金最終責任入法這件事養老委員有提版本本席也有提版本那我們希望把這個撥補能夠法制化那政府可以負這個最後支付的責任這個可以入法 |
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那因為去年這個卓院長剛上任的時候本席在總諮詢的時候卓院長就有承諾要將政府最後支付責任入法列為最優先考慮的事項那您剛剛也公開的表達說您對這個政府最後支付責任入法是持開放的態度那本席要請教你你跟卓院長針對這個 |
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這麼一千多萬的勞工關心的事情那卓院長也公開承諾過您也持開放態度你們有討論過嗎還有你們目前的共識是如何 |
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我想現在不管是行政院或勞動部我們對這個議題是持開放態度我們認為是可以可以做一些研議討論的開放跟研議那就是沒有結果所以你們那剛剛楊耀委員他還很客氣提說你們沒有這個提版本那本席還希望我們勞動部也可以提版本 |
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行政院可以有版本啊所以你們你們提開放態度沒有作為那其實就就在欺騙民眾所以或者是你們沒有版本沒關係那你們有沒有一個期程或你們目前的這個 |
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想法跟委員報告其實在應該是五月中的一次委員會的時候其實我想委員會裡面有做成一個組決議這組決議是請我們針對這個最終責任入法的這個可行性那三個月內進行評估對那我們也在啟動這個評估所以三個月後我們應該可以得到一個好消息因為開放嘛然後這個卓院長又列為最優先事項 |
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可以得到一個可行性評估可以努力吧我們一定要替勞工來爭取啦好那再來就是有關這個最低工資的部分我想您身為勞動部長您一定也知道我們很多的勞工朋友都希望這個我們的最低工資呢那能夠實際的反映實際生活的成本 |
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那所以我們大家一直認為說這個修正的決策的公式是不是可以更符合實際的現況針對這個部分 部長你們這邊有沒有什麼作為 |
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就是有關 因為你們就是大概幅度是4%左右這些相關的公式目前其實都是按照最低工資法的修訂的程序來進行所以其實這個月的應該月底其實也會 |
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來針對這例工資召開諮詢會來瞭解勞資是諮詢會還是審議會諮詢會那有關諮詢會或審議會外界也認為說不夠公開透明有沒有可能這個諮詢會或審議會他可以向立法院這個開會可以直播或錄影 |
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有可能嗎那個跟文說明其實先因為這個諮詢會也是勞資包括學界專業界一起加入一起通一起加入的勞資雙方還有學界嗎那我想我們的會計其實也都有都有上網公開但是 |
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這個過程決策過程可以開放公開嗎我想這裡面沒有什麼太多的秘密所以其實是可以的可以考慮公開我們其實把會議紀錄的部分我們都有公開上網的那再來就是說一般勞工認為勞方的代表比例是否足夠有可能再增加嗎 |
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呃勞方的比例或各方的比例其實這都應該是規範在就在法律公司法裡面你們都按照那個法定好那所以現在大家希望說整個運作的過程決策的過程外界可以呃公開透明可以知道 |
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在這個會議裡面他的會議記錄或者是應該發言的紀要其實也都有公開的他是重點紀錄還是發言的完整的發言紀錄紀要是紀要是重點嘛對那如果是這樣的話不能公開嗎公開啦上網公開啦我是說開會的過程 |
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我想我們沒有要在這裡面做任何的隱藏但是它既有公開的程序包括剛剛說結論的部分或發言的紀要其實我們都公開我想這裡面是用很開大門走大陸的方式我本期也是反映一些勞方的心聲大家覺得也想了解在這個開會的過程到底是怎麼樣的一個審議過程我想很多人也想知道所以你們是覺得紀錄就好也不需要公開 |
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不是不需要公開我們其實已經針對這些發言的紀要各方發言家我們把它公開上網了我們已經這部分是有公開的你的發言紀要會議紀錄公開了那現在我的問題是那這個有沒有可能會議過程可以公開嗎有困難嗎應該不難以現在的科技就很簡單有個鏡頭有個網路這可能不是不一定是技術上面的問題但是我們可能要再研議包括這裡面其實有會有很多不同的不同方面的委員這樣子所以 |
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所以你的意思是委員他們不希望公開我不是這樣說可是我說關於公開或公開到什麼程度的議題我想還是要表達我們現在已經公開到會議紀錄跟發言紀要這裡面並不是黑箱沒關係你們也許可以在之後的會議也可以徵詢一下如果委員們沒意見覺得可以的話我們還是希望朝向這方面我想我們可以討論一下對討論一下好謝謝 |