| IVOD_ID |
162220 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162220 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-04T11:34:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-04T11:43:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dfdeed74d30b982819dc21e146d5010fb8fa27110b4cf3b3ec695a437ff13aed1356525e4f663e885ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:34:58 - 11:43:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請司法院副秘書長、法務部部長、法務部矯正署署長、衛生福利部、內政部警政署率所屬相關單位列席就「法官如何判死（死刑量刑準則）─包括被害影響陳述（訴訟參與人意見陳述）、教化可能性、復歸社會可能性、量刑前社會調查／鑑定，及現行司法實務如何將刑法第57條第7款至第10款、第59條納入量刑鑑定因子」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、併案審查
（一）委員賴士葆等20人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員王育敏等18人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員陳亭妃等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員張智倫等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百七十一條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（六）國民黨黨團擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員邱鎮軍等19人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員王育敏等23人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百七十一條條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員葉元之等18人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員王鴻薇等21人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
（十一）委員柯志恩等16人擬具「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案」案。
【第二案（九）至（十一）如經院會復議，則不予審查】
【6月2日、4日及5日三天一次會】） |
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剛剛發言的吳思堯又再吳兆堯了 |
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他竟然說苗博雅當證人來北院開庭的時候有民眾黨的民眾攻擊他嗎?有嗎?有嗎?民眾黨群眾跟支持者小草都在對接啊他根本碰不到證人啊有這個事嗎?有嗎?不是有在造謠嗎?有嗎?你對民眾黨這麼嚴重的指控 |
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實在症狀澄清 第二個他那天去幫柯文哲講了不少話啊包括看電光底的時候他直接講啊 那個呈現的他說柯文哲 柯市長不是一個會亂搞的人啊我們很多民眾的人不只沒有攻擊他 還讚美他啊幫柯文哲有講公道話啊 幫柯文哲清白啊吳思瑤不要再造謠了吳思瑤剛才還造謠 |
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他說啊 全世界法庭直播只有中國 是這樣嗎美國沒有嗎 美國沒有的話怎麼會有強奴哈 曾經逮捕的那個世紀大直播呢英國也有啊 加拿大也有啊上次我都已經打臉他了他說要直播要發掉600多億600多倍的這個謊言吧我們立法院的直播 每看 大家每天都在看每天都在看 |
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我們大概一年就是一億嘛上次我已經拆穿到謊言今天還來說什麼 還在造謠只有中國大陸有那強尼代普那個大司機的直播是怎麼回事美國有啊 英國有啊更重要的 更重要的我們為了這個事情做過兩次的大型民調大型的民調喔都是超過七成以上都贊成的 |
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而且你的以前蔡英文的司法國事會議已經通過了你今天是怎麼樣吳司也來打臉蔡英文是不是這不是表決的問題我們也可以充分的討論可是請不要一直造謠好我今天要來談凱凱案讓人家痛心的凱凱案這個事情讓他悲痛的是一個才一歲半的小孩受到那麼樣的凌內 |
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結果呢 現在社會除了悲傷之外 有去補破網嗎我去看了所有的資料我們的 內同的這個事件 越來越多然後這個刑度每次一判都越來越低這樣司法會讓民眾可以信任嗎 |
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所以我們要回應民意不只是很多民眾上街去抗議了高達14萬人連署喔要求要增加內而致死要增加死刑今天台灣民眾黨也提出了修正動議我們要求增列以後如果內而致死要增加死刑剛剛部長是說法務部最後提案子也是往這方向走的勒 |
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這部分那個零列的話那個應該重點不是在如果以零列的一個方式來達到殺人的一個目的那這部分我們認為是在立法的選擇可以再做增定的加重的一個處罰我們可以另外在因為零列的部分有些是在傷害有些單純的沒有造成傷害 |
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那有些是他要以他當殺人的一個結果那我想這個整個一個致死的這部分我們都可以來研修來考量考量意見上禮拜的這個公聽會還有今天整個部長的回答看起來是網絡上放這樣在說我們希望早一點落實我們不允許不允許這個孽兒這個事件孽兒這個事件越來越多然後刑度竟然是越來越低的我們一定要盡力去矯正另外我來幫吳宗憲吳主席問這個 |
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問一下 中憲在上個禮拜五二七的時候司法法治委員會當庭告發公務員涉犯刑務法第129條 溢流克扣罪中憲那天直接跟法務部當場就告發了嘛 對不對這很嚴重是因為 |
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行政院違法亂紀違反三大法財政收支劃分法已經訂了說不能夠今年度的補助款不能比去年低結果你砍了636億當然就比去年低啊違法啊第二個我們在立法院審的時候也清清楚楚講只有對中央跟首屬機關根本就不能碰到這個地方的事情結果他竟然已經砍了第三個違法去年8月就已經要各個縣市政府編預算了 |
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編完之後各個議會都通過了三大違法違法亂紀更嚴重的出犯了刑法129條一流客戶罪那中線上禮拜已經當場告發了嘛現在辦了嗎這個已經函請那個台高檢署來處理了處理中了對不對 |
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OK 這事情要快辦因為這個影響到他那個砍掉的預算是跟各個地方政府跟人民的社會不利牽扯到很多老人家跟那個長輩跟那個小孩子的還有教育費用跟基礎建設那影響太大了這事情要快點辦另外我再問你一個不要雙標問題李俊麗啊經參秘書長請辭之後啊那法務部現在辦了嗎 |
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這部分有告發了 跟北檢告發那這部分台北地檢署有在偵辦中今天的新聞說你們在偵辦你們現在是在調那個什麼李承樹啊我問你一下 保定我問你一下你們最近這個大搜索大搜押他這個背信罪跟現在李建立碰到這個事情他這個應該是背信跟侵殺嘛 對不對 |
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這個可能有涉及到這部分的一個情形那當然以以前的公測資用可能有偽造文書、侵占詐欺、北檢等等那這部分到底有沒有那這部分北檢在偵辦中司法這個天平不能夠傾斜 不能雙標我剛剛就是問一個最簡單的問題一般民眾一定問你 |
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你在大搜索跟大搜押的偽造文書跟相對這一邊的你建立這一邊的侵占跟背信哪個最比較重法定是一樣最高是一樣行者這邊一定比較重結果比較輕的這邊已經大搜索大搜押那麼多人了這邊現在看起來輕輕的到現在還在辦什麼在查那個里程數 |
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這個檢查就是依他的偵查計畫這部分我沒辦法去干涉指導你不用干涉啦就是說不要讓民眾很清楚感受到你是雙標的不要雙標 把他碰到民進黨的時候轉彎一個是雙標嘛 不要碰到民進黨的時候轉彎這樣嘛這標準就是要一致 我跟你講你的天平傾斜 民眾就會看得到嘛OK 那不是 OK 好 |
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好啦 最近那個 老師講 司法 我們一定要強調司法是人民一個很重要正義的防線啊 雖然民調這麼低 所以我已經苦苦 譬如說我已經提過好幾次了所以我們也是希望給司法一個純正的辦案空間嘛那那個包括什麼偵查審判都是一樣對 保證辦案空間一定是會的 全民都會支持 立法院一定會支持不過不會讓人民覺得你是雙標 碰到民進黨就轉彎民調已經那麼清楚跟你講 那麼多民眾已經上街頭了 |
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我們都有歷史定位啦我覺得你現在是一個大家長我覺得你要留下好的歷史定位 |